Speaker 1: Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a
Speaker 1: week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 1: of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He
Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the Ghetto Cutter the same as the
Speaker 1: rich pill poppers in the penthouse the clearing House of
Speaker 1: Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour
Speaker 1: with Ben Maller starts right now. That it does, and
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a good day to day as
Speaker 1: you practice social distancing. The coronavirus continuing on, and we
Speaker 1: have a special edition. Why is this edition of The
Speaker 1: Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and David Gascon different than
Speaker 1: all previous editions of this dopey little podcast that we
Speaker 1: do because we pop our cherry for the first time.
Speaker 1: We have a guest, and I don't usually do guests
Speaker 1: on the Overnight Show. It's just me and a microphone
Speaker 1: and a bunch of crazy people calling up, and that's
Speaker 1: what the way we've done it. And but there's only
Speaker 1: a few people I really want to talk to, and
Speaker 1: one of them we have on today, the great Lenny Dikstra,
Speaker 1: and I I love Lenny. Now if you're I don't
Speaker 1: know how you did not know who Lenny is if
Speaker 1: you're listening to up possibly a sports based podcast. But
Speaker 1: I have ranted for years that life is all about
Speaker 1: the stories. That's all about the stories, the people you meet,
Speaker 1: the places you go along the road of life. And
Speaker 1: nobody has more stories in the world of baseball than
Speaker 1: Lenny Dikester. This guy was part of the nineteen eight
Speaker 1: six Mets, the the biggest frat boy team in my life,
Speaker 1: the eighties six match. He became the incredible Hulk on steroids.
Speaker 1: In fact, he was such an incredible hulk that he's
Speaker 1: the last player at at five ft nine, Lenny Dikester
Speaker 1: was the last player in Major League Baseball to lead
Speaker 1: the league in both hits and walks the same season
Speaker 1: when he was all routed up with the Philadelphia Phillies
Speaker 1: in the early nineties, he ran car washes UH for
Speaker 1: a while, and we didn't even get into that. Uh
Speaker 1: wrote a book. He's been to jail. He was considered
Speaker 1: a Wall Street tycoon at one point. He lost everything,
Speaker 1: went to prison, drug rehab, the whole thing, and we
Speaker 1: even touch on his Howard's Stern interview is famous. Howard
Speaker 1: Stren interview from a couple of years ago, but I
Speaker 1: would say the highlights of what you have to look
Speaker 1: forward to in Giscon. You can touch this up if
Speaker 1: you want. I think the part where he talks he
Speaker 1: tells a story about uh Barry Bonds that I had
Speaker 1: not heard before, and he delves into Donald Trump as well,
Speaker 1: and something that the President of the United States is
Speaker 1: apparently planning to do to help Lenny dikest out. Everything
Speaker 1: that we went through reminds me of the summer of
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen when you told me to watch the Al
Speaker 1: Jazeera documentary on steroid and performance enhancing drugs. Because from
Speaker 1: talking to him, he was out of the curve and
Speaker 1: he was one step ahead of everybody else during his time.
Speaker 1: He was truly a pioneer. Yeah, and I had not
Speaker 1: heard the story. Maybe he wrote about it. I didn't
Speaker 1: see in his book, but he told the story about
Speaker 1: how he first stumbled into steroids. And it's a facinating
Speaker 1: It involves a public library and Mississippi is what it falls,
Speaker 1: which is just just crazy. So I don't want to
Speaker 1: give it away. I don't want to spoil it. Uh,
Speaker 1: it is amazing. Give it up now for the man,
Speaker 1: the myth, the legend Lenny Dixtra, and we begin by
Speaker 1: asking Lenny his thoughts on the current situation involving the coronavirus.
Speaker 1: I'm not straighted out and I don't think it's bullshit.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, today they announces over a
Speaker 1: thousand deaths now and in the United States. But I
Speaker 1: mean the bottom line is is when there's uncertainty, uh,
Speaker 1: people just don't know what to do and and and
Speaker 1: that's where the panic comes. Uh. You know, life is
Speaker 1: about trying to get yourself in a predictable situation, whether
Speaker 1: you're playing baseball and trying to get to get ahead
Speaker 1: of the count or anything else in life. And this
Speaker 1: is so unpredictable. So it's it's something like we're kind
Speaker 1: of hunchartered waters. You know. Yeah, now, have you been
Speaker 1: out shopping because I've noticed when I've gone to the
Speaker 1: store and I've only had to do it a couple
Speaker 1: of times a last week because I've been staying home.
Speaker 1: But uh, I think you're in California as I am.
Speaker 1: But people they give you these weird looks like maybe
Speaker 1: not you because they might know who you are, but me,
Speaker 1: they like give you these deaths stairs like they treat
Speaker 1: you like you got to plague or something like, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Have you experienced any of that? And that's how I
Speaker 1: feel when I get my adderall Field, the brook and pharmacy.
Speaker 1: They look at me like I'm sucking, uh getting heroin
Speaker 1: or something. But you don't know. I have. I have
Speaker 1: and people are shared, but I'm not scared. Um, I
Speaker 1: haven't had a cold point five years. Man. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm bulletproofed dude. And I mean, obviously I've had some
Speaker 1: ups and downs. I think would be st say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've had a couple a few, you've had a bumpy
Speaker 1: Speaking of the bumpy ride though, Lendy, what now when
Speaker 1: when you tweeted out that you were going to come
Speaker 1: on and do the podcast and I was excited, thank
Speaker 1: you for that. Immediately the trolls, How do you enjoy
Speaker 1: the trolls, Lendy? They were all over you busting your
Speaker 1: balls on Twitter. You must enjoy that, right, That's that's
Speaker 1: the players, that's what's all about. And you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta have the I mean, remember, I was voted as
Speaker 1: the most hated player in the league five years ago
Speaker 1: by the opposing team, and that's because I made their
Speaker 1: job sucking hard. And like I told my my teammates,
Speaker 1: I see you talking to the other team. We're fighting, okay,
Speaker 1: we're playing for real fucking money. And and so when
Speaker 1: we go on the road, here's what we do. We
Speaker 1: go to their house, we take their money, and we
Speaker 1: sucked their women. And that's how we roll, okay. And
Speaker 1: so so yeah, I mean they're haters, but the bottom
Speaker 1: line is they don't know me. They're nothing about me, okay,
Speaker 1: And so I don't give a funk, and I just
Speaker 1: tell the truth. So I roll. Letty, you mentioned being bulletproof.
