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Speaker 1: Too Much Information is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to Too Much Information, the show

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Speaker 1: that gives you the secret histories and little known fascinating

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Speaker 1: facts behind your favorite TV shows, movies, music and more.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jordan Runtug and I'm Alex Hegele. And

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Speaker 1: today we're talking about the salute to the glute, the

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Speaker 1: bow to the booty, the cheer to the rear, the

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Speaker 1: anthem of the ass Yes, the hip hop song that

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Speaker 1: even your grandma will dance to a family functions. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about the Immortal Baby Got Back by Sir mix

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Speaker 1: a Lot, Night of the Turntable, first of his name,

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Speaker 1: Duke of the Dry Air and friend to butts of

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Speaker 1: all sizes. You are getting a politze for that if

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Speaker 1: I have to wrench it out of someone else's called

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Speaker 1: dead hands. But this song deserves it. It has managed

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Speaker 1: to transcend generations quite literally, based on pure goofy nous.

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Speaker 1: Really mean, come on, you don't have that with Rex

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Speaker 1: and effects or juvenile uh. Juveniles persisted, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: not doesn't come from the same lightheartedness. I'll say yes.

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Speaker 1: This song turned thirty years old this year. Is released

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Speaker 1: on May seven, and um, I think it's truly just

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Speaker 1: as relevant as ever. What do you think about this song?

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Speaker 1: What are your impressions, your memories, your hot tapes? You know,

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Speaker 1: I grew up a child of the nineties, so this

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Speaker 1: was like shoved into my face and literally every opportunity,

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Speaker 1: usually a boy your former employer of VH one. Did

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Speaker 1: they do it behind the music on him or do

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Speaker 1: they just catch him? Or is this one of the

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Speaker 1: this might have been part of the best one hit wonders. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I have no quarrel with Cervix a lot. The

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Speaker 1: more I read about him, the more I think I'd

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Speaker 1: like him. I don't. I'm really tired of hearing the

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Speaker 1: damn song. But you know it is it has a

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Speaker 1: sort of a universal charm, I mean, universal message. But

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Speaker 1: it's goofy and kind of the same way that like

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Speaker 1: and kind of and lighthearted in the kind of the

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Speaker 1: same way that like bismarckis. Like, you know, just a

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Speaker 1: friend is like you're five years old and the first

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Speaker 1: time you hear someone say I like, but I cannot

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Speaker 1: on the radio, and you're just like, it's just so funny,

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Speaker 1: and it sears it into your head. Maybe one of

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Speaker 1: the most epic opening lines to any piece of film, television,

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Speaker 1: epic poetry. Yeah, so you know what, I gotta give

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Speaker 1: it to Mix. Great song, A little bit overplayed, great song.

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Speaker 1: What is it? Robert Plant says about Stairwoid to Heaven. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good song. I've just heard it before. Um, well,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. We have quite a tale involving guns, nuns,

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Speaker 1: inflatable butts, and so much more. Here's everything you didn't

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Speaker 1: know about Baby got Back before the bunts. Mix was

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Speaker 1: already kind of a big deal, that is right, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: Mix a lot. He's kind of been relegated to one

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Speaker 1: hit wonder status, but he was actually a regional hip

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Speaker 1: hop star long before his nineties heyday. He was born

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Speaker 1: Anthony Ray, and Mix was basically an early bedroom beat maker,

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Speaker 1: crafting his beats in his Seattle home with drum machines

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Speaker 1: and Korgs and mog since. Uh, and the commodore is

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Speaker 1: that I don't really know what that is. Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: one of the earliest Jankeest computers. I think they do

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Speaker 1: a uh Simpson's bit about it or something. It's just

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Speaker 1: it's a relic of a better time and This is

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Speaker 1: really interesting to me. He was inspired not so much

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Speaker 1: Devo and Gary Newman and Kraft Work. So he was

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Speaker 1: a really unique voice in the burgeoning Seattle rap scene,

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Speaker 1: which was absolutely not known as a you know, a

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Speaker 1: unit producer Jake One recalled an interview with Cocaine Blunts.

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Speaker 1: I think I would assume that's the name of the outlet.

