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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BED three

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Speaker 1: Live from our Tommy John Holmes Studios. I am Chad

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Speaker 1: Millman of the Action Network. This is our Sunday night episode.

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Speaker 1: We will review our favorite five picks that we put

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Speaker 1: into the Favorites contest. We will dissect why we left

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Speaker 1: some games out. We will preview the early lines we

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Speaker 1: already like for week eleven. I'm joined as always buy

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Speaker 1: my co host, my companion Mike and padre My BFF

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Speaker 1: professional better Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: L sim in, Hey chat, how are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Brother? There were points today where we were likely to

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Speaker 1: be four and zero. We were likely to be zero

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Speaker 1: with the two teams that we lost that we lost with.

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Speaker 1: We were likely to be two and two with the

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Speaker 1: two teams that we won with. As it stands, we

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Speaker 1: are exactly two and two somehow today, Simon, the streak

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Speaker 1: of Favorites covering Road Favorites covering has come to an end.

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Speaker 1: At least that was true in the early window. Today. Reminder,

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Speaker 1: road Favorites were road favorites heading into today's games have

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Speaker 1: been sixteen games over five hundred. They were one and

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Speaker 1: three in the early window. The Favorites were road favorites.

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Speaker 1: The bad news we faded the one team that won,

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Speaker 1: are our two losses on the day. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the road favorite we faded

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Speaker 1: because when we chatted this morning to decide on our

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Speaker 1: final picks, this was the one game you were all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden having second thoughts about, which completely threw me,

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Speaker 1: totally surprised me. I am talking about the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 1: plus four and a half against the Buffalo Bills. That

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Speaker 1: was the one routine that covered in the early window.

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Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts and why all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: you got antsy.

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Speaker 2: Other than Josh Allen Joe Flacco, But it was Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: It was just the Josh Allen part of it where

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Speaker 2: I was like, are we overthinking this one here? And

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Speaker 2: it clearly we did.

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Speaker 1: The Bills make me want something, throw your hands something,

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Speaker 1: so throw your hair back.

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Speaker 2: Come on now, the Bills. I'm making it happen now.

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Speaker 2: The better cub, even though it wasn't a great day

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Speaker 2: for him, he was struggling at one point. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you took away that pick six. It would have

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Speaker 2: been a thirteen ten game, the Colts would have the ball,

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Speaker 2: but he did throw that pick six, So seventeen thirteen

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco had to keep it throwing the ball and

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Speaker 2: that was not a position we wanted to be and

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Speaker 2: we wanted them to run the ball, and instead they

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Speaker 2: it's Appearum, Joe Flack goes turned into a pumpkin since

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Speaker 2: he's become the starter. This is the Joe flatkill we

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Speaker 2: all knew and love, who had retired. I couldn't get

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Speaker 2: went on a crazy run. He's back to what he

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Speaker 2: was before that crazy run. And uh that that's unfortunate

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Speaker 2: because it was a good number, and you know at

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Speaker 2: it was just like, are we overthicking this betting against

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Speaker 1: Over Look, to put a finer point on it, I

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Speaker 1: as we thought it would go. The Colts dominated on

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Speaker 1: There were two drives that mattered. Look Jonathan Taylor, by

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Speaker 1: And don't forget Joe Flacco throws the pick six. Then

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Speaker 1: So to me, this game came down to Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: a sudden, they're up twenty to thirteen, and like it's

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Speaker 1: still the Colts were in it the whole time. It's

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Speaker 1: in inches. Joe Flacco gets sacked. You're right it was

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Speaker 1: not for Josh Allen or Joe flaccoh we were right there.

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Speaker 2: The bills make me a water. You even mentioned he

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Speaker 2: And not that I knew that we were dead and

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Speaker 2: Josh would figure it out. It took him a half,

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Speaker 2: Like you said, he was bad to start at the game,

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Speaker 2: two talent in the league for a reason. He's incredible,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, definitely a bad bet.

