1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the Ghetto Cutter the same as the 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: rich pill poppers in the penthouse the clearing House of 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: with Ben Maller starts right now. That it does, and 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a good day to day as 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: you practice social distancing. The coronavirus continuing on, and we 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: have a special edition. Why is this edition of The 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and David Gascon different than 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: all previous editions of this dopey little podcast that we 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: do because we pop our cherry for the first time. 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: We have a guest, and I don't usually do guests 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: on the Overnight Show. It's just me and a microphone 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: and a bunch of crazy people calling up, and that's 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: what the way we've done it. And but there's only 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: a few people I really want to talk to, and 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: one of them we have on today, the great Lenny Dikstra, 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: and I I love Lenny. Now if you're I don't 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: know how you did not know who Lenny is if 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: you're listening to up possibly a sports based podcast. But 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: I have ranted for years that life is all about 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: the stories. That's all about the stories, the people you meet, 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: the places you go along the road of life. And 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: nobody has more stories in the world of baseball than 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: Lenny Dikester. This guy was part of the nineteen eight 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: six Mets, the the biggest frat boy team in my life, 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: the eighties six match. He became the incredible Hulk on steroids. 30 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: In fact, he was such an incredible hulk that he's 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: the last player at at five ft nine, Lenny Dikester 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: was the last player in Major League Baseball to lead 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: the league in both hits and walks the same season 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: when he was all routed up with the Philadelphia Phillies 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: in the early nineties, he ran car washes UH for 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: a while, and we didn't even get into that. Uh 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: wrote a book. He's been to jail. He was considered 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: a Wall Street tycoon at one point. He lost everything, 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: went to prison, drug rehab, the whole thing, and we 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: even touch on his Howard's Stern interview is famous. Howard 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: Stren interview from a couple of years ago, but I 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: would say the highlights of what you have to look 43 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: forward to in Giscon. You can touch this up if 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: you want. I think the part where he talks he 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: tells a story about uh Barry Bonds that I had 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: not heard before, and he delves into Donald Trump as well, 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: and something that the President of the United States is 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: apparently planning to do to help Lenny dikest out. Everything 49 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: that we went through reminds me of the summer of 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen when you told me to watch the Al 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: Jazeera documentary on steroid and performance enhancing drugs. Because from 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: talking to him, he was out of the curve and 53 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: he was one step ahead of everybody else during his time. 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: He was truly a pioneer. Yeah, and I had not 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: heard the story. Maybe he wrote about it. I didn't 56 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: see in his book, but he told the story about 57 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: how he first stumbled into steroids. And it's a facinating 58 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: It involves a public library and Mississippi is what it falls, 59 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: which is just just crazy. So I don't want to 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: give it away. I don't want to spoil it. Uh, 61 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: it is amazing. Give it up now for the man, 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: the myth, the legend Lenny Dixtra, and we begin by 63 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: asking Lenny his thoughts on the current situation involving the coronavirus. 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm not straighted out and I don't think it's bullshit. 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, today they announces over a 66 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: thousand deaths now and in the United States. But I 67 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: mean the bottom line is is when there's uncertainty, uh, 68 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: people just don't know what to do and and and 69 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: that's where the panic comes. Uh. You know, life is 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: about trying to get yourself in a predictable situation, whether 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: you're playing baseball and trying to get to get ahead 72 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: of the count or anything else in life. And this 73 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: is so unpredictable. So it's it's something like we're kind 74 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: of hunchartered waters. You know. Yeah, now, have you been 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: out shopping because I've noticed when I've gone to the 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: store and I've only had to do it a couple 77 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: of times a last week because I've been staying home. 78 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: But uh, I think you're in California as I am. 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: But people they give you these weird looks like maybe 80 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: not you because they might know who you are, but me, 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: they like give you these deaths stairs like they treat 82 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: you like you got to plague or something like, it's crazy. 83 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Have you experienced any of that? And that's how I 84 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: feel when I get my adderall Field, the brook and pharmacy. 85 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: They look at me like I'm sucking, uh getting heroin 86 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: or something. But you don't know. I have. I have 87 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: and people are shared, but I'm not scared. Um, I 88 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: haven't had a cold point five years. Man. I'm I'm 89 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm bulletproofed dude. And I mean, obviously I've had some 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: ups and downs. I think would be st say, yeah, 91 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: you've had a couple a few, you've had a bumpy 92 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of the bumpy ride though, Lendy, what now when 93 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: when you tweeted out that you were going to come 94 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: on and do the podcast and I was excited, thank 95 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: you for that. Immediately the trolls, How do you enjoy 96 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: the trolls, Lendy? They were all over you busting your 97 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: balls on Twitter. You must enjoy that, right, That's that's 98 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: the players, that's what's all about. And you gotta you 99 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: gotta have the I mean, remember, I was voted as 100 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: the most hated player in the league five years ago 101 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: by the opposing team, and that's because I made their 102 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: job sucking hard. And like I told my my teammates, 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: I see you talking to the other team. We're fighting, okay, 104 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: we're playing for real fucking money. And and so when 105 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: we go on the road, here's what we do. We 106 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: go to their house, we take their money, and we 107 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: sucked their women. And that's how we roll, okay. And 108 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: so so yeah, I mean they're haters, but the bottom 109 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: line is they don't know me. They're nothing about me, okay, 110 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: And so I don't give a funk, and I just 111 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: tell the truth. So I roll. Letty, you mentioned being bulletproof. 