1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is the business of sports. Should Major League Baseball 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: shorten up the season? How do we present football to 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: the audience of the future. I don't think that most 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: players understand the power that they have. Michael. The future 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: of IndyCar racing is looking bright. Scott Sashnik, very basic 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: math here, more bidders means more money. Evan Nobody Williams. 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: The team value has essentially quadruples. And the leaders in 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: the sports industry. Time to bring in our guest, al Stinbrunner, 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Betman, Atlanta Braves president Derek Schiller, 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: Patriots President Jonathan Kraft. Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Hello, 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: I'm Michael barn I'm Evan Nobie Williams, and I'm Scott Sashnik. 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Every week at this time, plus Mondays and Wednesdays, we 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: explore the big money issues in the world of sports. Today, 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: we sit down with one of the leading figures in 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: collegiate sports, Mike Aresco, Commissioner of the American Athletic Conference 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: or a a C. That is coming up in a 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: few minutes, but first let's look at some of the 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: other stories we are watching this week. And we begin with, well, 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: it's a grim anniversary, the tenure anniversary of the car 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: crash that began the downfall of Tiger Woods. Well, yes, 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: but we're talking about it in the sense of sports business, 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: because as that story unfolded, it was like, Wow, is 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Tiger done? Does everybody dump him? But Nike stood by him? 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Where are we have been? A decade clear from that? 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: Tigers one of masters again. He's popular as ever, people 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: want to see him on TV without him the PGA 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: tour is what um remember when people said Tiger would 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: be back. Tiger's back and and probably for the long haul. Yeah, 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: he's back. Ish I mean that that that car incident 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: was the start of many of many problems for him. 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Not how many days in a row was he on 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: the cover of the New York post Man? It was 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: some crazy eclipsed the following year two years later by 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Michael Michael Jackson. Or was that before? I thought? I 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: thought only Anthony Weiner could have competed. Were you were 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: you working that day? Yes you were, Yes, I was 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: in college. But I remember not grasping the severity of 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: what had happened until you know, days and then weeks later. 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: Did you realize immediately that oh, yeah, this could be Yeah, 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: because on the Bloomberg terminal, every time we wrote Tiger Woods, 41 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: it was just massive consumption. You couldn't write enough about 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: Tiger And then this was like, well I remember that 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: day because I was back at ABC and I and 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shoot, and you knew this was bad. Uh. 45 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: If anything else, it took the shine off Tiger Woods 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: because you you looked at him, you had him on 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: this pedestal, and then all of a sudden blam, It's 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: like what was going to happen to all of his 49 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: sponsorships and on down the line. Yeah, that was a 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: very awkward press conference too, with his mother sitting there 51 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: in the very awkward press conference. Up next, we have 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: were that Meg Whitman, the Silicon Valley veteran and one 53 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: time candidate for governor, is buying a minority stake, and 54 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Major League Soccer team f see Cincinnati guys. You broke 55 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: this story this week. So phillis in on the details. Well, 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: Meg has been trying for some time to get into MLS. 57 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: She looked at I believe DC United, she looked at Sacramento, UM, 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: she was at Procter and Gamble for a while based 59 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, so no stranger to the city. She's taking 60 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the club. What's the valuation happen? 61 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Was like four or four D fifty million evaluation on 62 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: something right in there? Yeah, it's uh this, I mean, 63 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: she becomes possibly the highest profile female investor in in 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: MLS right now. She's not the only one, but she's 65 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: she's one of them. Um, the new St. Louis team 66 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: that will be joining in two is is majority female 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: lead as well. But I mean a good person, you know, 68 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: former Packard CEO now stuff in the NB um, certainly 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: a good person to have in your board meetings kind 70 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: of discussing things like digital strategy, etcetera. Well, I'm curious 71 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: that we haven't spoken to make yet, but I'd like 72 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: to speak to Meg about the long term plans. What 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: does the deal entail in terms of a possible path 74 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: to control? Does she want to be the controlling partner? 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: Is this a warm up to something bigger, like a 76 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: a Big three purchase in a sports league? Oftentimes people 77 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: use these as training grounds. Just what's the thought? Why soccer? 78 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: What did she like about it? And what's the future play? 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: You actually give us a break that down for us. Oftentimes, 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: once you get a proof for ownership and in one league, 81 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: that kind of eases the transition if you want to 82 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: get approval in other leagues. One people know you're interested 83 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: and to you sort of use it as a training ground. 