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Speaker 1: To the Black Guy Who Tips podcast. I listen because

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Speaker 1: of Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: I drove away from the house of Mabel Jones thinking

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Speaker 2: of all of this.

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Speaker 1: I drove away as always thinking of you.

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Speaker 2: I do not believe that we can stop them, Samori,

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Speaker 2: because they must ultimately stop themselves. And still I urge

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Speaker 2: you to struggle. Struggle for the memory of your ancestors,

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Speaker 2: Struggle for wisdom, struggle for warmth of the Mecca, Struggle

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Speaker 2: for your grandmother and grandfather, for your name. But do

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Speaker 2: not struggle for the dreamers. Hope for them, Pray for

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Speaker 2: them if you are so moved, but do not pin

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Speaker 2: your struggle on their conversion. The dreamers will have to

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Speaker 2: learn to struggle themselves to understand that the field for

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Speaker 2: their dream, the stage where they have painted themselves white,

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Speaker 2: is the deathbed of all of us. All the dream

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Speaker 2: is the same habit that endangers the planet, the same

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Speaker 2: habit that sees our bodies stowed away in prisons and

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Speaker 2: get ghettos. I saw these ghettos driving back from doctor Jones' home.

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Speaker 2: They were the same ghettos I had seen in Chicago

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Speaker 2: all those years ago, the same ghettos where my mother

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Speaker 2: was raised when my father was raised. Through the windshield,

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Speaker 2: I saw the mark of these ghettos, the abundance of

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Speaker 2: beauty shops, choir churches, liquor stores, and crumbling housing, and

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Speaker 2: I felt the old fear through the windshield. I saw

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Speaker 2: the rain coming down in sheets. Hey, welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Black Hotels Podcast. I am your host Rod, joined us

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Speaker 2: always by my co host Herry, and we are.

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Speaker 1: Live on Tuesday. On the Tuesday today was yeah.

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Speaker 2: I got on know how I got caught up, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: Today's excerpt is from excerpt is from Between the World

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Speaker 2: and Me by Tannahsee Coats. It's the very last paragraph

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Speaker 2: of it, and it was after he had visited the

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Speaker 2: mother of his who was killed by the police, Prince Jones,

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Speaker 2: I believe it was his name, and they had this

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Speaker 2: conversation and this chapter starts and it's talking about the dreamers,

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Speaker 2: and not the dreamers that that way a lot of

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Speaker 2: people think of dreams of like the Dream Act and immigrants.

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Speaker 2: He's talking about people who dream that they have created

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Speaker 2: this false thing of we are white people. And he's like,

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Speaker 2: that is killing everybody. And so until they give up

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Speaker 2: the false the falsehood.

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Speaker 1: Of what has happened.

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Speaker 2: The dream is going to kill us all, you know,

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Speaker 2: and he consistently brings it up in this book, which

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Speaker 2: is so interesting because I think when people think of dreams,

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Speaker 2: we don't we think of happy things.

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Speaker 1: You know, versus nightmares.

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Speaker 2: We think of ethereal like dreamers dreams, but their dream

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Speaker 2: is a nightmare for the rest of us, and talks

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Speaker 2: about how the country is built on the fact that

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Speaker 2: white people are just where we have to forget in

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Speaker 2: order to continue to exist because we're never reckoning with

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Speaker 2: our past. So we always forget the victims, and we

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Speaker 2: forget the brutality, and we forget I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: when you see this challenge the critical race theory, quote

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Speaker 2: unquote that's happening, and then you see what they're taking

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Speaker 2: out of the curriculum, and it's Martin Luther King and

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Speaker 1: Shavez, and shit, You're like, this is not.

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Speaker 2: This is about making sure we don't we forget, we

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Speaker 2: don't acknowledge that the kids grow up and they they

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Speaker 2: don't know our truth, they don't know our history, and

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Speaker 2: they and it and it's like they're living in a

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Speaker 2: this country and yet all the signs and all the

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Speaker 2: in this this fantasy land where whiteness has has has

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Speaker 2: and there's no legacy and there's no restoration and there's

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Speaker 2: as if these things happen in the magical world far

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Speaker 2: This and this this book is to his son, which

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Speaker 2: one of the reasons that a lot of academics, a

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Speaker 1: He's not in the echelne. He didn't come in the

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Speaker 2: You know, the same place that won't give Cornell West tenure.

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Speaker 2: don't like him, or maybe they still don't, but a

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Speaker 1: He doesn't pin it on the prayers and the.

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Speaker 2: Ancestors will change these white people's hearts and then we

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Speaker 2: that probably isn't gonna happen. I don't really see a

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Speaker 2: I'm not rooting against it, but like, nah, don't dedicate

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Speaker 2: It when day and they'll be these like good white

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Speaker 2: don't do that. They need to if they're gonna learn that,

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Speaker 2: they gotta learn themselves, because they're the ones that have

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Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up. You can't want it for them,

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Speaker 2: I think if more black people understood that, there will

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Speaker 2: black people about how to act, what kind of revolution

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Speaker 1: Would relax cause it's like, it really don't matter what

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Speaker 2: Do your work, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: We're in the direct.

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Speaker 2: Everything that happened as a result of this is the

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Speaker 2: and that was too much. He was culturally black, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, this is what I felt.

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Speaker 2: This is what I see when I ride past the

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Speaker 1: To the hood hood and the like rowhouses and shit that.

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Speaker 2: It, and it does feel like when you ride down

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Speaker 2: Doing bar cross, it does feel like they're living in

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Speaker 2: from the fact that this dream needs to happen and

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Speaker 2: much to make sure that that discontinues to exist. And

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Speaker 3: I also, for me, the thing about the the dream

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Speaker 1: We were never shackled.

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Speaker 4: New racism until you're a little bit older.

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Speaker 3: You know, we didn't grow up in the generation though

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Speaker 3: And the generation that had all black schools and all

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Speaker 3: Y'all have lied to me.

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Speaker 3: I have opened up my eyes. Black lives do matter.

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Speaker 3: Asian lives do matter, translves do matter. I'm ready to

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Speaker 4: There's something wrong with you.

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Speaker 1: And why are you telling me I can't march?

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Speaker 3: Why are you telling me that that I'm just supposed

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Speaker 3: to deal with high student loan debt.

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Speaker 4: So I do take that statement back. I do believe that.