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Speaker 1: By the time Sir Mix came out nationally, he was

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Speaker 1: almost kind of old to the people here in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: He was everywhere. He had song that were big that

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Speaker 1: released as a single. Yeah, because this is the era

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Speaker 1: where you can have huge club bangers that were never

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Speaker 1: he found it a label Nasty Mix, with a local

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Speaker 1: radio DJ. But one of the acts on Nasty Mix

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Speaker 1: Kids Sensation, released a record in two that featured then

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Speaker 1: Seattle Mariners outfielder Ken Griffey Jr. On the track The

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Speaker 1: Way I swing, which I love. His first album was swass.

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Speaker 1: I think it's how you pronounced It's an acronym? What's

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Speaker 1: cannot be overstated. So again, Sir Mix kind of a

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Speaker 1: big deal long before Baby Got Back was ever heard of,

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Speaker 1: And this is interesting, some of his early pre Baby

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Speaker 1: pregnancy and sexual abuse. He had National Anthem, which was

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Speaker 1: a critique of extreme patriotism in America's foreign policy, but

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Speaker 1: probably his biggest pre Baby Got backtrack is Posse om Broadway,

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Speaker 1: he wraps about macing a guy who's about to get

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Speaker 1: violent with his girlfriend, and to kind of put this

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Speaker 1: Posse on Broadway. And interestingly, the song Policy on Broadway

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Speaker 1: also Natalie's Rap, in which Natalie A. Portman throws down

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Speaker 1: a bunch of hard rhymes by the Lonely Island. But

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Speaker 1: by the early nineties Mix It had a falling out

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Speaker 1: Glenn Danzig's first solo records. That's right, I'm sorry. As producers,

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Speaker 1: Sir Mix a Lot and Rick Rubin were pretty well

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Speaker 1: Her baby got back in. Butts were at a crossroads.

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Speaker 1: Uh Mix was watching super Bowl twenty one on TV

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Speaker 1: Robin Leach is there. They play backgammon. It is very weird.

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Speaker 1: But the crucial part of this, or at least the

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Speaker 1: And she would say in an interview with Vulture, where

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Speaker 1: a Vulture oral history years later for the website vultured

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Speaker 1: a Lot told the story. He said, each one of

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Speaker 1: and it made him sad, and nothing should ever make

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Speaker 1: Sir Mix a lot sad. His frustration over homogeneous body

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Speaker 1: types in media sowed the seeds for Baby Got Back

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Speaker 1: as an attempt to, in his words, brought in the

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Speaker 1: his official socially conscious version of the Baby Got Back

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Speaker 1: slightly less heroic, but lest we forget the booties that

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Speaker 1: Is it Sir Mix or Sir a lot um? You know,

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Speaker 1: Your Booty, and of course a little Cool J's song

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Speaker 1: most musically pedigreed but song in my opinion. But Jordan's

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Speaker 1: it's the early nineties and cir mixes recording his first

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Speaker 1: towards the end of the session, he turns his attention

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Speaker 1: towards this new song he's working on, Daby Got Back,

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Speaker 1: and it's the second of the last song it records

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Speaker 1: for the album, and he doesn't have high hopes for it,

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Speaker 1: make over a hundred million dollars. Uh Mix later said,

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Speaker 1: I hated Baby Got Back. I thought this song will

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Speaker 1: incarnation and Baby Got Back was very slow, not exactly

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Speaker 1: Rick Rubin was the one who really believed in it

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Speaker 1: and encouraged Mixed to bump up the tempo and do

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Speaker 1: um and all sorts of other you know, it's why

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Speaker 1: he didn't want it to be a single at all. Instead,

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Speaker 1: he wanted to release the song One Times Got No Case,

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Speaker 1: confronted by the site of this giant fifty ft fiberglass ass,

427
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: he was quite understandably dumb struck. Mix was asked to

428
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Speaker 1: recall the moment in a Reddit a m A and

429
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: he replied, quote one word surreal. Remember now, I'm a

430
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Speaker 1: brother from Seattle. So I walked into this place and

431
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: there was a forty five paper machee ass in the

432
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Speaker 1: middle of the room. First thing, second thing, The director

433
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Speaker 1: told me, you're going to go on top of the

434
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: ass and you're gonna wrap from there. So I tried

435
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Speaker 1: to stand on the left cheek. That didn't work. I

436
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: tried standing on the right cheek. That didn't work. So

437
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: I stood in the crack delivering the song from up there,

438
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: and I was wearing all brown. I was like a

439
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: dancing turd, you know, in another interview, he would say,

440
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: my boys said, you're always talking like you're the ship.

