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Speaker 3: I'm Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, new start time on this artsy Friday, same washed

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Speaker 1: known as Morning Combat. I'm Brian Campbell, live in direct

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Speaker 1: from Las Vegas. The Cough Theater behind me, Disilay hanging

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Speaker 1: so itchy and close and desperately ragingly excited. David Benavitez

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Speaker 1: and Caleb Plant this Saturday and Showtime pay per view.

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Speaker 1: a fantastic show for you today, not only setting the

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Speaker 1: In order right now. But Luke, we're gonna look at

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Speaker 3: You did wake up with a fire on your ass.

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Speaker 3: In the end, it's about sports out, not the cash.

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Speaker 1: I said this yesterday and I want to echo it

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Speaker 1: Let's see the face off between them. Let's relive that.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I just what do you want me to

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Speaker 1: On any level, on any topic. And I think it

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Speaker 2: That's enough, Okay, there it is, yes.

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Speaker 3: Bro, alright, alright, alright, alright. A lot of test top

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, but he's always talking saying I'm fat, that

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Speaker 1: Well, I got a key question off of that sound,

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Speaker 3: I don't ever wait for an opponent to make me

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Speaker 1: in this stage for the first time, having an opponent

433
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Speaker 1: that won't back down, I mean, look, ultimately, the true

434
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 1: question of how this fight actually finishes, and what you

435
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 1: know who wins is whether is whether Caleb Plant's chin

436
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 1: can hold up. That's the true question. But if it

437
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 1: does hold up, I think that's where you start to

438
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 1: look at some of the things Plant is saying about

439
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 1: Benavidez in wonder, you know, does he have an edge

440
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 1: on him and those intangibles. If it gets to that

441
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 1: crazy point either way, we're gonna see the very best

442
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 1: we've ever seen of David Benavitez at age twenty six pieces.

443
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 1: I think he's carried that chip on his shoulder of

444
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 1: missteps that you know he claims and rightfully says was

445
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 1: his fault, the cocaine test, missing weight during the pandemic,

446
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: all that. But we're now seeing him against the toughest

447
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: opponent on his resume in terms of facing them in

448
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 1: their prime by far, and we're not gonna find out, Luke,

449
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: how good he actually is with no excuses. And something

450
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: you asked him was why now? Why is now the

451
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: time that you are going to be at your very

452
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: best and that this fight is finally coming together, and

453
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,479
Speaker 1: that it's your time to not just beat Caleb Plant,

454
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: but remain the long term boogeyman for Canelo and potentially

455
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: that that boss at the end of the one hundred

456
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Speaker 1: and sixty eight pounds video game. Let's hear what Benevita said.

457
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Speaker 6: So what I'm saying is He's not some huge, one punch,

458
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 6: knockout power type of guy. He's a volume puncher. That's

459
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 6: his greatest assay. He's a volume puncher.

460
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 5: Because I had to keep the promise to the little kid.

461
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 5: I told myself, you know, when I was thirteen years old,

462
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 5: I told myself I was gonna be here when I

463
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Speaker 5: got to the pay per view.

464
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Speaker 3: I was gonna work my asso no matter who was

465
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Speaker 3: or who.

466
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Speaker 5: Was in front of me, I was gonna be in

467
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Speaker 5: spectacular fashion and I was going to be that man,

468
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 5: the next pay per view star. And that's definitely what

469
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 5: I wanted to be. Even before I got the phone

470
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Speaker 5: call for Caleb Plant, I was extremely ready. I wasn't

471
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Speaker 5: in a training camp for another fight. So, I mean,

472
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 5: this is probably the hardest I've ever worked. And I

473
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 5: just turned twenty six years old. So I'm kind of

474
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Speaker 5: getting in my prime, you know. I mean at the

475
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Speaker 5: beginning stages of my prime. So I'm even stronger now

476
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Speaker 5: than I was back then. And everything that's led me,

477
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 5: the good and the bad, has led me to this moment,

478
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Speaker 5: and I just can't wait to take advantage of this.

479
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Speaker 1: No, I don't know, if you know, if I could

480
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Speaker 1: pull off those classes. But do I believe we're going

481
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Speaker 1: to get the best version that they've been to be this?

482
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Speaker 3: Ye? Es, yes, you know.

483
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: But the thing is what's interesting is Caleb Plant has

484
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: said a lot of things about him, and again some

485
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: of this is dealing in areas that might be true.

486
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: Have you ever faced a supermitivate my size? I was

487
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: surprised when they finally did face off there how kind

488
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 1: of close in size they've seemed to be. The skill

489
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: factor does seem to be wide. It is boxer versus puncher,

490
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: even though Benavitz is certainly a craftier brawler and bully,

491
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, on the elite level than we tend to see.

492
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Speaker 1: But Luke, here's something very interesting from Caleb Plant ultimately

493
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Speaker 1: about why he does believe people are overrating Benevetez and

494
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: while it fuels his reason for not showing any level

495
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Speaker 1: of fear or even really respect, maybe baseline respect. I

496
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: have to get myself prepared because I know how dangerous

497
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: this guy is. But Plant doesn't really think Benavitez is

498
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: all that, certainly not at this level.

499
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Speaker 3: And here's why.

500
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Speaker 6: So what I'm saying is he's not some huge, one

501
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 6: punch knockout power type of guy. He's a volume puncher.

502
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 6: That's his greatest assay. He's a volume puncher. And so,

503
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 6: you know, for him to try and build this up,

504
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 6: maybe he's trying to make me scare his power now,

505
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 6: this newfound power he has.

506
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Speaker 3: But he's not.

507
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 6: He's not a one punch knockout power. He doesn't punch

508
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 6: as hard as Canelo. He doesn't punch as hard as

509
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 6: Jose Uskatzigi. He's a volume puncher. So but hey, if

510
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 6: he feels like he's this big, you know, one punch

511
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 6: knockou power guy, more power to him.

512
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 3: I can't wait. I can't wait to see how that

513
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: plays out. I really can't wait.

514
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: I mean he's no is he a one punch guy. No,

515
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: he's not a one punch guy, but he frutilizes you.

516
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: And also here's the other part.

517
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 3: He can have one shot that hurts you and then

518
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: the follow up is right behind, and then the follow

519
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: up is right behind. And so, yes, does he have

520
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 3: the one like this, But he can put four on

521
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: you in the span of a time. It takes another

522
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 3: got to put one or two. And that's where the

523
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: problem lies is once you get hit with one. Remember

524
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: we talked about it the gatling gun of shots that

525
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: come right behind it. That's where you get overwhelmed in

526
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 3: an instant.

527
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Speaker 1: Look at the reflection from your laptop. Look look into

528
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: the camera. It's giving you off the laptop.

529
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: It's the lights. All right, there you go. There's nothing

530
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 3: I can do about that. Okay, I was.

531
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: I was mesmerized by it. But I think what you're

532
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: what you're saying, well, no, I mean, are you We.

533
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: Can hear you, guys, if I had if I had

534
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 3: Ebola in a squirt gun, I would spray it in

535
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: your face. I just want you to know that. Okay,

536
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: thank you.

537
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: Uh, this is the look I mean. You also have

538
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: to avoid those shots. Let's see if Plant can do it. Ultimately,

539
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: he couldn't against Canelo. But these are different fighters. Styles

540
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: make fights. There's a reason why I think we're giving

541
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: odds makers giving Plant much more chance against the Benevitez

542
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: than Canelo.

543
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: Canelo also have the skill.

544
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: And accuracy to go with that speed and power. But Luke,

545
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: if Caleb Plant is gonna win, it's probably gonna be

546
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: with what he's saying, avoiding those shots.

547
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: You're relying on his skills.

548
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: He believes he's the more skilled fighter for sure, and

549
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: I think there's no question in that. I think the

550
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: big questions here is the breadman relationship. How much does

551
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: that raise the element of Plant being a more dangerous

552
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: puncher than he showed. The Darrell knockout last year, knock

553
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 1: Out of the Year certainly echoed that. But one thing

554
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: I've been harping on all week, and I gotta be honest,

555
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: anyone who's gonna bet on this fight, anybody with a

556
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: you know who has some serious interest to try to

557
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: figure out who's gonna win, and do you have the odds?

558
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've actually grown in Benavidez's favorite. Oh tell me

559
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 3: what we got here, Benevidez scorded to our friends over

560
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: at Caesar's, or I should say, yeah, Caesar's Wow. Minus

561
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: three sixty for David Benavidez plus two to eighty for

562
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: Caleb Plant. Right, We're gonna get to our pick in

563
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: a second.

564
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: But based on those odds, what you have to figure

565
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: out when betting this fight, and everyone's facing this dilemma.

566
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: We know that in the end of the day's skills

567
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: to pay the bill. Skills win fights. But the slant

568
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: against Plants skills in this sense per se, even though

569
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: he's got the skill advantage, is he's facing a bruising

570
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: type of guy who can play into the one disadvantage

571
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: he has outside of that Darrell knockout of not being

572
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: a big time puncher. Let's see if it ultimately plays

573
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: out that way. But the dilemma for all betting oddsmen is,

574
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: you know Plant has the skills, but this level of

575
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: confidence that he's showing this maniacol almost like sadistic level,

576
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: like playing mind games and just cool the whole time

577
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: and calculated. Is it because he knows a secret that

578
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: David Benavitez is going to be the first one to

579
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: find out on Saturday? Or has he just excelled at

580
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: putting in the work and talking himself up to be

581
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: ready for this moment. We've seen a lot of confident

582
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: people go into big fucks and lose. There does seem

583
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: to be something extra about this version of Caleb Plant,

584
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: And I asked him about that.

585
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 6: Well, Uh, you know, I've been doing this for a

586
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 6: long time at a really high level, and you know

587
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 6: I've always succeeded at the highest level in boxing weather

588
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 6: it's from the amateur's golden globe National Championship, Olympic alternate,

589
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 6: you know, Olympic trials, and then obviously you know, moving

590
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 6: through the pros, the fight with Jose Who Scott to Yell,

591
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 6: I was an underdog year layoff coming off of BROCNE.

592
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 6: I came in and did you know, did what I did,

593
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 6: got my hand raised, became champ against the rail coming

594
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 6: off the Canelo loss, almost a year layoff, came back,

595
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 6: did what I did. And then even with Canelo, you know,

596
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 6: I didn't wind up not going my way, but I

597
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 6: know the type of work I put in and the

598
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 6: success that I did have, and you know, that was

599
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 6: a hostile environment.

600
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 3: That was a hostile crowd. We were there, we were

601
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: just talking about that.

602
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so you know, coming out the other side

603
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 6: of that, with his success that I had, it didn't

604
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 6: feel made me feel like I was a step further

605
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 6: away from accomplishment goal. It's made me feel like I

606
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 6: was just one step closer.

607
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: Luke, I've been asking you this all week. It's a

608
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: day before the fight. It's poking the bear. The right

609
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: thing to do here for Gala plan.

610
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: I think so, I think so, I think you can't

611
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: lay back, you can't try and be mister professional, mister cool,

612
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: which he is being cool to an extent, right, he's

613
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: not getting overly emotional about it. But I do think

614
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: you're not gonna on some level, man. You really got

615
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: to match his intensity, David Benavidez, his intensity, right, They

616
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 3: always talk about that in wrestling matches, whatever the intensity

617
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: of your opponent is, you have to match or exceed that.

618
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: And of course that's a different sport and a different

619
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 3: kind of aesthetic that goes with it. But at the

620
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: same time, I just you know, I remember that press

621
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 3: conference that Connor had with half Aldosanjos before that fight

622
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: fell through, and then Adie Alvarez one filled in, which

623
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: is that but you know he was eating him alive

624
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: at that press conference and you saw Dossan just try

625
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: and lay back and like, you know, I'm gonna ignore

626
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: it and bubble and it just didn't work. You have

627
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 3: to swear for Eddie either didn't work for Eddie either.