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Speaker 1: It's it's almost unfair what he can do. So good

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Speaker 1: for the Bills, Good for Matt.

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Speaker 2: Mitchell, good for you.

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell really excited for him.

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Speaker 2: Dirt wounds before we come on the show, and.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of by the way, Matt Mitchell like.

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Speaker 2: I'm the producer.

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Speaker 1: I don't ever make comments about your picks, but I

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Matt Mitchell really give us a lot of confidence

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Speaker 2: I mean, it did it did well. You're talking about

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Speaker 2: they're up ten to nothing in ten to three. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it's still if it never felt right. But you're

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Speaker 2: red zone struggles continued though. That's what it is, just

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Speaker 2: bumming me out. It's like they just can't complete these drives.

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Speaker 2: They dominated Tampa in every way. I mean Tampa, they

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Speaker 2: you let them hang into this game, they'll steal it

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Speaker 2: week before. It's just they're really great at playing, making

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Speaker 2: But they also got crazy lucky, and we had the muffkick.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, they were dead, and they muffed that punt, and.

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Speaker 1: To open the second half, the Bucks were down and

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Speaker 2: On still, though doesn't matter at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: fucking Moody, like this guy misses three kicks and just

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Speaker 2: kills us. Like it's just so brutal. When we play

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Speaker 2: these numbers, these favorites and these key numbers, and we

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Speaker 2: don't get the lucky breaks where it's like, come on,

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Speaker 2: like this is the guy's worst career day, and so

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Speaker 2: happens a good day, we bet on him. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was. I was bummed by the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: We should have taken the five and a half and

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Speaker 2: we didn't get the five and a half. We got

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Speaker 2: greedy and thought we were smart in the book and

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Speaker 2: took the six and a half. Or at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, the five and a half was probably

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Speaker 2: the right number, right, like he makes two of those

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Speaker 2: taking that six and a half.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, even if if we had taken the five

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Speaker 1: and a half, even with all that, don't forget the

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Speaker 1: Bucks had a fourth down in their own territory. They

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Speaker 1: went for it. Nick Bosa is hanging on Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: literally hanging on the guy. It's one of the best

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Speaker 1: defensive players in all of football. Baker Mayfield is such

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Speaker 1: a fucking baller. He's stiff arming the dude dragging him

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Speaker 1: as he rolls right and he completes a miraculous fourth

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Speaker 1: down pass. If he doesn't do that, there was enough

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Speaker 1: time that even if the Niners had gained ten yards,

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Speaker 1: they were gonna have to kick field goal, like they

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Speaker 1: were gonna be conservative. But the Bucks had enough timeouts

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Speaker 1: that you and I both had the five and a half.

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Speaker 1: I was still like crossing my fingers as Baker is

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Speaker 1: about to go down, but before he completes that pass,

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Speaker 1: and like that weird slow motion moment where your entire

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Speaker 1: bet is in the balance. I was thinking, in all

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Speaker 1: those moments, it's like in a movie when everything goes

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Speaker 1: This is like the ten thousand hours of betting. You

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Speaker 1: know the situation. And I'm like, okay, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: the ball back, We're gonna have to kick a field goal.

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Speaker 1: We'll be up by six. We're gonna lose this contest,

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Speaker 1: but at least we'll be in the five and a half.

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Speaker 1: Fucking Baker like not only completes that pass, but then

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Speaker 1: there's like three straight penalties. The Bucks tie it. I'm like, okay, great,

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Speaker 1: in overtime. And then Jake Moody finally does his job,

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Speaker 1: like that was excruciating. That was an excruciating beat.