112 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: There's a fascination going on right now here in Los 113 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: Angeles that most of the gun stores are out of ammunition. Um, 114 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: what kind of self protection do you have right now? Um? 115 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: All I have is, uh, well, my nickname is Nail, 116 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: So I got a ham rass about it. I've never 117 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: shot a gun before. Man. I you know, talking to 118 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: a guy that had one friend in high school and 119 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: the only reason I had one friend and said I 120 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: need somebody to play cats with, you know. Uh so so, Um, 121 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: the bottom line is, you know, you have all this, 122 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and then you have things like Ron 123 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: Darling this guy that you know wrote this book full 124 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: of lies and and you know, the press kind of 125 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, everyone brought into this this cancer bullshit, he says. 126 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: And uh, that's uh, that's gonna be the next virus, 127 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: so rond varmin virus. Letty, I gotta follow open that. 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about that anyway, Like I 129 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: did some some BS monologues on the radio about that 130 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: when that story came out and you sued Ron Darling, 131 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: and somebody put the video up, the raw feed from 132 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: that World Series game at Fenway, and I couldn't hear 133 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: anything that he had claimed that. You say, how was that? 134 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: But how's the lawsuit going though? Has that been settled? Well? 135 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: The figger than the lawsuits, though, Ben, I mean like 136 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: I haven't really went public and said this before. Um 137 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: but because your stars on the rise and uh um 138 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: and and in fact, I was talking to one of 139 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: your your main guys that I've heard yesterday. Uh not 140 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: not the soul as cool as hell, but but Ron Darling. 141 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Um Um, there's a lot more of that story than 142 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: than a defamation lawsuit. Okay, this's a it could be. 143 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: It could be the biggest story and since since since 144 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: the juice got loose, you know, really, and are you 145 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: oh yeah, you go back and look at the the coincidence, 146 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: I think not okay, And again, why would you take 147 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: me to make it? Might you want to make the 148 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: last motherfucker you want to make an enemy of his me? Okay? 149 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: Because and that's what he did. And so and now 150 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: there's there's I have, you know, documented attacks of what 151 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: really happened. And so someone someone's gonna pay and it's 152 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: gonna be me. But that's still going through the legal process, right, Lenny, 153 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: it's still yeah, legal, But like I said, this is 154 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: way bigger than legal process. This is about the integrity 155 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: of the game, which is which is the most important 156 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: thing that major eat baseball. So, um, somebody's gonna have 157 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: to do something here quick or like I said, um um, 158 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: this will make the scronavirus took like children's play. Lenny's 159 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: he you know, the EIGHTI six Mets a legendary team 160 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: of course, But is he like the guy? Obviously you 161 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: don't like him now, but is there anybody else that 162 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: you don't get along with on that team or every 163 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: everyone else? Still, you guys, we got along great. No 164 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: one likes him, You know we called him Mr P. 165 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: I nicknamed Mr P you know, Mr Perfect because you 166 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: know he went to Yale and and Press. I gave 167 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: him credit for getting away with that ship he had 168 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: for twelve years of less and the big leagues, I 169 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: mean they had not on the ball with his sucking hand. Uh. 170 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: But but but at the end of the day, Um, 171 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: when you fucking lie, okay, or we need to tell lies, 172 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: and then you have to start covering them lines up, Okay, 173 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: you know you start getting uh, doors started opening that 174 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: you never thought would open. And that's why I had 175 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: to tell the truth. A lot of people don't like 176 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: me for that, but guess what, I don't give a fuck. 177 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 1: That's how I roll. You know, I'm a man of 178 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: the people. Lenny, you talk about the game baseball real quick. 179 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: How clean do you think it is compared to the 180 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: early two of thousands or late nineties. That's a great question. 181 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Is it's cleaning to guess? There's definitely no drugs in baseball? Um, 182 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: meaning you have a French player that that's going to 183 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: be released or something that that might you know, amp 184 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Up and the US are raw, but overall they've they've 185 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: cleaned up the drugs are definitely out of baseball. So 186 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: what does baseball do? I mean, think about it. They 187 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: shattered the home running record for a single season, after 188 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: all the drugs are out of baseball. Well, how they 189 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: do that? Really simple? Major League Baseball touch the scenes 190 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: way down, okay, and major balls like like like super Bowls. 191 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: And again I'm not a physics guy, but I know 192 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: one thing. Waits to fly my private jet and I say, 193 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: my flops go down. That obviously so is the plane down. 194 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: So when them scenes are not up okay, and they're 195 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: down and they're flush, balls are going to travel, okay. 196 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: So and that's a major Baseball just created that. So 197 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: with that being said, then with with launch angles and 198 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: eggs of loss and everything that we talked about now, 199 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: with sever metrics and everything of major League baseball, if 200 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: Ben and I put you in in the commissioner's seat 201 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: and we said, hey, you are now Rob Manfred, how 202 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: would you execute the punishment to the Houston Astros for 203 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: this season? Another great question. First of all, that was 204 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: a fucking joke. Okay, I mean listen, I've played in 205 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: the Big league swove years, so let's let's let's play 206 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: this out here. We go ready, okay. So so I'm 207 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: in the battles box, okay, And so the pisture's shaking off, 208 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: shakes off. Then he says again he starts his wine. 209 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: That means the guy in center field or whatever the 210 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: fun they got out there has to has the number 211 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: one guest, right because you know, because they changed the 212 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: sequence probably every other ending, so he has to guess. Right. 213 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: Then they have to get it to the to the 214 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: guy who's got the trash cans and can imagine hitting 215 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: like we're gonna sucking trash. Can somebody hang the motherfucker's 216 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: meaning like, and the guy's gonna wind up? I mean 217 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: they it looked like man looks like it needs something 218 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: to do, and it's just it's way out of control. 219 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean, people am still in signs since since baseball 220 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: has has been around. I mean, but again, like people 221 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: think that that happens impossible. I played the game. It's impossible. 