1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,319 Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio 4 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: app John Cobelt Show. Yes, we are on from three 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: to six every afternoon, now back in the old time 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: slot three to six. 7 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: Conway's back in his old home six to ten. 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And we're going to release the podcast 18 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: every day at the end of the show at six 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: o'clock and then you could hear whatever it is you 20 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: wanted to hear. But you were just lost. I mean, 21 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm lost. I understand that I lost. That's 22 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: the lost leading the loss. 23 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: Here. 24 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna have more on the Ian Chaudry situation involving 25 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: this high speed rail head who got into some kind 26 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: of crazy fight with his fiance and his daughter, and 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: they don't want to release any of the audio from 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: the nine to one one call. And of course you 29 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: heard that Chaudrey is going to be taking a leave 30 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: of absence, and we talked about this earlier, but we 31 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: didn't get into the leave of absence angle enough and 32 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: so we'll get into that in the next segment. Now, 33 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, the atrocious governor who was preening and primping 34 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: in Germany. In Germany, wait till I read you this 35 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: list here. It's hard to believe he's real. I mean, 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: he's a cartoon character. Carl Rove worked as one of 37 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: George W. Bush's top advisors, but for many years now 38 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: he's been a political analyst and a columnist for the 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. And one thing about Carl Rove, he 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: knows how to get people elected. 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 2: He actually got George W. Bush elected twice. 42 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: Okay, he's got a pretty sharp eye for what wins. 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: You look at you listen to the guys who won 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: presidential elections. I like the guys who got Bill Clinton 45 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: elected and Barack Obama elected. 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: George W. 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: Bush. You may think they were good or bad or mixed, 48 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: but they won, and they both all three of them 49 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: won re election after it was clear what they were about. 50 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: So you listen to these guys. They got a sharp 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: eye on how this stuff plays with regular people. And 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't think much of Newsom. 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: He doesn't. He doesn't think much of Newsom. Not not 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 2: because he's a Democrat. 55 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: He doesn't think of much of Newsom because if you 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: objectively look at the state of California and you really 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: have to question somebody's sanity. You listen to this, all right, 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: You just listened to the next five six minutes or so, 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: and then you tell me if you'd vote for Newsom 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: as president. Karl Rove says that Newsom has the distinction 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: of being the first governor of California since it became 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: a state in eighteen fifty to see its congressional delegation shrink. 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: First, it went. 64 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: From fifty three into fifty two representatives after the twenty 65 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: twenty census. Now it's going to shrink from fifty two 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: at a forty eight after the twenty thirty census. So 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: under Newsom, five fewer congressional seats because the Census Bureau 68 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: said the state's population actually declined between twenty twenty and 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. US News and World Report has an 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: annual issue. It's called Best States, Not California. Our economy 71 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: number thirty two, Fiscal stability number forty two, growth number 72 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: forty five, employment number forty six, Opportunity dead last number fifty. 73 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: This is the last state to go to for opportunity. 74 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Remember when it used to be the best, Not that 75 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: long ago. Tax Foundation they issued the State Competitive Tax 76 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: Index found that California was ranked forty ninth for taxes 77 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: on individuals, second worst, forty sixth on sales taxes, forty 78 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: first corporate taxes. California was forty eighth Overall. Only New 79 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: York and New Jersey had work worst tax systems. 80 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: Education. 81 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: US News and World Report ranked California thirty sixth in 82 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: education from pre K to twelve, forty third on public safety. 83 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: Oh Man cost of living. 84 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: Only Hawaii has a higher cost of living, and they're 85 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: thousands of miles out in the ocean. The an organization 86 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: called the Virtual Virtual Capitalist said the average grocery cost 87 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: in California is the third most expensive, only Hawaii in 88 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: Alaska cost more. Because Hawaii and Alaska are really really 89 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: far away, and they have expensive shipping costs. So for 90 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: the lower forty eight, California most expensive for groceries. Wait, 91 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: there's more. Forbes magazine look at only mean different storces 92 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: we're using here. Forbes Magazine in September found that the 93 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: median California home cost a little over nine hundred thousand dollars, 94 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: twice the national average. National average is four hundred and 95 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: sixty two thousand. Only Hawaii again was more expensive among 96 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: the states. And so Carl Rove is wondering, exactly how's 97 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: Newsome getting elected? Because you're going to have an array 98 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: of Democratic candidates and likely a set of governors whose 99 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: states are in far better condition, and forget about running 100 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: in the against the Republican. 