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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment

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Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is

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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Well, we are thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: in our third seat by one of the faces on

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Speaker 1: Mountain Zeitmore. He is the hilarious, the talent to Mr

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Speaker 1: Billy Wayne David Bear Bear, he's shooting guns in the air.

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Speaker 1: Should not be good for your house. How's it going, man,

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Speaker 1: there's already there's already holes. Uh, what's good man? How

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Speaker 1: are you? Everything's all I mean, it's not all right,

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Speaker 1: but it is, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, everything.

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Speaker 1: What's a small victory you had recently? I'm in good shape.

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Speaker 1: Look at you. You also got a mustache going a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah yeah, I don't know if that's a

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Speaker 1: victory's winning. I'm definitely seeing like what baseball playing Billy

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Speaker 1: Wayne Davis looks like when you have that mustache. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't grow ship when I was playing ball, so

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Speaker 1: it was it was mostly I would just like grow

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Speaker 1: my hair out when I could, and then I would

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Speaker 1: shave it and that would be the change. And then

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Speaker 1: people are like, oh, he's he's crazy, he's a real

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Speaker 1: card that one. How's the baby? Everything good? Yeah, everything's good.

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Speaker 1: I've yeah, it's it's weird, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And we're like trying to figure everything out. But I

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Speaker 1: missed touring, not even performing. I don't That's the thing

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Speaker 1: I've realized, Like I don't have to be on zooms

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Speaker 1: and doing it like that, to be like, hey, tell

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Speaker 1: jokes and look at me like that's been a very

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Speaker 1: relieving part of this for me. It was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't have to do that part. I can write

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Speaker 1: or be on podcast or do whatever and get that.

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Speaker 1: But like the traveling part, like I really meant like

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Speaker 1: that's part of me that I didn't realize that. Go

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Speaker 1: I have to go be moving. Yeah. Is it like

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Speaker 1: the like because you feel sort of constrained or it's

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Speaker 1: more like the stimulation of traveling is what you miss. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not constrained. I like it being at home. I

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Speaker 1: have Like that's what that was never a problem. Even

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Speaker 1: before quarantine. My wife would have to be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: little room. I'm good, right, got almost just getting getting

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Speaker 1: on a plane, new places, the air smells different, eat something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then it's just a nice reminder. First of all,

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Speaker 1: it makes things real, may I Like, well, when we

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Speaker 1: went to for the Grown Local podcast, my cannabis podcast,

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Speaker 1: we just went to a Humboldt for three or four days.

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Speaker 1: We took a lot of precautions, but it it helps it.

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Speaker 1: It's tough to get there. So even the virus was like, ah,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of us up there, but we don't yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't like them that bad. But like even being

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Speaker 1: up there, it was just like my friend had never

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Speaker 1: are pretty one of our producers that never been up there,

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Speaker 1: and he just kept going like it's magical, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, well, keep in mind, it's just mostly trees.

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Speaker 1: first time. So it is, but that's that that other

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Speaker 1: feeling that you have is just like you're breathing what

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to be breathing. Yeah, just pure gen, dude, oxygen.

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Speaker 1: The bar is so low, man, the bar is so low.

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Speaker 1: And well, then like I got a test as soon

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Speaker 1: as I came back, and because you come back to

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Speaker 1: is just what breathing is. OK? Right right? What is

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Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? Getting ready for your day?

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Speaker 1: I'm just not going anywhere. Get up, get dressed, do

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Speaker 1: your makeup. Hello, yeah, you know, look cute, and then

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Speaker 1: mean I started putting on clothes I haven't worn on

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Speaker 1: I don't care like this. I'm surprised this shirt has

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Speaker 1: I'm like, look, man, it's a pandemic. Dude, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But that's just it is what it is. I feel

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Speaker 1: like there's like a sleep and this is definitely not

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Speaker 1: scientifically accurate, but I wake up so much more if

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Speaker 1: I take a shower. If I don't take a shower,

