1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: The following. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and the 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys. 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: This is Girls Talkboys Talk presented by Jigsaw Dating, preferred 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live from 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Christie Scales, Aisha Morrison, Nicole Hutcheson and Jess Navares. 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Welcome in Cowboys Nation to Girls Talkboys Talk 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: presented by Jig Saw, the referred dating partner of the 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys in the SMBC studio. I'm Nicole Hutcheson alongside 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 3: of Asha Morrison, Jess Navares. 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: And miss Lovely Christie Scales. It is well belated Valentine's Day. 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: How is you'll Valentine's Day? Ladies? 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 5: It's good, Charlity out for these Chocoh, you're so welcome. 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 5: You're so welcome. 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 6: Everyone and I already dipped into them. 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 5: Everyone needs a little bit of extra flowers or chocolate 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 5: or whatever candy on Valentine's Day? 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, true. 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: Did y'all have any special plans? 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: Yeah? 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 6: It was good. It was good. Matt, Well, Matt and 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 6: I went to the movies and it was fun. 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I've been married nearly thirty years, so Louis 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 5: and I went out to dinner. But when you're married 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 5: that long, you use a gift certificate? 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: True, would you do it? 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 6: I'm sorry? 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I mean meet two sister girl sor right, 31 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: we were in the same boat. But we also had 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: some good, cool things that happened. Yesterday, the Dallas Cowboys 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 3: introduced our new defensive coordinator, mister Mike Zimmer. Christy, I 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: want to, obviously, before we get to some big takeaways 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: from yesterday's press conference, you were here when Mike Zimmer 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: was a defensive coordinator for the Cowboys. 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: What was that late nineteen nineties. 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 5: Well, he started in nineteen ninety four, two thousand and six. Yeah, yeah, 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: So I've known Mike a long time. I'm interested in 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 5: y'all's first impressions because again, I've known him a long time, 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 5: and you know, the reputation is that he's kind of, 42 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 5: you know, crusty, and you know, hard nosed and things 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 5: like that, and I know that obviously it's first impressions 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 5: with the press conference or maybe what you had seen 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 5: from him on the sidelines when he was head coach 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 5: of the Vikings. But Aisha, what were your thoughts listening 47 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: to the press conference or Nicole, what were your thoughts 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 5: being there and seeing him for the first time. It 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: was pretty cool. 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: He didn't give me, like he used the word grouchy 51 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: in the press conference. He didn't give me grouchy or 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: the vibes that his reputation precedes him. And he kind 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: of touched on the way that his coaching style has 54 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: pretty much evolved the last few years. 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 4: And how it's how it's improved. And I like that. 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: I think that he had that coaching style as far 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: as like requiring discipline, and I think that'll really impact 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: this Cowboys defense for sure. 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 6: Jess, Yeah, I didn't know what to expect. I went 60 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 6: in there kind of just, you know, I wanted my 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 6: own perspective and I didn't want his reputation to kind 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 6: of impact what I was going to see. He's hilarious. 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 6: I don't know what anybody's talking about. He's so funny. 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 6: That whole press conference, he was so firm with his answers, 65 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 6: but then there were moments like when his watch went off. 66 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 6: He's so funny. That was my first impression, just media 67 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 6: to coach is he was really great with us, and 68 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 6: he was really open, really honest with his answers, and 69 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 6: he didn't have to be right. He could have gone 70 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 6: in there, had short answers, not really said much, but 71 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 6: he was very open, very honest. I always appreciate that 72 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 6: out of a coach. 73 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: And he was all smiles with McCarthy. 74 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 5: I think they're really yeah, yeah, you can see they 75 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 5: get along well and respect each other. But I've always 76 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 5: said the thing that I learned about Mike Zimmer because 77 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 5: when he arrived in nineteen ninety four, he was the 78 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 5: assistant to the assistant. So you know how you have 79 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 5: the position coaches. So at the time, Jimmy Johnson had 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 5: just left and so this is Barry Switzer's first year 81 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 5: as head coach in nineteen ninety four, but most of 82 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 5: the staff was still Jimmy's staff that had come with 83 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 5: him from Miami Hurricanes, and so Dave Campo at the 84 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: time was the defensive backs coach. So Zimmer comes on board. 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 5: He had been a college coach at Washington State, Weber State, 86 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 5: and he is the assistant to Campo. And then we 87 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 5: lose another one of our defensive coordinators. After winning the 88 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 5: Super Bowl again the following season, and Dave Campo gets 89 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 5: promoted to defensive coordinator. Mike Zimmer goes from assistant defensive 90 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 5: backs coach to defensive backs coach, and so that's when 91 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 5: it's Deon Sanders, That's when it's Darren Woodson and George 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 5: Teg and James Washington and just really great great players 93 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 5: Kevin Smith, and then Dave Campo becomes head coach in 94 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 5: two thousand. Campo was head coach for three years and 95 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 5: Zimmer gets promoted to defensive coordinator. And then after three 96 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 5: years and three straight five and eleven seasons, Campo was 97 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 5: no longer head coach. Bill Parcells came in, and I 98 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 5: think one of the greatest compliments to Mike Zimmer is 99 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 5: that Parcells came in and his background is defense. He's 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 5: a defensive guy. You know, Bell Belichick had been his 101 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 5: defensive coordinator for years in New York. And he keeps 102 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: Mike Zimmer and Parcels also keeps the four to three 103 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 5: defense for another year. Then the second year that of Parcels, 104 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 5: he decides, Okay, we're going to go with three four. 105 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 5: That was parcells background with the Giants, and he kept 106 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 5: Zimmer on and Zimmer changed had to learn going from 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 5: four to three to three four. But Zimmer was here 108 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 5: for the entire term of Parcells. And it was after 109 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 5: Bill Parcells retired after the two thousand and six season 110 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: and Wade Phillips came in as head coach. And of 111 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 5: course Wade had been a long time defensive coordator and 112 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 5: had his own defense and stuff like that. And that's 113 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 5: when Mike left, went to Atlanta for a year, Cincinnati 114 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 5: for a few years as