WEBVTT - Episode 1: The Right Guy 

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<v Speaker 1>It's two thousand and one fifty miles southwest of Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>Joliet Penitentiary, ring a bell it should it's the prison

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<v Speaker 1>from the opening scene of Blues Brothers, Prisoner number n

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<v Speaker 1>eight one seven one seven. Lee Harris is tense. He's

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<v Speaker 1>waiting on a new selly. Lee's had his share over

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<v Speaker 1>the past decade, and it's always a craft shoot a

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<v Speaker 1>space seven feet by four feet with a bunk bed

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<v Speaker 1>and an open toilet, intimately shared with another convict. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a few ways this could go as far as Lee's concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't none of them good? You can be sure Lee

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<v Speaker 1>did not expect someone like Robert Chatler to walk in

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside. These men would have never crossed paths. Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>a black man and career scammer raised in Chicago's most

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<v Speaker 1>notorious projects, Now pushing fifty. Robert, white Jewish kid from

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<v Speaker 1>the suburbs, half his age, an odd ball who sought

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<v Speaker 1>solace rescuing insects and animals. How was this gonna work?

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<v Speaker 1>In short order? Robert would drive Lead to his wits end.

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<v Speaker 1>He chained smoked from sun up to sundown, all while

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<v Speaker 1>playing radio dub beetles cassettes on repeat. Lee hated smoking,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's just say the Beatles weren't exactly his flavor.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of that would fade away because on that day,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Harris was about to meet his future best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>brother from another and the key to his freedom from

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart Podcasts. I'm Dax stelin Ross and this is crying wolf.

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<v Speaker 2>White victim, female, pretty wealthy black defendant. I mean, as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as I saw it, I'm like, fuck me, this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be bad.

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<v Speaker 3>He says the police are his friends, and then that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>They turn on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get nineteen years killing somebody I have never seen.

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<v Speaker 3>They got the wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>That at Lee's mouth was Lee's downfall.

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<v Speaker 3>Along with dirty call.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a list of police officers who deserve a special

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<v Speaker 2>place in hell. As I walked down the hostage, ban said,

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<v Speaker 2>my home.

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<v Speaker 3>Address up came from the world of How the Techniques?

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't be a restaurant of grant right now?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you fear? Guys?

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<v Speaker 3>I realized from the beginning killed Dana Fidler and that

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<v Speaker 3>person's still up here.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode one, The Right Guy. It's the late eighties. Paula

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<v Speaker 1>Abdul and Public Enemy are in heavy rotation on MTV.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan has yet to win a title. Some think

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<v Speaker 1>he never will. Oprah is still on our way to

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<v Speaker 1>becoming an afternoon I. Lee Harris is thirty something living

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago's Near North Side. He's got a little boy

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<v Speaker 1>he can't wait to teach the intricacies of softball. His

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<v Speaker 1>own prospects aren't so bright. By his own admission, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a petty crook running out of hustles. The one thing

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<v Speaker 1>Lee does have going for him, besides his son, The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that sets him apart is his charm. He could

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<v Speaker 1>and would talk to anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember him walking up to us. You'd see a

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<v Speaker 4>crew and it'd say, Hey, how you doing. Oh hey,

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<v Speaker 4>mister Jordan, what you guys doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>That's Bob Jordan, And if you're from Chicago, you might

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<v Speaker 1>recognize his commanding voice. Bob's a news veteran with a

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<v Speaker 1>career spanning six decades. Back in the eighties, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a general assignment reporter for the TV station WG in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day he'd gather his film crew and had to

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<v Speaker 1>cover the city's biggest story of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Lee was not afraid to step out and be seen

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<v Speaker 4>be recognized, be known. If we're out doing a story,

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<v Speaker 4>we'd want to find someone whom we could interview and say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, what's the problem of the day. People are

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<v Speaker 4>many times afraid of a camera crew.