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Speaker 2: It is, but like giving more love to Baker. He

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Speaker 2: has shown me so much right now these last couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks, like to go to toe with the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really fun. And you know, of all

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he put his neck off Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 1: They're seven and two and they're three and oh straight

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Speaker 2: Their schedule gets brutal from here on out. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that was obviously no easy game either, But it's just

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Speaker 2: easily have won the NFC. So they still can. Obviously

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Speaker 2: they play the Eagles on Thursday. But Pittsburgh, now, like

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Speaker 1: They got Baltimore this week. Obviously they'll be home underdogs

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Speaker 2: I mean that drive, Like, again, we talk all the time,

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Speaker 2: vintage Peyton Manny but it felt like that, like this

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Speaker 2: it's just when you watch, you just know and it's like,

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Speaker 2: I know, I hate that he's in my favorite team's division,

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Speaker 1: He is a amazing He's just so good. But that

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Speaker 1: three and a half, let's give it up for Saints

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Speaker 1: interim head coach and special teams coach Darren Rizzy because

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Speaker 1: after the game, Darren Rizzy admitted that when he got

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Speaker 2: And you know, Robinson had an incredible game. I don't

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Speaker 1: almost played out exactly like that. The Falcons missed multiple

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Speaker 2: I told you I was worried about that touchdown, So

432
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: him making the field goals have been nice because they

433
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: would have just been up three, and I'm like, okay,

434
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: Like now we have Derek Carr taking those deep shots

435
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: and if he misses, who cares. We still cover our number.

436
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: But yeah, I had a decent amount on their money

437
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: line as well, especially on our money line around Robin,

438
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: and I thought we would get there with the Saints.

439
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 2: When they put up three in the second half, it's

440
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: like I didn't feel like we deserved it or even

441
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: had the chance to get in there. But once again,

442
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: their defense really stepped up. That Saints team, and we

443
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: talk all the time that's the difference of having a

444
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: coach you like and you want to play hard for.

445
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: And that felt like a game where the team played

446
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: hard for that coach, where you know, there's some other

447
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: games you could talk about if you want, where he

448
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: just felt like guys simply quit on their team and

449
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: their coaches.

450
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: Last stat for you, the Saints averaged ten point seven

451
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: six yards for passing attempt. That's great, that is insane.

452
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: And shoutout we only won one by three.

453
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Shout out to Nick Giffen, by the way, who

454
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: not only had this in luck rankings, also had the

455
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: Cowboys Eagles under in the luck rankings, also had the

456
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: Jaguars vikings in the luck rankings that were under also

457
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: had He talked about this on convinced me this morning.

458
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: If you're not watching, you're missing because he had Derek

459
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 1: Carr under half an interception in this game and had

460
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: a great breakdown about how the Falcons can't get pressure,

461
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: so when Car isn't pressured, he's less likely than the

462
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: league average to throw an interception. All right, we just

463
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: talked about some teams that really quit, and so that's

464
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: going to be impacting how we think about them going forward.

465
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: We have the Rams minus one and half tomorrow night.

466
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: Thank God. Our last game out was the Jets minus

467
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: two and a half. Do you want to talk about that.

468
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: For a second? Swinging and miss that was a bad one.

469
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: And it's like typical where like you always joke about

470
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: you're getting bullied. But I wish I could have dug

471
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: in my feet on it. But I got where everyone

472
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: was coming from and what their view was, and I

473
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: should have trusted my instincts and thought this line should

474
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 2: be three. With Arizona, the books had hung a bad line. Instead,

475
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: I went against that thought I had made a bad

476
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: read that the professionals were smart on it, and they weren't.

477
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: That is a team that is simply quit in everywhere.

478
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 2: And Arizona the Kyler experience. When he's on, he is on.

479
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: Like in that game, I think at one point he

480
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: was twenty for twenty one passing like he.

481
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: Was really locking seventeen straight past as new Arizona Cardinals record.

482
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: He might have completed more, but that's when I saw

483
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: the record.

484
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: No, he was really impressive. And you know we always

485
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: joke like you can tell a lot from the early

486
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: in the game, how two teams are they drove the field,

487
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: got two touchdowns, Jets drive the field, get two field goals,

488
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: and like we always say, it's over from that point forward.

