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Speaker 1: Paul Calvic joins me fresh off the road from Denver.

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Speaker 1: So who might have helped themselves with their showing in

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Speaker 1: the preseason finale. We'll get to that, but first and

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Speaker 1: updates on Darius Robinson and reaction about the Zay Jones news.

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode seven eighty eight, and it

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two, Puda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. HEAs it again?

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Speaker 1: Some more Hurry magic whow here's Craigcreolo. So a quick

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Speaker 1: and I asked right off the top, Paul, when did

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Speaker 1: Dare I say Monday morning wasn't too bad? No?

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Speaker 3: And you know what, you know, if we were to

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Speaker 1: I do not know the answer, but it's a fair question.

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Speaker 1: in a different category, even though he plays running back.

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Speaker 1: So now I feel much better saying we've got four

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Speaker 1: running backs as opposed to five.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I can see that, And you know what, in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, with the new kickoff, maybe there are

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Speaker 3: four specialists on every team, the kicker, the punter, the

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Speaker 3: holder right, and then the long snapper that is KICKERU punter.

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Speaker 3: Let's do that again, CALVC from the top kicker upon

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Speaker 3: a long snapper and then your key return man. Because

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Speaker 3: of the kick new value, what most figure from a

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Speaker 3: twenty two percent return rate is at least gonna double

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Speaker 3: this year. And by the way, I do think it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be chaos in Week one. I do think teams

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Speaker 3: are sitting on a lot of stuff that they're gonna

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Speaker 3: bust out.

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Speaker 1: By the way, did you notice in the second half

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Speaker 1: that at one point, I don't know if it was

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Speaker 1: an agreement between the two head coaches on Sunday that

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Speaker 1: at some point we're just going to kick it deep,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have touchbacks, and you're gonna start your drive

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Speaker 1: at the thirty yard line. Because it was at one

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Speaker 1: point it was consistent. You hear Dave Passe and that's

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Speaker 1: out of bounds, they'll start at the thirty. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think these two coaches realize that we've seen enough.

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Speaker 1: We don't need any more injuries and the extra hitting.

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Speaker 1: Let's just go back to olt and say it's not

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Speaker 1: a play anymore right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, as the injuries piled up, right, especially for the Cardinals,

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Speaker 3: right as you're losing Elijah Jones, and then you're losing

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Speaker 3: Udvad Wilson and Tony Jones Junior and even the new

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Speaker 3: tight end forty seven Sarad and you know, and then

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Speaker 3: I mean, so as you're losing guys, you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we need to get out of this game healthy. So

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Speaker 3: that's a valid point. I do agree with that. But

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Speaker 3: what's interesting is until that point in the game, the

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Speaker 3: Broncos defense looked anything but preseason s. I mean, they're

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Speaker 3: throwing eight man fronts out there, they having six man blitzes,

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Speaker 3: zero blitz I mean Vance Joseph, the former Cardinals defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: was down up a lot of different stuff. And you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe in some ways that's good because you're getting more

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Speaker 3: of a regular season look for a Clayton tune and

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Speaker 3: a Desmond Ritter. But I did find some of that interesting,

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Speaker 3: and I almost asked Jonathan Gannon about it after the game.

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Speaker 3: But the game's over, the preseason is over, and at

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Speaker 3: that point is such a moot point forget about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone at that point was ready to get back

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Speaker 1: to Tempe and start figuring out, all right, how do

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Speaker 1: we whittle this roster down to fifty three players, and

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Speaker 1: we talked about Xavier Weaver, I think with his twelve

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Speaker 1: snaps and again one of those players that yeah, he

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Speaker 1: played but didn't play a lot, he might have locked

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Speaker 1: up a spot. Another player that I think really helped

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Speaker 1: himself on Sunday and throughout the entire preseason, Cameron Thomas.

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Speaker 1: He did play a lot, He recorded another sack, a

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Speaker 1: couple more quarterback hits. Three sacks in two weeks. Now,

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Speaker 1: the quality of competition he's going up against. What are

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Speaker 1: they asking him to do? But how many outside linebackers

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Speaker 1: does this team keep? Is a six? Is it five?

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Speaker 1: You know Zavier Thomas is on this team. He did

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Speaker 1: not play on Sunday. That's a fifth round pick in

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Speaker 1: the final preseason game that did not see the field.

