WEBVTT - “I PARTY IN THE SEWER” 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:01.639 All from Shabo. 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:08.120 Hello, Yeah, it was this wild Yeah, who is this Sabo? 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:09.840 What kind of name is Sabo? 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:10.119 Is that? 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:11.680 I assume that's not your real name? 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:14.760 No time, or it's my explorer name? 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:17.960 What what? What do you explore? 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:19.000 Uh? 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:25.000 You know, like the sewers and old caves and abandoned buildings, 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:25.680 that kind of thing. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:31.400 How long have you been exploring sores for? Uh? 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.680 Probably like a couple of years now. Yeah. I just 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.040 I got into it because one day I showed up 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.760 to work. I used to work at a tropical fish store, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.360 and uh, it was really slow day and my coworkers 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.519 showed up high it was just like chill with it 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:50.080 is whatever. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:50.720 Uh. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.040 And then at the very end of the shift, he 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.680 just asked me if I wanted to go check out 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:59.040 a I got a cave in a sewer and I 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:00.440 had nothing better to do, so. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:06.600 I went, how long had you known this guy before 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.280 he asked you if you wanted to check out a 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:13.360 cave and a sewer with him? 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.920 I want to say, only like four months. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.840 That's a good enough amount of time to know somebody 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.560 before you go into a cave with them. Tell me 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.039 about cave guy, cave guy. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.200 Well, there are multiple cave guys. There are a lot 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.000 of cave guys, but you want to know about the 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:33.720 cave guy. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.000 I want to know. When I say cave guy, I 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.640 mean the guy who took you to a cave. 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:42.039 Okay, yeah, so he I don't know, he was just 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:46.399 another I mean he was my age and I guess 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:50.600 he'd been doing it since he was like young, like thirteen, 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:54.200 which seems kind of like where was his parents? But 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:58.240 you know, hey, man, he he can do him. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:01:59.720 No, he was cool. 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.120 We just worked at a dingy tropical fish store together 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:08.200 and like occasionally we would like smoke weed before and 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:14.480 after work, and uh, yeah, I don't know who's chill. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.440 I loved dude. He was a great guy. He moved 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:17.040 out to Florida. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:21.520 But that really does have to be one of the 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.680 best jobs ever. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:27.640 Just pretty good, honestly. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:33.160 Getting high in a store that nobody goes into ever, 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.840 that's almost certainly a front for something else. And then 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.560 afterwards and then you meet every little guys who take 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:43.040 you into caves. That's so that's a sick job. That's 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:43.680 a sick job. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.160 Sorry, someone's knocking out my door. No, it was a 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:54.200 fucking awesome job, Like I mean, I love fish tanks. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.760 I'm surrounded by pretty fish. You know, it's like dimly lit. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.440 All the tanks are like super old. It did look 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.400 like a front, like it had the building had no windows. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.080 Everybody I talked to thought it was a front. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:08.440 I even had people. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.480 Come in like and ask me if I sold drugs, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.160 like late at night because they thought it was a 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.919 front for like fucking trust. Ugly, it was fucking stupid. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.480 How many times per shift would a customer come in? 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:29.200 Oh, I mean like during the weekdays, like only like 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.120 four or five. Honestly, on the weekends it could get 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:33.840 pretty busy. I mean there's a lot of people who 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.800 got who got fish they got to take care of. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:36.160 You know. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.839 But during the weekdays it was pretty dead. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:39.800 Bro. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.440 I really think about this stuff all the time, Like, 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:47.120 you know, what, can I ask what city this fish 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:47.880 store is in? 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:50.480 Uh? 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:57.080 Yeah, Minneapolis, Okay, I mean because I always wonder, like, Okay, 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:01.360 there's certain like to keep a business open costs a 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.839 lot of money every month, right, and it's like there's 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:06.120 a certain amount of. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:13.760 A tropical fish that you need to sell to like 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.320 break even, and then you got to sell like double 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.640 that to actually make any money, So how the fuck 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.679 does this fish store afford to stay open? 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:31.200 By the owner is a total cheap skate. He like 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.960 he paid me like less than in a wage, and 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.840 then he also like genuinely talked about me to me 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.600 about how like he didn't believe minimum wage should be 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.800 a thing. He was like, it's like I should be 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:49.680 able to negotiate, you know, by wages with my prospective employees, 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.040 you know, as you know, as. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:57.520 He was paying me, Like listen, what's your name again, Sabo? Sabo? 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:02.000 I'm look, I'm all for workers a minimum wage, okay, 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:06.600 but it's it sounds like you got paid about as 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.400 much as you should to get high and look at 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:10.080 fish all day. 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.760 I didn't just get high like a fish all day, dude. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.000 I was like cleaning the tanks and stuff like that, 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:20.479 just like I mean, and like on busy days, like 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:24.440 I was selling like thousands of dollars worth of like 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:29.039 fish tanks and stuff like that. So I thought, I was, well, 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.640 I mean, it depends on the fish. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:31.240 You know. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.560 There are some fish that are only like two dollars apiece, 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.000 but then there were several fish that were like three 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.440 or four hundred dollars you know, it really depended on 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.440 the kind of fish. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:46.960 Do you still work at this place? 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:49.359 Oh no, no, no, no. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:59.839 Still, but but your love for exploring abandoned stuff carried over. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:07.440 Hm, yes, and yeah it was actually really funny. Yeah, no, 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.800 I still explore bandanciers. And it was really funny because like, 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.800 so I I don't work there anymore. I have a 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.560 different job. And then at my next job, there was 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.000 another guy who was like even more into exploring than 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.200 the first guy who had showed me a bunch of 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.800 more stuff, and like, dude, he took me like like 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:29.520 underground festivals, right, Like there's like a whole week long 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.880 thing in Minneapolis where like people come from all over 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.800 the country just to explore our our tunnels and stuff. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:36.599 It's pretty crazy. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:41.400 Ah, that is pretty cool. What's what's the festival called. 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.240 It's called Mauser Week. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:46.640 Mauser Week. Tell me about Mauser Week. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:53.440 Uh yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's it's pretty simple, honestly. Yeah, 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.560 It's just a bunch of people from all around the country, 0:06:55.680 --> 0:07:00.240 even in the world, who just enjoy like urban exploring, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:04.520 and so they come to come to Minneapolis for a week, 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.640 and uh, we just have to throw big like cave 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:13.200 parties and stuff like that and explore together and just 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:14.640 have a good time in general. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.400 Anything crazy. You ever go down at these cave parties? 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:25.720 Oh yeah, dude. Last year there was a prohibition esquitarian 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:30.560 themed party and like an old bootlegging cave and uh, 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.240 there was like a projector with a silent movie. There 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.400 was like a whole ass horse skeleton. There was like 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:43.160 an art gallery. There was a barter blackjack. There was 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:47.360 a full cocktail bar. Like people like tapped into the 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.320 street lamps nearby and like ran power into the cave, 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.480 so it was fully lit up and we even had internet. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.680 And then like there was performances. There was like fire 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.760 dancers and like music, and then there was a sewer 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:06.480 back where there was like the pure surface dwellers versus 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.960 like the dirty sewer people, and they like got into 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.480 a battle, but then by the end they like became 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.240 friends and were dancing in a circle. And then there 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.280 was like an offering to the sewer goddess where people 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.640 just you know left gifts in order to have good 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.040 luck and not get lost in the tunnels. It was 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:25.240 it was pretty wild. 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:26.320 It was a good time. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:27.840 Does it smell? 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:37.640 And the sewers. It definitely can. Sometimes it's it's really nasty. Honestly, Thankfully, 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.040 I'm like partially nose blind, so I don't mind it 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.480 as much, but it's it's it's really gross. Like I 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:48.120 don't I don't really uh enjoy being in the sewers 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.800 that much, but I go into the sewers because they're 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:52.920 connected to other. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:58.960 Things, because the hottest parties in Minneapolis are going on 0:08:59.120 --> 0:08:59.640 down there. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.880 Yes, there's like huge raves that happened down there and 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:06.720 stuff like that. It's it's pretty wild. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.360 That's cool, man, that's cool. How often do you go 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.120 into the sewer raves? 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.920 I don't go to the sewer raves that often because 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.040 I'm I mean, I'm not a huge party person. A 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.720 lot of the time. I'll go for like a special occasions, 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.240 but they happen pretty often. Like there's probably one going 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:28.160 down during certain terms of the year. Is probably one 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:29.280 going down like every weekend. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.320 Dude, I absolutely need to do one of my Gecko 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.360 interview things at the sewer party. People are gonna think 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:38.920 I'm cosplaying as a Ninja turtle. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.400 You should, dude, Honestly, like, if you ever came to 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.880 the Twin cities. I could probably like set it up 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.680 where we get internet into a cave and we could 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.319 generally you could have a show in a cave. 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.200 All right, I'm in want. I think I'm going to 0:09:55.200 --> 0:10:00.360 Minneapolis on my tour next year, so I'm in. I'm 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.559 in the store party, yeah, I think. So I'm trying 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.240 to well, what happened last year was I went to Indianapolis, 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.800 and I thought that that was I thought the Indianapolis 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.440 and Minneapolis were the same thing because you know they 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.680 both have Panapolis in it. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:16.800 You're kindoy for that. 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:21.240 What uh, what do you do now that you're not working, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.080 that you're not getting high and looking at fish. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:29.679 I'm a locksmith, which is kind of ironic because sometimes 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:35.040 I go to explore things I have to like trespass, 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.439 you know, but pick it's not people's homes. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:44.760 So as a locksmith, do you like, can you theoretically 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:45.960 break into anybody's house? 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.400 Yeah? 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:56.360 Yeah, I mean I'm not like, I'm not that it's funny. 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.400 I'm not actually that good at like lock picking, Like 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:02.079 it's a really small part of my is like lock manipulation, 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.560 but like I know the weak points in the lock 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:10.240 and could get in within, like probably a minute or less. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:11.320 M hmm. 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.800 Do you foresee a universe where you ever use this 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:21.000 skill for evil, like to steal chickens from a coop 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:21.520 or something. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.440 I mean, I feel like if it was like life 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:32.079 or death, I probably would, but I don't know. I 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:33.640 I try to. I try to be a good boy. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.679 You know, where have you broken into? 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.480 But I mean, like I wouldn't say I like broken in, 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:46.160 but like I've you know, to get into the sewers, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:47.960 you have to like pop a manhole in the middle 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:48.520 of the street. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:49.559 You know. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.520 I've also been inside of like abandoned mills and stuff 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:57.040 like that. And there's, like I've sometimes you have to 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.120 go through like rail yards and stuff like that to 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.640 get into some of these spots. You know, there's bulls 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.560 after you. I don't know if you know what bulls 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:12.160 are and rail lingo, but yeah, no, just a sometimes 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.679 you gotta sneak around people to get to the cool spots. 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:16.000 What are bulls? 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.320 They're just like the security guards of like rail yards. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:21.600 You know. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.280 I think the reason they're called bulls is because Hobo's 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:26.959 always had to run from them back in the day, 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:27.680 you know, when. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:33.240 They're trying to Now rail lingo. Let me hear some 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:34.160 more rail lingo. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:36.080 I don't. 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.040 I'm not as deep into the the train hopping community 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.280 as I would like to be, so I don't know 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:43.240 more rail lingo. 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:49.240 I guess what's your like, Uh, what's your name again? Sabo? 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.800 You can call Sabo? What's your prerogative? Sabo? What? What 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.800 do you What do you dream of at night? What's 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.840 the future look like for Sabo? You can go anywhere 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.680 you can, and there's literally there is literally no place 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:04.760 off limits to you. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.120 Yeah, I mean I don't know. I have Yeah, I 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.720 have places i'd like to go. I mean there's a 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.400 there I've heard from like friends about like tunnels in 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.960 other cities, Like there's some really crazy tunnels in Chicago 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.040 and stuff like that that'd be cool to check out. