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Speaker 2: We have to rise above challenges and find strength in

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Speaker 3: We are in a battle of poor, birth of evil.

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Speaker 5: They do to me.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to keep calling them out.

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Speaker 1: They're berserk, trying to disarm Americans, and we need to

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Speaker 7: Glad you're fighting for America.

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Speaker 8: There's always hope.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outsider, because it's

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Speaker 10: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to faith and freedom everyone. I'm Shamaine Nugent. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for joining me. If you tuned in

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Speaker 2: last week, then you know that Ted received the Defender

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Speaker 2: of Freedom Award at mar A Lago this past week

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Speaker 2: and it was such a wonderful experience celebrating Ted's hard

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Speaker 7: And I want to show you a little bit of

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Speaker 6: Take a look.

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Speaker 7: Tends a man of action. He is a fighter.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, gentlemen.

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Speaker 11: Tomorrow, look for such a time as this settlements America's seizures.

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Speaker 11: Hard to present.

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Speaker 3: Ten big, we made big, Ted, we made big property.

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Speaker 3: You are so beautiful. How long are you married?

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Speaker 7: How long are you married?

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Speaker 3: Thirty six years? Oh, I wish you didn't say that.

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Speaker 8: Rock and roll in rock and roll, Yeah, tell you

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Speaker 7: It's like, don here, So you're time second death.

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Speaker 9: That's a great well, it's a great coup one loyalty

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Speaker 3: Great great person, really great person, great couple. Thank you

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Speaker 7: It was so much fun.

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Speaker 10: What a great moment.

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Speaker 7: We're never going to forget it. Really.

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Speaker 2: But ever since President Trump's inauguration and it's taken extensive measures,

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Speaker 2: President Trump has really sought out number one to secure

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Speaker 2: the southern border, which he campaigned on, and since his inauguration,

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Speaker 2: the number of godaways has fallen ninety seven percent, and

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Speaker 2: agent and author of the new book Treason, the Biden

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining me.

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Speaker 12: Oh, thank you very much for having me. What a

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Speaker 12: great intro to to see your husband received that award.

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Speaker 12: That's great, it was.

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Speaker 7: It was really special.

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Speaker 2: So reports show that the number of godaways, you know,

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Speaker 2: has been reduced by ninety three percent since President Trump's inauguration.

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Speaker 7: What specific policies are being put in place.

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Speaker 12: Boy, he's doing what we've done for ninety six out

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Speaker 12: of the one hundred years, and those four years that

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Speaker 12: you won't believe it. Day one that we had military

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but JJ, what's going to happen? You know, we

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Speaker 12: I'm hoping somebody said that. I'm very I have great

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Speaker 12: We're not talking about Jimmy Carter and having a bad

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Speaker 5: Right, you don't have to like his.

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Speaker 12: Policies, But Biden was malicious. Biden did this intentionally, strategically

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Speaker 5: The way it needs to be.

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Speaker 12: When you commit a crime, you have to have consequences.

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Speaker 12: And I know Trump knows this, and Trump knows that

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Speaker 12: Regroups can become stronger, more financially solvent, fixes all the problems.

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Speaker 5: They come back sevenfold, ready to destroy the good.

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Speaker 12: And if we don't crush this, and you don't have

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Speaker 12: to believe in God, but you have to understand from

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Speaker 12: This is God versus Satan. There's no other way around it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, one hundred percent. And I am so excited that

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Speaker 2: Cash got in. Let's talk about your book and why

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Speaker 2: our audience needs to understand the damage that the previous

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Speaker 12: Well, when I sat down to write my book, Treason,

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Speaker 12: showing a spotlight on everything I wrote about. USAID funneled

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Speaker 12: billions of dollars down south to international NGOs to bring

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Speaker 12: I'm doing the same with American public. I'm saying, here

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Speaker 12: have committed treason against America. And I don't say this lightly, ma'am.

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Speaker 12: maximum penalty for trees and is death.

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Speaker 5: So I don't say it flippantly. But those people that

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Speaker 12: They are brought in front of a trial of their

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Speaker 12: to people that lost four point seven trillion dollars in

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Speaker 12: For Biden, I mean, can we just all stop the

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Speaker 5: No, we live in times of good versus evil.