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Speaker 3: He was dressed, he didn't play. I'm really curious to

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Speaker 3: see what his role is against the Bills the first

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Speaker 3: third and nine. Is he running out there? Is it

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Speaker 3: him and Xavi and Collins? Is it m and mac

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Speaker 3: Wilson off the edge. I'm really curious what they envision

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Speaker 3: as sort of their sub speed package right coming off

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Speaker 3: the edge and going after the quarterback. Xavier Thomas look

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Speaker 3: good in those joint practices, look good against starting Colts

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Speaker 3: offensive linemen. And I make that comment because Kylevinnenbasch had

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Speaker 3: in his Stute observation recently he said, you know, you

503
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Speaker 3: got to remember that in the NFL, there's a pretty

504
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Speaker 3: big drop off from a starting offensive lineman to the

505
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Speaker 3: second and third team really skilled, really reliable and effective

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman. They get paid a lot because they're in

507
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Speaker 3: short supply, and so you can get a false positive

508
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Speaker 3: sometimes by watching pass rushers go against second and third

509
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Speaker 3: team offensive lineman because there's such a serious drop off

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Speaker 3: from a starter to a backup. But Xavier Thomas says,

511
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Speaker 3: done it against starters for the Cardinals. He's done it

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Speaker 3: against starters for the Colts, and then we've seen him

513
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Speaker 3: absolutely school dudes in some of the preseason games. So

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Speaker 3: Cardinals obviously have seen enough, not only for a roster spot.

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering, now does it take the next step and

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Speaker 3: what sort of role will he have, because you know

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Speaker 3: the Jonathan Gannon saying, if you have a jersey on

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Speaker 3: game day, you have a role.

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Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck, Xavian Collins your starters, is Xavier Thomas your backup.

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Speaker 1: I mean you got Jesse Luketta, Victor d mccagey, Cameron Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Now there are six, you keep all six. We know

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Speaker 1: how versatile Luketta is, who had another sack on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: D muckagee versatile. Would have liked to see him finish

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Speaker 1: some more of those plays in the preseason, but the

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Speaker 1: fact that he kept getting into the backfield and affecting

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Speaker 1: the quarterback didn't record the sacks. But are you winning

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Speaker 1: most of your one on one matchups? And I think

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Speaker 1: a coach will look at that and say, yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: take that consistent player as opposed to the player that flashes.

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Speaker 1: And there's a ton of names out there that play

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Speaker 1: really well. In that final preseason game, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: fans are like, why don't we keep him? Well, there's

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Speaker 1: a reason it's the final preseason game, and who you're

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Speaker 1: playing against and who you're playing with, and there just

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Speaker 1: might not be a spot for six outside linebackers. Potentially

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Speaker 1: there could be, but then who's the odd man out?

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Speaker 3: If you don't keep sick, especially if you keep three quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: then I'm guessing Cam Thomas does not make this team.

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Speaker 3: That's sort of the direct result of some of the

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Speaker 3: other position group battles. Five running backs? Are you keeping

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Speaker 3: six outside linebackers?

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Speaker 1: Probably not. You can't.

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Speaker 3: You're not afforded that luxury. It's sort of like remember

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Speaker 3: in March Madness, right, and you get down to the

545
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Speaker 3: selection show, and then after they name the sixty four

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Speaker 3: team field, there's the last four in and the first

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Speaker 3: four out. You know Cam Thomas is gonna be on

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Speaker 3: one of those two lists. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be. Is so on the edge right now.

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Speaker 3: And then remember if another team does claim him, they

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Speaker 3: have to put him on their fifty three. So is

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Speaker 3: there possibility that Cam Thomas ends up in the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: practice squad perhaps, and then the first shoe that falls

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Speaker 3: off he comes gets the first call up.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's really interesting to see because he was effective. He

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Speaker 3: told us after the game. He left it all out there.

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Speaker 3: He knows. He knows he's hanging in the crosshairs right

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Speaker 3: now of every roster decision. But Jesse Luketto looked really

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Speaker 3: good talking to him this offseason. Have him on the

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Speaker 3: big red rage. He's quicker, he's lighter, he says. The

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Speaker 3: game has slowed down mentally for him, just in terms of,

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Speaker 3: you know, reading his keys, and then he's an absolute

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Speaker 3: beast on special teams. He is a key performer there.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's Cam Thomas. And then it just

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Speaker 3: comes down to the numbers game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tuesday afternoon teams need to have no more

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Speaker 1: than fifty three players on their roster, and these are

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Speaker 1: tough decisions as far as how many at a particular position.