628
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: You've got to match his intensity and if you don't,

629
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: you know, you're just gonna get run over. So like

630
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: the kind of situation they're in there, kind of forced

631
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: to play mind games a little bit with one another,

632
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: So you know, and then going to David Benavidez dot

633
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: com route. Sure, you're gonna get David Benavidez defeated when

634
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: you can get him off of his game, when you

635
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: can get him to overreact, when you can get him frustrated.

636
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: He has built up in his mind. Both guys have

637
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: built up in their mind this expectation that Saturday is

638
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: going to go their way. But when they're in the

639
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: middle of it, if it's not going their way and

640
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: they've been frustrated and this dude is in their head

641
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: and they can't think clearly, Yes, I think that will work,

642
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: but just laying back and be like I'm going to

643
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: Like you could lay back and accept it. If the

644
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: skilled differential was much more noteworthy, then you could be like,

645
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: I'm about to teach you a lesson on Saturday. But

646
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: this is a closely contested one, and I think Caleb

647
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: Plant knows he can't make mistakes. But at the same time,

648
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: you just can't lay back and let this guy dictate

649
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: the tenor of the pre fight coverage. You got to

650
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: get in there and mix it up with him a little.

651
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: Bit and smart this is he's showing us that that

652
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: he's smart.

653
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: Whether this works or not.

654
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: Like I always say, Luke, on the basketball court, you

655
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: put you poke the pair of the wrong guy, You're

656
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna find out the hard way.

657
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: That's life, right, People are wired differently.

658
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: He may find out the hard way, But I think

659
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: this is the best for his skills to play mattage

660
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: order the bowl for sure, but also to try to

661
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: build any advantage he can mentally why because if Plant's

662
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: gonna win this fight, it's gonna be by decision, and

663
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to walk in and out of hell

664
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: and be fine being close to that fire, which I

665
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: think he will be, So any slight advantage he can gain,

666
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: like Luke said, to get Benevitez off his game, or

667
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: to just mix him up, make him reset. Bradman Edwards

668
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: in his corner of this relationship heading into fight two

669
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: is big to close before we get ready for Okay

670
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: bet and our prediction here. A lot of people have

671
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,239
Speaker 1: just asked, kind of casually, like, Hey, I haven't been

672
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: following this, what is the root of this beef? Why

673
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: do these guys hate each other? Luke I wrote a

674
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: story about it this week. I think it comes down

675
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: to this. We know that Caleb Plants in fint Daughter

676
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, Aliyah died at a very young age,

677
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: and that was a big part of the story that

678
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: we told about who this guy is.

679
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: As he rose.

680
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: At some point, Luke, he saw a video with Jose

681
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: Benavidez Senior, the father and trainer of David, where he

682
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: basically said, look, I think Caleb's milking this. I think

683
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's using this like his daughter's gone

684
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: let it, let it go and focus on you know.

685
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: He basically did one of those things. Caleb said, that's unforgivable.

686
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: You know, you went to the level beyond you know,

687
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: even talking about my wife. You know, this is so

688
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: he bound to never forgive them, Luke, and that led

689
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: beautifully into that twenty eighteen gym altercation we talk a

690
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: lot about in Las Vegas, where yes, Plant did throw

691
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: the first punch at Jose Benavidez Junior, the older brother

692
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: of David, and it.

693
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: Escalated from there.

694
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out in the ring on Saturday, Luke,

695
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: and it's time to make our selections. We do this

696
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: segment every week based on demand from you folks, so

697
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: hopefully you're enjoying it. I don't know if you've enjoyed

698
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: the success of our picks, but Luke and I will

699
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: go head to head every Friday five picks the biggest

700
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: main event of the weekend favorites underdogs, which fight will

701
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: go oh oh, go the distance or not? And of

702
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: course finally, which fight will end in either a KO

703
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: or a SUB and you have to pick it and Luke.

704
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: Based on some criticism of me picking boxing matches and

705
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: KO and sub moving forward, it can be MMA match only.

706
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: Okay enough.

707
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: Last week Luke had a tie, let's not forget, in

708
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: a fight that turned out to be a draw involving

709
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: Ji Herbert. I also had a fight Luke that never

710
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: happened featuring Gay, Brizato and Zerto. So I will pick

711
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: an extra bonus pick this week to even us out.

712
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: But as we stand, you went two two and one

713
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: last week. I went two and two. Your Morning Combat Up.

714
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: Updated standings are Luke Thomas in first place with twenty wins,

715
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: eighteen losses and one tie.

716
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: That's despicable. Ye slightly above five hundred, which I'm sure

717
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: I will fall out of.

718
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm fifteen and twenty three overalls.

719
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: I'm the Washington Wizards and you're the Detroit Pistons.

720
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: You have the champions advantages being in the lead, which

721
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: means you can you can veto any picks that we

722
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: have that are mutual, and you can pick whether you

723
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: go first or sick.

724
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 3: I'll go first, all right.

725
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: Our main event of the weekend is Benavitez versus Plant Luke,

726
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: Who wins and why I'm.

727
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: Gonna ride with Caleb Plant I I might live to

728
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: regret it. But if you just look at David Benavidez's resume,

729
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: certainly the guys he's fought he has soundly defeated. He

730
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: was much better than I do think he's very good.

731
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: He's twenty six years old, this is his first time

732
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: and the big show, by the way, and he obviously

733
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: has had, you know, some professionalism issues. I don't really

734
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: the fact that the US cocaine is not of interest

735
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: to me, and I don't think he should have ever

736
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: lost his title, but he did misweait and he lost

737
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: the title on the scales that way. There's just been

738
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: some things where, you know, his professionalism has been called

739
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: into question. Not this time. I don't believe that. I

740
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: really do believe we're gonna get a great David Benavidez,

741
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: which makes this hill took for Caleb Plant to climb

742
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: much higher. But I think that Caleb had Caleb BC.

743
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: Would you agree whether you think David Benavidez is gonna

744
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: win or lose. Caleb is the better boxer, Yes, pure boxer.

745
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 3: He's the better boxer bye by far, by far.

746
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: Because what Benavidez is great is takes the art of

747
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: brawling but adds craft.

748
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: Adds craft to it, and he's big and imposing and

749
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: can kind of like lean over you, and you know

750
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: he's got he does have good power. He works the job,

751
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: he knows how Yeah, like whatever Caleb says about him,

752
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 3: like he is a very skilled tectician in the way

753
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: in which he fights. So this one's gonna be competitive. Certainly,

754
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: if they have been a Benavidez wins, you wouldn't be like,

755
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: how did that happen? You would know, But Caleb Plant

756
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: has I think Caleb Plant's experience against Canelo, which was

757
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: the hostile crowd, hostile fight week, everyone counting him out,

758
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: everyone counting him out, and I didn't think he was

759
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 3: he had the firepower to beat Canelo. I wonder if

760
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: he might against David Benavidez, who I do think has

761
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: better overall firepower, but is much more stationary, much more

762
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: able to be hit, does not have Canelo's defense, does

763
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: not have Canelo's shoulder rolling and trickery, does not have

764
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: the same kind of ring craft that I think Caleb

765
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: Plant is used to. So I think Caleb Plant is

766
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: the more skilled guy. It's an uphill climb. He might

767
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: lose certain rounds in dramatic ways, but I think he's

768
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: gonna over time, David Benavidez is gonna be frustrated, He's

769
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: gonna make mistakes. I think he gets dropped in this contest.

770
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: You think David Benavidez gets dropped, Here's what I mean,

771
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: gets dropped by Gavriel won the title.

772
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: Here's what I mean, not so much because he gets

773
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 3: hit so hard with a shot that he just goes

774
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: and gets You know, his brain doesn't work right. But

775
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: that oftentimes Here's the thing. I talk about it all

776
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: the time. Guys, you got to pay attention. Watch how

777
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: many guys go back foot first when they go into

778
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: position in boxing, and it makes you front foot heavy

779
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: and hard to pivot and hard to move. He does

780
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: it a fair amount as he comes in square. I

781
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 3: think a guy like Caleb Plant, if he has trained

782
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 3: right with Redman Edwards, is gonna feast on something like that,

783
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: and so he chant has to be there. Here's what

784
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: I mean. Cayleb's getting knocked down. He's getting knocked down

785
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: on the front up. Sure, I think that's right. I

786
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 3: think he's gonna get beat up to the body too

787
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 3: real bad. But here's what I'm pointing out. He might

788
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: get knocked down because he's off balance. That's actually a

789
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: real thing, and they're gonna count it no matter whatvidez.

790
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: If your gloves touch the ground or your you get

791
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 3: sat to your rear end, even if you're not rock,

792
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: they're gonna count it. And so those kinds of things

793
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: I think are actually on the table for Caleb Plant.

794
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm reaching, I probably am, but I'm gonna ride

795
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 3: with Caleb Plan. I think he's got a real chance

796
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: here to do something special.

797
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm surprised that you came around, because sometimes I

798
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: can fall for things easier luke a flascy package or

799
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: somebody just showing you a mental toughness mix with the

800
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: skills that I know they have. But there's a lot

801
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: of reason to believe in the go ahead.

802
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: Would you agree Caleb's best win is much better than

803
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: Benefitez his best win.

804
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: It's better it's jose Uskottighi back when he was a

805
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: champion and closer to his pride and on the gear.

806
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: I won't say much much better, but he had. Yes,

807
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: he has a better win. And then the experience of

808
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: Canelo is a monster part of it. So here's the deal.

809
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm not just falling for Caleb Plants the underdog here

810
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: of the confidence, the upward trajectory of where he's going

811
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: and the improvements he's making and the confidence he has added.

812
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: He's rounding out to try to be the very best

813
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: he can be in every single category mentally physically, and

814
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: now with Redman Edwards figuring out how to be how

815
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: to have more power when it matters, I think they

816
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: know the uphill challenge here that even if you're ahead,

817
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: let's say, you know, six rounds to one entering the

818
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: seventh round, even if you've corralled a bunch of early

819
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: rounds by boxing and avoiding the big shot and frustrating Benavidez,

820
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some downhill moments where Benavidez corners him,

821
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: and that's where the resolve of Kayla Plant has to

822
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: show up. It's not like he has a history of

823
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: being ever knocked down or knocked out outside of Canelo,

824
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: which I think was a confluence. Would you say, Luke

825
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: of clean punching fatigue? Like, dude, there's why styles make fights.

826
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: Canelo is actually a better boxer at the end of

827
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: the day than kalb Plant. Not as quick, but but

828
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: a better boxer has more, you know, more answers to

829
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: all the questions Benevedez doesn't. And for Benavidez to have

830
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: his biggest success offensively, he's gonna have to square up

831
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: and be you know, and be there to be hit

832
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: even if he's cornering you. So Kala Plan actually doesn't

833
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: have a history of being Chiney. He does have a

834
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: history of fading a little bit against Uskatagi and then

835
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: getting kind of rocked around by big shots. He never

836
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: went down, but it showed you, oh wow, this was

837
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: a fifteen round fight, he'd be in trouble. This is

838
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: a different Plant. Since then, I understand the idea of

839
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: looking at some of the guys that Plant beat outside

840
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: of us Katagie and not being overly impressed. At some points,

841
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: he was kind of used by PBC as a attraction

842
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: fighter to build the brand. You saw him in pay

843
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: per view comine events against Mike Lee from the Subway

844
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: commercial at a glossy record, but no chance against him.

845
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: But can't he step up and do this on this level?

846
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: He has the skills to do it. He certainly has

847
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: the belief if he's got more offensive firepower. I think

848
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: there's reasons to believe that this is the time for him, ultimately,

849
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: because sometimes it does come down to who you are

850
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: and who you've actually been. We have built up a

851
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: boogeyman reputation around David Benavitez, and largely that is rightfully so.

852
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: But the majority of his opponents have been either aging

853
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: or they've been what the hell is that, Luke? Or

854
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: they've been aggressive brawlers who Benevetez could not only meet

855
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: their aggression, he could outskill them and getting off his punches.

