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Speaker 1: Here we go, hour two and a Tuesday, our final

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Speaker 1: regular season Herd hierarchy eighteen week seven teen games. It

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Speaker 1: all comes down to this Nick Wright around the corner.

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Speaker 1: You know, I talk about this. I think Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 1: to me, I would hire tomorrow if I was Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: if I was the New York Giants, I was the Titans.

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Speaker 2: Think about this.

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Speaker 1: The last two first round quarterbacks drafted cam Ward last year,

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Speaker 1: number one in Jackson Dart later first round. They'll both

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Speaker 1: their second year. I mean, it's just you got to

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Speaker 1: get you got to get the coach right. And in

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Speaker 1: Todd McShay reporting like you. If you're Dante Moore and

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Speaker 1: Mendoza goes number one in your number two, stay in college.

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Speaker 1: Oregon's better than the Jets, not in terms of the

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Speaker 1: on field quality of product. I mean, the Jets would

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Speaker 1: beat Oregon obviously if they played. But the coaching, uh,

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Speaker 1: and the Oregon football is like a top five job.

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Speaker 1: It's a great job, enriched, capitalized, unbelievable facilities. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're sold out every game. They treat their players, they

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Speaker 1: were way ahead of the curve. They treat their players

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Herd hierarchy, our final hierarchy of this regular season.

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy. I'm no good. The top ten NFL teams

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Speaker 2: according to College number ten, I would put Chicago.

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Speaker 1: They won the NFC North for the first time since

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. When they win the turnover battle, they win,

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Speaker 1: you can beat them. Most offensive touchdowns in Bears franchise history.

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Speaker 2: With Caleb led the NFL with eleven.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown passes twenty plus yards down the field, but they

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Speaker 2: This Packer game is a rough one.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be windy, which plays into the run

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Speaker 1: game of Chicago. Great year for the Bears. I put

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Speaker 2: Number nine.

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Speaker 1: The Niners listen brock Party in the last month one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seven passer rating. They're not as good as Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Don't punish them too much for losing to Seattle. They

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Speaker 1: lost nine of their last ten games when trailing at halftime.

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Speaker 1: Some of them is on Kyle Shanahan, who to me

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Speaker 1: has always been very tied to his script. He's not

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Speaker 1: been a great second half or come from behind coach.

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Speaker 1: But if Pearsall and Trent and Kittle are available, that

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Speaker 2: Niners at nine. Number eight.

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Speaker 1: Listen, the Bills are good. I don't think they're Super

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville shut him down and take the crowd out.

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Speaker 1: I also worry about this team because they're slow starting.

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Speaker 1: Best defense probably easy league. Give credit to Nick Cassario.

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Speaker 1: The weird Philadelphia Eagles, who are three and four over

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is held under two hundred yards passing. They're

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Speaker 2: I put them at five number four.

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Speaker 1: The Rams aren't playing great right now, three and three

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Speaker 1: We got to pay attention to Jacksonville. Okay, they're eight

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Speaker 1: They have had really good draft picks for a long time.

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Speaker 1: They've missed on the coach, but Trevor Lawrence has his

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Speaker 2: I have them at three, number two.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put New England at two because I love Vrabel.

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Speaker 1: They've won thirteen to fourteen games and they are a

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Speaker 1: great road team that matters. Mike Vrabele third coach to

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Speaker 2: How do you do that? I like everything.

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Speaker 1: I think they're GM's the best personnel guy in the league.

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Speaker 1: Rare combination of a quarterback who's highly productive on a

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Speaker 1: stacked roster. It's better than Philadelphia's. Now they're all line

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Speaker 2: My top two teams all lines.

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Speaker 1: By the way, New England and Seattle in the draft,

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Speaker 1: as my final heard hierarchy of the regular season, a

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Speaker 3: Took eighteen weeks. You finally got it right, perfect, perfect hierarchy. No,

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Speaker 3: I I appreciate the fact that you are giving the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars their respect. You mentioned the winning streak over the

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Speaker 3: nineteen touchdowns, one turnover, two hundred and ninety yards per game.

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Speaker 3: They went to Denver and bludgeoned them. They have beaten

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Speaker 3: the Texans, as you mentioned, three of their losses or

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Speaker 3: two to the Bengals with a healthy Joe Burrow, at

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Speaker 3: I because I respect what the Pats have done, and

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Speaker 3: I think Drake may is a future, if not already superstar.