Speaker 1: There's a fascination going on right now here in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles that most of the gun stores are out of ammunition. Um,
Speaker 1: what kind of self protection do you have right now? Um?
Speaker 1: All I have is, uh, well, my nickname is Nail,
Speaker 1: So I got a ham rass about it. I've never
Speaker 1: shot a gun before. Man. I you know, talking to
Speaker 1: a guy that had one friend in high school and
Speaker 1: the only reason I had one friend and said I
Speaker 1: need somebody to play cats with, you know. Uh so so, Um,
Speaker 1: the bottom line is, you know, you have all this,
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and then you have things like Ron
Speaker 1: Darling this guy that you know wrote this book full
Speaker 1: of lies and and you know, the press kind of
Speaker 1: you know, everyone brought into this this cancer bullshit, he says.
Speaker 1: And uh, that's uh, that's gonna be the next virus,
Speaker 1: so rond varmin virus. Letty, I gotta follow open that.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about that anyway, Like I
Speaker 1: did some some BS monologues on the radio about that
Speaker 1: when that story came out and you sued Ron Darling,
Speaker 1: and somebody put the video up, the raw feed from
Speaker 1: that World Series game at Fenway, and I couldn't hear
Speaker 1: anything that he had claimed that. You say, how was that?
Speaker 1: But how's the lawsuit going though? Has that been settled? Well?
Speaker 1: The figger than the lawsuits, though, Ben, I mean like
Speaker 1: I haven't really went public and said this before. Um
Speaker 1: but because your stars on the rise and uh um
Speaker 1: and and in fact, I was talking to one of
Speaker 1: your your main guys that I've heard yesterday. Uh not
Speaker 1: not the soul as cool as hell, but but Ron Darling.
Speaker 1: Um Um, there's a lot more of that story than
Speaker 1: than a defamation lawsuit. Okay, this's a it could be.
Speaker 1: It could be the biggest story and since since since
Speaker 1: the juice got loose, you know, really, and are you
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you go back and look at the the coincidence,
Speaker 1: I think not okay, And again, why would you take
Speaker 1: me to make it? Might you want to make the
Speaker 1: last motherfucker you want to make an enemy of his me? Okay?
Speaker 1: Because and that's what he did. And so and now
Speaker 1: there's there's I have, you know, documented attacks of what
Speaker 1: really happened. And so someone someone's gonna pay and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be me. But that's still going through the legal process, right, Lenny,
Speaker 1: it's still yeah, legal, But like I said, this is
Speaker 1: way bigger than legal process. This is about the integrity
Speaker 1: of the game, which is which is the most important
Speaker 1: thing that major eat baseball. So, um, somebody's gonna have
Speaker 1: to do something here quick or like I said, um um,
Speaker 1: this will make the scronavirus took like children's play. Lenny's
Speaker 1: he you know, the EIGHTI six Mets a legendary team
Speaker 1: of course, But is he like the guy? Obviously you
Speaker 1: don't like him now, but is there anybody else that
Speaker 1: you don't get along with on that team or every
Speaker 1: everyone else? Still, you guys, we got along great. No
Speaker 1: one likes him, You know we called him Mr P.
Speaker 1: I nicknamed Mr P you know, Mr Perfect because you
Speaker 1: know he went to Yale and and Press. I gave
Speaker 1: him credit for getting away with that ship he had
Speaker 1: for twelve years of less and the big leagues, I
Speaker 1: mean they had not on the ball with his sucking hand. Uh.
Speaker 1: But but but at the end of the day, Um,
Speaker 1: when you fucking lie, okay, or we need to tell lies,
Speaker 1: and then you have to start covering them lines up, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know you start getting uh, doors started opening that
Speaker 1: you never thought would open. And that's why I had
Speaker 1: to tell the truth. A lot of people don't like
Speaker 1: me for that, but guess what, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: That's how I roll. You know, I'm a man of
Speaker 1: the people. Lenny, you talk about the game baseball real quick.
Speaker 1: How clean do you think it is compared to the
Speaker 1: early two of thousands or late nineties. That's a great question.
Speaker 1: Is it's cleaning to guess? There's definitely no drugs in baseball? Um,
Speaker 1: meaning you have a French player that that's going to
Speaker 1: be released or something that that might you know, amp
Speaker 1: Up and the US are raw, but overall they've they've
Speaker 1: cleaned up the drugs are definitely out of baseball. So
Speaker 1: what does baseball do? I mean, think about it. They
Speaker 1: shattered the home running record for a single season, after
Speaker 1: all the drugs are out of baseball. Well, how they
Speaker 1: do that? Really simple? Major League Baseball touch the scenes
Speaker 1: way down, okay, and major balls like like like super Bowls.
Speaker 1: And again I'm not a physics guy, but I know
Speaker 1: one thing. Waits to fly my private jet and I say,
Speaker 1: my flops go down. That obviously so is the plane down.
Speaker 1: So when them scenes are not up okay, and they're
Speaker 1: down and they're flush, balls are going to travel, okay.
Speaker 1: So and that's a major Baseball just created that. So
Speaker 1: with that being said, then with with launch angles and
Speaker 1: eggs of loss and everything that we talked about now,
Speaker 1: with sever metrics and everything of major League baseball, if
Speaker 1: Ben and I put you in in the commissioner's seat
Speaker 1: and we said, hey, you are now Rob Manfred, how
Speaker 1: would you execute the punishment to the Houston Astros for
Speaker 1: this season? Another great question. First of all, that was
Speaker 1: a fucking joke. Okay, I mean listen, I've played in
Speaker 1: the Big league swove years, so let's let's let's play
Speaker 1: this out here. We go ready, okay. So so I'm
Speaker 1: in the battles box, okay, And so the pisture's shaking off,
Speaker 1: shakes off. Then he says again he starts his wine.
Speaker 1: That means the guy in center field or whatever the
Speaker 1: fun they got out there has to has the number
Speaker 1: one guest, right because you know, because they changed the
Speaker 1: sequence probably every other ending, so he has to guess. Right.
Speaker 1: Then they have to get it to the to the
Speaker 1: guy who's got the trash cans and can imagine hitting
Speaker 1: like we're gonna sucking trash. Can somebody hang the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: meaning like, and the guy's gonna wind up? I mean
Speaker 1: they it looked like man looks like it needs something
Speaker 1: to do, and it's just it's way out of control.