856
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: And he had the size, he had the gas tank,

857
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: he had the intention, and all of that. He's facing

858
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: deficit in some of these key categories. I believe when

859
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: matched up against Plant, it's playing gonna have to walk

860
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: through hell, yes, but do skills pay the bills at

861
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: the highest level, provided that you can get to that

862
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: twelveth round.

863
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: I think so.

864
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: I think Caleb Plant by close decision in a fight

865
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: that Luke. I think in the second half it's going

866
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more of an action fight

867
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: than than a boxing match or a cat and mouse

868
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: or anything like that. I think this is going to

869
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: succeed in entertaining us. And I don't know if the

870
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: Kalb Plant win means he gets Canelo, but I'm taking

871
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: Caleb Plants as the upset pick here too, and he

872
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: won us over. You have to admit he did win

873
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: us over this.

874
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did, He really did. And the other part too,

875
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: is Benavidez has never fought a guy like Plant, not

876
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: the same skill level, with the same kind of style. Yes,

877
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: and again David Benavidez is not Canelo, but in the

878
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: sense that Plant has faced someone who's going to try

879
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: and pressure him against the ropes, control him and then

880
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 3: go to work on combos in that area, he has

881
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 3: faced someone like David Benavide's in that sense, not the

882
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 3: same proportion, not the same style. But but look, what's

883
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: the smart bet.

884
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: What's the safe bet benefitez by Stoppage.

885
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: Hey, there's a dog.

886
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a dog here. There's loud noises, but just

887
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: a dog walking through. It's a police dog. They're looking for,

888
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: you know, looking for fucking dog is a narc Fuck

889
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: that dog? All right, that's your pick for the main event, Luke,

890
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: what's your favorite of the week?

891
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: Where are we going here? All right? Her favorite? We're

892
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: gonna go back to the UFC card. I'm gonna go

893
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: with Macy Barbara over Andrea Lee. Macy Barbara. I know

894
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: we talked about it that we was positioned as being

895
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: the next big thing, fell short of that couple of times,

896
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: but it is that kind of nicely rebounded over time.

897
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: I'm liking the growth in her game. I still believe

898
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: she's got a great future. As I mentioned, with twenty three,

899
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: twenty four years old, there's really a lot of time

900
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: for her to get better, and I think she is.

901
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: Andrea Lee, though I think it's kind of she's definitely

902
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 3: been She's definitely become much more well rounded over time,

903
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: but I still think it has some deficits in the

904
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: ground game. Controlling of the ground game. These are areas

905
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: where Barbara has tended to excel. Barbara gets better as

906
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: the fight goes longer. I wouldn't say the same for

907
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: lead necessarily. So it's close, it's competitive, it's not it's

908
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: you know, no one's really out of the realm of

909
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: catching a win here or el. But I like Matsy Barbara.

910
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: I think she's got more skills to win. Maybe goes

911
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: to this since maybe a dozen, but I think she

912
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: gets her hand.

913
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: Can she establish that ground and pound consistently against KGB?

914
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: And maybe not at first, but I think over time, yes,

915
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean she can. She can box and

916
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: that's great noise. I love that noise. I love that noise.

917
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, that's your favorite of the week.

918
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: My favorite will stay on the same card, and it's

919
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: the co feature and it's women's band and win, and

920
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: of course it's the return of Yanna Santo's formerly Kunitskaya

921
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: from giving birth her in mahet To, Luke.

922
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: Very beautiful, happy family, love it.

923
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: She's coming back quickly though, and turning it around against

924
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: the Agels. Wonder forty one year old Holly Holm. Luke,

925
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: you know the damning stat when talking about Holly. She's

926
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: four and six overall counting.

927
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: The Rossi fight.

928
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: Ever since the Rossi excuse me, yeah, six, But dude,

929
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: outside of the Kaitlyn Via split decision loss, which I

930
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: felt you could have gone either way, you would say

931
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: she only loses two champions, correct. Gdr Misha te Amanda

932
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: Nunas like that, Luke, She's a better fighter matchup to

933
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: matchup in this matchup. And that's why, Luke, I'm gonna

934
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: take Holly Holm, who is a minus two fifty favorite here.

935
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: That's a very safe smart vet because she can wrestle.

936
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: In this latter version of her look. People will scream

937
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: that she's overrated, but against this level of competition, she

938
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: does the job.

939
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: Remember when she schooled me and Anderson? Do you remember that?

940
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

941
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one of those fights. Why you just

942
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: not into it?

943
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: Can we move along? You're just not into UFC at all?

944
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 3: Can we move along?

945
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: At what point did you lose interest in the show?

946
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: I saw it coming early. I saw like little pockets.

947
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: And then it just like, I don't have interest in

948
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: not doing the show. I have interest in actually doing

949
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: the show. So we go to the next women's ban

950
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: on weights matter they do, they do just not as

951
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: much as you like to imagine. All Right, for my

952
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: underdog pick BC, I'm gonna go Albert Deriav. Albert Draiav

953
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: is taking on Cheety and Ji Kawani and according to

954
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: our friends at Caesar's, currently sits at a plus one

955
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: thirty spot. So it's very close. It's very competitive. Really,

956
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: this fight hinges on whether or not he can get

957
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 3: the takedown. It's really not so clear. So I'm gonna

958
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: take a guess that he can and he can either

959
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: get enough control time or a good ground and pound

960
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: to get the win. She did, and Ji Kawani has

961
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: much improve takedown defense, but I think once he starts

962
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: to chang wrestling attempts together, take down attempts together, that's

963
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: going to come undone. I like Chid excuse me, I

964
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: like Albert Dryev as my underdog pick for this week. Lucas.

965
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: Time for me to pick my underdog, and I'm going

966
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: to that featured about off UFC San Antonio the fight

967
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: Night card and it's in the bandamweight division. We got

968
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: to say we were wrong the other day we had

969
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: Cheeto Vera. You read the odds incorrect, you read it.

970
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: I did, sorry about that and I didn't check it.

971
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: We had Chido Vera as the favorite the whole time

972
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: as we were giving analysis. Luke Cory Saneagen is technically

973
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: here the betting favorite.

974
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: Now you can understand that. Correct. Umm, yes, there's a fight.

975
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: You want to talk about it?

976
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: I was, will you stop, I'm trying to get get

977
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: in on the same line with the emotionally, you know, I.

978
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 3: Am here to do the show. I am, you know, candidly,

979
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: I'll be lying if I said it wasn't a little

980
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: bit surprised. Now the odds are close, yeah, so you know,

981
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: and again the odds are made in a way to

982
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: induce betting. They're not a full reflection of the reality.

983
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm a little surprised. I again, Corey has faced much

984
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: tougher competition, and I think his record has suffered a

985
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: little bit for that.

986
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: But you would say he's battle tested. It's not like

987
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: we're seeing getting KO'ed.

988
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: Let's super battle testing.

989
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: It goes five hard rounds with elite dudes.

990
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Cheeto is battle tested in his own way,

991
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: like he's been in the organization for a while. He has.

992
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 3: You can't say he hasn't worked his way up the

993
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 3: food chain. He most definitely has. He's writing high momentum. Again,

994
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: it's the two factors we talked about. His physical sturdiness

995
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: is one, and his ability to work at kicking range

996
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: with more pressure over time. We call him the king

997
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: of the five rounders on this show. He really is

998
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: for that reason, I'm slightly surprised. But again, who has

999
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: more overall skills? Cory Sandhagan does, and I think they

1000
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: might be looking at.

1001
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: Well, look, it plays into my underdog pick care of

1002
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: cheeto Vera. Luke at plus one point thirty eight, it's

1003
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: as close as can be. But he's got the he's

1004
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: got the biggest weapon because Corey, he's standing to taking

1005
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: have more ways to control elements of the fight and

1006
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: maybe even win it. Yes, but who has the biggest

1007
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: gun in the fight, Luke, it's Marlin cheeto Vera.

1008
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: Look, you would you say that he's he's.

1009
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: Operating at an almost twenty nineteen mas Vidalian Yeah, a

1010
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: little bit where it's like just in the form of

1011
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: being able to turn just a moment into instant violence

1012
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: that changes the course of the fight.

1013
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: That and he's got a certain.

1014
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: Give him five rounds too, you're giving him five rounds

1015
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: to figure this out.

1016
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 3: Too, you know what I mean. I have an interviewed

1017
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: Cheeto in a while, but I used to interview him

1018
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: and there was a certain kind of humble, happy to

1019
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: be there kind of attitude. Yeah that's gone, that's gone. Dude.

1020
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: He's got real he wants the money, he wants you

1021
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: listen to him talk man. He's got a real hitman mentality.

1022
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: He believes he's better than these guys. I think for

1023
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: the first time, not ever, but like right at this moment,

1024
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: I think he believes he can win a title. I

1025
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: think he's he believes he's destined to win one. The

1026
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: way which he's performing is better than ever. He switched

1027
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: coaches from Colin Oyama to Jason Pirillo. I think that

1028
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: has really upped some of the finer tuning of his

1029
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: game that he needed. And he looks dynamite. He looks dynamite. Butt.

1030
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 3: I texted briefly with Ryan Hall yesterday, who's cornering core

1031
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: san Haagen, and they seem to think that that, you know,

1032
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: Corey has really right to the corner. A great fight.

1033
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great fricking fight. I'm gonna go

1034
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: the upset pick. But before before we I'm that's official

1035
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: for okay Bet. He is my underdog, Cheeto Vera. I

1036
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: feel like I'm getting I feel like I'm I believe

1037
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: in this guy here. But look before we get your

1038
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: take on this. Outside of Okay Bet. Colleague of ours,

1039
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: Shaquille MAJORI, you know, I'm from CBS Sports Vancouver, the

1040
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: Prince of Persia. He caught up with Corey Sanhagen and

1041
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: they talked about this exact challenge.

1042
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 3: Let's hear from team san Hagu.

1043
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 7: He's like a very grounded fighter, right, so he doesn't

1044
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 7: rely on his footwork to win, and that's fine, you know,

1045
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 7: like that's great. Uh, I rely on my footwork to win.

1046
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 7: Cruiser's given him some troubles. Cruise doesn't really have like

1047
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 7: the greatest guard in the world, Like his hands don't

1048
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 7: really come back to his face much. So there's like

1049
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 7: that mistake. I do think that I'm a much better

1050
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 7: defensive fighter. Maybe I won't say much better, but I'm

1051
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 7: a better defensive fighter than I think Cruiz is just

1052
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 7: because I had better hand position than a better guard.

1053
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 7: But you know, I think that Gido is going to

1054
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 7: pressure me. He's going to try to make it kind

1055
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 7: of an ugly fight. I think that he's going to

1056
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 7: try to do his best to wear on me. He's

1057
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 7: going to try to do his best to make me

1058
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 7: move my feet so that I run out of energy.

1059
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 7: And I'm going to do my best to you know,

1060
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 7: not let any of those things happen. And I'm ready

1061
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 7: to take the fight wherever the fight needs to go.

1062
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 7: I'm a quiet, humble kind of guy, you know, so

1063
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 7: I don't really get to show the dog that's inside

1064
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 7: me sometimes, you know, in my last couple, I kind

1065
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 7: of have. But if that's what I got to do

1066
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 7: to win, and That's what I'll do to win too.

1067
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 7: So I'm ready for however ugly or however beautiful Saturday

1068
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 7: night is. I'm ready for the both of them.

1069
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: He's got that dog and them, Luke, does he get

1070
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: to win on Saturday?

1071
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't make that pick. I didn't do that

1072
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: for my thing. Do you do?

1073
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: You you lean either way or you're just like, let's

1074
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I don't know that's painful. I just are

1075
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: you passing kidney stones?

1076
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: Quite? I It's almost like I need to see what

1077
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: Corey's got in this performance to understand where he's at,

1078
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 3: you know, look at this is a performance that's calling

1079
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: on him to do something.

