Speaker 1: The egos get involved in terms of why this series
Speaker 1: is about co headlining, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna speak to SWB.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like it's anything about egos on our part.
Speaker 3: We just want what's fair and what's due to us.
Speaker 3: If we're going to do an integrated show, we're doing
Speaker 3: an equal amount of work.
Speaker 2: Why can't it be a co headlining situation. That's it.
Speaker 3: But if it's not an integrated show, you're going to
Speaker 3: do your show, We're going to do our show, then
Speaker 3: that's something different. But we were told that it was
Speaker 3: going to be an integrated show, so I don't even
Speaker 3: understand why it's such a big deal about cold headlining.
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Speaker 4: Ever since I was a little gay boy in Detroit, Michigan.
Speaker 1: I love girl groups. I'm a up set with girl group.
Speaker 1: I'm a kind of sewer girl group. I create a
Speaker 1: one called Blueprint.
Speaker 4: Yes, encor, I love.
Speaker 1: Girl groups from TLC to Destiny's Childs.
Speaker 4: But of course as w B and I'm here with my.
Speaker 1: Love, who I think is one of the greatest R
Speaker 1: and B singers of all time.
Speaker 4: Of course I'm talking about Miss Coco Gamble.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So look, we've been trying to do this for
Speaker 1: a minute. So I'm so thankful and grateful that we're
Speaker 1: able to finally sit and talk because.
Speaker 4: There's a lot going on, Coco, is it?
Speaker 2: I even know.
Speaker 1: I can't even go on social media without hearing about SWV,
Speaker 1: escape whole headlining, everything else.
Speaker 4: So let's get right into it.
Speaker 1: Obviously, your show, The Queens of R and B is
Speaker 1: a talk of the town. Everybody has a strong opinion
Speaker 1: about this show. What made you, Coco want to do
Speaker 1: another reality show?
Speaker 3: But this would be a great idea, Like you always
Speaker 3: see the guys going tour the guy groups the addition
Speaker 3: Joe to see.
Speaker 2: So I was like, Oh, it would be really nice for.
Speaker 3: Some girls to get get together and do it. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw the one twelve Jagged
Speaker 3: Edge show where they had an integrated show, so the
Speaker 3: way it was presented to SWUV it would be something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: So I was like, Oh, that's dope. I can get
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 3: So you know, I wasn't really thinking about the drama
Speaker 3: like that, not really, but I was like, no, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be better this time.
Speaker 2: I was wrong.
Speaker 1: Where did things go wrong? Because to your point, as
Speaker 1: a fan of girl groups, and so is a lot
Speaker 1: of my listeners, we fought like to have swb an
Speaker 1: Escape do a show based on how great the Verses was.
Speaker 4: I mean, I was live tween, like, I can't.
Speaker 1: Believe all of these legends are like sinking together when
Speaker 1: that versus happened.
Speaker 4: Was the popularity of the verses?
Speaker 1: What made you, guys decide to do a show about
Speaker 1: co headlining?
Speaker 2: The show is not about oh headlighting.
Speaker 4: You tried it allegedly, mow nuts guy.
Speaker 2: It was per idea.
Speaker 3: She saw versus and she thought that it would be
Speaker 3: a great idea, and so the way.
Speaker 2: She explained it, I was like, yeah, that would be
Speaker 2: a great idea for sw being escaped to do a show.
Speaker 3: The show's supposed to be about us preparing you guys
Speaker 3: get to see behind the scenes of how we do
Speaker 3: the rehearsal, the decisions we have to make, and things
Speaker 3: of that nature.
Speaker 2: That's what it was supposed to feel us.
Speaker 4: So what is it about now that you're surprised about.
Speaker 2: The cod headlining.
Speaker 3: When we were asked to do it, we were told
Speaker 3: that it was like going to be a co headlining situation.
Speaker 3: So we were like, cool, let's get in here and
Speaker 3: let's do this. Let's show them that women can work together.
Speaker 1: Did egos get involved in terms of why this series
Speaker 1: is about co headlining.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna speak for SWB.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like it's anything about egos on our part.
Speaker 3: We just want what's fair and what's due to us.
Speaker 3: If we're going to do an integrated show, we're do
Speaker 3: an equal amount of work, why can't it be a
Speaker 3: co headline of situation.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: But if it's not an integrated show, you're going to
Speaker 3: do your show, do our show, then that's something different.
Speaker 3: But we were told that it was going to be
Speaker 3: an integrated show, so I don't even understand why it's
Speaker 3: such a big deal about co headlining.