Speaker 1: I mean, people am still in signs since since baseball
Speaker 1: has has been around. I mean, but again, like people
Speaker 1: think that that happens impossible. I played the game. It's impossible.
Speaker 1: And you get crossed up one time. He crossed up
Speaker 1: one time. As a hitter. You're you're gonna you're gonna say,
Speaker 1: don't ever give me the signs signs again. You know,
Speaker 1: I got a funny story speaking in Houston. It happened
Speaker 1: in Houston. Remember Craig Digo, he was he came up
Speaker 1: as a catcher. So so the first two at the
Speaker 1: Weekend Series series, they're the first two games. I was
Speaker 1: like gay free. And on Sunday he says to me,
Speaker 1: I'm leaving off. He says, since we can't get you
Speaker 1: out when we don't, when we don't know what's coming,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you every pitch that's coming, every attack.
Speaker 1: And so now he's just kind of pregning with me.
Speaker 1: He says, here kind of fast, far right down the middle,
Speaker 1: and the picture throw the passot right down in the
Speaker 1: middle boughtom mine. Long story short, he gave me every
Speaker 1: pitch because he's fuck with my mind. I went over
Speaker 1: for yeah, but but later you know, that's how mental
Speaker 1: it is. The astro thing though, Lenny. In the World
Speaker 1: Series video, you could see the setup like behind the
Speaker 1: dugout where they were relaying the signs, and it was
Speaker 1: like they weren't even hiding it. They were like they
Speaker 1: were right in your face, like they had this whole
Speaker 1: thing with the monitors and the whole deal. And they
Speaker 1: were even people on the internet to think that al
Speaker 1: Tube was wearing a buzzer that I love. That gets
Speaker 1: me hard man. Here that dodger the case five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to have umpires be followed around. Okay, So,
Speaker 1: like I said, what Houston did spist get? That gets
Speaker 1: me off man, because that's hard to do it. They
Speaker 1: trust me, all right, Lenny, Let's move on to listen
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I gotta ask you a boy this. Now.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who cares about all
Speaker 1: of fame, but this is something that bothered me. You know,
Speaker 1: back in the day in the in the peak of
Speaker 1: the steroider, which you're familiar with. Of course you were
Speaker 1: part of it. But uh, like you look at certain
Speaker 1: guys are allowed in the Hall of Fame like Pledge Rodriguez,
Speaker 1: Mike Piazza, guys that are suspected of using p d s,
Speaker 1: and then other guys like Bonds and Clemens are black
Speaker 1: from the Hall of Fame. How do you feel about
Speaker 1: that money? That's not funny? Then I know you're no
Speaker 1: wonder You're you're rating it so high, dude, you you
Speaker 1: picked up you pick an area that I literally got
Speaker 1: escorted out by the by the Hall of Fame police
Speaker 1: because I went in there, and I wanted to know.
Speaker 1: I said, how are the three best players in the
Speaker 1: history of baseball not in the Hall of Fame? I said, like,
Speaker 1: what's the fucking threshold? What makes somebody bad enough not
Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame? So is it
Speaker 1: okay to be your wife? Is it okay to take
Speaker 1: instead of me? What makes somebody bad enough? So I
Speaker 1: went off on them, I captain. They went as to
Speaker 1: me because they don't have an after and like you
Speaker 1: said that, everybody took in set. It means in the
Speaker 1: in the seventies, and that's a fact, undisputed. Instead of
Speaker 1: means are much more performance enhancing them than steroids because
Speaker 1: they get you up and you're playing every night and
Speaker 1: a rigorous schedule. Um um. But then when you combine
Speaker 1: the two like I did, then you have gears like
Speaker 1: I have. Never mind um anyway. But the bottom line
Speaker 1: is is the Hall of Fame is a mess. Because look,
Speaker 1: if they want to have a good guy, a hall
Speaker 1: of Fame for the good guys, then that's fine, you know,
Speaker 1: but the Hall of Fame is supposed to be at
Speaker 1: least I believe this is what you do on the field.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you take Bond is the first ten
Speaker 1: years where you played Pittsburgh, Okay, until I showed him
Speaker 1: how to shoot steroids, And I take credit for that.
Speaker 1: We'll get back to that later. But the bottom line
Speaker 1: is their fifth best overall. Okay, Roger Clemens. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that that beats the beds by
Speaker 1: the way, and that's impossible to do. Trust me, I
Speaker 1: know all about that, Okay, And so I couldn't get
Speaker 1: an answer from because they don't have an answer. So
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm something's got to change there. Be sure
Speaker 1: to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays
Speaker 1: at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Speaker 1: Radio and the I Heart Radio app Lanny. What about
Speaker 1: the drug usage itself with Bonds? Like, like, what what
Speaker 1: exactly did you help him with that? You mentioned the steroids,
Speaker 1: but what exactly was he taken? I mean, I know
Speaker 1: there's a concoction of a couple of different things, but
Speaker 1: what wasn't the cocktail? Yeah, we'll see Bonds. I gotta
Speaker 1: give him credit. See so remember in Christcoe candlestick Um
Speaker 1: you had to walk you know, you came out of
Speaker 1: like the clubhouse, who came out on right field had
Speaker 1: and walked. That's the batting case. So I'd always see
Speaker 1: you know him and in Dusty Baker and Dusty Baker
Speaker 1: as cool as fuck. Come I any manager wears wrist fans.
Speaker 1: You gotta love that. Um. But but um Bonds, you'd
Speaker 1: always say, you know, because you know, I knew him
Speaker 1: from from before and and and I'd always say to them.
Speaker 1: He'd always say to me, do like, how how are
Speaker 1: you doing this? Man? Like? How are you? How are
Speaker 1: you saying this throng? I told him. I told him
Speaker 1: the whole story. You know, um objected. They're born, you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of a chest
Speaker 1: officeron and some some sesston and you're on your way
Speaker 1: rock and roll, you know, and you walk walking into
Speaker 1: that box that you got a fifteen inch cock man.
Speaker 1: And and the bottom line is the disciplined Bonds had
Speaker 1: to wait. Okay. And and I mean, if you think
Speaker 1: about the numbers of this idea, steroids are a note steroids. Okay,
Speaker 1: I led the league and walks two years, two separate years.