1080
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: Different, and I'm getting care can't keep.

1081
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: Doing the ship you've been doing. He's so talented. But

1082
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: we talked about some of the mistakes and the strategic,

1083
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: you know, visions. I think we need to be retooled.

1084
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: And this is this is that moment where it's like, Okay,

1085
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: did he figure all that out? At least a big

1086
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: part of that out. I'd like to believe he can't.

1087
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 3: He's too smart, he's too talented not to. But do

1088
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: Cheeto Vera is a fucking brick wall. Look at Tristan

1089
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: nodding right, don't you agree, Tristan? Well, where are you? Tristan?

1090
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: Are you san Haagen or or Cheeto? This weekend? Cheat you?

1091
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: And you know how Tristan lives his life too write

1092
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: damage and destruction, just like.

1093
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: Why I stop at your by decision by decision? Interesting?

1094
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: All right? Can we finish our picks? Because That's where

1095
00:47:59,719 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: I'm at.

1096
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: No, we can't, because Luke, I've got an interesting thing.

1097
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: You think Corey san Hagen's thinking about winning this fight

1098
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: and then fighting the winner of Suhudo versus al Jo.

1099
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: I think he's not necessarily his topic two.

1100
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 3: We can get to that a little now.

1101
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: We got to finish this splendid together because why would

1102
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: you go back to it? It would fee odd and awkward,

1103
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: So we close with it right now. Before we continue,

1104
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: here's Cory san Hey can talk about who we would

1105
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: really want to fight.

1106
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 3: I think just like things are kind of being held

1107
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 3: up a bet because you have Shudo, you have Morob

1108
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: not wanting to fight al Joe. It's a little messy

1109
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: at the top end.

1110
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 7: It seems a little bit messy. I think that I

1111
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 7: personally feel like the next fight for me should be

1112
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 7: against Morob. I think that Morob is definitely the toughest

1113
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 7: guy who isn't the champ right now. I think that

1114
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 7: he showed that in his last fight. His last fight

1115
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 7: was like very inspiring even for me. It made me

1116
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 7: want to get like a lot a lot better, So

1117
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 7: I think that that'll be the next fight. I keep

1118
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 7: hearing whispers about O'Malley being the next one to fight

1119
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 7: for the bell after this Hudo and Sternlon fight, So

1120
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 7: if they do that, then you know, Morov seems like

1121
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 7: a very energetic guy who doesn't want to sit on

1122
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 7: the couch for very long. And we'll both be sitting

1123
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 7: on the couch for quite some time if if me

1124
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 7: and him don't fight, I don't think O'Malley will fight,

1125
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 7: not for a title unless he has to. That would be,

1126
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 7: you know, maybe not the smartest move on his part,

1127
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 7: even though I don't want to talk him out of it.

1128
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 7: I don't want to talk him out of it.

1129
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: For more, you can watch the extended interviews there on

1130
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: the shack MMA YouTube channel. That's a smart it's a

1131
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: smart answer, very smart answer. We can still hear you, guys,

1132
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: we can still hear you a very smart answer. I'm

1133
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: not trying to speed U up through UFC. I mean

1134
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: this is dur Fans love this, you know, Why would

1135
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: you be such an asshole to them?

1136
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: I don't think that's what's happening here.

1137
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: How much does Corciana can look like Corey Minichi are

1138
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: great producer?

1139
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: Oh they're like doppelgangers, like a gingered version of him.

1140
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't embarrass Corey and make him go out

1141
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: here so we can do the split screen to like,

1142
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, share mannerisms and facial because I'd probably be

1143
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: like too much and that'll really piss you off, because

1144
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: you need to get to your over underpick.

1145
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: So what's your pick? Look, I paused the show for that.

1146
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, wow entertainment. Wow.

1147
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if Maniche is willing. I mean, he's

1148
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: like an accomplished musician. He doesn't have time to be

1149
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: this bullshit over here. But uh no movement over there.

1150
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah I noticed he didn't stand. Yeah, there we go. Okay, thanks,

1151
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 3: thanks for giving your all, guys.

1152
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, over to over under. Luke picked number

1153
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: three of okay bet this week?

1154
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: Where are you going?

1155
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 6: Uh?

1156
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 3: Okay, over under? I will pick number four, pick number four.

1157
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: I will go with this fight Cory Sanagan versus Chitto

1158
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 3: Vera going the distance. Here's why. Oh you can't double up,

1159
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: it's against our I didn't double up. I never picked

1160
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: anywhere I can go that. All right, all right, give

1161
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 3: me your give me your brick down here face. We

1162
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: should change your name to.

1163
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: Well, let's be honest. You can't be trusted about this

1164
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: segment because you don't care. So I have here, of course,

1165
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: these these walls.

1166
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: Why do you say I don't care? I care. I

1167
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 3: have receipts, you know I do have huh yeah, let's

1168
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: see it.

1169
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's give anch in here. Okay, can we go?

1170
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: Can we go screen for over under san Haagan? Cheeto

1171
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: goes the distance, yb see very simply. Cheeto excellent chance,

1172
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 4: Corey excellent hip.

1173
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a fair point. I think he's gonna get

1174
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: a stoppage. All right, let's see right, can we direct

1175
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: this properly?

1176
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 3: Can you get a camera on maniach camera on mine.

1177
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to go no headphones, no hat so

1178
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: we can fully try to figure this out. Okay, yes, yes, yeah,

1179
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: but how bad is it?

1180
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 3: It's not Let's do split screen there, Let's do splitz screen.

1181
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 3: Can we He's got to build it, all right? Mine?

1182
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: If you talk into that, do you have a microphone

1183
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: you can speak into this?

1184
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: I gotta say, you look like a combination. Hold on,

1185
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 3: go back, go back, go back, uh gaff, go back,

1186
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: go back to the No no no, no, no no, go

1187
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: back to the split screen you had where it was

1188
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 3: Corey on one side and then it was Shack and

1189
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: Corey Sandhagen. Okay, look it looks Corey our Corey looks

1190
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: like Shaq and Corey Sandagan had a kid.

1191
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, a Colorado Persian sensation.

1192
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: Can you look like you're you get low eye, hang

1193
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 3: on mouth breathing a little bit? There, can you doom

1194
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 3: me on Manicha. We can truly go split screen here.

1195
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: I think this is novel to god. It looks like

1196
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: Horry san Hagen and Shaq banged.

1197
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: All right, all right, thank you man age many time.

1198
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 3: I know you and I know you hated that. Yeah

1199
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: a little bit. I'm glad we interrupted the show for

1200
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: your fuck fuck games.

1201
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: Hey, you were the one who made the fuck fuck

1202
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: I was alright, Luke, you went over under there and

1203
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: my pick for over under. Hey, I'm gonna go to

1204
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: that ESPN top ranked main event, and this is a

1205
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: good one with Jose Ramrez back at one hundred and

1206
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: forty pounds against Richard call me me, Luke. We know

1207
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: Richard Comey has become at thirty six like the tough

1208
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: out for the elite names. Ramerez looked really good against

1209
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: Padraza and his comeback fight. I thought I'm gonna take

1210
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: an over under of this fight to go the distance.

1211
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: Ramerez does not have fight ending power. He's a volume puncher.

1212
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: He gets inside. I think he'll win this fight comfortably,

1213
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: but it's gonna go the distance and I'm gonna catch

1214
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: up to you based on this pack.

1215
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: All right for enough and then last but not least,

1216
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: for Ko sub I'm gonna go Vinisia Salvador U and

1217
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: versus Victor Altamirano. It's gonna end in KO or TK.

1218
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna take the KO ending for Cheety No Good,

1219
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: Juny and and Jikawani versus Albert Deraiev and I think

1220
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win that too, And Luke, my bonus pick

1221
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: to even things out is I'm just gonna pick to

1222
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: win here Jesus Ramos.

1223
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: Don't miss the co.

1224
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: Feature very good showtime pay per view undercard, but two

1225
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: unbeaten one hundred and fifty four pound prospects are gonna

1226
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: meet against one another, the power punching Hayesus Ramos against

1227
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: of course, Joey Spencer. I'm gonna take Ramos to win, Luke,

1228
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: and if you want to double down on that, I'm

1229
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,959
Speaker 1: gonna take a boy kyo. All right, So that's gonna

1230
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: be my bonus pick for Okay, bet Luke. Let's continue

1231
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: the show now with topic two. Paulo Coasta. Okay, well,

1232
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: I guess we'll go this to here we.

1233
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: Go about topic three. Actually, no topic one was you

1234
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: see as it's listed here. This is clearly topic three. Yeah,

1235
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: but then I merged two into one. Right, it's still

1236
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: topic three. Just move through it.

1237
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: Well, if you put two into one, then that becomes two.

1238
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, this is right, but it's listed topic three here,

1239
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: just right. But we freestyled shit that's labeled here. This

1240
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: is what they go by.

1241
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: They don't go by like your impromptu reclassification.

1242
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: They don't insufferable would be the jective I'm looking at.

1243
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: That's clearly looking at.

1244
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: Hey, Paulo Coaster of the UFC, he's gonna he's back,

1245
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: He's he's three signed with the Protocean. We saw some

1246
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: back and forth of whether he would exercise his free agency.

1247
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: He talked about his new deal with PVT.

1248
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: What is that? That is the outlet who broke the news.

1249
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: It's a Brazilian one. Okay, I'm thinking p YT pretty

1250
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: young thing, right, uh, pretty young thing. I just want

1251
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 3: to love you, PETI.

1252
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: I haven't signed the contract yet, but we have reached

1253
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: the deal with the UFC. Regarding pay, Coasta said, it

1254
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: wasn't easy. There was a lot of hard work, and

1255
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: I have to highlight Tomorrow's brilliant work here.

1256
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: Who's tomorrow beats the fun out of me?

1257
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to g we put this information toge Okay,

1258
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: I want that too, he says. Of fighting Hamza and

1259
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: Strickland in twenty twenty three, Costa said, facing them both

1260
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: back to back would be the ideal plan. The UFC

1261
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: wants to make sure the Chamaya fight happens at all costs,

1262
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: Coasta said, and I want to make both fight happen both.

1263
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Does that happen both this year for Costa, Sean Strickland

1264
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: and Hamsa.

1265
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: I think it might. I think it might. Costa did

1266
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 3: what I think is the most rational thing for a

1267
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 3: contender of his status to do. The reality is, if

1268
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 3: you're Francis in Ganu and maybe you could get a

1269
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 3: Deontay Wilder fight, maybe you get a Tyson Fury fight.

1270
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that in just a minute. Because Fury

1271
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: in USIC has gone up in smoke, then maybe you

1272
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: want to go do that, or Nate Diz go get

1273
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: a boxing fight and whatever. But with all these guys

1274
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: are going to realize them if they don't already. I'm sure.

1275
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure their managers do the best money they can

1276
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 3: get in a monopolized market, is still going to be

1277
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: with the UFC in general, not for everyone, but certainly

1278
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 3: in a PA or by review guy like this, not

1279
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: out a headliner, but on the main card kind of guy.

1280
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: So what he did was he probably went and got

1281
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 3: other offers and then got re signed, or even through

1282
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: the new exclusive negotiating period, was able to leverage a

1283
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: little bit more out of it given what the open

1284
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: market might bear for him to then go back to

1285
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: the UFC and get a higher amount. I think that's

1286
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 3: probably ended up what happened, and that's the most rational

1287
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 3: course for someone I think of his stature and potential future.

1288
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 3: It's a signing that makes sense for all the parties.

1289
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 3: He wants to stay active. Everyone wants to see Coasta

1290
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 3: versus hamsat or. You know, I don't think people would

1291
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 3: scoff at Coasta versus Strickland. It's a good signing.

1292
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 8: Sure.

1293
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: Here's the key question though, has he fully transitioned to

1294
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: exciting opponent for big names or is there still a

1295
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: window where he could make a run as a title

1296
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: contender he.