Speaker 1: So as we're seeing with this season, a lot of
Speaker 1: the girls are having conversation about the reasoning behind why
Speaker 1: Escape feels that they deserve to be the top building.
Speaker 1: Tiny said that courtesy of her and Candy having hit
Speaker 1: reality shows, that the relevancy is more there, which is
Speaker 1: why they sell out. Obviously, you are a part of
Speaker 1: a group that has sold two to three times.
Speaker 4: It's more than them.
Speaker 1: When Tiny made her rationale about the reality show being
Speaker 1: relevant to them selling out and deserving to be top billing,
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts in that?
Speaker 2: I disagree. I totally disagree.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know like the social media because they
Speaker 3: brought up social media as well, they have more followers
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that was a thing.
Speaker 3: And if we were talking about TV, yes, you got
Speaker 3: that all day girls, you're the queen of TV. But
Speaker 3: when it comes to music, I feel like that's something different.
Speaker 2: You know, s w b weed them girls.
Speaker 1: You said multiple times that back in the day, Day Day, Honeymoons,
Speaker 1: cacll you think get the girls together. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the old Coco would have done what compared to what
Speaker 1: the new Cocoa is doing now.
Speaker 3: I would have been just arguing the whole from the
Speaker 3: first time we started filming to the end.
Speaker 2: But it's tyrant.
Speaker 3: I didn't want, you know. I really was trying my
Speaker 3: best to make things work out. Like I said, I
Speaker 3: still feel like it's a great idea, something that has
Speaker 3: not been done. We could have been like the new
Speaker 3: Age spice girls, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 3: just felt like, you know what, me getting upset and
Speaker 3: going crazy is not gonna solve anything, So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: just chill out. Unus, I was medicated, so I was
Speaker 3: just chilling out, you know, and Tad would be talking
Speaker 3: to me, you know, we're gonna do it like this.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do it like that because she's more level headed.
Speaker 3: And that's what we were trying to do. We were
Speaker 3: just trying to keep it cute. We don't want no drama,
Speaker 3: no problems. We want what we feel we deserve and
Speaker 3: that's it.
Speaker 4: Not to put words in your mouth.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have said that the egos and
Speaker 1: escape is the reason why they always have issues.
Speaker 4: Do you agree with that they have issues?
Speaker 3: That they have to work out. I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's egos. They've known each other since they were kids,
Speaker 3: so I feel like maybe it stems from way back then.
Speaker 2: But I don't learn.
Speaker 3: About a lot of this stuff until we just started
Speaker 3: filming s W. We have our own issues. I can't
Speaker 3: really deal with this.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that you sign on to do a
Speaker 1: show and you got bamboozled and the intention of it.
Speaker 3: I can't say we got bamboozled because we know with
Speaker 3: every reality show it has to be some drama.
Speaker 2: I just didn't expect it to be this much drama.
Speaker 3: You know, I live a regular life, so I just
Speaker 3: wake up every Monday morning and I'm in another blog.
Speaker 2: I'm like hot, damn again.
Speaker 3: But you leave me alone already, damn. You know my
Speaker 3: group on an easy going We just chilled for the
Speaker 3: most part. You don't see us in a lot of drama.
Speaker 1: What personal stuff came out that you feel like was
Speaker 1: just too much about how.
Speaker 3: Much we supposedly get paid. You got people googling how
Speaker 3: much we get paid. Don't trust Google, Honey, we get paid.
Speaker 3: How I make more than the girls? They have to
Speaker 3: split fifty percent? Like that's unnecessary to me, Like, we
Speaker 3: don't have to throw dirty jazz really, like, that's not
Speaker 3: lady Like. I don't like that part because we're not
Speaker 3: doing that. We're not being nasty and dirty and putting
Speaker 3: out people's personal information. We're not We're not doing that.
Speaker 3: It's untrue, s w equal, But why is it anybody's business?
Speaker 1: When you saw that Lee was getting into it with
Speaker 1: op Bar over Twitter?
Speaker 4: What was you thinking about when all of that was
Speaker 4: on the phone me?
Speaker 1: Because it definitely got a lot of press and a
Speaker 1: lot of clad backs happened after it.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised because, like I said, Lely though she minds
Speaker 3: her business, she doesn't get into anything. And she was like,
Speaker 3: don't be mad at.
Speaker 2: Me, y'all.
Speaker 3: But I said something. We were like, because I'm not
Speaker 3: on Twitter, I was like, what did you say? Then
Speaker 3: I see it in the blogs. I'm like, oh goodness,
Speaker 3: why are you arguing with her?