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Speaker 3: Every generation does have to struggle, every generation does have its.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired. I don't want to do this. You have

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Speaker 2: freeing the slaves. It's about blah blah blah. But what

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00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 2: America has done to reh frame that entire thing is

443
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: is what helps white people live in that dream. Now,

444
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: your ancestors that are Confederate, were Confederates, are honorable. They

445
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: fought a war of honor. They fought a war about

446
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: states rights. They fought aw don't they right? It was

447
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,959
Speaker 2: a war of northern aggression. And if you ever questioned it,

448
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: you didn't go, Hey, white people in this country are racist,

449
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: They'll go no, because we paid the price in the.

450
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: War, the Civil War for your freedom. You should be thanking.

451
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 2: Us well who killed the people, because it wasn't black

452
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: people that killed them, It wasn't some foreign country that

453
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: came in and killed killed. Those are your fellow countrymen.

454
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 2: You killed over fucking agreed of the money for slavery.

455
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: Right.

456
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: So, but but that won't allowed him to dream if

457
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: you said that way. So we have to talk about

458
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: the war nor the aggression, or we have to talk

459
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: about you know, the brave men who fought in the

460
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: Civil War, brother against.

461
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: Brothers, Confederacy.

462
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a clash of ideals and all this other ship.

463
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: This stuff allows them to dream and those mechanisms are strong.

464
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: They're strong, and it's.

465
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Speaker 1: A hell of a drug. Yeah, it is a hell

466
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Speaker 1: of a drug.

467
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: And I think you know, like I said, I I mean,

468
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't feel that pressure that have to be to

469
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of myself that it's

470
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Speaker 2: all gonna just.

471
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Speaker 1: Go away one day. And if people want to believe that,

472
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Speaker 1: that's fine.

473
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Speaker 2: But you know, this is the kind of shit that

474
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: speaks to me from his writing, is that it's not

475
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 2: flowery bullshit. You know, it's not bringing in God and

476
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: Jesus and telling me how it's gonna be the truth

477
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: and and and we just keep praying until they wake up.

478
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: It's like, nah, you know what I'm saying. And he

479
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: took a lot of heat for this at the time.

480
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: I think now a lot more people are probably on

481
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: board with us, But at the time you took a

482
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: lot of heat for writing this ship because it was like,

483
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: how dare you?

484
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: And every interview start the same to do you have hope? Now?

485
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: How do you have Do you have hope? Now that

486
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: you've finally written this book?

487
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 4: But he was going on tour.

488
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's very interesting how much hope has been

489
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: used to basically.

490
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: To me to what's the best word.

491
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 2: To make to make everything impotent, to make our points

492
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: that we're making in the moment impotent, because yes, because

493
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: well hope one day this will change.

494
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: Don't you have hope?

495
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: And it's like, no, And if I tell you that,

496
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm letting you off the hook, if I tell you

497
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 2: that there's anything to look around and go, I'm hopeful

498
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: that this will end now, I would be lying to

499
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: you because you haven't done the work to deserve it,

500
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And it's up to y'all,

501
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: and y'all don't have a willpower.

502
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: To do it.

503
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: So it's you know what I'm saying, Like not in

504
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: a totality, the only reason black people.

505
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: Do this work is because our lives are on the line.

506
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: Come on, we didn't have to, we wouldn't agree, Like

507
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: it's that simple. Black people, for the most part, I

508
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: just want to let their fucking lines and be left

509
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 2: alone and the funk alone. It's like we end up

510
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: being in the in the fucking activism seat and uh

511
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: and the and the speaking on race seat because we

512
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 2: don't have a real choice.

513
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, out of we don't want to not exist.

514
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: So but like this, it's like black people have always

515
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: been the canary in the coal mine.

516
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 4: We have always been the wounding animal.

517
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: With our backs up against the wall, like you know,

518
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 3: all our lives we had to fight. Literally since we

519
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: came to this country, all we've ever done was fighting.

520
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 3: Like that's it, and it's and it's been passed on

521
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: from generation to generation even if you don't know. It's

522
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: almost like an instinct because everything around you will actually

523
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 3: put you in the fight or flight even if you

524
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: want it to a not And people deal with it

525
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 3: in various different ways. You know, some people deny it,

526
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: some people embrace it, you know, some people run away

527
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 3: from it, some people accept it. You know, people deal

528
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: with it in various different types of ways. But no

529
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: matter how you look at it, that fight or flight

530
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: sometimes will dictate how you respond to things around you.

531
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the show. There's plenty of

532
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: stuff to get into.

533
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: Coronavirus news.

534
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 5: Coronavirus Yeah, new shit, go vive, infrared crypt don't collaborate, Sean, Yeah,

535
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: motherfuckers can't gather no more, can't party, no more movie

536
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 5: telling us over a thing of the past is so long.

537
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 5: And these motherfucker's not wearing masks so dumb, or they're

538
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 5: wearing under their nose, And I'm like, huh right and carrying.

539
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 5: I think you young gotta keep educating because the leaders

540
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 5: are acting stupid. It's fucking this nation, this pandemic we're facing.

541
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 5: We all we got in the shows. I just got

542
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 5: over this COVID and this shit ain't no joke. For

543
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 5: two hundred and twenty dozen plus they make it like me,

544
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 5: I'm not taking it for granted because this shit is frightening.

545
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 5: It's understanding how basic the virtue of learning is. They

546
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 5: don't give a tam about were not educating kids. Yeah,

547
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 5: fuck that COVID nineteen. It's unseen, it's streeping in it,

548
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 5: and for you to free again. Huh So, fuck that

549
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 5: COVID nineteen. It's unseen, it's streeping in it, and for

550
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 5: you to breed again.

551
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: Coronavirus time, let's talk about it. Uh Maderna and uh

552
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: Poser are seeking authorization to vaccinate some of the youngest Americans,

553
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: So they're expanding their trial for younger children.

554
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: So I think this is up to age five or

555
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: something like that.

556
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: They said they have announced clinical trials of doses of

557
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: their COVID nineteen vaccine shots to be tested in children

558
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: as young as six months old. Oh yeah, right now,

559
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 2: I think the age is twelve. So they're trying to,

560
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: you know, get down to the kids because it's looking

561
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: like yeah.

562
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: And you might as well go as low as you

563
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: can go, because.

564
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 3: You want parents that are like, I really can't do anything.