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.000 I'd also really like to it'd be really really really 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:37.440 sick to break into like the but like Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, Ukraine, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.520 that would be sick. But obviously there's a war going 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.720 on in there right now. It's like I can't even 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.640 get close to that. But I mean, like, are you 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:50.680 asking like as far as like just dreams in general, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.120 Like what do I want to do with my life? 0:13:52.200 --> 0:14:01.079 Kind of do just go. I don't know, I kinda honestly, 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.679 I hope my life ends up like kind of like simple, 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.640 Like I'd really like to just like make enough to 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:13.840 be comfortable, have a significant other, you know, like have 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.360 a nice house with a with a big garden and 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:22.120 a you know, a deciduous lawn, and just like go 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.240 to work and not be stressed out. I don't not 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.200 I don't really have like big aspirations. I just kind 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:28.840 of want to like comfy. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.840 You know. Well, it's good that you have an inexpensive 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.960 hobby because some people's hobby, as you know, is buying 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.480 exotic fish. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:39.160 Yeah. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.080 I mean I still do that sometimes too, but not 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.000 as much as I used to. 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.760 No, I have a question for you before we go. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:51.720 Do you have any safety concerns at all for for 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:57.200 urban exploration? Because you know, I, by the way, I myself, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.840 I don't do it that much anymore. But I used to, 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.040 like when I was a kid, I'd be really into, like, 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:06.360 you know, exploring abandoned buildings and basements and all that 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.640 kind of shit. But I know that that, uh, like 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.680 you can you can get a little fucked up, whether 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.840 it's like asbestos is running around, or like a tile 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:22.760 breaks off and you fall down three stories or you 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.560 know you ever run into anything like that. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.320 Oh yeah, no, I actually I almost I almost killed 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.960 my best friend while we were exploring once because there's 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.400 this one storm drain that we like to go into 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:39.240 and in order to get in, you have to go 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.800 to the spot that's called Confuser. And the reason it's 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.000 called Confusers is because there's like seven man holes in 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.000 close proximity and only one of them has a ladder, 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.080 but it's like a really visible spot, so you have 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.560 to like open the right one and getting quick otherwise 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.920 it get caught. As we went there and I opened 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.440 the wrong one, and so my friend like started getting 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.400 down in you know, was hanging onto the edge with 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.640 his like arms, and he was like I can't feel 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.640 the ladder. I cant feel ladder. And I was like, shoot, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.640 we gotta like turn on the light and just like 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.680 figure this out. And you know, there was just like 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:16.080 a twelve story drop beneath him, so we had to 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:20.040 like pull him out. That wasn't fun. I really I 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.920 felt really bad for that. So you gotta worry about 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:27.480 stuff like that, you know. And I've also gotten like 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.720 really sick from the sewers. I was better written for 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:35.720 three days because I like basically got dysentery, so that 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:40.560 kind of sucked. Yeah, and there's this sebaestos and you 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.680 know there's hs gas and the sewers which can kill you. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:46.960 And you know if you get cuts and they get 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.200 in effected, that's not good either. So yeah, it's it's 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:55.720 really dangerous. But uh, I don't know, I kind of 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.560 like the danger. Maybe I'm a little bit of an 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.080 adrenaline junkie in that way. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:01.800 You're like a ninja Turtle. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.480 Yeah, running around series Turtle power. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.280 Yeah. Man, it sounds like you were playing like manhole 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:15.920 Russian Roulette pretty much. 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.720 Yeah, that's exactly what it was. And I'm really lucky 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.600 I didn't kill my best friend. I would have done. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:25.639 That would have ruined my life. I think if that 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:26.280 had happened. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.359 Well, Sabo, thanks for talking to me about Thanks for 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.159 you know, you know what is cool about this conversation 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:40.760 is God doesn't I don't know if the folks at 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:45.480 home can't empathize with this, but God doesn't life feel 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.720 boring sometimes? You know, don't you feel don't you do 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.920 you ever feel like you already know all the stuff 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.679 that exists out in the universe for you to do, 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.640 and you're just bored. I'm glad I got to talk 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:05.920 to you because any any day where I gain knowledge 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.439 of a of a new thing that exists out in 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:12.359 the universe, such as underground sewer parties, I gather a 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.159 little bit more of my lust for life. So thanks 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.400 for sharing all this stuff, Sabo. Is there anything else 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:19.959 you want to say to the people of the computer 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:20.680 before we go? 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:28.960 Uh, Mouser's got a mouse, turtle power, turtle power, have 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:29.640 a canet keake? 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:35.440 Hello? 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:42.879 Hello, Hi, Hi, what's your name? My name is Ben, Ben. 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:44.360 What's up? Man? 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:47.000 That's a gecko. 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.040 This is gecko. 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:58.399 What's up? Yeah, well you know what's up? Yeah? Well 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.000 we might speak to That's what I texted you before. Yeah. 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:08.040 So I haven't worked in three years and paid by 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:13.919 my company insurance because I went in to depression, like a 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:18.560 deep fucking depression, and I got like, I I got 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.879 panic attacks in anxiety a lot about like every fucking 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.679 thing that exists. So and I got to go back 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:27.040 to work in like three weeks. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.520 So you you're insurance your your did you get like 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.760 panic attacks as a result of your. 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:39.960 Work at the start. Yeah, yeah, back then, Well when 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.680 I went into the depression three years ago. Yeah yeah, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.560 because I worked like for the government and I sell 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:46.280 alcohol for the government where I live. 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.480 So you sell alcohol for the government. 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:52.720 Yeah. Yeah, it's like. 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.200 You're in Montreal correct. Yeah, yeah, that's why you got back. 0:19:58.200 --> 0:19:59.920 Well that's what's why you got the French thing going on. 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.080 Yeah, that's why that's why I was. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.480 I because I saw the I saw the plus one, 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:08.680 I saw the Canada area code by you, and then 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:10.520 you started talking and I was like, this is a 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.480 very funny sounding Canadian man, but you're French. 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.320 Yeah, I am French. Yeah, it's like it's like like 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:24.080 the actual like yo, it's the fun part of Canada. 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:30.239 Now, why did selling alcohol for the government send you 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:31.120 into a depression? 