1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an Imheart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the New wind Down. We're so professional, So 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a sign here. There's gonna be a sign. 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: There's no who's listening right now, There's there's no sign behind. 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: But we're gonna put the sign up in Easton, come on, 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: show your face. He's in the corner over here. Nobody 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: puts Easton in the corner. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: But with his Channa shirt. 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: On, I know he comes. He comes walking up the 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: driveway like and someone's like, I love it. There was 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: a little kid coming home from school and like walking 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: up the driveway. But yeah, ladies, how does it feel? 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: It's so great. I feel like a professional. I feel underqualified, 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: but I'm just going with it. 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: But it's so cozy great at the same time, I 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: love it and. 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm here for the light. Can I say that as 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: a forty two year old tired mom. I just love 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: the natural light at the view is beautiful. Well, we 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: had in the last set up the ring light would 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,919 Speaker 2: keep like I had to tape I had to tape down, 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: yeah all the time. And so this is this is 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: nice to be able to have. I mean, I'm going 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: to put some blinds up there because it can be 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: a little it might be a little hard times for 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: my little Alabaster, the Alabaster team. But yeah, and then 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: just like the view, like we can like take in 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: the view. It's stunning. Thank you love it. Colors are great. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: What you got over there, kab Well, I'm not a 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: champagne fan, so I'm using your pregnancy as an excuse. 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: But this is just sparkling grape juice. It's organic, so 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: it makes us feel good. But I think we should 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: like have a little cheers to the new space. Is 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: it going to like blow up everywhere? I don't know, 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: my gosh, that would be hilarious. Have the time that 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: I spilled red wine on your cow, but I was 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: dancing on your bar. You don't know about it because 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: Cat is my little ace in the hole over there, 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: grab the phone and I danced. 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: On the bar and I but and you're pretty sure 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: there was a lot of people that saw that. 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: Cleaned it right up for me? 43 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: Was it me? 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 4: Was it me? 45 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: Ye? 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: Credit to you and my brain. I'll take it. Was 47 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: I'll take it. You handled it, Michelle is the reason 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: I spilled it. We were all having fun that night. Yeah, 49 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: it was fun. Yeah, so I have a question answer. 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: We haven't canceled everything, have we have? 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: We canceled everything? Oh like on wedding Welcome to jan 52 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: on birthdays. See, in real life, when we talk on 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: the couches, we she can tell us that she doesn't 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: want to answer. But when we have heart in the world, 55 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: well done, thank you. I know what I want to 56 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: do for my fortieth Oh you always have what she 57 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: just came up? Well, well, well change, but I did you? 58 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 2: Did you hear what I want to do now in 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: my fortieth No, I'm nervous. Okay, well now that we're 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: not doing a private island with fireworks like and you know, 61 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: dancing and just just blowing it all the old budget 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: cut back, we got a house in a baby instead. 63 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: She act yes because I was just like, yeah, Catherine 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: over here blowing all the money, because I'll just never 65 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: forget my thirtieth birthday. You walked in. I was like, 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: covers over my face, like I was like, I'm single, 67 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: I'm alone, I'm like I've got I'm just whatever. I 68 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: think Eastwood and I had just split up or whatever. Yeah, 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: oh that was bad for me too. It was your 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: own personal bat Era, San Diego anyways, but why are 71 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: lose my train? I thought, oh yeah, because she had 72 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: a baby in your belly where at forty? Because like 73 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: the irony, I'm like, okay, I get it all right, 74 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: And so I want to do a murder Mystery party 75 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: where we're all like our own characters in the murder Mystery. 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: Like you can have someone christinates it, are you? I 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: just want to put DIBs on my character because I 78 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: feel like character. I'm from Michigan and sometimes it sneaks 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: out when I say snacks and Kiaki's I've just never 80 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: heard I do it, but like I've never heard because 81 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: I'm I was like Joly Snack and every morning I 82 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: was like Gregor Snack. I just don't want to get 83 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to get the stock character. Yeah, I 84 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: just need like, can we have like a character draft 85 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: or something. So that's stuck because I feel like, you 86 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: guys know, I'm not going to make a stink. I'll 87 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: just always go with whatever, like characters are a good actor. Yeah, 88 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: sence doesn't matter, do you know what I mean? And 89 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: this is right before you assign me Colonel Mustard. I've 90 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: seen this before. Grammar if never. I've never been to 91 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: a murder mystery either. Is it going to be too scary? Oh? 92 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: Come on, christ, I don't like haunted houses. It's not 93 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: a hard somebody has to die. Who's the murder? Well, 94 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: murder somebody. I actually would like to. I would like someone. 95 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: To die. 96 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: This what anyway? So I think is it like a 97 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: but isn't there like like a well someone will know 98 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: that they're the murderer. But like it's like in clue, 99 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: like you know that you're the person, right, someone will 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: come here and run it for us, like yeah, yeah, 101 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: like a little chalcout. I haven't really done doing some research. 102 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah I have. So do they listen? And I care 103 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: you do and cares like I don't want to do it. No, 104 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: I was like the best idea ever, let's go. I 105 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: do like it. I just didn't. I just didn't because 106 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: I like to. I like to solve things, so that 107 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: feels good to me. I think, just to see all 108 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: the different personalities, and like the husbands too, like how 109 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: like I mean Alan like his like he kind of 110 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: always wanted to be an actor too, like, and he's 111 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: like non professional playing soccer world. I hope I'm the murderer. 112 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: We have to be careful for the non We would 113 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: have to see how it works with those that can't act. 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: But like, I feel like we all can't. I feel 115 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: like we all do in a way in life. Oh 116 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: that's deep but right, and we all can act. I'm 117 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: going to do it. I can't. I am going to 118 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: bring home this Emmy for U Kramer. I'm so proud 119 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: of me. I'm excited. 120 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so we know what you want for your fortieth yep, 121 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: so that's them great. 122 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: Now I can't. I'm so excited. Murder mystery wedding. I don't. 123 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: I don't. I just don't. We're still trying to figure 124 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: it out. It's just so expensive. It's a really bad 125 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: time to have like everything happened and like plan but 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: like this, okay, this is actually really funny and I 127 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: need to have Alan on the podcast to talk about this, 128 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: so I'll save it. But to me, it's one of 129 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: those things where I'm like we're having a baby, like 130 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: do we really? I want to marry him and I 131 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: want to have the wedding, like I said, And also 132 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: everything feels a little backwards too, so then it's I'm 133 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: trying to like I know, I know, I want the 134 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: vision that I want. I would love to have a 135 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: wedding like where like I said last podcast where I 136 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: was like, he's the only one I actually would love 137 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: the wedding with, right, So I want that. I'm just 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: trying to it's it's it'd be costly for the guests, 139 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking of the guests and just trying to 140 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: figure that out, trying to go down Okay, well, how 141 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: can we make it look this way? And it's just 142 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: it's just a lot and I think we've tabled it 143 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: since we've moved in here. We're going to put it 144 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: back on the table again. We were held at two 145 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: spots okay, date wise the same dates, but it's just 146 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: also those things too. I don't want to inconvenience and 147 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: do all that, so we're not canceling. But there's also 148 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: a piece of me I'm like, what do I really want? 149 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: What does he really want? What do we because I 150 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: almost I'm like I want to call him. I cannot 151 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: wait to call him my husband, and I want to 152 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: call him my husband, like now, well head to the 153 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: courthouse for going to the courthouse. I still I want 154 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: that one moment and I like was like that I 155 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: felt wasn't The first one was whatever, we I didn't 156 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: even have a wedding. The second, you know, the second 157 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: one was like whatar wasn't really in it? Third was 158 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: like immensumon to me? You know, But I this is 159 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,119 Speaker 2: so different. So I would say this from a guest perspective. 