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<v Speaker 1>But Lee wasn't. Living in the projects meant the media

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<v Speaker 1>was usually there for one of two reasons, drugs or violence,

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<v Speaker 1>and often both meant they were looking for a good SoundBite.

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<v Speaker 1>For some residents, the site of reporters prompted a bline

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<v Speaker 1>in the opposite direction. Being so amenable made Lee stand out.

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<v Speaker 1>He stood out for other reasons too.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been trying to think of words to describe him.

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<v Speaker 4>Impetuous is kind of a word, because he was outside

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<v Speaker 4>the norm. He was probably smarter than the average kid

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<v Speaker 4>he ran around with because he knew how to work

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<v Speaker 4>the system. And if I do this and do that,

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<v Speaker 4>I can game the system. I might be able to

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<v Speaker 4>use it to my advantage. But he was unpolished. He

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<v Speaker 4>was vulnerable to his own recklessness.

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<v Speaker 1>The same unabashed approach Lee took with journalists like Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan extended to local beat cops too.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very affable, he was very friendly, he was

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<v Speaker 2>very you know, he respected as we were the police,

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<v Speaker 2>but we respected, you know, we had different lifestyles.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Mary Siwak and her partner Joseph Roberts Signoretti,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also goes by Bob. Back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee was a recurring character on their beat.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a scam artist. There's an alley off of Rush Street.

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<v Speaker 3>They call it drug Ali Lee. He would shell fake drugs,

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<v Speaker 3>burn eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the number dried herbs instead of weed. A

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<v Speaker 1>regano meant whatever a hustler can entice some thrill seeking

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<v Speaker 1>inner city tourists with.

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<v Speaker 3>And all the suburbanites would go across and walk, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so a black guy coming up and telling, you know, saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>do you want anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And more often than not they'd fall for it. But

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<v Speaker 1>once a sale was made, real drugs or not, Bob

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<v Speaker 1>would have to step in.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Lee, you're gonna have to go to jail or

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<v Speaker 3>or sometimes I just shag him out of there, and

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<v Speaker 3>you tell him get out of here because you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to hassle with them and bring in and stuck

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<v Speaker 3>while he did, don't want to touch them, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a funny kind of dance back then

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<v Speaker 1>between Lee and the police. Sometimes after a sale, Lee

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<v Speaker 1>would hang around to get arrested on purpose. A tip

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<v Speaker 1>to the precinct with his cop piles could be more

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant than the wrath of a returning customer.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he didn't do what he did, then we

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't do what we did right.

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<v Speaker 3>He was job security.

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<v Speaker 1>This love hate triangle between locals, the press, and the

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<v Speaker 1>police could have typified daily life in any project. But

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<v Speaker 1>Lee didn't live in just any project. He lived in

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most infamous of them all, Cabrini Green.

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<v Speaker 1>You've likely heard of Cabrini, even if you couldn't point

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<v Speaker 1>to it on a map. I certainly couldn't. It's where

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<v Speaker 1>the Colthood horror candy Man was set. It's had countless

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<v Speaker 1>mentions in Chicago rap, and it was the backdrop for

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<v Speaker 1>the classic black sitcom Good Times from the seventies. The

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<v Speaker 1>title it was ironic in case you're wondering. When the

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<v Speaker 1>first Kabrini rowhouses and towers went up in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forties and fifties, they represented optimism, the potential of public

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<v Speaker 1>housing to provide quality homes for all. It was certainly

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<v Speaker 1>a step up from the slum land it replaced Little Hell.

