WEBVTT - Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 126 | Young Talent We Need to See in Final 3 Weeks

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into jag Zam. It's week sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ka Nannie Stevens, and Brian and John are with

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<v Speaker 2>me here today as well. We're going to talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about this game in Las Vegas that's coming

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<v Speaker 2>up as the Jaguars get ready for their final three

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<v Speaker 2>games of the season. So let's start out with big

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<v Speaker 2>thing number one, which is time.

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<v Speaker 1>There are three.

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<v Speaker 2>Remaining games in this regular season, and because there's no

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<v Speaker 2>playoff contention for this team, it is time to focus

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<v Speaker 2>on the younger players.

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<v Speaker 3>From a coaching perspective, gives you an idea of the

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<v Speaker 3>type of player that you drafted and you brought on

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<v Speaker 3>your team. And then for the player, it gives him

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<v Speaker 3>confidence going into you know.

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<v Speaker 4>The offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>I look back to what Buster did his rookie year

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<v Speaker 3>and then the chances he got to play early on

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<v Speaker 3>how that catapulted him into this season, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And and and so that's a that's a great.

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<v Speaker 3>Example, right and and then even looking ahead, like the

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<v Speaker 3>confidence that you see in Tank and the confidence you

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<v Speaker 3>see in Brenton. And you know, Anton's been a day

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<v Speaker 3>one starter, but the young players that have played Antonio

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson's playing more this year and the more or the better.

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<v Speaker 3>I should say that they play in these last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of games will give them the confidence I think moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Frian, we've been talking a lot about this. Now we're

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<v Speaker 2>actually seeing it come to fruition.

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<v Speaker 1>And any of those names stick out to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of them do.

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<v Speaker 5>The one though, that he mentioned later in the interview

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<v Speaker 5>was Trey Prince. And and here's why that's important. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>Prince came in as a guy from Old miss He's

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<v Speaker 5>got all the trades. He's he's got height, he's got length,

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<v Speaker 5>he's got speed, he's got an attitude too. He's still

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<v Speaker 5>pissed off that he was drafted in the fifth round.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's a guy that's got the traits that can

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<v Speaker 5>be a player for you. You want to find out what

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<v Speaker 5>he's got because when you go into the the draft

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<v Speaker 5>process now next year, do you know if he is

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<v Speaker 5>a guy that you can count on? Do you think

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<v Speaker 5>he's a guy you can count on or do you

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<v Speaker 5>not know anything about it? Well, you'd like to have

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<v Speaker 5>some idea because at the top of the draft next year,

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<v Speaker 5>or a couple of cornerbacks that you might be interested in.

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<v Speaker 5>So knowing exactly what you've got is critically important at

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<v Speaker 5>this time of year.

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<v Speaker 4>So listen.

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<v Speaker 5>Ronald Darby, ten year veteran, helps you win games, not

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<v Speaker 5>important right now. I got to see Trey Prince. I've

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<v Speaker 5>got to know if he's a guy can go forward.

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of know what monterk Brown is. Christian Braswell's

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<v Speaker 5>another guy. I'm just using the cornerback position because I

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<v Speaker 5>know it's one that people are focused on as an area.

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<v Speaker 4>The Jaguars got to get better.

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<v Speaker 1>John.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you'd like to see a little bit of Jefferson

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<v Speaker 6>and Prince.

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<v Speaker 7>Javon Foster is tempting, but it's awfully hard just to

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<v Speaker 7>throw offensive linemen in there if they're not ready. It's

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<v Speaker 7>so much cohesion and you don't want to have the

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<v Speaker 7>offense not be functional because of one guy. Look, there's

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<v Speaker 7>all the draft position versus winning and what matters and

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<v Speaker 7>all that, but to me, in the last three games,

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<v Speaker 7>really take it for the last five. If they win

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<v Speaker 7>a few and they screw up their draft position, forget

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<v Speaker 7>the draft position for a second. If they win a

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<v Speaker 7>few and you'll love what Prince did, or you'll love

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<v Speaker 7>what Mason Smith did, and those guys feel like they're

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<v Speaker 7>standing in the locker room and saying I mattered in

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<v Speaker 7>this one.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm part of this. I feel confident going forward.