160 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: I feel like you and I are wired very similar, 161 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: so I would worry about the same thing. But I 162 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: would tell you like, for me, it is such a 163 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: fun excuse to like actually do the things or go 164 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: to the places right, Like I'm like trying to do 165 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: like castle tours, and like I didn't know how much 166 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: we've shared. I can't remember what is on or I 167 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: mean it's definitely gonna mean Scotland. So Scotland to me 168 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: is like list and I am like, I it is 169 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: such I wouldn't. It would probably be years from now 170 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: before I would do it. Well, I'll be just as 171 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: happy if it's your backyard or your living room. But 172 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: I get it. I'm just speaking like at a guest perspective. 173 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: Sure it's expensive, but we're getting the heads up. And 174 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: also and I'm trying to like plan really cool things 175 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: we just can't cover well. 176 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: Think that, like we probably would never do, right, it's 177 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: not something that would make it on our you know, 178 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: we just probably would never get to that. So it's 179 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: something that we would not normally get to do. We 180 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: already know, we're already planning it. We're planning on spending 181 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: money for that. We can plan with our family that Hey, 182 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: we may not take other trips next year or whatever 183 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: that is, but like that's our priority. 184 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: So Sanna's getting married again. I wasn't at the other weddings. 185 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: This is my first Jane to do it too. 186 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: So Yeaine, right, Yeah, you just don't worry about us. 187 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: And in the day, if we can't do it, we. 188 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: Would go, well we'll have a zoom meeting. But that 189 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: we can. 190 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if we actually could not, like it is 191 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: not feasibly possible. We don't have this money in our account. 192 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: We can't go. That would be a conversation. It's you know, 193 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I would love to be there, but I can't. But yeah, 194 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: we're planning, we're you know, we're fine, we are going 195 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: to go. 196 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's where we're I think we just need 197 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: to you know, and and you know, everything just we 198 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: just need I would say, slow and steady. It's been 199 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: my latest slogan, and I think you just go one 200 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: baby step, no pun intended at a time. Yeah, just 201 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: nice and calm. We've got some boxes to unpack. The 202 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: good news is all of our unpacking seems to be 203 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: physical for once in Jana kramer Land, and that means good, 204 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: not emotional unpacking. It feels good emotionally unpacked. Now we 205 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: just got to move in with regular cardboard boxes. Different 206 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: and it's been great too, like it was. It was. 207 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: It was such a different experience with Alan. Yeah, it 208 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: felt really like a partner. That's right, a partner, that's right. 209 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: It was. It was really it's been really nice. And 210 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: homes by the way, Like I know, we all feel 211 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: like it has to be done, but it's okay to 212 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: just like live in it and a box at a 213 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: time like we got time. It's your house forever. Yeah 214 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: for sure. I just like things done, should like sit done. 215 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: Like is there campaigns that are due too? I thought 216 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: about that after you, so you know there's there's things, 217 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: but it's all good. It's just the ticking ticking baby. Yeah. 218 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: First thing is to get everything ready for babes. Yeah, 219 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: but I'm excited, baby, only needs you and dead death. 220 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: And this is the first room that was like the 221 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: most put together, because that's why Easton's out here, because 222 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: I just like, I had a vision and I just 223 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: want this to feel safe and comfortable for us girls 224 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: and people that come on. 225 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: So I love it. 226 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: It's perfect, it's sunny, and hopefully we'll be able to 227 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: fill that seat with some guests in the near future. Yeah, 228 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: like real people. I feel like a real adults in here. Yeah, 229 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: all right, so let's shift a little Okay, nine two? 230 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: And now did you guys watch it? 231 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 232 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: You did? Were you not to know? I had the 233 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: bed sheets? But of course she did? Dylan forever? Who 234 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: is your favorite? 235 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 3: Uh? 236 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: Dylan? I went between Brandon Walsh and Dylan, but I 237 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: stayed mostly with Dylan. It's kind of doesn't that kind 238 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: of like that bad boy? Yes, it's just very obvious 239 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: early on I had a type. Yeah, And why didn't 240 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: I just acknowledge that because my first husband was a Brandon. 241 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: I'm in my Dylan era. I mean now too knows iconic? Yeah. 242 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: And then so okay, so they have a podcast, So 243 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: Brian is I don't think they've ever got married, right, 244 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: I don't think. 245 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: So, Yeah, I don't even know if they're engaged. Are 246 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: they engaged? 247 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 2: I think they're just dating. Let's ask them. Well, they're 248 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: in the waiting room, so we have a lot of questions. 249 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: But before they come on, though, was there anything off limits? 250 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: Because I was asking Catherine a question and I was like, 251 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: could I say, can I ask them this? But She's like, 252 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: it wasn't on them. I don't don't ask us, So 253 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: I feel like, is it just I feel like we 254 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: always ask what we're not supposed to ask. Well, then 255 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: let's get on that case. Welcome to wine, don't hi? Guys, Hello, 256 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: I have the exact same is that the thread? But 257 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: there's a thread between us, the one in the back, 258 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: that same one in my bathroom. I love It's one 259 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: of my favorite connects. 260 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 5: Ye destined to me? Yeah that's from Tracy, my manager. 261 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: Did she send that for you too? 262 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: No choice when Megan and I got got married. But 263 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: I think it's with family and and sort of where 264 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: we are. It's I I think it's bigger than just 265 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: one one single relationship, you know. I think I think 266 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: that thread is is interesting. I don't I don't look 267 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: at anything as sort of like failing or succeeding. I 268 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: look at like things happening at the point when they're 269 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: supposed to and for a specific reason. So this, uh, 270 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: this thing makes absolute sense in the concept to me, 271 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: in my mind of that thread that connects us always 272 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: connects us in one way or another. 273 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: So in theory, I absolutely agree agree with you. But 274 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: like if I'm like Sharna, that I'd be like, well, 275 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: you had that with your. 276 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. 277 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: If I think if my fiance brought in like to 278 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: our new house, like like a frame that like, I 279 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: don't know, I'd be like, it's going in. 280 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: You at all. 281 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: Blink twice if that feels true to you, Blink. 282 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 6: Twice, right will help you? 283 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: No, it will go missing China, no one ever do it. 284 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: I don't know. 285 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 4: I don't actually feel that way. I haven't felt that 286 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: way about a lot of things. There are some things 287 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: like for sure, we wanted to refresh furniture over time, 288 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: you know, we ended up buying our own home together, 289 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: like to start that life. But and I think those 290 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: things happen slowly over time. I certainly didn't feel like 291 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: everything must go you know what I mean, It's like, no, 292 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 4: we'll do it as we do it as we build 293 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: our life. But I love that frame and I love 294 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: what it says, and it came from Tracy, who I 295 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: also love deeply. She's family to us, and I agree 296 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: with Brian. I think that thread still connects them, but 297 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: I think there are also many threads that connect all 298 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: of us and the people that come in and out 299 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: of your life, and so it rings true and it's 300 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: still very important, and she's very much a part of 301 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: our life. The thread will always be connected because of 302 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: the kids, and so we are all family. So there's 303 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: no bad feelings there to be like that cannot be 304 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: in this house. 