489
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: I think they eventually went up twenty one to six,

490
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: and offensively they could have done whatever they wanted. Arizona,

491
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: they just looked like such a better team Defensively. We

492
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: talked about it like they're a team of no names.

493
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they have Buddha Baker obviously, but yeah, Gannons

494
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: really turned that defense around into his identity of they

495
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: give up yards, but they don't surrender those touchdowns, and

496
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: they've kind of had that identity this whole season. So impressive.

497
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: It's what four straight wins for him now the Cardinals

498
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: and Kyler so I keep waiting there for a de

499
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: fall the other way, but it's it's not happening. This

500
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: is a legit team. They deserve to be in the

501
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: winning the NFC West right now. Like they're the best

502
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: team in that division, no doubt.

503
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: Six and four. Two things. One. Anytime you say Buddha Baker,

504
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: he's one of the best defensive players in football, and

505
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: this year he's sort of playing like it. I always

506
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: feel whenever I hear my kid and I whenever we're

507
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: watching these games, we're always like you know so and

508
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: so college, John Simpson College, you know, and we'll mention

509
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: like the most random people to see if we can

510
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: get it right. He said Buddha Baker in my head,

511
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm like Buddha Baker, the way he plays, he should

512
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: have gone to LSU or Alabama. I'll open it up

513
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: to the YouTube chat as well as Evan to see

514
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: if anyone can get the right college for Buddha Baker.

515
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: Speaking of teams, Wow, someone just got it Washington. It's right.

516
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of teams that quit, boy Dallas Cowboys, thank god

517
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: we didn't have a conversation about putting them in the contest.

518
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: No, and I won't even tell you. I won't even

519
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: tell the people the other game you were trying to

520
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: get in there because you were losing your goddamn mind.

521
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Well, you're right. I was tempted by

522
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: the Titans. All week we had avoided the Titans. I

523
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: was tempted by the Titans just because I was going

524
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: to mention it was the one game that Nick Giffin

525
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: and the luck rankings completely whiffed on and all week,

526
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: like he had been hyping it in the slack channel,

527
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: I was saying, this is gross We're not going to

528
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: do it. He talked about her to convince me we

529
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: avoided it. I'm proud of us, so good for that.

530
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: You're like, I know, it's gross, let's just put it in.

531
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: It's gross.

532
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it wasn't. I wasn't that cavalier. It

533
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: were like, if we're going to take one out. You said,

534
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: if we're gonna take one out, you'd rather with the Jets,

535
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: And I said, really, over the types And we ended

536
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: up leaving it as it is with the Rams for

537
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. The one game that I feel like we

538
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: missed on and we just sort of were cowardly even

539
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: though we handicapped it perfectly, was the Broncos We need.

540
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that was really fun. I mean we didn't

541
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: even talk about that. That was by far the most

542
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: insane game of the day. As much as I want

543
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: to take a victory lap on Dallas sucking and the

544
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: Eagles winning, I don't want to punch down right now.

545
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: Our producer Gift knows he doesn't need it. He doesn't care.

546
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: I don't think Cowboys care right now. They're just like, yeah, whatever,

547
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: we'll get a good draft pick. Yeah, Like you know,

548
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. We joke all the time they're gonna

549
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: get caught by some team, but they just find a way.

550
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: And what was it did a get was Denver up

551
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: fourteen three at one point? Yeah, okay, there was something

552
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: like that.

553
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: They were up. I can't remember what it was, but

554
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: they were definitely Yeah, it was fourteen to three.