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.199 I was looking at the COVID and you know, like 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:39.040 the love here, like in the restrictions were like I 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.760 didn't mind them that much, but they were like pretty heavy, 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:47.440 and but like everything was closed, but like those the 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.800 the like the liquor stores that were still open though, 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.359 because you know, we we were making money for the 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.439 government and also we're selling like it's a drug, you know, 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:02.600 it's all quality. So and uh so you're gonna stop 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.119 selling this because people are just gonna sucking break the 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:09.119 windows and just go crazy every every every place that 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.240 where they like the end every place where they did 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.640 close the liquor stores, they all got rub so anyways, 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.760 so that's why we kept on working. And like my 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.960 what my job pretty much changed into like I became 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:27.399 like a bouncer. You know, there's like only ten people 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.560 could be in the store at the same time, and 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.119 uh you know, it was that like I used to 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.800 be like working in a warehouse and now I had 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:38.120 to be like upfront with fucking crazy people. One thing, 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:43.359 they're all cool and just like being aggressive and you know, 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:47.320 like you know, it was a shifty time. So this 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:52.600 was what sent me to depression. And then since I 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:56.800 was depressed, like you you know, you would think that 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.199 you're you're sad when you're the bread, but it's not 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:03.399 the main thing. You're more seem like like angry, you know. 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:06.879 And so I was angry and I stayed at my place. 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:11.000 I wasn't getting out, so and that's when I started 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:16.480 developing panic attects. Because like if you spend like six 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.080 months in the same room and then a year in 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:19.800 the same room, in a year and a half and 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:21.919 two years, and I've spent three years I've been in 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:29.240 my living room. Uh yeah. So now like things get, 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:33.439 things get like it's like the world is shrunk, you know, 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:39.040 and everything that's outside of my living room is like 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:41.080 it's it's aggressing me. 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.480 You know what kinds of things are aggressing you. 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:51.840 Like everything that can be like everything that is like stimulating, 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:55.960 like birds chirping or like, you know, it's no it's no. 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:59.040 Last week here, like a ship shift on the snow 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.720 and they had to uh plow it away and like 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.959 every sound and every you know, like, yeah, I don't know. 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.080 Everything that I cannot control, everything that I cannot control 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.920 is aggressing. And I think that's that's that's that's that thing. 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.880 Yeah sure, god yeah, yeah, you got into the world. 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:20.520 The birds are chirping, there's fucking noises and people talking. 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.520 It's it's annoying. It's annoying being inside. 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:29.159 Yeah, and my place is like super calm. 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.080 So you also you mentioned in the text also that 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.080 in okay, so, your story as it stands to me 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.600 is you were working selling alcohol for the government in 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.280 Canada because they have weird laws. 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:40.000 Uh. 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:41.879 This put you in a position where there was just 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.040 a bunch of fucking crazy people around you all the time. 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.160 This drove you kind of insane. And because it drove 0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:49.040 you insane, you were able to collect a bunch of 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:52.800 money on insurance. And with that money, you've been able 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:55.479 to stay home for three years. And you mentioned in 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.040 the text, I believe you said that you haven't left 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:01.880 the house in like two or three years. Is that correct? 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:06.879 Yeah? Almost? I like I go out there be once 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.159 every two or three weeks. Sometimes I go to the 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:16.080 corner store to buy some rolling papers, but that's about it. 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:17.800 I used to smoke a lot of cigarettes when I 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.320 first went in to the depression. Like I hadn't smoked 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:23.080 for like ten years, and I started smoking again. Of course, 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.440 you know, because you're on depression, some might as well 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.240 fucking smoke tobacco. And uh. 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:33.840 Are you would you consider yourself agoraphobic? 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:41.520 Uh? Yeah, okay, yeah. And my doctor, my doctor also 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:47.159 spoke to me about having problems with days and spoke 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:52.760 I spoke about it with my I've actually been referred 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.560 to a psychiatrists. I'm going to see one in January. 0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:58.840 It's going to be like the second time I see one. 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.720 First time I spent one, you just like told me, like, well, 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.800 you've got depressions, so take care of your depression and 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.320 come back to see me. So I thought it was 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:11.600 a bit like rough from this barness park there, but 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.360 he was he was right, you know, might as well 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:16.879 let's take care of one sickness and. 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:21.360 Okay, I saw, I mean if we like, so let's 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.400 get into it for a little bit. What what Yeah, 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.000 these these three years that you've just been at home 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.480 and you haven't been working, do you live alone? 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:29.720 Yeah? 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.240 What have you been doing past three years? Man? 0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.000 I taught myself how to program. 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:40.840 Uh that's okay. 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.480 Cool, I think, are you that's that's the only thing. 0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.439 For for the first six months, I did nothing, Like 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:54.200 I started on my ceiling and I didn't for for 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.639 for for after a year and a half. I mean, 0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:00.800 I couldn't get out of my apartments because I would 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.800 get like too tired, you know, I couldn't get into 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:07.320 my like walk from my kitchen to my living room, 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.520 and I would be like exhausted just by doing this, 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.800 you know, because I was so not doing nothing. So 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:18.520 uh this also this also helped into the anxiety and 0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:22.399 feeling unsafe outside, you know, but yeah, that's mostly what 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.600 I did for three years. I just like slugged myself 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.520 on the computer and I didn't get out of my eyes, 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:28.760 and I, you know, you know what what I like, 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:33.280 I've only just like I've known Twitch, but I've only 0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.760 started watching Twitch for like a month. 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:43.440 So so so Ben, what have you been like are 0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.119 you able to? Like is what have you been programming? 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:47.760 What have you been coding? What have you been making 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:49.719 with this new skill that you learned. 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.399 I couldn't like, you know, I don't like, you know, 0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:58.280 programming languages, but I couldn't see so I thought myself 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.480 out of code and see, so it's like pretty level 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:05.840 stuff like like you know what I've like, I I 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.080 had some like little gigs left and right, like on 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.480 fivers and up work and these kinds of uh stuff 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.600 where like because because I can do web also, but 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.000 for like, the thing I like the most is c programming, 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.000 you know, because it's low level stuff. So it's like 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.040 I program like, like it's mostly for my portfolio, like 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.680 so I can get a job maybe in that area 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.120 instead of working where I like because I fucking hate 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:33.680 my job. Uh so, yeah, yeah, so I've been mostly 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:37.360 programming like stuff like you know, memory management stuff and 0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:42.919 like file systems and mini os operating systems like you know, 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.920 like like low stuff, low level stuff. 