305 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. It totally makes sense. 306 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: Although Megan is in our home come like when she's 307 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: dropping off or picking up sometimes with the kids and 308 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: she'll come in for a little bit. Yeah, and she'll 309 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: be holding Zane, and it's like we are one big family. 310 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: You know. 311 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: Family defines itself obviously in different ways, but with her, 312 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: it's you know, we we do share so much, and 313 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: she now shares so much with Sharna, and they have 314 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: an amazing, an amazing connection and friendship and mutual respect 315 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: for each other. 316 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 5: I love for each other because of. 317 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: That, and that's so, yeah, that's so important. I mean 318 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: it's kind of For example, my ex husband was here 319 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: the other day dropping off the kids because he knew 320 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: that me and my fiancer are moving into our new house. 321 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: And he's like, you know, I'll just come drop the 322 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: kids off. And he came in, he had a beer 323 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: with Alan, and it was just like I remember sitting 324 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: there going, this is really cool, Like. 325 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 5: This is really nice. 326 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: This is how it I would have I never would 327 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: have dreamt it this way, but I like, this is 328 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: I go, this is this is cool? You know. And 329 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: having said that, though he did want me to get 330 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 2: rid of the match. 331 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 5: Did he. 332 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: Of course he did. It was so comfortable. 333 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 6: Yeah you so you bought the exact same one. I 334 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 6: actually just thought I never knowe and you were like, 335 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 6: you typed in the year numberfore it and they sent 336 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 6: an exact duplicate of it. 337 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually felt that way about the couch when 338 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: I moved into my husband's bachelor pad. 339 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 6: I thought the count bran. 340 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: True to you. Okay, I saw the uncomfortability. Yeah yeah, 341 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 2: stage get that out. Couch has gotta go. 342 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: Yeah you kidding that couch has gotta go. You're not 343 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 4: watching TV snuggling on that. 344 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: Couch that hasn't been much snuggling before. I'm sure anyway, Yeah, wait, 345 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: you guys met it? Did I read it? At a 346 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: coffee shop? Yeah? 347 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we met at a coffee shop. It was 348 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 4: set up basically by our mutual business manager, which is 349 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 4: crazy that you know, she's not she's great with your finances, 350 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: but she's not really a matchmaker, so it was such 351 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 4: a weird request when she individually spoke to both of 352 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 4: us about needing to meet this client of pose. And yeah, 353 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: we met at Pedla's book in in Calabasas, and we 354 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: were just going to meet for coffee, for breakfast and 355 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: talk about a show that he was going to be on, 356 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 4: Mass Dancer, try and make it like not necessarily a 357 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 4: heavy date vibe, but could talk about dance kind of 358 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 4: work vibe. But we ended up sitting and talking for 359 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 4: five hours. 360 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 3: Even though even though Mass Dancer had for the most 361 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: part nothing to do with professional dancing, so there was there. 362 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 5: It was it was sort. 363 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: Of like, here's something to fall back on in case 364 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: you guys have nothing else to talk about. 365 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 5: But when I heard you know. 366 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: You guys can talk about dancing, I was like, what form. 367 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 5: Of dancing, you know, like I artistic expression within dancing. 368 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't totally get it. 369 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, does I say? We didn't talk about any dancing. 370 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: We just talked about life and lots of different things, 371 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: and it was really easy and wonderful and it just 372 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: felt good. It felt very comfortable and like we'd almost 373 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 4: done it so many times before. And so we continued 374 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: to meet for coffees and breakfast very casually, you know, 375 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 4: as Bryce said before. No, it wasn't a hair and 376 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: makeup done where your best outfit or you know, be 377 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: on your your best for that person. It was just 378 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: turning up sort of was who we are, very authentically. 379 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: And yeah, we did that for like five times, and 380 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 4: then we kissed for the first time, and then then. 381 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: Then we went to the couch, and then. 382 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: Then we went to the couch. We definitely went to 383 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 4: the bed. Actually by date six. 384 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: It's it's yeah on on a clean new mattress, so 385 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: you should feel get it out down. 386 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 5: And then uh yeah, yeah. 387 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: Then the rest is history, and the rest is then we 388 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: end up making a baby, right, we have a fifteen 389 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 4: month old? 390 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: Are you guys, because you're you're just are you going 391 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: to are you going to get married? Like what are 392 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: you just kind of like whatever with it? 393 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 4: No, we talk about it all the time, but for 394 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: sure will I think we don't feel the need to 395 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 4: rush it at all. You know, we know where in 396 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 4: this this is endgame. We are so blended at the 397 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 4: you know, our family, the kids, everything feels perfect, and 398 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: we don't feel the need to rush getting married or 399 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 4: making it official because to us, we already are. 400 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, honestly, making it official at this point is 401 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: uh is more for everyone else that's around that is 402 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: not part of the family and not in the house. 403 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, but we we absolutely live an act like this 404 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 5: is this is it, which which truthfully. 405 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: Is so we do talk about We've talked about what 406 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: kind of weddings we like and the way that we 407 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: do things or you know, we have those conversations. It's 408 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 4: definitely not like a secret and I you know that 409 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: we want to do that with each other. But life 410 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: is so very very full with full kids in the house, 411 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 4: and we'll get there when we get there. 412 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: Of course. I kind of like, you know, I'm trying 413 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: to like figure that piece out right now too. And 414 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: it's like when you have a baby, like I'm we're 415 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 2: about to have a baby, and it's like after that, 416 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: it's like we're together. Like it doesn't really like matter, 417 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: like it's just I know, he's my person. I'm going 418 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: to be with him. And it's like, I mean, we 419 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: haven't even gone on vacation together. Well we kind of 420 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: skipped all the all the part we did reverse dating 421 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: as well, so but it's like it's okay. 422 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 5: That's what you get. I mean, I got a jump 423 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 5: in first on a new mattress purchase. 424 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: We bought a couch, and then we had three kids, 425 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: so that just ths quick. You know, whose idea was 426 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: it to do the podcast? 427 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: It was actually Brian and Randy. 428 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 3: They were talking and Brian, you would be better at 429 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 3: telling this story. Yeah, So I I was doing a 430 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: podcast before that was much more like a sort of fun. 431 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: There wasn't We didn't really have plan as such. We 432 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 3: my my podcast partner lived in Mississippi, so we sort 433 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: of had this thing where we would uh call each 434 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: other on Skype or on Zoom and then we would 435 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 3: record for an hour and it was basically just kind 436 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: of catching up with each other's lives. But I gotten 437 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: to a point where I was really after everything that 438 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: was happening in my life. I felt like Sean and I, 439 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 3: I know, when we get into conversations with other people 440 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: on their podcasts or in whatever form, we very much 441 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: enjoy talking about life and what we've learned and lessons 442 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: that are out there and sharing sharing things that we've experienced. 