Speaker 1: One time I had a hundred twenty or something. One
Speaker 1: time I have something like that. This motherfucker watched two
Speaker 1: hundred eighty seven times when you're eighty intense seven or
Speaker 1: seven or eight intensil. Those are little league numbers, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, the bottom line is, if you wanted to
Speaker 1: find Barry Bonds, you can do two ways. Barry Bonds
Speaker 1: the best players to ever put on a baseball uniform.
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds the biggest dick they ever put on a
Speaker 1: baseball uniform. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Speaker 1: Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Lenny,
Speaker 1: when who inspired you to do the steroids? Like? How
Speaker 1: at what point? I know you probably talked about in
Speaker 1: the past, but I don't. I have not heard it.
Speaker 1: So like, did somebody advise you some other player and
Speaker 1: tell you, hey, here's how you do it? Or did
Speaker 1: you learn it on your own? Another A great question.
Speaker 1: Here's what't have them? Davy Johnson, manager of the mess
Speaker 1: them dumb. That's overrated, overrated, under under daving manager in
Speaker 1: the history of baseball. Um he um. I finally got traded.
Speaker 1: I was in We're playing the Phillies and I'm writing
Speaker 1: at I was stations because he can't fortune of me,
Speaker 1: and I said, listen, man, I gotta play. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't just to tune bullshit. So so after my
Speaker 1: second at that, he says, you're done. Said what fluck?
Speaker 1: What fuck you that? I'm not done? He said, no,
Speaker 1: you're done. You're done. So I go up in the
Speaker 1: clubhouse and and and and I get in uh in there,
Speaker 1: and the great Harry Collis is unbelievable. I hear him
Speaker 1: say a lot of actions. They do that, and then
Speaker 1: it was initials or l D. I said, I just
Speaker 1: got fucking traded, man. So I'm sitting in my cubby
Speaker 1: hole and after the game and wincas half on the shoulder.
Speaker 1: I get it. And and they said baby wants to
Speaker 1: see in his office. And so there's Joel McIlvaine in
Speaker 1: there too, you know the Newists, you know newistum he was.
Speaker 1: He was actually pretty cool dude. So Davy Johnson just says, listen,
Speaker 1: we want to thank you for helping us win a
Speaker 1: world series. We just traded you to the Phidelphia affilities.
Speaker 1: I said, wait, the team and the other dug out,
Speaker 1: what do I meet him at home play? What happens?
Speaker 1: So any long story short, So I get there and
Speaker 1: Lee Thomas as a general manager and he's an awesome guy.
Speaker 1: And you know, he says, you're gonna leave up every day.
Speaker 1: So I come out of the gates. I remember, I'm
Speaker 1: only five mile okay, sixty then and I come out
Speaker 1: the gates. I'm raaking. I'm in three. And the bottom
Speaker 1: line is I physically did not have the stamina and
Speaker 1: and and the durability to the last day in, day
Speaker 1: out over the ruling schedule. So I'm timbered. Okay, I
Speaker 1: sell far in eighty nine. But Lee Thomas told me
Speaker 1: after the season, he says, listen, that was your first year.
Speaker 1: You know perst time playing every day. You're gonna lead up.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you. You're gonna lead off every night.
Speaker 1: You have to live the lineup. So now I know
Speaker 1: es basically determine my life. I either got to get
Speaker 1: a real job. I'm gonna make a lot of money.
Speaker 1: So I went too. I was living in Mississippi at
Speaker 1: the time. People who lived there actually and and I
Speaker 1: was living in Mississippi. I went to the library and
Speaker 1: I looked up this is I looked up to say
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. I found he was the sprinter, the runner
Speaker 1: who got caught with WINNI v and so what I
Speaker 1: did is then I went to the yell page. It's so,
Speaker 1: I said to myself, like, I don't need something to
Speaker 1: help me play baseball. I can do that. I need
Speaker 1: something to help me last I stay strong enough to
Speaker 1: last seven months. It is seven months, you know, we
Speaker 1: had spring training and six months. So I found some
Speaker 1: hillbilly doctor in the yello pages. I called him up,
Speaker 1: and I went in there and I explained this what
Speaker 1: I explained to you. I said, listen, I chance to
Speaker 1: make millions of dollars. I said, I need something that's
Speaker 1: gonna keep me strong and keep me durable. So I
Speaker 1: can laugh. I'm a little guy, and said, I run
Speaker 1: around a lot. And I said, by the way, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know what he's gonna give me. So he
Speaker 1: writes the prescription for me. He said, go to write
Speaker 1: eight and filled out, and he gets filled and come back.
Speaker 1: I'll show you how to do it. So I still
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. So it turns out a
Speaker 1: deca durable and I wait a wait in line A right.
Speaker 1: Remember it wasn't illegal then, was the way A head
Speaker 1: of curved and and I used to my prescription filled
Speaker 1: and little vials. I walked back to his office. He's
Speaker 1: got a fucking harpoon waiting for me. Okay, he puts
Speaker 1: it in my ass. I hire a trainer. I worked
Speaker 1: my ass up in the gym. I showed up a
Speaker 1: spring training Reggie Hammond did in that bar in forty
Speaker 1: eight hours. A new sheriff in town, motherfucker's and any
Speaker 1: and ain't Reggie Hammond's. Lenny fucking Dikestro. So I came
Speaker 1: in like a Greek statue with one and and you know,
Speaker 1: true incidence I had that year. I'm on the sub
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated hit four in June. I think, not okay,
Speaker 1: they work and and I told Major League Baseball their
Speaker 1: problem wasn't the drugs. It was steroids because because they
Speaker 1: help you make more money at any time moneys involved,
Speaker 1: people make bad decisions, okay, or decisions that they wouldn't
Speaker 1: normally make, okay. And so that's what happened. What were
Speaker 1: you gonna do. Let the guy next to you take
Speaker 1: him and and and let him. Um you say, I'm
Speaker 1: a good guy, I'm not gonna do it. So you
Speaker 1: get fired and he makes thirty million dollars. So basically
Speaker 1: everybody was taken when we were taking them, but but
Speaker 1: now they're they're all off them now. Well, Lenny, what
Speaker 1: about this though, because you mentioned the off season conditioning,
Speaker 1: but the seven months you got a hundred sixty two
Speaker 1: games spring training and possibly postseason. So what was your
Speaker 1: daily regiment because were you were you stacking it with
Speaker 1: anything else? Like were you taking any human growth hormone
Speaker 1: or or protein? Like what was your diet and your exercise? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I imagine your girls. I was a chemist, bro. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence that that my highest average in
Speaker 1: all the stadiums was Houston because he remember, I knew
Speaker 1: the game was never going to be there's every rain delades, see,
Speaker 1: so you know when when when when you're on the ship.