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.040 Like just Ben, do you do? You do? You do? 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.760 You get lonely at all? And just being at your 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.399 house and not not talking to anyone. 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.240 I speak to people like every day, but like only 0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:00.479 on the on the internet around I am for I 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:01.359 am tuckingly. 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:06.199 Well, there there is a problem you have. You have 0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.679 you have like internet friends. 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:13.440 No I got real friends, but no real actually real 0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.520 friends that I do see, but I I speak most 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.720 of my interactions with them are still on the Internet 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.120 because it's it's you know, it's mhm, every day living. 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.439 But they actually live live in Montreal. They live like 0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.320 two streets away for me or so, so we do. 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.560 I do see people once in the blue Moon, but 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:34.760 I mostly speak to them on the But but you 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.080 still do get lonely though, because it's it's not the 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:41.640 same as as that, uh and there there is a 0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:49.080 loneliness problem with uh. I don't know North American men 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:55.880 for sure, I know there there's yeah, yeah, so. 0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.800 You you also said in the text that you're going 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:06.400 back work on January in person at the liquor store. Fuck, yeah, 0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:08.040 how do you feel about that? 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:10.200 I'm freaking out. 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.239 So here's the thing, though, is so I know you're 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:19.840 freaking out, but well, a couple of things, and I'm 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:24.200 just like just totally like practical ship is like you've 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.360 been spending the past three You're you're smart, You're really smart. 0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:34.040 You spent these past three years not you didn't just 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:35.920 sit around and jack off all day. I mean, I'm 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.280 sure you did a little bit, but you learned, you 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.600 know you hold on, don't don't tell me what you're 0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.400 about to tell me. Just yeah, hey, got yeah, what 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:45.200 were we gonna say? 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.160 Well, the thing is that I just want to see 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.240 something about depression and taking entirely presents, you know, because 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.000 they took a lot of them. I'm still taking. 0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:56.280 Are you about to say that they make your dick 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:56.760 not work? 0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:58.120 No? 0:29:58.120 --> 0:29:58.600 No, no, no no. 0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:03.960 At first it's fucking worked, it's works, but you fucking 0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:08.800 can come like you don't get it again right, Like 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:12.160 you just can't get to your right. 0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.840 So it's very possible that you were just yeah, it's 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.280 very possible that you were just in the same masturbation 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:23.400 session for three years and then eventually you know, you 0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.040 just come a whole bathtub at the end. But but 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:28.640 what I was going to say, what I was going 0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.800 to say is you know you were smart, you learned 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:35.320 a skill over the past three years. And so you know, 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:39.120 my my friend, I wonder, why is it that you 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.479 are Why have you resigned to yourself to Okay, I 0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:46.320 now have to go back to this fucking horrible job. 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:51.600 As if as if A as if there's only one 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.280 job available for you to do in the entire you know, 0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.320 country of Canada, and then b as if you didn't 0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.200 just spend a whole bunch of time learning a new 0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:05.560 marketable skill, Like why have you put yourself in this 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.400 box where the only thing for you to do to 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:09.080 make money? Now? 0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:09.400 Is this? 0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:11.480 Is this horrible job that you hate? 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:19.880 I know, I think it's because I like, like it 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.120 makes it makes when I look at it from the outside, 0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:28.040 it makes absolute sense for me to see what that 0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:31.920 fact I should take and like most probably will succeed in, 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.320 but to actually do it. 0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:34.680 Or do it. 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:43.640 Like everything is still uh creating like everything is still 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:49.080 creating a lot of anxiety in me. So yeah, yeah, 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:56.080 that's the main that's the main, main thing. And uh, 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.000 I need to take the shipload Exanax just so I 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.040 don't freak out books at the time, so at least 0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:05.480 at my government jump, you know, I thnk the Examax 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.920 out of my head and scam bottles at cash, you know, 0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.280 and after for twenty dollars and just gives the fucking 0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.680 money back. And you know, it's a basic jo. 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.640 Let me let me ask Let me ask you another thing. 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:20.480 Let me ask you anything through your insurance over the 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.120 past three years, have you been able to talk to 0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.840 a therapist? You said you spoke to a doctor who. 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.840 Told yeah, yeah, yeah, but being a psychologist for four. 0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.320 Years, tell me, I'm curious. I want I want to 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.720 know what are some things that the psychologists have just 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:33.160 told you. 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.240 Ah, well, we spent that ship all the time, and 0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:46.120 my my childhood, I had uh, you know, threat syndrome. 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.000 Tourette syndrome. By the way, a very uh it's almost 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.360 apt for you because touret sounds like a very French. 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:54.200 It sounds like a. 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.440 French y head. I was going to get to head, 0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.400 but you know, I said it, and it is just 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:06.000 because it sounds so cooler. Oh that's that's the main reason. 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.719 So what is your So, what what is your What 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.400 is your psychologist told you that has been helpful for you? 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:23.120 And it's been helpful, it's I don't know, man, because 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.160 we've only been exploring, like even my best but like 0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.760 Shan really told me anything that much about like actual 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:36.760 daily yeah, like actual. 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.600 Yeah, dude, I fucking hate them. No, I know, I know, 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.600 you mean, I fucking hate that like I've been you know, 0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.400 like I fucking hate in therapy where they're like, tell 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.120 me about when you were eight years old. I'm like, 0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:47.840 first of all, I don't remember, and second of all, 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.480 I'm a hundred whatever. Okay, look, I know I'm not 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.320 a real therapist. I don't know, I didn't read any 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.280 of the books or whatever. But I'm like one hundred 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.360 percent sure that nothing happened to me when I was eight. 