coordinator and then ultimately head 115 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 5: coach of the Vikings. But one more when he first 116 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 5: arrived and his whole time here, man, he'd let those 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 5: dbs have it. And I learned so much about the 118 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: English language from Mike Zimmer that the same the same 119 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 5: four letter word, the one you're thinking of right now, 120 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 5: in one sentence, in one sentence on the football field 121 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 5: at practice, you can use that same four letter word 122 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 5: in one sentence as a a now, an adverb and adjective, 123 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 5: a transitive and intransitive verb. But dangling participles. He can 124 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 5: let him have it yesterday, let him have it. 125 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: How he will let his players have it. 126 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: But they always come back and say, like Xavier Rhodes, 127 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: uh they come back and say, you know, I appreciate you. 128 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 4: For staying on me. 129 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: So I think that'll be a good thing for a 130 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: lot of these guys in that defensive room. When you 131 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: talk about the players though, that he's developed and how 132 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: to hand in being some of the greats, how do 133 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: you feel like he can. 134 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: Do that for some of these guys on this Cowboys defense. 135 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 5: You still have guys that are young in their career. 136 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 5: This will be Bland's third year, but you also have 137 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 5: a nice mix of veterans. Here's the thing though, with 138 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 5: the veterans. Is Stefan Gilmour going to be back? Is 139 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis going to be back? Is jay Ron Kurse 140 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 5: going to be back? So this defensive backfield may be 141 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 5: turning younger again just out of necessity. Either the Cowboys 142 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: can't match or don't want to match what some of 143 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 5: these guys are going to command in free agency and 144 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 5: they'll have to restock through the draft or maybe sign 145 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 5: some younger free agents. 146 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I wanted to first answer the original question 147 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: I got. I was just listening to you. I was 148 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: listening to Christy story, trying to take it all in. 149 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: But uh, he's precious clearly. I mean clearly, he's just 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, so much of like football and some 151 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: of the even even just someone what you were saying 152 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: about him as a person. It just reminds me in 153 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: the being able to use that particular word in all 154 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: those different ways. I'm like, oh, that sounds like the 155 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: military to me. 156 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 5: See, I was going to ask you, it reminds me 157 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 5: of like you probably had drill sergeants that but but 158 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 5: but but later you appreciated them. 159 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 6: Oh. 160 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it's and it kind of likens to why 161 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: I've grown to be very excited about this higher because 162 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: I do think and he he's mentioned it, he mentioned 163 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: it yesterday, is that you know, great players want to 164 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: be coached, that they want to be pushed. And I 165 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: had two drill sergeants when I came into the military 166 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: that really made the most impact on me. One of them. 167 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm still stay in contact with her every day. She's 168 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: she was so influential with just the demand of being 169 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: a leader and letting me know like you can't do 170 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: certain things because people are looking to you, and just 171 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: kind of she set the standard for me. But we're 172 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: about like five six weeks in. No one that long. 173 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: It was like three weeks in rather and we had 174 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: a drill surgeon comp. I'll never forget him. His name 175 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: is Drill Sign Gross. He got as tall as me. 176 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: He was just coming back from Special Forces school. He 177 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: had just finished Special Forces. And I don't know if 178 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: y'all know. As much as it's the important folks, it's 179 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: the ones that do you know, the stuff that people 180 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: that play call of duty think they'd be doing. They're 181 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: important and their level, their standard is so different, it's 182 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: so much more heightened. And I remember she brought out 183 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: the side of me that made me be a leader. 184 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: But he pushed me in a way that I can't 185 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: really put into words. And I think he made me 186 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: understand how much of being an example, you know, meant, 187 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: but also to the demand of my physicality and what 188 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: I needed to be physically and put into my body 189 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: and structure my diet, and also to just hone into 190 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: those moments, like there's moments, even in the military, where 191 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this is a minute, this is a 192 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: time that I have to step up here to show 193 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: people around me what it looks like and set the standard. 194 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: And I think Zimmerman has zimmer has that I think 195 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: he has that ability to capture players. You listen to 196 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: all these retired players and all these these are not 197 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: just your average players. These are Hall of Fame level 198 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: players talking about the impact that he made on them. 199 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: And so even though I'm sure he's a softy y'all 200 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: like outside of this, and I'm just being straight up 201 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: with you because you gotta have a switch. And because 202 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: even he mentioned his grandkids and you can tell how 203 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: his demeanor changed and he talked about his grandkids and stuff. 204 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: I think the time that he took it, he went 205 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: to Jackson State with Dion, and I think that when 206 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: you talk about his ability to you know, you mentioned Nicole, 207 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: how much he said, Okay, I took a step back, 208 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: and I even looked at some of my style and things. 