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Speaker 7: That's it, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And I know one of your passion projects is discussing

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Speaker 12: Well, yes, and Ryan Matt and I did a documentary

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Speaker 12: children trafficked into America came from Guatemala. Who was on

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Speaker 5: Her name was Jill Biden.

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Speaker 12: Jill Biden the federal government Guatemala Save the Children. Ten

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Speaker 12: Does that sound familiar to anything else that we've lived through?

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Speaker 5: That would be Ukraine.

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Speaker 12: They use the same playbook to cover up Hunter Biden

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Speaker 12: This is an international coup. This is the last taboo

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Speaker 12: that is raping children. And our government facilitated over five

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Speaker 12: they've lost them all. Inspector General in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 12: I'm telling you that they're all gone. And I will

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Speaker 12: And he says, quote a lot.

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Speaker 5: Of them are already dead. And I agree with them.

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Speaker 2: You know, we lose our cell phones, and the other

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Speaker 10: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

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Speaker 14: The US has the lowest life expectancy in.

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Speaker 14: Forty percent are obese, sixty percent have a chronic illness,

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Speaker 5: How we got here.

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Speaker 2: Charlene Bollinger is the co creator of This As We Was,

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm excited too. I'm excited to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for doing what you're doing. Thank you for

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Speaker 7: So you have come to the Kingdom, Charlene for such

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Speaker 2: Before we get into I want to hear everything about

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Speaker 7: What are your thoughts? I mean, let's go.

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Speaker 15: That's a great start, and I think that we've got

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Speaker 15: And we have both been blocked. We're both on that

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Speaker 15: I couldn't be more excited to share the film Unpacked

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Speaker 15: to help the children to fight obesity. Right there, that's obesity.

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Speaker 15: We have a problem with obesity and chronic disease, mental illness,

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Speaker 15: They need to be on a program to eat healthy foods.

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Speaker 15: They don't need to be vaccinated with agents that even

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Speaker 5: What is in the shot?

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Speaker 15: We have the science and the studies and the lawsuits

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Speaker 15: and the movie features the Healing Remedy, which is really

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I can't wait to see it because

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Speaker 2: This is right up my alley, So I'm very excited.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: One thing I want to I want to hit on

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Edward Breneis, who is Sigmund Freud's nephew who

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Speaker 2: basically invented modern propaganda and mass persuasion. Do you think, Charlene,

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Speaker 15: One hundred percent, Chamaine, You're going to love the film.

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Speaker 15: We get into what you're saying, and we show him

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Speaker 15: on the David Letterman Show talking about, you know, how

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Speaker 15: it's being used through Operation mocking Bird, the CIA operation

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Speaker 15: these people that are only script readers. And the reason

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Speaker 15: I love your show is you're not just reading scripts.

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Speaker 15: You're actually helping your viewers to learn what really is

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Speaker 15: happening that they're working to cover up. The propaganda is

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Speaker 15: He updated it and he added in there, well, we

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Speaker 15: And so absolutely, one hundred percent to directly answer your question,

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Speaker 7: That effect, and he said, well, you know, they believe

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Speaker 2: What is how can we discern truth from fiction and

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Speaker 15: We have created so many films to help people. We

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Speaker 8: Pray.

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Speaker 15: God promises James one to five to give wisdom to

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Speaker 7: God is faithful.

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Speaker 15: He wants you to know and live in the truth.

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Speaker 3: It's the truth.

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Speaker 15: It sets us free. Jesus Christ himself is the truth.

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Speaker 15: This movie is filled with shocking truths. You can't watch

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Speaker 7: It's free. There's no reason not to watch it.

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Speaker 10: Go to Unpack the Lives dot com.

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Speaker 15: Watch the film and streaming right now.

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Speaker 4: Free and share it with everybody.

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Speaker 8: It is the truth.

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Speaker 2: Charlene, what's next for you? Do you have another documentary

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Speaker 8: I do.

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Speaker 15: It's going to be a bomb, but I can't say

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we are.

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Speaker 2: You better text me because now I can't. I'm going

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Speaker 2: last quick question, how did you get here? I only

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Speaker 15: In nineteen ninety five, I saw the movie Braveheart. I

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Speaker 15: We released our first book, Cancer Step Outside the Box.