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:02.239 That is the reason why I am. You know, I'm 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.600 addicted to candy or whatever the fuck. But I'm also 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:08.640 probably wrong and stupid. But but but no, I understand 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:12.640 your frustration about that. So so okay, so nobody knows 0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:16.279 no psychologists, So no, no psychologists, no doctor. I mean 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.239 that what about the doctor like, has any has any 0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:26.080 mental health or physical health professional given you any tips 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.279 or positive ways forward to deal with the things that 0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:30.040 you're dealing with. 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:36.120 Yeah, I got a doctor and uh he prescribed me bills. 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.279 So it's pills in therapy with the psychologists, but that's 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:44.120 mainly you know, they say you get access to like 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:48.719 psychology resources and all this, but like it's hard to 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:56.160 actually get good psychology treatment. I don't know, It's like 0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.600 sometimes you feel like they don't even know what to 0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.719 fucking do with you. So like like like that, like 0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.640 the woman a woman called me this week, like for 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.080 an interview, like none of the interview, Like there's like 0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.120 a screening call before the psychiatrist. And she asked me 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.799 like that bunch of a bunch of questions and like 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.400 she asked me, what I what I what I'm expecting 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.880 out of the psychiatrist? You know, like how am I 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.320 supposed to know what to expect from the psychiatrist? 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.120 I mean he's just like, I, I hold on, I 0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:33.399 think that's a legitimate question. What are you expecting out 0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:34.200 of a psychiatrist? 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.879 Well, I I answered, Well, I just wish I wish 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.040 is like I just wish. She opens up my head 0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:46.839 and repairs it. Yeah, that's why I told her. Yeah, 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:48.600 but I don't know what what what? 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:48.680 What? 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.480 Like just just fucking track me open and fix. 0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:56.200 It up, you know, Yeah, but I couldn't. 0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:56.920 I know. 0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:00.040 It's it's like she answered, But I mean I have no. 0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.960 I don't think. I don't think that's a answer. I think. 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:07.279 I mean, look, people go to school, and the job 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.600 exists to do that, right. The job exists because people 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.360 have fucking issues and they got to go to a 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:17.800 person to help them with the fucking issues. So uh, okay, 0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:19.400 and this is the previous intake. So did you go 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.200 to see the psychiatrist? 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:25.160 No? No, Well I'm going to see them in January 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:30.239 most probably or four weeks. 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:34.800 So well, listen, you know, Ben, I you know I'm 0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.240 not a real thing. I'm a fucking douche in a 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.960 in a in a shitty costume that I've been farting 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:45.000 on the phone. But I want to say, I want 0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.120 to reiterate what I was saying to you, and I 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:51.360 understand that, like you know, you have a you're just 0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:53.359 going through this ship that makes it hard to like 0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.000 take action and not like catastrophize everything that's going on. 0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:58.759 With you in your life. But I really do, like 0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:00.960 from an outside if it's if it's meaningful to you 0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.759 at all. From an outsider perspective, I think what you 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.319 did was really smart. You learned a skill that you 0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.680 could now use to go apply. I'm sure that you 0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:14.000 have a computer screen with like fifteen different fucking monitors 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.440 on it that you can do a whole bunch of 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:20.840 jobs from. So why don't you go on the internet 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:25.520 and find jobs or you know, I know you talked 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.680 about Fiverr, you talked about upwork. Those are all great things. 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.680 I'm sure you made a profile and you did this 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:35.040 and you offered whatever services that you can provide with 0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.240 the knowledge that you learned over the past three years. 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.239 But like, why don't you go within your means of 0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:44.160 whatever you can do while while navigating whatever is going 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:48.439 on with your mental health right now? Like, see what 0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.920 options out there exist for you in the world before 0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:56.640 you know succumbing to this this defeat that the only 0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:58.359 thing that you can ever do with your life ever 0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:03.320 is get you know, yelled at by drunk French Canadian people. 0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.200 Yeah, yeah, thanks for your advice, man. 0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.360 Okay, good do you do you? Does that? Do you feel. 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.400 How do you feel about everything I just said? 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:17.120 I feel I feel fine? 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.239 Yeah yeah, okay, good? 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.040 No, thanks man? Thanks? Uh yeah you no bad? Of 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:25.759 course it makes sense what you're saying, but I mean 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.560 it's not something that's like so yeah, it's good to 0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.240 you know when because when you speak when you fail, 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.000 like when you say things like they make sense as 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.839 you say them sometimes. So just like just talking with you, 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:41.480 like I realize somethings. 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.840 So okay, good man, But you don't want. 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.920 Though it's the first time I call, and I like, 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.080 I've no moved for known you for like only two 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.759 or three weeks, but like I watched your show every 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:57.800 time I can, and you're fucking great. You're an inspiration actually, 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.239 and I want to say, I'm gonna call you back 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:03.520 then I'm gonna take you. 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.799 Okay, good, I'm down for I'm down for a follow 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.239 up if you go, if you find another job, let 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.160 me if you find another job or something happens, Okay, 0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:15.880 you call me back, let's talk. I want to know 0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.080 if there's an update, okay. 0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:18.319 Perfect, man? 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.480 All right, Ben? Is the anything else? Okay? Is there 0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:24.480 anything else you want to say? All right? 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:28.759 All right, just just be careful, you know, good, you know, 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:30.760 maybe it doesn't exists. 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:33.560 All right, take care, Ben, thank you? 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:34.279 Right. 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:41.920 I gotta go to Montreal at some point. So wait, 0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:49.239 the government runs liquor stores. That's kind of interesting. I 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.239 liked Ben. He was a cool guy. I don't know. 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:55.959 I he's smart though, Like I said, he's smart because 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.960 I've talked to We've talked to like, you know, mildly 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:05.080 agoraphobic people on the on the podcast before, and like 0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:10.080 obviously people in like crazy, like depressive episodes, and you know, 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.200 look for me when I'm in a crazy depressive episode. 0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:21.320 I don't learn how to code, I you know, go insane. 0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.760 I don't do anything productive. But he did something productive 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:28.359 with his crazy time. He turned crazy time into crunch time. 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:33.960 I was smart, and I hope it pays off for him. 0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:35.560 All from Scooby. 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:38.799 Hello, what's up man? 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:40.920 What's up? Ject is? 