1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: those of the authors and participants and do not necessarily 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: represent those of iHeart Media, Tenderfoot TV, or their employees. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: This series contains discussions of violence and sexual violence. Listener 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: discretion is advised. Previously, an algorithm journalist Thomas Hargrove developed 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: a computer program to try to detect serial killers. We 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: selected ten major cities that appeared to have a suspicious 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: number of algorithm identified murders, and Gary was one of 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: those ten. Hargrove reached out to police in Gary, Indiana 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: and told them about a suspicious cluster of strangulations in 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: the area, but he didn't hear back. He did, however, 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: get through to the coroner's office, which assigned one of 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: its corners assistants to look at the issue. She totally 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: bought into the idea that these could be connected murders 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: and was trying to have a conversation with the Gary 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: Police department. So what was going on in Gary, Indiana 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: And why weren't the Gary police talking to Hargrove from 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: iHeart Media and Tenderfoot TV. This is Algorithm. I'm ben Keebrick, 19 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: Gary sits on the sand dunes of Lake Michigan, just 20 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: fifteen miles southeast of downtown Chicago. Growing up in Chicago, 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: did you have any kind of sense of Gary? There's 22 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: a whole song about Gary in the musical The Music Man. Gary, Indiana. 23 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: What a wonderful name. That was quite a joke because Gary, 24 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Indiana was not an attractive place to live. The city 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: of Gary was founded by the U. S. Steel Corporation 26 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: in nineteen o six to house a massive new steel mill. 27 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Every night, this Fourth of July when the best first 28 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: go into action. And here's your action, Roman Candles launching 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: the flexness of the n G. Gary shy up like 30 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: a rocket to meet the U. S. Steel Corporation's needs. 31 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: Its population grew to over a hundred thousand people by 32 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty, and it became the second largest city in Indiana. 33 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: The steel jobs and Gary paid well and didn't require 34 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: formal education or even much English, so it became a 35 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: destination for immigrants, especially young men shrouded by smoke from 36 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: the steel mills. It gained a reputation both as a 37 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: city of industry but also a city of vice, with gambling, prostitution, 38 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: and violence. When the Great migration began. Gary Steel jobs 39 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: attracted black workers who were leaving the Jim Crow South 40 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: for better opportunities up north, and in nineteen sixty seven, 41 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: Gary became one of the nation's first cities to elect 42 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: a black mayor, Richard de Hatcher. This has been one 43 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: of the most significant campaign in the history of our city. 44 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: Marxian of years of corrupt machines us and did a 45 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: great day for the city of Garret. Gary was also 46 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: the birthplace of Michael Jackson, and the Jackson Five released 47 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: their first single, Big Boy, In on Gary's own Steel 48 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: Town Records label. But just as the U. S. Steel 49 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: Corporation created Gary seemingly overnight, the company also left the 50 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: city and alerch. It summed up well in the film 51 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: Original Gangsters. Back in the fifties, the community was supported 52 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: by the U. S. Steel Mill. It was damn hard work, 53 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: but people raised their family as well. Then, just twenty 54 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: years later, without warning, US Steel shut down the mill. First, 55 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: the workers thought it was temporary, but it wasn't. Their 56 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: savings went unemployment ran out and that has been the 57 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: inheritance of the children of Gary. Gary's story is similar 58 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: to other Respells cities, just more extreme because the whole 59 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: city was built around the steel mill, so the loss 60 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: of steel jobs destroyed the local academy. And at the 61 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: same time, many white residents fled and took their tax 62 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: base with them. The population shrunk and people abandoned their homes, 63 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: and without jobs or money to provide social services, crime grew. 64 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: Throughout the nineties, Gary often had the highest homicide rate 65 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: in the nation. And that period during the nineties when 66 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: Gary was experiencing this extremely high homicide rate, that's the 67 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: same period where Hargrove's algorithms starts detecting unsolved strangulations in Gary, 68 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: and that's probably at least part of the reason why 69 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: when Hargrove reached out to the Gary Police Department, they 70 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: didn't respond. The police already knew that Gary had too 71 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: many unsolved murders, but the department was under resourced. They 72 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: were struggling to investigate recent murders, let alone cold cases 73 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: going back more than a decade. But when Jackie, the 74 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: assistant corner, saw Hargrove's list, it didn't matter to her 75 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: how old these cases were. It was a tragedy that 76 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: they'd gone unsolved in the first place. Hello, Hi, this 77 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: is Ben, I'm the journalist that reached out to you. 78 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: Oh hi, how are you? What can I do for you? 79 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: I told Jackie that I was looking into the cold 80 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: cases from Hargrove's algorithm, and I wanted to know more 81 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: about the investigation she had done. Back in My boss 82 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: came to me with the latter at the time. He 83 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: asked me if I you know, would we didn't look 84 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: into it or whatever? And of course I will, you know, 85 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what our job was. We were supposed 86 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: to look into stuff. So uh. I started by pulling 87 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: the charts because we didn't have no computer system to 88 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: show us that her group's algorithm had identified a cluster 89 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: of fifteen strangulations that had taken place between nineteen and 90 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: two thousand seven, and all of those homicides were listed 91 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: as unsolved. I started just making a chart, you know, females, 92 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: where they were found, how they were killed. And she 93 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: looked to see what evidence had been collected. Importantly, she 94 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: wanted to know if rape kits had been performed. If so, 95 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: there might be DNA evidence that could show if cases 96 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: were linked to each other, were to other cases from 97 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: across the US. As she went through the cases, One 98 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: victim stood out to Jackie, the two thousand six murder 99 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: of S. E. Mitchell. Mitchell was an eighty four year 100 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: old woman who had been strangled and sexually assaulted right 101 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: outside her own home. You don't find that too often. 102 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: Or somebody raped and killed the Graham on their yards. 103 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: So and it reminded Jackie of two other recent murders 104 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: that had stood out to her. Both were old women 105 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: who had been sexually assaulted, it and killed near their homes. 106 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: One of these murders had taken place in Gary, and 107 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: Jackie had worked on the case personally. Another one took 108 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: place in nearby Hammond, and she'd heard about it from 109 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: a coworker. Yeah, it was pretty upsetting that day when 110 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: I had my case and then I found out somebody 111 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: else had one, you know, a town over, and then 112 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: you're like, what in the world. Jackie had already wondered 113 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: if those two cases were connected, and now with the 114 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: extra name on Hargrove's list, she was even more suspicious. 115 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I got hurt and then I got 116 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: let go. So I'm curious and no worries if this 117 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: is too personal, but what what happened? Oh, I got 118 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: hurt at work. We were carrying bodies out of a 119 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: house and the other person had dropped their end and 120 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: I hung on and it pulled my vertebrae and my 121 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: neck and busted it. I got a cadaver bone put 122 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: in and a plate, and then I couldn't go back 123 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: to work because I can't physically do the work. Yeah, 124 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: what happens to people all the time. So you know, 125 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: my idea was, you know, stay positive. You can still 126 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: help people, you know, see your grandkids more than you 127 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: ever could. But then you start to look back at 128 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: this stuff and you start to realize how people, you know, 129 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: they could use another head, you know, is that something 130 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: you're interested in, like continuing looking into this stuff? Oh well, yeah, 131 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean I would love to help people find some 132 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of comfort or closure. Working in true crime, you 133 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: hear a lot about the concept of closure. Victims relatives 134 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: sometimes express ambivalence about the idea, but Jackie is speaking 135 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: from a place of personal experience. When she was in college, 136 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: her niece disappeared. She was a Jane Doe. For a 137 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: long time, we didn't know where she was, and so, 138 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, somebody found out and worked hard enough to 139 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: let us know and she went from missing person who 140 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: identify and you know that's nice? Yeah, did they eventually 141 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: find the killer? You know, they've never arrested no one 142 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,359 Speaker 1: for her. So yeah, I twitched my college around and 143 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: and ended up getting into this. You know, I thought 144 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I could help some other family that would be great. Yeah, 145 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: so you know, you get a a reason why you 146 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: do things. I think, you know, and Jackie wonders if 147 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: there's more that needs to be done with her gross 148 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: list and with the research that she did back in 149 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: I hate to see somebody else's kids get killed when 150 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: there's ways it can possibly be stopped, you know, if 151 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: you have a pattern or something. I'm sure you know 152 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: the police know how to follow all that. So you're saying, 153 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: your boss kind of like told you to look into this. 154 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: Did you ever like go back to him, and do 155 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: you know if that ever like was given to the 156 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: police or Oh yeah, I worked. I saw the Gary 157 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: police going over it how much I detectives went over 158 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: it with me. My chart mad So they were interested 159 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: in it and they were taking it seriously. You felt, well, yeah, 160 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if you bring something to the police, they 161 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: take it serious normally. Yeah, Well, it's just because her. 