WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE @ 2019 Senior Bowl - Day 3

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Showboys on

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<v Speaker 1>ther war room for in center news and draft analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now your hosts Dane Brugler,

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<v Speaker 1>David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, good morning to

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<v Speaker 1>you or good afternoon to you wherever you might be listening. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Draft show here from Mobile. Brian brought us

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<v Speaker 1>David Hellman Dane Brugler for one final time as we

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<v Speaker 1>get you ready for thirsty practice here in Mobile, Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>after a saggy Wednesday practice where we were unable to

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<v Speaker 1>h evaluate where we're at to to see practice. So

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<v Speaker 1>but we have our ways, right, Dane Brugler, Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>have our ways to go back and watch practice when

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<v Speaker 1>they when they try and kick us out of practice. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Technology is a great thing. It's great to know people,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in the league. Dane's got that pall. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>That's the great thing about being in the scouting community

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<v Speaker 1>is that you have friends that appreciate that you work

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<v Speaker 1>just as hard as they do. And so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get into some of the Wednesday practice even though we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get a chance to put eyes on it live.

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<v Speaker 1>Dane had the opportunity and also in the NFL. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>on the ESPN you yesterday we were able to watch

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but Dane was able to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and bang through some tapes. So we'll get through that

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of talk about some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>he saw yesterday. Get you ready for today again another

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<v Speaker 1>practice at lad People Stadium. It will be a full

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<v Speaker 1>padded practice whether it should not be a problem today

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<v Speaker 1>and we will be there. I will have coverage of

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<v Speaker 1>a practice report. David Hellman will be have some information

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<v Speaker 1>from there as well, and Dane Burgler as always you

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<v Speaker 1>can follow him on Twitter with some great insight of

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<v Speaker 1>things that he's doing. So Dane, I'm going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>it over to you. Just just overview again North South

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<v Speaker 1>practices at South Alabama yesterday, the indoor facility, things that

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<v Speaker 1>that stood out from you. You've talked a lot about matchups.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's the one thing I think from the

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl. When you watch the Senior Bowl, you get

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of it is about a lot of one

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<v Speaker 1>on one matchups, and you know, so you get some

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<v Speaker 1>small school guys going up against some big school guys

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<v Speaker 1>vice versa. You know that kind of thing, but talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the things that you saw from the

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<v Speaker 1>tape yesterday that really maybe stock up guys, stock down guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Things like that you saw that you can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lead us into what we're gonna see today. Well, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and this is something we every Senior Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to see improvement week from practice practice practice Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be tough the first day. Everyone's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>getting their feet wet and getting acclimated the setting and

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<v Speaker 1>the situation and the coaching. So you want to see Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>practice too is a big practice, right because you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see these guys really really okay. Now they've taken

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching a little bit exactly. Yeah, and you get

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<v Speaker 1>the first practice jitters right of the way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's get going and let's see who stands out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd tell you what. Penny Hart continues to press. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no one can cover him. And you know, as much

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<v Speaker 1>as we were excited about Andy Isabella coming of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>and Isabella has been he's been good, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's been I don't think he's exceeded our expectations. Penny Hart,

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<v Speaker 1>has it exceeded our expectations and part of that is

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not sure our expectations were high enough going

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<v Speaker 1>in right. Um, he was a Richard junior who came

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<v Speaker 1>out late in the process. I saw some of him

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<v Speaker 1>before we came down here, but not enough to have

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<v Speaker 1>the full picture. But he's really opening eyes, the quickness,

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<v Speaker 1>the explosion. And it's not just he has that controlled

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<v Speaker 1>burst where he can shake defenders and coverage. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not only that, but he's crafty too, like he understands timing,

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<v Speaker 1>he understands uh, you know, the dance and how to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So really impress. If he went up against

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<v Speaker 1>the Sierra adderlie, who's the top safety here? Yeah, probably

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<v Speaker 1>he's the top defensive back here in my inion, and

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<v Speaker 1>he shook him in space. And I don't even consider

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<v Speaker 1>a negative rep for Ratteraly because Atterali had an interception yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he picked off Daniel Jones and posted some of

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<v Speaker 1>these videos on my Twitter time, Burl you can get that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not following Dane already, please jump on that

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<v Speaker 1>right now on Twitter. But yeah, Penny Hart, snap after snap,

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<v Speaker 1>no one could really cover him. And you know, five

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<v Speaker 1>eight one eighty, we're talking about a smaller framed guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's pretty natural with the ball away from his body,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's something that with Andy as Abella you worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>For my practice report, I did a little stock up,

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<v Speaker 1>stock down, and stalk down. I put Andy as Abella

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<v Speaker 1>because even though he is separating, he is having a

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<v Speaker 1>nice doing a nice art with his routes. Throws away

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<v Speaker 1>from his body he can struggle with because he has

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller hands, he doesn't have that huge catch radius.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a few drops yesterday on tape, so that

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<v Speaker 1>was something that stuck out well, Penny Hart, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a little more natural snaring away from his body, being

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with those throws. So, Penny Hard, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>day guy that stood out for me based on the tape,

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<v Speaker 1>based on yesterday, and then based on the last two days. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>to me that this is where you uh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where you look at things and you kind of figure out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's day there's a lot of these. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of these. You know. The big thing

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys has been Cole Beasley, all the Cole

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<v Speaker 1>Beasley talk that we've been hearing, but it seems like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with Dane and where we've talked about initially

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<v Speaker 1>in the drafting process. If you're a Cowboy fan, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to feel good that there's guys like Penny Hart,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Isabelle, Yeah, ro from Clemson. I mean, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just just that's just a small sample size of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are here. Yeah, that's you guys are here,

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<v Speaker 1>which and I mean, I think that's the crux of

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<v Speaker 1>the debate is I think people respect Cole Beasley's game,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is a position that you can find talent

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<v Speaker 1>that Cole Beasley was an undrafted free agent. We're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Andy Zabella as a second round pick, some

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<v Speaker 1>of these you know guys seeing early ish draft picks,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas you know, it's proven you don't have to draft

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<v Speaker 1>that high to find guys like that. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what makes the Cole Beasley topics so interesting. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, that's interesting to hear about Penny Hart

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<v Speaker 1>just which is funny because Andy Isabella is a U

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<v Speaker 1>mask guy. But so, I mean, you know, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a big school, but among draft nerds, he was like

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<v Speaker 1>the talked about guy coming into this, whereas, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't start hearing Penny Hart's name until maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>get here. Well, you change your impression up the first

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<v Speaker 1>guy again, the first guy you talk about guys, don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it, Yeah, don't do it. Yeah, we don't give him.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't give him the credit. No. Bobby Yeah, Bobby Belt Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>from the NFL network. You know he was he was Bobby.

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<v Speaker 1>He was beating me down about Penny Hart. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Bobby congratulations, will give you full credit for the part.

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<v Speaker 1>But some of the other guys you know that you've

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<v Speaker 1>you've kind of looked at. I mean, it's this these practices,

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<v Speaker 1>you could get a lot of the value. Keep talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this, the one on one stuff that you know

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<v Speaker 1>when they go to team who's battling? Who is there

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else? Though, the best one on one matchup that

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've seen here through two practices has been

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<v Speaker 1>Deebo Samuel South Carolina Wide receiver vers rock Ya Sin

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<v Speaker 1>the Temple corner. Okay, let me ask you though, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>with Samuel, where do you see him? Because again, during

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<v Speaker 1>the broadcast, if you're listening to Bill Polian and mcshaye,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys yesterday, they're trying to figure out where the

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina Wide receiver is going to play. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it yesterday in the show, you know, what's the role?