101 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: Really, how's he going to do this? 102 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: His brief blip of popularity among some Democrats is because 103 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: he says in something thinks about Trump. Trump's not running 104 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: for reelection, so what has he got? And in the middle, 105 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: in the middle of the gas and oil industry collapsing, 106 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: where prices have shot up forty cents in two weeks 107 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: because of his climate policies, he gets at a private 108 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: plane and flies to Germany to preach about the climate. 109 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: We're paying We're paying a dollar seventy more for a 110 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: gallon of gas than the rest of the country. We're 111 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: paying double the electricity rate because of his climate policies. 112 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: He goes to Germany to preach about the climate. And 113 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: as I told you last hour, the two researchers, Mark 114 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Joffe and Edward Ring have looked at the climate data 115 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: over the last year. 116 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 2: Nothing's changed. 117 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: Temperature hasn't changed, rainfall hasn't changed, humidity hasn't changed. Nothing changed, 118 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: same climate as you had in nineteen twenty five. So 119 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 1: the climate didn't change. The demand for gas and oil 120 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: didn't change. They're just having a hearing today's Sacramento, and 121 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: the experts were saying, yeah, eh, same demand for gas 122 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: and oil. It's just we're paying for sixty to five 123 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: dollars a gallon for the gas. Got to ship it 124 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: in from the Bahamas. He's flying on private planes to Germany. 125 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: By the way, Germany ruined their economy by switching over 126 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: to green policies. They don't know what to do now. 127 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: They did so much damage, same kind of policies that 128 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom had. They're destructive economic policies. I mean, this 129 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: is gonna be fascinating seeing him run when we come back. 130 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: Ian Schaudrey, there's something on. I smell something. My intent 131 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: is vibrating. You know what happens when my antenna vibrates. 132 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: Ian Shawdery now is to take a leave of absence 133 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: running high speed rail. That's probably a good idea. In fact, 134 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: everybody should take a leave of absence from high speed rail. 135 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: They should have taken a leave of absence seventeen years 136 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: ago and we would have said seventeen billion dollars. But 137 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the we'll go through the list of puzzles. 138 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 139 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: six forty. 140 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: We're on from three to six, Conway six to ten. 141 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: New show Monks and Merrill from noon to three, and 142 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: our podcast will be released just after six o'clock every day. 143 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Now just after six. You get the whole podcast. You 144 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: can follow us John Cobelt Radio at John Cobelt Radio 145 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: on social media and if you want to see our videos, 146 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: we put new ones out all week long. YouTube dot 147 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: com slash at John Cobelt's show. That's how you subscribe. 148 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: Go to YouTube dot com slash at John Cobelt's show. 149 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: All right, so I told jam, antenna is vibrating and 150 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: it's it's it's pointing out. 151 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: Can you move a little bit, it's very distracting. 152 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. 153 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: It's pointing to the north turned Sacramento and it's picking 154 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: up some vibes about this arrest of the High Speed 155 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Rail Authority CEO Ian Chowder. If you had told me 156 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: the head of high speed Rail was getting arrested, I'd say, finally, finally, 157 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: Then you find out he had a fight with his 158 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: fiance and his daughter and somebody called nine to one one. 159 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: Now the DA is not finally any charges and uh 160 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: you have you have Chowder's attorney trying to say this 161 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: is quote a nothing burger, but there's something there because 162 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: they don't want to release the nine one one call. 163 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: They don't want to release the disc patch call that 164 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: that the police got to go and send it. And 165 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: they showed up and they decided to arrest not only Shoudery, 166 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: but the fiancee who's forty six years old and seems 167 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: to be a Ukrainian woman named the Ludwilde. 168 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: Is that her name? 169 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 5: I can't pronounce it it's a spelling I've never seen before. 170 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: And she's actually no kidding a Ukrainian activists like she's 171 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: raising money for all the Ukrainian victims and refugees in 172 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: the war. And nobody knows what happened. There was a 173 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: seventeen year old girl involved, so well, is that a 174 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: wild card? And you may have heard he's he's taken 175 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: the leave of absence. Now, if nothing happened, if it 176 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: was just a family argument and it's a nothing burger and. 177 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: Nobody got hurt. 178 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: Why did they put him on leave? Peter Whippy, it's 179 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: his real name. We don't make anything up. Peter Whippy 180 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: is the spokeshole for the California High Speed Rail Authority. 181 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: You mean our tax money is going to pay a 182 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: spokes soul named Peter Whippy. Well, mister Whippy says, while 183 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: Chadre has informed the board that he's there's not a 184 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: he's not aware of any evidence of wrongdoing. What does 185 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: that mean? I'm not aware. 186 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 5: I'm not aware of everything you do in your private life. 187 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: Do you want to be now? 188 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: Really? 