Speaker 2: Like do you even know her?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Who cares?
Speaker 3: So it was more surprising because it was Lee and
Speaker 3: Leely's like she's real chilling and laid back.
Speaker 2: We just try to tell her just let it go.
Speaker 3: Who cares? People gonna think what they want to think.
Speaker 3: They're gonna believe what they want to believe. But we
Speaker 3: know the truth and that's what matters.
Speaker 1: One thing we all love about you is you have
Speaker 1: always been somebody that has defended yourself.
Speaker 4: You have admitted that.
Speaker 1: Look back in the day, they day, I was the
Speaker 1: girl who liked to clap back. I am surprised that
Speaker 1: there was even a conversation about someone headlining a tour
Speaker 1: because the spirit of the verses was the fact that
Speaker 1: it was a celebration of two iconic groups in their
Speaker 1: own right, and none of you y'all fed into the
Speaker 1: fans saying this person won this group one. Y'all don't
Speaker 1: feed into that, because it was more so like.
Speaker 4: We all had fun. But when it comes to the
Speaker 4: group was.
Speaker 1: Something that I think all of us felt was so simple.
Speaker 1: It was sort of like, we both are fire in
Speaker 1: our own right. Well, what was sad to me was
Speaker 1: that the commonality of we are both excellent, and we
Speaker 1: look at the stats, SWB arguably has the bigger hits
Speaker 1: if we just focus on Billboard, if we focus on
Speaker 1: nothing else and just Billboard, you guys have the bigger hits.
Speaker 1: And that's why to me, I thought it was amazing
Speaker 1: of escape to say, according to Billboard Bigger Hits, we
Speaker 1: also bring this to the table, and how beautiful it
Speaker 1: would be to show the world because if we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about female empowerment and we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about we always lead with supporting women and doing things
Speaker 1: for the fans. Why couldn't that be the common ground?
Speaker 1: That was my process into it was that yours too.
Speaker 3: I totally agree. We're doing this woman empowerment things, sisterhood,
Speaker 3: you know, we loving on each other.
Speaker 2: Why does it even.
Speaker 3: Matter about the Oh we got a headline because we're
Speaker 3: on TV.
Speaker 2: Huh, Like, is this what this is about?
Speaker 3: Because y'all should have told me that before I signed
Speaker 3: the contract, you know, I you know, I done left
Speaker 3: my home to come out here and do this, and this.
Speaker 2: Is what we're doing. I can't even go home now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I was all ready to just you know,
Speaker 3: get to know the other ladies.
Speaker 2: You know, I know Tasha, she and I we are friends.
Speaker 2: We've been friends for.
Speaker 3: A minute, and I was really ready to get to
Speaker 3: know the other ladies and just you know, I guess
Speaker 3: make some new friends.
Speaker 2: But honey, it did not work out that way.
Speaker 4: Who are you friends with? Right? Now from Escape, Tasha,
Speaker 4: why aren't you friends with the other group members?
Speaker 3: Tasha and I were friends before the show. We were
Speaker 3: friends before Versus, Like, she's the one that called me
Speaker 3: convinced me to do Versus because I didn't want to
Speaker 3: do Versus. She's like, come on, let's do it for
Speaker 3: the culture. So I did Versus. We talked before filming
Speaker 3: this show. You know, we both had some reservations, but
Speaker 3: I think Tasha and I kind of clicked because we
Speaker 3: both understand each other. Like I've been in her shoes before,
Speaker 3: where I've had people being together just simply because they
Speaker 3: disliked me, you know, for one reason or another.
Speaker 2: So I kind of feel her.
Speaker 3: I feel like she understands me, and that's why we've
Speaker 3: been friends for as long as we have been.
Speaker 1: And based on your experience on the reality show, uniform
Speaker 1: of friendship with the other members.
Speaker 3: No, because I never really was around the other members.
Speaker 3: I didn't even get to see Tasha as much. Why
Speaker 3: we were filming, Like we were talking on the phone, but
Speaker 3: that was about it. It was so busy and I
Speaker 3: was flying back and forth from Atlanta to Virginia, so
Speaker 3: it was crazy.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Tasha, she has become a meme on social media.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Tasha has.
Speaker 1: Been accused of allegedly stealing thirty thousand dollars from her
Speaker 1: sister Tamika. Tasha has definitely been villainized on the show.
Speaker 4: You know Tasha personally, how is she doing.
Speaker 3: She's doing the best that she can with what everything
Speaker 3: that she's dealing with, you know.
