WEBVTT - Unfuzzing Memories (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bill and Juliana the Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, welcome to Bill and Juliana the Podcast. So

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday was a very very interesting episode that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people were talking about. Basically, I talked about my

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<v Speaker 2>ex Jerry O'Connell, who talked about me last week, and

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<v Speaker 2>we decided there was so much to talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>we had to do a part two. So welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>Part two of unfuzzing my ex's memory. So joining me

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<v Speaker 2>Bill of course, awesome husband, yay love. This was actually

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<v Speaker 2>his idea to do this podcast, by the way. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's how cool my husband is because he's so funny

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<v Speaker 2>and having fun with us, and then all my good

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriends are here and we're all going to break it down.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wish it had been handled differently, that's all.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wish that he hadn't made your relationship sound

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<v Speaker 4>so casual last week.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like dismiss it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was all up.

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<v Speaker 4>How long were you together for.

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<v Speaker 2>A year and a half And we were together a

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<v Speaker 2>year and a half And it was like, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we were together year and a half. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a million red carpets, like a million everything you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a million dinners, a million trips, and you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was just so yes to hear it like casual

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely you know that's not cool, right because it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like that, But at this cycle at I love

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<v Speaker 2>the best friend, but I don't care anymore. Like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. But if I'm going to tell you no, Bill, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean by what I mean by saying that's

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<v Speaker 2>not cool, it's like he shouldn't speak about Zucashua. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest, I really don't care how he ever

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<v Speaker 2>talks about it ever again because it was so long

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<v Speaker 2>ago and we're so over it. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was in the moment, that wasn't cool in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, Like if I'm going back to the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, that was terrible that he dealt with it

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<v Speaker 2>the way and he actually admitted a terrible boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>That takes a lot. I gotta be on.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he owned up to it, he owned his mistake. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to move on, man.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, well, it was kind of like a second

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<v Speaker 4>degree humiliation last week when he makes it sound like

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<v Speaker 4>you're writing about this fake relationship in your memoir. But

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<v Speaker 4>it was a real relationship, and he makes it sound

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<v Speaker 4>like it was not, and you're like, weird to have

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<v Speaker 4>written about.

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<v Speaker 3>It, also sounding crazy that you showed up to his condo.

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<v Speaker 2>He made you sound right, He made you sound crazy, right.

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<v Speaker 3>When any girl would have literally done the exact Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you would go to your boyfriend's condo and even

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<v Speaker 2>in a fit of rage.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, like note to Jerry next time, living a building

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<v Speaker 5>with a doorman. Yes, and he's on the doorman's on

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<v Speaker 5>the side payroll. He can handle anything you need handled it.

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<v Speaker 5>Jerry's out of town today, hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Spend the extra money. You were a major movie star,

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<v Speaker 1>you had plenty of dough.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you know because people have asked even

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<v Speaker 2>since this all came out, right, like the clips of

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<v Speaker 2>him came out, and then I did my Instagram rebuttal

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<v Speaker 2>right where I talked about it, and then people in

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<v Speaker 2>my comments there were people who were like, well, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you expect you wrote about it in a book.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, it was my memoir. I wrote about

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<v Speaker 2>a lot in my memoir. I also wrote about my

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<v Speaker 2>journey with breast cancer and fertility, like a yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a memoir. I wrote about everything that's happened to me

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<v Speaker 2>until you know, till that age that I wrote the memoir.

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<v Speaker 2>So of course I wrote about this because it was

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<v Speaker 2>a very significant event in my life, and so yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote about it with details in the memoir. When

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<v Speaker 2>we're dating someone and this sort of thing happens, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard, especially when it's a serious relationship. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>not happy, if you want to date someone else, let

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<v Speaker 2>the person you're dating be the first to know. Please,

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm saying, Like, had he just told me,

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<v Speaker 2>had he just called me and not made me go

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<v Speaker 2>down this crazy rabbit hole first of all the first

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<v Speaker 2>time with paparazzi pictures, and then the second time just

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<v Speaker 2>like completely not taking one phone call, ignoring me, not

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<v Speaker 2>writing me back, and then breaking up with me from

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<v Speaker 2>a balcony.

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<v Speaker 7>And he didn't even like give you a reason when

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<v Speaker 7>he did break up with you, Like, I think that's

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<v Speaker 7>like the hottest thing with like say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he didn't even give.