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<v Speaker 7>If you have nine or ten young guys who get

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<v Speaker 7>that feeling of we lifted it, then I think the

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<v Speaker 7>draft position losing it is okay. Frank, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 7>pick on Ronald Darby, but if Ronald Darby's staying in

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<v Speaker 7>the azine with a pick six and they won the

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<v Speaker 7>game because of that and he's not here next year,

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<v Speaker 7>then you sort of wonder was it worth it?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, let's go to our second big thing, which is spark.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked a lot about Mac Jones and the energy

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<v Speaker 2>he brings to the field, but he also hopes that

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<v Speaker 2>it's spreading to his teammates as well.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think we've had some good results here in

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<v Speaker 8>terms of like moving the ball and and like you said,

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<v Speaker 8>having fun guys making plays and really not letting one

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<v Speaker 8>play turn into like a snowball effect. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 8>So just kind of just playing each play one play

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<v Speaker 8>at a time and keeping it loose. Whether we did

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<v Speaker 8>something good on the first series or something bad. So

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<v Speaker 8>you gotta play each play, like I say, always, and

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<v Speaker 8>I think it definitely carries over to them. I think

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<v Speaker 8>that fits the personalities in the room, myself included, and

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<v Speaker 8>the coaches, and it's not been the best season so far,

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<v Speaker 8>but we're also still striving for perfection and keeping it

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<v Speaker 8>fun and loose and trying to win.

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<v Speaker 1>John, we talk a lot about the mac Jones experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Some mistakes will be made, but the energy's always there

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<v Speaker 2>and it's always entertaining.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, after the game the other day, I've watched the Jets,

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<v Speaker 7>I walked into the house and my wife would watched

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<v Speaker 7>the game and she said, you know that mac Jones

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<v Speaker 7>is cocky. There we go, and she said, but I

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<v Speaker 7>kind of wanted him to win. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 7>sort of the mac Jones experience in a nutshell. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>he's cocky and he does some weird stuff with the

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<v Speaker 7>hand stuff, but he cares about it and he's going

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<v Speaker 7>after it, and you get the idea of a guy

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<v Speaker 7>who's having fun playing.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's all mixed up into one.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and listen, it helps with some energy in the room, right,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you've got three games left and you're not

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<v Speaker 5>playing for the playoffs whatsoever, and you need that spark.

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<v Speaker 5>It can come from a lot of different places. You

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<v Speaker 5>hope it comes from within, but more importantly, when you've

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<v Speaker 5>got a quarterback guy that can function, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>you look at the situation with the Raiders right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean they are down to Desmond Ritter and they

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<v Speaker 5>could have Carter Bradley, maybe Aidan O'Connell, but I mean

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<v Speaker 5>they don't have a quarterback that can go out and

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<v Speaker 5>function at a high level, which is why they've lost

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<v Speaker 5>ten games in a row. Now, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 5>suggest to you that mac Jones is all of a

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<v Speaker 5>sudden going to go out and throw for three hundred

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<v Speaker 5>yards completing seventy percent of his passes, and he hasn't

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily performed at a super high level, but he's playing

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<v Speaker 5>better and that gives this offense a chance to function

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<v Speaker 5>better and perhaps get a win, and it some valuable

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<v Speaker 5>time with these young players having success. Who out there

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't want to see Brian Thomas Junior catch more passes

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<v Speaker 5>for more yards and more touchdowns. Matt Jones gives you

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<v Speaker 5>a chance to do that. And the fact that he

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<v Speaker 5>brings that energy, that spark that fun no good for.

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<v Speaker 2>Us, Absolutely definitely good for us. Our final big thing

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be ball. We do want people that

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<v Speaker 2>love to play football, and I think Brenton Strange is

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect example of that. We saw him in his

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<v Speaker 2>best game career game so far. Without Evan Ingram out there,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been getting a lot of the targets and just

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<v Speaker 2>his mentality is good.

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<v Speaker 1>For the team.