555
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: I think they're beating the crap out of them, and

556
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: somehow Spags makes the adjustments. Bo Knicks, who I think

557
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: he started the game, you know, throwing for one hundred

558
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: ninety two yards to two touchdowns. At that point, they

559
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: figured him out and they shut it down. I don't

560
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: think he scored another point the rest of the game, right,

561
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: They won sixteen fourteen, So they did. Yeah, even on

562
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: their worst day, which was today, like we talked about,

563
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: they came off a short week overtime game. They looked sluggish,

564
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: they looked tired, They did not play well. Still played

565
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: a full game. And that's what's so special about this

566
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: Chiefs team. And you know, with joke all the time

567
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: about that Brady run with that perfect team and the

568
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: pressure you feel that that team was not coming off

569
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: of anything like this is a team coming off two

570
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, now they're a perfect nine to zero. This

571
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: Kansas City team, it is truly mental how special this

572
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: team is and this everything between the coaching and the

573
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: players everything, I know, we're gonna we're gonna going to

574
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: keep doing what we've been doing. Is we take more.

575
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: Holmes is a short favorite, and we faced him as

576
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: a big dog, and I'm with you, I'm pissed me

577
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: to have it in there because it just it went

578
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: right into what we talked about him. He plays these

579
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: ugly teams close and he beats up on the good teams.

580
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing about Mahomes, it's it's bizarre. Like

581
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, they beat the crap out of them.

582
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: They played really good against the Ravens that game. Today

583
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: they did not play good. It was tough in every way,

584
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: the denvers all over them, and still they found a way.

585
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: And yeah, you can say they got lucky, but that

586
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: was a blocked field goal. That's not luck, that's coaching scheme.

587
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: It's something they saw on tape and they attacked it.

588
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was That was probably the most fun game.

589
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: That was the game. I definitely I jumped out of

590
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: my scene shot it because I was like Holy shit.

591
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: I can't believe they blocked that because I thought they

592
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 2: were dead too, just like the announcers. So pretty crazy

593
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: Chiefs fans.

594
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's use that to transition into the

595
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: week eleven games. Reminder, Simon and I are two and

596
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: two heading into Money Out of Football. We're on the

597
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: Rams at minus one and a half in the contest.

598
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: The numbers moved up obviously tree and by the way,

599
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: that ultimately was the factor. Like we liked the number

600
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: on the Rams at one and a half, it was

601
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: two and a half in the contest this morning, so

602
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: we decided to lock in that closing line value Week eleven.

603
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't even want to say the games I like,

604
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: because the game that I want to talk about is

605
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: the game that you just mentioned, the Chiefs and the

606
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. In Buffalo, the Chiefs are one point favorites.

607
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: Pro Football's two superpowers renew their classic rivalry. Everything says,

608
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: of course, we want to take the Bills. Yet we

609
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: can't because we're going to have to take Patrick Mahomes

610
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: as a one point favorite on a now fifteen game

611
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: winning streak with a score differential in their undefeated season

612
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: so far of fifty six points, which is the lowest

613
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: score differential of any team that has ever started undefeated

614
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: this many games. It's why we bet against the Chiefs

615
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: this past week because they are not blowing teams out.

616
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: But like, what the fuck do we do here? Simon?

617
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: This is easy bet. I am on bet three six '

618
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: five in New Jersey. The line has flipped to plus

619
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: one and a half on the Chiefs. Hammer that number

620
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: on the Chiefs. We talked about you just you don't think, well,

621
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: Mahomes is the dog. Don't ever think it. You take

622
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: the number. So I could have been talking into this

623
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: that the Bills where the dog. That's where the value

624
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: would have been. The profession has already come in. They've

625
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: already hit this number. It's plus one and a half

626
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: right now for this Chiefs team. Give it to me.

627
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if I could put more than a thousand

628
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: bucks on a teaser, this would be a huge teaser

629
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: play for me. It's seven and a half on this

630
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: Chiefs team. But unfortunately that's not gonna be happening for

631
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: the next at least two or three days. So I'll

632
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: grab it early. This Chiefs one and a half, I'll

633
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: grab as much as I can even if this keep

634
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: going up like we've seen it before, right, it was

635
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: like that forty nine er scenario they go to two

636
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: and a half by kick golf. So maybe I'll get

637
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: a little greedy and weight. Maybe this more Bills money

638
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: will come in. But we don't overthink these spots. We

639
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: take mahomes the dog. Even if we lose this game.