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<v Speaker 1>What's his fit? Because there are a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>that he does well. I thought yesterday during practice the

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<v Speaker 1>one on ones, he did a really nice job with

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<v Speaker 1>his releases off the line. I think he's really physical

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of routes then at the catch point.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, what is his exact fit in an NFL offense? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, is he best suited inside? Can he uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, can you play across the formation? What is

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<v Speaker 1>your picture of him when you, you know, insert him

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<v Speaker 1>into your offense? That that's the big question. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>having a really nice, nice week. But and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little give and take with rock Ya Sin.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you Sin gets him sometimes. That showed that film.

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<v Speaker 1>Both have several wins and they go up against each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a lot of fun to watch. And they

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<v Speaker 1>and they and they and when heat, when when Samuel

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<v Speaker 1>comes up, he comes up with him. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>they're not other trying to hide from each other. No, no, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they they both challenge each other and I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>both bringing in. That's what I like to see, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I like to see. You Sin whenever he went

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<v Speaker 1>up against Antony Johnson a few times. I had some

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<v Speaker 1>positive reps. So I think that Rocky has sent to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He came in as a top corner. Yeah, he's leaving

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<v Speaker 1>as a top corner. I don't think. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing has changed there is in the top corner in

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<v Speaker 1>this game. Okay, we're in the big picture. Does he

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<v Speaker 1>fit on people's draft boards? Where where would he be on?

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're gonna project him somewhere. I'm gonna watch

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<v Speaker 1>the player and project him. But where does he gonna

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<v Speaker 1>where is he going to fit on most people's draft boards?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the second round. Um. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think when we talked about the guys at the top,

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<v Speaker 1>Greedy Williams, Buyer Murphy and then DeAndre Baker is not

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<v Speaker 1>here at the Georgia corner. Um, And I think your

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<v Speaker 1>sin is right there in that mix where he's a

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<v Speaker 1>top forty guy who you know, some teams, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>the type of corner they're looking for, might have a

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<v Speaker 1>little higher, some man have a little lower. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think in the top forty top forty five range is

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<v Speaker 1>accurate for where's your what's your concerned of Greedy Williams?

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<v Speaker 1>I just think he's slight. He's he's small. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't mean the K and all that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, which you know, hey, Connor Williams right, like

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<v Speaker 1>you can, you can bulk up a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>he has a slight frame. He is not a physical yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which I will give him credit. I do think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a willing tackler. Yeah, I'm not talking about his mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just he is not a big guy at the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL level at least, I mean, does he not play

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<v Speaker 1>big to you? I think I think that remains to

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<v Speaker 1>be determined. And look, I know he was a lockdown

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<v Speaker 1>guy in college, but I don't don't know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going up against guys that are going to challenge you

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<v Speaker 1>game end game albums. You have the same concerns about

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<v Speaker 1>him of him as of maybe a mo clayboard. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought Moe was bigger. I I just thought Moe

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<v Speaker 1>was hidden by how good the rest of that secondary was.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest with you, and like that's and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you flip on the tape. We're talking like seven

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<v Speaker 1>years ago at this I'm just I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get an idea because the LSU corners. We tend to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, it's either Patrick Peterson or was

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<v Speaker 1>playing with literally like four guys who were still in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, Like he was across from Pat Pete for

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<v Speaker 1>a year. He had Tyer Matthew back there with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Reid was in that secondary. Uh So, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't trust that he had been through the fires.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that you would prefer to be a top

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<v Speaker 1>ten pick at the time. Yeah, And you know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I don't want to say like Greedy's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a good player, and then he's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>like he's gonna be a top fifteen pick. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to guess. But I do wonder about his frame. I

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<v Speaker 1>have mur I have Murphy of Washington. I think just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing enough Lsu games, I have a higher opinion this

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<v Speaker 1>This is anecdotal. This is purely anecdotal. I haven't watched,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have a higher or. I had a higher

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<v Speaker 1>opinion of Tradevious White coming out than I do of

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<v Speaker 1>Greedy Williams. So yeah, I think there's there's a lot

0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.040
<v Speaker 1>of mixed opinions on Greedy. Um something he might be

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<v Speaker 1>a late first rounder, something he's a top fifteen guy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see how he is people going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>him because of the length. Is that going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a length in the athleticism? Yeah, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>he has the play personality for the corner position. Um,

0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely has that, right, And so really just what we

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<v Speaker 1>don't love about him is he's not you know, super

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<v Speaker 1>twitchy where you know, it's just it's really fluid. See

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I see with the Murphy kid from Washington. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I see a little bit more of a

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<v Speaker 1>twitchy guy also, Yeah, smaller package. Yeah, so you know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of way and we'll see what the length is.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he twenty nine and a half or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll if it's that, then I'm going off the the

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<v Speaker 1>film shows me one thing, right, But I'm seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>competitive guy though. Yeah, and you know, I mean no

0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.480
<v Speaker 1>offense in the PAC twelve. But they just it wasn't

0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a good conference this year, and you know, compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC. So it's uh, it's you know, these are

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<v Speaker 1>all factors you have to weigh. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back to the yes, Sin, I think he's I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to I was trying to get an idea if like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about I'm talking about top corners. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>is sinking to put himself at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is the Temple Tape, the Senior Bowl and

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<v Speaker 1>combine could have put him in the mix with these

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<v Speaker 1>other corners. I guess that's what I'm trying to drive

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<v Speaker 1>at right now. I don't think so, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably gonna run a four or five two. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he has a great long speed, Okay.

0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a four four eight to four or

0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.400
<v Speaker 1>five two guy. Okay, And for a corner position, which

0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I stop watch position, right, that's some teams are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be turned off by that, you know, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of him being a top twenty guy, top up,

0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.760
<v Speaker 1>top thirty guy. Um, but a second round, yeah, get

0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:03.480
<v Speaker 1>him on my team. So I mean, that's just my

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<v Speaker 1>guest at this point. But we'll see how he does

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<v Speaker 1>it the combine. Maybe he'll surprise us, which that will

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<v Speaker 1>that's an all respect in the world of the Senior Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I love coming here, but that's something like I always

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<v Speaker 1>have to guard against when we come down here. Is well,

0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.280
<v Speaker 1>it's because these are competitions, well plus these are the

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<v Speaker 1>guys you're watching, right. You can only watch what's in

0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.360
<v Speaker 1>front of you. You know, we we we were in

0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.640
<v Speaker 1>love with Braxton Miller at the end of Senior Bowl

0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.760
<v Speaker 1>practices one year, and Quinton Rollins was another guy we

0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.200
<v Speaker 1>really liked after the Senior Bowl. And they're good players.