162 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: Grow wasn't sure, so I think hard Grow sent them 163 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: the letter and they didn't want to get back to him. 164 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: Maybe they were given hard Grow over harder time. But 165 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: me being at the corner's office and now he's working 166 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: with them, you know, they came down to my office 167 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: more than once, I could say that, and sat down 168 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: with me with the file that I had pulled and 169 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: the chart I'd made. They did do that. The Gary 170 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: detectives did come down and and see what I had, 171 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: you know, but you know, we're not police. I can't 172 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: only do so much, and you don't know what really 173 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: happens in their departments and stuff. Jackie wasn't sure what 174 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: the detectives did with the information she'd given them, and 175 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: she'd still been doing research and pulling document mints when 176 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: she injured her back and lost her job. She doesn't 177 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: think any annelis at the coroner's office picked up the 178 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: project once she left. In October, Hargrove published his story 179 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: about the algorithm and its various findings across the nation. 180 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: The final version included only a few lines on Gary 181 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: about the letter Hardgrove sent to police, describing strangulations going 182 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: back to the nineties and how the letter had prompted 183 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: Jackie's investigation, and it seemed like that was that a 184 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: set of murders in Northwest Indiana unlikely to ever be 185 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: solved until four years later on October, when Africa Hardy 186 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: was strangled, and there's cold cases Hargrove had identified suddenly 187 00:11:52,160 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: didn't seem so cold. I want to jump away from 188 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: the algorithm for a bit here and focus on Africa 189 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: Hardy's investigation and how her case came to be linked 190 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: to a serial killer. For years, very little was known 191 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: about what happened to Africa Hardy. Police never released much 192 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: about their investigation. Do you do you know what Indiana law? 193 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: Is there any way to get a copy of records 194 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: like that? I have no idea. UM, I don't know 195 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: what the limits are for their open records law. UM 196 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: what Hammond did might be available to you if you 197 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: push for it. They don't want to talk about it either, 198 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: I assume, because they don't want to embarrass their name 199 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: bring police agency. But at the same time it might 200 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: be an open record. I don't know. You should try 201 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: and you should try to find out that would be 202 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: you'd be the first to do that. Last April through 203 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: Indiana's version of the Freedom of Information Act. I requested 204 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: all the information related to Africa's case and cases that 205 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: could be connected. For five months, my request got bounced 206 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: around between the Hammond Police and their legal department. I 207 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: was told they'd have to figure out what, if anything, 208 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: they were allowed to release. I wasn't sure if I'd 209 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: ever get these documents, so I tried to interview any 210 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: and I could who was connected to the case. I 211 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: heard stories of conspiracies and police and competence, but it 212 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: was hard to sort through what was real and what 213 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: was just a rumor, especially because some of the people 214 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: closest to the case, like the officers and the Hammond 215 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: Police Department, had been prohibited from speaking to me on 216 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: the record. Then in September, I got an email with 217 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: the ink. It was a dropbox folder with forty five 218 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: gigs worth of videos, including audio from the night Africa died. 219 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah and number one, Hey him, and it's Geary transferring 220 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: the calls. You know, the Motel sixth and female is responsible. 221 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: She thinks she did. Okay, ma'am, okay, what room are 222 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: you in, ma'am? One song one was the last time 223 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: you saw her earlier today like, well, ok I need 224 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: you to tell like like three o'clock. Okay, I need 225 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: to is there any blood or anything on her? No? 226 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: Need you know how to take your fingers and put 227 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: him on the side of her neck. I want to 228 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: know if I'm so scared to do that, I'm some scared. 229 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: On October seventem Africa Hardy's friend Shamika, had discovered Africa's 230 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: body in the bathtub of a motel six in him 231 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: in Indiana. The clock was now kicking. The first forty 232 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: eight hours following a murder are the most crucial to 233 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: solving it. Crime scene investigators found signs of a struggle. 