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Speaker 1: And then you weigh that fourth or fifth guy at

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Speaker 1: a position versus the fourth or fifth guy at another position,

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Speaker 1: and you kind of balance, all right, what am I

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Speaker 1: losing if we do not keep this guy? And then

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Speaker 1: also special teams how much a factor and a role

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Speaker 1: Jeff Rodgers plays in this discussion because he might like

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Speaker 1: a certain player and that's a cornerback. So all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, now you've got an extra cornerback that maybe

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Speaker 1: you weren't anticipating. You're wondering, well, why do they keep

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Speaker 1: that player? Well, yes, he might be further down on

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Speaker 1: the depth chart at that position group, but he's a

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Speaker 1: lot higher on special teams. And if you have a

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Speaker 1: uniform on Sunday, you're involved in special.

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Speaker 3: Teams like for example, Dan Shasena, who really had a

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Speaker 3: great start of the preseason then suffered an injury. Not

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Speaker 3: exactly sure where that stands, but we didn't see him

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Speaker 3: either in practice or in the last game. You know,

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Speaker 3: things all of a sudden quiet, Okay, is that health related?

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Speaker 3: Is that by design? What exactly is future? I will

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Speaker 3: say this, with a new kickoff format, a guy who

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Speaker 3: runs a four to three, who arguably could be the

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Speaker 3: fastest guy in the team if you believe some of

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Speaker 3: the anecdotal stuff inside that locker room, his role isn't

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Speaker 3: the same on this team based on the kickoff change.

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Speaker 3: You don't need that ultra fast guy and kickoff cover

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Speaker 3: anymore because now you're five yards apart. So what sort

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Speaker 3: of body type do you covet if you're Jeff Rogers

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Speaker 3: on special teams? And how different is it than a

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Speaker 3: year ago? And how does that affect roster construction?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: So that's all, but you're you're absolutely spot on. The

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Speaker 3: special teams coordinator usually gets to say in the final

602
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Speaker 3: three to five spots on the roster because they're primary

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Speaker 3: roles on the four special teams.

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Speaker 1: The last topic, and it's been a topic all preseason,

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Speaker 1: and that we buried the lead here on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two presented by a Hundai partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. But backup quarterback and from the sideline

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Speaker 1: your perspective again, Paul, The numbers the production favor Clayton tune.

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Speaker 1: How much, though, is he penalized for that final throw,

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Speaker 1: the fatal pick six, when as a backup you have

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Speaker 1: to be ready at a moment's notice to come in.

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Speaker 1: Passion Wolf talked about it on the broadcast. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: hate it and bad situation, but that's the life of

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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback to come in. Now. It would have

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Speaker 1: been better visually if the ball had been tipped or deflected,

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Speaker 1: but it was so well behind andre Bicelli that he

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Speaker 1: didn't even have a chance and it looked like it

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Speaker 1: was going directly to the Broncos defender. And then ninety

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Speaker 1: four yards later, Well, that was just the end of

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Speaker 1: what was a not a good performance score wise on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: And it's such an unusual circumstance. Right, you were in

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Speaker 3: the game and then you figure you're not playing, at

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Speaker 3: least in a regular season game. You realize you can

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Speaker 3: go into any point. But at that situation, thing and

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Speaker 3: I'm done. You probably had sunflower seeds the whole deal.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was probably his worst throw of entire camp.

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Speaker 3: Based on what we've all seen practice, joint practice, in

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Speaker 3: the games, I would say this, let's say it zoom out,

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Speaker 3: and if you're asking for my opinion, thanks for asking.

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Speaker 3: I would say body of work, Clayton Tune wins a job,

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Speaker 3: final impression, closing argument, if you will, Desmond Ridder, I

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Speaker 3: thought Desmond Ritter came out and in Denver, guess what

633
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Speaker 3: he did show? The accuracy, did show, the anticipation, did

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Speaker 3: show some decisive decision making running the offense. You know

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Speaker 3: what did Jonathan Gannon tell us at halftime what he

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Speaker 3: wanted to see out of Desmond Ritter in the second half?