222 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: And you get crossed up one time. He crossed up 223 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: one time. As a hitter. You're you're gonna you're gonna say, 224 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: don't ever give me the signs signs again. You know, 225 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: I got a funny story speaking in Houston. It happened 226 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: in Houston. Remember Craig Digo, he was he came up 227 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: as a catcher. So so the first two at the 228 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: Weekend Series series, they're the first two games. I was 229 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: like gay free. And on Sunday he says to me, 230 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm leaving off. He says, since we can't get you 231 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: out when we don't, when we don't know what's coming, 232 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you every pitch that's coming, every attack. 233 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: And so now he's just kind of pregning with me. 234 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: He says, here kind of fast, far right down the middle, 235 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: and the picture throw the passot right down in the 236 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: middle boughtom mine. Long story short, he gave me every 237 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: pitch because he's fuck with my mind. I went over 238 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: for yeah, but but later you know, that's how mental 239 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: it is. The astro thing though, Lenny. In the World 240 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: Series video, you could see the setup like behind the 241 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: dugout where they were relaying the signs, and it was 242 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: like they weren't even hiding it. They were like they 243 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: were right in your face, like they had this whole 244 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: thing with the monitors and the whole deal. And they 245 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: were even people on the internet to think that al 246 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Tube was wearing a buzzer that I love. That gets 247 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: me hard man. Here that dodger the case five hundred 248 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to have umpires be followed around. Okay, So, 249 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: like I said, what Houston did spist get? That gets 250 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: me off man, because that's hard to do it. They 251 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: trust me, all right, Lenny, Let's move on to listen 252 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I gotta ask you a boy this. Now. 253 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who cares about all 254 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: of fame, but this is something that bothered me. You know, 255 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: back in the day in the in the peak of 256 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: the steroider, which you're familiar with. Of course you were 257 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: part of it. But uh, like you look at certain 258 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: guys are allowed in the Hall of Fame like Pledge Rodriguez, 259 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Mike Piazza, guys that are suspected of using p d s, 260 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: and then other guys like Bonds and Clemens are black 261 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: from the Hall of Fame. How do you feel about 262 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: that money? That's not funny? Then I know you're no 263 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: wonder You're you're rating it so high, dude, you you 264 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: picked up you pick an area that I literally got 265 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: escorted out by the by the Hall of Fame police 266 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: because I went in there, and I wanted to know. 267 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I said, how are the three best players in the 268 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: history of baseball not in the Hall of Fame? I said, like, 269 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: what's the fucking threshold? What makes somebody bad enough not 270 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame? So is it 271 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: okay to be your wife? Is it okay to take 272 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: instead of me? What makes somebody bad enough? So I 273 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: went off on them, I captain. They went as to 274 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: me because they don't have an after and like you 275 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: said that, everybody took in set. It means in the 276 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: in the seventies, and that's a fact, undisputed. Instead of 277 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: means are much more performance enhancing them than steroids because 278 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: they get you up and you're playing every night and 279 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: a rigorous schedule. Um um. But then when you combine 280 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: the two like I did, then you have gears like 281 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: I have. Never mind um anyway. But the bottom line 282 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: is is the Hall of Fame is a mess. Because look, 283 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: if they want to have a good guy, a hall 284 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: of Fame for the good guys, then that's fine, you know, 285 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: but the Hall of Fame is supposed to be at 286 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: least I believe this is what you do on the field. 287 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if you take Bond is the first ten 288 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: years where you played Pittsburgh, Okay, until I showed him 289 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: how to shoot steroids, And I take credit for that. 290 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: We'll get back to that later. But the bottom line 291 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: is their fifth best overall. Okay, Roger Clemens. I mean, 292 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: this is a guy that that beats the beds by 293 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: the way, and that's impossible to do. Trust me, I 294 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: know all about that, Okay, And so I couldn't get 295 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: an answer from because they don't have an answer. So 296 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm something's got to change there. Be sure 297 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays 298 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports 299 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: Radio and the I Heart Radio app Lanny. What about 300 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: the drug usage itself with Bonds? Like, like, what what 301 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: exactly did you help him with that? You mentioned the steroids, 302 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: but what exactly was he taken? I mean, I know 303 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: there's a concoction of a couple of different things, but 304 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: what wasn't the cocktail? Yeah, we'll see Bonds. I gotta 305 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: give him credit. See so remember in Christcoe candlestick Um 306 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: you had to walk you know, you came out of 307 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: like the clubhouse, who came out on right field had 308 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: and walked. That's the batting case. So I'd always see 309 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: you know him and in Dusty Baker and Dusty Baker 310 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: as cool as fuck. Come I any manager wears wrist fans. 311 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: You gotta love that. Um. But but um Bonds, you'd 312 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: always say, you know, because you know, I knew him 313 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: from from before and and and I'd always say to them. 314 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: He'd always say to me, do like, how how are 315 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: you doing this? Man? Like? How are you? How are 316 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: you saying this throng? I told him. I told him 317 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: the whole story. You know, um objected. They're born, you know, 318 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of a chest 319 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: officeron and some some sesston and you're on your way 320 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: rock and roll, you know, and you walk walking into 321 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: that box that you got a fifteen inch cock man. 322 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: And and the bottom line is the disciplined Bonds had 323 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: to wait. Okay. And and I mean, if you think 324 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: about the numbers of this idea, steroids are a note steroids. Okay, 325 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: I led the league and walks two years, two separate years. 326 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: One time I had a hundred twenty or something. One 327 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: time I have something like that. This motherfucker watched two 328 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: hundred eighty seven times when you're eighty intense seven or 329 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: seven or eight intensil. Those are little league numbers, man. 330 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the bottom line is, if you wanted to 331 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: find Barry Bonds, you can do two ways. Barry Bonds 332 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: the best players to ever put on a baseball uniform. 