Speaker 1: So the regiment was this, Okay, I'd wake up or
Speaker 1: maybe come to like about twelve o'clock, okay, And the
Speaker 1: first thing I do is whoever was next to me?
Speaker 1: I dropped a thirty texture dream Adam. I wasn't in
Speaker 1: that it was a time release of Dexter three. And
Speaker 1: then I'm taking another one about I don't know five
Speaker 1: for VP, and then I take the bill Heart's Orange,
Speaker 1: going is the Kickers? Okay? And on the steroid part.
Speaker 1: You know, I was um um, I was doing that,
Speaker 1: you know weekly. That's um. I really loaded up in
Speaker 1: had a year that that nobody's really had before. But
Speaker 1: but that was my regiment. And and am I telling
Speaker 1: kids to do that? No? And am I am? I? Am?
Speaker 1: I proud of what I did on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what I do, It's what I do it the same way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know why because I had to. I had to.
Speaker 1: If I didn't do that, I would have had to
Speaker 1: take a you know, get a real job and and
Speaker 1: and you know, take orders from somebody and and live
Speaker 1: with the life that people live out there. And that
Speaker 1: is the husband gets up, he goes to his job
Speaker 1: of the apes. It's back in his car, home to
Speaker 1: his miserable wife, eats of fitty food. They don't fuck
Speaker 1: gets up in the morning, they do it again. I
Speaker 1: can't wait. Yeah, where do I sign up? Fuck that? Man? Well,
Speaker 1: so with that being said, then Lenny, can you take
Speaker 1: us through the darkest moment of your professional career when
Speaker 1: it was in the field to play or offseason activity.
Speaker 1: Another great question, man. You guys have asked some great questions.
Speaker 1: What if we get into fussy But I don't think
Speaker 1: you have enough time for that. Um. But anyways, the
Speaker 1: darkest moment was okay, I'm leading off the All Star game, okay,
Speaker 1: um against Randy Johnson, the Creature, And somehow I battled
Speaker 1: my ass off and work a walk, and you know,
Speaker 1: Felipe Lose the manager at the time, and and he says, listen,
Speaker 1: the only sign the only thing we're doing his own signs.
Speaker 1: But you're running three one, three two, And so I
Speaker 1: was something out bad. I don't get a walk. First
Speaker 1: first a bad painting plane in Texas, so um and
Speaker 1: Bonds sent to the next guy makes it out and
Speaker 1: then Bond ticks three one. I looked at the first
Speaker 1: basebokes my running. He says, yeah, so I don't want
Speaker 1: to pick off, so you know, I go. Bond takes
Speaker 1: a fucking cock shot. Pedro Rie starts a rocket down.
Speaker 1: The ball was waiting for me, talking about the jog
Speaker 1: of shame. And then we got in the outfield and
Speaker 1: I said the Bonds, I said, you know what, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: instead of this pitching around you, I'm gonna tell my
Speaker 1: pitchers I'll throw you in the fucking neck, you sucking dick,
Speaker 1: you know, because you hung out to dry you see,
Speaker 1: and and um, what happened there is the darkest moment
Speaker 1: that wasn't it? That was a black moment, the darkest moment.
Speaker 1: And I don't think I've ever told anybody. This was
Speaker 1: when using you only get like a couple of thats
Speaker 1: and they all start getting because I played the other guys,
Speaker 1: I actually wanted to come out of the All Star
Speaker 1: Game because I was on so many pills and I
Speaker 1: was so fucked up at that time, and you know,
Speaker 1: I was having to take thirty pain pills a night.
Speaker 1: And and I remember when the game ended up, what happened.
Speaker 1: I think I think it might played the whole game,
Speaker 1: you know, And I didn't even want to play, which
Speaker 1: is crazy because that's what I loved it. But it
Speaker 1: was all because of the drugs. And I got in
Speaker 1: my limousine and I laid down on my limousine right
Speaker 1: in the parking lot of Texas, and I said to myself, Wow,
Speaker 1: is this hit man? This really is? I said, So
Speaker 1: what I did after that is I went to Israel
Speaker 1: and I did this special treatment and have them taken
Speaker 1: an an opiated since um um, because you know, we
Speaker 1: have an opiate epidemic out there. But that's how bad
Speaker 1: it was. And it was that bad and that's when
Speaker 1: when the Swiss came on, you know, So that was
Speaker 1: pretty dark and sad actually, you know, yeah, that's wild, Lenny.
Speaker 1: I want to go back the Howard Stern, the famous
Speaker 1: Howard Stern interview did a couple of years ago. How
Speaker 1: did that change your your life? That was legendary, That
Speaker 1: was internet fame. You were talking about your amazing skills
Speaker 1: in the Yeah, it was still amazing. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm an artist, bro. I mean see, I thought
Speaker 1: God put me on the earth to entertain people on
Speaker 1: the baseball field because I was actually pretty good at it,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't my calling. And I realized that he
Speaker 1: put me on earth to help women. You see, that's
Speaker 1: what I do. I'm a giver. I give back and
Speaker 1: so um is it truth? You know? I mean, come on, dude,
Speaker 1: who who who else? Who else gets their keeth taking
Speaker 1: out to do their artwork? Okay, that's somebody dedicated to
Speaker 1: the subfession, you know what I mean? Absolutely? But the women,
Speaker 1: what's it like you're you're getting up there in age now,
Speaker 1: is that you're still getting the younger women letting everything
Speaker 1: good with that? Oh yeah, got a couple of part
Speaker 1: next store. Actually, um, but but the bottom liners, it's
Speaker 1: a deal. I mean, I can't even watch the fucking
Speaker 1: game anymore. If I watched the game, like, there's another
Speaker 1: one of my fucking kids. I mean, but but but
Speaker 1: now that I'm older, like and I have to take
Speaker 1: a dick pill, I have to do this, have to
Speaker 1: do that. I can't come. And if I do come,
Speaker 1: it's like sucking dust, you know, sucking somebody that think
Speaker 1: a murders going on. So I'm basically at the point
Speaker 1: of now just hearing these words, and I'm good. When
Speaker 1: I hear these words, I can't believe I'm doing this.