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Speaker 1: I feel like sleep is like still clinging to my skin,

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Speaker 1: hot shower, cold shower? It doesn't matter. But you know

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Speaker 1: I need it to just be. There's actually a second

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Speaker 1: middle point not too hot, not too cold. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's appropriate for both my two year old

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Speaker 1: you know, and I do use no tear shampoo. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: like Sarah's doing a zoom call with a patient, and

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Speaker 1: I come in out of the shower with just like,

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Speaker 1: I added a cold shower because yeah, it's really hard

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Speaker 1: for two songs like whatever it takes through. Well, obviously

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Speaker 1: wet ass pussy right now. Um, oh my gosh, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's just whatever beyond stage a dinna, whatever

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Speaker 1: Interesting because in my see, I'm preparing for just all

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Speaker 1: out battle. So I'm thinking, like, Okay, I'm gonna listen

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what i mean, like just trying

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Speaker 1: more like use that energy and they're redirected to motion. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's sort of a new end. But yeah, I never

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Speaker 1: I never really like switched to the like, you know,

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Speaker 1: presentable even if I'm just walking to my zoom call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I'm still baby, so pants will never die. What's

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Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? Something is underrated, man, walking

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Speaker 1: walking is underrated. I didn't realize I wasn't a walker

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Speaker 1: I don't like running outside. Uh By, need me some

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Speaker 1: kind of cardio, bro. So I've just been walking in

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Speaker 1: But now like walking is just very it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: a little Jomba juice favor called jomba now just jomba.

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Speaker 1: We were covering that because they wanted to. They didn't

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Speaker 1: that's like what your health store mother told you in

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Speaker 1: the early nineties and ship right. Yeah, I'm more like

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Speaker 1: mego go goes consistent? You feel me? That's that's a

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Speaker 1: your pockets. Like that's oh yeah, like Jamba dacheries. Yeah, yeah, wow,

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Speaker 1: like those Dakari bars in like littered all over Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Like if John Pa just had one that they're like

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Speaker 1: you know it's funny. I promise you. Somebody at Jamba

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Speaker 1: rest that night wocome like I call it Jumba after

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Speaker 1: what about a jackery. It's like no jump um. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Walking is I think people are starting to appreciate walking again.

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Speaker 1: That was a big It was a big thing I

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Speaker 1: think throughout history, Like I know Ben Franklin was like

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Speaker 1: people don't stand but walking is really good for you.

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Speaker 1: Most people try to avoid it. Um But then like

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Speaker 1: the jogging craze came around. But now I think something

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Speaker 1: also the fact that Paul Rudd said that the way

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Speaker 1: think people see um individuals living in encampments in their

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Speaker 1: neighborhood that they've seen for years, and they just get

426
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Speaker 1: into this thing of Okay, well they don't want to

427
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Speaker 1: go inside. You know, I'm sure that I'm paying all

428
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Speaker 1: these taxes for homeless services. They must be getting the

429
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Speaker 1: help that they need, and they're saying no, when in

430
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Speaker 1: reality that's so not the case. And you know, one

431
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Speaker 1: fact I always share with people which I feel like

432
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Speaker 1: really really makes people step back, is you know, New

433
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Speaker 1: York City has a larger population of of people who

434
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Speaker 1: are homeless, right, Um, but so many fewer people who

435
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Speaker 1: live on the streets because they have the number of

436
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Speaker 1: shelter beds that they need for every person experiencing homelessness

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Speaker 1: in New York. That's part of a court case that

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Speaker 1: was in the City of New York that forces them

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Speaker 1: to do that. And so because of that, you just

440
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Speaker 1: see much less visible homelessness. And so when you tell

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Speaker 1: people that, you're like, oh, yeah, that's right, and l

442
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Speaker 1: A has less than a quarter of the shelter beds

443
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Speaker 1: that we need. So a big part of why people

444
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Speaker 1: are on the streets and continue to be on the streets,

445
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Speaker 1: it's because they don't have a place to go. And

446
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Speaker 1: so I think that really it really helps to open

447
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: up the conversation about not about anger towards people who

448
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Speaker 1: are living on the streets, but anger towards the city

449
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: that's done raw by them, of course, but by all

450
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Speaker 1: of us. You know. Yeah, that's so deeply American to

451
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: blame the individual rather than the system, Like that just

452
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: seems to be the way the story that Americans want

453
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Speaker 1: to tell ourselves. Yeah, they're sort of like the worst

454
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: rhetorical habit we have when engaging in an issue like that.

