1 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Welcome into jag Zam. It's week sixteen. 2 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: I'm ka Nannie Stevens, and Brian and John are with 3 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: me here today as well. We're going to talk a 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: little bit about this game in Las Vegas that's coming 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: up as the Jaguars get ready for their final three 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: games of the season. So let's start out with big 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: thing number one, which is time. 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: There are three. 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: Remaining games in this regular season, and because there's no 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: playoff contention for this team, it is time to focus 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: on the younger players. 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: From a coaching perspective, gives you an idea of the 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 3: type of player that you drafted and you brought on 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: your team. And then for the player, it gives him 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 3: confidence going into you know. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 4: The offseason. 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: I look back to what Buster did his rookie year 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 3: and then the chances he got to play early on 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: how that catapulted him into this season, you know. 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: And and and so that's a that's a great. 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: Example, right and and then even looking ahead, like the 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: confidence that you see in Tank and the confidence you 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: see in Brenton. And you know, Anton's been a day 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: one starter, but the young players that have played Antonio 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: Johnson's playing more this year and the more or the better. 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: I should say that they play in these last couple 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: of games will give them the confidence I think moving forward. 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: Frian, we've been talking a lot about this. Now we're 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: actually seeing it come to fruition. 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: And any of those names stick out to you. 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of them do. 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 5: The one though, that he mentioned later in the interview 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: was Trey Prince. And and here's why that's important. Right, 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 5: Prince came in as a guy from Old miss He's 35 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 5: got all the trades. He's he's got height, he's got length, 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 5: he's got speed, he's got an attitude too. He's still 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 5: pissed off that he was drafted in the fifth round. 38 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: But he's a guy that's got the traits that can 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 5: be a player for you. You want to find out what 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: he's got because when you go into the the draft 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 5: process now next year, do you know if he is 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 5: a guy that you can count on? Do you think 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 5: he's a guy you can count on or do you 44 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 5: not know anything about it? Well, you'd like to have 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 5: some idea because at the top of the draft next year, 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 5: or a couple of cornerbacks that you might be interested in. 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 5: So knowing exactly what you've got is critically important at 48 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 5: this time of year. 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: So listen. 50 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 5: Ronald Darby, ten year veteran, helps you win games, not 51 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 5: important right now. I got to see Trey Prince. I've 52 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 5: got to know if he's a guy can go forward. 53 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: I kind of know what monterk Brown is. Christian Braswell's 54 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: another guy. I'm just using the cornerback position because I 55 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 5: know it's one that people are focused on as an area. 56 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: The Jaguars got to get better. 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: John. 58 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, you'd like to see a little bit of Jefferson 59 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 6: and Prince. 60 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 7: Javon Foster is tempting, but it's awfully hard just to 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 7: throw offensive linemen in there if they're not ready. It's 62 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 7: so much cohesion and you don't want to have the 63 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 7: offense not be functional because of one guy. Look, there's 64 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 7: all the draft position versus winning and what matters and 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 7: all that, but to me, in the last three games, 66 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 7: really take it for the last five. If they win 67 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 7: a few and they screw up their draft position, forget 68 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 7: the draft position for a second. If they win a 69 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 7: few and you'll love what Prince did, or you'll love 70 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 7: what Mason Smith did, and those guys feel like they're 71 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 7: standing in the locker room and saying I mattered in 72 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 7: this one. 73 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 6: I'm part of this. I feel confident going forward. 74 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 7: If you have nine or ten young guys who get 75 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 7: that feeling of we lifted it, then I think the 76 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 7: draft position losing it is okay. Frank, I'm not gonna 77 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 7: pick on Ronald Darby, but if Ronald Darby's staying in 78 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 7: the azine with a pick six and they won the 79 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 7: game because of that and he's not here next year, 80 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 7: then you sort of wonder was it worth it? 81 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: Sure, let's go to our second big thing, which is spark. 