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: You really see if it's something that interests you. Sports 85 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: is unlike anything else you've seen. Tremendously successful people in 86 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: one business go and do ownership of a sports team 87 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: and realize, whoa, this this ain't so easy. I thought 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: I'd just show up and we'd win games and everything 89 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: would be great, and that's oftentimes not not the way 90 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: it goes. So you know, it's one of the reasons 91 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: they use these LP stakes as a training ground. And 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: briefly moving on to our last topic of looks like 93 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: the Sports Investment Fund a billionaires Stephen Ross is investing 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: in the sports gambling startup Action Network. Yeah, just more proliferation, 95 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, the blurring of the lines between you know, 96 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: sports team owners and the sports gambling space. Action Network, 97 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: for those who don't know, is a digital media startup. 98 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: It's focuses entirely on gambling. It is both go back 99 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 1: and listen to the CEO on our podcast exactly. Patrick 100 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: Keene was on a couple of months ago. It focuses 101 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: on sports gambling news and then also there's a data 102 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: component where you know, you can you know, create your 103 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: own algorithms and and create your own betting strategies and formulas. Uh. 104 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: There are a number of other major league investors in 105 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: the company that the Cubs are in it. Josh Harris 106 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: and David Blitzer who owned the seventies sixers and the Devils. Uh, 107 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: they're invested as well. Just another kind of you know, 108 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: it's clear, it's becoming increasingly clear that everybody in sports 109 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: realizes there is there is money to be made here. Uh. 110 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: And one of the ways Steven Ross, the owner of 111 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, wants to do it is through action. I 112 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: was out at the potential to earlier this week, hanging 113 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: out in the William Hill Lounge one upstairs. They have 114 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: more than one partnership, but I think the key in 115 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: Jersey away still the mobile betting. Why anybody would do 116 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: this and not have mobile betting, I just don't understand. 117 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: One of the few places where the Devil's played, one 118 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: of the few arenas and stadiums where you can live 119 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: bet on your phone while the game is going on. 120 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Did you did you see people doing it? Does it 121 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: affect did you think it affected anything about the in 122 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: arena experience, good or bad? No, you wouldn't have known 123 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: that they were doing. I mean people on their phones 124 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: and arenas a common sight is who knows what they're doing? 125 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: But no, the short answers, I did not. Now let's 126 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: get to this week's interview with Mike Arrescoe, Commissioner of 127 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: the American Athletic Conference, or the a C. He has 128 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: held a position for more than seven years, during which 129 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: he's overseen a strategic reinvention of the conference. Under his leadership, 130 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: the a C has won four n C Double A 131 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: Championships and we're pleased to welcome him to the Bloomberg 132 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: Business of Sports Show. And Mike, I gotta say, your 133 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: folks who work with you are telling me that you 134 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: are a little bit peeved at the ranking system. Sounds 135 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: like it sounds like you've got some some problems with 136 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: where some of your teams are ranked. Why don't you 137 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: tell us what the problem is? I do? And um, 138 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: that is entirely accurate, Scott, and again great to be 139 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: with you and Michael and Evan. Uh Yes, I point 140 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: to what I perceive as a double standard, and this 141 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: is what I mean by that. In the past, as 142 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, and it's currently the case now, we have 143 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: had a number of two and three and even four 144 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: lost teams ranked ahead of our undefeated and one lost 145 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: teams in our conference. And the reason that supposedly this 146 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: is the case is because we um don't have quite 147 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: the strength of schedule. That's what that's what's claimed or 148 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: that our conference isn't is strong. Now, the the CFP 149 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: says they don't look at conferences per se, But how 150 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: do you determine that strength of schedule without really thinking 151 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: about the conferences? We play a brutal nonconference schedule. I mean, 152 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: there's a problem in the nomenclature. What do you say 153 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: right off the bat, you're behind the april when you 154 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: say that team is from a Power five conference. The 155 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: nomenclature itself seems like it's stacked against you exactly right. 156 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: That it's branding, you know, branding is so critical in 157 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: these matters. We can be right now, we're just about 158 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: even in the in the six computer polls with the 159 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: A C C. I mean literally we're at a low 160 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: numbers better. We're at fifty seven point eight, their fifty 161 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: six point five. I'm a Syracuse graduate, Mike Easy on 162 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: the a c C. Well, it's that's just the case. 163 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: And we've been ahead of the a c C in 164 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: the pack twelve at various times this year in those 165 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: kinds of polls. But to my point, okay, it's an 166 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: established fact. And by the way, this is all factual. 