209 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: A good balance of understanding the players of today and 210 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: being honest with yourself about the fact that they're different, 211 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: and then also too maybe sprinkling in like being hisself. Still, 212 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: I think it could be healthy for this team. It 213 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: can be healthy. And when you talk about the scheme parts, 214 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: answer the next part of your question really quickly, I 215 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: think it's gonna help everybody. Because he mentioned the word 216 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: fundamentals yeah, most multiple times yesterday. And I do think 217 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: when you look at this team and especially this defense, 218 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: when they did get into trouble, when they did make mistakes, 219 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, it was because the fundamentals 220 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: were slipping and there were things. So he is also 221 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: going to make sure that everyone understands the depth of 222 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: their position. And when I say that, I mean they 223 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: understand all the ins and outs of what the position 224 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: calls for. Because he requires a lot as well. Dan 225 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: Quinn required a lot, but he requires a lot specifically 226 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: to your position because the disguises and some of the 227 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: things he does. You gotta be you gotta be heady, 228 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: and you have to be disciplined. So I'm looking forward 229 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: to him. I know that was worthy, but I was 230 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: very excited hearing him because I was like, man, I know, 231 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: he gives me that vibe. He gives me that vibe 232 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: of he's gonna make you, He's gonna push you in 233 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: a way that maybe you've never been pushed before. And 234 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: it's been good. 235 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: How much of that do you feel like we've been 236 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 3: missing from this Cowboys team? That ability not saying and 237 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: not saying that dan Quinn wasn't that guy that could 238 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: switch it up and know the difference of being a 239 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: coach and being hard nosed, But how much of that 240 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 3: do you feel like this team has just been missing that, 241 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: holding you know, guys accountable and making sure they get 242 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: the best. 243 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 7: Out of it. 244 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 4: Well. 245 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 6: I think Zimmer mentioned the word discipline multiple times within 246 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 6: his press conference. I wanted to actually go back and 247 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 6: re listen and count how many times he mentioned discipline 248 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 6: because he kept saying it. And I don't necessarily think 249 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 6: that there's been a discipline problem within this team. I 250 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 6: think this team holds himselves accountable. I think the coaching 251 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 6: staff does that. I just think at times, back to 252 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 6: Wayosha's point, it's not as consistent as it should be, right, 253 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 6: And so even at the really difficult times or even 254 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 6: when you know the game's pretty much lost, the discipline 255 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 6: was gone for them at that point, and so I 256 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 6: think somebody like Zimmer coming in can only just make 257 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 6: them better. Something I wanted to bring up to and 258 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 6: how I think he can do that is he mentioned 259 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 6: coaching players how they need to be coached, so he 260 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 6: doesn't have a one size fits all way of coaching. 261 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 6: So he has a very specific way of how he's 262 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 6: going to coach these different players. So you can't coach 263 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 6: Michah Parsons the same way you're going to coach DeMar 264 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 6: vinover Shown, who's going to come in here after a 265 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 6: year off of injury, right, Like, that's just not how 266 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: you can coach within this league, especially now with the 267 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 6: younger players and kind of the generational shift that's been 268 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 6: talked about a lot, and so I think he has 269 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 6: a good concept of that. I think Mike McCarthy has 270 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 6: a good concept of that. I think he always has. 271 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 6: So seeing them work together and really cohesively is something 272 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 6: I'm excited to see from both Mike and Mike. 273 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm also excited to see what kind 274 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: of impact this makes on Dak too. I was listening 275 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: to not listening, reading what Tony Romo had said about 276 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: just talking about Dan Quinn and how he benefited of 277 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: just knowing how to attack certain defenses. 278 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 4: And when you get a. 279 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: Defensive mind like Mike Zimmer, it'll just be interesting to 280 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: see how he kind of helps Dakh as well, because 281 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: working with Mike McCarthy and seeing what he did last year, 282 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: he even expressed like, Hey, I need you to keep 283 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: that going, you know, you had the top offense in 284 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: the NFL last year. 285 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: Just keep that going. But I don't know. 286 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: I think it'll be fun to see how Dak also 287 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: elevates his game, not that he did in this season. 288 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 5: Be across the hall kind of thing, and that's not 289 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 5: something that happens only during the bye week. Across the 290 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 5: hall meeting where the defensive coaches meet with the offensive 291 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 5: players and talk about what they see and this is 292 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 5: how we try and attack you, and you can do 293 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 5: this kind of thing. So yeah, that's going to be 294 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 5: an ongoing that's going to start in the off season 295 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 5: and be a progressive thing, particularly with the quarterback and 296 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 5: the defensive coordinator. But I'd like to add one more 297 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 5: thing about Zim, and that is that last year he 298 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: was out of the NFL, out of football, and I 299 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 5: think a lot of people thought that some fans and 300 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 5: even some media may think that he wasn't wanted for 301 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 5: a job, But there were a lot of things in 302 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 5: the personal life, and there was a personal tragedy where 303 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 5: he had lost his son. And last time I saw 304 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 5: Zim was about a year and a half ago at 305 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 5: the funeral for his son, and they were a coach 306 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 5: and family Mike's dad, a long time well regarded coach, 307 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 5: high school coach, and so Zim follows in dad's footsteps, 308 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 5: and then Adam, Mike's late son, followed in Grandpa and 309 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 5: Dad's footsteps. And I remember, of course, we were at 310 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 5: Valley Ranch at the time. And so anyway, Adam and 311 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 5: his two sisters grew up with Mike and Vicki there 312 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 5: in Collieville. And so Adam wasn't a big guy. It 313 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 5: was kind of undersized like it's dad. But he played 314 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 5: safety and ended up playing at Trinity University down in 315 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 5: San Antonio. But Adam from the time high school and college, 316 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 5: he'd be back and be summer it'd be the mini 317 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 5: camps or the off season stuff, and little Zim that's 318 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 5: what we call Adam, would be out there on the 319 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 5: field right with his dad coaching and almost almost like 320 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: not an official internship, but out there learning, learning the 321 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 5: family business. And then once he finished school, he went 322 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 5: into the NFL and was linebacker's coach, assistant linebackers coach, 323 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 5: then linebackers coach, and then eventually defensive coordinator for his 324 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 5: dad there in Minnesota. And at the funeral, all the 325 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 5: Minnesota linebackers were there, and like Harrison Smith the safety 326 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: and all the executives and coaching football operations, and his 327 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 5: final year Adham was consulting with the Bengals, and so 328 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 5: Zach the head coach and k executive for the Bengals 329 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: were there, and anyway, it was a wonderful tribute. But 330 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 5: that's one of the reasons why Mike was out of 331 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 5: football last year, dealing with, you know, a lot of 332 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 