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<v Speaker 3>If the players don't have that mindset, or if I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have that mindset, it's going to set you back

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<v Speaker 3>even further. But if you come into it and you

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<v Speaker 3>embrace it, all right, we know, we know our situation,

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<v Speaker 3>we got it, we understand that. But I think these

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<v Speaker 3>next three weeks really can set us up for the future,

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<v Speaker 3>for the offseason, for next year and how we can

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<v Speaker 3>build and where we need to add pieces and all

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff, the development of our roster. But

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<v Speaker 3>having guys like Brenton make those comments, I mean, those

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<v Speaker 3>are the type of players you want, right You want

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<v Speaker 3>those football players that love being here in this building,

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<v Speaker 3>soaking up football, soaking up ball, love being on the grass.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the guys that you can build your team around.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've one of several, obviously, and many that we.

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<v Speaker 4>Have on the team that can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Renton after the game said he loves football and

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't need to find motivation to play in a

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<v Speaker 2>season where they don't have playoff contention because he loves

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<v Speaker 2>to play ball.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the perfect answer.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 5>And the question you had been asked of a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people, I hadn't heard the answer. And then Doug

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<v Speaker 5>said he had plenty of guys in that locker room

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<v Speaker 5>who expressed that, And I guess it makes sense that

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<v Speaker 5>the Jaguars have kept playing, they've kept fighting.

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<v Speaker 4>You haven't seen quit in them. He must.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I was working the locker room yesterday and

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<v Speaker 5>I did find guys that expressed it, some of them

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<v Speaker 5>on camera, on microphone, some of them off. Trayvon Walker

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<v Speaker 5>was one who just point blank said, look, we should

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<v Speaker 5>all come in the building every day as if it's

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<v Speaker 5>the first day of the season, our first day on

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<v Speaker 5>the job, because in the NFL, which is not a

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<v Speaker 5>very long career, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Better make the most of every moment.

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<v Speaker 5>So I did go looking this week and found plenty

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<v Speaker 5>of guys in the locker room who expressed the sentiment.

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<v Speaker 5>And John, to me, that's really important because we talk

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<v Speaker 5>about culture and it's sort of a word that you

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<v Speaker 5>can you know, mold to mean whatever you want. But

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<v Speaker 5>you got to have a locker room full of guys

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<v Speaker 5>that play because they love the game and because they're professionals.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I think for the most part they do.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's tough this time of year because you're

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<v Speaker 7>probably playing against a team of other people who have ball.

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<v Speaker 6>So.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a little bit of a you know, are you

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<v Speaker 7>trying ninety eight percent or is it one hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 6>Every day? Do I love it? Am? I passionate for it?

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<v Speaker 7>And I think that can be the difference this time

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<v Speaker 7>of year, because it's tough to find that hunger when

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<v Speaker 7>you're three and eleven. But I do think there are

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<v Speaker 7>guys in this locker room who have it, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think the last few weeks will be more chance for

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<v Speaker 7>the decision makers to make sure they have guys you

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<v Speaker 7>have it.

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<v Speaker 5>Enough and for all of those young guys that we

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<v Speaker 5>mentioned kai off the top to see what a professional

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<v Speaker 5>football season can be like when it doesn't go well,

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<v Speaker 5>and to learn and to understand and to actually execute.

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<v Speaker 5>Despite the record, It's Sunday, I'm the pro. I come

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<v Speaker 5>and play. That's why the last three weeks are so

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<v Speaker 5>critically important for this football team.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, stay with us here on Jagzam.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk a little bit about the Raiders

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<v Speaker 2>and what that matchup is going to look like on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>it out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great player, good young player. It's just his

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<v Speaker 3>ability to separate, get open obviously, you know, using him

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<v Speaker 3>the right way, and just making placeball, you know. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's a he's a dynamic tight end.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a dynamic working on our team and Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas Junior and now we have a dynamic I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>a dynamic tight end to be dealing with as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you look at that, Brian, what's something you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen from Brock Bauers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's impressive.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I mean just his catch radius. I mean it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't seem to matter where the ball is delivered. And

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know that he's got freakishly long arms. He's

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<v Speaker 5>just one of those guys who it feels like the

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<v Speaker 5>ball is connected to him, John when you watch him play.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, I saw him plenty when he was at Georgia,

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<v Speaker 5>and I wasn't quite sure how that was going to translate. Ball.