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<v Speaker 1>The locals used to call it, who at the time

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<v Speaker 1>were a mix of Irish, Swedish and Italian immigrants. But

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<v Speaker 1>by the nineteen eighties, when Lee lived there, things had

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<v Speaker 1>changed a lot. The projects had become a new kind

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<v Speaker 1>of poverty, poverty of gangs, drugs, and violence, and Cabrini's

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<v Speaker 1>buildings were now exclusively housing black residents.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the police officers didn't want, even want nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with Kabrini, but it's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a different world. Crack cocaine was rife, controlled

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<v Speaker 1>and fought over by the Mickey Cobras or the gangster disciples,

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<v Speaker 1>some of Cabrini's most notorious gangs. Oddly enough, none of

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<v Speaker 1>that phased Bob Ora Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>We got along with all the gangs, the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>hated and shot at each other. We were like their

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<v Speaker 2>aunties or something. So it was an unusual relationship we had,

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<v Speaker 2>and Lee was one of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>To be clear, Lee was not in a gang, a

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<v Speaker 1>gang banger, as they used to call it. What's interesting, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that he somehow managed to get along with them all.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't afraid of being seen. He also knew how

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<v Speaker 1>to disappear into the crowd. Make himself invisible or if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else non threatening. More than anything, Lee was a survivor,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant being both nothing in particular and a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of everything. This showed up in his various occupations. Being

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<v Speaker 1>that Kabrini was right next door to some of Chicago's

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<v Speaker 1>most affluent neighborhoods, Lee would sometimes dabble in more legitimate pursuits,

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<v Speaker 1>like window cleaning for the luxury high rises, and when

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<v Speaker 1>window washing and burn bags didn't cut it, there was

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<v Speaker 1>always a quick buck to be made sharing information with

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<v Speaker 1>the cops.

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<v Speaker 2>We would talk to him about things, Hey Lee, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know about this or that? Or we say hey Lee,

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<v Speaker 2>if you hear about anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But an inexplicable tragedy a mere few blocks from Kaberni

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<v Speaker 1>was about to shake up the natural order of things

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<v Speaker 1>and send chills throughout the whole of Chicago. How people

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<v Speaker 1>endure Chicago winters has never made sense to me. A

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<v Speaker 1>place that hovers between bone cold and brick for months

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<v Speaker 1>on end. Then you experience the summer, and suddenly it

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<v Speaker 1>all makes sense. Chicagoans live for the summer. It's when

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<v Speaker 1>the city exhales, when the frozen shorelines of Lake Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>thaw into tanning mecchas dotted with beach bums and fitness diehards,

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<v Speaker 1>and by night becomes stages for music, fireworks, and joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Summer in Chicago isn't just a season, It's a resurrection.

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<v Speaker 1>Summer nineteen eighty nine was no different. Then came the

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<v Speaker 1>night of June eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>A twenty four year old woman lies in a coma tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>the victim of an execution style shooting, apparently near her

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<v Speaker 3>home on the Gold Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>Dana Peitler was smart, attractive, from money as promising as

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<v Speaker 1>they make them in America. She had just completed an

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<v Speaker 1>internship at one of America's top banks and was about

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<v Speaker 1>to begin graduate studies. Moments after returning home from a

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<v Speaker 1>night out celebrating with friends, she's forced into a nearby alley,

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the back of the head, and left for dead.

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<v Speaker 1>The motive is unclear, although police find two ATM receipts

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<v Speaker 1>in Dana's wallet. The time stamps indicate the withdrawals happened

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<v Speaker 1>after she had returned home. Patrol cop Mary Siwac remembers

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<v Speaker 1>it well.

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<v Speaker 2>She's from wealthy family down in the Gold Coast, right

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<v Speaker 2>by Astor Street, which is the biggest money street where

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<v Speaker 2>the governor lives, you know, right where all the concentration

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<v Speaker 2>of money is. So is a heater case.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an instant heater and yes, it's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>you think it is. The heat was on. This kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing just didn't happen on the Gold Coast to

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<v Speaker 1>a white woman. Not only was it one of the

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<v Speaker 1>richest neighborhoods in Chicago, it was one of the richest

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods in the entire country. Reporter Bob Jordan lived there

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<v Speaker 1>around that time. He could attest to its bona fides.