441
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: Well now you really are the ship. They still ride

442
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: me on that. Uh. Mis ultimately changed out of the

443
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: brown outfit, but that was not even the only wardrobe

444
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: drama on this set. Yes, after his hours of careful

445
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: consideration selecting models for this shoot, Mix was dissatisfied with

446
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Speaker 1: their costumes, which he considered too risk gay and in

447
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: his eyes, catered too much to the Caucasian gaze. As

448
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: he later said in The Vulture Oral History, what really

449
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: bothered me was that the main girl sitting on the

450
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Speaker 1: pedestal at the beginning of the song had on a

451
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Speaker 1: blonde wig, tiger shorts, a bunch of gold chains, a

452
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Speaker 1: cheapass satin gown, and ugly lipstick. She looked like these

453
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Speaker 1: are his words? Oh, I thought, what the hell is this?

454
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Speaker 1: Although he added to be honest, if I saw her

455
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Speaker 1: on the street, I might say, what's up baby. I'm

456
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Speaker 1: glad that he added that in there so that she

457
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Speaker 1: wouldn't take it personally if she was reading this, I

458
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Speaker 1: guess um. So Mix took his complaints to the director,

459
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Speaker 1: Adam Bernstein, saying the song is called baby Got back,

460
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Speaker 1: not baby soho. They ended up getting new clothes for

461
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Speaker 1: the model in question, a woman by the name Almond,

462
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: who apparently was very grateful. I guess she really didn't

463
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: like what she had been initially asked to wear. So

464
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: it all worked out in the end, did it, though?

465
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Speaker 1: Jordan's because One of the most iconic stories concerning the

466
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Speaker 1: shoot of the Baby Got Back video is Dana Hollister.

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Speaker 1: Costume designer Dana Hollister, who claimed the quote makes pooled

468
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Speaker 1: a glock on me because I challenged the way he

469
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Speaker 1: was dressed for art direction purposes and he freaked out

470
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Speaker 1: on me. Now makes rebuke this claim, saying that's bullshit,

471
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Speaker 1: before reportedly laughing up roariously. When he regained his composure,

472
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Speaker 1: he continued, quote, there is no way I would travel

473
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Speaker 1: across state lines into California with those gun laws. Pulling

474
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Speaker 1: a gun on a guy is enough of a punk move,

475
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Speaker 1: but a woman. Hollister then walked back the incident, saying

476
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Speaker 1: that it lasted quote all of two minutes. He realized

477
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Speaker 1: that we had his best interests at heart. He is

478
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Speaker 1: a lovely guy. Now, Dana Hollister sidebar, she's the costume

479
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: designer on the shoot, and she later became a famous

480
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Speaker 1: restaurant tour and she owned the former convent in l

481
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Speaker 1: A's Silver Lake district that Katie Perry once tried to buy.

482
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Speaker 1: The reader's digest version of this story is that there

483
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Speaker 1: was a dispute over who had the right to sell

484
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Speaker 1: this content. The archdiocese or the group of nuns in

485
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: the archdiocese agreed to sell the place to Perry for

486
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: fourteen five mill, but shortly afterward, Dana Hollister struck a

487
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Speaker 1: deal to buy the home for fifteen five mill from

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Speaker 1: the Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, who claimed

489
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Speaker 1: they had the right to sell the property. This legal

490
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: battle took years, during which one nun died in the

491
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: middle of court. After getting a ruling, Olister was forced

492
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Speaker 1: to pay six point five million in damages. Sorry back,

493
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: got a little in the weeds, But back to the

494
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Speaker 1: release of Maybe Got Back. This was prime video era

495
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: when MTV ruled the land, and in an attempt to

496
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: get the TV network on board, Rick Reuben commissioned old

497
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Speaker 1: fashioned and grave desk plaques that read call MTV re

498
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Speaker 1: Sir mix a lot and left them left them on

499
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Speaker 1: the desks of every staff member at his office. That's

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Speaker 1: just a helpful little reminder. But unfortunately MTV was not

501
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: happy with this bountiful display of booty and banned the

502
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Speaker 1: video and for the mix camp. This was just a

503
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: golden opportunity, the perfect way to transform the ass anthem

504
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: into a cause celebra if you are killing it with

505
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Speaker 1: the alliteration, thank you, thank this this episode. By the way,

506
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Speaker 1: everyone please please tweet at attention. I mean this is