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about Mac Jones and the energy 83 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: he brings to the field, but he also hopes that 84 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: it's spreading to his teammates as well. 85 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 8: So I think we've had some good results here in 86 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 8: terms of like moving the ball and and like you said, 87 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 8: having fun guys making plays and really not letting one 88 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 8: play turn into like a snowball effect. Does that make sense? 89 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 8: So just kind of just playing each play one play 90 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 8: at a time and keeping it loose. Whether we did 91 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 8: something good on the first series or something bad. So 92 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 8: you gotta play each play, like I say, always, and 93 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 8: I think it definitely carries over to them. I think 94 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 8: that fits the personalities in the room, myself included, and 95 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 8: the coaches, and it's not been the best season so far, 96 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 8: but we're also still striving for perfection and keeping it 97 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 8: fun and loose and trying to win. 98 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: John, we talk a lot about the mac Jones experience. 99 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: Some mistakes will be made, but the energy's always there 100 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: and it's always entertaining. 101 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, after the game the other day, I've watched the Jets, 102 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 7: I walked into the house and my wife would watched 103 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 7: the game and she said, you know that mac Jones 104 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 7: is cocky. There we go, and she said, but I 105 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 7: kind of wanted him to win. So I think that's 106 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 7: sort of the mac Jones experience in a nutshell. Yeah, 107 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 7: he's cocky and he does some weird stuff with the 108 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 7: hand stuff, but he cares about it and he's going 109 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 7: after it, and you get the idea of a guy 110 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 7: who's having fun playing. 111 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 6: So it's all mixed up into one. 112 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 5: Well, and listen, it helps with some energy in the room, right, 113 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 5: I mean, you've got three games left and you're not 114 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 5: playing for the playoffs whatsoever, and you need that spark. 115 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 5: It can come from a lot of different places. You 116 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: hope it comes from within, but more importantly, when you've 117 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 5: got a quarterback guy that can function, right, I mean 118 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 5: you look at the situation with the Raiders right now. 119 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: I mean they are down to Desmond Ritter and they 120 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 5: could have Carter Bradley, maybe Aidan O'Connell, but I mean 121 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: they don't have a quarterback that can go out and 122 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 5: function at a high level, which is why they've lost 123 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 5: ten games in a row. Now, I'm not going to 124 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 5: suggest to you that mac Jones is all of a 125 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: sudden going to go out and throw for three hundred 126 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 5: yards completing seventy percent of his passes, and he hasn't 127 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 5: necessarily performed at a super high level, but he's playing 128 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: better and that gives this offense a chance to function 129 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 5: better and perhaps get a win, and it some valuable 130 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 5: time with these young players having success. Who out there 131 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 5: doesn't want to see Brian Thomas Junior catch more passes 132 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: for more yards and more touchdowns. Matt Jones gives you 133 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 5: a chance to do that. And the fact that he 134 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 5: brings that energy, that spark that fun no good for. 135 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: Us, Absolutely definitely good for us. Our final big thing 136 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: is going to be ball. We do want people that 137 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: love to play football, and I think Brenton Strange is 138 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: a perfect example of that. We saw him in his 139 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: best game career game so far. Without Evan Ingram out there, 140 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: he's been getting a lot of the targets and just 141 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: his mentality is good. 142 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: For the team. 143 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: If the players don't have that mindset, or if I 144 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: don't have that mindset, it's going to set you back 145 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: even further. But if you come into it and you 146 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: embrace it, all right, we know, we know our situation, 147 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: we got it, we understand that. But I think these 148 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: next three weeks really can set us up for the future, 149 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: for the offseason, for next year and how we can 150 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: build and where we need to add pieces and all 151 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, the development of our roster. But 152 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: having guys like Brenton make those comments, I mean, those 153 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: are the type of players you want, right You want 154 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: those football players that love being here in this building, 155 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: soaking up football, soaking up ball, love being on the grass. 