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Speaker 15: Mom and we knew the truth that I looked into

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Speaker 7: Save a whole lot of lives.

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Speaker 15: And you know what, We've been used by God to

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Speaker 7: Charlene Bolinger, thank you so much for joining me. God

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Speaker 5: You change the world.

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Speaker 10: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

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Speaker 7: Okay, we are out for our daily celebrating the great squirrel,

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Speaker 2: A lot of people realize that we are hunters out

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Speaker 2: We're going to actually go home and have a ribby

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Speaker 7: We've pulled it out to.

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Speaker 1: swear we believe in this stuff. And what goes into

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Speaker 1: the Sacred Temple determines your quality of life and health

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Speaker 1: and quality beef. Like switch to America with Jamaine beef

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Speaker 1: is the.

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Speaker 5: Best you can eat.

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Speaker 7: Now, Jackson's way up there. We got to go catch them.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're living in a time of good versus evil,

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Speaker 2: where faith and freedom are under attack, but there is hope.

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Speaker 2: President Trump signed an executive order establishing the White House

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Speaker 2: Faith Office, a bold step to strengthen faith based organizations

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Speaker 2: and defend religious liberty and combat anti Semitism, anti Christian sentiment,

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Speaker 2: and all forms of religious persecution. With me now to

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Speaker 2: discuss this further as the host of Church and State

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Speaker 2: Pastor Lucas Miles Lucas, thanks.

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Speaker 7: So much for being here.

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Speaker 8: Hey, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 7: Good to see you.

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Speaker 2: So President Trump signed this executive order to establish a

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Speaker 2: White House Faith Office.

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Speaker 7: How amazing is that? But tell me what is the entail.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, look, this is very exciting.

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Speaker 13: I mean there have been iterations of this over the years.

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Speaker 13: We saw this with the Bush administration, and really it's

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Speaker 13: been kind of some iteration since then that the White

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Speaker 13: House has maintained.

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Speaker 8: But I think what we are seeing with President Trump

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Speaker 8: is we're seeing really.

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Speaker 13: A return to historical, biblical primary doctrine. I've worked and

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Speaker 13: interacted with the Faith Office already. They seem committed to

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Speaker 13: be getting biblically minded individuals together in the room to

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Speaker 13: think about policy, to think about religious freedom, and I

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Speaker 13: think we need a lot more of this. This isn't

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Speaker 13: about one particular denomination. I think it's really about circling

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Speaker 13: the wagon and trying to just hear from Christians in

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Speaker 13: America so our voices can be heard. And I'm sure

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Speaker 13: they're doing the other things outside of that. I don't,

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Speaker 13: by no means do I speak for the Faith Office,

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Speaker 13: but as somebody on the outside who's had some engagement,

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Speaker 13: I'm very excited about what's taking place, and I think

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Speaker 13: that this is the right move by President Trump.

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Speaker 7: And are you going to be involved, Lucas, So I.

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Speaker 13: Have no formal involvement at this time, I'll say that,

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Speaker 13: but I'm happy to be a resource and asset to

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Speaker 13: them however it's needed. But have a lot of friends

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Speaker 13: that are in the room there on a very consistent basis,

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Speaker 13: and I'm sure I will be you know, involved in

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Speaker 13: some you know capacity in terms of you know, just

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Speaker 13: just being a resource with our work at TPUSA Faith.

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Speaker 13: So we're very close to them and happy to be

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Speaker 13: friends to what's happening there, and so we'll help out

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Speaker 13: however we needed.

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Speaker 7: It's not like you're bored, right, We've got to fabably

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Speaker 7: going on for sure.

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Speaker 13: But you know, look, I think we have similar goals

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Speaker 13: the work that I'm doing with Charlie Kirk with TPOSA Faith.

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Speaker 13: I think it's very you know, hand in love with

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Speaker 13: what's happening there at the Faith Office. And you know,

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Speaker 13: we're being very effective with being boots on the ground

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Speaker 13: calling on pastors around the country. We work with pastors

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Speaker 13: who are Charismatic and Reformed and Baptists and Presbyterian and

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Speaker 13: you know all in between a lot of Calvary Chapel

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Speaker 13: churches and we're seeing some great things take place. And

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Speaker 13: so I think that we can be a great resource

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Speaker 13: and asset to the Faith Office, and we're here to

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Speaker 13: do that however is needed. And so we'll leave that

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Speaker 13: ball in their court, you know, in terms of if

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Speaker 13: they want to call on us to assist with anything.