Speaker 1: I'm sucking straight, you know what I mean. It's a
Speaker 1: thrill to kill. I mean, I've made so many of
Speaker 1: your posit it's just like like that's not even the
Speaker 1: deal anymore, you know what I mean. But let don
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You're gi you give back to
Speaker 1: to the female. I love that line. You go ahead.
Speaker 1: That's right, brother, that's right. I'm giver man. I gave
Speaker 1: back the second I gave back to my team. I
Speaker 1: took a lot of pitches, played the game, right, you know,
Speaker 1: and when the game went When the game went in,
Speaker 1: I'd always go. First thing I do is be line
Speaker 1: right to my club, my locker, and I sit down,
Speaker 1: and that's myself if I were a fan, but dating
Speaker 1: lineing to watch me play the night as I judge
Speaker 1: myself every night and and every night, with the exception
Speaker 1: of one night, the answer was always yes, even if
Speaker 1: I took it over for well, Lenny, outside of the
Speaker 1: game of baseball, you mentioned taking your hacks, So can
Speaker 1: you give us like not a typical night, but one
Speaker 1: of those nights it doesn't matter the city, the country, Like,
Speaker 1: how would you get yourself juiced up no pun intended,
Speaker 1: but juiced up for a night when you had an
Speaker 1: itch where it's like you're out party. Yah, it was
Speaker 1: another great question. Well, you guys are on point. So
Speaker 1: what I did is is again, I've always been to
Speaker 1: have the curve. Okay, I mean you know I was
Speaker 1: I've always you know, kind of been somebody the kind
Speaker 1: of of the curve when I had to because you know,
Speaker 1: I was a little guy and I do I think.
Speaker 1: So what I did is is I didn't say at
Speaker 1: the team hotel. Okay, this is when I was at
Speaker 1: the Philly You know, I was the Metsos young you
Speaker 1: guys just did you know, glad to be there. But
Speaker 1: when I to the Phillies, you know, I never stayed
Speaker 1: the team hotel one one none season I I went,
Speaker 1: you know, starting ninety, I had my boys take out
Speaker 1: the Presidential Suite as the best hotel in the city.
Speaker 1: And I'd have them bring the bar to the suite
Speaker 1: because I got hit by a lot of pisces and
Speaker 1: not that many, Like you're a bar fucking trying to
Speaker 1: scream and talk and you're wasting time. And see, we
Speaker 1: can buy a lot of things with our money, but
Speaker 1: we can't buy times. So what I would do is
Speaker 1: have my boys get to the town and and you
Speaker 1: have everything set up so when the game went out,
Speaker 1: be over. Everything was waiting for him. Okay, that's called
Speaker 1: robes and room service, my friends. Okay. And the only difference,
Speaker 1: the only town that was the worst town on the
Speaker 1: circuit was Dispute, Pittsburgh. So I told my guys and said,
Speaker 1: you've done motherfucker's but the coal miners lads here, what
Speaker 1: you need to do is we're in a couple of youth.
Speaker 1: All is back I'm up to the University of pitt
Speaker 1: and say all fucking alcohols free and drugs free, come
Speaker 1: out of this party. And the next thing I know,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh went from the worst of the best. You know,
Speaker 1: that's how we were. Hold man, what about what about
Speaker 1: in your offseason? Though? Like if you went to Europe
Speaker 1: or Asia? Like, is there any particular city or country
Speaker 1: that was your favorite that I mean you would. Man,
Speaker 1: he hasn't really hit me good with these questions. And
Speaker 1: menacein is the one thing that I'm really not proud of.
Speaker 1: But it was actually a genius. I mean it was
Speaker 1: stuck in a genius um, you know. And and so look,
Speaker 1: I'm not proud of where I lived. I mean I
Speaker 1: had a great wife, and but like I mean, I
Speaker 1: couldn't like, you know, I was used to trap, being
Speaker 1: on the move, so the obviously didn't come and I'd
Speaker 1: get forward. And so the first way I started, I
Speaker 1: go to New York. That's just in Philly, and I said,
Speaker 1: I've seen a shrink and you know, buy a couple
Speaker 1: of nights and be able to do my thing, and
Speaker 1: that shrink out. The way we're talking about rip offs.
Speaker 1: All you want to do is hear my pussy stories unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But then I said, this is something. Glad you better
Speaker 1: because I had my own plane that I the Gulf Stream.
Speaker 1: So so what I did is I came up with
Speaker 1: a story. Hey, listen, there's a new rehab in in Paris. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to try this out, and you know, seems
Speaker 1: I can get better. And the bottom line, it was
Speaker 1: so genius. I have one of my one of my
Speaker 1: one of my boys, or or the people I thought
Speaker 1: were my friend, uh, go pay for it. And and
Speaker 1: so you know, everyone thought I was doing there. But
Speaker 1: the bottom line is I bought thirty days of fucking
Speaker 1: party and dude flying around and sucking in my jet
Speaker 1: in Europe. In Europe from my Carlo to fucking Italy.
Speaker 1: Let's do this way. There's a lot of people have
Speaker 1: had more money and got more money than me, but
Speaker 1: nobody knew how to party like me. Okay, and you
Speaker 1: can believe that. Well, yeah, the whole eighties six minutes.
Speaker 1: By the way, I hit six country. So you know,
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Speaker 1: Search f s are to listen live all right, Lenny,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you now, if you were playing today.
Speaker 1: Now it's changed a lot since you were playing, because
Speaker 1: now everything's on social media. It seems like guys are
Speaker 1: chasing the ladies on Instagram and that's the playground. Like,
Speaker 1: how would you do if you were playing for the
Speaker 1: Mets of the Phillies today with with the ladies? Would
Speaker 1: you do the same You couldn't do it the same way, right,
Speaker 1: you have to change your game up a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you do. So. I have already helped help players do this.
Speaker 1: So so what happens is players, you know, the David
Speaker 1: Day'll get caught. They don't They don't know how to
Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, you gotta know how to maneuver.
Speaker 1: I mean, like the first thing you got to learn it.