Speaker 2: But I talked to her.
Speaker 3: I try to uplift her and encourage her, you know,
Speaker 3: just so she can keep going and keep her head
Speaker 3: up because she's really like bothered.
Speaker 2: She's bothered. Who wouldn't be bothered? No, she's human. So
Speaker 2: I just try to just uplift her and be a
Speaker 2: friend for her.
Speaker 3: In the ear, I'm honest with her as well, you know,
Speaker 3: that's what sisters do, friends, that's where we are. I
Speaker 3: just pray for her, you know, and she don't need
Speaker 3: another enemy, So I'm not trying to be that.
Speaker 2: I'm her friend. And that's just it.
Speaker 1: Based on you watching the show, because obviously a lot
Speaker 1: of the scenes that she's going through with Tamika was
Speaker 1: filmed personally based on the fact that you do know her,
Speaker 1: you two are friends, and now you have to watch
Speaker 1: what's being said about her on the show. What conclusion
Speaker 1: have you come up with in terms of her treatment?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's something to where she does
Speaker 1: not deserve?
Speaker 4: And this is not ta Tasha that you've been knowing
Speaker 4: for so many years.
Speaker 3: It's not Tatasha that I know. You know how reality
Speaker 3: TV were? How do you If you give it to them,
Speaker 3: they gonna use it. So if you sit up there
Speaker 3: making them faces, they're gonna use it.
Speaker 2: I've been there before. They give me every time, making
Speaker 2: them faces, both of us. They gonna use it. But
Speaker 2: you know, when you feel me, you forget.
Speaker 3: The cameras in it sometimes, so you just like, yeah, whatever, No,
Speaker 3: I think it's unfair, you know, because she's really a
Speaker 3: good person. And I just so I really don't like
Speaker 3: how they doing her. She's a good person. You get
Speaker 3: to know her, you will really enjoy her. And I
Speaker 3: just feel like everybody needs to give her a chance
Speaker 3: and lighten up a little bit. What's going on between
Speaker 3: the sisters. That's between the sisters. Nobody should be in
Speaker 3: between that. That's family. They are biological sisters. Like I
Speaker 3: tell Tasha, and she will tell you. I tell her.
Speaker 3: Work that out. Make it right with your sister. I
Speaker 3: don't care about nothing else. If you know, ever ever
Speaker 3: go back to Escape, that's your sister. Y'all gotta make
Speaker 3: that right.
Speaker 2: Y'all gotta work that out.
Speaker 3: And everybody else needs to stay out of that and
Speaker 3: sister business and let them work it out.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 4: As we went through Twitter, some people.
Speaker 1: Have said that Tamika has chosen the group over her sister.
Speaker 4: Is that something that you've seen as well?
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in that. I like Tamika
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: Whenever I used to look at Escape when they first
Speaker 3: came out, I'll gravitate it to Tamika and she know
Speaker 3: when I see how, I'm like, hey, what's up, fave?
Speaker 3: I love her voice, I love her attitude, her swag.
Speaker 3: She just gives it to you. Even after the show,
Speaker 3: she was like, am I still your faith?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Because it's been.
Speaker 3: Really hard for all of us, But you know, no
Speaker 3: matter what we're going through, she's still my favor. I
Speaker 3: still love her voice, I still love her swag. I
Speaker 3: can't take any of her talent away from her. She
Speaker 3: gets you know what I mean? But what's going on
Speaker 3: between her and her sister? Her choosing quote unquote her
Speaker 3: group over her sister. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 3: with that because I haven't had a conversation.
Speaker 2: With me about that.
Speaker 3: I don't like to get involved in that because I
Speaker 3: don't want nobody involved in my business.
Speaker 4: Like that talk on said, Look, I got enough bother
Speaker 4: my own.
Speaker 1: I got tied to insert myself in other people's business,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to sisters.
Speaker 3: Honey, no, and then they get back together and then
Speaker 3: they don't talk to me.
Speaker 2: Nope, I'm not getting involved.
Speaker 1: Will there ever be a tour with SWB an escape?
Speaker 3: I don't know at this point. If you ask me today,
Speaker 3: it looks like it's a no.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. See this new Coco, this.
Speaker 3: Positive Coco, I still like this is like a great idea.
Speaker 3: It's awesome, Like why are we here? Why don't we
Speaker 3: all see the bigger picture? This is history legendary, but
Speaker 3: we are, you know, with co headline and that's so stupid.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Right now.
Speaker 3: It's gotten personal and disrespectful, and I'm not good with
Speaker 3: disrespect So I don't know. Especially when you've got my
Speaker 3: number you can just call and we can talk this out.