565
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: I'm vaccinated, really can't go anywhere schools about the open particular,

566
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: like you said, if you're under the age of twelve,

567
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, now I gotta wait two years or

568
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: three years of you know, my child is two and

569
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: a half, Like, oh my gosh, Like what am I

570
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: going to do while we're waiting for them to do this.

571
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Yep.

572
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: Let's see in Utah hospitals swell with unvaccinated COVID nineteen patients.

573
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, this shit is gonna it's becoming

574
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: a disease of two Americas, and it's one of the

575
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: americas is the Republican America. You know, people don't want

576
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: talk about that shit. And now they're trying to dive

577
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: back like they never said all.

578
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: That stuff, but.

579
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: Right now to be like we told y'all to get

580
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: back to they know you didn't bitch no, y'all lack

581
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: like we can't go back and roll the tape a

582
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: lot of bullshit that y'all been saying for months.

583
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: Right, So it's getting uh, it's getting kind of interesting

584
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: out there. We had people in our twenties, thirties, and

585
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: even forties who are so desperately sick, and we're seeking

586
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: all patients who are unvaccinated. It's this new terrain. Y'ahll

587
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: shared an article about somebody who died. We talked about

588
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: him yesterday and uh, this guy was on my page.

589
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, well he probably he must have

590
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: had HIV or something. And I was like, One, that's

591
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: interesting that that's where you went, because if you're talking

592
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: about pre existing conditions or co morbidity's there were a

593
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: lot of things you.

594
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: Skipped past to get the HIV. But okay, whatever the

595
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: second thing was.

596
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: That was the worst thing they could have told everybody

597
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: was the co morbidityse things because people.

598
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: Dot all the time that don't have no.

599
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: First of all, co morbidity is extremely fucking general, like

600
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: it's a lot of high blood pressure, nigga, you don't got.

601
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: High blood pressure or whatever, like, it could be a

602
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: lot of things. But the other.

603
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: Part of it was that it really makes people think

604
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: all these people are just dying because like they couldn't

605
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: hack it right, and that's all there is to it, Like, oh,

606
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: it must have just in. And then it just makes

607
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: people go, so I don't need to get vaccinated, right,

608
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: you know, like do I have to get vaccinated? I

609
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: mean it sounds like, uh, it's only people that got

610
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: you must have secretly had HIV. You know, you're making

611
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: shit up right, let's see. But yeah, that's utah.

612
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: But not to be out done, oh shit, not to

613
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: be outdone. Black people got involved.

614
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: There was a Rolling Loud festive, and a lot of

615
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: these musical festivals are just now kicking out, but there

616
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: was a Rolling Loud festival and now people from that

617
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: are starting to say that they are coming back home

618
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: and got COVID because they was packed up in there,

619
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: no social digitsing, no mask. You can see all the

620
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: ship them dancing and all the shit up on each.

621
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: Dan's wave of people.

622
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

623
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

624
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: Rolling Loud put out like something on that website to

625
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: be like, you know, practice safe behavior if you and

626
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: if you're not vaccinated, you can get a shot at

627
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: rolling loud, right, But people obviously was not taking them

628
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: up on that, and why motherfuckers got COVID now or

629
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: they coming home talking about having COVID anecdotal now.

630
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: But they'll have the data on that soon, yeah, they will.

631
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: And it's also one of the things that that's the

632
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: biggest reason why a lot of festival and it was

633
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: like we're not doing shit because we don't want to

634
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: be held accountable. We don't want to be the place

635
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: that everybody comes to and we have these outbreaks, you know,

636
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: and eventually, particularly like your bigger, bigger, I mean there.

637
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: Were big stars that just don't get me wrong.

638
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: But when some of the bigger stars start doing like

639
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: their tours and shit, I could see you know, a

640
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: like ticket Masters some of these other places having some

641
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: form of a way like hey, if you get COVID,

642
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: that's on you, nigga, like you on your own, Like

643
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: if you come to this event, you are taking the

644
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: chance of a possibility of catching it, and we are

645
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: not held accountable. Noise that our responsibility to be accountable

646
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: for you.

647
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it all comes down to accountability and lawsuits and

648
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: money and shit.

649
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: But I don't Yeah, we'll see what happens.

650
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I honestly, we've gone along what almostly two

651
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: years into this thing. We haven't seen a lot of

652
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: lawsuits from people that got COVID at a at some

653
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: place like it's I know the chicken plant was one,

654
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: but we haven't really seen a lot of losuits about it.

655
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: Now.

656
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: Maybe that's because a lot of companies basically were following

657
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: in line, or maybe the lawsuits didn't make big news.

658
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: But I can think several big companies that didn't follow

659
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: the guidelines that did have COVID outbreaks, and still I

660
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Speaker 2: don't see anything about lawsuits for like Tesla and shit

661
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: like that. And those are major companies that the news

662
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: would have covered if they were being sued.

663
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Speaker 3: I think that a lot of the changes in the laws,

664
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Speaker 3: like people fed to realize. Trump's whole thing was to

665
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: get rid of a lot of laws. So in some states,

666
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: you know them class action lawsuits, they're making very very

667
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: difficult to do. In some states it's not you know,

668
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: before people could just be like you got loss suit,

669
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Speaker 3: I got lawsuit, let's all go together like class.

670
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: Actually, lawsuits still do.

671
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: Exist, don't get me wrong, but they make it a

672
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Speaker 3: lot more difficult to do.

673
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but y'all also understand that they didn't get those

674
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: things that Mitch McConnell wanted to make it so you

675
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: couldn't sue your company forgetting you COVID or business. Okay,

676
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: So they never actually got that specific law pass okay,

677
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: to make it so you can't sue. So I'm not

678
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: saying it won't happen, but I'm surprised it hasn't happened.

679
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: And maybe people are waiting until the pandemic is officially

680
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: over before they really can gather all that data and

681
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: everybody has died that is gonna die and shit.

682
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wouldn't be surprising if people You may

683
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: have people that soon and just settled because it's just

684
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 3: more conveniate to settled than to fight you individually.

685
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: Could be could be anti ask Huntington Beach restaurant says

686
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: it will only serve unvaccinated diners. Yes, you heard me correctly,

687
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: unvaccinated diners. I know you're probably thinking, did wait, did

688
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: I hear Rod wrong? He said they will only serve

689
00:34:49,200 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: vaccinated people? No, you heard me right, unvaccinated? Mm hmm yep.

690
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: How do you know? How would they know?

691
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: You know?

692
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: Just like, how would you know if I am?