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<v Speaker 5>Looks like he might be first team All Pro. He's

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<v Speaker 5>the best tight end in the game by numbers this year.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>He strikes me a little like when Justin was here.

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<v Speaker 7>Justin Blackman that when the ball was in the air,

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<v Speaker 7>he just caught it and he had bitter hands and

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<v Speaker 7>he was more powerful than other people. Brock looks like that.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm with you and watching him at Georgia. I'm always

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<v Speaker 7>a little hesitant when I see a player in college

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<v Speaker 7>who dominates physically, because you think, can he dominate physically

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<v Speaker 7>against grown men as compared to sometimes you're playing boys.

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<v Speaker 6>But boy see I did that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I called a transition and it was very well executed.

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<v Speaker 7>He's he's really impressive, and he looks like a tight

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<v Speaker 7>end is a position where there's usually a guy in

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<v Speaker 7>the league for a stretch, and it looks like he's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>The guy after Kelsey, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I asked, though, Richard kind of player than Kelsey, but

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<v Speaker 7>he'll be the guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I talked to the Jacks tight ends coach Richard and

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<v Speaker 5>Goolo yesterday Kai and was just asking him about Bowers,

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<v Speaker 5>and he gave me a good answer, and then he

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<v Speaker 5>looked at me like, did you not expect that? I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>the people that evaluated tight ends were just so enamored

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<v Speaker 5>with him coming out, and all of them were stunned

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<v Speaker 5>to see him slide because he's a tight end and

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<v Speaker 5>not a wide receiver. But he's one of those guys

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<v Speaker 5>that should have been taken much higher.

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<v Speaker 2>And we talk about, well, we also, I'm sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna say, we talked about what these guys are

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<v Speaker 2>doing on bad teams as well. The Raiders barely have

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback to throw it to him, and he's still

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<v Speaker 2>with nine hundred sixty eight yards of both here.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Bowers is a little bit of a of a

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<v Speaker 7>cautionary tale because.

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<v Speaker 6>And what I mean by that is at the.

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<v Speaker 7>Combine last year, he didn't have a great workout, if

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<v Speaker 7>he even worked out, but there were questions is he

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<v Speaker 7>a little heavy? Is he perfect specimen coming in? And

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<v Speaker 7>sometimes when those little things start going onto the combine,

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<v Speaker 7>you forget that.

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<v Speaker 6>The guy can just play.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, So, I mean that is another one where I

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<v Speaker 7>remember Tom Brady's workout picture with that in the Hall

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<v Speaker 7>of Fame.

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<v Speaker 6>So maybe doing with this kid too.

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<v Speaker 5>If they have any hope of having success offensively.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously Bowers has to be involved. Don't forget.

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<v Speaker 5>They took Michael Mayer, the Notre Dame tight end, the

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<v Speaker 5>year before in the second route, and he's a very

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<v Speaker 5>talented kid. So they've got two guys out there that

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<v Speaker 5>can really move in the middle of the field. Jaguars

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<v Speaker 5>had Devin Lloyd that crew better have their head straight

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<v Speaker 5>because those two tight ends can turn you inside out.

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<v Speaker 6>We're always fine against.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do really well against tight ends historically, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that it'll be just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk a little bit about this offense. Obviously we're

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<v Speaker 1>watching it right now, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Head coach of the Raiders, Antonio Pierce, said he feels

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<v Speaker 2>Aidan O'Connell's trending up, so it's likely a game time decision,

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<v Speaker 2>but he looks like he could play this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure it necessarily matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, Desmond Ridder got the start against the Falcons on

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<v Speaker 2>Monday Night Football and that was not very pretty. So

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<v Speaker 2>does it matter who plays or we just trying to.

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<v Speaker 7>It matters a little because there are different kinds of players.

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<v Speaker 7>Ridder is going to run a little more. O'Connell's more

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<v Speaker 7>in the pocket and talking to Victor Fours with.

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<v Speaker 6>The Athletic Covers the Raiders and.