Speaker 3: I hate I went online, not with people that got
Speaker 3: my phone number.
Speaker 4: I always said this, and I feel this way.
Speaker 1: If you got my phone number and you choose not
Speaker 1: to pick up the phone and.
Speaker 4: Say to me we got beef, I don't know what's
Speaker 4: going on.
Speaker 1: If you choose to use whatever misunderstanding we have and
Speaker 1: go to the press, I will never understand that. I
Speaker 1: have my reasons as to why things like that always
Speaker 1: happens to people, because sometimes you'll need the audience, and
Speaker 1: my thing is I'm not going to join a circus.
Speaker 1: So I agree with you there, and I think that's
Speaker 1: the reason why a lot of people are disappointed with
Speaker 1: the direction of the show, because, like you said, look,
Speaker 1: we know drama's going to happen.
Speaker 4: I knew that it'll be some drama.
Speaker 1: I am shocked the drama with the group would be
Speaker 1: this cod headlining. I think it's crazy to me because
Speaker 1: I just assumed that would be the easy.
Speaker 4: Part to decide on.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think a lot of us are
Speaker 1: disappointed in the fact that we may never see this.
Speaker 4: Happen because of the bigger picture.
Speaker 1: With all that being said, the members of Escape have
Speaker 1: said that they're moving forward as a trio. Do you
Speaker 1: think based on you being in a trio, do you
Speaker 1: think that's going to work for them?
Speaker 3: I think they can do it because Samika will sing
Speaker 3: Tasha's part. But Tasha's going to be missed. She's definitely
Speaker 3: going to be missed. People are really funny about their
Speaker 3: original members. They want to see them original, so I
Speaker 3: mean they can do it for people are She's gonna
Speaker 3: be missed. She's definitely going to be missed. She has
Speaker 3: some really great parts in there, and their songs or whatever.
Speaker 3: They all have their part in Escape and people want
Speaker 3: to see that. So I think that they can do it,
Speaker 3: but it's better with her there.
Speaker 1: Who I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these quick ads. This is
Speaker 1: Reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get
Speaker 1: back in to the show.
Speaker 4: If there was a second season of this show, would
Speaker 4: you come back today?
Speaker 2: I'm going to say no, and I would say no.
Speaker 3: It is so much, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's just weird.
Speaker 3: It's weird. And I don't even think my group members,
Speaker 3: they're just like no, yes, Cadge and Lely are so
Speaker 3: easy going, just you know, they real chill. So to
Speaker 3: have a lot of this stuff being thrown at us,
Speaker 3: this is like what the hell, Oh my god, people
Speaker 3: are staying such mean and cruel and evil things. They
Speaker 3: just wait, wait a minute, why is this happening? So
Speaker 3: at this point, like I said, we were just chilling,
Speaker 3: and to have this all happening, nobody wants to be
Speaker 3: bother with this today I would have to say.
Speaker 4: No, we'll but get you to say yes the money.
Speaker 3: Then I gotta convince the girl aoy, y'all, it's a
Speaker 3: nice joy.
Speaker 4: You said, let me get my back right. Then convinced
Speaker 4: Tazzi Leelee, and then Drama.
Speaker 1: You know, look, I'm still hopeful because when I did
Speaker 1: the encore, one thing I learned about girl groups, the
Speaker 1: ones who make it. In order for a girl group
Speaker 1: to make it, I want to get your opinion on this.
Speaker 1: I was told that in the girl group there has
Speaker 1: to be a member of sign as like the mother
Speaker 1: of the group, the one that is the champion of
Speaker 1: the collective, the one who's like, no, we gotta figure
Speaker 1: this out, No, we got to rehearse. Kelly Bly has
Speaker 1: said numerous times, even LaTavia LaToya said this, and Michelle
Speaker 1: they said Beyonce was the mom of the group meeting.
Speaker 4: She was like, I know, we're tired, but we got
Speaker 4: to go in the studio.
Speaker 1: LaToya Luckett told Tank on his podcast that when she
Speaker 1: was in the studio, her part Beyonce was stand behind
Speaker 1: be in the studio with her to give her some encouragement,
Speaker 1: and that's why she felt like at that time the
Speaker 1: group was successful. When you have one person, right, who's
Speaker 1: that person in SWV and do you think Escape has
Speaker 1: that person.
Speaker 2: While we were filming that person for us?