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:45.480 This is Scooby? Yes, sir, what's going on? Scooby? How 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:46.360 can I help you today? 0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.319 Nothing much, man, I was gonna talk about my experience 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.920 in foster cure for the past ten years. 0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:56.719 Oh wow, how old are you now? 0:40:57.960 --> 0:40:58.360 Eighteen? 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.000 Oh man? So you got to put there when you're eight? 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:03.640 Uh? 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.160 Yeah, go ahead, start wherever you want to start. 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:08.359 All right. 0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:12.759 So pretty much, I used to live with my dad 0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.480 and he used to get into arguments and ship with 0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:20.160 my step mom. Then I think child protective services came 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.680 in the picture, do like welfare checks. They came up 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.440 for my dad when he was smoking a joint and 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:31.160 then fucking then taking me to my grandparents' crib and 0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:35.279 they took me to a shelter, and I started going 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.880 to group homes and threw out those. That's when I 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.520 started getting arrested and ship, hanging out with the wrong crowd, 0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:48.640 got introduced into some fucked up drugs and ship m hm. 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:50.480 Moving a long run. 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.359 So so they took you away from your parents when 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.080 you were eight because your dad was smoking a joint 0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:57.240 or it was a bunch of other stuff. 0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.520 Yeah, it was mainly because of argument and ship and 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:04.920 it wasn't like a household for her child. But the 0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.560 joint really add the cherry on top when they showed up. 0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.000 So did did you feel that way? Do you feel 0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:12.279 like it was a bad environment for you? 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:20.080 Not really, But like nowadays, I don't really be talking 0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.160 to my dad because every time I like I see him, 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.919 it's always like an argument or I end up getting 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:30.600 arrested due to him like trying to aggravate me and 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:32.400 just trying to uh just fuck me. 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:36.520 So where are you at now? 0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:43.160 Stayed up by febo? So I stept rarely had a 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.920 core order recently, like a month ago. I have to 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:49.160 go to rehab for sixty days, so I'm going there 0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:49.640 on Monday. 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:54.440 All right, Now, you said that you were into like 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:58.160 drugs and doing all this other kind of stuff. Is 0:42:58.160 --> 0:42:59.200 that something you're still into? 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:05.359 Honestly, I stopped all the hardcore shit. I'm just kind 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.720 of doing like shrooms and like tree recently. 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.600 All right, are you gonna go to college? 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.560 Uh? Yeah, actually I just gotta get my ged and 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:18.839 then the foster care system paid for my college til 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:19.399 twenty eight. 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:21.520 Oh really, that's actually pretty cool. 0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.680 It's dope. They pay for the dormitory, they pay for everything, 0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:26.640 and they pay me to go to school too. 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:27.680 Wow. 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:29.560 So you don't have to go into any kind of 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:31.480 do you don't have to pay a dying I. 0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.520 Don't have to pay shit, man, it's all free. 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:38.600 Damn. I find there's definitely some seventeen year olds I'm 0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:41.160 about to call, So there's definitely some seventeen year olds, 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:43.880 they're about to listen to this podcast and call social 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:45.120 services on their parents. 0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:46.840 For sure. 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:52.480 What are you gonna study? 0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:56.359 Most likely like computer engineering. But what I really want 0:43:56.360 --> 0:44:01.080 to do first is get like some trades in like HVAC, electrical, poet, welding. 0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.200 I can get that shit for free too, So if 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.840 I don't succeed in college, I also have that to 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:12.280 fall back on. M M. You just get my certifications? 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:15.000 Are you excited? 0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:25.920 Not? Really? Because I have like severe social anxiety. I 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:27.399 don't like talking to people like that. 0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.640 Why do you? Why do you not like talking to people. 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:33.920 Due to like trauma and stuff. Like when I was 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:36.560 a kid. When I was like when I was young, 0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.160 maybe ten years old, in a group home, like anytime 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.880 I'll come out, because it was like predominantly like you know, 0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:46.400 black kids, staff is black whatever. I was like the 0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.279 only white boy, and the anytime I spoke, it would 0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:51.600 just be racial towards me, calling me like a cracker 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.000 all that shit. So I just didn't really, you know, 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:54.800 talk to people. 0:44:56.000 --> 0:45:00.600 I'm myself. Do you have any friends right now? 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.320 Oh? Yeah, I have one good friend of mine that 0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:07.000 been hanging out with us since middle. 0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:12.120 School Okay, do are you are you are you close 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:12.720 with them still? 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:14.440 Oh? 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:18.839 Yeah, for sure. We started talking a lot more after 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:23.160 our good friend passed away a couple of years ago, 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.440 and uh so we met up at his funeral and 0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:32.479 started talking again. We'll get together and then yeah, still 0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:33.359 talking to this day. 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:35.520 Mm hmmm. 0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.480 We look out for each other and ship m hm. 0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:49.000 Hm hmm. So do you like now are you are 0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:52.200 you feeling anxiety about like going into a classroom setting 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:54.359 and going to you're going to like traditional college, You're 0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.160 gonna go to like a university, whether you'll be in 0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:56.640 a door. 0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.680 Yeah. No. So what I'm doing is I live in 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.640 South Florida. There's a place called Brower College, like a 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.160 little community college. I'm gonna go there for two years. 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.839 So that's like my gateway to go to FSU Florida State. 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:17.879 Rad, Dude, Rad, I'm trying to think about anything that well, 0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:19.799 I mean, let's think. I'll think with you. Is there 0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:21.680 anything that you think would help you get over your 0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:23.640 social anxiety? 0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.720 I really don't know if I haven't really tried anything. Okay, 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:34.080 And I think smoking you know, smoking pot doesn't really 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:34.880 help you either. 0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:36.719 Okay, So that's another thing I was going to say 0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:41.440 to you, is like, you know, weed affects everyone differently 0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:46.800 and like, but here's the thing. Both ends of the 0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:50.480 spectrum I don't think are good, right because for me 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:52.320 and for a lot of other people, when you smoke 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.200 a bunch of weed, you get in your head and 0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:59.239 that's the worst position to be socializing from, because you're 0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:01.839 overthinking everything you're saying, you're ever thinking everything the other 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.680 person is saying, you're not being yourself, you're paranoid, you're 0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.520 you're shy, or it's just it's just it's just not good. 