507
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Speaker 1: it is the Barber streisand effect. You remember that we

508
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Speaker 1: didn't she like, Oh, I sure do. Long story short,

509
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: it was like a real estate thing that she wanted to,

510
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: uh put up a bunch of mansions and okay, So

511
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: the California Coastal Records Project, they were taking photographs across

512
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: the California coastline to document coastal erosion, and uh, she

513
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 1: sued the photographers for violation of privacy. She sued them

514
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: for fifty million dollars because she wanted to remove an

515
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: aerial photograph of the mansion from the publicly available collection

516
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: of twelve thousand California coastline photographs. So this is a

517
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: photography project aimed at environmental concerns. There's one photo in

518
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Speaker 1: twelve thousand, and she sues him for fifty million. Oh

519
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: and this is great. Before she filed her lawsuit, the

520
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: image of her house, image thirty eight fifty, had been

521
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: downloaded from the website only six times, to two of

522
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: those were from her attorneys. So as a result of

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00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: the case, public knowledge of this picture increased greatly, and

524
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: more than four twenty thousand people visited this site over

525
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Speaker 1: the following month. The lawsuit was dismissed and she was

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00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: forced to pay his legal the photographer's legal fees, which

527
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: amounted to a hundred and fifty five thousand dollars. And that,

528
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: in a nutshell is the stries and effect. The more

529
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: you try and suppress something, the more it comes out

530
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: in the wash. Yes, And that's kind of in a

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Speaker 1: sense what happened with the Baby Got Back video. Mix

532
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Speaker 1: who assumed the network would never play the video in

533
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Speaker 1: the first place. He wasn't really all that bothered, and

534
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: he loved the controversy, and he likened it to the

535
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: controversy surrounding Elvis when he appeared on early TV shows

536
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Speaker 1: like Ed Sullivan and he was filmed above the waist

537
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: because his wiggling hips were just too hot for network sensors.

538
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Speaker 1: He was quoted as saying, all of a sudden, Baby

539
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: Got Back, went from being the song you got sick

540
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: of on the radio to being pushed out of the system.

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Speaker 1: He was a rebel. Uh. It was no longer just

542
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Speaker 1: a novelty. It wasn't cute, it wasn't simple. Somebody didn't

543
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: like it, he said. And again this is controversy is

544
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: so great, just gets more attention. Uh. In the past,

545
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: MTV had refused to air songs like NWA straight out

546
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: of Compton, which said it promoted violence. Um. But the

547
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: network always got skittish when the word banned was used.

548
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: The programmer at MTV, a woman by the name of

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Speaker 1: Patty Galoozy, explained her position in the Vulture or History.

550
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: She said, people like to use the word band. You

551
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: can be righteous, as if MTV is banning books. But

552
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: banning is not the same as a programming decision with

553
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: respect to a video that directly flouted a then recently

554
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: instituted rule against showing female body parts with no reference

555
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: to a face, which makes sense. We were trying to

556
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Speaker 1: move away from MTV's recent past, when videos showing slices

557
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: of pie would drop into a girl's lap like in

558
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Speaker 1: Warrants Cherry Pie, and these videos were shown around the clock.

559
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: So okay, a good policy there that that makes sense. Um,

560
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Speaker 1: But Sir Mix took a very active role in trying

561
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: to get his video on MTV, much as Harrison Ford

562
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: did on Air Force. One one of the many ways

563
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: that they're like, Sir Mix a lot crashed at dinner

564
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: with the aforementioned MTV executive Patty Gluzy, and he pled

565
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: his case as to why the video was important and

566
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: deserved to be seen, and finally MTV eventually caved after

567
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: some minor edits and re cuts, uh, and they agreed

568
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: to play the video after the nine pm watershed as

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00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: they had with Shares if I could turn back time,

570
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: which was slightly controversial because she's dancing on a battleship

571
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: in a g string for some reason, because she's fine,

572
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: Share you hide bound Clode poll that was supposed to

573
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: be delivered in orson Welles impression. I just got too

574
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: angry that you've slandered my beloved Share and having said

575
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: all that, we'll be right back with more too much

576
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: information right after this. Incidentally, this is now the second

577
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: time that a giant ass figures into God. I don't

578
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Speaker 1: know what you call this the narrative? What would we

579
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: call this a saga? Saga s mix? Yeah? Absolutely, If

580
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: you got a sir in your name, you deserve a saga. Okay,

581
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: I'll allow it. Well either way, this is the second

582
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: time a giant ass appears in the Baby Goutbacks saga. Um.