156 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: Those are the guys that you can build your team around. 157 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: And we've one of several, obviously, and many that we. 158 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: Have on the team that can do that. 159 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: Ryan Renton after the game said he loves football and 160 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: he doesn't need to find motivation to play in a 161 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: season where they don't have playoff contention because he loves 162 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: to play ball. 163 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 4: I love it. 164 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: That's the perfect answer. 165 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: No, I loved it. 166 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 5: And the question you had been asked of a lot 167 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 5: of people, I hadn't heard the answer. And then Doug 168 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 5: said he had plenty of guys in that locker room 169 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 5: who expressed that, And I guess it makes sense that 170 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: the Jaguars have kept playing, they've kept fighting. 171 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: You haven't seen quit in them. He must. 172 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 5: And so I was working the locker room yesterday and 173 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: I did find guys that expressed it, some of them 174 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 5: on camera, on microphone, some of them off. Trayvon Walker 175 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 5: was one who just point blank said, look, we should 176 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 5: all come in the building every day as if it's 177 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 5: the first day of the season, our first day on 178 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 5: the job, because in the NFL, which is not a 179 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 5: very long career, you. 180 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 4: Better make the most of every moment. 181 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 5: So I did go looking this week and found plenty 182 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 5: of guys in the locker room who expressed the sentiment. 183 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 5: And John, to me, that's really important because we talk 184 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 5: about culture and it's sort of a word that you 185 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 5: can you know, mold to mean whatever you want. But 186 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: you got to have a locker room full of guys 187 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: that play because they love the game and because they're professionals. 188 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think for the most part they do. 189 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 7: I think it's tough this time of year because you're 190 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 7: probably playing against a team of other people who have ball. 191 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 6: So. 192 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 7: There's a little bit of a you know, are you 193 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 7: trying ninety eight percent or is it one hundred percent? 194 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 6: Every day? Do I love it? Am? I passionate for it? 195 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 7: And I think that can be the difference this time 196 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 7: of year, because it's tough to find that hunger when 197 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 7: you're three and eleven. But I do think there are 198 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 7: guys in this locker room who have it, and I 199 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 7: think the last few weeks will be more chance for 200 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 7: the decision makers to make sure they have guys you 201 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 7: have it. 202 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 5: Enough and for all of those young guys that we 203 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: mentioned kai off the top to see what a professional 204 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 5: football season can be like when it doesn't go well, 205 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 5: and to learn and to understand and to actually execute. 206 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: Despite the record, It's Sunday, I'm the pro. I come 207 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 5: and play. That's why the last three weeks are so 208 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,479 Speaker 5: critically important for this football team. 209 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: All right, stay with us here on Jagzam. 210 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little bit about the Raiders 211 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:35,359 Speaker 2: and what that matchup is going to look like on Sunday. 212 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back to jag Zam, brought to you by Field 213 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: Auto Group, Jacksonville's premiere luxury autogroup. 214 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: You can head over to fields Auto dot com check 215 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: it out. 216 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: It's a great player, good young player. It's just his 217 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: ability to separate, get open obviously, you know, using him 218 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: the right way, and just making placeball, you know. And 219 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: he's a he's a dynamic tight end. 220 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: We have a dynamic working on our team and Brian 221 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: Thomas Junior and now we have a dynamic I would say, 222 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 2: a dynamic tight end to be dealing with as well. 223 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: So when you look at that, Brian, what's something you've 224 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: seen from Brock Bauers. 225 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: It's impressive. 