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Speaker 8: But we're for them and we're we're excited about what's

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Speaker 8: taking place.

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Speaker 2: What is the main issue that you'd like to see

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Speaker 2: President Trump in this new Faith Office address.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Look, I think that it's very important that you know,

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Speaker 13: when you talk about church and state issues that my

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Speaker 13: philosophy is this, we want the church to always be

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Speaker 13: far enough away from the state the state cannot tell

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Speaker 13: it what to do.

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Speaker 8: I don't think that there's any of us as.

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Speaker 13: Clergy who are really interested in having the state dictate

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Speaker 13: anything that we're doing within the church or our Christian

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Speaker 13: leadership or principles or doctrines or anything like that. What

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Speaker 13: we do want, though, is we want the church close

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Speaker 13: enough to the state to be a conscience for the state.

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Speaker 13: And so I honestly think it's more about what the

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Speaker 13: church can do for the nation rather than what the

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Speaker 13: nation can do for the church. And I think that

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Speaker 13: we have to frame it like that to start with.

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Speaker 13: Of course, there's issues that I think that we want

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Speaker 13: to be heard on issues of religious liberty and freedom,

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Speaker 13: issues of persecution around the world, we're seen. I just

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Speaker 13: saw a story here out of I think it was

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Speaker 13: Western Africa where they found a group I didn't want

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Speaker 13: to say, like it was seventy or ninety Christians that

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Speaker 13: were beheaded, you know, by a terrorist group there. We

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Speaker 13: want to see a stop to those things as much

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Speaker 13: as we're able, and so we're looking for the White.

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Speaker 8: House to really speak on behalf of the persecuted church.

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Speaker 13: But ultimately, I think as believers we want to be

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Speaker 13: an assist to the state and really speak into policies

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Speaker 13: that are that are coming out to make sure that

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Speaker 13: I think biblical values are promoted as much as possible.

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Speaker 2: There's no question there's been a shift since President Trump

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Speaker 2: was elected.

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Speaker 7: It feels like we can come out of the closet, so.

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Speaker 2: To speak, and talk about faith more often and not

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Speaker 2: be embarrassed talk about God, family, and country and what

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Speaker 2: the founding fathers based this country on.

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Speaker 7: So I'm grateful for one.

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Speaker 2: That you and Charlie Kirk and so many others have

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Speaker 2: been bold and brave and stepped out and taking the

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Speaker 2: reins and started you go all over the country right.

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Speaker 13: I'm traveling quite a bit right now, honestly, and it's

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Speaker 13: been very exciting. I still preach at a church myself,

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Speaker 13: so my church is based just outside of South Bend,

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Speaker 13: Indiana influenced church.

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Speaker 8: We'll give those guys a shout out.

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Speaker 13: But I'm on the road a lot during the week,

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Speaker 13: and so very thankful to have a team that understands

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Speaker 13: kind of what I'm doing locally as well as what

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Speaker 13: I'm doing nationally. I'm regularly meeting with pastors across this country,

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Speaker 13: many whom are are household names for many Americans, and

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Speaker 13: meeting with them, talking to them about the issues, getting

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Speaker 13: them really on the board to maintain strong Biblical values

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Speaker 13: in their pulpit. So many pastors have been afraid to

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Speaker 13: speak out on issues, and so we're really trying to

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Speaker 13: to speak, and encourage them to stand strong and not

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Speaker 13: to give into these things. And we're seeing some turn

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Speaker 13: I just had a call actually here just recently from

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Speaker 13: that had previously I had deep concerns about them kind

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Speaker 13: of going woke, and they said it's been just night

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Speaker 13: and day difference. They've said things have totally changed and

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Speaker 13: totally turned around.

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Speaker 8: They were very excited about that. And so the tide

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Speaker 8: is changing.

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Speaker 13: And I think that the work that we're doing and

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Speaker 13: what we've been pushing on is really starting to take shape.