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<v Speaker 4>There was an air of security and you never felt

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<v Speaker 4>ill at ease. So when Dana is discovered in this alley,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a tremendous story because it broke the calm.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dana Fightler case becomes a real life horror story

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone is following. The media descend daily on Northwestern

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Hospital to get updates from Dana's neurosurgeon, and alongside

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<v Speaker 1>fears for Dana, Chicago's residents have worked themselves into a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of moral panic. ATMs are still a weird new

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<v Speaker 1>invention in the eighties, Was this new technology safe? What

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<v Speaker 1>was being compromised in the name of convenience. We found

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<v Speaker 1>some TV footage from the time where a police superintendent

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<v Speaker 1>no Less tells a reporter armed police won't use them.

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<v Speaker 1>What in the devil are you guys doing standing at

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<v Speaker 1>an ATM. And to top it all, tongues are wagging

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<v Speaker 1>about the perpetrator. Surely this crime had been committed by

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<v Speaker 1>a black man and was it only money he was

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<v Speaker 1>after first days, then weeks pass and Dana holds on,

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<v Speaker 1>The city holds its breath. The police chase down leads

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<v Speaker 1>to feed up the chain of command. The media scramble

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<v Speaker 1>for tidbits to satiate its audiences. Bob Jordan had a

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<v Speaker 1>front row seat to it all. As news crews.

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<v Speaker 4>We were in the area doing that story daily, trying

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<v Speaker 4>to do updates, trying to find ways to work the

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<v Speaker 4>story with new angles and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Then out of nowhere, a woman who was out walking

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<v Speaker 1>her dog the night of the incident comes forward. She

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<v Speaker 1>has some vital new information. Moments before the attack, she

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<v Speaker 1>saw Dana being led down the street by three men,

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<v Speaker 1>three black men. After weeks of waiting for a break,

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<v Speaker 1>the CPD finally has something and then just as news

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<v Speaker 1>from the witness becomes known, Dana's family makes an unusual move.

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<v Speaker 1>They put up a sizeable reward. Might the promise of

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<v Speaker 1>hard cast shake loose some new leads, jog a few

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<v Speaker 1>memories The fightler's one answers, so does the city.

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<v Speaker 4>When the mayor is getting static from his constituents, then

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<v Speaker 4>he calls the police chief and says, what the hell

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<v Speaker 4>is going on with this fightler story? How close are

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<v Speaker 4>you in getting this wrapped up? And then the police

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<v Speaker 4>chief calls his neighborhood commander says, how soon are you

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<v Speaker 4>getting it wrapped up? Net pressure all the way to

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<v Speaker 4>the patrolman is find somebody, make some arrests.

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<v Speaker 1>Armed with this new information from the dog walker, the

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<v Speaker 1>CPD puts every cop in the vicinity on high alert.

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<v Speaker 1>Even beat cops like Mary and Bob get drafted. They're

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<v Speaker 1>summoned to an emergency briefing and their orders find any

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<v Speaker 1>scrap of information they possibly can about that night. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is not going to be a collaboration effort across

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<v Speaker 1>the force. This is cop against cop. Whoever brings home

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest scraps. It's the biggest prize.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very doggy dog yeah, And if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a police you get the bad guys done.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to do battle. You've got to compete.

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<v Speaker 1>As Mary and Bob step out of the precinct, they

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly where to head. First, the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>There'd be thousands of people out there, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the summertime. Everybody got there, everybody, and there's always somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that saw all those people all day long, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, somebody always would see what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone perhaps like Lee Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>He could have been there, Yeah, he could have been there.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a contender, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out finding Lee doesn't require much effort at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Marry and Bob bump into him almost immediately. They fill

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<v Speaker 1>him in about the crime, but also the reward twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five large for anyone who can provide information that leads

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<v Speaker 1>to an arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>We're the ones that totally about it. And back then

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of money, and he was a

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<v Speaker 2>money guy. He was a you know, kind guy. Five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars okay, you know, I mean, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>motive for him to want to find out about it

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<v Speaker 2>because in his situation, you know, there was good money.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, always a man to work numerous angles. Lee has