189 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: Is that some kind of a challenge? 190 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: He has voluntarily agreed to take a temporary leave. Why 191 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: i'd be saying, hey, look, I had a fight with 192 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: my fiance. 193 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, daughter went a little crazy. I came home from work. 194 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: The dame was with Gavin Newsom in wasco when they 195 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: were out there pretending that high speed Rail was on 196 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: its way any minute. 197 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: Is that day, February fourth? 198 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: He goes home and it's that night, by the way, 199 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: it's after midnight, So I thought, maybe he walked in 200 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: on a fight. 201 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: Well does any they should have walkedne to bed? 202 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: What were they all doing up at night? Yelling at 203 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: each other? And then it tumbled out into the front lawn. 204 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: And maybe that's why a neighbor called, because that's a 205 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: lot of noise at midnight. The more I read about this, 206 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: every time I read another article, the more I have 207 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: I have questions. So we want to fully review and 208 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: assess the situation. So are they going to call the 209 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: fiance and the girl? Well, then she said, so then 210 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: I went, and then she said, and then Dad came home, 211 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: and I told Dad, and Dad didn't like that. 212 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: And then. 213 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: We're taking this matter seriously, consisting with our long standing commitment. 214 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh get this one. This is again Peter Whippy, the 215 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: High Speed Rail spokesw consistent with our long standing commitment 216 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: to public responsibility. This is after seventeen billions dollars of 217 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: your tax money went down the toilet, responsibility, transparency, transparency. 218 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: Newsom is pushing a bill just in the last week 219 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: to make high speed rail financial record secret because he's 220 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: tired of getting embarrassed while he's trying to run for 221 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: president of Germany. Our lung standing commitment to public responsibility, 222 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: transparency and accountability. Nobody's been held to account at high 223 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: speed Rail, but now the CEO is being held to 224 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: account because he had a fight with his daughter and 225 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: his fiancee. Now they're holding him to account, so he suspended. 226 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't say whether it's with or without pay. Listen to this, 227 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: This is funny. The California High Speed Rail authorities work 228 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: continues without interruption. How do you interrupt something that is 229 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: not happening. It's like interrupting silence. Our priorities remain unchanged, 230 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: which is to continue looting billions of dollars from the 231 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: taxpayers and using the climate change that didn't happen as 232 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: the excuse. All right, more coming up, debor, Mark, Are. 233 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: You still vibrating in there? 234 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: I am more than vibrating right now. I know sometimes 235 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: you read stuff out loud and it just all clicks 236 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: in your head. I know there's something. Nobody would go 237 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: on a leave of absence when nothing happened. He should 238 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: be telling every by off, nothing happened, private family member, 239 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: get out of my business. We got we gotta we 240 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: got to train to build here. We got seventeen years 241 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: of no track. 242 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 243 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: six forty. 244 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, and we've had a lot of changes 245 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: this week. We have a new time slot. Our old 246 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: time slot from three to six Monday through Friday. Conway 247 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: is going to be on from six to ten again. 248 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: We've got a new show, Michael Monks and Chris Merrill 249 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: Monks and Merrill on from noon to three. So that's 250 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: all new. We're now going to release the podcast in 251 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: full right after six o'clock. Just after six o'clock, the 252 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: whole thing will get posted. Uh So that's a new 253 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: time for that, and we've got a new time for 254 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: the Moistline. The Moistline will now be Fridays at five 255 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: twenty and five fifty five twenty and five fifty And 256 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: with all the changing around, uh, you know we we 257 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: need moistline calls. You know, people are out of the 258 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: habit of calling in after hearing the show and the 259 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: new slot. So we had a holiday. People get distracted, 260 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: So focus here. Eight seven seven Moist steady six is 261 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: the moistline number. You issue all your complaints, all your 262 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: ranting and raving. We give you enough material here. I 263 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: don't know what else you want. We have content for you. 264 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: Eight seven seven Moist staighty six eight seven seven mois 265 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: staighty six, or usually talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. 266 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: And it's going to be five twenty and five point 267 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: fifty on Friday. We can do the entire show just 268 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: on fraud stories. Some days it seems as we do. 269 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: But there's help coming. There's a strike team coming to California. 