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Speaker 13: And I think it's a good time in America to

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to go here if

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Speaker 2: you can talk about it, but how can you be

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Speaker 2: a Christian.

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Speaker 7: And be for abortion?

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Speaker 13: So great question, you know, and I get the same

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Speaker 13: iteration of that, maybe you know, can you be a

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Speaker 13: Christian and be a Democrat or something like that? And

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Speaker 13: I would say, you know, probably a very similar answer

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Speaker 13: that you. I'm not here to decide who's saved and

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Speaker 13: not saved, And when we're talking about how can you

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Speaker 13: be a Christian and think that way, that's really what

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Speaker 13: we're saying.

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Speaker 8: But I am.

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Speaker 13: I do think that from a biblical standpoint, that we

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Speaker 13: have the ability to talk about discipleship. And I would

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Speaker 13: say that a disciple of Jesus is not somebody who

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Speaker 13: is going to be pro choice. A disciple of Jesus

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Speaker 13: is not somebody who is going to support the innocent

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Speaker 13: slaughter of the unborn. And so if somebody's interested in

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Speaker 13: being a disciple and not just having you know, I

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Speaker 13: said the prayer, and I've got fire insurance for eternity

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Speaker 13: because I you know, I said that, you know, the

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Speaker 13: sinner's prayer. I'm interested in being a disciple of Jesus,

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Speaker 13: and a disciple of Jesus submits to his ways.

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Speaker 8: To biblical truth.

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Speaker 13: We build and base our lives around the teachings of

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Speaker 13: Jesus and the teachings we find in the scripture.

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Speaker 8: And I think the scriptures are very clear.

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Speaker 13: On the issue of life, and it is a resounding

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Speaker 13: that God is for life, He's pro life. And we

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Speaker 13: have innocent children that have been made in the image

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Speaker 13: of God that are being slaughtered. And this is something

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Speaker 13: that that you know, we all prey. I think that

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Speaker 13: that stops.

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Speaker 2: We had JJ Carroll, who has done a documentary and

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Speaker 2: a couple of documentaries and written books about human trafficking

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Speaker 2: and how horrific it is. I never imagined I went

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Speaker 2: down the route hole, so to speak, about five years

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Speaker 2: ago and discovered I can't even I can't even fathom

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Speaker 2: the number of children that have gone missing, especially in

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Speaker 2: the previous administration.

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Speaker 7: How how does this happen? How did we get here?

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Speaker 13: Look, I mean, I won't I won't pretend to be,

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Speaker 13: you know, a complete expert on how the trafficking process,

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Speaker 13: you know, what's all involved in that. Obviously a poorest

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Speaker 13: southern border is a major part of it. And so

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Speaker 13: you know, I think my understanding is a lot of

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Speaker 13: this is driven by cartels, it's driven by u you know,

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Speaker 13: probably to some extents, elites, it's driven by you know,

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Speaker 13: foreign money, things like that. And so this is where

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Speaker 13: I think that this administration and the work that they're

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Speaker 13: doing is so important to root out corruption, to to

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Speaker 13: make sure and string than the southern border so that

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Speaker 13: our nation is more protected. And we really have to understand,

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Speaker 13: you know, where where foreign money is coming from, and

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Speaker 13: what it's, what it's for, and what it's causing, who

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Speaker 13: it's empowering. And I think that that we need eyes.

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Speaker 8: On that more than ever.

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Speaker 13: And so look, this is this is I've got a

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Speaker 13: lot of hope that the current administration is taking some

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Speaker 13: steps to change the tide on this, but this is

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Speaker 13: a systemic issue that's been going on for a long time,

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Speaker 13: and I think really was worsened under the last administration,

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Speaker 13: and we've got a lot of work to do. And

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Speaker 13: this where the church, everybody plays a part being vigilant,

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Speaker 13: giving the causes that are helping.

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Speaker 8: To you know, put an end to this once and

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Speaker 8: for all. And so this is I think is a

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Speaker 8: very important issue for a lot of us.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like, you know, we can't rest now

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Speaker 2: now we've really got to work. Even with President Trump,

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Speaker 2: we're all waiting for that, for him to come back

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Speaker 2: into office.