167 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: None of those things I'm talking about now have anything 168 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: to do with opinion. This is all fact. We have 169 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: been behind these two three and four lost teams because 170 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: of the so called strength of schedule. Now the shoes 171 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: on the other foot, our conference is so far superior 172 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: to the other G four it's not even close. Okay, 173 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: are our computer ranking. I'll go into a couple of 174 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: those things, But the point is, because that's the case. 175 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: My feeling is, any one lost team in our conference 176 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: should be ahead of anyone lost team in the G five. 177 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: Whether it's Boise, Appleicis, they don't care who it is. 178 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: And if we have a two lost team getting through 179 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: our rugged conference with the kind of schedules we play, 180 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: they should be ahead, just as all these two and 181 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: three lost teams have been ahead of us in the 182 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: in the in the P five, So I think there's 183 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: a double standard at work in two areas. One, on 184 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the other hand, we were not judged the same way 185 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: against the P five. I think we're just as good 186 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: as they are, but yet we still get you know, 187 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: we get put behind these two and three lost teams 188 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: pretty routinely. And now we're fighting the G five and 189 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: we see teams like Boise and appleicis State ahead of 190 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: some of our one lost teams. UH in the recent ranking. 191 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: That was certainly the case with SMU. No, I, sm 192 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: you did lose a tough game to Navy, so they'll 193 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, they're no longer a one lost team. And 194 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: here's here's here the acts that I site. They talked 195 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: about strength of schedule. I don't know what this week's 196 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: UM results are, but there's a company called Sports Sorts 197 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: Analytics which provides information about strength of schedule and the 198 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: committee uses them. By the way, the committee has a 199 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: contract with him, I believe Cincinnati, and again a lower 200 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: number is better here as well. Cincinnati strength of schedules 201 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: forty one, Navies with sixty one, Memphis seventy one, SMU 202 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: seventy three. Again, don't know what it is this week, 203 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: but it can't be any worse because they've all been 204 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: playing good games. Cincinnati just played Temple, Navy played SMU, 205 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: you know Memphis U s F and SMU obviously played Navy. Okay, 206 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Boise seven, Appalachian State, one oh two, San Diego State. 207 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: This is their own company. It's not their company, but 208 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: it's a company they deal with that provides them with 209 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: the strength of schedule statistics. In addition, we are and 210 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: this is an eye popping number, guys, I don't know 211 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: if you're aware of it. We are twenty seven and 212 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: one against opponents outside the Power Conferences, meaning the G 213 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: five and Army and b y U and you MASK 214 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: and other other people like that, including some fcs. We 215 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: are fourteen and one, fourteen and one against the so 216 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: you know, the so called G five. We are four 217 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: and oh against the Sun Belt. We are three and 218 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: o against the Mountain West. And by the way, Tulsa 219 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: is three three and eight this year. They're probably the 220 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: best three and eight team in the country. But they 221 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: beat Wyoming. They beat Wyoming, which I think has a 222 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: winning record in the Mountain West. In addition, they went 223 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: out and beat San Jose State thirty four to sixteen. 224 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: That is the same San Jose State team that had 225 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: Boise on the ropes midway through the fourth quarter and 226 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: was leading. That's a lot of numbers, But that's a 227 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: lot of numbers. Let my resident number guy Eben Jumping, 228 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: give us a sense of what this means from a 229 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: business standpoint. Obviously, you want your team's higher rank, you 230 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: want more respect. How does it affect a school like 231 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: Memphis to be ranked eighteen when they're ten and one 232 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: as opposed to twelve where you may think they should be. 233 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: Give us some numbers on how this affects your schools 234 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: in your conference. Well, I think it affects our our perception. 235 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: I think it affects certainly is going to affect potentially 236 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: New Year's Day. That's why I tried to get ahead 237 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: of this. Evan, you have to be a champion of 238 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: the so called G five. It's a quirk of how 239 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: this thing was set up seven years ago. I don't 240 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: think people gave it a lot of thought for this. 241 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: Don't know there's one team from the group of five 242 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: that is guaranteed entrance into this the seven. You know, 243 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: New Year's Day is six New Year's Day area bowl games, 244 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: and that's obviously a big thing for the for your conference, 245 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: the American to land Well, I I was instrumental in 246 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: pushing for that seven years ago. But when we pushed 247 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: for it, for some reason, we said, okay, our champion. 248 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: And we didn't really think that there was no CFP 249 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: at the time ranking system. The CFP wasn't you know, 250 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: even it was barely formed, and there was no you know, 251 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: nobody knew how the whole thing was going to go, 252 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: and so we really were talking about CFP rankings at 253 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: that time. We talked about a conference champion. Now, as 254 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, you can be a non conference champion and 255 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: still be in the CFP and playing the playoff. Alabama's 256 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: done it a few times. But in our case, you 257 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: have to be a champion. So Memphis might might not 258 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: even make it. But if they do make it, it's 259 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: possible that they could beat Cincinnati, you know, or excuse me, 260 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: lose to Cincinnati, Navy losing and they beat Cincinnati the 261 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: following week, or Cincinnati beats them, and and uh, and 262 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: then Cincinnati loses the championship game and has to law 263 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: law Cincinnati loses the championship in their out, but they 264 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: could end up losing to a two lost Navy, for example. 