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<v Speaker 7>You a raisin hard Sorry, Yeah, Like you didn't get

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<v Speaker 7>any clothes, You're out of that. I'm sure you went

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<v Speaker 7>in your head for the longest time being Like if

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<v Speaker 7>I did like, was it because I did this all

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<v Speaker 7>that and it had nothing to do with you but

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<v Speaker 7>everything to do with probably him. Yes, and that's really hard,

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<v Speaker 7>like as a young woman to go through.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it is hard, you know, Listen. A big

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<v Speaker 2>part of why I wanted to do this is, first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, if I still had feelings for him, I

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<v Speaker 2>would never do this podcast. It would be so weird, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's been.

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<v Speaker 5>You.

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<v Speaker 1>No, why is it weird We're talking about your old boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny you're was your idea to do this pot?

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Ransick was literally the one who was. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>instead of you commenting, I just do the pot. We

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<v Speaker 2>should just talk about on the podcast. But he knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love Bill so much. I'm madly in love

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<v Speaker 2>with Bill, and Bill.

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<v Speaker 5>Think Ramammanuel once said you never waste a good crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>But Bill, Bill also, you would never have handled it

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<v Speaker 2>like that, like when you had girlfriends and you were

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<v Speaker 2>over them.

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<v Speaker 5>I think everyone makes mistakes, though, and I think men

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<v Speaker 5>mature slower than women, as we know, so I think, Listen,

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<v Speaker 5>was I the best boyfriend every girl?

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 5>Of course not, you know, and I didn't like confrontation.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't like. Breaking up was tough because I don't

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<v Speaker 5>like to disappoint people, you know, so you know, there

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<v Speaker 5>were times I would do the operation fade out, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you just become less available.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I was never in a long.

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<v Speaker 5>Term relationship like that, and these were like dating a

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<v Speaker 5>girl for a month or two and you just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of so I never had that many long term girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you were one of like three, Yeah, I got it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think that one of the reasons I

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to do this was just to actually get

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<v Speaker 2>the story out because I'm so open, Like I'm such

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<v Speaker 2>an open book and I love storytelling, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like fun to talk about because it's been

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<v Speaker 2>so long and I so don't he doesn't feelings to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have feelings for him, so it's like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fun to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoot the breathe who talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>The Equinox story, because he said on Kelly He said on.

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<v Speaker 1>The podcast, I think he was mistaken.

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<v Speaker 2>He was saying, so Jerry on the podcast was saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's seen us. I saw me at Equinox and

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<v Speaker 2>he came up to me and was like, oh, and

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<v Speaker 2>did this funny thing, like oh my god, I missed

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<v Speaker 2>you so much, but like like being sarcastic. And I

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<v Speaker 2>saw him at Equinox. I was actually with Bill and

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<v Speaker 2>we were like on treadmills and we saw him, and

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't come up to me. I thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to and then he went up to Bill and

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<v Speaker 2>they were having fun talking again, So he never came

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<v Speaker 2>up to me. I think he was just telling that story,

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<v Speaker 2>like as a funny story. But we did not ever talk,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think people have wondered have we seen each

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<v Speaker 2>other through the years. I saw people had asked that

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram, and funny enough, only one time it was

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<v Speaker 2>a major red carpet I was hosting. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>one of the big ones. It was like I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Globes or the Emmys, and I'm in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of doing a called like a hot switch when you

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<v Speaker 2>go from one cliber to the next, and then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I had like a one minute break

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<v Speaker 2>and out of nowhere, I feel someone tapped my back

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<v Speaker 2>and I turn around and it's Cherry. And at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe we're just married Bill, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, hey, He's like I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to say you're doing great and you look great and

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<v Speaker 2>have a great show tonight. And I was like, huh,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still was harboring, like a brain surgeon.

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<v Speaker 4>Your ex wouldn't come up and tap you in the

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<v Speaker 4>back the middle surgery, Like you're like, you're being professional,

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<v Speaker 4>that's rattling.

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<v Speaker 2>I was very focused. But I think he figured like.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was probably trying to be the bigger pass

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<v Speaker 7>and bad wrong timing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I was a little bit like, no, don't even,

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<v Speaker 2>don't even because I still remembered what he did and

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<v Speaker 2>even till today, twenty two years later, how he handled

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<v Speaker 2>it was not right. And I can still say that

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two years later.

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<v Speaker 1>And he but he admitted it.

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<v Speaker 4>So he didn't get you into so last week like

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<v Speaker 4>this is more about like validating young Juliana.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Validate, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>There needs to be accountability sometimes, you know. For him,

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with Kate, Like that's what really upset me

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<v Speaker 3>him last week, saying trying to diminish what your relationship was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and that's not the case and it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think that was cool either.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, girls care Chicago, real girls in La. No,

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<v Speaker 6>that's part.