443 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 5: And so I did. 444 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 3: Uh. There was a there was a radio show called 445 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 3: Loveline when I was a kid here in Los Angeles. 446 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: It was on k Rock, and I did about a 447 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: dozen of them, honestly because the k Rock studios were 448 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: so close to my house so I could get there 449 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: in like five minutes. So they would just reached out 450 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: to me and be like, hey, you want to come by, 451 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: and so I would. And it was Doctor Drew. Adam 452 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 3: Carolla was on it, but before Adam, this guy poor 453 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: Man was on, and the show was basically that we 454 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: would talk about things and then they would have callers 455 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: and people sort of email. It wasn't even email. They 456 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: would they would fact, they would fax in questions and 457 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 3: we would read them on the show. And so I 458 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: had this random idea one night of like God, it'd 459 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: be really fun in this new medium to do something 460 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: similar to that, and I had been following Randy for 461 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: a while on Instagram and I know that he's he's 462 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: been a professional life coach for the past fifteen years. 463 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 5: So I reached out to. 464 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: Him initially and I was like, hey, you know, we 465 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: hadn't we hadn't talked in fifteen plus years, and so 466 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: I said, hey, how's everything going. You know, I've been 467 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: following your your your Instagram account, and I was thinking 468 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: about a podcast and I think that you and I 469 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: could do something really interesting, and so he was into it. 470 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 3: And then I had spoken to Sharna about it. She 471 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: was like, God, I would really love to be a 472 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: part of a podcast like that. And so then when 473 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 3: I when I talked to Amy u b at iHeart. 474 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 5: She said to me, she was like yeah. 475 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: She was like, oh, well, would Sharna like to be 476 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: on this podcast with you and Randy as well? And 477 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: I was like, you know, funny enough, we spoke about 478 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: it like two nights ago, and she was saying how 479 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: much she would love to do something like this. So 480 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: I think, without question, did you just leave me? 481 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: She just left me, That's that's fine. 482 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: So uh so I ended up sitting down with her 483 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: and I was, oh, Look who's back. 484 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 4: I deeply disagree. 485 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 5: Look who decided? Look who decided to show? 486 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: Is that her signal for your getting long winded or something? 487 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: Is that what that was? 488 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: Apparently I'm gonna go say quick, I'm going to go 489 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 4: get a coffee. 490 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 5: Minutes are you done yet? 491 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 3: So then we, uh, the three of us ended up 492 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: talking and then we're on very similar paths and so 493 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: that that's sort of what the podcast has come out of. 494 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: So enough of me talking now. 495 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm curious though, like, is there anything off limits that 496 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: you're like, listen, We're not going to go there, because 497 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: I know there's things that like when I did my 498 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: podcast with Max husband, I wish we could go back 499 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: and go man, I wish we didn't share certain things 500 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: because the media just runs with things, and then then 501 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: you feel like you have to why I did. I 502 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: feel like I had to then over explain it, or 503 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: not over explain it, but just kind of defend it maybe. 504 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: And then there were certain things too. We were still 505 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: going through things while sharing an open wound, and it's 506 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: like that wasn't healthy for us as a couple. 507 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't imagine that that would be healthy. We 508 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 4: haven't really had like a boundaries conversation. I feel like 509 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 4: we're very open transparent people, but we haven't had anything 510 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 4: come up for us that feels like that doesn't feel 511 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 4: good to share. 512 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 5: You know. 513 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 4: Our most recent episode was on co parenting, and obviously 514 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 4: there's always going to be things you choose not to 515 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 4: share because some things should stay in that personal space 516 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: and they involve other people. But I think we very 517 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 4: openly shared what our experiences are, and always with that 518 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: intention of love and kindness and not trying to ever 519 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: take other people down or make things more dramatic. 520 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 5: Than they are. 521 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 4: But I don't think anything has come up for us 522 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 4: that feels like I don't feel comfortable sharing that. 523 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 3: I feel like with a podcast like we're doing, it's 524 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: incredibly it's invaluable really for us to be as open 525 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 3: and honest about. 526 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 5: Our life and what's going on. 527 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: I think I think we just naturally will not get 528 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: into the weeds on things that we don't want to share, 529 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: but we take absolute ownership of what it is we 530 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: do share, so then if the media reports on it afterwards, 531 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily feel a need to then defend what 532 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 3: I said because I said it, and I said it 533 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: for the purpose of feeling like it was okay to 534 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 3: share at that time. So I sort of feel like 535 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: we share what it is we share, media picks it up, 536 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: they say whatever they say about it, and then it 537 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: sort of goes away because then our next episode comes, yeah, 538 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: and we're onto a new topic. And honestly, the media 539 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: is going to have a field day with all of 540 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: the stuff. I'm sure we're going to end up talking about. 541 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 3: But that's just part of the world we live in 542 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: and part of what it is we do that's not the. 543 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 4: Hot pot of it is that vulnerable share, Like you know, 544 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 4: I recently shared even two of the episodes we did, 545 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: that just gets made into clickbait headlines and it's a 546 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 4: it's a it's a headline, and then it's an edited 547 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: trend script and you're taking out specific words or lines 548 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: and you don't have the tone in there, and it 549 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: can be read a completely different way. And that's hard 550 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 4: that I've had that realization of like, oh my gosh, 551 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 4: anything I say ken and will be used in a 552 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 4: public platform. But again, I know what I said, I 553 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 4: speak very clearly, and I know my intention behind it, 554 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 4: and anyone that truly wants to know the real story 555 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: can always come and listen to it to actually understand. 556 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 4: But we will never just from simply being in the 557 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: public eye, whether we do it on a podcast or 558 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: an interview or people photograph us somewhere else. We're never 559 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: going to get out of that part of life where 560 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 4: people are going to fill the gaps with their own 561 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: story and their own narrative. Oh they're not holding hands, 562 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 4: or they're not looking at each other or whatever it is. 563 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: Someone's always going to make drama out of nothing, or 564 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: make it bigger than what it is at the very least. 565 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: And so I think that's just part of accepting that 566 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: we are we're on this journey. We've said we want 567 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 4: to be transparent and vulnerable and share, and that is 568 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: going to come with That opens up to people having 569 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 4: an opinion and filling it with their own experiences and narrative, 570 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: and we've got to be okay with that. But if 571 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 4: what we are talking about helps a few people, then 572 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 4: they can relate to it, or it's a source of 573 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 4: inspirational motivation for them, then that's awesome too. And we're 574 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: never going to have one without the other. That is 575 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: the balance of life. That is the ying and Yang, 576 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 4: and so we have to accept that all of those 577 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 4: things can and will happen. 578 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: So for people that are listening, Alsh is the name 579 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: of the podcast, which I can really relate to. I 580 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: just I'm turning forty two in a couple of months. 