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Speaker 8: Now the work begins, right you know, we we have

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Speaker 8: a saying that TPUSA Faith.

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Speaker 13: Our slogan right now is faith Forward, and I think

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Speaker 13: that's really the response. Yes, there was a tremendous victory

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Speaker 13: for this country. You feel like God did a miracle

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Speaker 13: in many ways, is in not only sparing you know,

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Speaker 13: President Trump's life, but this historic election. You know, it's

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Speaker 13: it's the dawn of of course, the Golden Age as

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Speaker 13: we're calling it. But I think that we need to

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Speaker 13: recognize that how we move forward from this, we have

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Speaker 13: to have faith in mind. It has to be part

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Speaker 13: of the process. Godless conservatism is not going to save

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Speaker 13: this country. It has to be conservatism with a return

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Speaker 13: to a biblical framework. There's there's a lot of people

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Speaker 13: that probably call themselves or think about themselves politically as conservatives,

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Speaker 13: but they still don't have a relationship with the Lord.

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Speaker 13: And I don't believe that that is going to last

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Speaker 13: where it's going to take us where we want it

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Speaker 13: to go. Conservatism that lasts, and that it's going to

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Speaker 13: be good for the nation. The Bible says that when

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Speaker 13: the righteous prosper, the city rejoices. And I think that

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Speaker 13: as as biblically minded people that you know, we're going

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Speaker 13: to see that here in this nation. As Christians continue

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Speaker 13: to prosper in this nation, as the Gospel prospers in

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Speaker 13: this nation, the city will respond with rejoicing as righteous

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Speaker 13: policies are put in place and enacted.

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Speaker 2: Pastor Lucas Miles, thanks for joining me. Tell Chrissy, I

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Speaker 2: said hello, I will do.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much. Great to see you as always,

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Speaker 8: good to see you.

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Speaker 7: God bless don't go away everyone, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 9: There's the opportuner need to be an outside because it's

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Speaker 9: the outside is to change the world.

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Speaker 10: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

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Speaker 9: Willers the opportunity to be an outside because it's the

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Speaker 9: outside is to change the world.

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Speaker 10: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.

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Speaker 2: This show Faith and Freedom is not just about freedom

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Speaker 2: in politics and in government. It's about health freedom, and

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Speaker 2: we've got to take control. As my previous guests have

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Speaker 2: said about our own health, and my sponsors from Mike

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Speaker 2: I have to remind myself sometimes to drink water.

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Speaker 7: I really do, I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: But when I drink more water, when I drink enough

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Speaker 2: water that my body needs, I feel better. You've got

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Speaker 2: to get the right water, though, because unfortunately, if you

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Speaker 2: just drink tapwater city water, they're putting all kinds of

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Speaker 2: things in it, from mRNA to volatile organic compounds, to

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Speaker 2: other pharmaceutical drugs, and maybe just a little bit of

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Speaker 2: arsenic too. Go to centry h two oh dot com

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Speaker 2: and check out the system and see if it's not

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Speaker 2: Know that an estimated fifteen thousand American stores are projected

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Speaker 2: to shut down.

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Speaker 7: In twenty twenty five, just twenty twenty five alone.

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Speaker 2: As local stores disappear, communities lose not just retail spaces,

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Speaker 2: but also economic independence and jobs and the personal touch

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Speaker 2: that small businesses bring. My next guest is a strong

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Speaker 2: woman who has built her business from the ground up.

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Speaker 2: Kate A Serf is the founder and CEO of Dip

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Speaker 2: Sustainable hair Care, and she's built her company from the

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Speaker 2: ground up, all without the help of a big box store.

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Speaker 7: Kate, thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me here. It's really

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Speaker 4: it's really nice to talk to someone with such beautiful hair.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just feeling with my hair thinking I need

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Speaker 2: Kate's products, so I got in try them.

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Speaker 7: Tell me, tell me about why you did this.

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Speaker 2: You built your company from the ground up without the

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Speaker 2: help of big box stores.

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Speaker 7: How'd you do that?

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Speaker 4: Well, honestly, I took a page out of you know,

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Speaker 4: a page out of Sarah Blakeley's book where she just

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Speaker 4: went around with a backpack and went to stores and

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Speaker 4: met people where they were. And what I noticed was

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Speaker 4: that in sustainability especially, people are tired of sustainability. They're

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Speaker 4: tired of hearing that you should be plastic free but

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Speaker 4: not having really good options.