265 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: The point is there's still a chance, a chance that 266 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: we would have a two lost champion. Now, if we 267 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: have a one lost champion, my guess is that it 268 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: will end up in the in the playoff, because that's 269 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: where we're ahead right now. But my point was this, 270 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: when that when I saw Applachan State ahead of SMU 271 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: at nine and one, you know, I was I was upset, 272 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: and I think I had a right to be upset 273 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: because again strength of schedule, you know, and and also 274 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: SMUs only lost at that time, and by the way, 275 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: losing to Navy on Senior Day. Navy has not lost 276 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: a senior Day football game in seventeen years, and I 277 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: can guarantee you they've played some pretty good teams in 278 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: that span, and they barely edged SMU in a real 279 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: classic as a thrillers fire. Any athletic director that schedules 280 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: Navy on Senior Day, well it's really a brutal thing. 281 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: That's just nobody scheduled that when I was a conference 282 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: game which just came up in the computer. But the 283 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: point is SMU had lost to Memphis on National TV 284 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: by six points. Memphis was ranked eighteenth in the country. 285 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: Appalachian State plays a much weaker schedule, a couple of 286 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: two and eight teams. You know, it's just it's not 287 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: even close. You can't compare the Sun Belt to our conference. 288 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: And they lost at home at home now, not on 289 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: the road to Georgia Southern. And yet they had the 290 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: same record as SMU, and we're ranked ahead of SMU. 291 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: And okay, they had a couple of P five wins, 292 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: but one of the teams is four and seven, it's 293 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: going to be four and eight in all likelihood. The 294 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: other team is four and six. I don't know what 295 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: it is right now. So it's not as though SMU 296 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: beat TCU on the road and that that win was 297 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: looking better and better as TCU was playing everybody as 298 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: tough as possible. Iresco, You're usually a pretty measured guy, Mike, 299 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: I like irritated Mike Arresco. Well, the point is what 300 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: the other thing I would point out is our our 301 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: P five schedule. You know, uh, we we really have 302 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: a brutal one. I mean, we played at Ohio State, 303 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: we played at Auburn when they were undefeated and in 304 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: the top ten. We played at Oklahoma when they were 305 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: undefeated in the top ten. We played Wisconsin, we played 306 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, we played at Michigan State. At the beginning 307 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: of the year, we played um, you know at Notre Dame. 308 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: You can't play a much tougher non conference schedule and 309 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: we'd have probably a dozen wins if we played some 310 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: of the teams the other conferences have played. Sing with Microresco, 311 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: the commissioner of the Athletic the American Athletic Conference, Mike, 312 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm curious how big is the is the payout that 313 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: you guys give pre each school each year? Oh, I 314 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: can't get into that, guys adequate into the financials. But 315 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: believe we are doing We're doing what we're doing competing 316 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: with the p FI. Four wins by the way, since 317 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, uh, you know, three huge Bowl wins 318 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: and the fourth we were right there with l s U. 319 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: We do that with let's put it this way, a 320 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: fraction of the money that they make from TV. And 321 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: how do you how do you go about closing that 322 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: if you're saying it's a fraction. And I believe the 323 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: new the new deal, our new TV DEALN deal twelve years, right, Yeah, 324 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: and you know you've heard the number. Everybody knows the number. 325 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: I can't repeat it because we don't we don't release it, 326 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: but everybody knows it. Um, that's gonna help us enormously. 327 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: It's going to give our it's gonna, you know, generate 328 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, probably four and a half five times as 329 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: much revenue long term, uh as we're making now in 330 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: terms of TV. And that's gonna help a lot. Now, 331 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: we're still not going to be making what the P 332 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: five make and and that's just the nature of the situation. 333 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: But it's going to help us retain coaches, it's going 334 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: to help us with facilities and help us with recruiting budgets. 335 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: So we've been doing it on a on a shoe 336 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: string remarkably well because we have great administrators who hired 337 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: really good coaches, and because our TV deal provided the 338 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: exposure which really built the brands of our teams. And 339 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: once you start doing that, success breeds success. And the 340 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: number that you're talking about, which you said you can't say, 341 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: but I believe the report of number was a billion 342 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: dollars over twelve years that was reported when when you 343 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: talk about you know, all your complaint right now about 344 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: where your teams are ranked. Um, the reason why, in 345 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, the reason why you're so 346 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: upset is that better perception means that next time when 347 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to negotiate these TV deals you get you 348 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: know you can maybe you can get more money because 349 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: your teams are better ranked. Your your teams show up more. 350 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: You know that they're higher TV property. It's kind of 351 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: all connected in that way right well, to some example, 352 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about TV as much right now because 353 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: we have a long term field brand new deal that 354 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: starts next year. Although at some point you know, you 355 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: have look ins and those kinds of things, and so 356 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: you want to you want to continue to be strong, 357 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: so you know, down the road, who knows, maybe you 358 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: get together with your partner and you can do some adjustments. 