1297
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: Would have to after the is he lost? I think

1298
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 3: people were like, oh right, he's a bit of a

1299
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 3: he's good, he's dangerous, but what else is he? And

1300
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: remember Vittori beat him too, right, So.

1301
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bad los And that's not a bad loss.

1302
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: That was you know, it was a close fight for

1303
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: Toy's you know, he's a big dude. I'm just saying

1304
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: he should have won that if he really was what

1305
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: I just asked you.

1306
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 3: He still is, so he's going to have to beat

1307
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: someone along the way to restore that confidence.

1308
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: But look, he makes fun of I mean, look that

1309
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: fight with him and Yuel is one of my favorite

1310
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: fights in UFC is it's one of the craziest. That

1311
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: first round is just it's sex, It's shick. The real

1312
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: topic number three here, Luke, is something that is going

1313
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: to get me very the hell excited. Dustin Pourier, fresh

1314
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: off the All Action win over Michael Chandler, in questions

1315
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: of whether he would go back into the pool there

1316
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: of potential UFC lightweight title challengers or just make can't

1317
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: miss absolutely awesome action fights against other absolutely awesome action fighters.

1318
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: Luke and the history of absolutely awesome action fights at

1319
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: lightweight over recent years, which covered so many great names

1320
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: from Alvarez, RDA Gaiche Chandler Poitier. The best matchup ever

1321
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: together was.

1322
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: Pier Gochee.

1323
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Yes, and guess what, Dustin Poorier likes the idea of

1324
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,479
Speaker 1: doing that a second time. He talked to fan side

1325
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: to THEMMA and said, it's a fight that makes me nervous.

1326
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: When I hear a name and I get nervous.

1327
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: It's motivation.

1328
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: Same thing with Chandler. When I heard Chandler's name when

1329
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: they called it, I was nervous because I knew the

1330
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: dangers of those kinds of fights, and that's what motivates me.

1331
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: Same thing with Justin. If they call me and he's

1332
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: the name, they say, maybe we'll make it happen. We'll

1333
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: see jus give me that New York City call main event.

1334
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah? What do you make of Poorier wanting this fight?

1335
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 3: Why would he want this fight? He's already beaten this guy.

1336
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: Does he have intel that he's not potentially next at

1337
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: the lightweight title or does he not want to potentially

1338
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: fight the current lightweight champion knowing what might happen.

1339
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 3: I'm asking you seriously, I definitely think he wants the

1340
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 3: Islam fight just just because it's a chance to fight

1341
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 3: for the title. Right If nothing.

1342
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not questioning if he's about that life.

1343
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, i'bo'd to say that's not fair.

1344
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: Does he feel like it's not next? So let's stay busy,

1345
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: make money, and you know, and.

1346
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 3: Also Justin has a big name. I think he wants

1347
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: to fight big name guys, the people that fit the

1348
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: fights that the fans care about. He does have seemed

1349
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 3: to have his finger on the pulse about that. Their

1350
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 3: first one was so good. But also like remember that

1351
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: is pre two point zero Justin Gaechee. That is Justin geigee,

1352
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: still fighting on that old world series of fighting style.

1353
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: That's just not really who he is. I mean, still

1354
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 3: some of that guy, but obviously we know he's made

1355
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: leaps and bounds in terms of technical progression. That's a

1356
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: different fight this time. And that last one, by the way,

1357
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: was three round excuse me, was five rounds I believe,

1358
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: And so you would want to do this one five

1359
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 3: rounds as well. So you're saying as a comain, I

1360
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: don't know how I feel about it.

1361
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes they put five round non titled Coleman.

1362
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: Just for shit sotime that I'm just saying, I wouldn't

1363
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: want to interrupt that process, However, they want to make

1364
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 3: it happen. So I like the fight. It's an interesting

1365
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: choice by Dustin for the reasons you articulated. Maybe it

1366
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: feel like he has to get one more. Maybe it's

1367
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: a big name, who knows, but it's a different fight

1368
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 3: this time. It's a blood and guts fight no matter

1369
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: what count me in. I like the idea.

1370
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: Do you want to see fights like this just be

1371
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: pay per view main events because they can be.

1372
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 3: It's not big enough for a pay per view main event.

1373
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 3: Rashod versus Rampage was they had just come off the

1374
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: most highly rated season of The Ultimate Fight.

1375
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: Oh that was a Kimbos season shop Season two?

1376
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 3: That's no.

1377
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,479
Speaker 1: Season ten wasn't shop in the Kimbos season?

1378
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: Yes with Matre. Season ten. Isn't that the season where

1379
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: Rampage broke a door against Rushot? Yes? Ten? Yeah, that's

1380
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: what I said. Oh I said season two? No, I

1381
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: didn't say season nothing. I said same season like too.

1382
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yes.

1383
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: Look, we already talked about Dana White still having hopes

1384
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: for Zoofo boxing.

1385
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: You don't care about that, right? I just find it baffling.

1386
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, by federal law, there have to be

1387
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 3: independent rankings. The promoter in boxing, by law, is not

1388
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: allowed to keep the title they have. They have, they

1389
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: have ALI Act protections by law. What on earth about

1390
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: the UFC's business model works with any of.

1391
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: It unless they're and here, First of all, here's the

1392
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: quote to the Sports Business Journal. I don't know if

1393
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: I can fix the sport, but I think I can

1394
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: put on fights that the people want to see, and

1395
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,479
Speaker 1: I can make boxing interesting again and build a brand

1396
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: around it.

1397
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: End quote.

1398
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: Danny you said this five years ago and three years ago, and.

1399
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: Saying this, he's saying this off of the week where

1400
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 3: he lost his champion.

1401
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: Like if unless he's the one that could we're gonna

1402
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: talk about Fury and Usic like next. But unless he's

1403
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: the one that could come in there and bring all

1404
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: parties together and get everybody happy and save it and say, hey,

1405
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: we'll just distribute, distribute it, like what if he if

1406
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: this is more about an overarching put your fights on

1407
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: UFC five pass, They're already boxing promotions that do that, correct,

1408
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 1: So if it's something to that degree, could they ever

1409
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: put a big fight? But the problem is nobody's like

1410
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: independent free agents. Everybody worth assault for the most part,

1411
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: is tied to a network and a promotion. So unless

1412
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna come in and directly partner with somebody, unless

1413
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna, you know, say, when Top Ranks deals up

1414
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: with ESPN, you know, come come, you know, will distribute everything,

1415
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen either. So I don't I don't

1416
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: know unless. But here's what he should be doing is,

1417
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: and I've said this before, what he should be doing

1418
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: is taking all his retired UFC fighters that want to

1419
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: make money in boxing and just running that propce.

1420
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 3: So there's that. So what I was thinking was, could

1421
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 3: you do something between boxing and between the Jake Paul

1422
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 3: model where you find someone who's not really a world

1423
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: beater and never going to be a world champion, but

1424
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 3: have built build them up on fight pass, have them

1425
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: fight UFC fighters along the way to build up their name,

1426
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: and then occasionally cash in on a on a big

1427
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: fight through building these guys up the whole way, and

1428
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: then right like, could you have individual performances or individual

1429
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: fights and fighters that you promote along the way and

1430
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 3: make some money. Probably, but I just don't know how

1431
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: it's going to be anything more than that. The reason

1432
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 3: that the UFC model works the way that it does

1433
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: is because it lacks any laws that boxing demands. How

1434
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: the fuck do you make that work? You can't they

1435
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 3: they own their own title, they own ther own rankings.

1436
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 3: It's and you utterly different regulatory environment.

1437
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: You can't make a splash in the current state of

1438
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: network's promotions and all that unless you're willing to lose

1439
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: a ridiculous amount.

1440
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: Of me it wants to burn money. I don't quite

1441
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 3: get that either. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying if

1442
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: you talk to if you talk to people in the

1443
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 3: boxing world about Dana White potentially getting involved, Here's what

1444
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 3: I've noticed. They're not really against it. People in the

1445
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 3: boxing world. They don't seem to find that that's a

1446
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 3: bad idea. They've kind of welcome. Hey, another promoter coming

1447
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 3: through could make things interesting. Obviously they've had a lot

1448
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: of success with the UFC. But then when you begin

1449
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: to ask the specific questions about how they're going to

1450
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 3: operate a given the way that they operate already in MMA,

1451
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: which is completely different by law, and then be to

1452
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: your point, everyone that matters is under lock and key,

1453
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: at least for right now. What is the reasonable path

1454
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: to doing something meaningful in the space. There are some lanes,

1455
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 3: but they're just not very pronounced ones. That's what makes

1456
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 3: it interesting. Yeah, it's it's weird.

1457
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: Luke boxing is the biggest story that broke out is

1458
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: totally hashtag boxing. That's what happens when great fight get

1459
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: basically announced and then they don't happen.

1460
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: I had a lot of things to say about this.

1461
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury Alexander Usik all four world titles, two unbeaten,

1462
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: like all time great champions here. You know Usik for

1463
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: what he did in cruiserweight mix with heavyweight in the

1464
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: Olympic gold medal, and Tyson Fury being the dominant heavyweight

1465
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 1: of this era even though he has yet to fit

1466
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: face and defeat every single one, this fight seemed like

1467
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: an absolute no brainer promotionally in network wise. And then

1468
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: you had Tyson Fury forcing Usik to take a seventy

1469
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: thirty financial split and accepting that even though Usik is

1470
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: unbeaten too has three world titles as opposed to one

1471
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: for Fury, and you know, okay, no, he's not the

1472
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: marketing sensation Fury is, but critically few better in this

1473
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: world pound for pound that got accepted but then Luke

1474
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: rematch negotiations got to the point where Fury began to

1475
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: demand everything related to the rematch and wanted the same control,

1476
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: meaning seventy thirty splits in control over everything. Finally US

1477
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: sixteen appeared to walk away and say like this is

1478
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: too much? How much more can we give you? Do

1479
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: you actually want this fight?

1480
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 3: Well?

1481
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury put out a video on Instagram to answer that.

1482
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 8: Useek, you little shit house, you prop a little shit bag,

1483
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 8: bogg eye, gappy teeth, ugly, little rat bastard, You little

1484
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 8: slimy fucker tried all wait to get out of it,

1485
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 8: begging for a rematch like a little girl. You got

1486
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 8: your RMAPs and didn't even want to fight at that,

1487
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 8: your little shit house pussy.

1488
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: Always know pussy that he was.

1489
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 8: Never man enough to tangle with a Gypsy king ever

1490
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 8: in your life, you little shitouse, you little fourteen stone coward,

1491
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 8: you little ship bag, your rat little bastard, and your

1492
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 8: full team now as well, and all the lawyers have

1493
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 8: got a full information, you little ugly bastard. Keep running

1494
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 8: fight you bought at a cop of box now, shit bag,

1495
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 8: and always know that you or anybody else like you

1496
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 8: could never tangle with a gypsy king shit housetuffle, coward,

1497
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:02,959
Speaker 8: yell prak.

1498
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 3: You know he doesn't do it in this video, but

1499
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: he always calls his opponents like breakfast foods. It's like

1500
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 3: you little sausage, yeah, you little woffle. So, Luke, here's

1501
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: the deal.

1502
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: You know, I've read every commentary you can, all the

1503
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: different people who are breaking news on this, Dan Rayphiel.

1504
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: That fight freaks unight. What the fuck they're saying up, Luke?

1505
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel appear in every category here, like the

1506
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: USIK team more or less was willing to take the

1507
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: knee and basically everything until the point that it got ridiculous.

1508
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: What was my fear going back six nine months ever

1509
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: since USIK beat Joshua the second time, that Fury would

1510
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: do the song and dance and not end up taking

1511
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: the fight, or he would do WWE or do Gananu,

1512
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: but constantly go, you know, back and forth with I'm

1513
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: retired today, I'm not tomorrow. And then he took a

1514
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, tried to rush in AJ fight, which never

1515
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: he never really seemed all that serious and doing. And

1516
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: why would AJ rush back after a loss to USI? Right,

1517
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, he needs time, new trainer, all that, and

1518
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: then fights on pay per view Derek Chosaura for a

1519
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: third time. But then we go, okay, but that's fine.