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Speaker 3: But where I do think the strength of schedule stuff

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Speaker 3: Of them, which leads me to this Colin, I think

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Speaker 3: my pick for the AFC is the winner of Jags Bills.

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Speaker 3: I think the way I think if the Bills can

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Speaker 3: No disrespect to the Pats or Broncos, that's my AFC

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing about Buffalo. First of all, they're

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, when I've watched Buffalo

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Speaker 1: So here's my two worries about Buffalo. They're a slow

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Speaker 3: Agree with that, just because I don't think Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: For the most part.

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Speaker 3: I think McDermott's gotten a little tight, But I wonder

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Speaker 3: how much of that is just because of the boogeyman

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a good or a bad

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Speaker 3: say this confidently having done no research on it, but I.

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Speaker 3: that's fair. But the Bears offense against this banged up

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Speaker 3: They're at home, they are healthier, they knew that this

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Speaker 3: It's very like he was he at various points this

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Speaker 2: He's all interested in culture he can do this schemes.

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Speaker 1: So I think you're right. The Micah injury gives him

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Speaker 3: It's just interesting because it feels like the Packers have

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Speaker 2: Great see Anyboddy.

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Speaker 3: First things first, Oh yeah, great seeing you And happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna get away with that. Happy birthday.

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Speaker 3: You guys better have a great compilation of the best

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Speaker 1: It's about a thirteen second clip of my greatest moments

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Speaker 1: Olsen last hour, Yeah, And I remember having this conversation.

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Speaker 1: They're like, I like Matt Lafleur. He doesn't own the

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Speaker 1: But when you in those terms, seven seed, seven seed,

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Speaker 1: So much good going on. Greg Olsen's joining us last hour.

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Speaker 1: Always love to have Greg on the show. Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 1: apparently interviewing. Eventually Atlanta's interested, Tennessee's interested. Giants are interested.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland has seen enough of him, despite the fact he

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Speaker 1: was two time NFL Coach of the Year in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: J Mack with the news. No turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 7: Let's start with the Eagles. They are hosting the Niners

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Speaker 7: this weekend. Colin Sunday four thirty on Fox Good Game.

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Speaker 7: Nick Sirianni rested his guys in week eighteen. Yeah ahead

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Speaker 7: of this Niners matchup. Sirianni's confident Jalen hurts his experience

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Speaker 7: will carry.

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Speaker 5: Them Obviously, Jalen's a great player and has had a

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Speaker 5: lot of big game experience. You know, the amount of

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Speaker 5: big games we play on a yearly basis in our

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Speaker 5: regular seasons, you know, are huge. You know, every time

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Speaker 5: he steps out in the field, I feel like Jalen

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Speaker 5: does a great job of, you know, continuing to raise

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Speaker 5: his level of play. And so, yeah, he has a

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Speaker 5: ton of experience. And the quarterback we're playing has a

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Speaker 5: lot of experience too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well you know that my theory on four if the

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Speaker 1: line is four, four and a half or five, take

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Speaker 1: the favorite. Yeah, it's Vegas. Vegas is telling you one

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Speaker 1: team is better. Vegas would rather the number be three,

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Speaker 1: four and a half. That's that's they're telling you. Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: is going to win this game. The numbers leading me to.

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Speaker 7: This, Yeah, the numbers for Hurts say that in the

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Speaker 7: last three years. Look at those playoff numbers cone very

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Speaker 7: impressive six and two. Now, just for fun, I went

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Speaker 7: and compiled all the NFC quarterbacks and their playoff wins.

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Speaker 7: What's that matter is clutch important January football. Caleb and

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Speaker 7: Bryce Young the rookie, so they have zero. Sam Donald

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Speaker 7: Owen won in the playoffs Jordan Love one and two,

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Speaker 7: Rock Pretty four and two, Matt Stafford five and five,

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Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts, the much maligned Jalen Hurts six and three

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Speaker 7: is career in the playoffs the most experienced quarterback with

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Speaker 7: the wins.

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Speaker 4: Stafford obviously has played longer.

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Speaker 7: But con I think that's interesting that everybody's selling the

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Speaker 7: Eagles short. And as you open the show with today,

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Speaker 7: only two quarterbacks in the entire playoffs were not first

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Speaker 7: round picks, and they're meeting Sunday on Fox, Rock Perdy

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Speaker 7: and Jalen Hurts. Everyone else was a first round pick. Somehow,

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Speaker 7: Hurts was overlooked.