693
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a very good question, Karen. How would

694
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: you know if.

695
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: Because I could be vaccinated and be like, fuck it,

696
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: I could just come around y'all too, like I'm not

697
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 3: gonna die.

698
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 1: So I could be unvaccinated and walk up.

699
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: In there and and breathing everybody's face and everything else

700
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: too it, don't you know? So just like it's impossible

701
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: for unvaccinated people, you know, to to one hundred percent proved.

702
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: It's hard to reverse too, And they said, you do

703
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: need to prove it.

704
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: How I ain't no paperwork to say I'm not vaccinated

705
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: to fuck yeah, come in and be like I'm proud

706
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: to be an American and saloop.

707
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: They'll be like, come on in, buddy, the fuck am

708
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: I supposed to prove it? Why are you so laughing?

709
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's okay.

710
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: I didn't realize I s no. I think it's I

711
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: don't know if eybody fucked up the but yes, I agree,

712
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: I agree.

713
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to have two American egos on my T

714
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: shirt and don't pread on me on the backside.

715
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 4: How do you prove that I'm unvaccinated?

716
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: What is happening in hell? I think if you come

717
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: in a Maga shirt, they just and a hat. They

718
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: just know.

719
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: You know, they're not gonna let none of the black

720
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: people in because obviously we would be infiltrating.

721
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now, I don't know.

722
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: That's all black people that's anti vaccinatd some hotel shit on.

723
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: They let you in. They be like, that's the proof.

724
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's let me see your YouTube history.

725
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: That's how they know.

726
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: Let me see your Facebook, let me see all your

727
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: Facebook ads in the algorithm on your first page, and let.

728
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Me see your YouTube video history. And then they'd be like, okay,

729
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: yeah he's anti vacs. Come on in. Yeah, how can

730
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: you prove that? You asked me?

731
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 4: And I go know and I walk in there, I

732
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 4: could still be vaccinated. You don't know.

733
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they can probably can tell from the coffin

734
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: when you come in.

735
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, come on, you got it. Come on, you

736
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: know you ain't got no vaccine.

737
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: You like you death door. You come on in.

738
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: They'll be like, smell that you can't come on in?

739
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, is this.

740
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how they get you. If you walk in

741
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: and be like, what's so good, they like, get the

742
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: fuck out, poser, you fucking poser.

743
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: You have been vaccinated?

744
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: Beat it.

745
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll tell you what. You won't catch me,

746
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: try and teach them a lesson.

747
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm not running up in there in the mask being

748
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: like you're gonna serve me anyway.

749
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: Right, Like, like they're not gonna have people walking in

750
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: there going I'm vaccinated and not demand service.

751
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: This is gonna be the new segregation. I have the

752
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: fucking uh COVID Z only or whatever you gotta use

753
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: the COVID only water found they coughing this.

754
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: COVI is on the bathroom. Yeah, you get your vaccinated

755
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: ass out of here. Boy, you beat it. You won't

756
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: have to worry about me doing a sit in. Y'all

757
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: got it.

758
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: The CDC urges vaccinated people in COVID hot spots to

759
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: resume mask wearing indoors. So people, this is such a

760
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: weird thing to be mad about. In my opinion, let

761
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: me just say that I get that people are frustrated.

762
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: But the data changed, so that God has changed. Yeah,

763
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: the science changed.

764
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: It didn't seem like people trying to act like and

765
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: I think it's just because the nature of our politics

766
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: and it's become a political thing, and so they think

767
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: it's like quote unquote flip flopping.

768
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: But I'm like, no, the delta variant is here. It

769
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: is tearing through society. People aren't doing the right thing.

770
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: So you go back to Americakan, this does not seem

771
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: to me, like, what the fuck this is because of

772
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: them that we have the delta variant. I'm not sure

773
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: if you've been paying attention to America, but the delta

774
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: variant getting here was going to happen, and it's spreading

775
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. Guidance or no guidance, because the

776
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: problem isn't the vaccinated people. The problem is these unvaccinated

777
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: people who are like, I'm not giving up anything. I'm

778
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: not wearing a mask, right, I'm not social distancing, and

779
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm not getting vaccinated. And it's not that I'm confused

780
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: by the CDC guidelines. I willfully am willing to die

781
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: to prove some type of point of that no one

782
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: seems to understand except them him.

783
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm willfully willing to die unknownly that that's the choice

784
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: that I make but I but dying is a part

785
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: of the other plane.

786
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: They willing to risk it to prove something, And it's

787
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: funny to watch people dunk on the CDC one. I'm

788
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: just like, but these numbers weren't here too much ago, right,

789
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: So what are you even talking about? Like numbers were

790
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: trending down because people were being vaccinated and the vaccines worked.

791
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: Now here comes a delta variant, much more, spreads much faster,

792
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: puts money, more particles in the air.

793
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you gotta go back putting on a mask.

794
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 2: And what's wild is you had a two month period

795
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: where if people would have done the right thing, we

796
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't be fighting like this agreed, So I don't know

797
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: the thing is. And the other part that's weird is

798
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: when people go, well, they'll they'll follow you on this

799
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: logic and then stop short. It's like, okay, So there

800
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: was a period of time where it was falling and

801
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: if you were vaccinated, you were pretty much safe no

802
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: matter where you went, what you did.

803
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: Okay, we agree there, all right? Cool?

804
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: And that then the delta variant was in India two

805
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: months ago, but it was trending down, right, So you

806
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: can take off the mask if you're vaccinated. The guidance said,

807
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: if you are unvaccinated, nothing will change.

808
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: Nothing would change for you either.

809
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: Get vaccinated or wear your mask in social distance. So

810
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: they actually never told anybody who wasn't vaccinated who to

811
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: change any behavior.

812
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 3: Right.

813
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: What happens is in America, there were a bunch of

814
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: people who weren't going to get vaccinated, and we're never

815
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: gonna listen to.

816
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: The CDC anyway. I agree, in which case, I'm like,

817
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: what is the fucking problem?

818
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: They're like, you're trying to solve for the kids that

819
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: are cutting up in class. You can't because they're gonna

820
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: cut up regardless of what you do.

821
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: Right. That can't, Like, everything can't be the teacher's fault.

822
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: Come on, you know what I'm saying.

823
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: So the people that are smart, the people that are

824
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: plugged in, are like, okay, so no mask. Shit starts

825
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: changing the first thing they do, Hey, let's put the.