234 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: There was a shirt button on the floor, a broken fingernail, 235 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: and a torn condom wrapper. They found blood on a 236 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: pillow case and a knit hat under the bed, and 237 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: it appeared that someone had rifled through Africa's belongings because 238 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: her wallet and I D were there, but her cell 239 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: phone was missing. Police check to see if any nearby 240 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: security cameras had captured footage of the motel parking lot 241 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: or the door outside Africa's room. They brought Shamika back 242 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: to the station and Detective Shaan Ford started interviewing her. 243 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Just after midnight, how Africa Day detective Forward and Shamika 244 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: sat at a small table in a bear window lists room. 245 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Shamika was wearing a pink sweatshirt with the hood up 246 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: and looked nervous. Shamika told police that Africa had been 247 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: working as an escort at the Motel six, and that 248 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: she'd sought out clients by posting ads on backpage dot com, 249 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: an online classifieds website that's since been shut down. I 250 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: know you've been through a hard deal tonight. Here's where 251 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: the problem was. I have to start eliminating people as 252 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: much as I put them in. So like, obviously you're 253 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: the last one to see her alive, and you're the 254 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: one to find her. Okay, you've been in our company 255 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: all day long and nobody else now because she had 256 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: contacted some guy on here and he killed her during 257 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: a date or something pretty possible. But as an investigator, 258 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: I have to remain very objective and looked at the 259 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: whole picture. Let's go through today real quick. Where did 260 00:16:54,680 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: you really up today? Yeah? Yeah, we're geting together, Yeah place? 261 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: What time? Anything? You got up late? Canons of Himika 262 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: says she dropped off Africa at the Mitel six round 263 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: two or two thirty pm. She says Africa met up 264 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: with one client in the early afternoon and another man 265 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: had called and said he was interested in meeting her. 266 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: The guy was called like he really was interesting, that 267 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: he really was come. He helped calling saying he's gonna 268 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: come for shore. You know they he really liked it 269 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: up pictures that he's not come and that you just 270 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: had to get a baby, so and so once you 271 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: get it, he'll calm. So when would you say the 272 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: first time you started calling Africa? I talked to her 273 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: two tigh coup times, just about the stuff here and there, 274 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: even before the first guy came. Um, I know right 275 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: before she had the second kind of talk maybe twice, 276 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: but it was real short being the one that came 277 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: in U five thirteen. Ok she actually called me and 278 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: told me she was like he's here, and that was 279 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: at five thirteen. Is that what you're saying that time? Okay? 280 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Did you ever hear from her again? It's hard to hear, 281 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: but Schimika said that after Africa called at five thirteen 282 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: to say the second client had arrived, Shimika didn't hear 283 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: from her again after five thirteen. How many times? Do 284 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: you think you call her? Ah? It's a Shimika was 285 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: worried about Africa, so she called up her friend ed Wardo, 286 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: and they headed to the motel. I don't even know 287 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: she's listening one. I don't want to grow, so we 288 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: kind of listen, you know, to the door and for 289 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: the kid. We didn't see anyone. It was just think 290 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: to be like I got away from the wall a 291 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: little bit and then I see her shoe on the 292 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: floor and um. We talked on the light which is 293 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: on the outside of the Bed of Tomorrow, my album. 294 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: I just flying back and he's like called plies, called 295 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: the ambulist, called belief and the end they asked me 296 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: what she um when she breathed her? Did she held 297 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: a post? Come too scared to touch a post? At 298 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: Ronald he touched it and he's like it's nothing him 299 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: had a round twelve thirty am. Another officer enters the 300 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: interrogation room. How it's detective for its boss, Captain Zeke Kinajosa. 301 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: Kinajosa sits down and shake Shamika's hand. Had you guys 302 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: ever dealt what this is gonna before? Did you see 303 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: him at all? You talked? Woman all on the phone. Okay, 304 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: what number did he call her from? What number? I 305 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: made sure I remember his number? Three? One two? What 306 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: made you remember that number? Because I always come phone 307 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: type of prosesssions with each other. Tell each other the normals, 308 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: tell each other. Makes the license place in case somebody 309 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: happen in case? Okay, what else did she say to you? 310 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: She said, he sounded like an older guy. What do 311 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: you consider over what would she consider over that? That's 312 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: important in the nineteen I'm an old man, you know. 313 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: So did she show you the number? She showed me 314 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: a text? You take the whole taste and how wars 315 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: and how much he likes her tittures and stuff like that. Okay, Kinajosa, thanks, 316 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: Shamika shuts down a note and then leaves the room. Obviously, 317 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: like we over this. There's people working on other stuff, 318 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: so we just got to get through, you know, some 319 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: of the stuff here. Now, does she have anybody that 320 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: you know that would want to hurt her or anything 321 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: like that? She was a good girl. She was a 322 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: really good cool I mean, I know