640
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: Long term, it's a winner.

641
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't argue with it. Even if they were

642
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: at one point favorite, I still probably would have played

643
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: the Chiefs.

644
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: We know this Bills team though. That's another thing else

645
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: pissed off. Today. We talked about you bet the Bills

646
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: against bad teams and nothing to stand out more this year.

647
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: They've just beat up on bad teams this year. But

648
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: we said they struggle against good teams this year and

649
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: they've played good competition. They've struggled against them. So trying

650
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 2: hard out to ever think this one because I am

651
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: with you, I don't want it right away. I wanted

652
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: to be on the Bills because I thought we're gonna

653
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: get them as a dog. But no, the professionals are

654
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: the public whoever came in early has dictated this happy

655
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: to bet this Chiefs team at plus one and a half.

656
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: Right now, I know the right side is the winning side,

657
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: shout out Scooch. But the Colts were the right side

658
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: in that game. They cover that game if they don't

659
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: have two interceptions, a fumble and all that that ends

660
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: in a sack and by the way, and a touchdown

661
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: to Josh Downs, their best receiver that he drops, that

662
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: is a walk in touchdown.

663
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: I agree with Matt Mitchell who says it's a ludicrous tack.

664
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: What does Matt Mitchell know? We also mentioned the Niners.

665
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: Niners are seven point favorites at home against Seattle. I

666
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: don't know that I've seen enough from the Niners at

667
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: this point to make them a seven point favorite in

668
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: the divisions. The team coming off a bye.

669
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: Crazy. It's crazy because even if they covered today, said

670
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: they did cover, I would make this line like six

671
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: and a half. But they didn't cover it. So it's like,

672
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: how do you not make this line five and a half.

673
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: It's seven? It opens at seven, So I I guess

674
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker. I'm missing something here. I'll take the

675
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: seven right away. Like you just said, who are this

676
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: forty nine ers team to be getting that seven? I

677
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: know the Seahawks have been bad and everything. We get it,

678
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: But like Chad just said, they're coming off a bye

679
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: in a divisional game. That's a must win for the

680
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: Seahawks team. They are so desperate they know this is

681
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: their season in this game. So, yeah, the seven, this

682
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: has to come down. Is this really gonna go up

683
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: to seven and a half? Is this really gonna keep

684
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: going up? I don't think so. I think it's gonna

685
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: go down by Tuesday. So I'm with you on that one.

686
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 2: I'll grab the seven. Now.

687
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: The other game that interested me, I know, we just

688
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: talked about it. I don't know how we don't take

689
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: Cleveland plus three against against New Orleans. It's in New Orleans.

690
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: I know it's jamis, but I don't have a fear

691
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: of that one. Like the come down for the Saints,

692
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: it's still the Saints. It's still a team that just

693
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: lost seven in a row. It's a team that had

694
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: the perfect spot and still, by the way, needed a

695
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: lot of luck to win this game. Like that defense

696
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: that the Browns have is the epitome of the defense

697
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: that gives Derek Carr a hard time. If I can

698
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: get the Cleveland Browns as an underdog with one more

699
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: week of Jamis prepping to take over. I'm okay with that.

700
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm laughing because that week, I don't know how

701
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: it helps Jamis. Either we're gonna get a good Jamis

702
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: Day or getting a bad Jamis day. Mean you know that.