5: personal tragedy, and so he's overcome a lot in his life. 333 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 5: He had lost his wife, I think VICKI was only 334 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 5: like forty nine or fifty when she passed unexpectedly, and so, 335 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 5: you you know, things happen in life with these coaches, 336 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 5: in these players, and yet they overcome and persevere and 337 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 5: fall on you know, help get with the help of 338 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 5: the people that they brought along, and the people that 339 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 5: they brought along in their careers can then come back 340 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 5: and help them when they need it. So I'm so 341 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 5: happy for Mike that he's back in this area. And 342 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 5: Corey and Markey the daughter's Markie, by the way, she 343 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 5: interned here with that Cowboys broadcasting many years ago. So 344 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 5: there have been long time ties with the Zimmer family 345 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 5: with the Cowboys, and so much respect that the Jones 346 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 5: family and everyone in football operations has for all of 347 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 5: the Zimmers, And so those of us who've been here 348 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 5: a long long time are just thrilled to have Mike back. 349 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: Well, what's the difference from Zimmer back then until now 350 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 3: that you come. 351 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: He's always been a nice guy, you know, you just 352 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 5: you know, kind of crusty, you know, back then. Yeah, 353 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 5: I mean, we've all got a few more wrinkles. That's 354 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 5: really the only difference. No, But I think that when 355 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 5: you're the head coach, as he was for all those 356 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 5: years with Vikings, and you have to deal with the 357 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: media and just deal with all of the logistics and 358 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 5: be the face of the organization, you know, he'll probably 359 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 5: have a lot better relationship or closer relationship with me, 360 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 5: just because he's used to dealing with all of that, 361 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 5: and so I think that he'll be closer, not that 362 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 5: I don't know if the word more accessible, but you know, 363 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 5: until you have to deal with it at that level, 364 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 5: you know, now you kind of get how it works 365 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 5: in the back and forth. And there's so many more 366 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 5: media demands now than when he was here the first time, 367 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 5: that you know, I think it'll be fine and more 368 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 5: people will be able to see that side of Mike, 369 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 5: the whole person, and you know, just learning how he 370 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 5: sees the defense and the way that he talks about 371 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 5: the players and stuff. So I'm happy about it. 372 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 373 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 6: I also liked that he mentioned he always hoped he 374 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 6: would be able to come back and be back in Dallas. 375 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 6: And I think, you know, when you have a guy 376 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 6: like that who he said I wanted to be here 377 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 6: because they even asked, you know, did you hear Rex 378 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 6: Ryan's comments? And it's like, I hear a lot of 379 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 6: Rex Ryan's comments. 380 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 5: That was fun. 381 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's very good at making light out of those 382 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 6: kind of questions, right, it said what it needed to say. 383 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 384 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 6: But I also really liked how he said because the 385 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 6: question following was, well, you know, what was the process 386 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 6: of getting hired. There was a couple of days to land. 387 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 6: He said, I was sick in bed. There was no 388 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 6: question of whether I wanted to be here or not. 389 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 6: There was really no negotiating, there was no back and forth. 390 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 6: I was sick in bed. And so it's real funny 391 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 6: just the reminder of him talking about that story. Kind 392 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 6: of the narratives that build up when we don't actually 393 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 6: always know what's going on behind closed doors. 394 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 5: Nobody and the Joneses were in Vegas right for Super. 395 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 6: Bowl, and he again, I just and to your point, 396 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 6: Christy about getting closer to media and talking to media. 397 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 6: I really appreciate somebody who's open and honest about those 398 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 6: kind of things, because they don't always have to be right. 399 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 6: He could have just left it a mystery and said, oh, well, 400 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 6: it happened when it happened, or you know, some kind 401 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 6: of stereotypical answer, but he was like, Nope, there's no 402 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 6: secrets to hide. 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I'm sorry 435 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: switching gears though. 436 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 3: Talking about Mike Zimmer, he's got some some pieces that 437 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: he has to. 438 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 6: Mix the whole place. Figure out Zimmer if you will. 439 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Is that wow? 440 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 4: Seriously? 441 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: The fact that why is he know your foolish at 442 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: this point? 443 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 6: That wasn't just the start, but he also knew was 444 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 6: a Taylor Swift reference. 445 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: So like, I feel like he just knew you and 446 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 3: new set and said, this is Taylor. 447 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: Swift, must be stopped. 448 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 6: You know. I made a whole little remix in my head. 449 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: I put on the song. 450 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 6: I made a whole little remix in my head about 451 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 6: the Cowboys defense and Mike Zimmer. So that's what I 452 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 6: do in my spare time case. 453 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 4: What are some other ones that you have? 454 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 6: They missed d Q, but they miss Sparkling. 455 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: You know what? 456 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 6: All right this time, but they missed I miss you, 457 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 6: but I miss sparkling. 458 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 5: So you know, and you sprimed with d Q. 459 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 6: I get it. 460 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 5: Thank you getting I like it. 461 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: Christie. 462 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 6: I'm glad you appreciated other people in the room so much. 463 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: She's over here. 464 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: Oh but no, ladies switching gears. Something that kind of 465 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: caught my eye this morning. Shout out to Brandon I 466 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 3: think he actually posted this. He Uh, Mike Zimmer was 467 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: touching on the impact and what he loves about Stefan Gilmour. 468 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: And that was last year when the Dallas Cowboys acquired 469 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: Gilboard to this defense. 470 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 4: Can you go ahead and play that Jesse Jesse. 471 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 5: Gilmore going from the Colts to the Cowboys. 472 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: Uh, to partner up now with Trayvon Diggs, who's been 473 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: one of the more exciting. 474 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 8: Players I think both ways. 475 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 4: In the NFL since he since he hit the bricks. 476 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 9: Well, you know the thing is, you know I worked 477 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 9: out Gilmore or I went to the workout when he 478 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 9: was come out of South Carolina. I loved him. You know, 479 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 9: he's long, good in and out of breaks. 