1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stefan 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Never told your protection of I Heart Radio, and we 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: are here celebrating activists and advocates around the world. Maybe 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: we should put that in our title somehow. Um, And 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: as we always do, we love to celebrate all the 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: things we can want themes, historic themes, all of that, 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: and want to keep on our intersectional journey in giving 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: flowers to those who keep fighting for the rights of 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: all of our people and for us. So yeah, that's 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: our tagline, I think? Is that? Is that? It? That? 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: The one? Oh? I mean sounds great. I'm gonna have 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: to like look at it and see how long it is. 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, pretty short. But I don't like anything short. 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: So come on and before we start, since you know again, 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: we don't want to just been to it any I 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: have a get to know you question, but not one 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 1: that's gonna hopefully make you vomit or anything or bladed anywhere. 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: Don't blame reference to a story that she was featured 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: for in a couple of years ago, for thirteen Days 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: of hel aw I was gonna say their ten weeks. 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: I think that's how we sell them. Rate Halloween Years 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: of Halloween. So but the series Thirteen Days of Halloween, 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: So if you don't know what we're talking about, you 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: should go check it out. What was the title of 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: the episode, Well, I caught it red Velvet. I think 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: in the the format of not mine being like you 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: should call it red velvet. I think it was called 28 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: like forking. It was called the garden, like forking, passing 29 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: the garden, but also kicking. Michael Key said my name 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: he did, so I'm gonna just like wipe my hands 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: of that and a success. It's amazing. But yeah, so 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: just you know, throw back to that reference. But again, 33 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be that intensive promise, and I did 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: give you a heads up, but I think it's gonna 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: be funny if you had to have an as known 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: as or an a k A like you know, any 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: the blank or blank something any what would you want 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: or what do you think people would give you? See, 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: I know you said don't panic, but I did kind 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: of panic because this happened sort of right before, which 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: is kind of my bad. But I was looking at 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: my leg I have me and my close group of 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: friends that have been friends since kindergarten or around there 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: have like a post it note where we postum nicknames 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: for each other. None of them are really appropriate for 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: this question. I don't think I would like it to 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: be like Annie the kind or Anie Annie the cinnamon role, 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: or I even was like Annie the Brave, but then 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: I thought in parentheses it would be brave braves or 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: any she bravely runs away. Why because I can also 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: be pretty cowardly when it comes to facing my emotions, 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: So this became a very intense card. Even yeah, definitely 53 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: did not mean it to go that route. I would 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: say it would definitely be a Star Wars or fandom 55 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: level of a k for you. We need a generator, 56 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: but you know, we have really creative listeners. So if 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: y'all can think of one for any police and you 58 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: can take one from MA, go ahead to because I 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: don't know if I have one either. Mine are all 60 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: negative connotations, which would be like save me the sad sack, 61 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: or you know, if you wanted to go into like 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: school superlatives. I was the most dependable, and it really 63 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: was on the nose. I was like, yeah, I'm pretty boring, 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: so it can be reliable to a point. I am 65 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: very loyal to every point as well, so you know, 66 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: I don't know what beyond that. Hopefully it wouldn't be 67 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: too sad or negative, right, But yeah, this is how 68 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: we go about it, don't we. Yeah, think oil is good. 69 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: I almost I almost went with Jedi, but I was like, 70 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: I can't. No, I can't the new Jedi. Yes, well 71 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: that's why Jedi. No. I just feel like I'm not 72 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: cool enough. That's all something to do with Definitely the 73 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: seers of the Jedies or something like that. I could 74 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: see like you are and aren't the sears that kind 75 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: of taking the historical context and sees and knows what's happening. 76 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: I felt that could be you for sure. Oh yeah, okay, 77 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: the seer of fandom. I didn't say fandom, but yes, 78 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: we know the power of the fandom. So you know what, 79 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: that's a that's a heavy duty duty. It is. Well, 80 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: today we're talking about I know everybody's like, what is happening, 81 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: but we are talking about phil Opoku Jimma, also known 82 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: as Lady phil a Ka, which is by the way, 83 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: a fantastic a k A. And this is what made 84 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: me think of it, because, yeah, she's very well known, 85 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: especially in the UK, for all of her work. Um 86 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: and as an activist who has always been an advocate 87 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: for her community even before graduating school at a young age. 88 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: And she's had a lot of great influences in her 89 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: life to move forward as this and Lady Phil is 90 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: a powerhouse who is the embodiment of intersectional activism to me. Um. 91 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: Lady Phil is the founder of UK Black Pride, which 92 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: was started in two thousand five as a Black Lesbian 93 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: in the UK Facebook group. They planned a day event 94 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: for the community of South and on Sea and has 95 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: now stretched as quote Europe's largest celebration for l g B, 96 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: d q I plus people of African, Asian, Caribbean, Latin 97 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: American and Middle Eastern dicit which is on their site 98 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: by the way, um and Yeah, they have grown in 99 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: leaps and bounds and have done some amazing work in 100 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: the UK and around the world. Yeah and at the 101 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: organization still here and bigger than ever a Lady Phil 102 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: has been working hard for the queer and black community 103 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: in the UK as well as all over the world 104 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: and about UK Black Pride, Opuku Jemma is just beyond proud, 105 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: she says about it in an interview with Bustle. We've 106 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: built an amazing team behind UK Black Pride. It has 107 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: inspired a whole new generation of global activists that I 108 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: see as change makers. That's what gives me energy. Black 109 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: Pride demonstrates immense power that is rooted in love and solidarity. 