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:09.880 But even if you were to tell me that, But 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:11.480 if you were to tell me the opposite, even if 0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:14.160 you were to tell me that we made you feel 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.480 more sociable and loose and whatever, that would still be 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.080 bad because then you would, you know, develop some kind 0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.520 of system where like, oh, I have to get high 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:24.520 in order to talk to people, and that's not good either. 0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:31.719 So yeah, you know, I I've noticed that when I'll 0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:35.000 do like mushrooms and shit, like it helps me like 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:40.040 not fear weird, like it makes me I don't know, 0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.240 it makes me happy and joyful, like I can actually talk. 0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:43.920 To a little copy word about them judging me, and. 0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:48.440 Shit, how often are you doing mushrooms? 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:56.200 I microdose like once every two or three days. So 0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.520 I'm just getting back, you know, into the hang of 0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:00.880 that shit. So not so I'll do it. 0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:06.400 M hm hm. 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.680 So I assume you've been going to well, you're gonna 0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.000 get a rehab for sixty days. Yeah. 0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:15.200 Yeah, I'm gonna go there for sixty days starting Mondays, 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:16.600 so I'll be out in March. 0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.360 All right. Cool, How are you feeling about that? 0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:25.360 Feeling kind of good? I mean I told my friends 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.759 and shit that I talked to you. Still, I'm about 0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:30.560 to do my plan is and I told them when 0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:35.560 I get out, I'm planning on being sober. Hopefully I'm 0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.319 not addicted to vapes no more. And I don't, you know, 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:43.239 smoke me no more. Cool, I don't know, live the 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:43.919 sober life. 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:48.560 Cool man. Well, I good on you. You see, you 0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.040 have a really great perspective of all these things. It 0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:58.200 sounds like you didn't have like the best positions growing up, 0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:01.560 but you're making a lot of it for sure. 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:01.839 Yeah. 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.720 See, Child protect the Services really fucked up my childhood, 0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:06.200 but I made the best of it. 0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:09.080 Child Protector Services fuck up your childhood. 0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:10.640 Yeah, that's when they are you. 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.600 Are you more mad at them than at your parents? 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:17.719 Uh? Yeah, I mean, no kid wants to Even though 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:21.239 I had a shitty a household, I didn't want to 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:23.920 get taken away from my dad because still that that 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:27.480 is my father, that's my blood. I don't want to, like, 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:32.319 you know, be raised without him. But yeah, no, I 0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:34.960 didn't live with my family. I was only got to 0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:37.960 visit them once every week, every two weeks if I'm lucky, 0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:44.040 for like an hour for visitation. And I was Yeah, 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:45.200 so I was eight. 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:51.319 You told me this already, but I was thinking about 0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.960 something else. What are you studying. 0:49:57.160 --> 0:50:02.600 Computer engineering? And for my age back electrical AC and plumbing. 0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:06.920 That's sick. That's some good that I like that. I 0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:09.560 like anything where you go to school, Like, if someone's 0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.359 gonna pay for you to go to school, dude, please, 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:15.879 dear God, do something real. Oh yeah, can do something real. 0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.120 And I'm not saying and I've talked about this on 0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:21.400 the fucking on here a billion times, I'm not saying 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:25.880 that the arts is not real, but like, yeah, but 0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.880 like it's going to college, paying a bunch, going to 0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:32.520 college for it is super not real. You know, like, 0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:34.680 if you're gonna spend all the time and money and 0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.799 effort to go to college, you know, get it in 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.640 something that you have to go to college for. So yeah, 0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:41.279 good on you. 0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:46.160 Oh yeah. And they also also cover like apartments, Like 0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.279 they pay half the rent. So I'll say, like, if 0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:52.879 it's like thirteen hundred, I'll pay like four hundred for rent. 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:55.480 Well how do they? What's the whole deal is the 0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:58.520 foster system? Is that like a public tax funded thing? 0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:02.359 I think so? I mean I don't really know. I 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:05.120 know they give you benefits for you know, putting to 0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:08.520 a whole bunch of bullshit through childhood. You're eighteen. That's 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:10.439 like the way of saying, hey, hey, we're sorry, here's 0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:12.800 a uh, here's your own crib. You get to go 0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:15.560 to school for free if you really want to, you know, 0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.640 all these free services and shit. I mean, I don't know. 0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:23.000 And and even if you don't go to school, they 0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:27.719 give you like almost a fifteen hundred a month just 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:30.160 because you were in foster care all those years. It's crazy. 0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:35.040 That's great, that's great man. Well you know, what's your 0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.399 name again? Hold on, don't tell me, I'm gonna remember it. 0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:45.279 Fuck what's your name again, Scooby? Scooby, Okay, I feel 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.400 like I should have remembered that. Where'd you get the 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:50.000 name from? 0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.960 I liked watching Scooby Doo growing up, and I was like, 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.920 my discord name and my fucking all my online games 0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:57.759 growing up? 0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:00.319 Is your friend named shag. 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:03.000 I had a friend named Shaggy? 0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:03.239 Yeah? 0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:05.959 He changed his using in to that for call Booty 0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:06.880 means and ship. 0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:12.000 You're h I think I'm not worried about you, Scooby. 0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.239 I think I think you're gonna do well. You gotta 0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:17.359 get ahead on your shoulders, keep keep doing what you're 0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:19.680 doing and trying to stay sober and trying to, you know, 0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:23.840 live life well for sure? Is there anything else you 0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:25.479 want to say to the people of the computer before 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:25.799 we go? 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:30.000 I hope all y'all have a good day or good night. 0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:34.759 Leak will ghek bless you. 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:37.239 Man, have a good day. 0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:43.759 Take care man ah man. I liked Scooby. I was 0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:45.480 thinking when we were on the phone. I was like, 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:49.479 am I and I'm too. I'm too I'm too deep 0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:54.719 in the game for these questions, or maybe I'm not. 0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:57.000 I don't know, but I'm talking to Scooby and I'm like, 0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:00.359 am I is it bad that I'm I just tend 0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:04.840 to be a therapist, that I were doing fake therapy stuff, 0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:09.200 And I think about it, but I liked I liked 0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:12.280 talking to Scooby. That was an engaging conversation. It felt 0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:17.880 helpful for everyone involved. You know, I I, I know 0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:23.919 I enjoyed that fake therapy session. So whatever, I'll keep 0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:29.800 doing fake therapy until you know, something really bad happens. 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:37.520 All right, thank you for calling. Scooby goes on the line, 0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:41.400 thinking your phone calls every night ever, goes to what 0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:42.600 and ide he's teaching 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.720 You aloud in the memory line, but he's not really 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:47.480 an expert.