455
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Speaker 1: It's almost like it's never like the normally you'd be like, yeah,

456
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: what's wrong with them? And what is the conditions in

457
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Speaker 1: which this occurred? Because that is actually more important than Hey,

458
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: what's your story? Do you like living on the street

459
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: to know there's there's a whole path that got there.

460
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Speaker 1: They got there and a number of failures occurred on

461
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Speaker 1: along the way to end up there. And I think, yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: we just have this lack of wanting to like say

463
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Speaker 1: our parents are shitty or something that like that the

464
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: politicians or the country could be better, and then it's

465
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Speaker 1: better to be like, well, it's got to be them

466
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Speaker 1: because I'm doing okay, and so that's it's not the

467
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: system because I'm okay in it. Yeah, And I just

468
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Speaker 1: want to say one thing about Americans, which is this

469
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: is not an immutable fact about Americans, right, because the

470
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: campaign has been so successful at pushing back on that,

471
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: and I feel like people want to push back on that.

472
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Speaker 1: They want to believe the best about other humans, and

473
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Speaker 1: I think they want to be able to respond to

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Speaker 1: this issue and every other issue with with compassion. Most

475
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Speaker 1: people do, and I think if you tell them we

476
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Speaker 1: have failed in providing evidence based, compassionate solutions here in

477
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, but we can. They're like, oh, yes, okay, perfect,

478
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Speaker 1: let's do that. You know, they don't want to be

479
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Speaker 1: They don't. I don't. I mean, I wouldn't be doing

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Speaker 1: this if I I didn't believe that most people felt

481
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Speaker 1: that way. You know. Yeah, I feel like we've seen

482
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Speaker 1: things metastasize, like seeing some of these beliefs that have

483
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: been kind of core to the American ethos just metastasized

484
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Speaker 1: so badly. And also there's sort of a disconnect with

485
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Speaker 1: younger people and you know, millennials and gen z that

486
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Speaker 1: I I'm really hopeful that that is going to be

487
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: a relic of of the past, that that idea of

488
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: like individualism and the idea that socialism is like a

489
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: bad word. Alright. So our writer j M was wondering

490
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Speaker 1: what Halloween is gonna look like in all the big

491
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Speaker 1: celebrations that theme parks like where you get chased by

492
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: people dressed as zombies and all that good ship have

493
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Speaker 1: already been canceled. Um trigger treating. I think the Reason

494
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: poll found that only twenty seven percent of parents are

495
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: planning on taking their kids out this year. Um, there's

496
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Speaker 1: actually an app that was created by I think Marsh

497
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: that is basically virtual trigger treating where you like go

498
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Speaker 1: around on your phone and get like io used for

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Speaker 1: candy from your neighbors, which sounds are they legally binding exactly? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how we save the post office. We get the

501
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: the candy, put it in the mail, ship it to

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00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: the children's houses. Pect like huge, huge rush on shipping

503
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: the last weekend in October going into the beginning of November. Yeah, oh,

504
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Speaker 1: I take it back because it's going to be hard

505
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Speaker 1: for that take counted zone. I like this. Yeah, watch

506
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: Trump is like this is what you're gonna hold it

507
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Speaker 1: for after the election, you know what I mean? The

508
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: new Halloween November great, yeah, Thanksgiving, Black Friday, Halloween Sunday

509
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: or Halloween Saturday, just turning November all the way up.