270 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: A strike team is going to be touching down in 271 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: the state of California, according to the California Post. And 272 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of them. It's a scam that 273 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: I have talked about, maybe hundreds of times since twenty 274 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: twenty when they stupidly lock down the state and put 275 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: millions of people out of work during the pandemic. They 276 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: started spending billions of dollars on emergency unemployment money. They 277 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: got the federal government to finance this, and there were 278 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: no rules. You filled an application out, you got a 279 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: unlimited supply of fraudulent unemployment money, and you had frosters. 280 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: Fraudsters rip off the state of California for a minimum 281 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: of thirty two billion dollars. I've seen some estimates that 282 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: put it over fifty billion dollars. Basically, so much money 283 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: was stolen they can't count it. Most of it they'll 284 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: never get back. Eighty five percent of it was stolen 285 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: by foreign fraudsters. You remember, many prisoners applied. Somebody applied 286 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: on behalf of death row inmates. Even Scott Peterson was 287 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: getting benefits. It is one of the biggest scandals in 288 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: a just an endless litany of scandals and stupidity. Under 289 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, there really were no rules and it was 290 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: him because if you remember, people say, well, why couldn't 291 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: you cross check the database between people applying and people 292 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: on death row? And Newsom said, well, no, that would 293 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: violate the privacy of the prisoners, you know, the privacy 294 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: of their social security numbers, confidentiality seriously, So now California, well, 295 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: now US officials the Department of Labor. They're sending a 296 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: letter to the state's unemployment department. A strike team is coming. 297 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: This is what they're doing in Minnesota. According to the 298 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: Labor Secretary of the US Labor Secretary Lori Chavez, DeRemer 299 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: financial issues and potential fraud in California's unemployment insurance program 300 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: will be fully examined. The FEDS gave California, according to 301 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: the Post, nearly two hundred and ninety billion dollars in 302 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: federal money for unemployment. Two hundred and ninety billion. Well, 303 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: actually that's the total price unemployment unemployment funds as well 304 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: as everything else, and the Unemployment Department was among the 305 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: largest recipients. In twenty twenty three, state auditors issued a 306 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: report saying that the department made huge mistakes in preventing fraud, 307 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: allowed billions of dollars in unemployment payouts that were fraudulent 308 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: and again tens of bill millions of dollars, over thirty billion, 309 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: maybe fifty billion hoodos. And we'll give you a specific example. 310 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: It was the employees in the unemployment office who were 311 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: stealing the money. Because officially it's called the Employment Development Department, 312 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: but really all they had to do was hand out 313 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: unemployment checks. Regina Bryce, a former employee earlier last year, 314 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: she got sixty six months in prison because she used 315 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: their position to file eight hundred and fifty eight thousand 316 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: dollars in fraudulent unemployment claims. She's working in the office 317 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 1: and she filled out the forums to give herself eight 318 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars. Five years later they 319 00:21:52,200 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 1: caught her. Here's another example. Four siblings in Current County 320 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: had created non existent businesses that claim more than one 321 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: point one million dollars in unemployment benefits. Four siblings made 322 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: up a hall string of businesses. California still has not 323 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: paid off a twenty billion dollar federal loan. We got 324 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: twenty billion dollars from the government for unemployment insurance claims 325 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: and now businesses have to pay it back. And if 326 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: you're in a business, you know this. Employers are on 327 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: the hook for forty two dollars in payroll taxes per 328 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: employee and they have to pay this for years and years, 329 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: and the number is going to go up and up 330 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: until the debt is cleared. 331 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: So going back. 332 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: To the head of the US Department of Labor, Labor 333 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: rather Lorie Chavez Deremers. She says, immediately, we're engaging in 334 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: a specialized strike team to uncover any potential fraud or 335 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: abuse because this is federal money, and this is tax 336 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: money from everybody in the other fifty states. 337 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 3: Do you believe this? 338 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: So we are gonna get an unending stream of fraud 339 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: cases under Gavin Newsom, and the place really went to hell. 340 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: And last hour we did a fraud story. You remember 341 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: I told you never the the woman in the harm reduction. 342 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: Nine and they had the three same first names and 343 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 5: three different last names. 344 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Amy Knox was one of them. 345 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 3: She had the new boobs and the new legs and arms. 346 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: Well, she got her thighs lifted, her arm, her arms lifted. 347 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then. 348 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: Tell me it's the fat blobs that hang. 349 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 5: I believe So I've never had those things done, John, 350 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 5: believe it or not not yet? 351 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: Anyway, you don't you don't have flabby, fat arms. You're 352 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: all covered up these days. 353 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, well maybe now you know why. 354 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're cold or I mean that 355 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: you put something on your hand, it'll be you look 356 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: like you have you have a burko. 357 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: Well, then maybe you need to get me a heater 358 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: in here? 359 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: Is that all you need? 360 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: Yes, she's gone. You're not going to see her anymore. 