333 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds the biggest dick they ever put on a 334 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: baseball uniform. Be sure to catch live editions of The 335 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Lenny, 336 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: when who inspired you to do the steroids? Like? How 337 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: at what point? I know you probably talked about in 338 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: the past, but I don't. I have not heard it. 339 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: So like, did somebody advise you some other player and 340 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: tell you, hey, here's how you do it? Or did 341 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: you learn it on your own? Another A great question. 342 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: Here's what't have them? Davy Johnson, manager of the mess 343 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: them dumb. That's overrated, overrated, under under daving manager in 344 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: the history of baseball. Um he um. I finally got traded. 345 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: I was in We're playing the Phillies and I'm writing 346 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: at I was stations because he can't fortune of me, 347 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: and I said, listen, man, I gotta play. I mean, 348 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: I can't just to tune bullshit. So so after my 349 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: second at that, he says, you're done. Said what fluck? 350 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: What fuck you that? I'm not done? He said, no, 351 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: you're done. You're done. So I go up in the 352 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: clubhouse and and and and I get in uh in there, 353 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: and the great Harry Collis is unbelievable. I hear him 354 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: say a lot of actions. They do that, and then 355 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: it was initials or l D. I said, I just 356 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: got fucking traded, man. So I'm sitting in my cubby 357 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: hole and after the game and wincas half on the shoulder. 358 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: I get it. And and they said baby wants to 359 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: see in his office. And so there's Joel McIlvaine in 360 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: there too, you know the Newists, you know newistum he was. 361 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: He was actually pretty cool dude. So Davy Johnson just says, listen, 362 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: we want to thank you for helping us win a 363 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: world series. We just traded you to the Phidelphia affilities. 364 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: I said, wait, the team and the other dug out, 365 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: what do I meet him at home play? What happens? 366 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: So any long story short, So I get there and 367 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: Lee Thomas as a general manager and he's an awesome guy. 368 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: And you know, he says, you're gonna leave up every day. 369 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: So I come out of the gates. I remember, I'm 370 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: only five mile okay, sixty then and I come out 371 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: the gates. I'm raaking. I'm in three. And the bottom 372 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: line is I physically did not have the stamina and 373 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: and and the durability to the last day in, day 374 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: out over the ruling schedule. So I'm timbered. Okay, I 375 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: sell far in eighty nine. But Lee Thomas told me 376 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: after the season, he says, listen, that was your first year. 377 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: You know perst time playing every day. You're gonna lead up. 378 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you. You're gonna lead off every night. 379 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: You have to live the lineup. So now I know 380 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: es basically determine my life. I either got to get 381 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: a real job. I'm gonna make a lot of money. 382 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: So I went too. I was living in Mississippi at 383 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: the time. People who lived there actually and and I 384 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: was living in Mississippi. I went to the library and 385 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: I looked up this is I looked up to say 386 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. I found he was the sprinter, the runner 387 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: who got caught with WINNI v and so what I 388 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: did is then I went to the yell page. It's so, 389 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: I said to myself, like, I don't need something to 390 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: help me play baseball. I can do that. I need 391 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: something to help me last I stay strong enough to 392 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: last seven months. It is seven months, you know, we 393 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: had spring training and six months. So I found some 394 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: hillbilly doctor in the yello pages. I called him up, 395 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: and I went in there and I explained this what 396 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: I explained to you. I said, listen, I chance to 397 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: make millions of dollars. I said, I need something that's 398 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: gonna keep me strong and keep me durable. So I 399 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: can laugh. I'm a little guy, and said, I run 400 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: around a lot. And I said, by the way, I 401 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: didn't even know what he's gonna give me. So he 402 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: writes the prescription for me. He said, go to write 403 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: eight and filled out, and he gets filled and come back. 404 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: I'll show you how to do it. So I still 405 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. So it turns out a 406 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: deca durable and I wait a wait in line A right. 407 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: Remember it wasn't illegal then, was the way A head 408 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: of curved and and I used to my prescription filled 409 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: and little vials. I walked back to his office. He's 410 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: got a fucking harpoon waiting for me. Okay, he puts 411 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: it in my ass. I hire a trainer. I worked 412 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: my ass up in the gym. I showed up a 413 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: spring training Reggie Hammond did in that bar in forty 414 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: eight hours. A new sheriff in town, motherfucker's and any 415 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: and ain't Reggie Hammond's. Lenny fucking Dikestro. So I came 416 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: in like a Greek statue with one and and you know, 417 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: true incidence I had that year. I'm on the sub 418 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated hit four in June. I think, not okay, 419 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: they work and and I told Major League Baseball their 420 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: problem wasn't the drugs. It was steroids because because they 421 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: help you make more money at any time moneys involved, 422 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: people make bad decisions, okay, or decisions that they wouldn't 423 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: normally make, okay. And so that's what happened. What were 424 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: you gonna do. Let the guy next to you take 425 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: him and and and let him. Um you say, I'm 426 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: a good guy, I'm not gonna do it. So you 427 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: get fired and he makes thirty million dollars. So basically 428 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: everybody was taken when we were taking them, but but 429 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: now they're they're all off them now. Well, Lenny, what 430 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: about this though, because you mentioned the off season conditioning, 431 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: but the seven months you got a hundred sixty two 432 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: games spring training and possibly postseason. So what was your 433 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: daily regiment because were you were you stacking it with 434 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: anything else? Like were you taking any human growth hormone 435 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: or or protein? Like what was your diet and your exercise? Yeah, 436 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: I imagine your girls. I was a chemist, bro. I mean, 437 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence that that my highest average in 438 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: all the stadiums was Houston because he remember, I knew 439 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: the game was never going to be there's every rain delades, see, 440 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: so you know when when when when you're on the ship. 441 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: So the regiment was this, Okay, I'd wake up