226 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 5: No, I mean just his catch radius. I mean it 227 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 5: doesn't seem to matter where the ball is delivered. And 228 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 5: I don't know that he's got freakishly long arms. He's 229 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 5: just one of those guys who it feels like the 230 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 5: ball is connected to him, John when you watch him play. 231 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 5: Of course, I saw him plenty when he was at Georgia, 232 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 5: and I wasn't quite sure how that was going to translate. Ball. 233 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 5: Looks like he might be first team All Pro. He's 234 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: the best tight end in the game by numbers this year. 235 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 7: Yeah. 236 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 6: He strikes me a little like when Justin was here. 237 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 7: Justin Blackman that when the ball was in the air, 238 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 7: he just caught it and he had bitter hands and 239 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 7: he was more powerful than other people. Brock looks like that. 240 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 7: I'm with you and watching him at Georgia. I'm always 241 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 7: a little hesitant when I see a player in college 242 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,119 Speaker 7: who dominates physically, because you think, can he dominate physically 243 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 7: against grown men as compared to sometimes you're playing boys. 244 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 6: But boy see I did that. 245 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I called a transition and it was very well executed. 246 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 7: He's he's really impressive, and he looks like a tight 247 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 7: end is a position where there's usually a guy in 248 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 7: the league for a stretch, and it looks like he's 249 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 7: going to be. 250 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 6: The guy after Kelsey, you know. 251 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 7: I asked, though, Richard kind of player than Kelsey, but 252 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 7: he'll be the guy. 253 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 5: I talked to the Jacks tight ends coach Richard and 254 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 5: Goolo yesterday Kai and was just asking him about Bowers, 255 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 5: and he gave me a good answer, and then he 256 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 5: looked at me like, did you not expect that? I mean, 257 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 5: the people that evaluated tight ends were just so enamored 258 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 5: with him coming out, and all of them were stunned 259 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 5: to see him slide because he's a tight end and 260 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 5: not a wide receiver. But he's one of those guys 261 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 5: that should have been taken much higher. 262 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: And we talk about, well, we also, I'm sorry, I'm 263 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: just gonna say, we talked about what these guys are 264 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 2: doing on bad teams as well. The Raiders barely have 265 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: a quarterback to throw it to him, and he's still 266 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 2: with nine hundred sixty eight yards of both here. 267 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, Bowers is a little bit of a of a 268 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 7: cautionary tale because. 269 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 6: And what I mean by that is at the. 270 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 7: Combine last year, he didn't have a great workout, if 271 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 7: he even worked out, but there were questions is he 272 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 7: a little heavy? Is he perfect specimen coming in? And 273 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 7: sometimes when those little things start going onto the combine, 274 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 7: you forget that. 275 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 6: The guy can just play. 276 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 277 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 7: Right, So, I mean that is another one where I 278 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 7: remember Tom Brady's workout picture with that in the Hall 279 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 7: of Fame. 280 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 6: So maybe doing with this kid too. 281 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 5: If they have any hope of having success offensively. 282 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: Obviously Bowers has to be involved. Don't forget. 283 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 5: They took Michael Mayer, the Notre Dame tight end, the 284 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 5: year before in the second route, and he's a very 285 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 5: talented kid. So they've got two guys out there that 286 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 5: can really move in the middle of the field. Jaguars 287 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 5: had Devin Lloyd that crew better have their head straight 288 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 5: because those two tight ends can turn you inside out. 289 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 6: We're always fine against. 290 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do really well against tight ends historically, so 291 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure that it'll be just fine. 292 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about this offense. Obviously we're 293 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: watching it right now, but. 294 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: Head coach of the Raiders, Antonio Pierce, said he feels 295 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell's trending up, so it's likely a game time decision, 296 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: but he looks like he could play this weekend. 297 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it necessarily matters. 298 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: Obviously, Desmond Ridder got the start against the Falcons on 299 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: Monday Night Football and that was not very pretty. So 300 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 2: does it matter who plays or we just trying to. 301 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 7: It matters a little because there are different kinds of players. 302 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 7: Ridder is going to run a little more. O'Connell's more 303 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 7: in the pocket and talking to Victor Fours with. 304 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 6: The Athletic Covers the Raiders and. 305 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 7: Said, look, they started off the season with a you 306 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 7: know well, wanting to run, wanting to throw play action 307 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 7: and he said that was an awesome idea when they 308 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 7: had Devonte Adams. 