703
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: Bet No, we'd have no idea what we're gonna get

704
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: out of them. But I agree with you. This is

705
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: more to me just about playing the number. Yeah, I

706
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm gonna bet this one for real

707
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: this week because there's other games I do like a

708
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 2: lot more. And again Jamis, I still feel like, I mean,

709
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: you got away when I gets the Ravens and it's

710
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: like I can't get over that. The Kyle Hamilton drop

711
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: just always will pop in my head with him for

712
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: the rest of the year, where it's like that's who

713
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 2: he is, Like that really is who he is. He's

714
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: gonna throw a bunch of amazing passes and then just

715
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: one absolute meatball right to the defender that either they're

716
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: gonna catch it or thing's going to go right through

717
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: their hands. So yeah, play the number. I'm already seeing

718
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: a couple two and a half's pop up, Chad, So

719
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: you're actually on the smart side round. This number is moving,

720
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: So I would say, if you agree with me and Chad,

721
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: definitely grab the three now because it's going down.

722
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: What do we do with Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Pittsburgh is

723
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: a three point underdog at home. It's the raw ras spot. Yeah,

724
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: Baltimore is streaking right now. It's it feels like we're

725
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: tempting fate. I know, percentage wise, we're supposed to keep

726
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: betting the Steelers, but it does feel like we are

727
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: tempting fate a little bit. And also, here's one thing

728
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: that I think is really important. The Steelers have been

729
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: much better when Alex Highsmith was playing. He went out

730
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the Commander's game and was walking

731
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: on one leg off the field the Steelers defensive end.

732
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: So I do think I'm not quite anxious to bet

733
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: it until I know his status.

734
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm against total speculation, but he'll look like he

735
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: stepped on Daniel's ankle and rolled his own ankle.

736
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, rare.

737
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: That's a quick turnaround. So I'm with you on that.

738
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: That's definitely negative, but it's another game where you can,

739
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: if you want, you can be patient. I'm gonna grab

740
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: the three now, just because in the case of professional

741
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: side's coming on Pittsburgh. But this is gonna be a

742
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: pros rust Jos. I mean this is every year we

743
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: do this. Every year we're in the exact spot me

744
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: and you have bet this number at three, three and

745
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: a half on Mason Rudolph or Kenny Pickett and Pittsburgh

746
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: at home against Lamar and we've covered that number. So

747
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: I know you're I get what you're saying right now,

748
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: but you're gonna come around. This is no doubt this

749
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: is gonna be one of our picks. But it's all

750
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: about the value. If this is two and a half,

751
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: I have no issue now forcing this one in at

752
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: three and a half. It's too tempting to pass on

753
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: that number, especially where we just know this this Ravens team.

754
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: You know what, top two, number one offense in football,

755
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: terrible defense, They're just terrible. Like Chase, I know he's special.

756
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: He looked like he was playing at different speed and

757
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: I know that its youth is the game changer because

758
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: again when the Eagles played against him, Mitchell shut him down.

759
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: Like when you have a young, fast corner. It's different

760
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: with Chase, though he looks so much faster than this

761
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: secondary and now they might be without Kyle Hamilton on

762
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: the Ravens side. How do we not factor that in

763
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: as well? That's an even bigger loss than anything when

764
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: we can add into that, Like, yeah, I'm trying not

765
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: to overthink this one. I think we should take the

766
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: three now because I do see the professional money coming in.

767
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 2: But people out there that are just one one better,

768
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: they only bet one time a week. You can't be

769
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: patient because I could see this on up the three

770
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: and a half. Because this just feels like such a

771
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: public side of this Ravens team. I mean, we talk

772
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: all the time about that trend Lamar three and under.

773
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: It's usually an auto bet for me and Chad. Just

774
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: in this spot, it's not.

775
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: You were talking about Jamar Chase, by the way, I like,

776
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: for a second, I'm like, Chase, who is he talking?

777
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: And then I remember Chase Chase Chase in the Bengals.

778
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: What other games are you looking at? Uh?

779
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: Just it's just like, Okay, these games pop out. We

780
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: said we thought the that's quit. The Jets right now

781
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: are minus three against the Colts. How do you feel

782
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: like rolling it back with Joe Blackowa.