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Speaker 4: I like him a lot.

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Speaker 1: I like to say overlooked. He was drafted in the

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Speaker 1: second round. So was Drew Brees.

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Speaker 7: Well, remember they had Carson Wentz as their guy, and

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Speaker 7: they were like, that's a smart organization.

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Speaker 4: You say this all the.

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Speaker 1: Time about you have to see problems Howie Roseman before

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Speaker 1: they appear. Yeah, and the really smart teams in this

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Speaker 1: league are Draft Day. They're often drafting positions that they

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Speaker 1: don't have an immediate need, and it tells you they're

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Speaker 1: problem moving off a player who's not good in the room,

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Speaker 1: they don't love his agent negotiations have started.

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Speaker 2: So yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean Philadelphia does a really good job of moving

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Speaker 1: off potential problems a year early.

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Speaker 7: Really smart aj Brown in the offseason. I think he's gone.

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Speaker 7: I think they my mock draft. I think they'll get

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Speaker 7: a wide receiver in the first round. Le'll not be

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Speaker 7: surprised at all. Eagles have a great roster, like they're

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Speaker 7: almost set. Maybe you get another offensive lineman. All right,

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Speaker 7: let's move to the Rams.

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Speaker 4: Colin.

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Speaker 7: They were missing DeVante Adams for the final three games

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Speaker 7: with that hamstring.

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Speaker 4: Reportedly he could have played in Week eighteen.

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Speaker 7: They decided to sit him. All appearances are DeVante will

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Speaker 7: be good to go Saturday against the Panthers. On Fox,

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Speaker 7: McVay saying all the right things. I'm surprised this is

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Speaker 7: still ten. I can't make a case at all for Carolina.

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Speaker 7: Their best met is, Hey, we just got to run

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Speaker 7: the ball, keep Stafford and Puka and DeVante off the field. Otherwise,

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Speaker 7: this to me is an easy revenge hammer for the Ram.

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Speaker 7: Do you think the Panthers have any shot here?

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Speaker 2: Not much of one.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a benefit that Devonte's back and they

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Speaker 1: lost previously here.

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Speaker 2: It's a wake up call. I told you this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: If I have a blazing five this week, Rams at

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Speaker 1: ten's in it at ten and a half, I'd stay away.

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Speaker 1: It's the Rams have everything, They're healthy, they haven't played great,

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Speaker 1: so they're certainly urgency in the building. I do think Carolina,

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Speaker 1: you said something yesterday. If you go back to that

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Speaker 1: win over them, they really didn't. They had a couple

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Speaker 1: of big plays and Stafford was reckless.

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Speaker 4: He had a pick six that was a killer.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about them between doubtell

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young's mobility and their size on the perimeter. They

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Speaker 1: can hit for big plays against the Rams. You can't

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Speaker 1: be super aggressive against them because both their receivers can

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Speaker 1: beat you down the field and the Rams corners. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if the Rams used two picks early

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Speaker 1: on corners. So there is a vulnerability and you don't

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Speaker 1: want it closed because the Rams special teams are a liability.

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Speaker 4: So you pointed that out.

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Speaker 7: So two fourth downs, Bryce Young beat them on deep

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Speaker 7: bombs for touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: I looked it up.

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Speaker 7: You know who didn't play in that game, Quinton Lake.

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Speaker 7: You know who's back this week A great safety. Quinton

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Speaker 7: Lake he's expected to play for the Rams. Huge get back.

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Speaker 4: Oh final story, let's go to the NBA Warriors were

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Speaker 4: in action last night.

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Speaker 7: At the end of it, Doome and Steve Kerr in

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Speaker 7: a rare moment of just I don't know, losing his mind,

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Speaker 7: really lost it and was ejected.

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Speaker 4: And also the staff here really liked that.

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Speaker 7: Snoop Dog Yes the Awesome Rapper was NBC's play by

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Speaker 7: play guy and had a great time calling a highlight here.

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Speaker 2: Oh, look at Steve Kerr. He's all around here. Oh Steve,

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Speaker 2: don't get thrown out.

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Speaker 4: Get him out of the here, get him out of there.

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Speaker 5: Vacuum up, back, Um up, GP, vacuum up Steve.

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Speaker 2: Rad who's Steve Bagan Inglewood?