Speaker 4: It's tag I see that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: She was the one that was like, this is what
Speaker 3: we're gonna do. This is what we're not gonna do. Coco,
Speaker 3: calm down, don't say nothing. Until this time, you know,
Speaker 3: she was very She's strategic in what we would do.
Speaker 3: Even now after the show you know, has aired, she's
Speaker 3: still like, okay, just chill out, nobody say anything. We're
Speaker 3: gonna do it like this, We're gonna do it like
Speaker 3: that or whatever. So it's taed do we always listen?
Speaker 2: No? And then she'll be like, I.
Speaker 3: Told y'all, y'all say what all right? All right, you're right,
Speaker 3: you're right. But she's that person for us. That's you know,
Speaker 3: she's like more level headed, she thinks things out. So yeah,
Speaker 3: she's helped us a lot during the filming of the
Speaker 3: show after the show. Now in our early years, I
Speaker 3: don't really respect.
Speaker 2: Her like that.
Speaker 3: So if she was that person, I don't know, because
Speaker 3: I was a listener.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's our person, she's she's that. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I really don't know Escape like that, So I don't
Speaker 3: know if they have that person over there.
Speaker 1: I think what we were seeing they don't have that person.
Speaker 1: I think that's the issue. This is what I was
Speaker 1: told from multiple Girl Group members. They all said, you
Speaker 1: need one person who's the mama, And I think when
Speaker 1: it comes to Escape, they may not have that one
Speaker 1: person that they listen to, who can rally the troops,
Speaker 1: be the mature one the situation and say hey, this
Speaker 1: is what's going on.
Speaker 4: Less chill.
Speaker 1: And obviously that group has a set of sisters, and
Speaker 1: that's always going.
Speaker 4: To be an issue when you are working with your family, and.
Speaker 3: It's about respecting too. If you don't respect each other
Speaker 3: like that, it's not gonna work. Like I said for
Speaker 3: us back in the day, I didn't give a damn
Speaker 3: about nothing to nobody, so nobody could really calm me down.
Speaker 2: But as I'm grown, I'm older now.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to have someone there that's like, okay, guys,
Speaker 3: we should do it like this, don't do it like that.
Speaker 3: Calm down, Leeley Coco, don't say nothing. You know it
Speaker 3: works for us, but you have to be open to
Speaker 3: listen and you know, to learn because we don't know everything.
Speaker 1: Have you heard from any Girl Group members about the
Speaker 1: show that may be watching it?
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I heard from a lot of peopleout naming names.
Speaker 4: What have they said to you?
Speaker 3: Wait it god, y'all like it good? We love your maturity.
Speaker 3: But what that makes you feel good? Because we are
Speaker 3: finally cant it right, I'm like, oh my god, she
Speaker 3: was right.
Speaker 2: Just chill out.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm fifty too. I don't want to be
Speaker 3: arguing on a lone. It is stupid. They gotta be
Speaker 3: constant and carrying on. I'm like, oh my god, oh no.
Speaker 4: You got to keep your peace and listen.
Speaker 1: As someone who doesn't argue with people online, my advice
Speaker 1: to you is you got to reserve your peace.
Speaker 4: And I always say this to people.
Speaker 1: When you are anointed, it annoys people and they want
Speaker 1: to attack you, and that could come in forms of
Speaker 1: different people, whether it's somebody you know or somebody you
Speaker 1: don't know. You always have to rise above it. And
Speaker 1: people are going to constantly poke you to react and
Speaker 1: to respond.
Speaker 4: They want you to respond, they'll at you. They can't
Speaker 4: act me. Oh you you restricted that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I don't know you.
Speaker 4: That's good, that's smart.
Speaker 3: I knew it was coming someone. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: disturb my piece. I already have a lot going on
Speaker 3: in life. I don't need your own wanted act.
Speaker 4: I love that about you.
Speaker 1: So look, we still want to are can we get
Speaker 1: a tour s WB and TLC?
Speaker 3: Oh, we would love that, but you know TLC is
Speaker 3: on tour in Vogue. Now, they took in Vogue and
Speaker 3: they did not act as w B. I'm like grind
Speaker 3: come on, I would love that though. I will be
Speaker 3: an opener for that. They got a word. We ain't
Speaker 3: tata go head live. We'll be opener in Vogue. They
Speaker 3: paid way. None of us couldn't be here if it
Speaker 3: wasn't for in Vogue.
Speaker 1: So like, come on, you wouldn't mind s w B
Speaker 1: opening up for TLC or in Vogue.
Speaker 3: We've opened up for in Vogue before we did. We
Speaker 3: toured with in Vogue and we went on before them.