826
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: Mask back on. Wow, Wow, get it together? Like what

827
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: it is together? This is what it looks like when

828
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: it's together.

829
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: You know what else happened in the other countries when

830
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: the when the delta variant came there.

831
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: They did the same thing. Yes, they did it's just

832
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: what the fuck science is gonna demand of you.

833
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: If you're down with science, and you truly aren't, then

834
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: you need to just go ahead.

835
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: And understand that this is gonna be the new thing.

836
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: Until this thing is gone, it's gonna probably they're probably

837
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: at some point gonna even have to do like some

838
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 2: level of like yellow red alerting.

839
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: Yep, it's gonna be mask on, mask off, mask mask.

840
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: Off, because because unfortunately we have children as citizens, and

841
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: I don't mean actual children, we have people who are

842
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: who can get vaccinated and act like children, and those

843
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: motherfuckers are just gonna they will let us die. They

844
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 2: they don't give a fuck, So you know, the best thing.

845
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: You can do.

846
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: Because they were basically like, if you're in an area

847
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: where it's not a lot of transmission, then you're fine,

848
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But in these high transmission

849
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: areas where you're seeing the number spike, you gotta mask up,

850
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: you know, And this is just gonna be the way

851
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: it is. I think, and I think what's funny is

852
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: to me because this is the kind of mind I have.

853
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: I look at the alternative because people shitting on the CDC.

854
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: But you know what, would have to me, would have

855
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: been bad, is it? The CDC says, well, we can't

856
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: look weak in front of everybody. No, mask don't worry

857
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: about it, because that's cause y'all gonna say, y'all gonna

858
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: say that we flip flop even though we're just reacting

859
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: to new data, because and no one ever considered that,

860
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 2: which is you know, it's just it's just frustrating because

861
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: it's well meaning people that I know that think they're

862
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: being smart and snarky, but it's like that shit is.

863
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: Really just stupid.

864
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: This is exactly what the fuck good organization is supposed

865
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: to do. The one time they were, in my opinion,

866
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: the one time they truly fucked up was under Donald Trump,

867
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: who made who was like, yeah, I'm putting the whole

868
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: country to burn, so and if y'all say anything, I'm

869
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: gonna fucking fire you and get somebody in here they'll

870
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: tell say what I wanted to say. And I understood it,

871
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: and I bet you most of you understand it, but

872
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: you like to be upset, you know what I mean? Yeah,

873
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: so not understand too. And I was like, this is

874
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: one of another reasons that Trump needs to go. I

875
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: didn't go. This is why doctor Falcon needs to go.

876
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is what Trump, this is why Trump

877
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: needs to go.

878
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 4: Because saying it is intelligent.

879
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: The fuck the people that you agree with when you

880
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: start shitting on the CDC are a bunch of people

881
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: that also shiit on the CDC.

882
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: But it's for totally different reasons. Come on, they're like, say,

883
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: this is.

884
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: The Chinese virus, so that like, yeah, that that's not

885
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: that's not why why why we're upset?

886
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: Like yeah, we I'm saying for two different reasons.

887
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: So at any rate, man of course, of course, and

888
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 2: we'll see as they adjust other shit, because right now

889
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: they're still are saying, like, you know, we're thinking that

890
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: people are gonna go to school in the fall. In person,

891
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: I think they recommended masks and ship for the kids.

892
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: But I mean, this ship is all. It could change

893
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: on the drop of a dime, you know what I mean.

894
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: So you hope that something happens when in the next

895
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 2: couple of months to like get these numbers down, clear

896
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: this up.

897
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: Maybe people going back to masking will help because.

898
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: People will have certain social pressures to wear a mask

899
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: even if they weren't before or whatever. But I just

900
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 2: don't know that the people that we need to wear

901
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: a mask are people that listen to the CDC.

902
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also somebody bought it up in the chat

903
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the chatting. Something too is now you

904
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: have companies that are just thinking adapting, and so now

905
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: a lot of companies have protocol about COVID and pandemics

906
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: that they didn't have it for and they might have rules,

907
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: but like, hey, if the if it gets a certain

908
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: percentage in this area, or we're just sending everybody helse

909
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: and about it.

910
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: Companies are also mandating vaccines, yes, and the private I saw

911
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 2: the Washington Post just posted like we planning on having

912
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: everybody get vaccinated.

913
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's that's fine.

914
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: That's the only way you guarantee that you're going to

915
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 3: be open, because if not, you're gonna be open and shutting,

916
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: open and shutting, and it's.

917
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: Like you have an outbreak.

918
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: Then what you just go, oh, well, we just have

919
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 3: people die in the office place because we don't want

920
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: to make rules.

921
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: Y'all figured it would come down to this at some point,

922
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: because I just think one Republicans tried to hide behind

923
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: the economy. But if the economy is what's going to

924
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: move this in the economy. Will demand people get vaccinated, Yes,

925
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: because the economy can't just keep functioning as people.

926
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 1: Die at historic rates.

927
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: People are people are dying in this country at the

928
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: same rate as a war.

929
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: Oh like if we were having a war.

930
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think we've I've said this on

931
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: the show a few times, but people are dying at

932
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 2: the same rate as if we were in some type

933
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 2: of like Vietnam or some shit that can't that's not sustainable.

934
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: You know, we live a very privileged American experience existence

935
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: where you know, we're not used to this kind of

936
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: mass death all the time.

937
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: Even with mass shootings all.

938
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: This shit, we're still not used to this level of

939
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: mass death because we've had a very privileged experience and

940
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: our economy is not used to running like this or

941
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: any of this shit. So these businesses are gonna be

942
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: like listen because right now, you know, people think, oh,

943
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: it's hospitals and nursing home. It's no, it's about to

944
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: flip up to be like Nigga Lowe's Amazon. It's gonna

945
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: be them being like get vaccinated or just go to

946
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 2: fuck home.

947
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 4: Man.

948
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: We we can't have a workplace where every day. We're

949
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: just worried that the delta variants gonna shut down plant

950
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: for two weeks.

951
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know people responded poorly, but this is

952
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: one of the reasons why you talk about Amazon.

953
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: Amazon was like the test I free.

954
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 1: No, we're not.

955
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 4: Paying for something that you get free.

956
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: And I can see them getting to the point where

957
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: it's like, you know what, We're just going to eliminate it.

958
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Either get vaccinated or don't work here.