359 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: So it's not as though we want to we want 360 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: to lag in any way, And you're right, this is 361 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: it's more I think the Bowl situation, there are a 362 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: couple of things guys that we're gonna need if we 363 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: want to get to the next level as a conference, 364 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: and we deserve to based on our performance. We're going 365 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: to need a contract Bowl game. And what's that means. 366 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: It means that guaranteed New Year's slot. As you know, 367 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve and the and the Big Ten have 368 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. They're automatically in it. Even if one 369 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: of their teams goes to the playoff, their second place 370 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: team goes in the same thing with the Sugar with 371 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve in the SEC, the Orange has an 372 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: a C C and then UH possibly a Big ten 373 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: or or a Notre Dame. UH. There are three games 374 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: that are are sort of open, so to speak, and 375 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: they are the Cotton, the Fiesta, and the Peach. Every 376 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: now and then they host the semifinals of the National Championship, 377 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: but when they don't, they're open, and there's a procedure 378 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: by which those are filled. One of those slots goes 379 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: to the highest rank G five champion. But there are 380 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: five of those slots that are open right now and 381 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: down the road when this thing gets renegotiated or extended, 382 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: and it will in the next few years, I imagine 383 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: we need to have a rotating UH guaranteed slot on 384 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: New Year's Day we've earned. How do you get that? 385 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: How do you convince I think we we fight internally 386 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: just you know, we got thrown out of it last 387 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: time internally. Well, we're not going to try to get 388 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: back in internal and we're going to be extremely aggressive 389 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: and and and and lobby extremely hard to get that. 390 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: And you know again we're not going to sit back, 391 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: and there's this time around, we are absolutely going to 392 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: fight tooth and nail to get it because we've earned it. 393 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: You know, we've been on New Year's Day four out 394 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: of six years. One of those years we still had 395 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: the automatic with the BCS back in third team when 396 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: UCF got in. But they have gotten in under this 397 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: system too, but it's still it's it's a crapshoot, guys. 398 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: It's it's as completely it's a dicey deal. You know, 399 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: we were not you know, there have been a couple 400 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: of years when like Western Michigan got in. We didn't 401 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: really think Western Michigan would have been undefeated in our conference. 402 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: They had a very nice team at all. But you know, 403 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: we've had a rugged conference. The same thing in two 404 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: thousand and four team when we had an outstanding Memphis 405 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: team that lost some brutal road games against u C. 406 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: L A. When they were good, not the u c 407 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: l A. Now when they're not quite as good, uh 408 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: and they lost the Old Miss in in uh in 409 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: Oxford when Old Miss had all those great players in 410 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: that era, you know, the you freeze era again. We 411 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: we absolutely have to have that and I think that 412 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: would lead to our eventually become a member of the 413 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: autonomy group, meaning you know, the group that can pass 414 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: legislation and do the different things that group is. That's 415 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: a little leesoteric for fans, you know, obviously being an 416 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: Autonomy conference, but it's really those five, you know, the 417 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: so called power five we want to be called that. 418 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: You're right, branding is critical. The branding has hurt us 419 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: in so many different ways. Look in two thousand and fifteen, 420 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: we had four teams in the top twenty five. We 421 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: had three undefeated teams. We were beating Penn State by 422 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: seventeen points. Temple did almost beat Notre Dame, Memphis beat 423 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: Old Miss after they had just beaten Alabama. We had 424 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: big wins left and right. We've had those every year. 425 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: And two thousand seventeen, Memphis beat U c l A 426 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: after they had beaten A and M. We have We've 427 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: had again forty four p five wins and a lot 428 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: of them have been against good teams. We have five 429 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: top ten wins. Nobody else has that. We're the only 430 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: team that stopped Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson in the 431 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: same year. We beat both Louisville and Oklahoma and shut 432 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: down those quarterbacks. Uh. This conference has done some remarkable things, 433 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: but it still doesn't get the credit it deserves. And 434 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: that's why I sort of, you know, I really ramped 435 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: it up the last two weeks because I saw what 436 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: I perceived as a double standard regarding our conferences. That 437 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: simple You've heard of Lamar Jackson, right, yeah, just a 438 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: little man, Lamar Jackson. Houston stacked Lamar Jackson ten times 439 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: in that game back in two thousand sixteen and one 440 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: thirty six to ten. I think Louisville was ranked either 441 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: fifth or third in the country at the time. Their 442 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: only lost was a close one at Clemson. They were 443 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: utterly destroyed by Houston. Houston stop Baker Mayfield. They were 444 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: about to go ahead forty to seventeen, they fumbled the 445 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: goal line, so they only won the game thirty three. 