309 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, so. 310 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 7: O'Connor is going to be in the pocket and vig 311 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 7: things he'll play. He's gonna be in the pocket. They're 312 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 7: gonna know where he is. He's not mobile. Uh so 313 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 7: it it's a dramatically different kind of game they're. 314 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 6: Gonna play with O'Connell and it would be rare. 315 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 2: There's who we will get out there. It will be interesting, certainly. 316 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 2: Say we let's say we're gonna give you our predictions 317 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: for tomorrow's headlines today coming up after the break, jag 318 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: Van brought to you by Suttis Lord's trusted and reliable 319 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: moving company. Setus is proud to be the official moving 320 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: company of the Jacksonville Jaguars. To get a guaranteed quote, 321 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: visit suttist dot com. 322 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: Slash Jacks welcome back into jag Van. 323 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna do our best at predicting what the headlines 324 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: are gonna be on Monday after this riveting Jaguars Raiders 325 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: game in Las Vegas this weekend, at least we'll have 326 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: a nice backdrop. I'm very excited to see Allegiance Stadium. 327 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: So what do you predict the headlines they're. 328 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 5: Gonna be brand Well, it has not been a very 329 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 5: fun season, but Mac Jones has sort of been the 330 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 5: theme this week. So you know, he had fun last week, 331 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 5: So I say fun in Vegas. Who doesn't have fun 332 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 5: in Vegas? And I just I think. 333 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: Mac Jones is the differentiator. 334 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 5: I think he'll be able to execute the offense, and 335 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: we saw last week twenty five points in opening drive touchdown, 336 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 5: the kind of things that we didn't think would be 337 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 5: storylines when the season started, but some some offense and 338 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 5: obviously Brian Thomas Junior just exploding last week. So I 339 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 5: think the Jags go out and there aren't many teams 340 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 5: that you'd say, well, they're gonna win on the road, 341 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 5: not not a team that's only won three games all year, 342 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 5: but they've only won two and they've lost ten in 343 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: a row. So I say the fun thing comes through 344 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 5: with Mac Jones and the Jags have a nice flight home. 345 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 7: I'll tell you he's not gonna have fun in Vegas 346 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 7: any of us because the league. So you know, I've 347 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 7: never been to Vegabe on stage and I've never been 348 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 7: to Vegas, and apparently I won't even go this week 349 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 7: because he can't go to Sama, which I'm fine with. 350 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 7: I went a different direction, and I don't I don't 351 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 7: even know if I believe my headline, but I was 352 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 7: trying to figure out way to do what happens in 353 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 7: Vegas stays in Vegas. So I said, what happened in 354 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 7: Vegas needs to stay in Vegas. And I don't know 355 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 7: if I believe it, but I think there's a chance 356 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 7: that the Jags would go out there. It's almost a 357 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 7: West Coast trip. It's late in the season. We've all 358 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 7: seen sort of some of the things that happened West 359 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 7: Coast with this team historically. I don't know I they 360 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 7: believe that translate, but you could see a game where 361 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 7: the West Coast trip playoff ramifications. I think they get 362 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 7: blown out, but they're flying back and saying we should 363 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 7: have won that one and it just didn't happen. 364 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 6: Again. 365 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 7: The headline really is more because I couldn't think of 366 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 7: anything else other than what happens in Vegas is something. 367 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 5: Historically speaking, the Jaguars had only ever beaten the Raiders 368 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 5: on the West Coast. They never won in San Seattle, 369 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 5: they never won in San Francisco, they had never won 370 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 5: in San Diego, and then in twenty twenty two they 371 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 5: went out and beat the Chargers. So the only team 372 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 5: that they've really had sustained success against on the West 373 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 5: Coast is the Raiders. 374 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: But I agree with Johnny, it could go either way 375 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: when you got. 376 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: These two teams, I think so too. 377 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: I am going to air with positivity and go with 378 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: the Jaguars. But I said jackpot because I feel like 379 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: both of these teams had the jackpot with their with 380 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: their picks in the draft this year. Obviously, Raiders very 381 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: happy with Brock Bowers. We were very happy with Brian 382 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: Thomas Junior, especially after the last game when the two 383 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: touchdowns and breaking those rookie records. 384 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: Next is to come. 385 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: I think there's one more rookie record and then there's 386 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: a thousand yards receiving and hopefully we'll see as high 387 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 2: as we can go in these last three weeks and 388 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 2: hopefully they've cracked the formulas getting in their football. 