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Speaker 7: And so I.

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Speaker 4: Basically built my company out of this frustration of people,

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Speaker 4: you know, that that emotion of trying to do the

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Speaker 4: right thing and buying something plastic free and then only

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Speaker 4: to feel burned that you've paid more for something that

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Speaker 4: wasn't great. And so with DIP, I knew that I

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Speaker 4: wanted to make plastic free hair care that took people

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Speaker 4: away from something like an orbit or a caristas or

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Speaker 4: purology and saved them a lot of money. So whether

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Speaker 4: you cared about plastic or not, it wasn't the big

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Speaker 4: the biggest deal, right, So with the conditioner bar especially,

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Speaker 4: you saved five hundred dollars a year about if you're

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Speaker 4: moving from really fancy haircare, which is what I was doing.

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Speaker 4: And I knew that the customer that was the most

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Speaker 4: frustrated was the sustainable customer. So I went to where

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Speaker 4: they shop, and I went into zero waste stores, refill

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Speaker 4: stores all over the country and I went to Ohio

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Speaker 4: and went to Georgia. I literally went everywhere and was like,

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Speaker 4: try this. You can try it for free, and if

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Speaker 4: it's not the best plastic free hair care you've ever tried,

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Speaker 4: then you know, don't stock it.

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Speaker 7: And that's how I built it. Basically, I love it.

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Speaker 7: What made you want to get into business? Though? It's

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Speaker 7: a lot of work, especially you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 7: I've got a family, but.

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Speaker 2: It takes a lot of effort. And kudos to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being esther, being bold and brave and

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Speaker 2: getting out there. But what did you want to get

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Speaker 2: into business?

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Speaker 4: Well, to be honest, I found out about the horrors

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Speaker 4: not just of like plastic accumulation around the planet, but

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Speaker 4: what it was doing to our health when I was

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Speaker 4: pregnant with my first son. So I have two sons,

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Speaker 4: the oldest is now nine, and ten years ago when

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Speaker 4: I was pregnant, I read about the horrors of what

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Speaker 4: plastic just drinking out of plastic water bottles to piggyback

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Speaker 4: on your last ad, like what it was doing to

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Speaker 4: our health. And if you know you've had problems with mold,

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Speaker 4: I've had problems with you know, endocrine disruptors and so

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Speaker 4: I knew that the most emotional way to get people interested,

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Speaker 4: for women anyway, who were the shoppers and the family

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Speaker 4: like myself, was through hair. And I know that sounds very,

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Speaker 4: very simple, but I know that you know, having nice

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Speaker 4: hair is something that it's something that you wear every day,

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Speaker 4: and having a shower is a daily reminder of why

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Speaker 4: you were reducing your plastic in the first place. And

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Speaker 4: that was it was really so important to me to

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Speaker 4: reach mothers because I am one, and I think a

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Speaker 4: lot of mothers don't realize how much plastic is disrupting

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Speaker 4: their children's health.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, when I got sick and I went to

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Speaker 2: the Environmental Health Center and Dallas twenty years ago, and

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Speaker 2: that's the first thing they told me is you can't

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Speaker 2: drink out of plastic. And now I see it everywhere,

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Speaker 2: especially in Texas in the summer it's one hundred days

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Speaker 2: of one hundred degrees or more and they have plastic

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Speaker 2: water bottles sitting outside, wrapped in plastic in the hot sun.

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Speaker 2: Do people now realize that the chemicals from the plastic

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Speaker 2: leach into that liquid.

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Speaker 4: I think they did a pretty good job, and I

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Speaker 4: say they but like I think there was a pretty

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Speaker 4: good cover up job where people were blissfully unaware. I

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Speaker 4: remember I was drinking out of a plastic water bottle

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Speaker 4: reading this book about the horrors of plastic, you know,

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Speaker 4: ten years ago, and that's only starting to come really

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Speaker 4: bubble to the surface now. And so you know, as

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Speaker 4: we mentioned, all of these stores are closing around America.