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 2: Ingle what getting st You and Inglewood's team, the Arizona

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Speaker 2: Wild Canton came out and.

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Speaker 4: Look games, Steve Kerr is going through it right now. Man,

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Speaker 4: this Curry.

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Speaker 7: You know they're saying all the wrong things. Your guy,

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Speaker 7: Draymond is Can I still call him your guy or

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Speaker 7: no more?

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Speaker 2: He's he's everybody's going He's.

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Speaker 4: Really on the struggle bus.

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Speaker 7: Keeps getting ejected, arguing Colin, they're not a good team

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Speaker 7: right now, Clippers are surging with Kawhi. I know nobody cares,

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Speaker 7: but I just wonder what becomes of Curry and Golden

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Speaker 7: State because Colin, we've talked about this for like a year.

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Speaker 7: At some point, do you just say, hey, we can't

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Speaker 7: build around you. Do you want to get traded? Like,

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Speaker 7: I don't know what you do because they're like a

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Speaker 7: fringe playing team right now.

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Speaker 4: That's not what we want from Korea.

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Speaker 1: It's sentimentality is a powerful thing. They should have blown

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Speaker 1: this team up after they beat the Celtics. They should

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Speaker 1: have moved players, and they couldn't. They couldn't break him up.

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Speaker 1: Why not fans get over really fast this idea, Oh,

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Speaker 1: they should have moved Clay.

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Speaker 2: They they you know. I also think they didn't do

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Speaker 2: well in the draft.

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Speaker 4: And the Kuminga Wiseman. They really didn't hit on anything.

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Speaker 1: They don't they don't work with Staff, so I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want to trade Staff.

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Speaker 2: He's still the best shooter in the world.

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Speaker 1: But there's you know, it's hard to have sympathy when

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Speaker 1: we all saw this three years ago, but they've been

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Speaker 1: old for three years.

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Speaker 2: It's like Milwaukee make.

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Speaker 7: A move or not well, just in the NFL playoffs,

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Speaker 7: we don't have Mahomes, we don't have Burrow, we don't

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Speaker 7: have Lamar. It's okay, it's a bit of a reset.

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Speaker 7: It's interesting and wide open. But in the NBA, we

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Speaker 7: need Curry in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Come on, he's one of the.

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Speaker 7: Three most exciting players in the league, you know, along

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Speaker 7: with Wenby and Luca.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have the third fewest fast break points,

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Speaker 1: fewest points in the paint. Like they just score on threes.

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Speaker 1: They're not fast enough to beat down the floor. They

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Speaker 1: don't have size. Like it's over, like make a big

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Speaker 1: take a big swing. You've got so much equity with

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Speaker 1: the fans because you've won so many titles. It's like

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Speaker 1: after Jordan, they were still selling out games for years

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Speaker 1: in Chicago because you had so many Bull season ticket

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Speaker 1: holders that had so many quality memories. They just love

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Speaker 1: going back to the center and watching games and feeling

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Speaker 1: the love and your.

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Speaker 7: People in Chicago. Remember the Eddy Curry, Tyson Chandler days.

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Speaker 7: Those guys are big time recruits.

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Speaker 4: It didn't play pan out enough.

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Speaker 2: J Mack with the News. Well that's the news, and

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Speaker 2: thanks for stopping by the Herd Line News. Be sure

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Speaker 2: to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon

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Speaker 7: Wildcard Weekend has two huge games on Fox. Saturday, MVP

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Speaker 7: front runner Matthew Stafford leads the Rams against Bryce Young

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Speaker 7: and the Panthers. Sunday, Jalen Hurts and the defending champion Eagles.

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Speaker 4: Take on Christian McCaffrey in the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 7: It's Wildcard Weekend Power by Verizon Saturday and Sunday on Fox.

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Speaker 1: If the Niners start strong, if they have a good

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Speaker 1: first couple of drives on script, that game gets really interesting.

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Speaker 1: But to me, it's just remarkable the Niners are here. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: what a coaching job? I mean, I look at the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: How do they win eleven games with that offensive line?

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Speaker 1: It's a credit to Herbert. How did the Niners win

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Speaker 1: twelve games with that defense? It's a credit to Robert.

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Speaker 1: Solid'z not just about hoisting trophies. So there's a story.

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Speaker 1: Todd McShay came out and I totally agree with him.