or 442 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: maybe come to like about twelve o'clock, okay, And the 443 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: first thing I do is whoever was next to me? 444 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: I dropped a thirty texture dream Adam. I wasn't in 445 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: that it was a time release of Dexter three. And 446 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: then I'm taking another one about I don't know five 447 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: for VP, and then I take the bill Heart's Orange, 448 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: going is the Kickers? Okay? And on the steroid part. 449 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: You know, I was um um, I was doing that, 450 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: you know weekly. That's um. I really loaded up in 451 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: had a year that that nobody's really had before. But 452 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: but that was my regiment. And and am I telling 453 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: kids to do that? No? And am I am? I? Am? 454 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: I proud of what I did on the field. Yeah, 455 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: what I do, It's what I do it the same way. Yeah, 456 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: you know why because I had to. I had to. 457 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: If I didn't do that, I would have had to 458 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: take a you know, get a real job and and 459 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: and you know, take orders from somebody and and live 460 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: with the life that people live out there. And that 461 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: is the husband gets up, he goes to his job 462 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: of the apes. It's back in his car, home to 463 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: his miserable wife, eats of fitty food. They don't fuck 464 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: gets up in the morning, they do it again. I 465 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: can't wait. Yeah, where do I sign up? Fuck that? Man? Well, 466 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: so with that being said, then Lenny, can you take 467 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: us through the darkest moment of your professional career when 468 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: it was in the field to play or offseason activity. 469 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: Another great question, man. You guys have asked some great questions. 470 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: What if we get into fussy But I don't think 471 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: you have enough time for that. Um. But anyways, the 472 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: darkest moment was okay, I'm leading off the All Star game, okay, 473 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: um against Randy Johnson, the Creature, And somehow I battled 474 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: my ass off and work a walk, and you know, 475 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: Felipe Lose the manager at the time, and and he says, listen, 476 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: the only sign the only thing we're doing his own signs. 477 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: But you're running three one, three two, And so I 478 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: was something out bad. I don't get a walk. First 479 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: first a bad painting plane in Texas, so um and 480 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: Bonds sent to the next guy makes it out and 481 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: then Bond ticks three one. I looked at the first 482 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: basebokes my running. He says, yeah, so I don't want 483 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: to pick off, so you know, I go. Bond takes 484 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: a fucking cock shot. Pedro Rie starts a rocket down. 485 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: The ball was waiting for me, talking about the jog 486 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: of shame. And then we got in the outfield and 487 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: I said the Bonds, I said, you know what, motherfucker, 488 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: instead of this pitching around you, I'm gonna tell my 489 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: pitchers I'll throw you in the fucking neck, you sucking dick, 490 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, because you hung out to dry you see, 491 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: and and um, what happened there is the darkest moment 492 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: that wasn't it? That was a black moment, the darkest moment. 493 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: And I don't think I've ever told anybody. This was 494 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: when using you only get like a couple of thats 495 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: and they all start getting because I played the other guys, 496 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: I actually wanted to come out of the All Star 497 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Game because I was on so many pills and I 498 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: was so fucked up at that time, and you know, 499 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: I was having to take thirty pain pills a night. 500 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: And and I remember when the game ended up, what happened. 501 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: I think I think it might played the whole game, 502 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, And I didn't even want to play, which 503 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: is crazy because that's what I loved it. But it 504 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: was all because of the drugs. And I got in 505 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: my limousine and I laid down on my limousine right 506 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: in the parking lot of Texas, and I said to myself, Wow, 507 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: is this hit man? This really is? I said, So 508 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: what I did after that is I went to Israel 509 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: and I did this special treatment and have them taken 510 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: an an opiated since um um, because you know, we 511 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: have an opiate epidemic out there. But that's how bad 512 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: it was. And it was that bad and that's when 513 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: when the Swiss came on, you know, So that was 514 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: pretty dark and sad actually, you know, yeah, that's wild, Lenny. 515 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 1: I want to go back the Howard Stern, the famous 516 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: Howard Stern interview did a couple of years ago. How 517 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: did that change your your life? That was legendary, That 518 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: was internet fame. You were talking about your amazing skills 519 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: in the Yeah, it was still amazing. I mean, I'm 520 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm an artist, bro. I mean see, I thought 521 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: God put me on the earth to entertain people on 522 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: the baseball field because I was actually pretty good at it, 523 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: but that wasn't my calling. And I realized that he 524 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: put me on earth to help women. You see, that's 525 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: what I do. I'm a giver. I give back and 526 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: so um is it truth? You know? I mean, come on, dude, 527 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: who who who else? Who else gets their keeth taking 528 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: out to do their artwork? Okay, that's somebody dedicated to 529 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: the subfession, you know what I mean? Absolutely? But the women, 530 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: what's it like you're you're getting up there in age now, 531 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: is that you're still getting the younger women letting everything 532 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: good with that? Oh yeah, got a couple of part 533 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: next store. Actually, um, but but the bottom liners, it's 534 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: a deal. I mean, I can't even watch the fucking 535 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: game anymore. If I watched the game, like, there's another 536 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: one of my fucking kids. I mean, but but but 537 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: now that I'm older, like and I have to take 538 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: a dick pill, I have to do this, have to 539 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: do that. I can't come. And if I do come, 540 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: it's like sucking dust, you know, sucking somebody that think 541 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: a murders going on. So I'm basically at the point 542 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: of now just hearing these words, and I'm good. When 543 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: I hear these words, I can't believe I'm doing this. 544 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm sucking straight, you know what I mean. It's a 545 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: thrill to kill. I mean, I've made so many of 546 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: your posit it's just like like that's not even the 547 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: deal anymore, you know what I mean. But let don 548 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You're gi you give back to 549 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: to the female. I love that line. You go ahead. 