0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Quintin Rollins was drafted highly. But you know there are

0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.839
<v Speaker 1>other more talented players that are going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the mix when you get done with the Senior Bowl. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if we should fall in love with one of ability

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<v Speaker 1>to evaluate wh we fall in love with the Combine

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<v Speaker 1>or the Senior Bowl, you know, both other merits because

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at the Senior Bowl, it's the final

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<v Speaker 1>time we get to see these guys in past. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's the Senior Bowl. The Senior Bowl is the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>But the guy, not all of them, but a lot

0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:57.960
<v Speaker 1>of the guys playing here are just simply not as

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<v Speaker 1>good as the underclassmen, I mean, the top tier classmen,

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<v Speaker 1>right and that and on a lot of times I

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<v Speaker 1>learned more of the combine just because we have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to talk to them, you know, we get to

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<v Speaker 1>know them better. And then you know, just getting the

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<v Speaker 1>quantitative data to back up what you've watched the last

0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.880
<v Speaker 1>six to ten months is really beneficial because if something

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't match up, if you know, Rocky as Sin goes

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<v Speaker 1>out and run the four three eight, what well, what

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<v Speaker 1>did I miss? Hey? I need to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the tape and figure out. Okay, is he just you know,

0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.520
<v Speaker 1>stop watch fast and not Field fast? Or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I did give enough credit in terms of just

0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the long speed. So the combine they they both have

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<v Speaker 1>their merits. I don't I mean, I really don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how you would rank them, because I can make a

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<v Speaker 1>strong case for both. I don't want to put you

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<v Speaker 1>on the spot, Dane, but I see a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>house housekeeping tidbits coming across here. We got well, I

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.280
<v Speaker 1>hurt Donald, Donald Parham got hurt. Yes, he's being replaced

0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.000
<v Speaker 1>by UCLA like an ankle injury. If he's the tied

0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.960
<v Speaker 1>end from Stetson, he's being replaced by UCLA tight end

0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Caleb Wilson. And then this sucks. Y'all's guy Bruce Anderson,

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<v Speaker 1>as I guess out as well, who is that serious?

0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Poor poor Bruce? He uh, it was not a good

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<v Speaker 1>practice for him yesterday past protection he was see that's

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things we were worried about him a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Yeah, and you know, and I wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>my practure report how West Hills, the slippery rock running back,

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the winners yesterday because the one on

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<v Speaker 1>one stuff you saw, well, yeah, carrying the ball, catching

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and then blocking you looked pretty good. Right. Meanwhile,

0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Armstead from Temple Right couldn't catch the ball. It was bad. Right,

0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.160
<v Speaker 1>North Dakota State Bruce Anderson couldn't block a lick it

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<v Speaker 1>right bad. Okay, So it really like made West Hills

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<v Speaker 1>look a lot better playing or practicing next to those

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<v Speaker 1>two guys. Did something happened to Anderson? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see. Um that's pride, I would say feelings

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<v Speaker 1>were her. Yeah, it's possible. Well, I know about the

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<v Speaker 1>ankle with Darren Hall from pitt Is replacing Anderson. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds you you mentioned Dane some of that you on

0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.280
<v Speaker 1>your tweets, So you're kind of saying, keep an eye

0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:07.800
<v Speaker 1>on a usc offensive tackle. Yeah, Chuma Adoga. Who is

0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.400
<v Speaker 1>your team that needs to tackle? Yeah, you know, I

0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.480
<v Speaker 1>mean everybody needs to tackle, but this kid, he's showing

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<v Speaker 1>some really nice footwork. I've seen he flashed on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>and then Wednesday was more of the same. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's a little shorter than you want, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>got long arms. Uh Now, the placement of the punch

0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.240
<v Speaker 1>and you know when he extends that needs some work.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you focus on his lower body, his feet looked,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean really right, and it's natural, it's not forced.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he reaches the corner very well, can cut

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<v Speaker 1>off that speed, and I think he has some core

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<v Speaker 1>power to him where you know he don't see him

0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.320
<v Speaker 1>getting jostled at the contact point. You know, you see

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<v Speaker 1>him holding up well, using that length to his advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>He has some flexibility to him. So he's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of this week based on these two practices,

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<v Speaker 1>Penny Hart and this USC tackle two of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>winners clearly for me. Yeah, okay, a couple of guys

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I know we've got a game and a

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<v Speaker 1>practice left. Or is there anybody we could we could

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the quarterbacks because that hasn't been is it

0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:13.879
<v Speaker 1>probably hasn't been as good a group, But let's focus

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<v Speaker 1>on somebodys because we did quarterbacks yesterday. We kind of talked,

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<v Speaker 1>is there another group that you've kind of said, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>need to go back, or maybe I didn't feel as

0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.359
<v Speaker 1>good about these guys now as I did coming into

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<v Speaker 1>this practice. Who do I feel about? Who I feel

0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.760
<v Speaker 1>better about or worse about? Worse about of it? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anybody that it just really hasn't some of these corners? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I really like Isaiah Johnson, who we talked about, tall, long,

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<v Speaker 1>right right. You know, when he plays press and he

0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.080
<v Speaker 1>can turn and run, it looks pretty good because he's

0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.640
<v Speaker 1>such a a fast guy. But when he plays off coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad because his feet, his footwork, the technique, the

0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.120
<v Speaker 1>lower body technique, and this is a tall, long guy.

0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.840
<v Speaker 1>The teams are looking at right he's I mean, basically

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<v Speaker 1>what the tape is telling me is he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be playing press man coverage. You know, you can't trust

0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.280
<v Speaker 1>him and off he can't trust him in his own right.

0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.240
<v Speaker 1>You can't trust him to really be anywhere except nose

0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to nose with a wide receiver where he can get physical,

0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.480
<v Speaker 1>use that length and then use that speed to carry

0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.720
<v Speaker 1>receivers deep. So I thought he had up and down practice.

0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Chris Chris Boyd from Texas, same thing, where when he

0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.560
<v Speaker 1>presses he looks naturally, looks comfortable. He can use the

0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.199
<v Speaker 1>sideline to his advantage. But when you asked him to playoff,

0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Donald Parham got him really good. Yeah, on a just

0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.119
<v Speaker 1>as simple as a post route. Um, you know, he

0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.960
<v Speaker 1>showed a little patience at the top and uh, boyd

0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.520
<v Speaker 1>bid on it couldn't recover, so boyd, same kind of

0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.000
<v Speaker 1>similar deal. Press Man, Okay, does an okay job when

0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.920
<v Speaker 1>he plays off the line of scrimmage and he's forced

0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to kind of, you know, break down the receiver and

0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.320
<v Speaker 1>anticipate the route. That's where he really struggles. Yeah, these

0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.680
<v Speaker 1>these teams all looking for big, tall, long guys. Now, Yeah,

0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.240
<v Speaker 1>and but he's telling you all these guys do can play,

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<v Speaker 1>press man. Is that just a concern for you right now?

0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're a little bit more well rounded guys

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<v Speaker 1>play and you want to guy some guys who could

0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:03.560
<v Speaker 1>drive out off coverage and stuff like that. It's not

0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.639
<v Speaker 1>a it's not a concern, not a deal killer for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's it's January, So no, no, and I wouldn't

0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.440
<v Speaker 1>say I'm concerned. Um, but it is interesting, and that's

0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, you got to you gotta dive deeper into

0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:17.800
<v Speaker 1>those guys because I remember oh Man who was the

0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.440
<v Speaker 1>uh who was the kid at a Clemson a couple

0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:26.159
<v Speaker 1>of years ago. I think tankers tankers, Yes, it right.

0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.320
<v Speaker 1>We talked about him at played press man. That's all

0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he could do, That's all he could do, And the

0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys had no interest at the end of the day

0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's all that they felt he could do. So

0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean that is that is an element of this

0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.680
<v Speaker 1>where you got to dive into these guys strength and weaknesses.