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<v Speaker 1>also been talking to some other cops who worked the

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<v Speaker 1>Gabrini beat. Old friends, in fact partners, James Ward and

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<v Speaker 1>John McHugh. These guys went way back. They used to

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<v Speaker 1>help Lee out when he got in trouble with the law.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd loan of money sometimes. They even attended Lee's wedding

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. Ward and mceu are much closer

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<v Speaker 1>to the case than Bob and Mary. They're working directly

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<v Speaker 1>for the lead on the Fightler case, Detective Richard Zuley,

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<v Speaker 1>a tough talking cop known for making cases and making

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<v Speaker 1>them stick. They tell Lee some enticing insider information. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got three suspects in the case, well known criminals from

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<v Speaker 1>the area. The trigger man went by the street name Cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>But with no witnesses placing them there, there's no chance

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<v Speaker 1>of making any arrests. Lee gets thinking. A twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars reward has a whole lot of burn bags

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<v Speaker 1>and cleaning windows. He could start a new life, move

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<v Speaker 1>his son out of Cabrini. His mind starts worrying. Cabrini,

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<v Speaker 1>Green and the Gold Coast are just around the corner

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<v Speaker 1>from each other. We're talking less than a mile walking distance,

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<v Speaker 1>and the three suspects are also from the projects. It

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<v Speaker 1>will be believable that Lee knew them. He thinks, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I was there the night Dana was attacked. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>did see something or someone. Lee decides he does know

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<v Speaker 1>something about the knight of the crime, and he knows

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<v Speaker 1>who he needs to speak to about it. He head

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<v Speaker 1>straight to Area six to find Ward, McHugh and their boss,

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Richard Zulie. Mary was unimpressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Those detectives are used to be called Area six. They

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<v Speaker 2>were all primnanas. I have to admit he hurt my

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<v Speaker 2>feelings a little bit because I thought that we had

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<v Speaker 2>a rapport and I thought, you know, because it was

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<v Speaker 2>a hitter case and he would have liked to been

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<v Speaker 2>the one that, you know, solved it, because there is

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<v Speaker 2>an elation to solving a case, getting the right guy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, solving it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the last time that Marry and Bob

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<v Speaker 1>ever spoke to Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>See once he got involved like that, we disengaged because

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<v Speaker 2>why would we be involved with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Ward and mceue are all ears. Dana is still in

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<v Speaker 1>a coma, fighting for her life. They want to nail

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<v Speaker 1>this case before anyone else does, and now it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like they might have a reliable witness putting their suspects

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<v Speaker 1>in the frame. It's a win win. Lee is a

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<v Speaker 1>shoe win for the reward money and the police get

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<v Speaker 1>their suspects and maybe some promotions as well. Warden mceu

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<v Speaker 1>are at the ready to help Lee prepare his words

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of making his formal statement to Detective Zuli. I

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<v Speaker 1>was having a coffee and dunkin Donuts when I saw

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<v Speaker 1>three black guys running out.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the yawn.

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<v Speaker 1>Quickest twenty five k Lee would ever make. But a

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<v Speaker 1>few days later, his friends Ward and mcew ask if

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't mind coming back for another statement. A little

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<v Speaker 1>more detail would be really helpful. Lee thinks, sure, why not.

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<v Speaker 1>What starts out is just one statement soon becomes two,

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<v Speaker 1>then three, four, five, six, and each time Ward and

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<v Speaker 1>mcew reminding Lee of some helpful details from the night

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<v Speaker 1>Dana was shot. The exact alley She was shot in,

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<v Speaker 1>a black garage door an ivy covered wall. Before long,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee is not just offering peripheral scraps of information about

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<v Speaker 1>the night of the crime. He's the key to it all,

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<v Speaker 1>the state star witness. So much so he's moved out

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<v Speaker 1>of Cabrini for his own safety, all on the taxpayer's