550 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: That's right, brother, that's right. I'm giver man. I gave 551 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: back the second I gave back to my team. I 552 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: took a lot of pitches, played the game, right, you know, 553 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: and when the game went When the game went in, 554 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: I'd always go. First thing I do is be line 555 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: right to my club, my locker, and I sit down, 556 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: and that's myself if I were a fan, but dating 557 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: lineing to watch me play the night as I judge 558 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: myself every night and and every night, with the exception 559 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: of one night, the answer was always yes, even if 560 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: I took it over for well, Lenny, outside of the 561 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: game of baseball, you mentioned taking your hacks, So can 562 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: you give us like not a typical night, but one 563 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: of those nights it doesn't matter the city, the country, Like, 564 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: how would you get yourself juiced up no pun intended, 565 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: but juiced up for a night when you had an 566 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: itch where it's like you're out party. Yah, it was 567 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: another great question. Well, you guys are on point. So 568 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: what I did is is again, I've always been to 569 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: have the curve. Okay, I mean you know I was 570 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: I've always you know, kind of been somebody the kind 571 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: of of the curve when I had to because you know, 572 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: I was a little guy and I do I think. 573 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: So what I did is is I didn't say at 574 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: the team hotel. Okay, this is when I was at 575 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: the Philly You know, I was the Metsos young you 576 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: guys just did you know, glad to be there. But 577 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: when I to the Phillies, you know, I never stayed 578 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: the team hotel one one none season I I went, 579 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, starting ninety, I had my boys take out 580 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: the Presidential Suite as the best hotel in the city. 581 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: And I'd have them bring the bar to the suite 582 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: because I got hit by a lot of pisces and 583 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: not that many, Like you're a bar fucking trying to 584 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: scream and talk and you're wasting time. And see, we 585 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: can buy a lot of things with our money, but 586 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: we can't buy times. So what I would do is 587 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: have my boys get to the town and and you 588 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: have everything set up so when the game went out, 589 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: be over. Everything was waiting for him. Okay, that's called 590 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: robes and room service, my friends. Okay. And the only difference, 591 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: the only town that was the worst town on the 592 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: circuit was Dispute, Pittsburgh. So I told my guys and said, 593 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: you've done motherfucker's but the coal miners lads here, what 594 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: you need to do is we're in a couple of youth. 595 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: All is back I'm up to the University of pitt 596 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: and say all fucking alcohols free and drugs free, come 597 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: out of this party. And the next thing I know, 598 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh went from the worst of the best. You know, 599 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: that's how we were. Hold man, what about what about 600 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: in your offseason? Though? Like if you went to Europe 601 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: or Asia? Like, is there any particular city or country 602 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: that was your favorite that I mean you would. Man, 603 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: he hasn't really hit me good with these questions. And 604 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: menacein is the one thing that I'm really not proud of. 605 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: But it was actually a genius. I mean it was 606 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: stuck in a genius um, you know. And and so look, 607 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm not proud of where I lived. I mean I 608 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: had a great wife, and but like I mean, I 609 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: couldn't like, you know, I was used to trap, being 610 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: on the move, so the obviously didn't come and I'd 611 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: get forward. And so the first way I started, I 612 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: go to New York. That's just in Philly, and I said, 613 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: I've seen a shrink and you know, buy a couple 614 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: of nights and be able to do my thing, and 615 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: that shrink out. The way we're talking about rip offs. 616 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: All you want to do is hear my pussy stories unbelievable. 617 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: But then I said, this is something. Glad you better 618 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: because I had my own plane that I the Gulf Stream. 619 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: So so what I did is I came up with 620 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: a story. Hey, listen, there's a new rehab in in Paris. Okay, 621 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: I want to try this out, and you know, seems 622 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: I can get better. And the bottom line, it was 623 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: so genius. I have one of my one of my 624 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: one of my boys, or or the people I thought 625 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: were my friend, uh, go pay for it. And and 626 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: so you know, everyone thought I was doing there. But 627 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: the bottom line is I bought thirty days of fucking 628 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: party and dude flying around and sucking in my jet 629 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: in Europe. In Europe from my Carlo to fucking Italy. 630 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: Let's do this way. There's a lot of people have 631 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: had more money and got more money than me, but 632 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: nobody knew how to party like me. Okay, and you 633 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: can believe that. Well, yeah, the whole eighties six minutes. 634 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: By the way, I hit six country. So you know, 635 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 636 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 637 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app. 638 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: Search f s are to listen live all right, Lenny, 639 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you now, if you were playing today. 640 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: Now it's changed a lot since you were playing, because 641 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: now everything's on social media. It seems like guys are 642 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: chasing the ladies on Instagram and that's the playground. Like, 643 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: how would you do if you were playing for the 644 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: Mets of the Phillies today with with the ladies? Would 645 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: you do the same You couldn't do it the same way, right, 646 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: you have to change your game up a little bit. Yeah, yeah, 647 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: you do. So. I have already helped help players do this. 648 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: So so what happens is players, you know, the David 649 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: Day'll get caught. They don't They don't know how to 650 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, you gotta know how to maneuver. 651 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like the first thing you got to learn it. 652 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: You didn't bring anything home to the life. Okay. So, 653 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: and I sweet this out the other day about you know, again, 654 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: being ahead of the curve. I would take five a 655 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: moxas shone every day, uh way over the prescribed do 656 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: so you're supposed to take them every way, and but 657 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: for me, it was like having a snack run into 658 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: my fucking cock. Okay, I mean, that's sucking genius. I 659 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: built like a moat around my fucking cock. Okay, so so, 660 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: But but what I'm saying is when when when you 661 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: let me ask that question, what would I do today? 