446 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: Three dominated the game. They dominated the game. The point is, 447 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: we've had outstanding teams at Houston team in fifteen beat 448 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: Florida State by a couple of touchdowns in the Peach Bowl. 449 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: Florida State was I think eighth or ninth in the country. 450 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: Baylor was ripping through everyone in two thousand thirteen and 451 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: and uh ucf uh you know, uh fifty two points 452 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: and won the U one the Fiesta Bowl and shocked everyone. 453 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: They were the biggest BCS underdog of that era. And 454 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: so we've done it year after year after year. This 455 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: is not new. This is something that it's reached a 456 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: tipping point though, because this year, top to bottom, this 457 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: is the strongest our conference has ever been. And let 458 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: me give you just two comparisons that I think the 459 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: Committee ought to be looking at. And I, you know, 460 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: we you know, I try to get the point across 461 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: in the media because maybe you can't lobby the committee directly, 462 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: but maybe this has some listeners in Blue Bery, Business 463 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: and sports show Mike, they all listen. We know they do. Well, 464 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: let's hope they do. And let's hope that they at 465 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: least look at the methodology. Cause I don't attack the 466 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: committee personally, but if you look at d YU beat 467 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: Boise and b y U lost to US f USF 468 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: IS is not one of our top teams. But USF 469 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: actually beat b y U, and b y U not 470 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: only beat Boise, they beat Utah State forty two to fourteen. 471 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: In addition, Cincinnati went out to Marshall in one fifty 472 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: five to fourteen. It was forty five nothing at one point. 473 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: Marshall lost to Boise on the blue field fourteen seven 474 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: fourteen seven at easy. Now think about those comparisons and 475 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: you get a sense of the strength of this conference. 476 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: I said, Wyoming UH lost to to Tulsa, and I 477 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: told you about the Tulsa, San Jose State. In addition, 478 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: Navy be the Air Force again. We're undefeated pretty against 479 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: the Sun Belt and the Mountain West. We've got that 480 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: one record. I think that does stick out, you know, 481 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: in terms of the strength of this conference. If that's 482 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: the case, why aren't our one lost teams ahead of 483 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: all other one lost teams. Why wouldn't a two lost 484 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: team be ahead of any one lost team in the 485 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: other conference? Because it's done to us. Every time we 486 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: see a two, three, four lost P five team, it's 487 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: just assumed to be better. I don't think Baylor is 488 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: necessarily better than than most of our teams. I don't 489 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: necessarily think Minnesota is better than most of our teams. 490 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a There are a number of 491 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: teams that are not necessarily better. You know it's better, 492 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: you know it's better. Blue turf, Well, it's one of 493 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: the best branding tools out there. That Boys did, that 494 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: Blue Turf. It's just really good brand people. You know immediately, 495 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: so you know you're a Boys and you're playing, but 496 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: that's blue bar. Ask about the Green sports Well Broadcasting 497 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: and Green Well, let me ask the question. It's a 498 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: branding thing, no question. Let me ask a question, if 499 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: I may about You are a former TV executive. How 500 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: has that experience from your TV days carried over as 501 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: the commissioner of the A C. Well. I think it 502 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: certainly helped in the TV negotiations which were critical to 503 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: the future of our league. Obviously knowing the players, you know, 504 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: having relationships with ESPN of one of my former employers, 505 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: and also CBS, but big dealing with Burke Magnus, whom 506 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, I've known for thirty years or more. Uh, knowing, 507 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: knowing you know where the you know, where the pressure 508 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: points would be in the TV negotiations. I think that's 509 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: been obviously very critical. And tom O Jackson and I 510 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: have been in TV media for a long time time, 511 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: worked at ESPN for a number of years, and he's 512 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: been the TV guy here at the conference. Uh, in 513 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: those negotiations, you know, obviously experiences is really important, so 514 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: that that that's one area. And getting the original deal 515 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: done and getting the exposure we got for the conference 516 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: I think was probably you know, it was probably helped 517 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: by my media background. In addition, just you know, having 518 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: been in the media, you know, doing a lot of interviews, 519 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: doing doing all sorts of things. I've been able I 520 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: think to do at least brand the conference on the 521 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: P six campaign has been really important. And uh, you know, 522 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: you get a feel for this is a media driven world. 523 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: And I think being in TV all those years, but 524 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: also I dealt with the college community for all those years. 