581 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: It feels very accurate. Grew up watching you, which matters, 582 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: you know, Like this is it's a really cool. It's 583 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: just really neat to watch people that we grew up 584 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: with actually get vulnerable and talk about real life a bit. 585 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: So it's the two of you Randy Spelling, which is 586 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: pretty dynamite trio. So what can what can they expect 587 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: when they tune in to listen to Oldish? Like what 588 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: is is there one I guess one demographic of a 589 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: person that you're you think of when you're speaking, is 590 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: it what's your main goal in doing it? 591 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 4: No? 592 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: Are for me personally, there is no demographic. I feel 593 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: like the things that we are talking about, we're we're 594 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: only sharing our perspective, which is an Oldish perspective. We 595 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 3: we have gone the full distance with some of these things, 596 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: and we have we have experienced hard situations and we've 597 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: come out the back end of it. And so for 598 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: us to then share with people what the entire experience was. 599 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: I think makes makes it easier for some people that 600 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 3: are just newly in something to realize like, oh, there 601 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: is an end to this, Like this doesn't as much 602 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: as this feels like this is an end all situation 603 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: and I'm just going to give up and I don't 604 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: know what to do. They realize from the from the 605 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: stories that we're sharing and what it is we've experienced 606 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: that the problems in life aren't They are much more 607 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: common than people would realize, and there is a beginning, middle, 608 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: and the possible end for these things. So you kind 609 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: of have to open your eyes a bit more and 610 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: see that. And I think if we can help people 611 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: of all ages deal with that, then we can't. The 612 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: only thing that's put us, I think, in this space 613 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: is the fact that we are oldish, that we have 614 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: gone we've lived as much life as we've had, and 615 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 3: we've come out the back end of it. Randy same thing. 616 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: He has lived so much life. He's now a life coach. 617 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: Like he's he's able to help people from experience in 618 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: dealing with things, not just in a sense of like 619 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: he reads books and so he knows what to say 620 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: he can really ask those questions because he asked them 621 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: of himself. 622 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is really cool. And like, as far as 623 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 4: the name goes, oldish doesn't mean even a number. I 624 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: think in your twenties you can feel oldish in comparison 625 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: to where you've come from, or it's a part of 626 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: your life. Maybe for those in their twenties that already 627 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 4: have three kids, you know, and they're living that experience, 628 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 4: it's age again. Oldish again. It's not a number. It 629 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: is a moment where you are have reached in your 630 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: life and what you've got in front of you. It's 631 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: the things that you're facing, which is the stuff that 632 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 4: we talk about. I think, you know, people in the 633 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: twenties can listen to us and have questions about disappointment 634 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 4: or we're talking about addiction this week, and relate to 635 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: them and maybe find some really great advice from people 636 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 4: that have been through stuff and found their way to 637 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 4: that ending that Brian is talking about. So every week 638 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: we do an episode, we pick a subject and we 639 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 4: talk about it, and then we follow up with questions 640 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 4: that fans have sent in that week with our second 641 00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 4: episode and have live people people call in live and 642 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 4: I think that's a really cool element, like the love 643 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 4: line thing, that we get to speak to people and 644 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 4: they can air their concerns and situations with us and 645 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 4: chat to people that they probably never thought went through 646 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 4: things like this and find a commonality and find almost 647 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: community within what they're going through and experiencing and not 648 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 4: feeling alone, because I think there is also so much 649 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 4: power in that and feeling support and finding a commonality 650 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: with people. 651 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: The connection piece is really important. 652 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: That. 653 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the being able to call in. I mean I 654 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: can imagine sometimes when you're listening you find that great 655 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: deal of comfort, and I know, like we've shared here, 656 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: there's sometimes I leave the podcast and I'm like vulnerability 657 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: hangover I said too much. I can almost feel it. 658 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's al so good in the minute, 659 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: and now I'm like, do I need to call a 660 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: couple of people and let them know or But I 661 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: do think when they get to call and actually talk 662 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: to you, that's like a really important piece. That's the 663 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: old school radio piece I think we all miss totally. Yeah, 664 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: it's a real human connection. Yeah, yeah, it's called connection 665 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: and we need it. 666 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's amazing because then you have these real 667 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: genuine conversations with people. There there's so many times where 668 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: I hear somebody speak and one of the things in 669 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 3: my mind is a question will pop up right away 670 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 3: and you're like, God, I wonder what this experience was like. 671 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 3: And so for people then to be able to call 672 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: in or send in questions and get answers to those 673 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 3: burning things that pop into their mind while they're listening 674 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: to an episode is really fun. I mean, what we 675 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 3: do is really has been really fun so far, doing 676 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 3: these follow up episodes the same the same week and 677 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 3: getting and really finishing these discussions for the week not 678 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: finished for I mean, honestly, we may revisit topics a 679 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: dozen times within the lifetime we. 680 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 6: Talked about me. 681 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we revisit Brian. For you, though, what is what 682 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: is something that's a common thread like that you could 683 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 2: that you are feel like you always not always struggle with, 684 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: but it has been a struggle for you in your past, 685 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: and that's something that you have to continue to work on. 686 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: That you might that that that you might share on 687 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: the podcast. We know you're not good at dancing. 688 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go get water real fast. 689 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 3: I think the thing that I'm always uh pushing myself 690 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 3: being is recognizing like my authentic feelings in a moment. 691 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 5: And and then. 692 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: Talking myself through those and sharing those. I so much 693 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: of the time when I was younger in life, I 694 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: would have these feelings and then automatically you kind of 695 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 3: go to this place in your mind of judging those 696 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: feelings and is it appropriate for me to be feeling 697 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: this way. Oh I should hide the fact that I'm 698 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 3: feeling that way, or oh it's you. You end up 699 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 3: with all these like dirty little secrets because you're not. 700 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: I feel like anxiety too. That might stem like. 701 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it it affects everything across the board. Yeah, you start. 702 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 3: I would start feeling anxiety in all sorts of ways. 703 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: I would feel anxiety. If I would be walking into 704 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: a Starbucks and ordering a drink. I didn't want to 705 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 3: look the person uh behind the counter in the eyes 706 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 3: because I thought right away, oh, my god, they're judging me, 707 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: or they're judging something I did, or And and it 708 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 3: was because I wasn't I hadn't really been authentic with 709 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: myself in dealing with those and figuring out what it 710 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 3: is that was going on and what I was feeling 711 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 3: insecure about and why and as soon as I as 712 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 3: soon as I did, and as soon as I started 713 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 3: conversing with people around me, it's amazing how many similarities 714 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 3: there were. And and then you start going to Starbucks 715 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 3: and realizing like, oh my god, the guy behind the 716 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 3: counter has just as much, if not more, going on 717 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 3: in his life than I do. So the last thing 718 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: that he's thinking is, oh, it's this guy, and oh boy, 719 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: the last project he did, but. 720 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 5: He could care less and he's. 721 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 3: You know, nine times out of ten, he's much more 722 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: judgmental of himself of like, oh my god, it's this 723 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: guy and I'm standing behind the counter in a Starbucks 724 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 3: and this is not where I want to be in 725 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: my life. 726 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 5: And so what you start. 