583
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's no way to even gracefully slide

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00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: into this. They made a giant inflatable ass. That's pretty glad,

585
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: that's graceful. Mix A lot was hated to fly. He

586
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: was afraid to fly, and because he had to drive everywhere,

587
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to play as many tour dates as

588
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: his label would have liked. So as a workaround, I

589
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: hope this was Rick Rubin's idea, but it probably wasn't.

590
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: They decided that they would tour a thirty foot lifelike

591
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 1: inflatable ass instead, and uh to bring this into the

592
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: realm of Elvis once again. This was not unlike the

593
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: time that the colonel towards Elvis's gold plated caddy around

594
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: in place of the actual artist. So I guess there's

595
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: a precedent. One of the many ways that sir mixes

596
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: like Elvis. They put this inflatable ass on top of

597
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: record stores and radio stations or just in the parking lot,

598
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: and then they would just blast the song. They went

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00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: one better doing a beach side record industry conference in

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Speaker 1: Santa Monica. Because the organizers refused to allow the giant

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00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: ass to be displayed, and indeed rudely rebuffed offers to

602
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: have it clad with a similarly massive pair of bikini bottoms,

603
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: Label Brass just rented a boat, docked it off the beach,

604
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: and towed the giant ass behind them while blasting Baby

605
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: Got Back. Uh. It is visible in the background of

606
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: a scene in Joel Schumacher's not the towing thing, but

607
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: the giant ass itself. Joel Schumacher's film Falling Down, starring

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Speaker 1: Michael Douglas. You can see the ass on top of

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Speaker 1: Virgin Record store on sunset. So it's been immortalized for

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00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: all eternity and in our hearts. Yeah and his goofy

611
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: is all of this actually sounds. Music historian Dan Charnas

612
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: cites this as among the moments that rap fully crossed

613
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: over into pop in a book called The Big Payback,

614
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: The History of the Business of Hip Hop, but Sadly,

615
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: what big gass goes up must come down. The big

616
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: ass was a target for local vandals and angry neighbors,

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00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: and it was frequently shot with bullets and arrows, which like,

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00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: who in l A is rolling around with a bow

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Speaker 1: and arrow? Whatever? Uh, disgruntled extras on terrible Western sets.

620
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, immersiveully A spare giant inflatable ass was made

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Speaker 1: a decoy or dummy ass if you will, much like

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Speaker 1: Air Force one. Uh. And enduring one of these apparently

623
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: scarily frequent incidents, Deaf American put out a press release

624
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: that read, in part, this shocking and senseless incident will

625
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: not affect plans for the butt Balloon to continue on

626
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: its current national tour of record store rooftops. Rick Rubin,

627
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: owner of American Recordings, has posted a ward for anyone

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00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: with information leading to the capture and conviction of the

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Speaker 1: butt assassinator. There are some real sick people in this world,

630
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Speaker 1: Ruben said. They commented, I want you know what I

631
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Speaker 1: want next from HBO or Hulu or whatever. I guess

632
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: Netflix is dropping a lot of the originals, but whoever

633
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: is making a niche music limited prestige series for a streamer?

634
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to be about the saga of the inflatable ass,

635
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: and whether or not Bill Simmons and where Yeah an

636
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: investigative podcast, and whether or not Rick Rubin's reward successfully

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00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: resulted in the apprehending of the men who shot Sir

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Speaker 1: mix Lots giant inflatable ass. I'm just singing this like

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Speaker 1: to the tune of the man who shot Liberty, who

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Speaker 1: shot Sir mix A Lost Giants, the sheriff shot shot

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Speaker 1: the ass. To be fair, if you're eleventeen and you're

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Speaker 1: driving around and you see in like a place that's

643
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: like not a major city, but like some you know,

644
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: just somewhere out of the way where there's not a

645
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: lot to do, and you you see a giant inflatable

646
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: but I mean the temptation to shoot it. I can

647
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: I can sort of understand that. Oh yeah, I mean

648
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: it's I would have done it. Are you kidding me?