110 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: That's what makes me proud. Yeah. And talking with Vogue 111 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen, she talked about why she began 112 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: the organization. She said, when your community is always under 113 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: attack and you're constantly seeing injustices where black and brown 114 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: bodies are constantly being attacked, you must do something. When 115 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: you look at the Stonewall riots, there was no one 116 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: single point of motivation. People decide that enough is enough 117 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: and we need to be seen and heard invisible three 118 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five days of the year. We're not 119 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: going to take not being heard anymore, or our Muslim 120 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters being treated like second class citizens. And 121 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more on the organization, she says, UK 122 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: Black Pride is an organization which is set up very 123 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: much like the other pride in the country around the world, 124 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: but it happens to center around queer people of color, 125 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: so African, Asian, Caribbean, Latin American, Pacific, Indigenous people. It's 126 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity to not just celebrate being queer and being 127 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: l g b d q I A plus, but also 128 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 1: to look at the challenges we face on a daily 129 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: basis while campaigning against homophobia, bi phobia, transphobia, intersex phobia, 130 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: as well as the structural systemic racism that exists in society, 131 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: in our workplaces, in our schools, our hospitals and so forth. 132 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: And she has been doing so much more, including being 133 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: the executive director of clidasop Trust, which was started in 134 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: twenty campaign for the human rights of the LGBTQ plus 135 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: community around the world. Opko Jemma was appointed in twenty nineteen, 136 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: making her the first black woman to head a leading 137 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: lgbt Q plus organization in the UK, and she has 138 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: been involved in bringing queer voices to the written world, 139 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: editing and publishing Sister and and Thology written by LGBTQ 140 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: plus women of African and or Caribbean descent. Over thirty 141 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: one writers were included. On top of that, she has 142 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: been the Grand Marshal for both New York Pride and 143 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: Toronto Pride. Right She's been there um and she's been 144 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: recognized for her amazing work, including getting the Black LGBT 145 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: Community Award of the Big Society Award, nomination World Pride Powerless, 146 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: European Diversity Awards Campaigner of the Year in twenty seventeen, 147 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: was on the Pride Power List in one and so 148 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: many more. And as for the future, she says in 149 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: the same vote interview quote, I hope for the future 150 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: that we see real, meaningful change for black and brown 151 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: people in the country and abroad, that the rights that 152 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: are afforded to some are afforded to all. That's why 153 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: we're doing what we are doing. Pride is not just 154 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: the celebration. It's about the change that needs to happen 155 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: so that we are not constantly living in a state 156 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: of being marginalized. I may not be here in the 157 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: next ten years, twenty years, or thirty years, but I 158 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: want to be able to leave a legacy, a legacy 159 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: that means that the shoulders of the giants I have 160 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: sued upon well, that the next generation can do that too, 161 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: that they aren't having to fight twice as hard as us, 162 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: but things are made easier for them. Yeah, and we 163 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: wanted to have that end quote because absolutely, I think 164 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: we all hope to be able to make it easier 165 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: for the next generation and not to see the cyclical 166 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: cycle that unfortunately we have to. And as in fact, 167 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: she talked about how they started this organization, the UK 168 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: Black Pride, because she was somewhat disappointed a out Pride 169 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: in its events at the young age, and how it 170 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: was all pretty much for the white community and showing 171 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: what it is to be diverse, and again talking about 172 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: the intersectional needs of marginalized communities. That it's great that 173 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, we're celebrating one thing, but while aren't we 174 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: including all the things? And I think we've talked about 175 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: that so often, whether we're talking about the Women's March, 176 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: where we're talking about feminism in itself, that it has 177 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: to be intersectional or doesn't mean anything. And uh, yeah, 178 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: we have to celebrate those who have pushed for that 179 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: narrative to finally be at the forefront. Yeah. And I 180 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: love the idea of thinking about the next generation and 181 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: having that hope of I'm doing this so the next 182 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: generation can build off of it and do even better 183 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. Um, I think it's 184 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: very hopeful. Yeah, Yeah, it's very hopeful and needed. So yes, 185 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: happy to to talk about these people as always to 186 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: give flowers as always, and also as always, if you 187 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: have any suggestions for people organizations we should shout out 188 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: in this segment, please let us know. 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