959
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: If that right, there were just end the bullshit for

960
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: us having to do these fucking tests and people worried

961
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: about the tests while we're paying the test people.

962
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: When you could just get vaccinated.

963
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: Anti mask Congressman announces he has been infected with COVID

964
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: for the second time two times.

965
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: He's also LGBTQ anti LGBTQ. If that you know is

966
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: relevant to you whether he claims mask are part of

967
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 2: the dehumanization of the children of God what yep. And

968
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: he went and posted on his Facebook group that on

969
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: Facebook page that he has COVID, his wife has COVID,

970
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: and his son has COVID. Now he's never come out

971
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: and fully said he was anti vaccine, and and he

972
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: say if he's been vaccinated or not.

973
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 4: Of course, I don't think he is.

974
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: He said our treatment, our treatment of any health concern

975
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 2: always encompasses Western, Eastern, and holistic variables, but didn't explain

976
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: what that means, which I think means he's gonna take

977
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: the vaccine if he gets out of this, which it's interesting, man,

978
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: with that whiteness is wild. Man, White people having to

979
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: take the vaccine in the secret is the wildest shit

980
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: ever to me, And that tells you a cod and

981
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: shit that tells you a lot about the culture that

982
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: we're in.

983
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: M that you need to do that shit in that way.

984
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: I was more than happy to put my mom out

985
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: there and get the shot. Gither, fuck are you shamey?

986
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? But you know, I think we're not in that

987
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: culture though.

988
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: And honestly, if you are black and you're like maybe

989
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: heavy into the church culture, you may feel some similar

990
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: pressure to be like, I'm gonna get vaccinated, but I'm

991
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: not gonna talk about it because everybody around me socially

992
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: is anti this vaccine.

993
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well then me and Jesus gonna going up and

994
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: get and get these two doses.

995
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see.

996
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: And the last thing Kansas officials urge vaccinated people to

997
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: mad masks. So you know, I think you're gonna see

998
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: a lot of state and local people tell folks, hey,

999
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: go ahead and get masked. Back up these numbers jumps,

1000
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: especially if you have a heavy white contingent or heavy

1001
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: unvaccinated like minority contingent, They're gonna be like, go ahead

1002
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: and mask up.

1003
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: All right.

1004
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: I did want to say highlight before we get into

1005
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: just the regular news. I listened to this podcast episode

1006
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 2: unbothered with Jamil Hill. But she talked to Tamika Mallory, Yes,

1007
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: are you listening to that? It was really good? It was,

1008
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: it was really good. I'll suggest people go listen to

1009
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: it if you get a chance.

1010
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: Uh. Just such a thorough interview.

1011
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 2: She asked the challenging, uncomfortable questions, but not in the

1012
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: adversarial way. I mean, Jamelle is such a great interviewer already,

1013
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: you know if.

1014
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: You don't know.

1015
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: But it was such a thorough interview and it didn't

1016
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 2: really skimp out. It didn't try to like speak for her.

1017
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: It wasn't like how can I save you? Or how

1018
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: can I make people like you? Or how can I

1019
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: make people hate you? How can I trick you?

1020
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: It was just straightforward. It was still warm and friendly.

1021
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: And I think the reason that that kind of stuff

1022
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: is important is because, like Tamika Mallory just this year,

1023
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: was one of the people that folks was trying to

1024
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: come for and detegrating her work and trying to and

1025
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: you know, I have a friend that we kind of

1026
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: talked about it, you know, privately when it happened, and

1027
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: you know, we were just sharing our thoughts back and forth.

1028
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: And you know, for me, it was like, I understand

1029
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: how it looks to people that are consuming all this

1030
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: through social media, but I have my doubts with a

1031
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: lot of these folks that it's ever as bad as

1032
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: social media makes it out to be, right, just because

1033
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: it's so nonsensical what they're saying.

1034
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: The level of, like you, honestly, you have to be

1035
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: some level of.

1036
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: A sociopath, right because you don't. Y'all, This is the

1037
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: things that people allege. You know what I'm saying, because

1038
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: you know it's and and and also the fact that

1039
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: it always comes from the same chain of like I'm

1040
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 2: an activist, I'm not doing as good as you are,

1041
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 2: so let me tell you how you're doing it wrong.

1042
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: That's how it always goes, and then you can virtue

1043
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: signal because the fact that you're not as big as

1044
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: a name and not you can use that now to

1045
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: say you're a better activist, right because you're doing this

1046
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: opposite thing of like, even as you're trying to get

1047
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: the acclaim and the notice that this person is getting,

1048
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: you're going you're doing it the wrong way.

1049
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: And the proof is that you're that people know who

1050
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: you are.

1051
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: No one knows who I am, and it's because I'm

1052
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: I have more tech you So this is by choice.

1053
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: And it's like, is it bout choice? Because you're making

1054
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 2: a lot of stink online. You're constantly deriding this person

1055
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: on social media. You've been chasing this person for years.

1056
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: You're constantly trying to like siphon off of their attention.

1057
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: Is it really just that you know what I'm saying?

1058
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: And it's one of the reason I say I don't

1059
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: get into activists beefshit because there's an ego part of it,

1060
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: and I think all activists have to have some level

1061
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: of ego. Because you left the house and thought your

1062
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: voice was more important than other people's on this and

1063
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: you can fix this problem that no one's ever fixed before.

1064
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: That's not a knock. That's just how I think your

1065
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: mind would have to work. I don't think you ever

1066
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: gonna meet an activist that truly is like, no, I

1067
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: have no ego about this.

1068
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to.

1069
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: I don't care what they do or say about me, Like,

1070
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: well then you're not human, like you know.

1071
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: And the fact that we motiv that people.

1072
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: Law that Jesus type of figure is really weird in

1073
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: the first place. But man, the interview was just so

1074
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: good and I think people should take the time out

1075
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: to listen to it because like it really was her

1076
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: kind of explaining shit from her perspective, and it's like.

1077
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: A lot of it was like that makes sense.

1078
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: And even more interesting was how often she was like

1079
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: I can see how somebody wouldn't like the way I

1080
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: get down, but that's not precluding anyone else from getting

1081
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: down that way. And the stuff with Tamir Rice and

1082
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 2: Samario Rice was really informative because from a distance, it

1083
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: has always seemed like she did that woman wrong, and

1084
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: then you find out they don't even know each other.

1085
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: You find out I didn't watch that Grammy performance. You

1086
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: find out that that's not even something she chose to do.