480 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 5: Uh. 481 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 9: You know, he's been the I think three times All 482 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 9: Pro or something like that. So I liked him a 483 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 9: lot anyway, and he's he's got great acceleration. He's a tough, 484 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 9: competitive guy, very good to get in the press, you know. 485 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 9: And then you look at at Diggs and dig Diggs 486 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 9: has probably the best hands of any corner out there. 487 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 9: He catches everything that's why he gets a lot a 488 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 9: lot of interceptions. I know that he doesn't play with all. 489 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 9: I mean, his technique is hit and miss. Sometimes he's 490 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 9: a little bit of a river bowl gambler. And again 491 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 9: I do think he's good in the press when he 492 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 9: wants to get up there and press. Sometimes he lines 493 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 9: up five yards off and kind of side shuffles, and 494 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 9: you know he'll get beat on some double moves. So 495 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 9: you know, I do think if he would get a 496 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 9: little bit more discipline in his techniques and things like that, 497 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 9: he may not have as many interceptions, but he deny 498 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 9: a lot more players from getting the ball, and he 499 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 9: would give up less plays. 500 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: Obviously that weren't discipline there from Zimmer again last year and. 501 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 4: Certainly working with Stefan. 502 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: If, of course, he brings back Steffan this year, could 503 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: really take his game to new heights. What impact if 504 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: Zimmer were to bring back Stefan would that make on 505 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: this defense? 506 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, it does not Zimmer bringing back Stefan. 507 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 5: Jerry Jones is the cap number. So I think it's 508 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 5: really more of the open market that it's going to 509 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 5: determine this. So last year Stefan counted nine point nine 510 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 5: to two million against the cap. I'm not going to 511 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: go by bass salary. I'm saying what's account against the cap. 512 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 5: So he was nine point nine to two million. That 513 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 5: was the fifth highest cap number of the Cowboys. The 514 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 5: only players that counted more were Dak d Law, Zach Martin, 515 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 5: and Tony Pollard. You look to the coming season and 516 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 5: they're of the top sixty contracts. So these are players 517 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 5: that are under contract. He would be nine if you 518 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 5: brought if you were able to bring him back at 519 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 5: the same number at two, at nine point nine two, 520 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 5: he would be the ninth highest paid player. Because what's 521 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 5: going to happen is Trayvon's number goes up markedly this year. 522 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 5: He's going to count fifteen point three uh, and then 523 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 5: Donovan Wilson is slated at seven point four. So there's 524 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 5: a couple of players in the secondary that are pretty high. 525 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 5: So can you do fifteen point three million and then 526 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 5: add another, let's say ten million for two of your cornerbacks? Well, 527 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 5: sure you can, but will you because how are you 528 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 5: going to be able to allocate everything? And honestly, until 529 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 5: they decide, and maybe they've made the decision and they're 530 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 5: working on the negotiations on the structure. But with dak 531 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: At over fifty nine million dollars, until you know how 532 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 5: that's going to happen, that's the first domino that has 533 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 5: to fall, and what resources do we have to allocate 534 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 5: to everyone else? So I know that Zim would love 535 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 5: to have Gilmore back. All of us would love to 536 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 5: have Gillmore back. I just don't know if it's going 537 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 5: to be financially possible. 538 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 4: Would that mean he would just have to take less 539 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 4: money stuff on? 540 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, And it depends on how other teams see him. 541 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 5: If you know, will they offer him the nine point 542 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: nine or even more so interesting. 543 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 6: Also into account the film that he's put on from 544 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 6: this season alone, because he had to be that guy 545 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 6: after Trey was out what week three, he had to 546 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 6: step up and be that guy. He had to be ready, 547 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 6: and he was when he came in here. He was 548 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 6: a plug and play guy. But to come in here 549 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 6: thinking you had tray Von on the other side, Trey's 550 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 6: not in anymore, and you have to really be the 551 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 6: older guy in that room. Because Jordan Lewis was still 552 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 6: coming back from his injury, he was still rehabbing a 553 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 6: little bit. You were that guy. So I would not 554 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 6: be surprised if other teams had interest in him, because 555 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 6: why wouldn't they. He had a phenomenal season. The only 556 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 6: thing is now that shoulder injury posts surgery to kind 557 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 6: of see how he heals up. But other than that, 558 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, other teams would be foolish not to 559 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 6: at least try to acquire and see if they can 560 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 6: get him, because he definitely shows, he showed this season 561 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 6: he has a lot of juice left in that tank. 562 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: It would be easier to just you know, I would 563 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: assume to bring him back from a just amatic standpoint, 564 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: but also to you know, with Trayvon coming back, I'm 565 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: definitely I've definitely learned to temper expectations with players coming 566 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: back from ACLS. Not only that, like the way that 567 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: specifically the way that Trayvon plays and the fact that 568 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 1: he will, you know, drive on balls, he will you know, 569 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: take chances, he will jump routes and things like that. 570 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: You gotta be his confidence and stuff is something that's 571 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna take some time. So I do think having Stephan 572 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: here could be valuable for that reason, you know, knowing 573 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: just that you have a guy that's secure there. But 574 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: I will say this draft is heavy in corner and 575 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: there's some good corners out there, and one thing about 576 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: them is, like we talked about it earlier, is he's 577 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: He's not a just one shoe fits all like you 578 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: talked about defensive coordinator. He's gonna ask these guys to 579 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: do several different things. So it's not gonna just be zoned. 