510
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Speaker 1: But the way the app works is basically neighbors by

511
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Speaker 1: credits for their candy, kids collect and redeem it participating stores,

512
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: so there's never any interaction. Um. And then if how

513
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Speaker 1: do you judge the neighbors for the kind of candy

514
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Speaker 1: they get? I mean comments like notes like man, right,

515
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm about to redeem with coupon for toothbrushes,

516
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: like yell for some ship, right, and you send them

517
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: gifts of eggs and toilet paper if if they have

518
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: a black candy with like three eminem's in a little

519
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: fun size bag. All right, this is my eighties stand

520
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Speaker 1: up routine. What's the what's the neal? Why are they

521
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Speaker 1: called fun? That's don't have fun. It's not enough candy

522
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: to have fun. You want the whole thing. It's old Silts.

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Speaker 1: Did you read his op ed in the New York Times?

524
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Speaker 1: Even it was like it was I it was so

525
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Speaker 1: weird because it was like sort of adopting this attitude

526
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Speaker 1: of like, for the people who think New York's dead,

527
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: look at yourself. This whole city, it's built on people

528
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: picking it up from the ashes and making it better.

529
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Speaker 1: When I woved here in the lake seven days before

530
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: they dogs Pooper Scooper loves, there was dog shit everywhere.

531
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Speaker 1: I didn't leave. I know it, and I love that.

532
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: And it was like this whole thing about the resilience

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Speaker 1: of New Yorkers, which is true, but like it was,

534
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Speaker 1: it was also aimed at somebody who had said that

535
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Speaker 1: like New York's dead and like and that that really

536
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: that really really got him fired up. But then it's

537
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: also like my man, like you you have so much money,

538
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Speaker 1: like you have a like a gilded palace in the

539
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: sky in which you look down upon Manhattan like from

540
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Speaker 1: versus like you're not elbow to elbow with people like

541
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Speaker 1: on the Metro or some ship like that. You know, so,

542
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: uh everybody is aunt, you know, right, there are people,

543
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: it turns out so but yeah, it was interesting because

544
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: while I was like, okay, I get the feeling like

545
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: I felt like New York Twitter, like it was very split,

546
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: like a lot of people like this is the ship man,

547
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Speaker 1: thank you, and then like Jack Possobiac, the fucking right

548
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: wing troll was sort of like, uh, Jerry Seinfeld's a billionaire,

549
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: And I was like what, okay, granted, but like, okay,

550
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: so now you found the same take as leftist Twitter. Congrats.

551
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah. They accidentally hit on the truth every

552
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: once in a while. Yeah, it's always funny, and they're

553
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: like right, it's usually in response to like a Hollywood

554
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: like celebrity doing something right. But it's like somehow the

555
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: other billionaires, You're like, no, they're they're okay, like what

556
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: they're trying to do is create liberty in this kind right. Yes,

557
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: one trend that originated in Japan and seems to be

558
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Speaker 1: at least people are trying it out here drive through

559
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: haunted houses, where that sounds kind of lit. Yeah, I mean,

560
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: judging from the pictures, it basically looks like a reverse

561
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: car wash where people just like smear your windshield with

562
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: fake blood. But but they I don't know, I would

563
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: be freaked out. I actually went to that was what

564
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Speaker 1: I did with my kids this weekend, Is took them

565
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: to a car wash, and that was thoroughly entertaining. So

566
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: drive through, Yeah, that's the thing. Like a reverse car

567
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: wash would be even better. Who when you're in there,

568
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: I also feel like if you're real jumpy, like you'd

569
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: be like, sir, turn your car off and please put

570
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: the keys in this plate so there's you don't errently

571
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: run over this characters try to reverse car wash because

572
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: all it takes one person and not really be on

573
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: top of ship and you have a real fucked up

574
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: haunted house situation, like it would need to be like

575
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: a car wash where you're on the like, but even

576
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: then in neutral yeah, even because I remember one of

577
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: the first times in high school, I got in one