0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Because he might fit the bill in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a corner, he'll he'll be available for you. But

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't fit what the Cowboys want him to do,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna They're not gonna be interested. Yeah, I

0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>think that's an important distinction. Before we hit the break though,

0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of a couple of people were asking about a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of the big the Big twelve, these defensive ends

0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Texas and TCU. It's having good days. Yesterday I thought L. J.

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Collier had a pretty good practice following up a good

0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 1>practice on Tuesday. Really like how he uses his length

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.720
<v Speaker 1>where he can both in the pass rush drills and

0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the run blocking drills. Uh. He did a really nice

0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:20.000
<v Speaker 1>job using that length, detaching from blocks and making a play. Yeah,

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought he you know, power, he saw some quickness

0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and bully mentality. So yeah, I think L. J. Collier

0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.720
<v Speaker 1>has definitely come here to Mobile and he's turned some heads. Yeah,

0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. They mean these people again once

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<v Speaker 1>again looking for those guys. Do you feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like though a really a guy that an

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<v Speaker 1>edge rusher, that that that can have success overall? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean does his tape show that? Yeah? I think so.

0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I think he's mean you're talking about him being able

0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.119
<v Speaker 1>to detach and things like that. That leads you to

0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.119
<v Speaker 1>believe that he could, that he could rush. But is

0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.480
<v Speaker 1>there is there something holding him back there? Well, he's

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 1>not a twitchy guy. He's not you know Ben bonegu

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.399
<v Speaker 1>the other TCU. Yeah, you know, he used more of

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that speed demon off the edge, where Collier is more

0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of the you know, doesn't have that type of juice.

0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:02.919
<v Speaker 1>But he's not a bad athlete by any means. Right,

0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, we gotta go to TC's pro day now,

0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what we gotta do. Might have to do that,

0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that's right, See how he does. Yeah, but he's a

0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>he's a good player and he's having a good week.

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Could be Charles A mena who from Texas men who Yeah,

0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:14.880
<v Speaker 1>who you were raving about the link to this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I think I've seen more questions and comments about

0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.919
<v Speaker 1>that dude than anybody, just from fans. When he's in

0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:24.720
<v Speaker 1>his car, he can change both mirrors, both view mirrors

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 1>with that length. Uh, he's just he's in the here

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.640
<v Speaker 1>during the like the one on ones, they've been lining

0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 1>him up basically the same way they did at Texas

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.639
<v Speaker 1>where he's over the guard okay, b gap Yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, playing an under tackle kind of like right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's been interesting and he's he's done a nice job.

0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:45.400
<v Speaker 1>He steamrolled Michael Dieter on Tuesday, and Dieter this basically

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<v Speaker 1>the second round, maybe the first maybe the best guard

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft. Senior senior senior guards conversation is going

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to change, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he's the best

0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>guard here and same thing. But he did the same

0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:01.240
<v Speaker 1>thing yesterday. He steamrolled Michael Dieter again. So to Michael

0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Dieter has some problems with power, I think it's more

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<v Speaker 1>just the length. Yeah, like you know, he's way he's

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 1>able to get on him right, knocked out. He needs

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to knock down the hands, you know, do a better

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.040
<v Speaker 1>job of fending off because you know with a mena

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.040
<v Speaker 1>who you know, he's gonna use that length because it's

0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it's such a weapon for him, and he just he

0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 1>did not make these proper adjustments based off of Tuesday's practice.

0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what he does on Thursday. One more question

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<v Speaker 1>before we get out of here, though, then the linebackers.

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Anybody's standing out for you on the linebacker side of things? Um?

0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Who did I like he was? Okay? I thought Tarrell

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Hanks has been the night, done a nice job New

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Mexico State. Um, Deshaun Davis from Auburn had a few

0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:42.720
<v Speaker 1>nice reps. He's the one that got Bruce Anderson in

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 1>those you know, the pass rush drils uh that Bruce

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:49.679
<v Speaker 1>Anderson couldn't stop him. So I thought he handled himself. Well, Um,

0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:55.359
<v Speaker 1>what are somebody's linebackers? Um, oh, Bobbiokareki. I thought he

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 1>did a nice job right using that length. Um David

0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Long from Westward, you have more of the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 1>my guy, my Long. He's not long enough exactly. That's

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.479
<v Speaker 1>the problem with him, right, that is the problem with him.

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a problem with him. But yoh, I thought he uh,

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 1>he did a nice job. It's just yeah, you worry

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>about the size, and it's something that will follow him

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.239
<v Speaker 1>throughout the process and really throughout his NFL career. All right,

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0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:20.479
<v Speaker 1>Dame Brugler, Kitt Garrison executive producing guys. When today is,

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a big day for me because I,

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<v Speaker 1>like Dane was talking about two days now a practice

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see. I want to see. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to see some football. Honestly, this has been a

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>weird Senior Bowls. I mean, you know, I mean, y'all

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>know the drill. When we get here. I'm on Jerry

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and Stephen Jones duty. The first day we're here, I

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<v Speaker 1>never get to watch practice on the first day, and

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>then the second day we didn't get to go. So like,

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I have not seen any rep of practice yet. I'm

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to today just so I can actually get

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 1>my bearings with these players. Yeah, you could sit down

0:26:56.520 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and really scout. I'll be full transparency, Like I know

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 1>next to nothing about the guys at this at the

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl this year, which upsets me. But what are

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? Well? Knowing next to nothing? Then we'll

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>get into some of these about these these questions that

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>we have here. I gotta, I gotta, which I hate

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>to give him credit, that Bobby Belt guy, and he's

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>he can be smart sometimes. Because this is something I've

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>been wondering about all week, and it's a good question

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 1>for you, Brian, which is when a team meets with

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>a player at the Senior Bowl, is that indicative of

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>interest or due diligence? And I'm just curious about this

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>and the role it plays in the process. You know,

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Bobby and I have a lot of conversations because there's

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>several players that he knows that the Cowboys are interested

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>in and he has contact with right and I think

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>anytime you meet with a player, it's and I hate

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>this because it's not I don't I don't want to

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>ride the fence, but it is about due diligence right now,

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>it is about due diligence, which and it don't ride

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the fence all you want, no, no, it is about

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>due diligence. But but there is some interest there. You're

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>not going to talk to somebody that you don't have

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>an interest in. But but but it's also your job

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>to where if something comes up, if something comes up

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>in a draft meeting, you want to be able to

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>tell Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones and Jason Garrett that, Hey,

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I talked to this kid and this is his background.

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Like when Dan gives you the background about your sin,

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>rock your sin, you know, a temple and tells you

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>all the places he'd been, that's a scout. Yeah, he's

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>scouting for you right there, because he's explaining to everybody

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>out there. But but the fact that he gets to

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>sit down and it visits with these guys helps him

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>with that part of the pot. You've been here on

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the personnel side, like, how does we know we know

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.479
<v Speaker 1>all the rules for the combine? You get x amount

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>of formal interviews? How does you spe a free for all?

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:49.239
<v Speaker 1>So and I missed those days in mobile you know

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you basically teams are allowed to talk to these guys

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>from like seven pm until ten. Yeah, you just kind

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>of grab the kids, go on the lobby there. You

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>set things up with him. Maybe on the after practice

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you go up and say, hey, listen, can we take

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it for ten minutes? And with you you're so you're

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>probably doing I don't know, fifteen a night trying nights

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the scouts all divide up, which I It's interesting to

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>me because you're right, you don't talk to a guy

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>without being interested, right, But at this point in the process,

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean a lot to me that the Cowboys

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys talk to X. Yeah, of course they did.