389 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 5: Well, I believe he's tied with for the number of catches. 390 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 5: I think he just needs one more catch to break that. 391 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 5: And on that one, which one. 392 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, and even beyond the records, because the Jaguars rookie 393 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 7: record it wasn't exactly Babe Ruth seven fourteen ninety eight. 394 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 7: But where he's gonna wind up, it looks like he 395 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 7: could wind up with eleven hundred and fifty twelve hundred 396 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 7: yards and not ten or eleven touchdowns. That's a really 397 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 7: good NFL rookie wide receiver season, and it shows you 398 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 7: he's not gonna sneak over a thousand yards. He's got 399 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 7: a chance to have a good number, and he's he's 400 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 7: going to be really really good. 401 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 5: Touchdowns would either tie or break the franchise record for 402 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 5: most touchdowns by a receiver in a season. So that 403 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 5: hasn't happened very often. 404 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: Record books are calling. We'll see what happens. Enjoy the 405 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: game this weekend. If you're going to Vegas, enjoy the trip, 406 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: and we'll be back on Monday or Tuesday to talk 407 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: a little bit about what went down. 408 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars brought to you by Dreams these Jags fans. 409 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: If you want customize Jaguars furniture for your home, check 410 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: out zipchare dot com to brought all the customizable options. 411 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: Zip Chair is furniture for fans. Welcome back before we leave, 412 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 2: because I've forgot how many blocks of the show we 413 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: were doing today. We do want to talk a little 414 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: bit about a special moment for one of our Jaguars legends, 415 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: Brian Yeah. 416 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 5: Rashie Mathis was honored by being named to the twenty 417 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 5: twenty five class for the Black College Football Hall of Fame, 418 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 5: which I guess is going to have a wing in 419 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 5: the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Campton. I was 420 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 5: texting with him last night and he's the same great 421 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 5: guy that he was when he showed up here as 422 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 5: a rookie in two thousand and three Englewood High product 423 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 5: who came in as a safety and they moved him 424 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 5: to corner and he turned out John and I know 425 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 5: you were an Indy for most of his career, but 426 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 5: turned out to be just a great football player. Finished 427 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 5: with thirty two interceptions, right and he had nine force 428 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 5: fumbles you saw that one right there. Five takeaways and 429 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 5: fumbles recovered so he has thirty seven career takeaways, and 430 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 5: he had so many big ones against Ben Roethlisberger and 431 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 5: this Steelers, including this one in a postseason game that 432 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 5: gave the Jaguars an early. 433 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: Lead that they never relinquished. 434 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 5: Rashee Mathis was truly a great cornerback for the Jaguars. 435 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 5: Damn good football player and a really good person. I 436 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: just I want to follow up with this and tell 437 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 5: you how many people run into Rachine and tell me 438 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 5: that he's their kids baseball coach, and what a great 439 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 5: coach he is. Rashie Mathis a local kid, made good 440 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 5: and honored by the Black College Football Hall of Fame. 441 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 4: Couldn't come for a better person than Rachine. 442 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, I only I think I cover seen two years 443 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 7: when I got back in eleven and twelve. 444 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 6: I forget what year he left. 445 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 4: He left in beat team. 446 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 7: So but he's one of the guys from that era 447 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 7: that I remember thinking, Boy, I wish I'd been around 448 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 7: him longer because he was a great player and I. 449 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 6: Really enjoyed being around him. And congratulations to him. 450 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 5: Class At made lots of big plays and key moments, 451 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 5: and Jaguars fans remember that was named the Pro Bowl 452 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 5: and went wait. 453 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 4: Sorry. 454 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 5: He was named All Pro one year and much of 455 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl twice. Should have been more, but he 456 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 5: didn't play on a lot of great teams. 457 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 4: But a really really really. 458 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: Good football player, very well deserved. I'm glad to hear it. 459 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: Congratulations to Mashina and his family. 460 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right. Now we are leaving. We hope you 461 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: enjoy the game this 462 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: Week and enjoy Vegas if you're going, and we will 463 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: be back next week to talk about it.