727 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 3: I'm constantly trying to find the commonalities in my life 728 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 3: with other people that are around me and create as 729 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 3: much of a sense of belonging as possible, and sort 730 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 3: of you build that core that tribe around you. And 731 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: I find the more that I do that, the bigger 732 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 3: that tribe gets. The more I share, the more people 733 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 3: feel like they have things in common with me, and 734 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 3: they realize that they do. And then I'm not on 735 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 3: an island of one, you know. 736 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, then you have people that will lean in. 737 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: And I feel like Sharna is the best partner because 738 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 2: she's a very friendly You lean in, You're always so 739 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: kind and nice, and you wanted to have the conversations right, 740 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 2: and you wanted to be are you okay? And you 741 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: genuinely care about other people. So to have that person 742 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 2: in your life too, when you're going through anxiety or 743 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 2: whatever you're feeling, to have someone that actually listens to 744 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 2: you and that makes you and not make you feel 745 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: crazy for whatever your feeling or thinking about. 746 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's true for both of us, though 747 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 4: you know, I've had my own share of anxiety and insecurities. 748 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 4: Definitely went through my space of not knowing how to 749 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 4: voice my feelings or my wants and needs. 750 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 2: In this relationship and before or just not with. 751 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 4: Brian in the all the work that I trade off 752 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 4: to my previous relationships. But it's still every now. Even 753 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 4: though Brian is a amazing listener and a wonderful supporter 754 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 4: and partner and we do life really well together, my 755 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 4: things can still come up every now and then if 756 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 4: I'm not staying on top of them and on top 757 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 4: of you know, watching my own self talk or making 758 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 4: sure that I'm honoring my wants and needs, or taking 759 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 4: time for me to recharge, like all these things that 760 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 4: I know that help me be my best and communicate 761 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 4: my best. But what is so incredible is because we 762 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 4: are so transparent with each other and have those wonderful conversations, 763 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 4: the hard conversations. I can go to him and say, 764 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 4: I am feeling completely depleted and oversensitive and I just 765 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 4: need I just need a day or two and I 766 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 4: need to do this, and he can help me stay 767 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 4: accountable for that for myself, and it's really wonderful. If 768 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 4: he's feeling some type of way, I can always check 769 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 4: in with him and say, hey, here's this going on, 770 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 4: or I'm feeling this coming from you, where are you at? 771 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 4: And we have really amazing check ins with each other 772 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 4: instead of feeling reactive to what the other person's going 773 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 4: for Because certainly, when I'm feeling depleted and over sensitive, 774 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: like hyper sensitive, I can come off as a dick, 775 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I can my energy can 776 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 4: just feel wrong because I'm again, I'm just reactive to things. 777 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 4: I've got nothing left. 778 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 2: And it's not I mean, that's me, that's me too, 779 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: That's like, yeah, yeah, I mean, and it's nothing, it's 780 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 2: no reflection, you know, to Bri like you're not meaning 781 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: for And I literally just had this conversation with Alan 782 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 2: before we moved into the house. I'm like, I know 783 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: we haven't done this yet. I was like, can we 784 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 2: do a check in because I was like, I'm just 785 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: gonna I need to just kind of tell you, like 786 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: I needed to affirm him how amazing he's been and 787 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: just you know how incredible he is. But also like 788 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: I know how I get in stressful situations, I lash 789 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: out at the ones closest to me, And I was like, 790 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: and I don't want to do that and be like 791 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: for you to be on the receiving end. So if 792 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: almost you can help me, like and just kind of 793 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 2: like if you can see like an hour, I'm gonna 794 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 2: come grab your hand and you're gonna know that this 795 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 2: means I just need to take a breath with you 796 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: and just like yeah, because I don't don't want to 797 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 2: be hurtful with my works. I don't mean to be 798 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 2: to that person, you know. 799 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, absolutely, I think it's so important to open 800 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 4: up that conversation, and truly, I think everyone wants to 801 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 4: have that conversation. You just don't feel safe or confident 802 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 4: in approaching it right because by doing that, you are 803 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 4: airing some of your own feelings in dirty laundry, maybe 804 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 4: that you're still trying to not really dirty laundry, but feelings, 805 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 4: feelings and insecurities right that you're still working through and 806 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 4: to show those to your partner. I think, no matter 807 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 4: how long you've been together, if you're not in the 808 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 4: practice of sharing those things, it can be really hard. 809 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 4: But it is one of the most beautiful helpful things 810 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 4: in a relationship. That and also I think acknowledging and 811 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 4: this is something that we do but still are working on, 812 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 4: is when you are listening to that other person, it's 813 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 4: really helpful to ask how would you like me to 814 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 4: best be for you in this situation? Would you like 815 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 4: me to help you through it and help you find 816 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 4: a solution, or would you like me to just listen? 817 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 4: Is also a really big thing when you're sharing. Sometimes 818 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 4: you just need to share and don't give me solutions yet. 819 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 4: I'm not ready to hear how to fix it. I 820 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 4: just want to share it with you so you can 821 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 4: be just in this boat with me for a second, 822 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 4: or on this island with me for a second, because 823 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm on my arm. 824 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 3: The practice that we've learned that we've been really trying 825 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 3: to implement is is the concept of when somebody is 826 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 3: going through something and they just need to speak and 827 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 3: they need to talk to you about stuff, to then 828 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 3: reiterate what it is you heard so they hear it 829 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 3: and they know whether you. 830 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 5: Actually heard correctly or not. 831 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 3: It's really important because sometimes you'll say all of these 832 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 3: things and then the other person just just didn't really 833 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 3: ingest what it is you said. So it's good to know, like, okay, 834 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 3: So not only am I going to share with you 835 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 3: what's going on, but we're then going to share the 836 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: concept of okay, so what is it that you heard? 837 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 3: What I heard you say? Is you need more time 838 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 3: with this, or you feel this way, or or I 839 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 3: made you feel this way in life. So you kind 840 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 3: of create this, You create this sort of bond in 841 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 3: speaking and listening to each other, which is the two 842 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 3: go hand in hand, and it's really important to build 843 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 3: the skills in both. I think it's important too for 844 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 3: people to realize that somebody that is further along that 845 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 3: path and better at some things than others they're they're 846 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 3: not just better people. Like everybody is constantly growing, everybody 847 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 3: is constantly building new skills and practicing new things. We 848 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: have just as many issues come up, we just through repetition, 849 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 3: have gotten better at working through things. But that's all 850 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 3: it is. It's not necessarily that somebody is more elevated 851 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 3: than another. You learn these tools and these tricks and 852 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 3: these things that you can use to help you communicate 853 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 3: better with the people that are around you. Yeah, listen better, 854 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 3: be be kinder, be more empathetic, and they're they're all 855 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 3: of these things that you honestly gain just in doing it. 856 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 5: It just living life. 857 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 3: So you know, be be kind to yourself as you're 858 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 3: going through this experience. Be be okay with the fact 859 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 3: that you're not great at things right away that nobody is. 860 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 5: It takes practice. 861 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 3: Just like when you were young and you were in 862 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 3: math class or science class or history class. Communication with 863 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 3: people is not something that that you learn readily at 864 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 3: home when you're younger, and so so it's okay to 865 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 3: then learn at a later age, but at least you're 866 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: open to learning. So it's like, yeah, you grow with 867 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 3: the people that are around you. Find people that are 868 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 3: on that similar path as you and are willing to 869 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 3: do that work with you and and then you grow 870 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 3: together and it can be it can create these bonds 871 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 3: with people that are that are just amazing and so 872 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 3: much deeper than you ever knew it was possible. 