1520
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: Usik was hurt just a little bit, had to extend

1521
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: to March in terms of availability. Maybe Fury just wanted

1522
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: a big payday and get himself all fired up for

1523
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: the fight. That Chosaura fight was completely unnecessary after he

1524
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: had two wins over it. And this is obviously a

1525
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: much more faded version of Gesra. But Luke, all along

1526
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: eyed people from the UK and all around, go and

1527
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: see you're being too harsh. He wants this fight. You'll

1528
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: see You'll fight anybody anytime except for Usk.

1529
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 3: Why.

1530
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: I think because at the end of the day, Fury

1531
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: knows that his combination of toughness, size, unique skills, pure

1532
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: boxing ability, being a genius, being a natural brawler, if

1533
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: he has to can beat almost every other heavyweight on

1534
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: this planet. I think he's somewhat unsure about Usik, and

1535
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: I think it's playing out in front of us right

1536
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: now that unless he gets one hundred percent control of

1537
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: the Pie and Luke, you can argue, isn't that what

1538
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: tanks trying to do to Ryan in some of.

1539
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 3: These stipulations to some degrees.

1540
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: Yes, he's exercising, is a side part of it, but

1541
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: it's just for the undisputed heavyweight championship. And the guy

1542
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: who has more titles than you said, Yeah, i'll take

1543
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: the thirty percent, I'll take the bad bake up. Let's

1544
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: just do this thing. But now we're haggling over a rematch.

1545
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: Who's right who's wrong. I don't think Fury wants the fight,

1546
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: and I think I've been right since the beginning on this.

1547
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't look like to me he really wants

1548
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 3: it all that much.

1549
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: It's disappointing as shit.

1550
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 3: It is disappointing as shit. I was never I never

1551
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 3: had high confidence in it. You more so? Did you

1552
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 3: got what you got? You got way too excited for

1553
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: it before.

1554
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: Well, I tak it reported as you know, I mean,

1555
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: coppingers all over the place sometimes.

1556
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 3: But it got reported as it did. It did, and

1557
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: they've been close. They had been close to times, it

1558
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: turns out. But listen, every time I talk to one

1559
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 3: of these boxers who like either whether it's a tank

1560
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 3: or a Garcia or that's yesterday with plant Benavidez. When

1561
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 3: you talk to the guys who are willing to take

1562
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 3: on the tougher fights, the bigger matchups, not that tests

1563
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 3: and Fury hasn't. I mean, he's made some big ones,

1564
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 3: but when you find out it's like, at the end

1565
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 3: of the day, dude, if they don't want it, it's

1566
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 3: no matter how much money you throw at them, it's

1567
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: kind of hard to get him to do it. They

1568
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: have to internally, truly general just they must want it.

1569
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: They must want those matchups, those matchups must be coveted

1570
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: by them and what the winning confers upon them. Tyson

1571
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 3: just appears to be in a space where like he's

1572
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 3: willing to take these risks, only only on extreme Yeah.

1573
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: But I think it's even further than that, Like, do

1574
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: I think Tyson Fury is afraid of him physically? No,

1575
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: Fury would be favored to win, and to be fair,

1576
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: for Fury should win because he can't because he's an

1577
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: incredible boxer and whatever it was, he just doesn't really

1578
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: want it. It doesn't So do you think this is

1579
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: what I think he wants to do. I think he

1580
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: wants to knock out Joshua in front of ninety thousand

1581
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: people and then retire.

1582
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 3: Right or and then take on goofball shit after that. Maybe,

1583
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 3: so we have to criticize that. We have to.

1584
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the heavyweight of this generation. I've said it

1585
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: before and I'll say it again. If Tyson Fury goes

1586
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: on to clean out this era, meaning he already got

1587
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: Wilder three times and arguably won all three times. If

1588
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: he can get Joshua and do that, he'd beat Dillian

1589
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: White by knockout him. He's you know, beat Tyson Vieimer

1590
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: Klitschko to take the world titles. If he does that

1591
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: against Usik two, and he's favored to do so, he's

1592
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: going to be the heavyweight of this renaissance era. But

1593
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: because of his unbeaten record at that point, and his

1594
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: size and his ridiculous mixture of skills that is so

1595
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: unique it's absurd, you could make incredibly ambitious arguments of

1596
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: where he would belong in the top ten or even five,

1597
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 1: because who in history, size wise, skill wise can stand

1598
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: up to that if he doesn't clean out the era

1599
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: at the time. Should he care about history that much? Yeah,

1600
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: he put his whole life into this. He's already made

1601
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 1: a ton of money. He'd be favored to win against

1602
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: the smaller guy, then fight him, And why are we

1603
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, do you believe anything from that video?

1604
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 3: We only have the information we have. Is there any

1605
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 3: blame here on the USK side?

1606
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: Because I'm going full on, like Fury's calling him all

1607
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: those names just to try to distract people from what's

1608
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: really happening.

1609
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that Usik and all these negotiations,

1610
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 3: both of these guys are probably being divas. But if

1611
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: you really wanted to whatever a fight falls apart, usually

1612
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 3: it's one one side initiating. Again, the Bud Crawford side

1613
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 3: was the one that pulled out from the Spence negotiations

1614
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 3: so we could go take money with b olk Prime.

1615
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 3: How'd that go? And then on the other side again,

1616
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure Usik has made some demands like oh really,

1617
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 3: what the fuck? But it just looks like Tyson doesn't

1618
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 3: really want it, just doesn't really want it, just doesn't

1619
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 3: think it Jesus is worth the squeeze unless it's under

1620
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 3: extreme contractual conditions.

1621
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: But what other extreme conditional condition could they have? He's

1622
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: got a seventy percent split. There have been talks about

1623
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: going to the Middle East, where there's a ton of money.

1624
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: If you did that in a London Football Stadium, which

1625
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: is what we look like we were doing April twenty

1626
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: ninth when they kind of half announced that you're gonna sell,

1627
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, at ninety thousand tickets. I know, not at

1628
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: the same price we're used to in some case in

1629
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: the US. But like you're gonna what like you're gonna

1630
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: gain You're gonna be the un the four belt undisputed

1631
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: undefeated champion.

1632
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 3: Is that not it? Is that not a prize anymore?

1633
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 3: Is that not enough anymore? I guess it's not. Ye

1634
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 3: have to answer your question. Yeah, it's not clearly.

1635
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: Look, I understand when people are on the opposite side

1636
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: of networks and sometimes you get close, but you don't

1637
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: quite get there, and you always know at the end.

1638
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: Why there's nothing. I don't believe this holding his stuff?

1639
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 3: I mean, is he right?

1640
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's right. That is Usik saying I

1641
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: won't fight you in less there's a rematch.

1642
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 3: Yes? Is that confirmed? I mean that's what he's increasing affirmed.

1643
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 3: But he was the one pushing the rematch clause.

1644
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, how much let's be fully I mean, how

1645
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: much should we be pushing back on that?

1646
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 3: No? Not because a fury believes it's gonna beat him,

1647
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 3: then who cares? Just being standard practice. But that's the

1648
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 3: problem with boxing. It's becoming too all these rematch clauses.

1649
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 3: So on the one hand, he's not doing anything else

1650
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 3: that every other b side before him hasn't tried to do.

1651
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 3: On the other hand, it's so out of hand at

1652
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 3: this point, it's so out of control as a practice. Yes,

1653
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 3: that I can understand why people are like, man, fuck

1654
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 3: this just fucking fight the one deal.

1655
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: But at the same time, the split he's trying to

1656
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: that Fury's trying to get financially in the rematch if

1657
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: Usik has beaten him, like, Usik's not Rocky Balboa trying

1658
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,799
Speaker 1: to upset Apaulo Creed like he's the unbeaten UNIF champion

1659
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: after being the undisputed and champion a cruiseway. I know

1660
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: that marketing wise is not like you know, an overnight sensation,

1661
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: but like you're not talking to Joshua twice. Yeah, you're

1662
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: not talking about nobody here. I mean Olympic Old Moddley.

1663
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 3: Like, come on, I know, bro, it's the fan in

1664
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: you that's dying slowly, slowly.

1665
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: The co host and me too. Luke Well let's go

1666
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: to you know what, We'll get us excited. Fights on

1667
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: the horizon. You ready for this one, Luke May thirteenth,

1668
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: I want to get your pulse. D Rod Daniel Rodriguez

1669
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: see Rod's Ian Gary Yo.

1670
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 3: Step up, freaking war. That's a step up. He looked

1671
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 3: good in his last outing. Everyone said, is he the

1672
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 3: next big thing? Oh my, pa, pa pa. I've always

1673
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: I've said the same thing. Take your time, No need

1674
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 3: to rush this kid. He's young, he's with a great team,

1675
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 3: he's obviously talented. Let's match make him appropriately. This is

1676
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 3: a step up. I think it's a fair one. I

1677
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 3: like this fight a lot. I like it a lot.

1678
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: Me too, Me too.

1679
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm about this though. June third, UFC Fight Night, Middleweight

1680
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: main event. I like this one too, Brendan Allen versus

1681
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: Jack Herman. But I do want to stress again main event.

1682
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 1: Am I being a jerk here? I mean it's not

1683
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: a bad fight for the main event. I don't know

1684
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: if it's like that fulfilling, but as a fight.

1685
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 3: It's also interesting that like Jack arm Manson has now

1686
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 3: become a little bit of like, okay, are you really

1687
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 3: good at middleweight?

1688
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: Let's fight Jack and see where you're at. I mean,

1689
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good fight. I'm being an asshole,

1690
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: but at the same time it gives me those feels.

1691
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: When it was Anthony Smith Ryan's Span made event, you

1692
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: were like, you said, mussy, what what a what?

1693
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 3: Actually we thought about that and I didn't say, mussy,

1694
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 3: that's actually interesting, lie a lie. The real ones will

1695
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 3: find the footage. We'll find it. I would I listen

1696
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 3: If I'm wrong, I'll take the Elephants a right. We

1697
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 3: do dead wrongs every Friday's. But I'm gonna say this,

1698
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 3: Jack Romanson, huge fight for him. He really needs a

1699
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 3: win over a quality name, which I consider Brendan Allen

1700
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 3: who ran through Andre Mooneese in his last night. I

1701
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 3: couldn't believe that. I couldn't believe that that ran through

1702
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 3: it was competitive, but that he got the sub Oh

1703
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 3: my god, I couldn't believe that great fight like that one.

1704
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: Okay, is her Manson Allen as a main event better

1705
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: than I versus Calvio a recent one?

1706
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot better. Okay, how about Derek Lewis.

1707
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: Versus abdur Rakimov in Albany at that time?

1708
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 3: It's better than that. A lot better. I'll take that back.

1709
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: Hey, there's another Maga Medoff that might dominate mixed martial arts.

1710
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 3: You ready for this?

1711
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: Bellator has signed Olympic silver medalist twenty eight year old Russian.

1712
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: What's the first name here? Link?

1713
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: Kotty Kaddy Mago Medoff In the statue you'll need to

1714
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: know Lucas he I can't read unless I look.

1715
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 3: Going to read it. Yeah, I got I'm a twenty

1716
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 3: eight year old Russian. It's gonna make the transition while

1717
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 3: still hoping to make gold. In twenty twenty four, they

1718
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 3: said he was gonna make the featherweight division, but I

1719
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 3: had someone kind of hit me to this. He competed

1720
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 3: in the seventy four kilogram category in wrestling. I don't

1721
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 3: know how the hell he's gonna make featherweight. That must

1722
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 3: be a typo, but okay, either way, ABC, here's the deal.