580 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's gonna be the matchup game. It's 581 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: gonna be what does this game call? What does this 582 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: matchup call for? And so I do think the IQ 583 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: from the secondary and how they process, how the communicate 584 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: is going to be important as well. I do think 585 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Stefane fits that, but I think there's a lot of 586 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: guys in this draft that I didn't think could do that. 587 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, one thing Zim has done historically, and you look 588 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 5: at who was one of his main guys in Minnesota 589 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 5: and now it was Terence Newman, who was an two 590 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 5: thousand and three first round draft pick. Here. This was 591 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 5: parcelsbury first year and Newman was the first round pick 592 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 5: for the Cowboys, and he kept him with him. Zimmer 593 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 5: kept Newman with him, and Newman played a long, long, long, long, 594 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 5: long long long time in the league, and he was 595 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 5: one of those reliable veterans. So Zimmer does like to 596 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 5: rely on guys that he knows. But the other factor 597 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 5: here is at five point nine million dollars for his 598 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 5: contract last year, Jordan Lewis, and I think Jordan Lewis 599 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 5: is one of the unsung heroes of the Cowboys defense. 600 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 5: And the ability to play the slot. You know, if 601 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 5: you're that's so different playing inside and outside, and you know, 602 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 5: drawn Bland, you could if you have someone, Yeah, keep 603 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 5: Trayvon obviously it's going to stay outside, becomes back healthy, 604 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 5: but Bland you could move inside. Whether you keep Gilmore, 605 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 5: as I used to said, you know, draft a younger guy, 606 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 5: it's more important. 607 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 6: Well no, no, we're just on the topic of younger 608 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 6: guys and I wanted to open up for discussion. I'd 609 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 6: be interested to see how Zim could help develop a 610 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 6: guy like Eric Scott junior, who you didn't get to see. 611 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 6: He wasn't active for any games uh this season. Who 612 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 6: you know, it's it's not necessarily a bad thing to 613 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 6: take the first year to relearn the language of an 614 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 6: NFL team and understand how different college is from NFL. 615 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 6: I mean, we saw it with Jalen Tolbert from you know, 616 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 6: his rookie season to last year. The difference that the 617 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 6: work he put in his note making, his studying paid 618 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 6: dividends for him to get more of a role on 619 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 6: the offense. So the other side of the ball, I'm 620 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 6: interested to see how somebody like Zimmer can come in 621 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 6: and help a guy like Eric Scott junior who didn't 622 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 6: necessarily have that opportunity last year, but now Zim can 623 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 6: come in and really have an exponential impact on a growth. 624 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: Growth for somebody like that, you just can get on 625 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: the field. I mean, when you have a Stefan Gilmour 626 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: and Aran is leading the league and interceptions, pick sixes 627 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: and stuff, it is difficult to get on the field. Christy, 628 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: you brought up Jordan Lewis. I think it's I think 629 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: that the conversation is going to come down to which 630 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: one of those guys it is, which which one is 631 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: the most valued in that spot and stuff. And because 632 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: to your point, the nickel position is so different and 633 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: it's it's so much more valuable to me at this 634 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: point in this game, the way the games play right now, 635 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: having a good boundary corners is fine. It's good, like 636 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: you want to mediate the big play, but the way 637 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: that you can attack the middle of the field if 638 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: you don't, if the other team doesn't have a serviceable 639 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: nickel corner is it's it's a huge deal in this 640 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: in this the way people play offense now, So I'm 641 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna have me. I am preparing myself for us 642 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: to not see some of our our favorite What about. 643 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 5: Jay Ron because the way that dan Quinn utilized him, 644 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 5: Jayron cursed safety and so you know down in the box, 645 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 5: matching up with tight ends and the like, his versatility, 646 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 5: the size, and dan Quinn I thought did a great 647 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 5: job of utilizing him in creative ways. But he might 648 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: command some money in the free agency. 649 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 4: So I don't I don't think he's I don't think 650 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 4: he's staying well. 651 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: No, I think that. I just think, well, I'm gonna 652 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: be straight up with you. I mean, the film is 653 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: the film, and the film wasn't that great from jay 654 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: Ron curse this year, whether it was health decize, yeah, 655 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: whether it was health a side or if there were 656 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: some things that he was dealing with. I do think 657 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: he did play his best football with dan Quinn. 658 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 5: At the previous year. 659 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: He was fantastic, But I mean people attack the middle 660 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: of this field intentionally and with ease at times. And 661 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: so also too with zimmern system. The Nickel will be there, 662 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: but there'll be some dime, there'll be some other things, 663 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: but those things will be very situational to me. I 664 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: don't know, Zim's not like he's multiple in his defenses. 665 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,479 Speaker 1: And so whereas a guy like a jay Ron Curse 666 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: would be on the field a lot before because of 667 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: how much you know the Cowboys were and Nickel, there 668 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: are some guys that I do think are going to 669 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: take some steps back snaps wise, or may not even 670 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: be on this roster because of the lack of usage, 671 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: like what dan Quinn did with the big with Diamond 672 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: Nickel is it's not it's not I'm not gonna say 673 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: it's normal. It's it's people do it in the league 674 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: like it's don't get me wrong, but how consistent he 675 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: was with it is not normal. So uh yeah, with 676 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: jay Ron, I I think he'll see Marqui Spell go 677 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: back to safety. 678 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 4: Yeah. 679 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because because the linebacker corp is going to 680 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 5: look very different. 681 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're gonna have because you're gonna have linebackers, 682 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: but you will have But I will say, though he's 683 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: guys like Donovan Wilson. 684 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 4: Are going to be very grateful. 685 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: Yeah for a Zim, I think I do think that 686 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: the strong safety position as a whole. I think the 687 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: safety is are gonna enjoy him period and they get 688 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: to show off a little bit. 689 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 6: I also think too, back to the conversation we had 690 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 6: with him yesterday at the press conference, he talked about 691 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 6: a process and he said, I hate explaining it that way. 692 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 6: He said, but part of that process is looking at 693 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 6: the personnel and putting them where it best suits them. 694 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 6: And to me, my little light bulb went on. I 695 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 6: was like, Oh, a Marquis Spell, a Micah Parsons, you know, 696 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 6: the moving pieces that kind of had to move into 697 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 6: those retrospective positions this last season. To your point, I 698 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 6: don't think it looks the same. And for somebody like 699 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 6: jay Ron Curse, who didn't have the best year, he 700 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 6: was struggling to a healthy it's hard to say, Christy, 701 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 6: I I don't. I looking at the laundry list of 702 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 6: free agents, I don't think he will be returning. 