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<v Speaker 7>Said, look, they started off the season with a you

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<v Speaker 7>know well, wanting to run, wanting to throw play action

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<v Speaker 7>and he said that was an awesome idea when they

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<v Speaker 7>had Devonte Adams.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 7>O'Connor is going to be in the pocket and vig

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<v Speaker 7>things he'll play. He's gonna be in the pocket. They're

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<v Speaker 7>gonna know where he is. He's not mobile. Uh so

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<v Speaker 7>it it's a dramatically different kind of game they're.

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<v Speaker 6>Gonna play with O'Connell and it would be rare.

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<v Speaker 2>There's who we will get out there. It will be interesting, certainly.

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<v Speaker 2>Say we let's say we're gonna give you our predictions

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do our best at predicting what the headlines

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna be on Monday after this riveting Jaguars Raiders

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<v Speaker 2>game in Las Vegas this weekend, at least we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>a nice backdrop. I'm very excited to see Allegiance Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you predict the headlines they're.

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<v Speaker 5>Gonna be brand Well, it has not been a very

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<v Speaker 5>fun season, but Mac Jones has sort of been the

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<v Speaker 5>theme this week. So you know, he had fun last week,

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<v Speaker 5>So I say fun in Vegas. Who doesn't have fun

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<v Speaker 5>in Vegas? And I just I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Mac Jones is the differentiator.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he'll be able to execute the offense, and

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<v Speaker 5>we saw last week twenty five points in opening drive touchdown,

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<v Speaker 5>the kind of things that we didn't think would be

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<v Speaker 5>storylines when the season started, but some some offense and

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<v Speaker 5>obviously Brian Thomas Junior just exploding last week. So I

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<v Speaker 5>think the Jags go out and there aren't many teams

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<v Speaker 5>that you'd say, well, they're gonna win on the road,

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<v Speaker 5>not not a team that's only won three games all year,

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<v Speaker 5>but they've only won two and they've lost ten in

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<v Speaker 5>a row. So I say the fun thing comes through

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<v Speaker 5>with Mac Jones and the Jags have a nice flight home.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you he's not gonna have fun in Vegas

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<v Speaker 7>any of us because the league. So you know, I've

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<v Speaker 7>never been to Vegabe on stage and I've never been

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<v Speaker 7>to Vegas, and apparently I won't even go this week

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<v Speaker 7>because he can't go to Sama, which I'm fine with.

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<v Speaker 7>I went a different direction, and I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 7>even know if I believe my headline, but I was

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<v Speaker 7>trying to figure out way to do what happens in

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<v Speaker 7>Vegas stays in Vegas. So I said, what happened in

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<v Speaker 7>Vegas needs to stay in Vegas. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>if I believe it, but I think there's a chance

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<v Speaker 7>that the Jags would go out there. It's almost a

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<v Speaker 7>West Coast trip. It's late in the season. We've all

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<v Speaker 7>seen sort of some of the things that happened West

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<v Speaker 7>Coast with this team historically. I don't know I they

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<v Speaker 7>believe that translate, but you could see a game where

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<v Speaker 7>the West Coast trip playoff ramifications. I think they get

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<v Speaker 7>blown out, but they're flying back and saying we should

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<v Speaker 7>have won that one and it just didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 6>Again.

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<v Speaker 7>The headline really is more because I couldn't think of

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<v Speaker 7>anything else other than what happens in Vegas is something.

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<v Speaker 5>Historically speaking, the Jaguars had only ever beaten the Raiders

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<v Speaker 5>on the West Coast. They never won in San Seattle,

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<v Speaker 5>they never won in San Francisco, they had never won

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<v Speaker 5>in San Diego, and then in twenty twenty two they

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<v Speaker 5>went out and beat the Chargers. So the only team

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<v Speaker 5>that they've really had sustained success against on the West

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<v Speaker 5>Coast is the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 4>But I agree with Johnny, it could go either way

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<v Speaker 4>when you got.

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<v Speaker 1>These two teams, I think so too.

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to air with positivity and go with

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars. But I said jackpot because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>both of these teams had the jackpot with their with

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<v Speaker 2>their picks in the draft this year. Obviously, Raiders very

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<v Speaker 2>happy with Brock Bowers. We were very happy with Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas Junior, especially after the last game when the two

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<v Speaker 2>touchdowns and breaking those rookie records.