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Like they're here all weeks. That's that's what they're supposed

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to do. Like when we're talking about Okay, now, this

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>guy's got a formal interview at the Combine. Now, now

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Uler allowed sixty visits at the Combine had a three

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred and how many players twenty five? Three hundred and

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty six, okay, three thirty six. It's worth you if

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you limited to sixty. Yeah, now you're really You're really

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>they've they I can say, it's it's more about due

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>diligence at the All Star Games, US at the combo

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>if if the Cowboys are talking to somebody at the

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl, yeah, okay, I'm I'm I'm glad I heard that,

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>But like, I don't really care them. What do you

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>go to question? If you could ask a kid a

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>question in any setting, you know, I think it really

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>depends on the player because there's something, you know, like

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>each player there's probably something different that I want to know, like, um,

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>are you more about mental makeup or more about asking

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 1>him question? Maybe are you gonna ask him a question

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>about something you saw on tape, Like, hey, in that

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Nebraska game, right exactly bringing up what were you thinking

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>in that Nebraska game when you let that guy get

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>past you like that? Right? Because I think a few things.

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you get it, take your mental makeup. The

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>guy might be might be real honest to explain, right, Hey,

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>this is what I did. I made a mistake. Yeah

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I saw Yeah, I was in cover too, and I

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>thought that, you know. But it also it shows like,

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, did they actually remember it or are they

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, just kind of you know, just spit ball

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>in some generalities and they don't really remember what you're

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about. And how much do they care about, you know,

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>because if they were beat I want a guy that's

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>where it's sticking right here. Yeah, it still hurts him. Yeah,

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>so they're they're thinking about it. But yeah, and I'm

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of setting up players for the

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>future where I'm gonna ask him about a certain play

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>or I'm gonna ask him to hey go back and um,

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, watch that Temple tape and he did this

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>as and this, and then when I talked about the

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>combine or I talked to him about a pro day

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>bringing that up again and kind of you know, just

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>testing okay, did you go back and look at that

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>or you know, testing them that way, you know, like

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>a long term type of thing. There's so many things

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>that you can do in terms of the psychology of

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it um and it's it's it's just it's that's why

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Scouts have to be investigators, psychologists. I mean, there's so

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>many different steps to being a Scout that can be important.

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Family questions, off limits what we've seen this in the past.

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.959
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing off limits, but okay, but there's been some

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>questions trying to be trying to be respectful like that.

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we have to be respectful to a point. Um.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>You know. I think that there's been some guys who

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>have asked some pretty oh yeah, guys like pretty Jeff

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Ireland every yeah, Jeff Ireland springs immediately to mind that Bryant, Yeah,

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, that's yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah,

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>there was the whole controversy with Darious. Guys. I still

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't did we have get to the bottom

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of whether that question actually got asked, I don't know,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>probably did go out. Probably it probably did. And that's yeah,

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean clearly nothing is off limits. Yeah, I don't

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>think all of it is important, but teams are going

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to do what they want to do. Look for a

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>kid's reaction those kind of questions, yes and no. I

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>mean part of it is, you know, I want to know, Okay,

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, was your dad in your life? Was you

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>know who who raised you? You know who's uh, you know.

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>One one big thing that I want to know with

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>players is their mental toughness. And so I want to know, Okay,

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>what have you had to gone go through in your life? Absolutely?

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, have you been handed everything or you know,

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>have you had to face adversity? If so, what's the

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>biggest adversity you've had to face in your life? And

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, for some guys, there's some heavy stuff. There's

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of heavy stuff. So there's a lot, yeah,

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot more than me, you know, and that that

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>helps shape who they are now and who they're going

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, five years from now, and you

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>know every everything in between. So yeah, that's something you're investing.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I know it seems very insensitive sometimes, but as a

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>general manager, you have to treat these these players as

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>as assets as you know, basically a stock that you're

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>buying and selling. And you know, I know that's incentisive.

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>These are people and all that, but that's just that's

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that's how you have to treat it. Scouts are very

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>compassionate generally, if you don't lie to him, you tell

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>him the truth and be upfront, and you don't and

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>they and don't make them have to go dig up

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff on you. But if you're very upfront with the players.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember a kid, Mac from a Miami was a safety.

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>He told me he had an alcohol problem. Kid told me,

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean twelve thirty at night at the combine. He

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>actually says, hey, I have an alcohol problem, you know,

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's sure enough he did. You know, he was

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>in the league for two three years, but he had

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>an alcohol problem. And you know, when I went back

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>with my guys that the packers said, this kid told

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 1>me he's got an issue. Guys, we need to look

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>at this if we're interested in this guy. But you

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, I appreciate and I think I

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>have more compassion to the player that tells me the truth,

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and does that made me have to come back another

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>time in a pro day or a visit and say, hey,

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you lie to me man. Well, yeah, a lot of

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>times it'll be switched where you go digging first and

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you find something right, and then when you kind of

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>hint at it to the player, see what he says,

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and then he like, you know, lies about it or

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't bring you know, and yeah, you know, any problems

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.879
<v Speaker 1>in high school, you know, any arrests or anything like that. No, no,

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I was good. But you've talked to his high school

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>coach and you found out, you know, he got trouble,

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 1>busted for under age or And it's not so much

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>what he did, you know, because I don't really don't care.

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, we won't made mistakes at seventeen. It's more

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that now, as a twenty two year old,

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>he's lying about it. Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, get to those questions.

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>So good, good conversation. That was good. Yeah, good conversation

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>about that. What you got on the question side of

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a thing? This is this is interesting to me because

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 1>so Trey's got a question probably like in terms of

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 1>his college career, probably like the most famous guy here

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>and we haven't talked about him one time. Trace McSorley,

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.240
<v Speaker 1>What's I mean, what's the story? Like, got out to

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>do Burns Penn State? Is he draftable? Like? I mean,

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>like I've leaned toward no, because we haven't said his

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>name once in three shows. Where do you see mc Sorry,

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll tell you what I see of the kid.

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Every time I've ever watched Penn State play, I kind

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>of felt like they were in the game because of him. Yeah, No,

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>like he I mean, if you want to talk about

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 1>if you want to talk about traits of a guy

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that's a winner, he's got winning traits. He and in

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>a terrible situation. He clearly has Bill O'Brien and them

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 1>turned around. Just from watching him play college football, he

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>appears to have it. But again that goes back to

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>my point, we are not talking about him so that

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 1>he must have some serious flaws as a quarterback. Well

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>it's very cliche, but he's a gamer, you know, like

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>this is what he is. He's shout out Dak Prescott.

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. But mcsorley's you know, he's six foot even,

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and two pounds. He has a okay arm.