703 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: It was important thought. I liked that the cowboy they 704 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: guaranteed his money this past year. It was late, it 705 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: was after Donna, it was after you know, the other 706 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: safeties I had got in their pay and it kind 707 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: of was a little indicator to me that, you know, 708 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: maybe they were going to be going in a different 709 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: direction going into the season. So I'm I'm yeah. 710 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 6: I'm excited to see the safety play because you talked 711 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 6: about this really all season. Where's the safeties, What are 712 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 6: the safeties doing? The safeties need to be better. I'm 713 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 6: excited to see Zim come in and polish that up 714 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 6: and really just refine drop offs within this defense that 715 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 6: did cause losses, that created explosive plays against them, the 716 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 6: run defense. He wouldn't even answer questions about that yesterday 717 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 6: because he said, we haven't even started. I'm a day 718 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 6: and a half into this job, you know, and then 719 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 6: that's when he's there's a process that goes into this 720 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 6: all of this. But I really think, you know, I 721 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 6: saw a lot of back and forth from Cowboys fans, 722 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 6: and you know, understandably, so everyone's still a little bitter 723 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 6: to how the season ended. But I really do think 724 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 6: turning the page with somebody like Zim who can come 725 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 6: in here, he knows what he's doing, He has experience, 726 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 6: he understands, he has familiarity with what it is to 727 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 6: be a Cowboys coach because it's very different than being 728 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 6: a different coach in the NFL. It's very different from Minnesota. 729 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 6: His familiarity, familiarity with what comes with this job. He 730 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 6: is the guy that can really refine those drop offs 731 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 6: in this defense. 732 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 3: And when we talk about putting players in position, I'm 733 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: interested to see where he puts plays Micah. Yeah, you 734 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 3: know that was a question that was asked yesterday. What 735 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 3: are you going to do with my looking like, what 736 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 3: are you going to do with Micah? And uh, I 737 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 3: mean he mentioned that he wants to figure out what 738 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 3: Micah wants to do first. Oh yeah, He's going to 739 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 3: do that with every single player, talking about that process, 740 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 3: figure out what they where they feel best at and 741 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 3: then kind of go from there. So I think that 742 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: when you talk about this process, I think that's important. 743 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: I love that he said I'm not about to talk 744 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: to y'all about it before I talked to him about it, 745 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: and it's it's there were just so many little things 746 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: that he said in his press conference that stood out 747 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: to me, and that was one of them because player 748 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: coach confidentiality matters. I'm trying to like it matters. And 749 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: the fact that he even took a moment to say, like, hey, no. 750 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 4: I'm not setting a boundary. 751 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: It is. It's setting a boundary that's healthy. It's healthy, 752 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: it's parents. It reminds me of a parent. I'm just 753 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: being straight up with you, like, hey, hold on, I 754 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: know what. 755 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 4: You're talking about. 756 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: He did it at this parent teacher conference. 757 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 4: Let me talk to my kid. 758 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: Let me talk to my kid real quick, because I'm 759 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: gonna like, you know, I. 760 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 6: Just But also, he's so new in this job. He 761 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 6: hasn't had time to talk to Mike. 762 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure no, but I just yeah, but I just 763 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: liked the the attitude. But another thing I noticed about 764 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: him as well. And when you talk about where's he 765 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: gonna play Michael, where's he gonna do things like this? 766 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not gonna be playing linebacker more. 767 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: Second of all, I think, but he also does blitz 768 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: his update gap beyap. He's gonna have, He's gonna have, 769 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: Michae's gonna have. He should have fun with how they 770 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: do things in disguis things. But I will say also too. 771 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 6: I liked that. 772 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: There's somebody asked him a question about Micah, like and 773 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: the person was just kind of hyping up Mikey, you know, 774 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: like Michael's just an exceptional player. It's just he's like, yeah, 775 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: he's a good player. Yeah he's he's a special player. 776 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: But he didn't gush. 777 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 5: And I know it's. 778 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: Small, but it just means something to me that he 779 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: wasn't like he's like nah, but I I got a 780 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: coaching Even when he talked about Trayvon Diggs, a lot 781 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: of people were afraid to criticize some of the things 782 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: yon Dis did. He sat up there right there, and 783 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: this was over. This was not last year, because I 784 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: thought Trayvon Diggs actually refined a lot of the things 785 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: coming to this season that he mentioned. But he sat 786 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: up there said, yeah, he needs to work on this, 787 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: he needs to work on this, he needs to work 788 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: on this. And I just feel like the I'm not 789 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: trying to be your friend type situation, but I do 790 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: want to be relatable to relatable to you. I do 791 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: want you to be. 792 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 4: Able to come to me. 793 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: I kind of heard that and his responses even for 794 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: the fact they're like, yeah, some of the reporters were 795 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: asking questions about some of these players, and they were 796 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: just he was like, yeah, he's a it's a good player, 797 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: you know. You know, He's like, I gotta do my research. 798 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: I gotta do my homework. I gotta watch my tape 799 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: or I know what tape I didn't already watch, you know, 800 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: so I like that. 801 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 5: I don't know. I can tell you that the once 802 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 5: we get to the regular season, the Monday afternoon press 803 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 5: conferences are going to be different when it's the coordinate. 804 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, how's it going to be? 805 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 5: How was just you know, Quinn comes in and I 806 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 5: love Dan Quinn. I do may come in and have 807 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 5: an opening statement in this And so we did this, 808 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 5: and we got to do this better and working on that. Okay, 809 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 5: what you got for me? 