Speaker 3: That's the thing about us. We are honest. We we
Speaker 3: know what it is. I do not mind TLC is huge.
Speaker 3: Are you crazy? I don't want to come up to
Speaker 3: No TLC Ah, We're not still fick. We don't want
Speaker 3: to come behind TLC. We respect of Vogue to the utmost.
Speaker 3: Like I said, if it was not for in Voe,
Speaker 3: there will be no sw B. So no, y'all want
Speaker 3: to go, y'all want us to go on before y'all.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do that because that's how much love and
Speaker 3: respect we have for both of them.
Speaker 1: That is so beautiful because one thing I also learned
Speaker 1: from the former Girl Group members. They said to me
Speaker 1: that one of the other reasons girl groups don't last
Speaker 1: is because there's always someone in your ear telling you
Speaker 1: how big you are.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've dealt with that from the beginning. You have
Speaker 3: so many people, and I don't even understand that now
Speaker 3: that I'm old, and I think about it, like why
Speaker 3: are you doing this? Why are you in our ears?
Speaker 2: Just so? And such discord between the group, like why
Speaker 2: are you doing that? That doesn't make sense. We are
Speaker 2: great groups, So why are you trying.
Speaker 3: To tell the group apart that never makes It doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense to me now. But we try to surround
Speaker 3: yourself with better people, but it doesn't always work with
Speaker 3: s W. We each have our own crew, and everybody's
Speaker 3: in our ear, talking in one of their mouths, and
Speaker 3: it's just it's whack.
Speaker 4: We're hopeful, we're prayerful. Before I let you go, one
Speaker 4: of the other things I.
Speaker 1: Have to talk to you about is the fact that
Speaker 1: you are such a support system for your son. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: and as an openly gay black man, I want.
Speaker 4: To make sure that you hear from me.
Speaker 1: Then what you are doing for your child means the
Speaker 1: world to people like me, means the world to black mothers,
Speaker 1: because in our community, it ain't every day that you
Speaker 1: know a parent is cool with it, your level of love, understanding,
Speaker 1: grace when it comes to your kid being open about
Speaker 1: his sexuality and doing getting from the world. What made
Speaker 1: you say this is my son, I don't care what
Speaker 1: people say.
Speaker 4: I'm going to accept him for who he is.
Speaker 2: If you see them, even when he was little, you
Speaker 2: already know what it was.
Speaker 4: I want to.
Speaker 3: Cover and protect him no matter what we've been dealing
Speaker 3: with the negativity of people, well since he was like
Speaker 3: in elementary school. I don't know how many time I've gone.
Speaker 2: Up to the school and just had to like set
Speaker 2: the kids straight.
Speaker 3: You know, so when in this wirl of social media,
Speaker 3: I need them to know, like there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 3: Like I love my son no matter what, I have
Speaker 3: his back. I'm gonna hold him down, I'm gonna cover him,
Speaker 3: and I want him to know that he is awesome.
Speaker 3: He is great no matter who he loves, and that's
Speaker 3: just what it is. And if you gay, be the
Speaker 3: best yay you can be, that's what. Be respectful, be fabulous,
Speaker 3: just don't disappoint me and don't embarrass me. And that's
Speaker 3: what I let him know. He knows that I love him.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold him down, and I'm glad that I'm
Speaker 3: able to help so many other people and parents, you know,
Speaker 3: to love on their children. Yes we do get some
Speaker 3: horrible comments, yes, but they can shove them comments in
Speaker 3: the ad. It's not gonna stop me from loving my
Speaker 3: son and just holding him, you know, close to my heart.
Speaker 2: That's my baby.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't understan and then like why would I
Speaker 3: turn my back on something that I was in late,
Speaker 3: even though I was.
Speaker 2: Only in label for thirty minutes, because he ain't want
Speaker 2: to wait.
Speaker 4: But I'm not.
Speaker 2: That's a pain.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna turn my back on some No, honey,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be there for you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold you down. And he know mommy has
Speaker 2: his back.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he's so cute. He's so sweet, and my
Speaker 1: mom passed away. But I was a mama's boy because
Speaker 1: my mother loved up on me. Like you said, black
Speaker 1: mama knows about their logate kid, Okay, they're waiting for
Speaker 1: you to come out, so my mama knude.
Speaker 2: When he came out to me, I was like, finally.
Speaker 2: He was like what, I'm so hoo. I've been waiting now.
Speaker 4: Look.
Speaker 1: He also came out and said he wants to be
Speaker 1: a singer and not a dentist.
