WEBVTT - SWV's Coko on Xscap'ing Drama 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.160 The egos get involved in terms of why this series 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:05.840 is about co headlining, I'm. 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:06.760 Gonna speak to SWB. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.880 I don't feel like it's anything about egos on our part. 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.280 We just want what's fair and what's due to us. 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:14.319 If we're going to do an integrated show, we're doing 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:15.480 an equal amount of work. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:18.720 Why can't it be a co headlining situation. That's it. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:20.720 But if it's not an integrated show, you're going to 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:22.680 do your show, We're going to do our show, then 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:24.919 that's something different. But we were told that it was 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.720 going to be an integrated show, so I don't even 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.639 understand why it's such a big deal about cold headlining. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:43.360 Stay tuned, we'll be right back after these quick ads. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.120 Welcome to Reality with the King. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.199 It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:56.000 one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 0:00:56.080 --> 0:01:00.360 television with over ten years a production experience. Once a 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.080 week from Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.520 my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.080 shows and revisit of forgettable moments that we are still 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:18.240 talking and tweeting about rain drops. It's not every day 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:23.120 when you are in the presence of greatness, when you 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:27.560 are in the presence of a litual, living legend. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.840 Ever since I was a little gay boy in Detroit, Michigan. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.720 I love girl groups. I'm a up set with girl group. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.560 I'm a kind of sewer girl group. I create a 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.080 one called Blueprint. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.360 Yes, encor, I love. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:47.120 Girl groups from TLC to Destiny's Childs. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.360 But of course as w B and I'm here with my. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.760 Love, who I think is one of the greatest R 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.200 and B singers of all time. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.920 Of course I'm talking about Miss Coco Gamble. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:01.040 Yeah. 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.240 Yeah, So look, we've been trying to do this for 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.200 a minute. So I'm so thankful and grateful that we're 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.240 able to finally sit and talk because. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.360 There's a lot going on, Coco, is it? 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:16.080 I even know. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:22.000 I can't even go on social media without hearing about SWV, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.399 escape whole headlining, everything else. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:26.560 So let's get right into it. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:31.520 Obviously, your show, The Queens of R and B is 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.400 a talk of the town. Everybody has a strong opinion 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:40.440 about this show. What made you, Coco want to do 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.280 another reality show? 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.720 But this would be a great idea, Like you always 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.320 see the guys going tour the guy groups the addition 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:50.560 Joe to see. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.000 So I was like, Oh, it would be really nice for. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.720 Some girls to get get together and do it. And 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.880 I don't know if you saw the one twelve Jagged 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.240 Edge show where they had an integrated show, so the 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.040 way it was presented to SWUV it would be something 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:04.280 like that. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.560 So I was like, Oh, that's dope. I can get 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:06.959 with that. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.960 So you know, I wasn't really thinking about the drama 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.600 like that, not really, but I was like, no, it's 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:14.640 gonna be better this time. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:15.560 I was wrong. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.440 Where did things go wrong? Because to your point, as 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.000 a fan of girl groups, and so is a lot 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:27.200 of my listeners, we fought like to have swb an 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:31.840 Escape do a show based on how great the Verses was. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.120 I mean, I was live tween, like, I can't. 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.320 Believe all of these legends are like sinking together when 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:38.720 that versus happened. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.360 Was the popularity of the verses? 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:45.400 What made you, guys decide to do a show about 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:46.280 co headlining? 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.080 The show is not about oh headlighting. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:59.080 You tried it allegedly, mow nuts guy. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:00.280 It was per idea. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.080 She saw versus and she thought that it would be 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.600 a great idea, and so the way. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.280 She explained it, I was like, yeah, that would be 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.040 a great idea for sw being escaped to do a show. 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:14.240 The show's supposed to be about us preparing you guys 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.320 get to see behind the scenes of how we do 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.880 the rehearsal, the decisions we have to make, and things 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:20.920 of that nature. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:22.760 That's what it was supposed to feel us. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.960 So what is it about now that you're surprised about. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:27.600 The cod headlining. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.760 When we were asked to do it, we were told 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.160 that it was like going to be a co headlining situation. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.200 So we were like, cool, let's get in here and 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.960 let's do this. Let's show them that women can work together. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.960 Did egos get involved in terms of why this series 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.160 is about co headlining. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:45.480 I'm gonna speak for SWB. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.599 I don't feel like it's anything about egos on our part. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.000 We just want what's fair and what's due to us. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.000 If we're going to do an integrated show, we're do 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.159 an equal amount of work, why can't it be a 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:56.640 co headline of situation. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:57.440 That's it. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.440 But if it's not an integrated show, you're going to 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.479 do your show, do our show, then that's something different. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.000 But we were told that it was going to be 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:07.320 an integrated show, so I don't even understand why it's 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.360 such a big deal about co headlining. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.200 So as we're seeing with this season, a lot of 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:16.000 the girls are having conversation about the reasoning behind why 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.640 Escape feels that they deserve to be the top building. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.400 Tiny said that courtesy of her and Candy having hit 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.400 reality shows, that the relevancy is more there, which is 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.000 why they sell out. Obviously, you are a part of 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.359 a group that has sold two to three times. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:35.000 It's more than them. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.800 When Tiny made her rationale about the reality show being 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:44.440 relevant to them selling out and deserving to be top billing, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:45.680 what were your thoughts in that? 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.240 I disagree. I totally disagree. 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.560 I didn't even know like the social media because they 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.280 brought up social media as well, they have more followers 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:53.760 or whatever. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.000 I didn't even know that was a thing. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.960 And if we were talking about TV, yes, you got 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.400 that all day girls, you're the queen of TV. But 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.839 when it comes to music, I feel like that's something different. 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.240 You know, s w b weed them girls. 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.520 You said multiple times that back in the day, Day Day, Honeymoons, 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.640 cacll you think get the girls together. Oh my god, 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.680 the old Coco would have done what compared to what 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:22.120 the new Cocoa is doing now. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.359 I would have been just arguing the whole from the 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.440 first time we started filming to the end. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:28.880 But it's tyrant. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.800 I didn't want, you know. I really was trying my 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.000 best to make things work out. Like I said, I 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.800 still feel like it's a great idea, something that has 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.640 not been done. We could have been like the new 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.440 Age spice girls, you know what I mean. And I 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.120 just felt like, you know what, me getting upset and 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.080 going crazy is not gonna solve anything, So I'm gonna 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.320 just chill out. Unus, I was medicated, so I was 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.320 just chilling out, you know, and Tad would be talking 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.120 to me, you know, we're gonna do it like this. 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.239 We're gonna do it like that because she's more level headed. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:58.920 And that's what we were trying to do. We were 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.719 just trying to keep it cute. We don't want no drama, 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.359 no problems. We want what we feel we deserve and 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:04.800 that's it. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:06.040 Not to put words in your mouth. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.400 A lot of people have said that the egos and 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.720 escape is the reason why they always have issues. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.360 Do you agree with that they have issues? 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.440 That they have to work out. I don't know if 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.560 it's egos. They've known each other since they were kids, 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.720 so I feel like maybe it stems from way back then. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.360 But I don't learn. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:26.880 About a lot of this stuff until we just started 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.880 filming s W. We have our own issues. I can't 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:30.720 really deal with this. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.920 Do you believe that you sign on to do a 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.080 show and you got bamboozled and the intention of it. 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.600 I can't say we got bamboozled because we know with 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.080 every reality show it has to be some drama. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.760 I just didn't expect it to be this much drama. 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.760 You know, I live a regular life, so I just 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.920 wake up every Monday morning and I'm in another blog. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.400 I'm like hot, damn again. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.320 But you leave me alone already, damn. You know my 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.880 group on an easy going We just chilled for the 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.160 most part. You don't see us in a lot of drama. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:09.440 What personal stuff came out that you feel like was 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.440 just too much about how. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:15.320 Much we supposedly get paid. You got people googling how 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.240 much we get paid. Don't trust Google, Honey, we get paid. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.720 How I make more than the girls? They have to 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:25.760 split fifty percent? Like that's unnecessary to me, Like, we 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.240 don't have to throw dirty jazz really, like, that's not 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.240 lady Like. I don't like that part because we're not 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.640 doing that. We're not being nasty and dirty and putting 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.360 out people's personal information. We're not We're not doing that. 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.959 It's untrue, s w equal, But why is it anybody's business? 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.400 When you saw that Lee was getting into it with 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.280 op Bar over Twitter? 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.640 What was you thinking about when all of that was 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:51.160 on the phone me? 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.920 Because it definitely got a lot of press and a 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.719 lot of clad backs happened after it. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.439 I'm surprised because, like I said, Lely though she minds 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.319 her business, she doesn't get into anything. And she was like, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:03.600 don't be mad at. 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:03.959 Me, y'all. 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.040 But I said something. We were like, because I'm not 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.040 on Twitter, I was like, what did you say? Then 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:13.439 I see it in the blogs. I'm like, oh goodness, 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.079 why are you arguing with her? 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.440 Like do you even know her? 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:17.880 Like? 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:19.640 Who cares? 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.840 So it was more surprising because it was Lee and 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.200 Leely's like she's real chilling and laid back. 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:26.960 We just try to tell her just let it go. 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.280 Who cares? People gonna think what they want to think. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.360 They're gonna believe what they want to believe. But we 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.280 know the truth and that's what matters. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.840 One thing we all love about you is you have 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.960 always been somebody that has defended yourself. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:40.240 You have admitted that. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.280 Look back in the day, they day, I was the 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:46.199 girl who liked to clap back. I am surprised that 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:51.199 there was even a conversation about someone headlining a tour 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:55.360 because the spirit of the verses was the fact that 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.280 it was a celebration of two iconic groups in their 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.240 own right, and none of you y'all fed into the 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:05.120 fans saying this person won this group one. Y'all don't 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:06.840 feed into that, because it was more so like. 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.920 We all had fun. But when it comes to the 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:11.199 group was. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.280 Something that I think all of us felt was so simple. 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.160 It was sort of like, we both are fire in 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.640 our own right. Well, what was sad to me was 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:25.040 that the commonality of we are both excellent, and we 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:29.200 look at the stats, SWB arguably has the bigger hits 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.880 if we just focus on Billboard, if we focus on 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.240 nothing else and just Billboard, you guys have the bigger hits. 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.119 And that's why to me, I thought it was amazing 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:43.280 of escape to say, according to Billboard Bigger Hits, we 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.760 also bring this to the table, and how beautiful it 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.040 would be to show the world because if we're going 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.839 to talk about female empowerment and we're going to talk 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:57.120 about we always lead with supporting women and doing things 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:01.240 for the fans. Why couldn't that be the common ground? 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.000 That was my process into it was that yours too. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:09.160 I totally agree. We're doing this woman empowerment things, sisterhood, 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.200 you know, we loving on each other. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.000 Why does it even. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.640 Matter about the Oh we got a headline because we're 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:16.200 on TV. 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.960 Huh, Like, is this what this is about? 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:21.640 Because y'all should have told me that before I signed 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.600 the contract, you know, I you know, I done left 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.720 my home to come out here and do this, and this. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.760 Is what we're doing. I can't even go home now. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.280 Yeah, Like I was all ready to just you know, 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:35.960 get to know the other ladies. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.240 You know, I know Tasha, she and I we are friends. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:39.079 We've been friends for. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.640 A minute, and I was really ready to get to 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.400 know the other ladies and just you know, I guess 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:45.480 make some new friends. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.040 But honey, it did not work out that way. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.640 Who are you friends with? Right? Now from Escape, Tasha, 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.040 why aren't you friends with the other group members? 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.439 Tasha and I were friends before the show. We were 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.920 friends before Versus, Like, she's the one that called me 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.480 convinced me to do Versus because I didn't want to 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.840 do Versus. She's like, come on, let's do it for 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.559 the culture. So I did Versus. We talked before filming 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.080 this show. You know, we both had some reservations, but 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.360 I think Tasha and I kind of clicked because we 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.679 both understand each other. Like I've been in her shoes before, 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.400 where I've had people being together just simply because they 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.920 disliked me, you know, for one reason or another. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:26.080 So I kind of feel her. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.400 I feel like she understands me, and that's why we've 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.120 been friends for as long as we have been. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.240 And based on your experience on the reality show, uniform 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.080 of friendship with the other members. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.520 No, because I never really was around the other members. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:40.480 I didn't even get to see Tasha as much. Why 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.960 we were filming, Like we were talking on the phone, but 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.640 that was about it. It was so busy and I 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.120 was flying back and forth from Atlanta to Virginia, so 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:50.199 it was crazy. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:56.079 Speaking of Tasha, she has become a meme on social media. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.520 Yeah, and Tasha has. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:03.800 Been accused of allegedly stealing thirty thousand dollars from her 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:08.600 sister Tamika. Tasha has definitely been villainized on the show. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.000 You know Tasha personally, how is she doing. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.160 She's doing the best that she can with what everything 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:16.840 that she's dealing with, you know. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:17.760 But I talked to her. 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.440 I try to uplift her and encourage her, you know, 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.800 just so she can keep going and keep her head 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.720 up because she's really like bothered. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.360 She's bothered. Who wouldn't be bothered? No, she's human. So 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.520 I just try to just uplift her and be a 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:32.280 friend for her. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.680 In the ear, I'm honest with her as well, you know, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.520 that's what sisters do, friends, that's where we are. I 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.600 just pray for her, you know, and she don't need 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.680 another enemy, So I'm not trying to be that. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:44.959 I'm her friend. And that's just it. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.640 Based on you watching the show, because obviously a lot 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.320 of the scenes that she's going through with Tamika was 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.920 filmed personally based on the fact that you do know her, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.640 you two are friends, and now you have to watch 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.440 what's being said about her on the show. What conclusion 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.600 have you come up with in terms of her treatment? 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.280 Do you feel like it's something to where she does 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:04.880 not deserve? 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.680 And this is not ta Tasha that you've been knowing 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:07.560 for so many years. 