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Not a good, not even above average arm. He's got

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 1>an okay arm, and a lot of what he did

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>at Penn State was because of using his legs. Yeah,

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>that toughness that he showed in resiliency. I just don't

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>know how that's going to translate. I don't know. To me,

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 1>there were better quarterbacks um than him to invite here

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.919
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think mcsorley's getting drafted. Maybe a coach

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 1>falls in love with the moxie and either the way

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>he handles himself. But of all those guys last year,

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you know those guys that they were talking about in

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the sixth, seventh round Toledo, you know Mike White and

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 1>Mike White. I mean I would I was not talking

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I talk about Mike White. You would have drafted Mike

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>White and No, but those guys that were those guys

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that we were kind of banging around at the end

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of the draft. This guy not as good as those

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>guys that I don't think, so I don't I don't

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>see it as a passer, not enough to at least

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>not enough that's gonna give me optimism. I don't know

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 1>he's he's an undraft or a priority free agent, a

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>good player who's gonna get a chance. But you know,

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're a white side guys like that last year, Yeah,

0:36:57.840 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>those guys, we were all talking and you told me

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>that he's gonna be make the final cuts next year

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>at a training camp. Totally suprised. I'd be more surprised

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>if you got drafted than if he actually made the

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>final cut as a second or third receiver, just because

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:10.800
<v Speaker 1>once he gets a training camp and then the coaches

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>have a chance to second or third receiver or quarterback quarterbacks,

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, WHOA, we're talking position change. Uh. Once coaches

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>have a chance to, you know, spend a couple of

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>days with him, and you know, or a couple of

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>weeks with him, it's gonna be hard for them to

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>cut a guy like San Francisco. Oh your boys. Yeah,

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm broadcasting the game and Nick Mullins is driving it

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>down the field and go to go ahead, And he

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>did it in the regular scene exactly exactly all right,

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:39.479
<v Speaker 1>But the guys would end up I think the one

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>trait did again, this is not studying him on film,

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>but just TV scouting. He had them in. He has it,

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>that's all I know. That's all I know, and you

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 1>might be absolutely right about the you. You gotta have both,

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta be a highly picked player. Yeah, all right, mister

0:37:55.840 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Ohio Joseph has a question, Ohio Joseph. H he wants

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to exactly. He wants to, how do you finishing? Sorry,

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Joseph wants to know about Terry McLaurin, who I've heard

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been seeing his name crop up a lot in

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of days. He was another one of

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>my quote unquote risers based on what he's done at practice.

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State receiver for anybody, Yeah, yeah, he's a vertical receiver,

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>has speeding get deep, um, you know, stack the corner

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>when deep. What I'm really impressed with is not that

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a niche look aceleration, but the secondary burst that he shows.

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.439
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like, you know, he lulls corners to sleep

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit because he's i mean, he's good speed,

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 1>but then he has an extra gear downfield where he

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 1>hits it and he just he has a little bit

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>left in the tank and he can get you over

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 1>the top. So that factored in with he's a big

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>time special teams player that you talked to Urban Meyer

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>about him, he'll what he does on special teams is

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>big and so you know as a gunner on different coverages,

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 1>he that's where he's really gonna be able to impress teams.

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Um So, like Terry McLaurin mid round pick, he's gonna

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 1>be in this league for a long time because what

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 1>he can do on special teams and you know, a

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 1>pretty good fourth receiver who will battle to be more

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>than that better. Noah Brown different, but his build is

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 1>not the same as Noah's right, right, A special teams guy,

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>tough guy maybe you know. Yeah, he's definitely a tough guy.

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>But I think his speed is what really separates him. Okay,

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll see what he runs all thing. He's big enough

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>than anybody's gonna ask him to set the edge. But

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying Ohio State. I know Ohio State receive

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Noah Brown is six two to twenty. That's all like,

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>he's pretty gigantic Hio State receiver. Yeah, special teams guy. Okay,

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 1>we got time for anymore? Absolutely, go ahead. I'm gonna

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>ask this just for the for the comment or the

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:56.320
<v Speaker 1>name which is combat wombat. Cool? Uh we tombat Wombat.

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about we've talked about Adderly, what about the

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>other safeties that are here anybody. Another one of the

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>risers based off the tape from Wednesday's practice was Darnell

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Savage from Maryland, who I'm a big fan of his.

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I think he's really underrated because he's he's smaller, smaller safety.

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>But he was one of the few guys that did

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 1>a nice job against Penny Hart. Uh did not get

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 1>you know one. Yeah, he did a nice job. He

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>has that reactive quickness where he can close and uh

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>make a play. So Darnel Savage in I think he's

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>the ideal nickel. Maybe not ideal because he doesn't have

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>ideal height or length, but in terms of his athleticism,

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>he has ideal athleticism for the nickel. Plus, I think

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>he's the mindset because he'll come up in hitcha. He

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>can you know, he's used to playing in space. So

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Darnell Savage to me, he's a Day two prospect um.

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>He has a chance to be one of the top

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>five safeties drafted this year. Is he the same height

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and way this Addlie Adderley's five eleven almost six foot

0:40:56.320 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>year Savages eleven even I think five eleven even one

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 1>nine nine. Yeah, so he's he's been an inch smaller. Yeah,

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the length is not as he doesn't have his long arms.

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.399
<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, so it's not. We're not talking about

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 1>a huge difference here. Yeah, okay, good to know. Um,

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Matt oh, I like this question from a Matt simple one.

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Fullbacks here or in the draft, we're just we're just

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are a team without a fullback and they

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a lot of production from it. Anyway. Yeah,

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>we had dinner with the Raider guys last night. We

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>were we were having we were having fullback story. We

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>were swapping full We were like, oh wait a minute,

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>our guy like they want their guy back and they

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 1>want our guy back. Yeah, exactly, okay, exactly. Uh. You know,

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 1>the fullbacks here haven't done much. But Travan Westco from

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia, who is basically a tight end, but he's

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 1>they're they're using the mass seventy seven pounds. I saw.

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>He's a big boy. They're using him as more of

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>a fullback here and he's seventy thank you too. Seven.

0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have a huge catch radius, but he's he battles,

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, he at the top of Rountes

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>and he's trying to gain separation. And there's something too.

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Trevon Westco, I don't know. I don't know that he's

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a high draft pick at all. Like top,

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know he's gonna go top five rounds. But

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>once you get in the later rounds, Travon Westco is interesting.

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Is he like? Is he what you like drapped in

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>a long snapper? You know what I'm saying when you

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>always dropped that long snapper in the six or seventh round, right,

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 1>But I mean with with Westco because he was a

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 1>tight end of West Virginia playing fullback here, I think

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, he gives a little bit of versatility where

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 1>he can do maybe a little both be that ah back.

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be specialized because so the offensive view to

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>fullback position so differently around the league. You're not kidding,

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you know it's gonna be. He's not gonna be for everybody.

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, there might only be four teams that like him.

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>So it's just a matter of one of those four

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>teams have a draft pick in the six or seventh

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>round that they're willing to use on a player if

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you'd rather spend a draft pick on a really really

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>good fullback or a really really good kicker, And I'm like, like,

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm a kicker. I think you're right. Which I was

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, like, let's leave like Dixon out of it,

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 1>like he's a special case. Clearly, Like youbody, think about

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the the think about the kid that the Vikings took

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.399
<v Speaker 1>in the third round, Carlson, yep, I mean they got

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.319
<v Speaker 1>rid of him, They dumped a third got Dan Bailey. Well,

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:20.879
<v Speaker 1>how about the um I mean they about the Yeah,

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Bucks traded up. That's which that too. That scares the

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>It scares the hell automated draft. I would be totally

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.720
<v Speaker 1>fine drafting a kicker, but not until like the sixth

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 1>round because then, like there's no pressure on a sixth round,

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>or there should Carlson, guy, I mean he made everything

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>at Auburn. Yeah, he got to Minnesota. I mean they're

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>losing games that kids of him head games. Man, he's

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a mental position. I guess, uh got one more I

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>had to have exactly one one more thing. We gotta

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>take a break to We'll come back finish this thing up. Dan,

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you you gotta do this for us. But Junior wants

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to know, like what position group. Junior wants to know

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>has disappointed you the most this week. He's gonna tell

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you a quarterback. Yeah, I think it has been the quarterbacks.