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Speaker 1: He said, Hey, Dante Moore, stay at Oregon, don't go

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Speaker 1: to the Jets. And this is one of those things.

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Speaker 1: I've always felt bad for professional athletes. The harder you

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Speaker 1: work and the better you are, you go to the

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Speaker 1: worst company. Like if you're a top law student from Virginia, Yale,

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Speaker 1: cal Berkeley, you pick your law firm, you get choices

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Speaker 1: in any other business except in sports. The better you are,

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Speaker 1: the crappier franchise you go to. And everybody understands that.

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Speaker 1: But there are moments like the New York Jets current situation,

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Speaker 1: where you have a coach that is so far over

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Speaker 1: his skis they did not have an interception this year

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Speaker 1: in the league, in a division with Tua who was

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Speaker 1: second in the league in interceptions, and you played them

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Speaker 1: twice that I think if I was Dante Moore and

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Speaker 1: kind of wanted to come out, I would stay in

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Speaker 1: college so that I don't play with the New York Jets.

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00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever said that before. I just

657
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: think you got to give me something. You have to

658
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: get men. That doesn't mean like Las Vegas is different

659
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: for Fernando Mendoza. They have a Pro Bowl tight end,

660
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: a really good young running back. They're gonna have a

661
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: ton of cap space. Tom Brady's involved, and I'm like

662
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 1: all right, Like I like I could. I could talk

663
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: myself into that, even if I don't think Mark Davis

664
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: is an elite owner. You've got to give these young

665
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: people something I've said before, the Giants and the Falcons.

666
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you start looking at the Giants, for instance,

667
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: they're drafting five. If I was a quarterback coming out,

668
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: you know, and and and Jackson.

669
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: Dart wasn't there.

670
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: Well, I've got a left tackle, Andrew Thomas, number one receiver, Neighbors,

671
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: I got Skataboo, and a defense that has a pass

672
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: rush in a division where only absolutely Philadelphia's got better players.

673
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: I would have no problem coming out if Jackson Dart

674
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: wasn't there. I think Jackson Dart today believes he's in

675
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good situation. If Scataboo and Andrew Thomas can

676
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: and Neighbors can stay healthy, feel pretty good about it.

677
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: But you can't ask a guy in the nil era

678
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: to come out of Oregon, which was fifteen years ahead

679
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: of everybody else in terms of facilities and treating players like.

680
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't have to pay him. They treated

681
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: them so well at Oregon.

682
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Their training tables, their facilities, the game day environment. It's

683
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: a great City, Eugen's a wonderful place to go to college.

684
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not leaving, and now I get paid.

685
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving, So I do think you'd you occasionally

686
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: have really bad situations. Now there's an argument Houston was

687
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: one of those.

688
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: And then c J.

689
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: Stroud got Demik o'ryans. So if the Jets had Demik o'ryans, Okay,

690
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: you're giving me something to grab onto. There's nothing for

691
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: Dante More to grab onto. It's hard enough. I mean, Jackson,

692
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: Dart and cam Ward who were the first round quarterbacks

693
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: last year.

694
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: They're gonna be on their coach this year. It's just chaos.

695
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: So here was Joel Klatt on quarterbacks like Dante Moore

696
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: just stay in college.

697
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Another year. Mahomes had a ton of starts. Matthew Stafford

698
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: had a ton of starts.

699
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 8: Look at what he's doing there. It's a good chance

700
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 8: he's gonna win the MVP. So this this has born out.

701
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 8: This is not a one or two year sample size

702
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 8: in the National Football League. This has been a twenty

703
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 8: five year deal where we can look and see who's

704
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 8: succeeding in the postseason in particular. And that's why it's

705
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 8: easy to, you know, say to a guy like Dante

706
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 8: Moore or a lot of these quarterbacks stay in school,

707
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 8: stay in school, and now they're getting paid to do so.

708
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: Now I was saying, you know, I think Dante Moore

709
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: is going to be a good pro I what happens

710
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: now is everybody gets picked. Apart listening to people criticize

711
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza, I've seen like multiple people come out.

712
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

713
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: He's six' five with a good, arm moves well, enough

714
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: And indiana runs a lot of pro style. Stuff mendoza

715
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: is going to succeed unless he gets bad. Coaches Dante morris,

716
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: similarly great, kid legendary, reputation hard, worker throws a gorgeous,

717
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: ball got a little bit of mobility To those are

718
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: both really good potential pro. Prospects But Dante moore's. Twenty you,

719
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: Know mendoza has already been to cal for two years

720
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: where he had to carry, him and then In, indiana

721
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: so he's got like a real college. Experience he doesn't

722
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: need another year even if he wanted to come, back

723
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: or he could come. Back Is mendoza junior or a.