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<v Speaker 1>dollar when win right. But Ward and mcew are hungry

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<v Speaker 1>for even more information. They need Lee to be closer

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<v Speaker 1>to the action. Maybe he was part of the gang

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<v Speaker 1>that at hacked Dana. They assure Lee not to worry.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all just so they can nail Cheese and

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<v Speaker 1>the other members of the gang. Detective Zuli gives Lee

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<v Speaker 1>his word and so and yet another statement. Lee tells

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<v Speaker 1>Zuli he was the fourth member of the gang. The

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<v Speaker 1>police are getting closer and closer to closing the case,

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<v Speaker 1>and those statements from Lee keep on coming. In total,

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<v Speaker 1>he gives twenty two and then on the tenth of July,

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks after the attack.

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<v Speaker 4>After lingering in a coma for twenty one days, Dana

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<v Speaker 4>Fightler was taken off life support.

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<v Speaker 3>Systems and died. Police are giving out very little information.

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<v Speaker 3>They're being very tight lip. This is a high priority

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<v Speaker 3>case and they're being very careful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a tragedy for the Fightler family and for the CPD.

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<v Speaker 1>The pressure is really on. They are now the hunt

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<v Speaker 1>for a murderer, and thanks to Lee, they finally have

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence that they need to make that arrest. Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan is at work one morning, waiting on his assignment

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<v Speaker 1>for the day when the news breaks Dana Feitler's murderer

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<v Speaker 1>has been found. But when he hears the name, it

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<v Speaker 1>comes as a big shock. Turns out it's someone he

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<v Speaker 1>already knows, Lee Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>When they arrested Lee, I remember saying to my camera, man, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you know this guy they arrested. We've interviewed him, We've

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<v Speaker 4>seen him around. He was always around.

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<v Speaker 1>The switch around is baffling. The CPD's star witness has

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<v Speaker 1>become their prime suspect. But in the end, what choice

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<v Speaker 1>did they have? All those statements Lee was giving, all

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two of them. With each one he was clearly

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<v Speaker 1>incriminating himself. And then, to top it all, the dog

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<v Speaker 1>walker that saw Dana moments before the attack. She's identified Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>not Cheese or any other members of the gang in

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<v Speaker 1>a lineup. Solving a heater case is like winning a championship,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead of a parade, you get a press conference,

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<v Speaker 1>a really big one. After weeks of waiting, wondering, and

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<v Speaker 1>wild speculation, the entire press corps summoned camera's ready Mike's hot.

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<v Speaker 4>Every TV station was there, all the newspapers, every one.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Jordan and his cameraman Mike elbow their way to

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<v Speaker 1>the front. Everyone is thirsty for the money shot, the

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<v Speaker 1>purp walk, that moment when the cuffed perpetrator, flanked by

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<v Speaker 1>police officers, is finally revealed to the public.

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<v Speaker 4>I can only imagine what that must be like to

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<v Speaker 4>come through a door and face a whole wall of

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<v Speaker 4>probably ten or twelve TV cameras in lights, that's how

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<v Speaker 4>big a story. It was just the sound alone of

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<v Speaker 4>the flashbulbs going off and the cameras rolling, and these

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<v Speaker 4>were noisy cameras back in those days, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a cacophony of sound in that room and

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<v Speaker 4>the lights flashing and reporters of screaming, Lee, did you

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<v Speaker 4>do it? Did you kill her?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you shoot her?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Where were you?

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<v Speaker 1>Bob manages to hold his position at the front. It's

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<v Speaker 1>enough to get Lee and I shot.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the look on his face. It was a

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<v Speaker 4>look of shock and amazement, and it was like he

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<v Speaker 4>had seen something unreal. I don't know if he saw

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<v Speaker 4>I think he did. His eyes bulged and it was

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<v Speaker 4>like he wanted to say something but couldn't or was

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<v Speaker 4>too afraid, or was too in all of the moment,

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<v Speaker 4>but he ducked his head and then was escorted away.

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