it's probably hard 323 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: tool to leave because of the situation that happened, but 324 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: just feels a good heart and personal give you a 325 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: last Now, I don't know how far this is gonna 326 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: progress or how fast. I mean, if we're gonna make 327 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: an arrest tonight. I don't make an arrest tonight. Obviously, 328 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: in an investigation, we have to look at all angles, 329 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: at everything. The phone you have on you right now, 330 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: with the phone around that, do you mind if I 331 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: look in here on this phone. It's not it doesn't 332 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: not link with this. It's not not helping. But well, 333 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: I kind of need to to look. But it's up 334 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: to you. I'm not gonna force you to or anything 335 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: like that. Okay, Um, do you have any other phones 336 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: on you or anything like that? All right, As we 337 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: said here, they had nothing to do it led to 338 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: the death of your friend. No, absolutely no. Why wouldn't 339 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: able to try to hanging anybody? So no, I'm not 340 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: saying that you killed her, But I'm saying sometimes people here, 341 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: here's what I'm worried about this want this business here? 342 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: All right, Holy Bible. I was not that you make 343 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: it harm anybody I love and I love kids, I 344 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: love just taking know what I'm saying, This business here 345 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: is very bro and sometimes what we find is people 346 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: almost become like a prisoner, a slave, that this kind 347 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: of work, and there are people behind the scenes, pulling 348 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: strangers and making money. And I just want to make 349 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: sure that something didn't happen here today where your good 350 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: friend got killed. And there's a reason that maybe you're scared. 351 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: I can't tell me what append something like that. I 352 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: will tell you didn't thinking everything that I know, I 353 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: would never not tell. I want you to find this person. 354 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: So I was I'm not scared of anybody. I don't 355 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: know abody get me under hostage or controlled. So I'm 356 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: not a decommanded person. I'm want that saying I don't 357 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: about but I'm very strong man, so and I would 358 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: not let anybody scare me or do anything this devilish. 359 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: And you have no idea other than the numbers you 360 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: provided us who could have done this. Will that number 361 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: be in that phone at all? No? What makes you 362 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: uncomfortable about me having the phone because there might be 363 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: like naked pictures or something like that, or piss outfits, 364 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: ang and stuff like that. That's okay, Hey, we could 365 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: look through here together so that I'm not looking through 366 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: your stuff, you know, But where I can you know, 367 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: I actually see the call out. Captain Kinejosa opens the 368 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: door and leans his head into the room just for 369 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: one second. Detective Ford leaves the room for three minutes, 370 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: then he returns with Hinejosa. It's now almost one thirty 371 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: in the morning. All right, real quick, you said you 372 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: called nyme one one? Right? Did you one? Uh? How 373 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: many balls you find you right now? M this is 374 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: easy question. How many faults do we have on you 375 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: right now? I am our? Okay him out? Why didn't 376 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: tell us that I don't want you to know? It's 377 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: now one thirty am on the night of Africa's murder. 378 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: Her friend Shimika has just revealed to police that she's 379 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: had a second phone on her this whole time, and 380 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: it's the one with the number that they posted to 381 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: backpage dot com. Why didn't tell us that, I don't 382 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: want you to know? First out? Looking now, we are 383 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: not worried about that. No, no, no, I promise you 384 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: We're not interested about prostitution. Were interested about solving this 385 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: hot side. The whole encounter shows how difficult it is 386 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: for sex workers to report crimes to police, which then 387 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: in turn complicates trying to solve these crimes. Luckily, in 388 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: this case Detective Forward and Captain Kinahosa managed to convince 389 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: Shamika that they aren't interested in prosecuting her for facilitating 390 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: sex work, and Shamika starts to give them a more 391 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: accurate story of what really happened. She was walking. Also, 392 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: everything is that now, Okay, everything's in there, including the 393 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: number that the guy called. That's why you get the 394 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: number because you actually had the phone. The way the 395 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: system worked, Shamika talked to and booked Africa's clients. Then 396 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: she'd call Africa or text the information to Africa's personal phone. 