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We've 845 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 4: got a couple of vacancies. 846 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 3: We've got a secondary's coach obviously filled by Joe Witt, 847 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 3: junior defensive line coach that was Aiden Dirty, and assistant 848 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 3: defensive line coach Terie Floyd. Who out there, I'm not 849 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 3: gonna look at you. 850 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 4: I don't know who out there has caught Chaw's eye 851 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 4: that could possibly fill those vacancies. 852 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 5: I really don't know. You know Patterson Andre with the Giants, 853 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 5: Andre the Giant, but the Giants denied permission. Of course, 854 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 5: Andre was here as an assistant for several years, in 855 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 5: familiarity with zimmer and so I know that there would 856 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 5: have been interests there. But the way that it works 857 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,959 Speaker 5: in the NFL is lateral moves. Yeah, if a coach 858 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 5: is under contract. The only time that you have to 859 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 5: let him out of their contract if it's basically a 860 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 5: promotion like going up to coordinator or becoming a head coach. 861 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 5: And so I think it's going to be interesting and 862 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 5: and I think that that losing coach Dirty is is 863 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 5: a big deal. I'm so happy for him to go 864 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 5: to Seattle and become a head coach, excuse me, a 865 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 5: defensive coordinator. Wonderful for him, so excited, such a good 866 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 5: coach and good person. And the way he got along 867 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 5: and motivated the defensive linemen and those guys. There was 868 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 5: a lot of versatility, you know, coaching the guys up 869 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 5: that they could play multiple positions, slide inside, go back outside. 870 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 5: Those are big shoes to fill to come in and 871 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 5: replace coach Dirty and then Joe Witt. It's not that 872 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,479 Speaker 5: I at first I was kind of surprised. It's like, man, 873 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 5: he you know, had been with Mike McCarthy back in 874 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 5: Green Bay. 875 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 8: Went. 876 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 5: But at the same time, if he didn't get defensive 877 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 5: coordinator here at this time, when's he going to get it? 878 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 5: So he had to. I think it was the right 879 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 5: thing for him career wise to move along and joined 880 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 5: dan Quinn on the staff there in Washington. But those 881 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 5: are two big losses for the Cowboys defense. 882 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 6: YEA, happy for them for sure. Time to turn page. Yeah, 883 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 6: the only one that really came to my mind, and 884 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,439 Speaker 6: because it was kind of a shocking yeah, well right, 885 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 6: but when there's talent like that that's available, you at 886 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 6: least check into it. It's up to him if he 887 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 6: wants to take kind of a emotion, if you will, 888 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 6: not being in DC and go into a positions coach. 889 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 6: But you look into that immediately. I'm I'm just saying 890 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 6: it was shocking that it happened. He's coming off of 891 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 6: a Super Bowl appearance, team obviously doing something right. You 892 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,240 Speaker 6: want to talk about talk about defeating the Shanahan Tree. 893 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 4: There you have it. 894 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 6: They held it, They. 895 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 4: Held the Chiefs and. 896 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: Then to lose a Green Law in that game. And 897 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: again listening to kind of some of the San Frank 898 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: commentary and stuff, that their run defense did take a 899 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 1: step back this year for some reason, and so people 900 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 1: were very. 901 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 5: There was no place to go but down they were. 902 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,479 Speaker 4: At the top. 903 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, like people were very upset about the latter 904 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: half of the season, the run defense not being as 905 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: good as it was before. But I say that to 906 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: say I would definitely be interested in in a Steve 907 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: Wilkes of because he has coached Prack in practice with 908 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,959 Speaker 1: your nemesis. They're the nemesis at this point for you know. 909 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 5: Hey, they're the standard. They're the standard of the NFC. 910 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 5: You were gonna have to go right now, you have 911 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 5: to go through the forty nine ers to get to 912 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 5: where you want to be. 913 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: You want to be all in. 914 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, if you want to be all in, you need 915 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 6: to take the all in approach of getting somebody who 916 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 6: knows what the conversations are on that side. 917 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 3: They finished with what number eight defense in the NFL, 918 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 3: third best since scoring defense. 919 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, but at the top end kicking butt 920 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 5: that part forget the statistic part. 921 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean I I think that that's gonna 922 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 1: be that's gonna be important looking into that. But when 923 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: you mentioned you mentioned there's the vacancies, there's some there's 924 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 1: some spots that's not vacant that that when a coach 925 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: comes in they pick and choose and if there if 926 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: now we are again you are kind of late in 927 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: the process. I'm dang it, you are kind of late 928 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: in the process. So maybe you're limited in some of 929 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: the folks that you can get, but there might be 930 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: some changes to some other positions as well. I mean 931 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: other position coaches as well, not just the ones that's vacant. 932 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, because they're married to each other. 933 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 3: So it's like, and it sounds it sounded like yesterday 934 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 3: that coach Zimmer will be keeping out here. 935 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 4: He wants to. 936 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure he wants to the opportunity to work with 937 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: Au and also to there's it's hard not to notice 938 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: around the NFL that a lot of former players are 939 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: getting hired as coaches, and it's resonating with a lot 940 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: of these as well. So I'm or coordinators rather as well. 941 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: So I think that that's a trend to continue to follow. 942 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: And and al Hairs being here and actually still being retained. 943 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: I think it's important to the team. I don't know 944 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: what the guys would feel like if they lost all 945 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: of them. It's been too much of a that would 946 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: be too that would be too much to me. 947 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 3: So all right, Well, hopefully we've got some more coaching 948 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 3: news next week. 949 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 4: That'll do it for today. 950 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 6: Girls Star Boys So presented by Jig Saw. 951 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 4: The preferred dating partner We'll see y'all next week. 952 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 2: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 953 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,280 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.