1087
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: Like she didn't go to I'm gonna go out here

1088
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: and do this for Tami Rice. It was like little

1089
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: baby was performing and had this whole thing set up

1090
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 2: and asked her to be a part of it.

1091
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: So it was just it was.

1092
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: Just some interesting shit that you can only find out

1093
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: from like talking to the person. But so much of

1094
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: our shit is designed around we talk about the person,

1095
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: never to the person, and we don't want to we

1096
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: don't want them to put it in perspective. We don't

1097
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 2: want to really know what they're thinking. We like hating them.

1098
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: And so that was just another you know, like I said,

1099
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: I love these interviews with people that have been through controversy,

1100
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: being canceled and all that stuff. It's my favorite thing

1101
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 2: because it's just like, oh, look at this actual perspective

1102
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: from experience, not just theories and pondering and whatever, Like

1103
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: it's oh, this happened to me.

1104
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: Let me tell you how it affected me.

1105
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1106
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 3: And she was very open and candid, And I also

1107
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: like the fact that she was like, oh, people just

1108
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 3: don't like me. Oh people didn't return my phone calls.

1109
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 3: And she turned around and she.

1110
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: Said, that's okay, what it is.

1111
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 4: It's not the.

1112
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 3: Fucking end of the world, and you don't have to

1113
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: go out and make us think about somebody not liking

1114
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: you and things like that.

1115
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 4: Like's it was.

1116
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: Really interesting to hear her perspective and the things that

1117
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: she's been through. And she also admitted I'm not perfect.

1118
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 3: I fucked up, I have and done everything right. People

1119
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: not not like the way I roll. That's why a

1120
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 3: lot of people don't fuck with me. But I'm still

1121
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: gonna do what I do.

1122
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, reminded me when we talked about Rihanna Khan on here,

1123
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: and you know, at the time, every other show was

1124
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,479
Speaker 2: just kind of like shitting on it because they didn't

1125
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: like to name and then they just ran away from that.

1126
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: But if you listen to what the people would say

1127
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: when they were shitting them, they'd be like, well, they

1128
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: are they gonna do this?

1129
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: Did they even do that? And then I went and

1130
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: found the program. It wasn't hard to do and it

1131
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: was literally like, oh, this is a three day event.

1132
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 2: They're gonna march and they're meeting with legislators. Their her

1133
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: mother is involved, and it's like and I remember being

1134
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: on the show link, Yeah, I can't be mad at that.

1135
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: The family's involved. I don't know.

1136
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: I don't know better than her mom knows, right, And

1137
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I don't have the kind of ego

1138
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: it takes to be on social media talking about this

1139
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: girl I never knew and only heard of because of

1140
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: how tragically she died, fucked.

1141
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: Her mom's wishes.

1142
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: I decided, fuck that, you know what I'm saying, And

1143
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: that was somebody she worked directly with, you know what

1144
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So I just didn't.

1145
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: I never I remember when.

1146
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: I remember when Mike Brown died and his father had

1147
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: said something about I think the first first thing he

1148
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 2: said was like burning his motherfucker down.

1149
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: But then like something else happened. I can't remember what

1150
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: it was.

1151
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: It was like a holiday or something came around on

1152
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: like a Monday, and he called for a day of

1153
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: peace or something like that, and people was like acting

1154
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 2: like his father somehow let them down.

1155
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: And I don't remember going like have we lost the plot? Dog?

1156
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: If you can't be like this, you know what I'm saying,

1157
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Like we here for him and his family and dah

1158
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: da da and then his family say something and be like, man,

1159
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: fuck what y'all talking about? Like that ain't right?

1160
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 4: As it was never about them.

1161
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just I just find that kind of

1162
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 2: thing interesting. But yeah, anyway, it's a good interview. You know,

1163
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's changing anybody's mind, but I think,

1164
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, it's informative to get to see somebody else's

1165
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: side of shit, because way too much shit happens these

1166
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: days where just we roll with whatever makes us feel

1167
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: the best right away, and.

1168
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: Then we refuse to change. So it's just like I

1169
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: don't like that, bitch, and.

1170
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 4: Then information and we just we just don't matter.

1171
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 3: And I got said, and I've talked about five I've

1172
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 3: been guilty of that, and sometimes you got to let

1173
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: shit go. Do you know how motherfucking friend it is

1174
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: not to give a fuck about things and be like

1175
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: okay and just and really mean and not say that

1176
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: and still be picking around the corner, still be listening. No,

1177
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: just like okay and going bout your business. It is

1178
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: a friend motherfucking thing, you know. To have somebody have

1179
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,479
Speaker 3: so much control over you and your emotions and how.

1180
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: You respond to things.

1181
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: That's very dangerous and people don't realize how dangerous that

1182
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: is to give somebody else that much control over your life. Yeah,

1183
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: it's particularly when you don't know them.

1184
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think, like I said, for me,

1185
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: it's just being in foreign I think matters. And I

1186
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: think a lot of what we have cultivated online the whole,

1187
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: like us versus them, flat white, black and white type shit.

1188
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: It exists on not.

1189
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: Engaging with people on a human level. It exists on

1190
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: not giving anyone any level of any time to explain

1191
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: any level of nuance and benefit of the doubt.

1192
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's, you know, that's a shame that

1193
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: that's how it is. She would have to be reasonable.

1194
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 4: Who's trying to be that.

1195
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: Let's get into some old news, got different news. Fifteen

1196
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: dollars wage is becoming a norm as employers struggle to

1197
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: feel jobs.

1198
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: What you mean to tell me?

1199
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: Then, when y'all was paying people nikolas and pennies and dimes,

1200
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, just get back to work. People was like,

1201
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: I'm you know what, I didn't have shit anyway, and

1202
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: I'm not going out there to die for no pennies.

1203
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: And then y'all was like, well, we're raised. Guess we're

1204
00:58:59,080 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: raised a little bit.

1205
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: And y'all, oh this main people complaining about how y'all

1206
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: can't get nobody working companies was like, yeah, we're paying

1207
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: fifteen dollars an hour, We'll start off at twenty dollars

1208
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: an hour. They got so many applications they got to

1209
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: turn motherfuckers down. So somebody was lying about how people

1210
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: don't want to work.

1211
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: They do.

1212
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 4: They don't want to work for peanuts.

1213
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see many staffing companies are saying fifteen thousand

1214
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: hours the level that many businesses will pay to feel

1215
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: their job, must pay to feel their jobs.