783
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: I feel fine, it's on my list. I almost felt

784
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: like I was going to be ridiculed, I know, but

785
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: I was kicked off the show if I mentioned taking.

786
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: We're just betting numbers here, so that that's an early

787
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: number I'll grab now, just because that Jets team really

788
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: looked like they quit on me that.

789
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: I was talking to Coward. I was doing his show

790
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and I told him the wise guys are

791
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: on the Jets and he goes, no, he goes why,

792
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 1: and I gave him all the reasons. He goes, yeah,

793
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: all those makes sense if they've got a coach who's

794
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: good and a team the police, but they don't. And

795
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: you know what, he was one hundred percent.

796
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's great. Okay, just ones that jumped out

797
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: to me. Chargers are minus two and a half at

798
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: home against the Bengals Sunday night. Yep, that's really interesting.

799
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 2: That number is really interesting.

800
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: I wrote it down own. My first instinct with Cincinnati

801
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: plus two and a half.

802
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, My first instinct was Charger is because

803
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: it's so the Bengals is so tempting. I thought that

804
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: would be a pick. So that's why I have a

805
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: modeled at So that's again another game where I'm just

806
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: questioning my own model because it's like, maybe I'm giving

807
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: too much respect to this Bengals team because they have

808
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: had some really close losses, but when they play against

809
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: really good teams other than the Ravens, they've kind of

810
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: been rolled, right, like the Eagles absolutely rolled them. So

811
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: that's that to me, is just the number that popped out,

812
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: like is this really good? We're gonna go up to

813
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: three plus three. They're gonna get so much Bengals money

814
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: against this Chargers team. So that's just an interesting number

815
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: that jump.

816
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: I expect T Higgins to be back.

817
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: That's fair if he is back now changing my opinion,

818
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: but if this is two and a half and there's

819
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: no T Higgins, I love this Chargers like they match

820
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: up really well, not only offensively, but defensively I think

821
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: as well, Like they're their front can attack this Bengals front,

822
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: like we know that's the Bengal's weakness. They just can't

823
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: block for him right now. So just an early line

824
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: that jumped out.

825
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: To me orders giving up a craptastic garbage time back

826
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: door overcover to the Tennessee Titans with forty one seconds

827
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: left today.

828
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 2: That was brutal.

829
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: That was in that moment. My dog started whining because

830
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: she wanted like a little chewy, and I was like,

831
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: I cannot do this with you right now. And my

832
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: son was like, why are you being so mean to her?

833
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to be like because I just

834
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: lost this fucking total because will Levis did the one

835
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: thing he can't do for fifty nine fucking minutes. Yeah,

836
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: I tried to keep myself together. I just said, she's

837
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear the whining right now. That's

838
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: all I said.

839
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: Before we go. Just got to get your earlier read

840
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: on it, because I'm betting. I already bet the Packers

841
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: a minus six and a half. What's your view on this? Like,

842
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: isn't that a huge smash back for Green Bay? It

843
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: could not be worse vibes for Chicago it is, and

844
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: now your coming off of bye week, dude, it.

845
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: Is such bad vibes there. The fact the Bears hired

846
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, they hired, they kept the coach. They

847
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: have wasted a year of Caleb Williams. They have possibly

848
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: wasted two years because next year he will have to

849
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: unlearn all the bad habits, rebuild chemistry with a team

850
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: and a receiver corps and DJ Moore specifically, who has

851
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: clearly lost faith in the guy, and he will have

852
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: to not be trigger happy because he is afraid that

853
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: he is going to get his head taken off by

854
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: teams like the New England Patriots, who sacked him nine

855
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: times today. By the way, another excruciating beat, Sean Kerner

856
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: gave out twenty nine and a half pass attempts under

857
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: Caleb got to thirty on the last player of the game.

858
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: So it like this team is terrible. But six and

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