662 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: What I did do is so these players they always 663 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: get a cocks. You know how to do it? I said, Look, 664 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna create a real estafe fund. Okay, and you 665 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: can assist. You know, if you want to get five okay, 666 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: put it in there, and that's your pussy money. Okay, 667 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: y as how the curve again? Now they don't have 668 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: to keep driving that what credit card should I use? 669 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: But this that you get, you know, to how big 670 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: you want to go and what kind of ammunition and 671 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: what kind of you know, um partner or whatever they are. Um. 672 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: But that's how you do it. See is that genius again? 673 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: Fucking hey man? Oh man, this is a good ship here, man, 674 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: this is a real life ship quality information. You are 675 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: educating information. That's what I'm about. You were again, Yeah, man, 676 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: the most valuable commodity I know of his information. And 677 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm giving up some information today and these fucking players 678 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: got to pick it up and learn from it. The 679 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: sure the funk haven't learned from the way you're supposed 680 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: to play baseball, guarantee that, Lenny, Are you a political guy, 681 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: like are you Are you fascinated by the either love 682 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: or hate of President Trump? Yeah? Yeah, I know Trump 683 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: pretty good man. And uh it's amazing how I don't 684 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: know one woman that might say he can't even say 685 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: rights and can't even I mean, for some reason, they 686 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: all they all hate. But I think Trumps sucking. I 687 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: think Trump sountar fucking good job. He's a Trump Trumps fucking. 688 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: He's no pressy man. You know you're hearing all these 689 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: conspiracy things out there about about what's going on with 690 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: this with with you know, people being getting ready to 691 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: be arrested and supposed to Tom Hanks and Ellen de 692 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: Generes and all this crazy ship. But yeah, I know 693 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: Trump Trump, And I remember Trump invited me to his, 694 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: uh the US Open. He had a suite. He bribed 695 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: me there to to watch the US Open finals. And 696 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: I walked in there and there was Anny Kravitz and 697 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: there was p Diddy or Pddy what I don't know 698 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: what his name is now or something like that, whatever. 699 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: Both of them were cool as ship. So's that's three 700 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: and then here comes into Trump walks in. He knows 701 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: everything about us, he took us right night. He was calm. 702 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy, the guy he's set a photographing 703 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 1: you many. I don't think he's ever had a drink 704 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: in his life. And so, you know, the whole campaign, 705 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: like like when I heard he was winning because I 706 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: didn't want to watch it because I couldn't imagine. That's 707 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: fucking bit chilly. We Clinton me in there, how to 708 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: move to second Filalia? Okay, but but but Trump, Trump's 709 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: a Trump's a politician, but he's also got some brass balls. 710 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: So I mean, i'm he's he's the best guy. We 711 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: guy right now. I don't know about how you guys feel, 712 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: but I mean he's done pretty good so far. Now. 713 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: He was a Yankee fan, right, did you guys ever 714 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: hang on party together? I mean you mentioned the U 715 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: S open? But how well did you know Trump? Like? 716 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: Did you you guys? Yeah? I mean I didn't not party. 717 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: He invited me to mar Largo a couple of times, 718 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, I mean just we have 719 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: we had some conversations, but I remember when he invited 720 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: me to mar Largo. Man and by the way, I've 721 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: never been a guy. Um, I've never funked around with 722 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 1: like wives or I've always had my own rules or friends, 723 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: girls or you know, just always ends bad. But when 724 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: I saw that sucking Marla Maples man and man, wow, 725 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: what a fucking queen. And like I did a double take. Man, 726 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think she had a real rack okay 727 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: from Georgia. But I think he had a dish here 728 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think he threw her under the bus. 729 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: And uh but but yeah, so we didn't know, let 730 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 1: me say, hang out, you didn't really hang out with Trump, 731 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: but he was a politician then, you know, and then 732 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: and and to to the to the to the highest level. 733 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: And and like I said, I mean the thought of 734 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, by the way, who was a song cald killer. Okay, 735 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: I thought of that dish being in the fucking White House. 736 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Fuck. I mean, did you imagine there 737 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: is a guy up there? Think I think that motherfucker? Alright, 738 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: let me, let me let me follow up. And I 739 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: know what Trump since he became president, he is uh, 740 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: he still talks to Don King and some other people 741 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: as he talked to you. Would he would you consider 742 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: if he offered a job on some panel in Washington, 743 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 1: some BS sports panel, would you would you take it? Lenny? 744 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: I got something better than that. I'm gonna get parted 745 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: by Tom really fucking hey, and I also want to 746 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: get pardoned by the state of California for this bullshit 747 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: uh thing they came up with. So so yeah, yeah, 748 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: Lenny explained to me, how how does it work? Like you, 749 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 1: you obviously had some legal jeopardy and some problems, but like, 750 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: do you concoct has he contacted you? You've obviously reached 751 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: out to him. How's this process work? If you want 752 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: to I have no idea to educate me on what 753 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: the parting thing out works. You're a parting days about 754 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: the crazy crying and charging when they hit me for 755 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: bankruptcy fraud when I sold a piece of furns over 756 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars, which knows was nothing to do with bankruptcy. 