649
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: If I was like an eighteen year old kid or

650
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: like off school at this time, I would have made

651
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: my life's mission to come after that mass. A boy

652
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: from the bottom to the top is how Jordan titled

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00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: this next one. So that's what we're sticking with. You

654
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: all need to know that for all of the indignities

655
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: endured by this giant inflatable but not to mention all

656
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: the backlash with the video. The song proved to be

657
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: an enormous success. It was released in May and spent

658
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: five weeks at number one that July, and Mix learned

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00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: about the honor while on stage at a gig in

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00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: Panama City, and he reportedly thought he was being pranked,

661
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: which is cute. Ultimately, it went on to become the

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00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: second best selling song in the United States in behind

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00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: Only Boys Two Men's End of the Road, and Baby

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Speaker 1: Got Back spent seven months on the Billboard Hot one hundred,

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Speaker 1: and it went double platinum just three months after its release,

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00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: sold a hundred and forty five thousand copies in a

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00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: single week and one a Grammy for Best Solo Rap Performance,

668
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: and it went on the spark a brief trend of

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Speaker 1: butt related rap songs, most notably Rex and Effects rump Shaker,

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00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: which you mentioned earlier. And Mix said in a two

671
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Speaker 1: thousand fourteen Redditt a m a that his favorite butt

672
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: related song was back That Acts Up by Juvenile So

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Speaker 1: Nicely Down Juvenile Um. Baby Got Back was parodied by

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00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: Jamie Foxx on in Living Color, in which he stars

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00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: as Trail Mix a lot, singing a song called Baby's

676
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: Got Snaps a very specific garbage. A slightly better one

677
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: was that it was also parodied in an episode of

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00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: Bill Ny the Science Guys, an episode about buoyancy and

679
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: I think Sir Mix actually appeared on this and did

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00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: a song called Bill's Got Vote excellent. Uh, And now

681
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna run down some of the ways that Sir

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00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: Mix has. You know, the man is nothing if not canny,

683
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: and he clearly loves money as we all do, and

684
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: has just licensed this song out to anyone and everyone

685
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: who can afford it. And Jordan, why don't give us

686
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: a rundown on who that actually is. Yeah, it's pretty

687
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: incredible that for all the controversy that this truck generated,

688
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: but it was released. It just was used to sell

689
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: so many things. Uh. In two thousand five, it was

690
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: used at a back to school commercial for Target, with

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00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: the lyrics change to baby Got Backpack, which is pretty good.

692
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: The opening line is we like backpacks and we cannot

693
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: lie with a cell phone pocket on the side. That

694
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: last part is kind of terrible, but baby Got Backpack

695
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Um. At a Washington Mutual Company Retreat.

696
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: In two thousand six, lenders sang a version that featured

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00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: the lyrics this is also pretty good. I like big

698
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: Bucks and I cannot lie you mortgage brothers can't deny,

699
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: while performers tossed play money into the crowd. I both

700
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: love and hate that. Yeah. Yeah, that's because it wasn't

701
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 1: like the wasn't all the bank bailouts like two years

702
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: later yep uh. In two thousand nine, Burger King used

703
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: the song in an ad promoting the SpongeBob SquarePants toys

704
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: that were included in their kids meals. The opener is

705
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: you could probably guess this. I like square butts and

706
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: I cannot lie, And the clip ends with Sir mix

707
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: a Lot in the background nodding his approval again for

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00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: mixed stands for body positivity, big butts, small butts, even

709
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: square butts. Ah, this is probably to me the strangest

710
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: Delta Airlines. On July, Elta Airlines tweeted a photo of

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00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: the back of a seven thirty seven plane with the

712
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: caption baby cut back, we like big jets and we

713
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: cannot lie. The seven thirty seven is ready to fly.

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00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, was there? Social media manager high. I cannot

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Speaker 1: imagine making the connection between sir mix a lot and

716
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Speaker 1: the back of an airplane, which from the back I

717
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: would imagine planes kind of all looked roughly the same.

718
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is the length. This is

719
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: when corporate Twitter started being weird and like it was

720
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: like when Wendy's Wendy's started snapping back at people and

721
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: that so on and so forth. So they were like,

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00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: let's get some of that traffic. Uh, let's do a

723
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: weird butt plane. Uh. This brings us. It's just from

724
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: weird butt plane. This brings us to Sarah Palin. In

725
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: Sarah Palin performed the song on Fox's The Masks singer

726
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: well dressed as a bear. This was right in the

727
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: early days of the pandemic, and in an article about

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00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: this performance by Dave Holmes appeared in Esquire. It included

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00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: this apt line. I have thought a lot about doomsday

730
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: scenarios in my many decades on this planet, but I

731
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: have to say I did not expect the apocalypse to

732
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: be this tacky. He's right, the darkest days of the

733
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: pandemic made even darker. Um and it baby got back again.