361 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: They're out of here by noon. 362 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: What if I forget to bring it in. 363 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: You'll be you can steal her heater. So anyway, I 364 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: found another thing about this woman, Amy Knox. 365 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, she bought a Burken with our money. 366 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: Well, she she bought a lot of high end clothing. 367 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: In fact, I noticed all these women who are caught 368 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: in these scams, the stuff they buy, it's exactly the 369 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: stuff you buy or want to buy. 370 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: I want to buy it. 371 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 2: I don't. 372 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: Let's be clear, John. 373 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: But you haven't looted anything. 374 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: And I don't own a Burken, nor will I ever. 375 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: Okay, uh, I found this thing out about Amy Knox. 376 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: When she was hired, she already had a prior embezzlement 377 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: conviction on her record. She'd stolen five hundred thousand dollars 378 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: from a former employer. 379 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: And they didn't catch that. That wasn't that wasn't flagged. No, 380 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 5: they didn't do a good shock. 381 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: And she still got hired by the nonprofit. And now 382 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: with this scandal, it's down in San Diego. The nonprofit's 383 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: going out of business. But she had she already stole 384 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: a half billion dollars. 385 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: More coming up. 386 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty. 387 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: We are on from three until six now Conway starting 388 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: at six till ten every night, so we're back in order. 389 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: He's back in order. Well, he's not in order, but 390 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: we got Monks and Merrill from noon to three, so 391 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 1: it's Monks and Merril. Then Debor and I are here 392 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: from three to six, and then Conway and his crowd 393 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: after six o'clock. All right, and you can hear our podcast, 394 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show on demand. We release it shortly after 395 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: six o'clock. The whole show will be released after six. 396 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: That is the new policy. Uh oh, this just came out, 397 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: just handed to me within the last hour and a half. Finally, finally, 398 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: Gavinussen's popularity is cracking here in California. The highest disapproval 399 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: of Gavin Newsom since twenty twenty four, and he is 400 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: now underwater. As they say, he has a forty four 401 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: percent disapproval. No, he has got a forty four percent 402 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: approval rating, forty five percent disapprove. 403 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: Who the hell approves of this? What he's losing. 404 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: Is that bump that he got for insulting Trump and 405 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: now that's worn off and people are looking around, it's like, oh, 406 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: this place is even worse. And a lot of this 407 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: is his responsibility, as we point out every few minutes. Yeah, 408 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: his approval rates forty four percent disapproval at forty five, 409 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: six point increase from December. The poll asked about the 410 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: top issues facing California. Thirty seven percent said the economy. Hmm, 411 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: is that the four dollars and sixty cent gas when 412 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: the rest of the country is at two ninety. People 413 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: gonna wake up to that now. Nineteen percent said housing affordability. Yes, 414 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: housing here costs twice as much as the rest of 415 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: the country. Median house here is over nine hundred thousand. 416 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: The rest of the country, it's more like four point fifty. 417 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: All got worse under him. Fifty three percent of voters 418 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: say they've considered leaving the state over affordability. Now, where 419 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: do you think the lack of affordability comes from? If 420 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: you have the highest gas taxes in the country and 421 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: you're paying a bucks seventy more than the average, that 422 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: affects everybody's commute. Everybody's got to pay thousands of dollars 423 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: more in gas expenses. Our electricity rates are double. Everything 424 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: that's transported on trucks costs way more than any other state, 425 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: So the price of all the groceries is higher. We 426 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: have the highest inflation rate in the country. We have 427 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: the highest unemployment rate in the country, so you can't 428 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: even make money to pay for all these exorbitant prices. Finally, now, 429 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: and maybe he's attracting so much attention, embarrassing himself at 430 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: these international conferences of which he knows nothing. He is 431 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: the male version of Alexandria Ocassio Cortez. He is a 432 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: male AOC. I think we should start calling him Gavin 433 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: Ocassio Cortez. That's a mouthful, yeah, because it's the same product. 434 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's like the Ken to her Barbie, 435 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: good looking dub as a stump. So we got GOOC 436 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: and AOC. Right, Oh, that's what we'll call him. We'll 437 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: call him GOOC Gavin Ocassio Cortez. I bet you we 438 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: put their speeches side by side, you couldn't. You couldn't 439 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: tell the difference from the context. All right, we're done 440 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: for now. We'll be back tomorrow. Remember three o'clock to 441 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: six o'clock Conway every night from six to ten, podcast 442 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: being released in a few minutes for the whole show, 443 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: and we got Michael Kurser with the news live in 444 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: the Cafe twenty four hour newsroom. You've been listening to 445 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: the John Cobelt Show podcast. 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