873 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I even feel that for the women that 874 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 2: are with me here, I feel like we're so honest. 875 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: I feel like we even when we don't really want 876 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 2: to talk about things, we still talk about things. Are 877 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: we going to cry? No, okay, just check it out, 878 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 2: all right. It's just hard to the that's the hard 879 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 2: part for me. Well, like if there's a problem, he 880 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 2: always is like, I'm like, I just need you to 881 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 2: listen to me. I was like, and just to hear me. 882 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 2: You did nothing wrong. I'm just but he was like, 883 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 2: you know, always trying to fix. 884 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's usually a man thing too, And I 885 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: think it's a lot of me and you because of 886 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: like work. I'm like, okay, so how do we fix this? 887 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 2: Like what? 888 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: And then I'm like, okay, wait, she really just needs 889 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: to sit with this for a minute. 890 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 2: So I've tried to do better at that. 891 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 5: Fixing. 892 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 3: It's and a lot of times people the fixing that 893 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 3: is done is done internally with that person. Sometimes they 894 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 3: just needed to be heard and they just needed to 895 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 3: express and they need to hear it out loud, and 896 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 3: they needed to know that no matter what it is 897 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 3: they were thinking or feeling or how outrageous it felt, 898 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 3: that they're still loved as they're feeling that. So then 899 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 3: so then it sort of takes the sting out of it, 900 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 3: and you don't feel like such a freak in feeling 901 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,240 Speaker 3: something in the first place. You feel like, oh god, 902 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 3: I could I had a terrible day, but I'm still 903 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 3: loved by the people that are around me. I was 904 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 3: able to share that, and I wasn't frowned upon it 905 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 3: was I shared that in a safe place and I'm 906 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 3: still absolutely loved and we were able to laugh afterwards 907 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 3: and have a drink or have dinner, or we continue 908 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 3: to be ourselves and you grow. You grow with that experience. 909 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 3: That one experience leads to another one because you felt 910 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 3: comfortable in doing it, and then you start feeling more 911 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 3: and more comfortable with the people that are around you 912 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 3: that listen and accept you for who you are. 913 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 4: I think the fixing thing I relate to because that 914 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 4: was me I grew up wanting to fix things, fixed relationships, 915 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 4: fix people. It was just to came from my childhood 916 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 4: and the things that are you know, the programming, right, 917 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 4: but the learning that it is not my job to 918 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 4: fix other people. It's not and it's not fair for 919 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 4: me to take that from them to fix their things 920 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 4: or to push it on them. I can ask them 921 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 4: in that conversation, how can I be how can I 922 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 4: be your best friend in this? Would you like me 923 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 4: to listen or help you fix it? But it is 924 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 4: not for me to take that from them. To help 925 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 4: them fix it, that is their journey to figure out 926 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 4: and I can of course be support in that, but 927 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 4: it is not for me to push that on them. 928 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 4: And so that's a really big that was a really 929 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 4: big thing for me to learn. And also fixing up 930 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 4: people's things was a way for me to deflect and 931 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 4: not look at myself, right, So that's there's also that 932 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 4: there's layers to it for me. But yeah, yeah, the 933 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 4: wanting to fix a problem is I totally get you, 934 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 4: I totally get you, like, but I can I can 935 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 4: help with this, but really it's not about you. It's 936 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 4: about them and them getting to it on their own time, right, And. 937 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,439 Speaker 2: That's good messages for kids too. You know, I'm sure 938 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 2: that's how really, you know sure, it's like you want 939 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 2: to fix your kid's heartbreak from not being able to 940 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 2: have his first kiss. I'm like, oh yeah, I mean 941 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 2: that's that's a still example. But you know what I mean, Like, 942 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 2: I'm sure, because what's how what's the oldest for you guys. 943 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 5: Twenty one and then the youngest is fifteen months? 944 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but. 945 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,959 Speaker 4: In the home, wak in the home cash is road 946 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 4: is living his best life. So we have eleven, nine, 947 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 4: seven and fifteen months in the house. 948 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 2: You know, I was I was angry as a parent 949 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: for you when I saw that stuff that hit on 950 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 2: you know, the stupid tabloids and stuff. And I'm like, 951 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 2: for me, that's that's my hardest piece. Like when someone 952 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 2: because when someone comes after my kids, that's where I 953 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 2: have an issue. Like that's where it's like. 954 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, when someone is yeah. 955 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like whether they did or didn't, who sing cares, 956 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, just let them be, like, 957 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 2: let them parent how they want a parent. Like I 958 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 2: just it sent me like I was so angry because 959 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, again, I can look at the stories now 960 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 2: that they pick up and I'm like, yeah, okay, whatever, 961 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 2: Like they hate me, they hate me, it's fine, but 962 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 2: like when it comes to my kids, I'm like, don't 963 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 2: go there, Like and were then attacking your your parenting 964 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 2: where it's like you don't know the truth this this 965 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 2: random nanny that was that a thing might have you know, 966 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, who like it? Just I hated every piece 967 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 2: of that article. I know you ended up I think 968 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 2: tweeting something, but I was just like, that's that's hard. 969 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 2: And then it's also probably hard for them too as 970 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 2: they're getting older, you know, be like, what the heck? 971 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 4: And then what's so hot about it is? Because it's 972 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 4: so public and those things live forever, and one day 973 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 4: these kids are guard to they don't right now have 974 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 4: access to the internet and be able to probably have 975 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 4: be one day and searched inding and see what comes up. 976 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 4: And I hate that that exists. I hate that one 977 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 4: day they're going to see these things because none of 978 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 4: it's real or fair. It's just made up for a 979 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 4: clickbait headline for people to get on and push their 980 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 4: own agenda of whatever they feel like, and it's all 981 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 4: just fluff and bullshit. But it's hurtful to kids. You know, 982 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 4: as adults, we can go they hate me whatever, I 983 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 4: don't care. But they're going to grow up and be 984 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 4: very vulnerable at some point in their life and these 985 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 4: things that they're going to read may negatively affect them 986 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 4: and that really sucks. 987 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 2: Well, it really works you guys as parents, and you know, 988 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: the co parenting side to you, guys will be able 989 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 2: to share your wisdom, everything that you've learned as well, 990 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 2: you know, And that's that's how it's tough. 991 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 5: We try. 992 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the purpose of what it is 993 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 3: we're doing now. And honestly, I find genuine joy. 994 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 5: In doing it. 995 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 3: When when we get to the end of an episode 996 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 3: somebody has called in live with things to talk about 997 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 3: and concerns and things they're dealing with, and we've been 998 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 3: able to help them at all. 999 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 5: It just feels amazing. That's that. 1000 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:10,760 Speaker 3: I love the feeling of sharing, sharing things that I've 1001 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 3: learned and it possibly helping anyone. I mean, we are 1002 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 3: in this crazy, crazy situation where. 1003 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 5: The media does. 1004 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 3: They do turn their eyes towards what it is we're 1005 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 3: going through and they report on it, and so we 1006 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 3: have this strange soapbox that that that we can use 1007 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 3: for good or just for for gossip and personal personal reasons. 1008 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 3: And I love the feeling of, oh, we're trying to 1009 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 3: use it for as much good as we possibly can. 1010 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 3: I've learned way more in life from my failures than 1011 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 3: I have for my successes, and so I think it's 1012 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 3: important to keep that in mind with people and help 1013 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 3: them understand that, like, what what it is you're going 1014 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 3: through right now is hard, but it's these hard things 1015 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 3: that you're going to look back on in life and 1016 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 3: you're going to realize these are the things that created 1017 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:11,720 Speaker 3: who I am today. 