525 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: You know, I was involved in college football and basketball 526 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: and Olympic sports, involved in n c A sports, you 527 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: know obviously, uh, you know, schedule then a tournament for CBS. 528 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: Those experiences were really invaluable in terms of developing relationships, 529 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: which have really helped I think in the conference. Uh. 530 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: And again we've got a long way to go. But 531 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: those kinds of things, UH certainly helped inform my judgment 532 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: about how this conference needed to be perceived. Mike, before 533 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: we let you go, I want to ask you. I know, 534 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: for a while there were discussions about a potential group 535 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: of five playoffs, maybe within you your five leagues, you 536 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: know this year, the idea of maybe a twelve and 537 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: one Bois State playing an eleven and one Memphis. It 538 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: seems like it would be a pretty popular item for 539 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: a TV network to broadcast. Where are those discussions right now? 540 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: Do you think that is likely to happen? And are 541 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: you in favor of that or are you against it? No, 542 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: there have never been any discussions. It's just been a 543 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: media thing. We are opposed to it. We have zero interests. 544 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: We have less than zero interests. We have less than 545 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: less than zero interests. And why is that? You just 546 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: don't want to fully separate yourself from the others. I mean, 547 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: obviously you don't feel like that's warranted. But exactly, we're 548 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: moving the other direction, you know, we're moving towards the 549 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: P five. We think we're going to be a P 550 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: six eventually. They can't they can't stop us eventually, because 551 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: we've got huge schools like UCF and and USF. They're 552 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: they're building their brands. We've got big schools like Cincinnati 553 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: in East Carolina and Memphis and and uh, you know, 554 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: we've got schools and great markets like SMU and obviously 555 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: we've got Houston and all these We're going to get there. 556 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: We this is a new world. It's it's not the 557 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: world of thirty years ago. It's with with TV. The 558 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: kind of exposure we got. Memphis may have four ABC 559 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: appearances this year. Think about that, four games on ABC. 560 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: We've had our championship on ABC for five streight years. 561 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: The last thing we would ever do is move in 562 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: the opposite direction and basically brand ourselves as a separate division. 563 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: You know, we're f FBS and and everyone's FBS or 564 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: ten FBS conferences. The problem we've got is this G 565 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: five business. It's it's brutal for us because it is branding. 566 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: But the minute we we would ever agree to something 567 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: like that, then we would be a JV deal. We 568 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: would be in some kind of separate division where we 569 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: play for a separate championship. As far as I'm concerned, 570 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: down the road, look U c S should have been 571 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: should have had a shot at the national championship in 572 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen. I believe they could have won it. 573 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: You can't believe how many guys from that team are 574 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL now. Whether it's Shakim Griffin, you know, 575 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: whether it's tray Kwan Smith, whether it's Jordan Nakins. You 576 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: go up and down the list, tons of players from 577 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: that team, and they could have beaten anybody that year. 578 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: They were that good. You saw it when they beat 579 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: Auburn in the Bowl. Uh. The other thing is we've 580 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: had teams that could compete Houston. Clearly in two thousand 581 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: and sixteen, had they taken care of business in the 582 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: conference with their two huge wins over Oklahoma and louisvill 583 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: would have been knocking on the playoff door. The last 584 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: thing we would ever do in this conference is go 585 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: backwards and become you know, cemented as as some kind 586 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: of G five inferior secondary championship. Not a chance we 587 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: would ever do it. Like I'm so old, you say Houston, 588 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: I think if David Klingler, I mean that Houston's got 589 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: a great I mean if I passed in for like 590 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: six hundred yards a game. But I'm the takeaway from 591 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: me and we do this. You know, he said, they 592 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: can't stop it. So that's shot across the bow at 593 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: the sec. The big twelve, the Big ten, the A 594 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: A C is coming for you. They want the big six. 595 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: Mike Oresco, Commissioner of the American Athletic Conference, thank you 596 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: very much for taking some time. Hey, thanks Fallas, Happy 597 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to all, Happy Thanksgiving to you two s. But 598 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: Mike had a lot to say, and uh, I see 599 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: why he's he's all worked up. But his experience when 600 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: he was a big time TV executive has carried over 601 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: to the A A C. And it has helped him 602 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: out tremendously and at least trying to get you know, 603 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: the games on television. And but there's a long way 604 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: to go. If you talk to Mike bar had we 605 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: known it was going to go that way, I would 606 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: have said, let's save our number for the week, which 607 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: is still coming. For like the number of seconds between breaths. 608 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: Mike went while making a point, I mean, how many 609 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: scores and teams did he remember? The dating back a 610 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: number of years. It was pretty impressive. Temple and and 611 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: you see an encyclopedic. I think if you asked him 612 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: who did to Lane play Week fourteen in two thousand fifteen, 613 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: he would he has the commissioner. But listen, you have 614 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: to say that the A A C is going to 615 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: need that sort of push and that sort of passion 616 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: if they're really going to be considered a Power six conference. 