1723
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 3: At the twenty twenty Olympic Games, he he I don't

1724
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,839
Speaker 3: know if he either tech falled him, but he blanked

1725
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 3: Kyle Dake eleven to nothing. Why is that important? Kyle Diake, folks,

1726
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 3: I remember watching this go through. Kyle Dak wrestled for Cornell.

1727
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 3: He is the only person in the history of NC

1728
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 3: double A wrestling. Not merely to win four national championships

1729
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 3: all four years in college. Other ones have done that.

1730
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 3: He did it in a different weight class every year.

1731
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 3: Every year he went up another weight class and won

1732
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 3: the NC Double A Division one national fucking title. And

1733
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 3: his senior year it was against David Taylor, who also

1734
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 3: ended up becoming ready for this and Olympic gold medalist.

1735
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 3: Like that, beat up a little nickel.

1736
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1737
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 3: He beat bon nicchol A on the way, didn't David

1738
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 3: Taylor beat bon Nickel on? Oh? They were well, they

1739
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 3: both wrestled for Penn State. I don't know what thought

1740
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 3: in the Olympic trialsers they might have been. Yes, that's right,

1741
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: David Taylor beat him ultimately, no my Olympics for the spot,

1742
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 3: I think for the spot on the world team. But

1743
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 3: either way, either way freestyle or greco in your legs

1744
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 3: freestyle freestyle.

1745
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 2: Uh.

1746
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 3: But anyway, Michael Madeoff blanked Kyle Dake eleven to nothing.

1747
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 3: Eleven to nothing. So we're not talking about some chump.

1748
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 3: We're talking about a highly decorated It says here he's

1749
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 3: gonna still juggling his MMA career. That's interesting. Yeah, you

1750
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 3: know how that goes I do and then one of

1751
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 3: them falls through and then they just go do MMA.

1752
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,799
Speaker 3: So we'll say, all right, well, Luke, remember Augusto Sakai.

1753
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: I remember that time we were in Miami for Floyd

1754
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: Logan and I was like, you were like trying to

1755
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: get me to close the show, and I was like,

1756
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: do we haven't even talked about Augusta Augusta and you

1757
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: like blow up and it's like a famous SoundBite, monk.

1758
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 3: So the theme of today's show is, hey, Luke, remember

1759
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 3: that time you did things that I found disappointing? Dude,

1760
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 3: I loved it.

1761
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: It's part of Doc number five, remember that with Brendan.

1762
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: That's a big moment.

1763
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm an Augusto Sekai Truther. I remember him

1764
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 3: from Belatore before he even went to UFC. Did he

1765
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 3: just cut ties with the UFC on like a two

1766
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 3: fight wind streak? He? I think he even filmed it

1767
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 3: for short notice on one his last one, and they

1768
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 3: were like, you know what, just fuck off? All right?

1769
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that happen since the wrestler guy for Weed.

1770
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: You know the bro, Oh Matt Mark met.

1771
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 3: The bro, didn't he wrestle the King of the Bros.

1772
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 3: That wasn't Yeah, yeah, yeah, what the guy's name.

1773
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: Everyone's screaming it right now on the screen like he

1774
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: washed pieces of crap.

1775
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: Matt, it's Matt. Yeah, I'll look it up. Thank you,

1776
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 3: God save us. Somebody's safe. Our brains are absolutely I

1777
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 3: appreciate that.

1778
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: Riddle, Matt Riddle. Thanks our producers for not jumping in there.

1779
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

1780
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, let's keep it going. Sakai is gone.

1781
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: Where's the end up PFL against something like that? All right,

1782
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Fabricio over Doom, by.

1783
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 3: The way, no longer under his PFL deal. What does

1784
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 3: that mean to you?

1785
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 1: Did he even fight in theF He did once and

1786
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: it was weird and then he got like then he

1787
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: have like a brain thing.

1788
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And they were like, dude, he's like nearly fifty,

1789
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 3: like Verdunham had a great combat sports career. But I

1790
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 3: think it should come to a close.

1791
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: And we're talking about Vai Cavalo, right, go horse, Yes,

1792
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: indeed through a boomerang that time.

1793
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: Hey, KSI is not going to come back against I

1794
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 3: don't know who he was possibly coming back.

1795
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna take on Joe Fournier, who is the guy

1796
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: that influencer that's friends with David Hay and then they

1797
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: had that really sketchy friendly sparring match the time on Triller.

1798
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: You don't care about this, Ko, even though ks I

1799
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: tweeted out a video making front of Jake Paul yesterday

1800
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: that opened with you interviewing Jake Paul.

1801
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: Did you see that? No? I didn't. I texted you thing.

1802
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 3: You responded, so you did see it, Luke, No, I

1803
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 3: just said that it's great without even looking at it.

1804
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 3: It's such an asshole that's You're like, that's great. I

1805
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 3: don't know. I think I wrote the word sweet. It's

1806
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 3: like that great. I don't wondre Okay, that's all we

1807
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 3: got here.

1808
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: But Luke, when we're talking about getting yourself all pretty

1809
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: for today's way in stream, it's not just the hair,

1810
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: the face, the makeup, Thank you, Courtney. Sometimes it's what's

1811
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Speaker 3: BC. You don't know shit about growing a beard.

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Speaker 1: the downstairs trimmer. But now that you use that on

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Speaker 1: your face. But now they send a full package to

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Speaker 1: me of the whole beard line. I'm thinking about making

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Speaker 1: a loop, Thomas run.

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Speaker 3: Out of this. What do you think? Uh? Good luck,

1829
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 3: good luck.

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Speaker 1: Every time I want to do something new in my

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01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: life feel like it's not as you use it looks specie.

1832
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: It just always seems like you're trying things long after

1833
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 3: I've discovered how difficult they are, and then you have

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Speaker 3: No one likes a weird beard, So thinking about all

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Speaker 1: a juggernaut of fixing your face. First off, this cordless

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1843
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Speaker 3: That's nice, all with one guard, so no more.

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Speaker 1: a time. B See that's my kind of way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They got the beard Shampoon conditioner. I use it in

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Speaker 1: the shower. Luke makes your hair feel different.

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Speaker 3: Your beard hair is different than your face hair. People

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Speaker 3: don't realize. That's why you have to have oil for it.

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Speaker 3: And that's why this kit.

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01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: Luke has made shampoo conditioners specially designed to moisturize, reduce

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Speaker 1: All right, We close every Friday by you know, coming

1879
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: clean and saying, look, we were wrong. Was I wrong

1880
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: when I came in demanded Ashley to get me coffee

1881
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: this morning?

1882
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 3: Maybe? No, that was right? She was just too busy

1883
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 3: on TikTok.

1884
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: We offer you an email address if you have a

1885
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: problem with something we said, It's Morning Combat at gmail

1886
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: dot com. Sometimes, Luke, we take l's I did I'm

1887
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Speaker 1: sure I'm about to This one's called did wrong have

1888
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Speaker 1: a receipt?

1889
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 3: Bitch?

1890
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 7: Not.

1891
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 3: I'm about to take an all. I'm about to take a.

1892
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: Dump in my dungle, e in my dungarees. Okay, this

1893
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: is Jordie coming in. He's coming in at meet Luke,

1894
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: all right, good night from Sydney. At approximately twenty eight

1895
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: minutes of episode four to twenty one of MK, mister

1896
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: BC with the BDE may want to check his CTE

1897
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 1: as he claims Kelvin Gasolom fought a close five round

1898
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: decision loss to.

1899
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 3: Our previous Was you talking about Darren till.

1900
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: And soon to be I'll get to that second soon

1901
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: to be future champ Robert Whittaker. You may want to

1902
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: run this back because KG got the ship beat out

1903
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: of him by Whittaker in a masterclass. No bias from

1904
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: an aussee and not suggesting you watch it another forty

1905
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: nine times like LT.

1906
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: But you're dead wrong. It wasn't close at all.

1907
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take a like a three fourths or nine

1908
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: tenths l here, Luke, he did lose fifty to forty

1909
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 1: five across the board. I wasn't trying to suggest that

1910
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: it was an overly close to check the l okay,

1911
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm taking the l here. Was I more likely the

1912
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: Till fighter the Canon Near fight, which were closer. Yes,

1913
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,839
Speaker 1: maybe I'm blending that, but he did land shots against Whittaker,

1914
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: and his chin to be able to take those shots

1915
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: was top shelf. And I never felt like, I mean,

1916
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: do you look back and go? He got pissed on.

1917
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: I felt like he stood up to maybe the best

1918
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: guy in the division and showed so. Yes, in hindsight,

1919
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: it was fifty forty five, and I know numbers wise,

1920
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: he got dominated again.

1921
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 3: Clearly wit was clearly better.

1922
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: It is all part of the theme though, that that

1923
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 1: Gasoline may never be better than that one night he was.

1924
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: But he comes close sometimes and he's not as bad

1925
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: as people think. His record indicates that he is.

1926
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 3: Luke.

1927
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: He fights with horror. All right, Let's go to the

1928
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: second one, Luke. This is from Josh Wednesday show. Luke

1929
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: called Valentino the only champion women's flyweight has ever seen

1930
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: what grosso? Can we put some damn respect on Nico

1931
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: Montango's name.

1932
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 3: Up to that point? Oh Nico, Oh my god, oh

1933
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 3: my god, history as the inaugural women's flyweight. Yea, Luke,

1934
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 3: you're dead wrong, says yeah, you're right. I am, and

1935
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 3: I'll take that olt. Jesus dude. I literally I'm not

1936
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 3: going to do a bit. I completely forgot.

1937
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh and a good fellow named Gusto wrote in

1938
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: with that, right, fair you THINKU Justeo's Brazilian? Does that

1939
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: mean he automatically go has a black belt with Nogatt Brothers.

1940
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 3: That was some secondhand jail right there. But did you

1941
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 3: think that? All right?

1942
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: You know, all right, you know this is our last podcast.

1943
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: It's with each other, not against one each other. But

1944
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, Luke, we should we should have a w

1945
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: c W and Monday Night Raw like Monday Night War

1946
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: rivalries with our live chats, just head to head, constantly

1947
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: recruiting each other's audience to come on over, like you know,

1948
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: be like, don't I know what Luke's gonna talk about today?

1949
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 3: Don't log in?

1950
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 1: I got this and constantly one up in each other

1951
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: with guests with like you know with props, you know.

1952
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 3: What I mean, and slander. I don't think you want

1953
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 3: that smoke.

1954
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: The thing is, Luke, I live, and I think at

1955
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: the end of the day you got a little tyson

1956
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: fury and you're right now, at the end of the day,

1957
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: you smell this Usik coming on.

1958
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 3: You little bacon and eggs.

1959
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep up the l's here. This one's

1960
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: from Mike Owens. That's phones media, right, Yeah, what the

1961
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 1: fuck guy?

1962
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 3: Hey, Luke and.

1963
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,919
Speaker 1: BC it's Mike Owens here on. That's the guy from Liverpool.

1964
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 3: We love that guy.

1965
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,560
Speaker 1: On Wednesday show, BC said Canelo became undisputed champ with

1966
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 1: three straight Let's we got another Mike Owens as a fan.

1967
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 3: Probably not right. He says that Canelo became on the

1968
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 3: speed champ with.

1969
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 1: Three straight knockouts against unbeaten champions in unification fights. This

1970
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,480
Speaker 1: is dead wrong, as Canelo defeated Calm Smith via unanimous

1971
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: decision to beat the Shadows right Smith, So Mike Owens

1972
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: media says Smith is a scouser and I had to

1973
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 1: flag that in respect of my fellow Liverpoodlian.

1974
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was punching Smith's arms. The dude was completely

1975
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 3: over overmatched to turn out.

1976
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: Now, how do you feel about Mike Ohens thrown in

1977
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 1: his own plug here at the end.

1978
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 3: FYI.

1979
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,839
Speaker 1: My new podcast with Rob Fonk called The font Forecast,

1980
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: launches on Fight Week to eighty seven, and Rob's returned

1981
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: to the cage against Janes.

1982
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 3: All right, we can give him a plug. He's been nice.