578
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: of those things. I was like, don't I leave it

579
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: and drive like it's not going and I could sell it,

580
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: like sh it almost rearinted this escalator was like no, no no, no, no,

581
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: this ain't it. Yeah, based on the pictures, that looks

582
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: like you just drive into a little storage container. People

583
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: just roll up to your car and act like zombies

584
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: and pull at your window and then it's like, all right,

585
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: you can you can leave now. Okay. So it's like

586
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: having a BLM sign in your car going through like

587
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: a conservative rally or something. Yeah, exactly, all lives back

588
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: the blue. Okay, thank you, you're smearing my car with

589
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: your hot sauce and mustard. All right, let's take another

590
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. And we're back finally.

591
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: What is a myth? What's something people think it's true

592
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: you know to be false that uh, entertainers are artists. Okay,

593
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: oh man, yeah, tell them tell them about that one.

594
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: By the way, I love every time you're the guest,

595
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: just watching you figure out what your myth and overage

596
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: and underrages you like, have like three ideas are entertaining

597
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: before you land on the on the one you want

598
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: to go, how did you have that evolution of looking

599
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: at entertainers as artists and like sort of mystifying that

600
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: and then realizing like what the not, like these are

601
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: different things, or like creating a myth thought, like a

602
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: mysticism around the idea of being an entertainer artist because

603
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: I know I had these like perceptions of what that

604
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: meant that I had to very quickly let go of,

605
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: like as I got older and started like doing my

606
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: own work. Yeah, I think it was a lot of

607
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: like you have this idea of they misused those words

608
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: a lot, right, And then in like and in country music,

609
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: they have this thing called Entertainer of the Year, which

610
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: I think is as I got older, is like that's

611
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: the most appropriate worded award I've ever seen, because like,

612
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, it hit me because it was like Garth

613
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: Brooks hey kept winning it. And then as you get

614
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: older you realize, like, this motherfucker's all over the place

615
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: opinion wise, if you if you follow his catalog or

616
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: like what he's saying or anything, you're like, I don't think,

617
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what he really it's just all over

618
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: the place. Uh, And then you just realize, like he's

619
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: an entertainer. He's gonna do anything, hop around and you know,

620
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: and he's wearing whatever town jersey he's in playing that arena,

621
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Speaker 1: he's gonna pa. You know that that's a you start

622
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: realizing like, oh, that's him. This is a all this

623
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: is a business decision. M hm. So that's and I

624
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Speaker 1: don't think if I didn't get into doing what I do,

625
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: because I would have ever put those together in a

626
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: way that's me saying it on a podcast as meaningful

627
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: as I said it, because I wouldn't care. But I

628
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: think everybody you come to a point when you doing,

629
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: when you're putting your name on something, the are your ideas.

630
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: You have to make that decision like is this for

631
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: money or is this for this? Where am I doing

632
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: all this for money? Right? You know? So I think

633
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: it was just something I had to my My point

634
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: of view of it was like I made a point

635
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Speaker 1: where I was like as long as I admit to

636
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: myself what I'm doing and to everybody else, as long

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Speaker 1: as I'm clear like this is for this and this

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Speaker 1: is my point of view, but I'm transparent about it,

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Speaker 1: then we're fine. It was the melding of like artists

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Speaker 1: and entertainer where you're like, no, you're just selling ship

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Speaker 1: man that and that's fine, but don't don't lie to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't sunk up the definition like that, because it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of quotes that go around where someone

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Speaker 1: that someone famously said is like, you know, in previous eras,

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Speaker 1: people became famous for their eavements, and now we live

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Speaker 1: in an era where fame is the achievement and it's

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Speaker 1: not really about these people actually breaking new ground and

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Speaker 1: doing things. It's just like faced jure, you know, like

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Speaker 1: entity djure that we're all like, we're all obsessed with.