617 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Because Layman and you asked, my friends, do you want 618 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: to see U c F play, or do you want 619 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: to see Auburn play? Or do you want to see Alabama? 620 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: Or do you want to see Arcause or whatever, They're 621 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: going to default to the power conferences and big brands 622 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: that they're familiar with they see on TV every week. 623 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: And I think we often say, you know, branding and 624 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: marketing matters in some kind of ethereal way, I think 625 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: Mike is laying out exactly why it matters in a 626 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: in a hard dollars and cents way. You know, his 627 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: conferences distribute pennies on the dollar relative to the Big 628 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: five and in his opinion, and he certainly had numbers 629 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: to back it up, at least in the on the 630 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: football side of things, the big money maker. There's not 631 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: much difference between him and some of the other power fives, 632 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: you know. So this idea of him being kind of 633 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: stuck out as being bigger and probably better on the 634 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: field than the other group of five schools, but maybe 635 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: not quite at the level of the power of five. 636 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: That's been a real detriment to his college, his his schools, 637 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: and his conference. I want to see if they get 638 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: that guarantee. We need that guarantee on New Year'sday. He's 639 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: clearly going to fight truth and nail for it. He 640 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: he has the information in his head already and I'm 641 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: sure written down as well to to advocate for it. Um. 642 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: But yes, I mean that would go a massive, massive 643 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: way for them. It's just a matter of can he 644 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: be persuasive and to make that happen. Marcos, you don't 645 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: want to feels better to be number one than number five. 646 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: I'll wear a number because of Mike. We have a 647 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: chance to go for three in a row. Good numbers 648 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: in a good time. And I first started wearing the number, 649 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: I would just happy. In Floomberg Business of Sports, the 650 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: number of the week, Number of the week, eight, Alexetkin 651 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: very good. But the great eight. You say, hey, in 652 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: my household, you say it. It's Alex. It's Mark burn 653 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: now in my household. Yeah, is that high for number 654 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: of wins in the season eight? And it's the jersey 655 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: of a quarterback who very likely will be the m 656 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: v P of the Year in the NFL, Lamar Jackson. 657 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Arresco named it, you know, named Lamar 658 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: Jackson in the interview. But who saw this guy? I 659 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: don't know. Did you see it coming in? Houston? May 660 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: have been the last team to slow him down exactly. 661 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, wow, And you just sort of look at 662 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: players who have the ability now to connect with fans, 663 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: and he's got this magnanimous smile, and he's got this 664 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: exciting Michael Vick running game, but he could also sit 665 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: there and throw from the pocket. You sort of wonder 666 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: how everybody's in the league in particular, is gonna push 667 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: this kid and see if he can indeed become sort 668 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: of a new face of the league. I saw this 669 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: stat which blew my mind from Pro Football Talk recently 670 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: in the game against the Rams Monday night, when when 671 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: when the Ravens blew out the Rams, Lamar Jackson already 672 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: moved into the top fifty and all time rushing yards 673 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: for a quarterback because he's his eighteenth start and he's 674 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: twenty two years old and he's already in the top five. 675 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: While we're talking, can you be fast enough on the 676 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: Google machine to give me Fran Tarkington? Where is here? 677 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: How many yards rushing does Frand do you even know 678 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: who Fran Tarkington is? Yeah? Oh yes, yeah, I feel 679 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: better there Where where is Fran Tarkington? And rushing yards? 680 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: And where is rushing yards? Were rushing yards? He is? Oh, 681 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot three thousand, six hundred and seven four, 682 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: So Lamar Jackson right now is way below the bars, 683 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: like think, so I'll need four more games. I gotta 684 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: tell the quick story about Fran Tarking and and it 685 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: messed me up because Merlin Olsen me love it. I 686 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: love the old school. I love it. Man. It's like, 687 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: and you know, you you look at you know, you 688 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: had the TV show and you know, a little house 689 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: on Prairie, nice guy and everything, and then they play 690 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: the NFL clip. Oh yeah, he's talking about we tried 691 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: to you know, talking about talking, and we tried to 692 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: get that little whimp all over and whenever we could, 693 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not the man, I know and love 694 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: what happened. You know what we need with today's NFL stars. 695 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: We need a Cannonball Run reboot that you wouldn't watch 696 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: I would watch. I mean, and bring back some of 697 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: the you know, if you can give me some of 698 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: the folks that Terry Bradshaw, get me a Cannonball Run 699 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: reboot with today's star players. Get Jimmy Johnson and they 700 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: struck like like Frozen two. That's like, you know, taking 701 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: the box office by storm. Else has any good ideas? 702 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: There's your good idea that flicks. Anybody read Hastings. Are 703 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: you listen stening to me? You've been listening to the 704 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports. 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