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>And we talked about it yesterday, and you know, watching

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the tape m of Wednesday's practice, because that's what you know. Tuesday,

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you let them get acclimated to the situation. Then Wednesday, okay,

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:12.280
<v Speaker 1>let's see you ramp it up. It wasn't games, not really,

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't like just completely terrible, right, but none

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 1>of them impressed. Daniel Jones threw two interceptions. One was

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>just a bad decision that he forced this year. Adderle

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 1>got him U. The other one is receiver fell down

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 1>and so Penn State corner got him um. But you know,

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the seven on seven drills and the

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>team drills a checkdowns a lot, and sometimes that's the

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>best decision, but you don't get anything out of that.

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Guys are getting scared a little bit. Is the nerves

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.879
<v Speaker 1>starting to get to some of these guys. I mean,

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking your question, it's hard to answer watching the tape,

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of these guys are covered so like

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not all the time. Some of the times

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and so they don't have the opportunity. I mean, they

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>can't create a window that's not there. Um, So I

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's so much that they're getting a

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>little skittish, but um, honestly, Jared Stidham made the best

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>throw of your story's practice. It was it was a

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>simple ten yard out route to Anthony Johnson, right, but

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.839
<v Speaker 1>it was the opposite hash and he had to put

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>perfect placement in timing on it so Anthony Johnson could

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:16.919
<v Speaker 1>make the throw along the sideline without the defender undercutting it. So, uh,

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Stidham had the best throw. Gare. I think Minshew had

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 1>a couple of nice throws, but for the most part,

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:25.720
<v Speaker 1>it was a pretty blaw practice. So Thursday, all right, quarterbacks,

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:27.759
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0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.160
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0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:33.080
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<v Speaker 1>you guys as well. Okay, I want to get into David.

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>You said you wanted you had something you wanted. Yeah,

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 1>I thought of this. I think of this every year,

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I get it. The Senior Bowl. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to promote yourself. You gotta remind people why

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:13.959
<v Speaker 1>this is important, and YadA YadA. So every year, they've

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>got promotional material everywhere. I mean, Baker Mayfield is everywhere

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>this week, as he should be a couple of years.

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:23.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Dak and Wentz. I remember Ziggyanza was all

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>over the promotional material after he blew up. So I

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:31.879
<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask y'all if you had to guess when

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>we come back here a year from now, whose face

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 1>are we going to see all over the posters, you know,

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and promotional material for the Senior Bowl. That's a good question.

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Sweat Okay, that's that is the one that jumps to

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 1>my mind right away. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, absolutely,

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, this is where you know you

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:52.919
<v Speaker 1>talk about Montest Sweat, the defensive end from Mississippi State.

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 1>He's the one guy I'm I'm gonna be fascinated to

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:58.880
<v Speaker 1>see it when it's all said and done, when we

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>get to these rushers and where they stack, you know,

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 1>post Combine getting into the draft, what people really really

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 1>feel about him? That guy, to me at six six

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:13.279
<v Speaker 1>two fifty two has got a ton of ability to

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 1>rush the past, and I think he's gonna be the guy.

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he had Dak you said, Missisipipi state guy quarterbacks quarterback. Yeah,

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 1>but it's all about the length with the sweat. Yeah,

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 1>when he used that length that he can be deadly.

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I I'd probably go Daniel Jones. Um, you know, I

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 1>think it depends on where he goes. Daniel Jones goes to,

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Giants quarterback from If he goes to

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the Giants at six and Eli Manning plays most of

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the year or then obviously it's not gonna work. But

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:43.280
<v Speaker 1>if Daniel Jones goes to Miami and they give Tannehill

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the boot or something like that, and you know, uh,

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones is up having a decent rookie year, then

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you know, we could talk about

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 1>him as being a poster boy down here in Mobile.

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Where where Daniel Jones rank as far as those quarterbacks

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and last year's draft of the top guys, you love

0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>doing that, I do. I just want to see a

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a comparison. If I could four after

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>for me the guys of the Allens, so after after Darnold,

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Rosen and Baker. Yeah right, I would go Jones because

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.399
<v Speaker 1>for me, I had three quarterbacks in top ten last

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 1>year right right as Baker and Rosen. All three were

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 1>in that I considered top ten picks. And then there's

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a huge gap. And then I think I had Allen

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:27.240
<v Speaker 1>at like thirty overall, and then Lamar Jackson thirty two overall.

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I think Haskins and Daniel Jones would be somewhere in

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the middle. Um, I think the top three quarterbacks last

0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 1>year would be my top three quarterbacks this year. Well,

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I think they would be the top three quarterbacks in

0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 1>most draft classes. I mean maybe, I mean, I don't know.

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean Rosen, he has his up and downs. What

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Rosen does with this new coach, it's hard not to

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:51.400
<v Speaker 1>have hindsight with big. Of course, I have someone comparison.

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>And again, if you have believed my quarterback evaluations, you're

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:56.720
<v Speaker 1>probably going down the wrong road. It's true, you suck

0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>at it. I do, I suck a Jody Harrington. No,

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:03.760
<v Speaker 1>but I've got I got Mahomes right, I'll give you Mahomes.

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I fought I got that one right. But but yeah, overall,

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 1>I thought that Josh Rosen, I thought he was Matt Ryan.

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean I seriously thought. I mean I watching him

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>play still could be Yeah. Absolutely, That's why I want

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>to see him play with this guy. Yeah, I think it.

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I think where this quarterback goes from Duke. I did not,

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:23.759
<v Speaker 1>which you know, we're just getting into the process, like

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I know the name, but I did not realize that

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>he is that highly thought of that you would take

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:32.719
<v Speaker 1>him right after those top three Jones I'm talking about, Okay, Yeah,

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think he's he's just got a lot

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:37.359
<v Speaker 1>of what you want. I take him ahead of Josh Allen,

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I take Hi ahead of Lamar Jackson, and I feel

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>better about long term. So depending depending on the situation,

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you think there's a good chance he's starting a healthy

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:48.919
<v Speaker 1>amount of games next year, depending on the situation. Yeah,

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:51.920
<v Speaker 1>in my last mock draft and him going seven of

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 1>the Jags, so you know it. Who knows where they're

0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:57.840
<v Speaker 1>going to sign a Foals or a Flacco or you know,

0:52:57.920 --> 0:52:59.839
<v Speaker 1>something like, we'll see what the Jags do. But they're

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be in the quarterback market, so that's a

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:04.640
<v Speaker 1>potential landing spot. The Redskins is Alex Smith coming back.

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, just see his cast the other day, Like

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it looks like a submarine, there's so much metal on

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>its leg. I feel bad for the guy. The wild

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:14.279
<v Speaker 1>card in all this, of course, we go back to

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray. That's who's gonna fall in love with him?