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<v Speaker 3>Men are from Mars. I mean, but it does matter

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<v Speaker 3>to women, you know, it does you know? And so

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<v Speaker 3>him diminishing it, I think just it pissed me off.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>As my best friend, as Collet's like, she's my best

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<v Speaker 2>she was my best friend. She lived through that time

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<v Speaker 2>with me. It was really hard. In fact, when he,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cheated on me in London and all the

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<v Speaker 2>pictures came out with Ginger Space, I was here in

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<v Speaker 2>LA and Collette was over my house every night. It

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<v Speaker 2>was devastating because we went from so hot to so cold,

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<v Speaker 2>this shock of a lifetime. And my parents flew from

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<v Speaker 2>DC to LA to come be with me because I

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<v Speaker 2>was so upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the chips.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my dad was pissed.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, your sister called me and she was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't you know, don't leave her alone.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, there's no way.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody was so worried about you. I mean he did

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<v Speaker 3>you dirty?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, it was bad. It was bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he the first guy to break up with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Great question? And the answer, yes, yeah, he was my

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<v Speaker 2>first heartbreak. That was for sure and my only heartbreak

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<v Speaker 2>really right, because thank God Phil has not broken my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the deal. But go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you go from with Bill? You're next?

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<v Speaker 2>For a year, I was very, very sad and devastated

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<v Speaker 2>and heartbroken, and I just couldn't even imagine like finding

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<v Speaker 2>someone else, for being with anyone else or trusting anyone

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<v Speaker 2>else ever again. And then I met Bill and it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a second time.

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<v Speaker 5>You first met me with Jerry and then we met yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and the Boys and Girls Club in Santa.

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<v Speaker 2>Monica, like I interviewed him and that's where then I

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed him, and then that was it, like, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have to be honest with you, within I kid you

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<v Speaker 2>not Like I met Bill. He walked me to my car.

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<v Speaker 2>I got in the car and I knew like it no,

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<v Speaker 2>I got home. I will never forget. I got home

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<v Speaker 2>and I literally was like, oh my God, like I

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<v Speaker 2>met the man of my dreams. Oh my God, I

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<v Speaker 2>met the man I'm going to be with. And thank God.

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<v Speaker 2>So the happy ending here is like everything is meant

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, whether the universe has a plan, God has

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<v Speaker 2>a plan, whatever it is for me. God had a plan.

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<v Speaker 2>It was meant to happen, and I met Bill, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would never have met Bill had Jerry not broken

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<v Speaker 2>my heart. So I'm actually thankful to Jerry that it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't work out. I really am.

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<v Speaker 4>So you don't get to be a fuck boy and

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<v Speaker 4>laugh at it twenty two years later.

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<v Speaker 2>See that's where I wanted to do this. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just have to say to everyone out there, maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>if you think your boyfriend is up to something, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>being a little shady, maybe just say, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>we should listen to like, you know, this podcast that

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<v Speaker 2>I go and let him listen this because the lesson

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<v Speaker 2>of the day here, truly is what the heck like

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<v Speaker 2>if you are over someone for whatever reason, do not

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<v Speaker 2>let them be the last to know, or the fifth

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<v Speaker 2>to know, or the fourth to know. Just man up,

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<v Speaker 2>baby and let him know. You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Like boys cheat men, tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 5>This episode brought to you by jose sonal private investigator.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether your boyfriend is cheating and.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, day boys marry men. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I did. And you know, I'm just like love that.

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<v Speaker 1>We love Bill Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I hang.

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<v Speaker 3>Gone for Bill. Bill's my brother. I mean I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>grateful for Bill ran six. So thank god you guys

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<v Speaker 3>found each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I did tell you you were going to marry him.

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<v Speaker 3>I did tell you that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know she did tell me that day, So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I'm the bad one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but this was Jerry.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for playing. This is all meant in good

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<v Speaker 5>spirit and you know, not in a bad place. So

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I like Jerry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a good guy do I mean, Jerry is very

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<v Speaker 2>funny and I will just say like he's welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>come on the podcast if there's a different.

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<v Speaker 1>Version of Football Cigars.

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<v Speaker 2>There's three sides to every story, the guy side, the

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<v Speaker 2>girls side of their best friend's side, and the truth

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<v Speaker 2>their best friend's side. Color.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you guys for tuning in, and thank you to Kate,

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<v Speaker 5>m Anastasia, Ava, Brianna and Meredith.

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<v Speaker 2>A Yay so fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And Duke Grant Sick. Running audio.