Speaker 1: You didn't bring anything home to the life. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: and I sweet this out the other day about you know, again,
Speaker 1: being ahead of the curve. I would take five a
Speaker 1: moxas shone every day, uh way over the prescribed do
Speaker 1: so you're supposed to take them every way, and but
Speaker 1: for me, it was like having a snack run into
Speaker 1: my fucking cock. Okay, I mean, that's sucking genius. I
Speaker 1: built like a moat around my fucking cock. Okay, so so,
Speaker 1: But but what I'm saying is when when when you
Speaker 1: let me ask that question, what would I do today?
Speaker 1: What I did do is so these players they always
Speaker 1: get a cocks. You know how to do it? I said, Look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna create a real estafe fund. Okay, and you
Speaker 1: can assist. You know, if you want to get five okay,
Speaker 1: put it in there, and that's your pussy money. Okay,
Speaker 1: y as how the curve again? Now they don't have
Speaker 1: to keep driving that what credit card should I use?
Speaker 1: But this that you get, you know, to how big
Speaker 1: you want to go and what kind of ammunition and
Speaker 1: what kind of you know, um partner or whatever they are. Um.
Speaker 1: But that's how you do it. See is that genius again?
Speaker 1: Fucking hey man? Oh man, this is a good ship here, man,
Speaker 1: this is a real life ship quality information. You are
Speaker 1: educating information. That's what I'm about. You were again, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: the most valuable commodity I know of his information. And
Speaker 1: I'm giving up some information today and these fucking players
Speaker 1: got to pick it up and learn from it. The
Speaker 1: sure the funk haven't learned from the way you're supposed
Speaker 1: to play baseball, guarantee that, Lenny, Are you a political guy,
Speaker 1: like are you Are you fascinated by the either love
Speaker 1: or hate of President Trump? Yeah? Yeah, I know Trump
Speaker 1: pretty good man. And uh it's amazing how I don't
Speaker 1: know one woman that might say he can't even say
Speaker 1: rights and can't even I mean, for some reason, they
Speaker 1: all they all hate. But I think Trumps sucking. I
Speaker 1: think Trump sountar fucking good job. He's a Trump Trumps fucking.
Speaker 1: He's no pressy man. You know you're hearing all these
Speaker 1: conspiracy things out there about about what's going on with
Speaker 1: this with with you know, people being getting ready to
Speaker 1: be arrested and supposed to Tom Hanks and Ellen de
Speaker 1: Generes and all this crazy ship. But yeah, I know
Speaker 1: Trump Trump, And I remember Trump invited me to his,
Speaker 1: uh the US Open. He had a suite. He bribed
Speaker 1: me there to to watch the US Open finals. And
Speaker 1: I walked in there and there was Anny Kravitz and
Speaker 1: there was p Diddy or Pddy what I don't know
Speaker 1: what his name is now or something like that, whatever.
Speaker 1: Both of them were cool as ship. So's that's three
Speaker 1: and then here comes into Trump walks in. He knows
Speaker 1: everything about us, he took us right night. He was calm.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy, the guy he's set a photographing
Speaker 1: you many. I don't think he's ever had a drink
Speaker 1: in his life. And so, you know, the whole campaign,
Speaker 1: like like when I heard he was winning because I
Speaker 1: didn't want to watch it because I couldn't imagine. That's
Speaker 1: fucking bit chilly. We Clinton me in there, how to
Speaker 1: move to second Filalia? Okay, but but but Trump, Trump's
Speaker 1: a Trump's a politician, but he's also got some brass balls.
Speaker 1: So I mean, i'm he's he's the best guy. We
Speaker 1: guy right now. I don't know about how you guys feel,
Speaker 1: but I mean he's done pretty good so far. Now.
Speaker 1: He was a Yankee fan, right, did you guys ever
Speaker 1: hang on party together? I mean you mentioned the U
Speaker 1: S open? But how well did you know Trump? Like?
Speaker 1: Did you you guys? Yeah? I mean I didn't not party.
Speaker 1: He invited me to mar Largo a couple of times,
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, I mean just we have
Speaker 1: we had some conversations, but I remember when he invited
Speaker 1: me to mar Largo. Man and by the way, I've
Speaker 1: never been a guy. Um, I've never funked around with
Speaker 1: like wives or I've always had my own rules or friends,
Speaker 1: girls or you know, just always ends bad. But when
Speaker 1: I saw that sucking Marla Maples man and man, wow,
Speaker 1: what a fucking queen. And like I did a double take. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean I think she had a real rack okay
Speaker 1: from Georgia. But I think he had a dish here
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think he threw her under the bus.
Speaker 1: And uh but but yeah, so we didn't know, let
Speaker 1: me say, hang out, you didn't really hang out with Trump,
Speaker 1: but he was a politician then, you know, and then
Speaker 1: and and to to the to the to the highest level.
Speaker 1: And and like I said, I mean the thought of
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, by the way, who was a song cald killer. Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought of that dish being in the fucking White House.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Fuck. I mean, did you imagine there
Speaker 1: is a guy up there? Think I think that motherfucker? Alright,
Speaker 1: let me, let me let me follow up. And I
Speaker 1: know what Trump since he became president, he is uh,
Speaker 1: he still talks to Don King and some other people
Speaker 1: as he talked to you. Would he would you consider
Speaker 1: if he offered a job on some panel in Washington,
Speaker 1: some BS sports panel, would you would you take it? Lenny?
Speaker 1: I got something better than that. I'm gonna get parted
Speaker 1: by Tom really fucking hey, and I also want to
Speaker 1: get pardoned by the state of California for this bullshit
Speaker 1: uh thing they came up with. So so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Lenny explained to me, how how does it work? Like you,
Speaker 1: you obviously had some legal jeopardy and some problems, but like,
Speaker 1: do you concoct has he contacted you? You've obviously reached
Speaker 1: out to him. How's this process work? If you want
Speaker 1: to I have no idea to educate me on what
Speaker 1: the parting thing out works. You're a parting days about
Speaker 1: the crazy crying and charging when they hit me for
Speaker 1: bankruptcy fraud when I sold a piece of furns over
Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars, which knows was nothing to do with bankruptcy.