724
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: SENIOR i didn't watch him a lot at cal for

725
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: two years. HIGHLIGHTS i see him At. Indiana he's ready

726
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: for the. Pros mendoza is ready for the. Pros Dante

727
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: morre's twenty needs another fifteen. STARTS i don't think he's

728
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: quite ready to overcome a little bit of, chaos which

729
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: Even mendoza will have to, overcome and he's probably a

730
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: higher end.

731
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: Prospect that's WHERE i. Feel by the, way.

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00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: The Miami dolphins are not a guiding light or a

733
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: norm star over the last thirty. Years, Right, yeah The

734
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: Don shula days are are are long. Gone but it

735
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: is interesting that they are considering bringing Back tua And mike,

736
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: McDaniel AND i actually agree with.

737
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: Them so you owe.

738
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: TOUA i think the number is like fifty, million and

739
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: then he's off the. Books, well he didn't have much

740
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: of a, market and the truth is he's comfortable in this.

741
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: SYSTEM i Think miami's, problem the root problem was roster.

742
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: Construction so if you THEY'RE, gm think about. This so

743
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: they they Draft tua and then the next year they

744
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: Draft Jaylen. Waddle so they've got plenty of speed at,

745
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: receiver and they double down and, go let's give up

746
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: draft capital and pay a fortune For Tyreek. Hill, Well

747
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: tua does not have a big. Arm it's not a

748
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: great deep ball, thrower and that's What Tyreek hill. Does

749
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: and you already Had Jalen. Waddles they're not building a track.

750
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: Team so if you have two as a, quarterback you

751
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: need a good old line and a consistent. Backup they had.

752
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: Neither so my take is two is comfortable with. McDaniel

753
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: McDaniel's comfortable With. Tua they made A Pro bowl. Together

754
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: the problem In miami was roster. CONSTRUCTION i, mean there

755
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: are certain quarterbacks in this league that smaller quarterbacks or

756
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: Like Jared. Goff Jared goff needs, Protection Matt stafford needs,

757
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: Protection tua needs. Protection Lamar jackson in his Prime Mahomes

758
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: donald can run around like some guys can live like right.

759
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: Now Sam donald is A Super bowl, favorite and there's

760
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: an argument the second worst offensive line in the playoffs Is.

761
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: Seattle gray's abel has, helped but it's not a good old.

762
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Line donald can make stuff up, Right he move to

763
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: pocket run on his. Own so here here Is mike

764
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: McDaniel on potentially they haven't hired A gm yet running

765
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: it back With.

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00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 9: Tua first things, first you, KNOW i don't think anybody

767
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 9: quite understands what what it would be like to be

768
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 9: through the ringer of a year that he's. Had so

769
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 9: to remove emotions to you, know have a conversation will

770
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 9: be very.

771
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: Healthy so you probably want to hire an offensive. Coach

772
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: and if you go look at the first two seasons

773
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: With mike, McDaniel until the roster construction was just too

774
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: difficult to, overcome they were Making Pro, bowls they got

775
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: to the. Playoffs SO i look at McDaniel in two

776
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: and my take, is why not bring it back one

777
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: more year? Again if it was a great year for,

778
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: candidates then a top three offense in the first two,

779
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: seasons and Then tua not surprisingly got. Hurt SO i

780
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: kind of look At miami and my take, is the

781
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: first couple of, years this thing totally, worked But tua got.

782
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: Hurt they didn't address the offense. Line it's been the

783
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: weakness of the team for. Years that's on THE gm

784
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 1: and he's. Gone so, again it's easy to just say clean.

785
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: House but the coach is capable if you give him

786
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: something to him made A Pro bowl when he was,

787
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: Upright and you'd want to hire an offensive coach, Anyway

788
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: and it's a weak job market And stefanski doesn't appear

789
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: to be in line for. It SO i don't always

790
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: trust all the things The dolphins. Do BUT i don't

791
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: think it's the craziest thing when you owe him fifty

792
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: large anyway to bring two on McDaniel back for one more.

793
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: Year don't think it's the craziest. Thing Greg olsen around

794
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: The corn