397 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: Shamika says that when the five thirteen appointment should have 398 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: been finished, Shamika tried to get in touch with Africa 399 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: right away. I'm about al was called her phone, I 400 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: was called his phone, and then I started reading to 401 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: call the police. So I really was just trying to 402 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: tell her this so she could call me and be like, no, 403 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: everything's okay, you don't have to call the police. But 404 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: then she started texting stuff like you're scaring him. You 405 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: gotta text message from her fault saying you're scaring him. 406 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't want to do that. I 407 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: don't want to mess up business. I don't want to 408 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: get him or whatever, okay with After that, she started 409 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: taking stuff that I know she didn't text, like, she 410 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: texts something to say, I have a client's gonna be 411 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: a long date. I'll see in two hours, and I'm like, 412 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: m oh right. These texts that were coming from Africa 413 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: were a big red flag because Shamika was the one 414 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: who talked to and booked Africa's clients. But before Shamika 415 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: could get anything resolved, she says, her phone ran out 416 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: of batteries. When she got the phone charged and turned 417 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: back on, she saw that she'd received more strange messages. 418 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: But these weren't messages from Africa's phone, but from the 419 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: five thirteen client, some about at all that and I'll 420 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: be back if I cannot come back and the years 421 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: still there and LV. Shamika wasn't sure what to make 422 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: of the messages. She was terrified for Africa, but she 423 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: was also worried that if she went to the police, 424 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: she could get them both arrested for prostitution. So she 425 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: decided to check on Africa herself, and that's when she 426 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: went to the motel with Eduardo. Detective Ford starts going 427 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: through Shamika's text messages, and he gets to one that 428 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: she hadn't yet mentioned. Why don't here I want to 429 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: ask you about Here's a text from Shamika's phone to 430 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: Africa's make sure you hide your money good because the 431 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: other client is waiting outside or is referring to she 432 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: was speaking correct, well one of them though. He tells 433 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: the other clan is waiting outside. Some other guys had 434 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: text or whatever saying that he wanted her too, but 435 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: he was he was coming at the same time, and 436 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: the other guy like double bump head. Okay, so where 437 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: is his text? That we guy that was outside? Okay? 438 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: This is him saying you messed out. He's leaving. Man, 439 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: So he's there, he was there. You know who this is? No? 440 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: Oh my, I'm never to pay a pension for him. 441 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: He said he's not kind of jumping out, but he 442 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: never made his and it don't looks like That's why 443 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he did. He watched the guy leave. 444 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: It chills your friend. Oh my god. Detective Forward picks 445 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: up the phone and starts walking out the door. Do 446 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: you guys try to we we're sent on a couple 447 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: of different things, and you know that's one of them. 448 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: It was now two thirty AM, around nine hours after 449 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: Africa had been killed. Police continued working through the night, 450 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: chasing down leads using the text messages from Shamika's second 451 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: cell phone. Police requested search warrants for the five thirteen 452 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: Clients phone records. Meanwhile, other detectives poured through surveillance footage 453 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: from the motel and businesses nearby. One camera captured footage 454 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: of a man in a puffy jacket entering Africa's room 455 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: shortly after PM at five. He leaves the room and 456 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: runs out to a blue jeep. Another security camera captured 457 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: the jeep's license plate and Bureau of Motor Vehicle records 458 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: showed it was registered to a woman named Regina Beard, 459 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: who lived in Gary, Indiana. Police found that the five 460 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: thirteen clients cell phone was also registered to Regina b 461 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: Heard at the same address, twenty minutes away from the 462 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: Hammond Police station in the neighborhood on the south side 463 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: of Gary. At five PM, just twenty four hours after 464 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: Africa had been killed, detectives raced out to the address. 465 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: It was a small, one story brick house directly across 466 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: from a church and parked in front of the house 467 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: was the blue jeep they were looking for. Next time 468 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: on Algorithm, I'm not gonna lie. It was scary because 469 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: we would only be maybe floor of us in the house, 470 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: and we don't know who's in the house, so who's 471 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: in the area, and there's they like police officers, a 472 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: want of driving out. What are you trying to get 473 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: out of it? Good thing? You could be crazy, You're 474 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: could be sitting here and talking man already five a 475 00:30:54,600 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: Most Lakes Room one five shot, Conscious of your fem 476 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: bars and chowder. This episode was written and produced by 477 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: me ben Key Brick. Algorithm is executive produced by Alex Williams, 478 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: Donald Albright, and Matt Frederick. Production assistance in mixing by 479 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: Eric Quintana. The music is by Makeup and Vanity Set 480 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: and Blue Dot Sessions. Thanks to Christina Dana, Miranda Hawkins, 481 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: Jamie Albright, rema El Kaili, Trevor Young, and Josh Thane 482 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: for their help and notes, and thanks for listening. 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