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Speaker 4: And my mission is like bigger than shampoo conditioner. I

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Speaker 4: want people to realize that there are these stores around

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Speaker 4: the country that do the homework for you. They make

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Speaker 4: sure that they're called refill stores and there are zero

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Speaker 4: waste stores. And I've focused on putting my product there

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Speaker 4: so someone can go to a refill store to buy

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Speaker 4: DIP and then they'll be exposed to other options that

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Speaker 4: save them from these endocrine disrupting products that are out

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Speaker 4: there and in almost every product that we use.

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Speaker 7: Wow, that's amazing, Kate. How do we find out where

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Speaker 7: these stores are and more about your product?

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Speaker 4: Sure, if you go to our store locator on dip

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Speaker 4: already dot com, it's d I P A l R

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Speaker 4: E A d y as in dip already, what are

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Speaker 4: you waiting for? You can go to the store locator

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Speaker 4: and you can find the store closest to you that

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Speaker 4: sells dip. And you know, these stores really need our

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Speaker 4: enthusiasm and our help, and I need I need people

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Speaker 4: to know that they exist. Right, None of them have

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Speaker 4: the marketing budget themselves to you know, drive awareness. So

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Speaker 4: I've taken it upon myself to get people aware of

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Speaker 4: refill and zero waste stores and also to just blast

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Speaker 4: out that that without them, you lose a lot of community.

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Speaker 4: You lose a lot of community when this, when the

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Speaker 4: store is in your town shut down.

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Speaker 7: Yep, Kate, thank you so much for joining me, and

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Speaker 7: thank you for being an esther.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: God bless you too. All Right, well you know what

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Speaker 7: time it is. We've always got to end this show

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Speaker 7: with something to make you smile. So take a look.

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Speaker 12: No, not the.

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Speaker 10: Hi Hi.

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Speaker 7: You like rumba.

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Speaker 2: We need more funny pet videos, so you can send

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Speaker 2: yours to Chamaine dot chat at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 7: Something interesting about that roomba have you heard?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird how it kind of always follows you

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Speaker 2: wherever you're going. And then I saw something that it

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Speaker 2: can actually take pictures and videos.

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Speaker 7: So check that out.

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Speaker 2: Do your own research if you haven't already checked out

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Speaker 2: my new book. It's Abundantly Well, that's the name of it,

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Speaker 2: and it's available on Amazon, and it makes a great gift.

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Speaker 2: Everyone wants to be healthier and happier, but it's not

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Speaker 2: always easy. Let's face it, there are cupcakes and pizza.

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Speaker 2: So maybe you can grab a few friends together, get

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Speaker 2: your Abundantly Well books and do the forty day journey

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Speaker 2: together and you can have fun doing it. To get

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Speaker 2: a little girl talk in there, do some praying, and

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Speaker 2: I would love it. I want to hear from you,

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Speaker 2: so send me your emails at Schamaine dot chat at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com.

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Speaker 7: Send me pictures of you and your pets reading my

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Speaker 7: book Abundantly Well. I would love that.

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Speaker 2: And if you've got any funny pet videos against send

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Speaker 2: them to Chamaine dot chat at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 7: Guys, this is such an important show.

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Speaker 2: I'm so blessed to be able to do this, to

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Speaker 2: be able to have real America's voice giving me a voice,

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Speaker 2: because as Esther four fourteen says, if we remain silent

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Speaker 2: at this time, relief and deliverance is going to come

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Speaker 2: from somewhere else. But you and your father's house might perish.

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Speaker 2: Who knows if you have come to the Kingdom for

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Speaker 2: such a time as this, and I always think about

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Speaker 2: that before I do these shows, before I do social media,

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Speaker 2: which by the way, don't go to Facebook because I

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Speaker 2: got hacked on my Facebook, so I'm not on there anymore.

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Speaker 2: My Facebook with the blue check has some random silly videos. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: it really makes me appreciate this opportunity to be able

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Speaker 2: to speak with you, and I want to encourage you

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 7: Esther's, to be bold and brave and to speak truth.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much for joining me. I'll see you

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Speaker 7: right here next week. God bless well.

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Speaker 9: There's the opportunity to be an outside because it's the

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Speaker 9: outside is to change the world.

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Speaker 10: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.