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna take We planned that out with the Raider

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:22.320
<v Speaker 1>guys last night. He's Oakland Pick twenty seven, the Cowboys

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 1>pick yeah, pick twenty seven, Kyler Murray. I'll make him

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:27.080
<v Speaker 1>calling my shot here. I just don't think he's gonna

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 1>last that long. But see, all it takes with him

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 1>is one one team to follow takes four that I said,

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this last night. That would be kind

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of hard. Knock me. It would shock me, and I

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:39.919
<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm sure I would be shocked. Five nine

0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:42.239
<v Speaker 1>quarterback on the top. I'll put it this way. Do

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:45.759
<v Speaker 1>not be surprised where if he goes one or if

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 1>he goes thirty, do not be surprised. It or anywhere,

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 1>but just saying that's gonna be the fun first night

0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 1>for us in the draft. Do you not be surprised

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 1>if he at this point last year we would have

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:57.800
<v Speaker 1>said it would be crazy for a six foot quarterback

0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 1>to get the number one overall. You're right, he did,

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you right now. But if he's surprised at anything,

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 1>most of us, most of us will pretty convinced Baker

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:07.919
<v Speaker 1>Mayfield was gonna be a top ten pick at least

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>where no but like nobody can agree on Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, some people are saying top five and

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.359
<v Speaker 1>some people are saying not in the first round. That's

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 1>it's he's the ultimate wild card. Yeah, the the I

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.800
<v Speaker 1>was just looking down at periscope and one of the

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:26.839
<v Speaker 1>questions they wanted to know, Dane, if you could tell

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:29.879
<v Speaker 1>who the top safeties in this year's draft. He talked

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:32.319
<v Speaker 1>about as the top safety and I saw that just

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>caught my eye. Just wanted from Alabama. Alabama, Um, you know,

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. He has such a good start to the year,

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 1>then he kind of tailed off a little bit. I

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 1>think his eye discipline needs work. Um, and he's not

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 1>as I's He's got good height and length, but he's

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>a little lean, right, he's about six two nine pounds,

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. We'll see how we can he

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 1>hold up because I think he has a physical mentality,

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:56.919
<v Speaker 1>but can he actually hold up and run support, That'll

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.719
<v Speaker 1>be a big question. Um after him, Taylor raf from

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:03.399
<v Speaker 1>washing Tonight like a lot a guy who is here,

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:04.919
<v Speaker 1>but we haven't had a chance to see him. Jonathan

0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Abram from Misissippi State Right, like him a lot. He's

0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 1>just flying missile all over the place. I really like

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:14.400
<v Speaker 1>his play personality and what he brings not only the field,

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 1>but also, uh just my locker room. And I think

0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:21.719
<v Speaker 1>he's a good influence there. He's he's married, he's kind

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of advanced in his life, so I think you're getting

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:28.360
<v Speaker 1>him ature player. Uh One Thornhill after that, Chauncey Gardner

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Johnson from Florida. So I think it's a it's not

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 1>a bad safety group, but it's um, it's not great either,

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:35.359
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's a decent group where you can find

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:40.239
<v Speaker 1>starters four or five guys, right, yeah, top seventy five picks, right,

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you can be able to find a guy that's gonna

0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>be a nice contributor for you and probably hopefully a starter.

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.000
<v Speaker 1>What are you expecting today from practice? Like I said,

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I just want to see some guys. I'm gonna have

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 1>my focus. You're gonna have on somebody today. We'll focus

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 1>on a position. Off the top of my head, I

0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>want to watch and that's why I kept asking about it.

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to watch some of these offensive lineman Um Dillard,

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the kid from Washington, Washington State. I'm intrigued by that.

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I Like I said, I'm I'm intrigued by tackle being

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:11.879
<v Speaker 1>a need for this team, for the Cowboys. I mean,

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:15.080
<v Speaker 1>some of these pass rushers. Um, I don't want to

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:17.360
<v Speaker 1>watch sweat because I don't want to be reminded that

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:20.919
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have no shot at drafting him. Right, Hey,

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:24.879
<v Speaker 1>character stuff you never know all the way to fifty eight?

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and literally but monthest what might not go as

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:32.959
<v Speaker 1>early as some people think because of the background stuff,

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 1>which okay, you know it's people in Missisipi State will

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:38.839
<v Speaker 1>tell you he was great. But you yeah, oh god,

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do that again. Yeah. Um, maybe maybe some corners.

0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know the kid from Texas. How do I

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 1>say his name? Dane Charles A Mena. Who, Yeah, I

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:50.839
<v Speaker 1>got to see this reach. I'm gonna try to look

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:54.359
<v Speaker 1>at everything because I've seen so little this year that

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna try to watch as much as possible today. Yeah,

0:56:57.320 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and as I look down again on the periscope, you

0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>see Kke Garrison producing on the fly the Andre Dillard

0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and where he's gonna go. You're right, I think the

0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys do need an offensive tackle, especially with what going

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.279
<v Speaker 1>on with Cam Fleming. You may bean Cam Fleming is

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a free agent, Tyron Smith wear and tear Lyle Collins

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 1>is heading into a contract here. Absolutely absolutely. And Andre

0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Dillard it's been I don't think he's been great, but

0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been terrible. It's been a little up and

0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:25.600
<v Speaker 1>down for him. So if he caps off the week

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:28.120
<v Speaker 1>with a good practice today, they'll be big for him because,

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 1>again one of the storylines coming into the week, he's

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a potential first round pick Canny get in that first round.

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 1>He needed a big week this week. I don't think

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that we've necessarily seen that yet. I think he's a

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:41.480
<v Speaker 1>really good player. He's an NFL starter, But a strong

0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:43.600
<v Speaker 1>practice today would go a long way to kind of

0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>boost in his profile. What are you looking at there,

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Scott Man. Well, unfortunately I won't be able to watch

0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the practice, his love, but I'll watch the tape tonight.

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 1>So eager to see these quarterbacks showing me something. You know.

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 1>He finished strong and specifically Drew Lock and Daniel Jones.

0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Want to see them do well. Ye can see more

0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:04.480
<v Speaker 1>of the Deebo Samuel Rocius in battle. That's been a

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>common theme this week, and just more in the trenches.

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.120
<v Speaker 1>The d lines really had their way with the offensive lineman.

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:14.360
<v Speaker 1>It's so far through two practices. Can the offensive lineman

0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:17.280
<v Speaker 1>flip the script play a little better? So that's a

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 1>few things I'll be looking at. I'm gonna focus on

0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 1>that one on one, the pass rush drill and try

0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and do my best to focus. It's split. We have

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>to focus on pass rush drill and then you have

0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to focus on one on one with the receivers and

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:29.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I want to see some of the

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman come off the ball and block somebody today. Yeah, yeah,

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to see some guys climb some guys. I'm

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a full pad, you be able to do that. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all the time we have for today. Thanks to

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:41.160
<v Speaker 1>everybody that was a part of this This morning again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if it's a good morning to you or

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:45.760
<v Speaker 1>good afternoon wherever you are in the world. We appreciate

0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys for my Scotty Buddy's, David Hellman for Dame Brewer,

0:58:49.960 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 1>for Kik Garrison executive producer, and Brian Brouss. We will

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<v Speaker 1>see you Thursday. Next Thursday, draft show we back in.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going once a week and so that will be

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the the things that we work on. We're gonna get

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:04.240
<v Speaker 1>you ready to study some more players, break this film down,

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:07.480
<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity to get back to Dallas to excuse

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 1>me to Frisco and break down this film a little

0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>more and then talk about it on Thursday. So the

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 1>next things we'll do is that and then we'll focus

0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 1>in on the combine coming up in the future. So

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, take care and thanksg for Joyce. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you next time.