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<v Speaker 1>Next is to come.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's one more rookie record and then there's

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand yards receiving and hopefully we'll see as high

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<v Speaker 2>as we can go in these last three weeks and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully they've cracked the formulas getting in their football.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I believe he's tied with for the number of catches.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he just needs one more catch to break that.

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<v Speaker 5>And on that one, which one.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and even beyond the records, because the Jaguars rookie

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<v Speaker 7>record it wasn't exactly Babe Ruth seven fourteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 7>But where he's gonna wind up, it looks like he

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<v Speaker 7>could wind up with eleven hundred and fifty twelve hundred

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<v Speaker 7>yards and not ten or eleven touchdowns. That's a really

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<v Speaker 7>good NFL rookie wide receiver season, and it shows you

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<v Speaker 7>he's not gonna sneak over a thousand yards. He's got

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<v Speaker 7>a chance to have a good number, and he's he's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be really really good.

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<v Speaker 5>Touchdowns would either tie or break the franchise record for

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<v Speaker 5>most touchdowns by a receiver in a season. So that

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<v Speaker 5>hasn't happened very often.

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<v Speaker 2>Record books are calling. We'll see what happens. Enjoy the

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<v Speaker 2>game this weekend. If you're going to Vegas, enjoy the trip,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've forgot how many blocks of the show we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing today. We do want to talk a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about a special moment for one of our Jaguars legends,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Rashie Mathis was honored by being named to the twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five class for the Black College Football Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 5>which I guess is going to have a wing in

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<v Speaker 5>the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Campton. I was

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<v Speaker 5>texting with him last night and he's the same great

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<v Speaker 5>guy that he was when he showed up here as

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<v Speaker 5>a rookie in two thousand and three Englewood High product

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<v Speaker 5>who came in as a safety and they moved him

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<v Speaker 5>to corner and he turned out John and I know

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<v Speaker 5>you were an Indy for most of his career, but

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<v Speaker 5>turned out to be just a great football player. Finished

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<v Speaker 5>with thirty two interceptions, right and he had nine force

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<v Speaker 5>fumbles you saw that one right there. Five takeaways and

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<v Speaker 5>fumbles recovered so he has thirty seven career takeaways, and

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<v Speaker 5>he had so many big ones against Ben Roethlisberger and

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<v Speaker 5>this Steelers, including this one in a postseason game that

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<v Speaker 5>gave the Jaguars an early.

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<v Speaker 4>Lead that they never relinquished.

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<v Speaker 5>Rashee Mathis was truly a great cornerback for the Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 5>Damn good football player and a really good person. I

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<v Speaker 5>just I want to follow up with this and tell

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<v Speaker 5>you how many people run into Rachine and tell me

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<v Speaker 5>that he's their kids baseball coach, and what a great

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<v Speaker 5>coach he is. Rashie Mathis a local kid, made good

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<v Speaker 5>and honored by the Black College Football Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 4>Couldn't come for a better person than Rachine.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I only I think I cover seen two years

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<v Speaker 7>when I got back in eleven and twelve.

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<v Speaker 6>I forget what year he left.

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<v Speaker 4>He left in beat team.

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<v Speaker 7>So but he's one of the guys from that era

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<v Speaker 7>that I remember thinking, Boy, I wish I'd been around

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<v Speaker 7>him longer because he was a great player and I.

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<v Speaker 6>Really enjoyed being around him. And congratulations to him.

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<v Speaker 5>Class At made lots of big plays and key moments,

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<v Speaker 5>and Jaguars fans remember that was named the Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 5>and went wait.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>He was named All Pro one year and much of

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<v Speaker 5>the Pro Bowl twice. Should have been more, but he

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<v Speaker 5>didn't play on a lot of great teams.

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<v Speaker 4>But a really really really.

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<v Speaker 1>Good football player, very well deserved. I'm glad to hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>Congratulations to Mashina and his family.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely all right. Now we are leaving. We hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the game this

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<v Speaker 2>Week and enjoy Vegas if you're going, and we will

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<v Speaker 2>be back next week to talk about it.