Speaker 1: Thought it was me catching some very powerful people doing
Speaker 1: some very bad thing JP Morgan. But you can google
Speaker 1: it right now and you say say, let you like
Speaker 1: to sue JP Morgan, and it'll say in Google, say
Speaker 1: when you're actually taking one for a hundred million. So
Speaker 1: I caught JP Morgan, I caught a judge, I caught
Speaker 1: six lawyers and a bunch of other people and trustees,
Speaker 1: um all doing some very very um illegal things and
Speaker 1: went after him. And what happened by doing that as
Speaker 1: this big organization called the federal government, um shoot me up,
Speaker 1: like and when they scoot me up, it's not just
Speaker 1: a normal scoop up. Man. You would have thought they
Speaker 1: were fucking kept during Osama bin Laden. Dude, motherfucker's coming
Speaker 1: out of trees. And I didn't know what was going on,
Speaker 1: and so maybe they put them in the cooler and
Speaker 1: they left me in the cool was no bail, okay,
Speaker 1: with no crime, and I was in the dail for
Speaker 1: seven days nobody knew who I was. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think we have this thing called the constitutions, aren't we
Speaker 1: where they can't keep you in there unless they start
Speaker 1: you with a crime, unless you free like after forty
Speaker 1: eight hours. But but um, heywaits, I'm not whining. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, here to bitch about that. That's
Speaker 1: just the truth, call our truth. But but you know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so so yeah, I don't have to get
Speaker 1: get pardoned by Trump because um, that whole story. You know,
Speaker 1: it'll get out there. Lenny, your fifty seven now right
Speaker 1: with mileage bro with milege. And that's why I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you how the fund did you get to forty? Well,
Speaker 1: it's all about number one. It's all about see because
Speaker 1: it was prescription. See that's okay. See a doctor prescribed that, Tommy.
Speaker 1: You see. Um, Now the Keith Richards and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: Well the Keief presure is that that's that's a legendary
Speaker 1: now and natural American leg That was our code name
Speaker 1: for blow, you know, because you know, chief vists for
Speaker 1: the wronging suns. He looks like the line of blow.
Speaker 1: So like you're around the band case, you can't say
Speaker 1: who's got the blow. So it was like, hey, it's
Speaker 1: Richards in the house. And but I was never wanted
Speaker 1: to do much of that, you know, maybe wat the
Speaker 1: chicks chair or something like that. Um um, So I
Speaker 1: was more more into a I didn't like the street drug.
Speaker 1: That was more into the described the approved you can
Speaker 1: see that was okay, even though I took maybe more
Speaker 1: than it was like I was supposed to. Um, I
Speaker 1: did that five guys on the payroll going to the
Speaker 1: doctor's so but that's what you gotta do. I did
Speaker 1: what I had to do. Man, is now my is
Speaker 1: now the eliest drug in the world to me. And
Speaker 1: and that's obviously the opius meaning and unless say opiates um,
Speaker 1: you know, opiates surpain kills, anything that has to do
Speaker 1: with with if you want to opiates are are um.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is is if you're in the same
Speaker 1: car going down the same road with the same destination,
Speaker 1: if you get trapped in that opiate world meaning and
Speaker 1: by the way, on that road, there's no there's no
Speaker 1: you can't say you know what I feel like ship
Speaker 1: I want yah, No, no, motherfucker, you're gonna pay because
Speaker 1: I'm at the end of that road. It's called dead end, okay,
Speaker 1: And you're gonna get there, and you want to get
Speaker 1: there faster. Take Carolin, we want to get the sower.
Speaker 1: Take back here. So remember nine, So all my teenmates
Speaker 1: would be drinking like fifteen years after a game and
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do what. I was a leadoft there
Speaker 1: and I told the trainer, I said, listen, then I can't.
Speaker 1: I had surgeries and I was playing every night, we
Speaker 1: were dominating, and I said, there's gotta be something you
Speaker 1: give me. So it gives me one little white bill
Speaker 1: what's happened to be a Viking and five millground pill
Speaker 1: which I put my stuck in cereal, you know. After that,
Speaker 1: But but but but I took that one pill, had
Speaker 1: one drink and stuck to show it up man, And
Speaker 1: I said that. I said, I sucking beat these motherfuckers again.
Speaker 1: I reinvented the wheel. I found the combination of the recipe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now go back to that store we talked about in
Speaker 1: the All Star game. Okay, And so what happens is
Speaker 1: with opiates. You you know again you crossed and imagine
Speaker 1: there's an imaginary line. It's different for everybody. But once
Speaker 1: you become dependent on them and you're endorp and stopping
Speaker 1: and shut down and you're solely dependant on the opiate,
Speaker 1: she gets the opiate withdrawal that is so bad. And
Speaker 1: unless you've been through it, unless someone has been through it,
Speaker 1: there's you know, explaining the pain. I'm not a pussy either, Okay.
Speaker 1: I could not get off those motherfucker's. That's why I
Speaker 1: end up going to Israel heet Off. I was the
Speaker 1: second person in the world to do do a treatment
Speaker 1: called rapid detox. But but and you know, I haven't
Speaker 1: touched one since because you know, like I said, and
Speaker 1: then we haven't opiate epidemic out there. Anybody out there
Speaker 1: taking opiates get shopped right now because it end's sucking bad.
Speaker 1: Trust me, it doesn't end good. I hear you. Uh, Lenny,
Speaker 1: We're up against it. As they said, I want to
Speaker 1: have you on again though, you're I'm fascinated and I
Speaker 1: wanted to have you on a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I want you to know my guy Eddie, who I
Speaker 1: do the radio show with. He he's like afraid of
Speaker 1: He's scared of you. And I was like, you can't
Speaker 1: be afraid of Letty Letty. You're You're not gonna or
Speaker 1: a late night show, right, yeah, we do the overnight show. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right what I'm peaking too. So I'm sucking. It's
Speaker 1: perfect exactly. I don't need to plug, Lenny. We gotta
Speaker 1: get you like a reality show or something. Money. We
Speaker 1: gotta get you something. Yeah, man. The only thing, the
Speaker 1: only thing the prod is is that you know, the
Speaker 1: bottom line is is you know everybody out there is
Speaker 1: a major panic right now with a coronavirus and and
Speaker 1: for good reason, because there's so much unsurety. But it
Speaker 1: will pass. Okay, I mean we're gonna go on a recession,
Speaker 1: We're gonna there's gonna be about problems, but time will pass.
Speaker 1: And just remember that that um, every day above ground
Speaker 1: is a good fucking day. Okay, that's sorry, look at
Speaker 1: life okay, so so so it will pass. But the
Speaker 1: panic is out there and it's getting worse and wor similars.
Speaker 1: But the reality is that that you're gonna be Okay,
Speaker 1: you hating like nails. You stick with nails seven best
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