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00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: This blows my mind for considering how controversial initially was

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00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: appeared in so many kids movies two thousand four Scooby

736
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: Doo Two Monsters Unleashed, two thousand ten movie Yogi Bear.

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00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Cameron Diaz dances to this in the movie Charlie's Angels,

738
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: and it's been used also in Happy Feet. Jack asked

739
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: the movie Shrek and Shark's Tail, Oh and Friends, I forgot, uh,

740
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: Ross sings it to their baby to try to make

741
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: it laugh. How could I forget? But perhaps the most

742
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: controversial use of this song occurred in episode of Glee

743
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: that aired in January two thirteen. It got a little weird.

744
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: Not just the fact that they had a high school

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00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: glee club of mostly white kids covering Baby Got Back

746
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: Let's Hate lely Uh, it got weird because their version

747
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: of the song featured an acoustic backing track that sounded

748
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: very much like it was taken directly from a two

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00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: thousive cover by a singer songwriter named Jonathan Colton. Colton's

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00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: theory was that they just ripped the acoustic backing from

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00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: his original recording and let the Glee cast sing over it.

752
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: I don't think that there was ever it was ever

753
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: determined whether or not they took his guitar performance wholesale

754
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: or simply paid one of their musicians to turn in

755
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: a stunning simulacrum of it. But they definitely took his

756
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: arrangements and some of the new elements of melody that

757
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: he added in his version. And then when Colton complained

758
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: to the Glee producers because the people involved in this

759
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: show were uniformly garbage, he was told that they were

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00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: within their legal rights to do this and that he

761
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: should be happy for the exposure. Oh that's that last part.

762
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: That's even though they didn't credit him and didn't even

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00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: publicly acknowledge that it's his version. You should be happy

764
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: for the exposure, which we will also not give you. God,

765
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: I hate all all those people, so that's all a bummer.

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00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: But dio my bile back, because this is a funnier

767
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: and at least and moderately more innocent version of this. Uh.

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00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: Sometime in the early tens, a young law student named

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00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: Jonathan Nichols purchased a new cell phone, and before long

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00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: he started getting texts from strange numbers that were sending

771
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: him synth clips on YouTube or unsolicited bikini photos, and

772
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: he was getting calls from luxury car dealers like Ferrari, Lamborghini, Jaguar,

773
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: and they kept asking if Mr Anthony Ray would like

774
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: to come on by and take their cars for a

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00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: test drive. And then a random day in August, his

776
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: phone blew up with text wishing him a happy birthday.

777
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: It was not his birthday. Finally he put it together,

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00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Ray was Sir Mix a lot, Sir Mix a lot, Well,

779
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: Anthony Ray, it was Mix's birthday. His new phone had

780
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: Sir Mixes old number. When Mix was informed to this,

781
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: he responded with are you serious? That is hilarious, poor fellow,

782
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: but he felt like he truly felt like king for

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00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: a day. He should have he should have taken the

784
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: Ferrari dealership up and just like, yeah, I'll drive it.

785
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: And they don't want to call his bluff of being

786
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: like you're not Sir Mix a lot. Just see who

787
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: blinks first. I think he did text them back. I

788
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: was like, I'm a poor law student, but sure, I

789
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: love that story so much. Yes, Sir Mix has a

790
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: pretty good sense of humor about his lot in life.

791
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: In he performed a version of Baby Got Back with

792
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: the Seattle Symphony and they're a very famous composer. Who

793
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: is this, huckle Well, it's the kid or the grandson

794
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: of Sergei Profokey. Oh God, Sergey Prokofiev. That's why threw Yeah.

795
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: So Gabriel prokofy of is his grandson, but his granddad

796
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: is one of the most famous composers of all time,

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00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: largely in Russia but also over here. He did Peter

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00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: and the Wolf, which is like one of the first

799
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: pieces of orchestral symphonic music that most kids get exposed

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00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: to and they're like elementary school music class um. He

801
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: also did a great many other works. So, yeah, this

802
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: guy was invited to compose an orchestral piece based on

803
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: one of Seattle's musical icons. Could have chosen Jimmy Hendrix,

804
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: could have chosen Kurt Kobe, which chosen so many people.