Speaker 4: What's going on with that? Booe?
Speaker 2: He's gonna be that dentist. He needs to go back
Speaker 2: to school.
Speaker 3: Singing is great, he can do that on the weekend
Speaker 3: or something like that, but he needs to get his education.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of him no matter what, but I really
Speaker 3: want him to just just try it.
Speaker 2: He'll like it.
Speaker 3: He's caught up in this hype. I hate hype. Like,
Speaker 3: come on already, Jay, you got this show to people.
Speaker 1: Well, have him meet my friend doctor Heavenly and maybe
Speaker 1: he can like have an apprenticeship.
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be awesome.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll call doctor Heavenly and hook that up.
Speaker 3: And Heavenly she she gonna put him in his place.
Speaker 3: You know, she don't buy her tongue. So yeah, uh.
Speaker 4: Now, so we see each other. Okay.
Speaker 1: There were conversations that there was going to be a
Speaker 1: biopics WB.
Speaker 4: Is that still happening.
Speaker 3: It's still in the works, like we've been talking about it,
Speaker 3: but we don't really like want to bring up like
Speaker 3: we've come along with.
Speaker 2: Well, we can love on each.
Speaker 3: Other, and I think bringing up a lot of that
Speaker 3: old stuff is gonna take us back. I know for me,
Speaker 3: it's probably gonna take us back because we each have
Speaker 3: our own story of why SWB or how SWB broke up.
Speaker 3: I've never really spoken on my truth, but Leally has
Speaker 3: her truth, Touch has her truth, befuse I have mine,
Speaker 3: and then it's the real truth. So bringing up a
Speaker 3: lot of that, I just don't want it to take
Speaker 3: us back to a place where we're not speaking. You know,
Speaker 3: we're fighting again. So it's just something to think about,
Speaker 3: and that's what we've been thinking about. So it's there,
Speaker 3: but we haven't moved forward with it.
Speaker 1: I wish every girl group can talk to the three
Speaker 1: of y'all because, based on this conversation, the level of
Speaker 1: honesty and maturity that you have and the fact that
Speaker 1: you have allowed certain things to sway you off of
Speaker 1: your journey of just being a grown ass woman and
Speaker 1: saying I just want peace in my life. I appreciate that,
Speaker 1: and that's why you're my girl, because there's so much
Speaker 1: drama happening in all the places, and look, you love
Speaker 1: loving mash huns Bill.
Speaker 4: We like watching drama like we get it.
Speaker 2: Yes, we get it.
Speaker 1: But that's why for me, I appreciate the fact that
Speaker 1: you have allowed yourself to say, I know who I
Speaker 1: used to be, I know what I've used to respond to,
Speaker 1: and no one is going to take me off track.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that because that, to me is something that
Speaker 1: this new generation of girl groups needs to hear so
Speaker 1: that they're able to just understand that we have to
Speaker 1: support each other in our maturity at this level and
Speaker 1: laughing not leaves. When you have bad intentions entering a situation,
Speaker 1: you can't escape what's going to come at you.
Speaker 4: You just can't.
Speaker 2: Absolutely and it was all good on our part.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately it kind of went crazy, but I'm still hopeful.
Speaker 1: And so we Child, So what does SWB have going on?
Speaker 1: Are you guys going to do a tour, even if
Speaker 1: it's by yourself or joining other people?
Speaker 4: Where can we buy some tickets?
Speaker 1: Child?
Speaker 3: Let us know boo usw is going on tour. We
Speaker 3: just have not made the announcement with Wool, but it'll
Speaker 3: be this summer. It's exciting. It's a nice too, I think,
Speaker 3: you know. And we said we wouldn't do any new music,
Speaker 3: but I'll produce a Brian Morgan I spoke to him
Speaker 3: this morning and he's like, he has this new song
Speaker 3: that is like such a banger, and since everybody wants
Speaker 3: to say, oh, come, I was the only one that sing,
Speaker 3: which is dumb because y'all love you your heart and
Speaker 3: Tage just killing that bread Lee sings.
Speaker 2: On our remakeup.
Speaker 3: If only you knew that was Grammy nominated, So come
Speaker 3: on with the come on.
Speaker 2: So Brian had this song and I spoke to this
Speaker 2: Morne like.
Speaker 3: I said, and it's everybody will be singing me on
Speaker 3: this song.
Speaker 2: And you know I trust him. He said, you know
Speaker 2: it's a banger. Lee heard it.
Speaker 3: She said, it's a banger, and so we're gonna see
Speaker 3: what we're gonna do.
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