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Speaker 1: And the art thing is also really interesting too, because yeah,

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Speaker 1: like when you create ship you really do have to

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Speaker 1: have a moment where in any creative process you have

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Speaker 1: that self edit thing happening in your head and you

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Speaker 1: have to be careful of who that what that self

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Speaker 1: edit is representing. Is it your is it your perception

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Speaker 1: of what the how the audience is going to take

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Speaker 1: something you're going to say, And then are you changing

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Speaker 1: it because you want to do something that satisfies the

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Speaker 1: audience or are you making a creative decision because you're

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Speaker 1: an artist and you're this is a matter of your

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Speaker 1: own self expression. It's not the You're not You're not

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Speaker 1: sort of fixated on the outcome of how it's received

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Speaker 1: when you're making art, because you're like, this is merely

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Speaker 1: the medium in which I expressed myself in now certain

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Speaker 1: certain mediums like yeah, like you can't just go up

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Speaker 1: there and say some wild shit or do some wild

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Speaker 1: ship and be like that my art. But like on

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Speaker 1: another level, when you like really have these creations that

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Speaker 1: you know, are molding yourself, like that really does come

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Speaker 1: into it, like what am I? What is it for?

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Speaker 1: Who is it for? And why am I doing it?

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting to think about the whole thing

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Speaker 1: on a continuum, like, you know, because there are some

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Speaker 1: people who get into entertainment but are more artists, and

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Speaker 1: then they like don't fit necessarily. Like Andre three thousand,

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Speaker 1: I think of as somebody who's like an artist, but

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Speaker 1: the demands of being like an entertainer like don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: mesh with him, which is why he hasn't like put

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Speaker 1: out an album. Garth is an entertainer. But I've always

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Speaker 1: said Chris Gaines as the artist, right right, Um, I

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Speaker 1: think that that goes that saying he had to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the I don't even know if that's a joke because

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Speaker 1: I can't even because you're not I don't think in

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Speaker 1: I think in some way you're fucking right. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the way he use that. But I do I

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Speaker 1: do love the entertainer verse. Artists like last culture is

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Speaker 1: just as actress or movie star and uh who weekly

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Speaker 1: has a who versus of them? I think artist first,

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Speaker 1: entergy verse entertainer is a really good, uh good conversation starter.

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Speaker 1: We might have to uh make that a podcast. Well,

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Speaker 1: my thing is to like what Miles said is like

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Speaker 1: the fame as a reward is also phony because that's

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Speaker 1: misleading because you us three right now could pull our

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Speaker 1: money together and buy a publicist, and that publicists can

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Speaker 1: make it the three of us, whatever bullshit trio we

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Speaker 1: came up with and make us fucking famous, and people

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Speaker 1: could be like, I don't understand what it is these

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Speaker 1: guys do, and we're like, what we do is we

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Speaker 1: hire up, we pay a publicist this amount of money

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Speaker 1: each month, and they keep us in the fucking rags

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Speaker 1: or whatever system. And now you guys talk about the

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Speaker 1: fucking ding bat trioup, right, yeah, and then and then people,

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Speaker 1: and if it keeps going long enough, we come up

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Speaker 1: with some bullshit to do live. So people just come

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Speaker 1: to see what it is. And it's like they have

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Speaker 1: a cow on stage and one of them milks it.

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Speaker 1: It's weird. The other guy's juggling a soccer ball, smoking

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Speaker 1: a blood. It's exactly And the one dude, I don't

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Speaker 1: even think he knows what's going on, but it works.

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Speaker 1: And I will give them fifty dollars every time they

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Speaker 1: come to keep the other guys like the dancer from

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Speaker 1: a Mighty Mighty Bostones, but there's no music playing. He's

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Speaker 1: just dancing with that from That would be my that's

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Speaker 1: my role. All right. That's gonna do it for this

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Speaker 1: week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if

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Speaker 1: you like to show uh means the world to Miles.

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Speaker 1: He needs your validation. Folks. I hope you're having a

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Speaker 1: great weekend and I will talk to you Monday by

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Speaker 1: four