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Speaker 3: Put points on the board, protect the football, So he

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Speaker 3: did both. You got to remember he has seventeen career

639
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Speaker 3: starts in his first two years in the league as

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Speaker 3: opposed to one for Clayton Tune, so game experience favors

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Speaker 3: Desmond Ridder. I'd say it's multiple choice right now, Craig,

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Speaker 3: it's a Clayton Tune B Desmond Ritter c both d

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Speaker 3: another quarterback two for one. Both are gone and a

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Speaker 3: Taylor Heineke comes available. Because in Atlanta you have Kirk

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Speaker 3: Cousins and Michael Pennix. Are they keeping three? In Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: you have Sam Ellinger, who's on the edge there has

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Speaker 3: a sudden you have Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco. Are

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Speaker 3: you keeping a third? We all know the new NFL

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Speaker 3: rule where you can elevate an emergency quarterback on game

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Speaker 3: day from the practice squad, So how many teams are

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Speaker 3: even keeping three because of that? And then how many

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Speaker 3: guys might be available that you view as a better

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Speaker 1: And you have a week and a half that practice

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday potentially after waiver claims. Could you get if

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Speaker 1: they decide option D quarterback comes in on Wednesday or Thursday,

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Speaker 1: then yeah, it's a quick turnaround to get you up

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Speaker 1: to speed to be that backup. But for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: Clayton Tooon clears waivers and you bring them to the

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Speaker 1: practice squad. Now you've got someone who could be elevated

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Speaker 1: on game day, yep, who has the experience as your backup.

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Speaker 1: Even though you have someone who has more experience and

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Speaker 1: has a fifty three man roster spot, but now Clayton

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Speaker 1: Tune is ahead of him, just for that particular Sunday.

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Speaker 3: And then looking last year, your starting quarterback was acquired

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Speaker 3: after the preseason, after camp ended. So if you did

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Speaker 3: it last year with Josh Dobbs, you most definitely can

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Speaker 3: do it with QB two if you're picking that guy

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Speaker 3: up somewhere else off the street after all the cuts

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Speaker 3: from the thirty one other team. So I think it's

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Speaker 3: a possibility. I think it's definitely out there. It's all

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Speaker 3: going to depend over the next thirty six hours who

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Speaker 3: becomes available. And then all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's why you have your pro personnel and advanced scouting

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Speaker 3: to department, and you have scouts all over watching all

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Speaker 3: the other preseason games, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: you grab that film. Okay, is this guy better than

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Speaker 3: our guy? And who knows? They made a bold move

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Speaker 3: last year, obviously moving away from Cole McCoy bringing in

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Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs. Who's to say it can't happen again.

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Speaker 1: By the way, did Wolf happen to say anything on

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Speaker 1: the fly on the flight back how he was the

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Speaker 1: fact that Tip Rieman didn't see the field at all.

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Speaker 1: Someone that he is was adamant that he wanted to

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Speaker 1: see play against the Denver Broncos, and there he was

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Speaker 1: not one of the tight ends on the football field.

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Speaker 3: Wolf, that's enough out of you. Okay, You're just gonna

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Speaker 3: accept whatever the plan is. He's already made the team.

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Speaker 3: Why go out there and have him risk getting injured

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Speaker 3: be against a bunch of second, third, and four teamers

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Speaker 3: in a meaningless preseason game. Wolf, just just you know

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Speaker 3: you got less than two weeks. Just wait to see

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Speaker 3: the real deal in your hometown of Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Week one. By the way, congratulations burg Gang, and congratulations

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Speaker 1: to everyone involved. We have survived the preseason. It is

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Speaker 1: behind us. It is over. For whatever reason, Paul, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's just me, but it felt like this was a

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Speaker 1: long preseason and even it was, well, was it the

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Speaker 1: eleven or twelve minute mark of the third quarter and

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Speaker 1: Pash mentioned something as mentioned, has the Witching Hour began yet?

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, that's the fourth quarter. Now, I

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Speaker 1: think it's already started.

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Speaker 3: I asked him in the pregame show. The pregame show,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, refresh my memory. Win is the Witching

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Speaker 3: Hour and Dave's like, oh, it's all right in the

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Speaker 3: Witching Hour.

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Speaker 1: So keeven earlier than the second half. Yeah, so you know.

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Speaker 3: And and there was Hasan Hall assuming the role of

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Speaker 3: William Powell. And after the game, I'll just tell you

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Speaker 3: Hasan Hall he was gassed. So to come full circle, Denver,

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Speaker 3: the stink in fifty two to eighty did take a

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Speaker 3: toll on the on the star and on the guy

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Speaker 3: who got the bulk of the workload for the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: at running back. I so mission accomplished, Denver. If you

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Speaker 3: want to feel better about yourself, the whole elevation thing, okay, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, I guess we deem it a success.

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Speaker 1: You guys have the elevation, we have the heat, and

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Speaker 1: I think right now I'll take the heat. On that note,

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Speaker 1: we will put all it on. This edition of Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Amandre,

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Speaker 1: our associate producer Cody Fincher. For Paul Calvic, I'm quig

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Speaker 1: real aloof We'll talk to you next time here on

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