1018 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 5: Successes are easy. 1019 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 3: You stumble into them, you go, oh my god, I 1020 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 3: can't believe it's going so well, and you learn nothing 1021 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 3: from it. You just continue to do what it is 1022 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 3: you're doing. It's the stumbles that you have in life 1023 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 3: that force you to look down and realize, like, Okay, 1024 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 3: what did I trip on in the first place? 1025 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 5: What's going on? What can I change? 1026 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 3: We're different shoes, you know, there are different ways of 1027 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 3: dealing with things, and it's those it's those experiences that 1028 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,240 Speaker 3: create that that movement and that change. 1029 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. Well, I'm excited to listen to 1030 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 2: the podcast. It's on iHeartRadio, so you know, got to 1031 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 2: support the whole team. But how to listen to Oldish 1032 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio with Sharna, Brian and Randy. Thank you guys 1033 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 2: so much for coming on the show. Appreciate it. 1034 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 5: Thank you guys. Bye. 1035 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 2: It's nice to see couples that I like, been through it, 1036 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 2: go through it and like continue to work on things together. 1037 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 2: That makes sense. Like yes, it's like they both obviously 1038 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 2: have their things that come up from past, like we 1039 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 2: all do, but how they seem to at least communicate 1040 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: to each other is beautiful and I feel like that 1041 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 2: comes with age too, Like how I was saying some 1042 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 2: of the things like the check ins with Alan, you 1043 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 2: know that I don't. I know, I don't want to 1044 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,240 Speaker 2: repeat things from my past, so I have to check myself. 1045 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 2: I've been checking myself a lot lately, have you. Yeah, 1046 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 2: well even till Jana. We walked the other day and 1047 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 2: she said, how are things with you? Impressed? And I said, 1048 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,240 Speaker 2: actually good because I think I go to him first, 1049 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 2: which is so silly, but I caught. I got caught 1050 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 2: in this. Like even just to pray about it first 1051 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 2: is great, and I'll still do that, but there are 1052 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 2: times where I'm just like God moves the pieces, or 1053 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: I would save all my things and come into therapy 1054 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 2: with like the laundry list, and instead I'm just like 1055 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 2: I've I'm finding better times to maybe say it for 1056 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: both of us where we can both hear it, because 1057 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 2: that's been an issue before. I'm so like I either 1058 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 2: fly off the handle or bury it all or nothing. 1059 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 2: But I do a lot of what they're saying and 1060 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 2: have said. It resonates with me a lot, just the 1061 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 2: turning towards each other, the vulnerability. I don't like to 1062 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 2: be vulnerable, so that's why I usually am like a 1063 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 2: little bag razor blades and I don't go to him first. Yeah. 1064 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 2: Is there one thing that your partner though I don't 1065 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 2: know that does though that you guys, it's like the 1066 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 2: little thing so this is let's just be silly little 1067 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 2: that you're just like this annoys me about you popcorn 1068 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 2: so fat? Oh definitely it's the. 1069 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 1: One thing talked about this because I'm scared to eat 1070 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 1: around you. 1071 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 2: Because he chomps. She just doesn't. 1072 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, when we were out on wind down. 1073 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 2: That's right because people chewing hmm, to chew hard for 1074 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 2: me and chumps and then are you like are you 1075 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 2: does he? I know I feel it down my spine 1076 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 2: while we talk about it. It's not his fault, he's 1077 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 2: just being a human. I can't do it though. 1078 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,760 Speaker 1: Katin uh, probably just like remembering things or like asking 1079 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: like what are we doing? I don't know, look at 1080 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: the calendar, you know, like that just drives me crazy. 1081 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 2: Well, you, is there a reason you brought to go? 1082 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 2: It's just funny because again I love Alan listen, we 1083 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 2: love him so much. But I think there was one 1084 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 2: thing that happened like last week where I was just like, oh, 1085 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 2: this is cute, like because it's it where you like 1086 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 2: there it is, there it is, but it's like the 1087 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 2: silliest thing. Okay, Like I don't want to go shopping 1088 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 2: with him anymore. Oh tell me? Like he tries everything on. 1089 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 2: This is why they took attendance away from the dressing rooms, 1090 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 2: because no one needs to tried it on it like 1091 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 2: a dicks. No. 1092 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 1: I do have my kids try stuff on a Dix. 1093 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: But it's very annoying. 1094 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 2: Because your kids, because they're growing. 1095 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: One door, you got to go find someone to go 1096 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 1: open it. 1097 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 2: Like how many times have you worn Nike and Adidas 1098 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 2: in your life. Yeah, But I'm just like, I mean, 1099 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 2: we're just going I thought we were just going in, 1100 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 2: Like know what were we going in for? I can't 1101 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 2: even remember. Oh, because he had to he flew back 1102 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 2: because what he was dealing with the piece of stuff 1103 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 2: or whatever, and so he wanted to get some more 1104 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 2: like running shorts or whatever, and so I'm just thinking 1105 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 2: and we had somewhere to go after that too, so 1106 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 2: we had like a thirty minute window, well like forty 1107 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 2: five minutes to an hour. I'm like, how are we 1108 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 2: still in Dicks? 1109 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 4: You know? 1110 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 2: But I'm just trying to be like, hey, babe, like 1111 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 2: where are you a He's like, I'm in the dressing room. 1112 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 2: And I was like it took I mean, I didn't 1113 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 2: say anything, but I was like, oh my god, I 1114 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 2: never want to go shopping with Did you stay in 1115 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 2: the car? Were you inside? 1116 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:54,280 Speaker 4: Well? 1117 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 2: At first, I was like, I'm going to go to 1118 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 2: the car because it was taking a minute, and I 1119 00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 2: was just like I could I know, I was like 1120 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 2: I don't want to. Yeah, Like, but they're wearing hard 1121 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell is he doing in there? 1122 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 2: Like has there been a robbery? Can I get a 1123 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 2: well check that something about it? And he's in the 1124 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 2: dressing room like trying to find like Alan a little 1125 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 2: mark polo with the Scottish guy, and then like he 1126 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 2: goes to the shoes. Actually, no, we gotta go come on. Yeah, 1127 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 2: I can you imagine if Cinderella popped off his little 1128 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 2: man slipper and we went through that. It's just so 1129 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 2: funny because I haven't like everything I've done that he's 1130 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 2: done has been like so cute, not this one, you know, 1131 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 2: And so I was just like, I think he says 1132 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 2: he's going to go shopping. Yeah, he's so he's way 1133 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 2: more stylish than I am. Like, well, he's just very 1134 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 2: I what I've gained from my time with Alan is 1135 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 2: he's a pretty thorough and intentional guy. 1136 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1137 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 2: Is His pace seems not rushed ever, never rushed, never 1138 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 2: ever rushed. 1139 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1140 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 2: And I'm like, let's go go, go, go, go, go, 1141 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 2: go go go. Yeah. And I'm learning to slow down 1142 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 2: with him. But I think that's actually like his the 1143 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 2: culture over there is so much slower and calmer and 1144 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,439 Speaker 2: content and right and all so like now, like when 1145 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 2: he goes to like the gros Strum, like have a 1146 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 2: great time, and I know I'll see him like an 1147 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 2: hour and a half, you know, like that, like I 1148 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 2: just won't go now, yeah, yeah, I don't go because 1149 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is but yeah. So it was just 1150 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 2: funny because I was I was chuckling to myself and 1151 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 2: I was just there it is. There's nothing again, nothing bad. 1152 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 2: It was just that that first thing that I was like, oh, yeah, 1153 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 2: now I know. Yeah, I gotta tell you I have 1154 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 2: zero interest in ever being in my underwear under those 1155 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 2: lights ever again. Ever, well, I think it might be 1156 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 2: a female thing too, but maybe so I don't like yeah, 1157 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 2: but anyways, sorry tangent. I just had to that's very interesting. 1158 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 2: Did Well, this has been fun. We'll see you next week, 1159 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 2: ya I