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.560 It's not Tatasha that I know. You know how reality 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.640 TV were? How do you If you give it to them, 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.240 they gonna use it. So if you sit up there 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.360 making them faces, they're gonna use it. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.280 I've been there before. They give me every time, making 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.000 them faces, both of us. They gonna use it. But 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.680 you know, when you feel me, you forget. 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:29.360 The cameras in it sometimes, so you just like, yeah, whatever, No, 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.560 I think it's unfair, you know, because she's really a 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.600 good person. And I just so I really don't like 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.120 how they doing her. She's a good person. You get 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.080 to know her, you will really enjoy her. And I 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.240 just feel like everybody needs to give her a chance 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.360 and lighten up a little bit. What's going on between 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.120 the sisters. That's between the sisters. Nobody should be in 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:52.200 between that. That's family. They are biological sisters. Like I 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.560 tell Tasha, and she will tell you. I tell her. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.200 Work that out. Make it right with your sister. I 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.520 don't care about nothing else. If you know, ever ever 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.760 go back to Escape, that's your sister. Y'all gotta make 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:04.120 that right. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:05.120 Y'all gotta work that out. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.200 And everybody else needs to stay out of that and 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.320 sister business and let them work it out. 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:10.000 That's it. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.280 As we went through Twitter, some people. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:18.040 Have said that Tamika has chosen the group over her sister. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.320 Is that something that you've seen as well? 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.640 I don't want to be in that. I like Tamika 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:23.120 as well. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.520 Whenever I used to look at Escape when they first 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.600 came out, I'll gravitate it to Tamika and she know 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.600 when I see how, I'm like, hey, what's up, fave? 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.760 I love her voice, I love her attitude, her swag. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.560 She just gives it to you. Even after the show, 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.400 she was like, am I still your faith? 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.000 You know what I mean? Because it's been. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.720 Really hard for all of us, But you know, no 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.240 matter what we're going through, she's still my favor. I 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.760 still love her voice, I still love her swag. I 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.160 can't take any of her talent away from her. She 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.400 gets you know what I mean? But what's going on 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:56.040 between her and her sister? Her choosing quote unquote her 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.640 group over her sister. I don't know what's going on 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.960 with that because I haven't had a conversation. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:01.560 With me about that. 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.560 I don't like to get involved in that because I 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.280 don't want nobody involved in my business. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.720 Like that talk on said, Look, I got enough bother 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:08.360 my own. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.800 I got tied to insert myself in other people's business, 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.640 especially when it comes to sisters. 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.200 Honey, no, and then they get back together and then 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:18.440 they don't talk to me. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.120 Nope, I'm not getting involved. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:24.360 Will there ever be a tour with SWB an escape? 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.920 I don't know at this point. If you ask me today, 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:29.080 it looks like it's a no. 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.920 But I don't know. See this new Coco, this. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:37.280 Positive Coco, I still like this is like a great idea. 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.320 It's awesome, Like why are we here? Why don't we 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:45.800 all see the bigger picture? This is history legendary, but 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.000 we are, you know, with co headline and that's so stupid. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:50.560 So I don't know. Right now. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.080 It's gotten personal and disrespectful, and I'm not good with 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.800 disrespect So I don't know. Especially when you've got my 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.960 number you can just call and we can talk this out. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.560 I hate I went online, not with people that got 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:03.320 my phone number. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.479 I always said this, and I feel this way. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.520 If you got my phone number and you choose not 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.359 to pick up the phone and. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.800 Say to me we got beef, I don't know what's 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:15.320 going on. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.600 If you choose to use whatever misunderstanding we have and 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:23.359 go to the press, I will never understand that. I 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.000 have my reasons as to why things like that always 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.399 happens to people, because sometimes you'll need the audience, and 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.000 my thing is I'm not going to join a circus. 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.040 So I agree with you there, and I think that's 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.720 the reason why a lot of people are disappointed with 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.800 the direction of the show, because, like you said, look, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.000 we know drama's going to happen. 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.800 I knew that it'll be some drama. 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.960 I am shocked the drama with the group would be 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.120 this cod headlining. I think it's crazy to me because 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.000 I just assumed that would be the easy. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:54.760 Part to decide on. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.120 And that's why I think a lot of us are 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:01.280 disappointed in the fact that we may never see this. 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.000 Happen because of the bigger picture. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.119 With all that being said, the members of Escape have 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.280 said that they're moving forward as a trio. Do you 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:14.199 think based on you being in a trio, do you 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:15.440 think that's going to work for them? 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.440 I think they can do it because Samika will sing 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.520 Tasha's part. But Tasha's going to be missed. She's definitely 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.960 going to be missed. People are really funny about their 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.520 original members. They want to see them original, so I 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.920 mean they can do it for people are She's gonna 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.680