1983
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 3: He's a great kid, that guy.

1984
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, there you go. Let's go over to Micah.

1985
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: Hey dipshit. At three point fifty two of Monday's episode,

1986
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: Brian refers to John Cougar Mellencamp's song as Cherry Bomb

1987
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: every real nineties g No, it was called Jack and Diane.

1988
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 3: Which Jack doing best?

1989
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: They can't insults aside, You guys are my favorite MMMA

1990
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: podcast Donks for life. It's Micah. I thought he was

1991
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: gonna dead. Wrong man still calling him Cougar.

1992
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 3: When did he drop that? I never know the answer.

1993
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: I think that was early nine because he was Johnny

1994
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: Cougar in the beginning and his album sucked like he

1995
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: was need not live up to the reputation that they

1996
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: thought expectations. But then he didn't want to be called

1997
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: Cougar because it was bullshit. He wanted to be, so

1998
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: he added the three name thing and he took off,

1999
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 1: and then he finally dropped the cougar. Luke, she should

2000
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: have kept the cougars around, if you know, I bet

2001
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: you he did.

2002
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 3: I bet you, I bet you. He was a story

2003
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 3: the bassist Michelle and diggiocho. Yes.

2004
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: It was a cover of Van Morrison's Wild Night and

2005
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: was a wild great great. Yeah, she plays a killer baseline.

2006
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 3: She's really good. What happened to her? I don't know.

2007
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 3: Maybe she's around.

2008
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: So you must have been singing lyrics from Jack and

2009
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: Diane and I called it Jerry bomb. That's fine, you know,

2010
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 1: because but Luke, Yeah, yeah, that is to taste the freeze. Yeah,

2011
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of you.

2012
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 3: Know, because that's why I smoke. That's a smoove. Yeah.

2013
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: And in dancing it was everything, you know. Look, we

2014
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:10,759
Speaker 1: were young, but we were improving and not anymore anymore.

2015
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's go our finally to Jordan Luke. Either

2016
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: your brain is withering away and vape juice. That's true,

2017
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 1: or you had some delta eights for episode four twenty.

2018
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 1: That's probably also true. And actually I know I didn't.

2019
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: I didn't so it's probably just my brain doesn't work yet.

2020
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 1: But at forty four minutes, in referencing Ballah Mohammed's win streak,

2021
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: you mentioned a number seven, Jeff Thompson, a number nine,

2022
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: Sean Brady in a number ten, Vicente Luke.

2023
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 3: Who is Jeff Thompson? I said, Jeff Thompson.

2024
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: Guessing you meant wonder Boy because Jeff Neil is actually

2025
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 1: Blall's last loss.

2026
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome. Yeah, he's right. My brain simply does

2027
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 3: not work it, Jordan says, Mahalo.

2028
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: That means he lives over there with telvind Ky Papa,

2029
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: I think he might, and Governor Penn over there at

2030
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: the lava Shack.

2031
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 3: Governor Pen, we should.

2032
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: Write a song about the lava Shack in the vein

2033
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: of Cougar Melancan.

2034
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 3: No, we need to go to Hawaii and then visit

2035
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 3: the lava Shack, and then you and I can fist

2036
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 3: fight in the parking lot. That's pretty brilliant.

2037
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: This has been Morning Combat, and we want to remind

2038
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: you that today four pm Eastern one pm Pacific on

2039
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,560
Speaker 1: the Showtime Sports YouTube channel. Behind us here at the

2040
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: Cough Theater MGM, Grand Las Vegas, it will be the

2041
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: waigh in Wow for all things David Benavidez versus Caleb

2042
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: plan of course, that goes down Showtime pay per view

2043
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 1: Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden nine pm Eastern,

2044
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: six Pacific. You can purchase the pay per view right

2045
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 1: now at showtime dot Com, slash PPV and Luke Seriously,

2046
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: what are your expectations for the final face off when

2047
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: the two step on the scales?

2048
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,759
Speaker 3: Here? Can't wait? Both of these guys are professional, truly,

2049
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 3: I really believe both are dialed in. I also think

2050
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 3: they want to sell this pay per view a little bit. Yeah,

2051
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 3: They're gonna need to have up someone in the middle

2052
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 3: of them. I think today I'll be that be that

2053
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 3: kind of event.

2054
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: We will have l Diamante, the former junior middleweight World

2055
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Champion of the World. Raoul Mark is by our side.

2056
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: We will have middleweight champion Jermwal Charlie. I want to

2057
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: ask him myself, are you moving up to six eight?

2058
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: Are you taking on the winner? That would fire you up?

2059
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 3: It will fire me at big time. Don't miss that.

2060
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: And one final plug for Saturday before the start of

2061
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 1: the pay per view at nine pm. I don't think

2062
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: I know the start time of this still, does anybody

2063
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: know what time we start the Showtime Boxing Countdown? We

2064
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: will have two live fights. Luke, Thomas and BC here

2065
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: will be on the call six pm, we believe, Eastern

2066
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: Time on the Showtime Sports YouTube channel. But once again,

2067
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: I want to give a heavy tease. We have a

2068
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: special guest that you're not gonna believe.

2069
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 3: You're believe. There's nothing we could say to make you

2070
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 3: believe what it is, but it's real.

2071
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: It's not gonna freaking believe it. Wow, seven pm Eastern Time, Saturday.

2072
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: Thank you gues seven pm Eastern Showtime Sports YouTube. Luke,

2073
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: It's been a hell of a Friday show, but we

2074
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: made it. We landed the plane. And you know, like

2075
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 1: Sully Sullenberger, do you think he has dirty secrets and

2076
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: we just covered up because he saved all those people.

2077
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 3: I don't know, does he have a women's first name?

2078
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 3: Sullivan first name? Isn't it? What? What's this cause?

2079
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 1: Somebody looked at I mean, we got we got a

2080
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: lot of people sitting around on their phone. Somebody look

2081
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 1: up Sully's first name in real life?

2082
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 3: Thank you? I mean I think it's I think it's

2083
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 3: biggest names don't have to be gender specific, Luke, I

2084
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 3: think it's biggest dickas.

2085
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, Arieljwane has a new show on Showtime

2086
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: Basketball debuting today, The Ariel Hawane Basketball Show. So a

2087
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit of crossover pub right there

2088
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: for the extended team.

2089
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 3: Did we figure it out? Guys, Chesley Chesley, Chesley, ches

2090
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 3: Lee Sullenberger. Yeah, I thought it was Chelsea.

2091
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: You know it's Chesley, all right, Well that's kind of manly,

2092
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 1: right in a weird ones ches Lee like, hey mom,

2093
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: here's my date.

2094
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 3: It's Chesley.

2095
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I would put a tea in there, Chesley,

2096
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 1: and then I'd have Bolo Mohammed sized.

2097
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 3: Pecks, right, just just absolute man pecks.

2098
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: If I had man pecks like Blohm Mohammed, I wouldn't

2099
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: be focusing on code on Covington as much as I'd

2100
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: be just walking around shirtless all day.

2101
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 3: Right, put a nipple ring in there, like a real weirdo, like.

2102
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: A proper weirdo, like like Jay Aaron's uh talk cooking segments.

2103
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 3: Right, Jay, you put the camera on me. Put the

2104
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 3: camera on me. They're not gonna do it. They'll ever

2105
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 3: go Jake, It's time to stop just set your phone

2106
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 3: on fire, go and go live a normal life. It's

2107
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 3: never gonna happen for you.

2108
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh come on, you don't like this Pennington James

2109
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 1: pivot into TikTok cooking influencer.

2110
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 3: Why is he talking like we gotta like he moves

2111
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 3: furniture for a living.

2112
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 1: Will you agree to my watch along idea where we

2113
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: just watch his entire volume of youtub I love that idea.

2114
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 3: Listen what you guys gotta do here? Eh? You gotta

2115
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 3: put a little seasoning on the chicken by this specialty oven.

2116
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 3: It's like ten thousand dollars everybody can affording. You know

2117
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Lick my balls, lick my balls up

2118
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 3: in there. You put the seasoning on the chicken, you

2119
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 3: poke it with the fork, and what you got You

2120
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 3: got a guy who's just living that divorced dad energy

2121
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 3: on this TikTok shit, that's what you got. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Jason, loving member of this extended MKA family, you

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Speaker 1: would agree, right.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Jay is the only guy who we

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Speaker 3: could insult to tears without an HR violation. HR would

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Speaker 3: be like, well, we actually have a policy. Shitting on

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Speaker 3: Jay is fully acceptable within the Bible.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to thank our fantastic Malcoa crew for helping

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Speaker 1: us out today, Mikey Mormou from CBS as well a

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Speaker 1: show time.

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Speaker 3: We love our team, Luke. I mean, you know, was

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Speaker 3: this a flawless show? No? But you know, min each

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Speaker 3: took one for the team and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: We were like, Miniach, we're gonna need you to go

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Speaker 1: to go have a rendezvous with that with that college

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Speaker 1: softball catcher.

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Speaker 3: You know, you gotta take one for the team, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna ki, he's gonna stab you, and

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna watch.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, Maniche is really talented and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: talk about dinner last night. Okay, so here's what happened

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Speaker 1: over and he doesn't want me to talk about his music.

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Speaker 3: But he's good, Luke, I will say this. You know

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Speaker 3: what the problem with dinner last night was the music

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Speaker 3: wasn't loud enough.

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Speaker 1: That was really the well, the problem was that your

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Speaker 1: conversational skills among adults.

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Speaker 3: Was like, don't blame me. I was you were like,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't just me, hold on, it was not just me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but you went from hey, guys, guess what you know,

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Speaker 1: the worst thing I ever did was watching a beheading

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Speaker 1: on the internet.

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Speaker 3: Our producer producer goes, the worst thing I've ever seen

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Speaker 3: was some guy get stabbed in the neck on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, do you guys remember Nicholas Berg.

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Speaker 3: Nicholas Berg was this guy who in two thousand and

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Speaker 3: three going to religate it, right, I'm just gonna say this,

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Speaker 3: and they Isis captured him and beheaded him. I watched

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Speaker 3: the beheading video back in when I'm yeah, you gave

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Speaker 3: painstaking details. I didn't. Here's the thing I could give

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Speaker 3: you pain steaking details. I didn't. It's the most horrendous

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Speaker 3: thing I've ever seen. I fully regret ever watching it.

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Speaker 1: And then you had a diatribe on sex crimes. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: these are like adults that we work with.

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Speaker 3: They could they don't want for a guy who starts

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Speaker 3: every show with a monument being built to various sex

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Speaker 3: crime offenders. But I find your I find your position

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Speaker 3: on this issue a little bit hypocritical.

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Speaker 1: Would you agree, though, that our audience is very consensual

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Speaker 1: in that what this there may be there may be

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Speaker 1: the inappropriate things that happen in the relationship between me

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Speaker 1: and that camera.

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Speaker 3: But the other side are willing. No, I think you

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Speaker 3: make everyone uncomfortable with it. I don't think there's any

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Speaker 3: willingness whatsoever. You are vastly overstating the staff and the

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Speaker 3: audience's participation. No, the staff is another question. They just

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Speaker 3: have to look at this. Their job. You know that's

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Speaker 3: their job, right bro? Look at this specimen of a man.

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Speaker 3: Look at him? Don't they? Every every shot is just

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Speaker 3: a problem.

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Speaker 1: Jake, if you're out there, if you're listening, Jake, if

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Speaker 1: you're watching, where are you? We need you this week, Jake.

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Speaker 1: We need the doc cameras chronically history the growth of men.

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Speaker 3: You know, dude, I gotta tell you you're at the

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Speaker 3: wrong Vegas restaurant. If there's a DJ screaming, if it's

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Speaker 3: your birthday stand up, they're trying to get us to

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Speaker 3: rep Yeah, I agree, we should. We should go all right.

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Speaker 1: For Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. Check us later for

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Speaker 1: much more Showtime Boxing Perview. This is the best show

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