757 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 1: Thought it was me catching some very powerful people doing 758 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: some very bad thing JP Morgan. But you can google 759 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: it right now and you say say, let you like 760 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: to sue JP Morgan, and it'll say in Google, say 761 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: when you're actually taking one for a hundred million. So 762 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 1: I caught JP Morgan, I caught a judge, I caught 763 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: six lawyers and a bunch of other people and trustees, 764 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: um all doing some very very um illegal things and 765 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: went after him. And what happened by doing that as 766 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: this big organization called the federal government, um shoot me up, 767 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: like and when they scoot me up, it's not just 768 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: a normal scoop up. Man. You would have thought they 769 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,919 Speaker 1: were fucking kept during Osama bin Laden. Dude, motherfucker's coming 770 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: out of trees. And I didn't know what was going on, 771 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: and so maybe they put them in the cooler and 772 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: they left me in the cool was no bail, okay, 773 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: with no crime, and I was in the dail for 774 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: seven days nobody knew who I was. I mean, I 775 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: think we have this thing called the constitutions, aren't we 776 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: where they can't keep you in there unless they start 777 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,919 Speaker 1: you with a crime, unless you free like after forty 778 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: eight hours. But but um, heywaits, I'm not whining. I'm not. 779 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, here to bitch about that. That's 780 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: just the truth, call our truth. But but you know, 781 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: but yeah, so so yeah, I don't have to get 782 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: get pardoned by Trump because um, that whole story. You know, 783 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: it'll get out there. Lenny, your fifty seven now right 784 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: with mileage bro with milege. And that's why I wanted 785 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 1: to ask you how the fund did you get to forty? Well, 786 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: it's all about number one. It's all about see because 787 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: it was prescription. See that's okay. See a doctor prescribed that, Tommy. 788 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: You see. Um, Now the Keith Richards and stuff like that, 789 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: Well the Keief presure is that that's that's a legendary 790 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: now and natural American leg That was our code name 791 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: for blow, you know, because you know, chief vists for 792 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: the wronging suns. He looks like the line of blow. 793 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: So like you're around the band case, you can't say 794 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: who's got the blow. So it was like, hey, it's 795 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,479 Speaker 1: Richards in the house. And but I was never wanted 796 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: to do much of that, you know, maybe wat the 797 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: chicks chair or something like that. Um um, So I 798 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: was more more into a I didn't like the street drug. 799 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: That was more into the described the approved you can 800 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 1: see that was okay, even though I took maybe more 801 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: than it was like I was supposed to. Um, I 802 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: did that five guys on the payroll going to the 803 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: doctor's so but that's what you gotta do. I did 804 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: what I had to do. Man, is now my is 805 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: now the eliest drug in the world to me. And 806 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 1: and that's obviously the opius meaning and unless say opiates um, 807 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, opiates surpain kills, anything that has to do 808 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: with with if you want to opiates are are um. 809 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 1: The bottom line is is if you're in the same 810 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: car going down the same road with the same destination, 811 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: if you get trapped in that opiate world meaning and 812 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: by the way, on that road, there's no there's no 813 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: you can't say you know what I feel like ship 814 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,760 Speaker 1: I want yah, No, no, motherfucker, you're gonna pay because 815 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm at the end of that road. It's called dead end, okay, 816 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: And you're gonna get there, and you want to get 817 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: there faster. Take Carolin, we want to get the sower. 818 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: Take back here. So remember nine, So all my teenmates 819 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: would be drinking like fifteen years after a game and 820 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: I just couldn't do what. I was a leadoft there 821 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: and I told the trainer, I said, listen, then I can't. 822 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: I had surgeries and I was playing every night, we 823 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: were dominating, and I said, there's gotta be something you 824 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: give me. So it gives me one little white bill 825 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: what's happened to be a Viking and five millground pill 826 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: which I put my stuck in cereal, you know. After that, 827 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: But but but but I took that one pill, had 828 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: one drink and stuck to show it up man, And 829 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: I said that. I said, I sucking beat these motherfuckers again. 830 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: I reinvented the wheel. I found the combination of the recipe. Yeah, 831 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: now go back to that store we talked about in 832 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: the All Star game. Okay, And so what happens is 833 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: with opiates. You you know again you crossed and imagine 834 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 1: there's an imaginary line. It's different for everybody. But once 835 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: you become dependent on them and you're endorp and stopping 836 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: and shut down and you're solely dependant on the opiate, 837 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: she gets the opiate withdrawal that is so bad. And 838 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 1: unless you've been through it, unless someone has been through it, 839 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: there's you know, explaining the pain. I'm not a pussy either, Okay. 840 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: I could not get off those motherfucker's. That's why I 841 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: end up going to Israel heet Off. I was the 842 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: second person in the world to do do a treatment 843 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: called rapid detox. But but and you know, I haven't 844 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: touched one since because you know, like I said, and 845 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: then we haven't opiate epidemic out there. Anybody out there 846 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 1: taking opiates get shopped right now because it end's sucking bad. 847 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: Trust me, it doesn't end good. I hear you. Uh, Lenny, 848 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: We're up against it. As they said, I want to 849 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: have you on again though, you're I'm fascinated and I 850 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: wanted to have you on a couple of years ago. 851 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: I want you to know my guy Eddie, who I 852 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: do the radio show with. He he's like afraid of 853 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,919 Speaker 1: He's scared of you. And I was like, you can't 854 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 1: be afraid of Letty Letty. You're You're not gonna or 855 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: a late night show, right, yeah, we do the overnight show. Yeah, yeah, 856 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: that's right what I'm peaking too. So I'm sucking. It's 857 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 1: perfect exactly. I don't need to plug, Lenny. We gotta 858 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: get you like a reality show or something. Money. We 859 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: gotta get you something. Yeah, man. The only thing, the 860 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: only thing the prod is is that you know, the 861 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 1: bottom line is is you know everybody out there is 862 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: a major panic right now with a coronavirus and and 863 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: for good reason, because there's so much unsurety. But it 864 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: will pass. Okay, I mean we're gonna go on a recession, 865 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna there's gonna be about problems, but time will pass. 866 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 1: And just remember that that um, every day above ground 867 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: is a good fucking day. Okay, that's sorry, look at 868 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: life okay, so so so it will pass. But the 869 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,240 Speaker 1: panic is out there and it's getting worse and wor similars. 870 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: But the reality is that that you're gonna be Okay, 871 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: you hating like nails. You stick with nails seven best 872 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,359 Speaker 1: time to get ahold of you? Guys? Know that right? 873 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: You want to call me? Have me on again? He 874 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: called me that my number. I'm ready, awesome, Hey, let 875 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: me be good man, be healthy. Thank you sir, you 876 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 1: got now. I enjoy it. Thank you guys a lot. 877 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: Thanks Lenny. All right,