805
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: He chose Sir Mix a lot, and they did this

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00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: orchestral version of Baby Got Back, which is just tremendous. Uh.

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00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: Sir Mix also teams with fellow Seattle icons Mud Honey

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00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: for a song on the Judgment Night soundtrack, which is

809
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: actually a hugely important soundtrack because it was like really

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00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,959
Speaker 1: one of the first times that they like. The whole

811
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: thing is they brought grunge and rock guys together with

812
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: hip hop artists, and basically it's kind of like conceptual

813
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: ground zero for rap rock, proceed by Public Enemy and

814
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Anthrax doing Bring the Noise. Yeah, but um yeah, no

815
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: One Aerosmith and well we don't talk about that. Um yeah.

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00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: Judgment Night Is is actually a hugely inframential soundtrack. It's

817
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: very interesting. I gotta check that out. And speaking of

818
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: nineties uh, not grunge bands, but nineties bands. Mix had

819
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: started a short lived group with members of the presidents

820
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: of the United States of America of Peaches fame, you know,

821
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: going to the Country. Yeah, um, but I guess they

822
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: split up before they ever actually released anything, which is sad.

823
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: I remain unclear about whether or not this was a

824
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: real musical venture or just a press ploy. But Sir

825
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: Mix is still out there performing and in recent years

826
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: he crafted a ten minute version A Baby Got Back

827
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: that he plays to audiences that he deems are into it,

828
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: so he only plays it to especially intentive audience as

829
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: a guest. Um, oh, it all seems pretty good to

830
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: be Sir Mix a lot. Speaking to Cosmo in he

831
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: said every reality TV show that to me to be

832
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: on I turned down. They keep looking for a train

833
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: wreck and my life is not a train wreck, and

834
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: I know they wanted to be. The perception is this

835
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: guy can't have money, but I will fake it to

836
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: give him the train wreck they want and basically ruined

837
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: my career. And he's right. Mix owns the publishing two

838
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: Baby Got Back, and as we saw, he licenses it

839
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: out every chance he can, TVs, movies, ads, samples, and

840
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj is Anaconda song, et cetera, which means that

841
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: the song is so far yielded over a hundred million dollars.

842
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm unclear how much that went to him, but presumably

843
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: a decent cut. So as a result, Sir Mix a

844
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: lot doesn't feel the need to release albums, but he's

845
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: still active in the studio on occasion um but apparently

846
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: because he doesn't need the money, he records music that

847
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: he deems has integrity. That's his quote of his most

848
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: famous creation. Mix believes Baby Got Back would not make

849
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: the same sort of splash that it did in the

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00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: nineties because the conversation around representation, body image, and body

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Speaker 1: positivity has changed, you know, for the better now, he says,

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Speaker 1: because the body is not only accepted, it's expected. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure that song would make the same impact as

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Speaker 1: it did in two, which is arguably like that. That's great,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad he took the outrage, the slings

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Speaker 1: and arrows of outrageous fortune. I'm glad he took all

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Speaker 1: of that on literal arrows in this case. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: he did that for all of us because it is

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Speaker 1: an inarguable touchstone in changing body standards. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: high falutin moral impact, maybe somewhat deluded by it's light ubiquity. Ubiquity, yes,

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Speaker 1: or I was going to say the chin inflatable ass

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Speaker 1: or the number of corporations that have lined up to

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Speaker 1: co opt it, but we can't take that away from Mix. Well, folks,

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Speaker 1: we have reached the end of this episode. We have

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Speaker 1: gotten to the bottom of the matter, and now it's

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Speaker 1: time to put this behind us. Not even a chuckle, no,

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Speaker 1: just now, uh well, any any final thoughts for us? No,

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Speaker 1: I just want to hear that presidents the United States

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Speaker 1: collaboration MIX if you're out there well, and that Prestige

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Speaker 1: series about the attack on the inflatable ask if they

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Speaker 1: ever find the guy who did it, and someone collected

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Speaker 1: Rick Ruben's cash reward. So if anyone Hulu preferably HBO

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Speaker 1: you want to contact us about that, you know you

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Speaker 1: can reach out. I'll take a meeting. Um tweet at

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Speaker 1: us at ass alliteration. Thanks for listening, folks, this has

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