1216
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: It's a Zip recruiter.

1217
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: The number of job postings on the site that are

1218
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: advertising fifteen thousand hours more than doubled since twenty nineteen.

1219
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1220
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: The proper proportion of jobs are offer four to one K,

1221
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: retirement accounts, flexible scheduling, signing bonds, and other benefits is

1222
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: also risen.

1223
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get people benefits, because what's the point.

1224
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 3: Let's say they do take the job. If you're not

1225
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: paying anything, you mistreatd they're not going to stay, which

1226
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 3: means you actually, as a company, it costs you more

1227
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 3: to constantly retrain than to get somebody in the return them.

1228
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wouldn't be surprised if we're gonna see

1229
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,959
Speaker 2: that and you know, because it's not a federal thing yet,

1230
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: and the federal minimum wage only affects federal jobs, so

1231
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: it's not like like states could still have.

1232
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: A lower minium wage in the federal minimum wage. So

1233
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: it's just people.

1234
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 2: People see the federal minimum wage as a bell weather,

1235
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: which is why they wanted to change.

1236
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: But you're gonna need this in states. But most importantly,

1237
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: the market competition for employees should change it, and it's

1238
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: good to see that.

1239
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: You know, people are kind of like making them change

1240
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: it by being like, I'm not taking jobs for less

1241
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: than this, and companies are stepping up and I know,

1242
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: still not enough, blah blah blah, not trying to, you know,

1243
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: but it is better than what the fuck people is getting.

1244
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 3: And if you want to function, like a lot of

1245
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 3: places to go, we're short staff. With short staff, we

1246
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 3: raised the rate. Now you know we have one of

1247
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: the people. And you can also comb and be particular,

1248
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 3: could be picky, like as an implorer, because you're gonna

1249
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 3: I'm paying more, which makes a big difference on their part.

1250
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 3: You actually can get a better quality employee too.

1251
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: Hearing exposed as TV viewers the blunt language and racial slurs,

1252
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: but hearing am I talking about the testimony at the

1253
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: from the first day at the House Investigation till January sixth, uprising.

1254
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: I will say this, man, I saw some of this

1255
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: on TV. I didn't watch all of it. Really, I

1256
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: don't watch a little bit of it because it was like,

1257
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: I know, you know, I think people were I think

1258
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: people like it so they can kind of share the

1259
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: quotes and be like, in your face. We tried to

1260
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: tell y'all what it was, and Republicans didn't even want

1261
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: this shit to happen. Pelosi had two Republicans on there,

1262
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: and I saw someone on Twitter to say some shit

1263
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: about there should be no Republicans on the committee and

1264
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: all of them need to be investigated for their role

1265
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: in the insurrection and shit like that.

1266
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: This is just why Twitter doesn't get to make decisions.

1267
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: Come on, Nancy Pelosi is better at a job than you.

1268
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: That's all like that. Honestly, that's what Twitter is is

1269
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: we should get to be everybody on the same shot,

1270
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: should be the only people that look at this thing,

1271
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,959
Speaker 2: and then when the results are rejected flat out because

1272
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: people go, well, it was very biased. There was no

1273
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 2: fucking uh like, there was just no opportunity for anyone

1274
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: to weigh any fucking evidence or facts.

1275
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: You go, well, fuck y'all, we don't like y'all. That's

1276
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: not enough. That's not good enough.

1277
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: Come on now, it's not like this commission is so

1278
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: fucking like it's balanced with insurrectionists and Democrats.

1279
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: That's not.

1280
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: How she went and found the Republicans that also are

1281
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: scathing critics of Trump and don't fuck with him and

1282
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, we do need some and she showed

1283
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: one some pull because McCarthy was like he tried to

1284
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 2: shut the shit down, like there should be no investigation,

1285
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: no commission, no nothing. Then when they when when they said,

1286
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: well we got the votes, we're going forward with it. Anyway,

1287
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: he tried to pull this other move like, well, let's

1288
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 2: put the most biased Republicans we can on the commission.

1289
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: She said, fuck both of them.

1290
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: And then she went and found the Republicans that they've

1291
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: admonished and chastised and thrown to the wolves who are

1292
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: anti Trumpers but pro you know, conservatives or whatever, and

1293
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: she was like, we'll put them on there because they

1294
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: also have a vested interest in being like who in

1295
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: my party is down with this shit? Because that's the

1296
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: reason y'all fucking with me. Liz Cheney has been fucking

1297
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 2: like either censured or lost her seat behind this shit,

1298
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: so you know she ain't on that trying to with

1299
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: some well wishes. And at the end of the day,

1300
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna.

1301
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: Be the the the uh what do you call it

1302
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: when you see something? Opticks, the optic thank you, The

1303
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: optics of seeing these these police, the spectacle of these

1304
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: police talking to the fucking commission on the news and

1305
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: saying exactly what happened to him and how their lives

1306
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: are in danger. It's gonna be more damning than anything

1307
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: else that could have happened.

1308
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why they didn't want to happen.

1309
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the fact that that we'll be two Republicans

1310
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 2: up there hearing the ship asking questions and and and

1311
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: also playing it up is exactly what you want. So

1312
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: but yeah, it was. It wasn't exactly as I thought.

1313
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: The Harry Dunn, the black police officer, say he got called.

1314
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: The N word, that they repeated and chatted at him.

1315
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: They even said he said at one point they told

1316
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: him to put the put the gun down and we'll

1317
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: show you the nigger. You are some ship like that.

1318
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, other cops came up there and was like, yeah,

1319
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: these people were for Trump.

1320
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: This was an Antifa, These are Trumps.

1321
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: They were the same people that we seen outside before,

1322
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: which we all know if you've been following the who

1323
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: they've been locking up and all this shit.

1324
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: They all people that loved Trump was on parlor.

1325
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: None of these or infiltrators that somehow did this ship

1326
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: and to frame to frame the bag of people. But yeah,

1327
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: they I mean, and they wasn't pulling no punches. They

1328
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: wasn't like censoring their language or nothing.

1329
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 4: So good I said, I didn't need to hear it,

1330
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 4: but good somebody did.

1331
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1332
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: Fox News of course played it too, but then they

1333
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: tried to put a polosed selected panel, you know, shit

1334
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: like that.

1335
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: But they still.

1336
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: Played it, and people was like they didn't. People was like, yeah,

1337
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: so these Republicans that claimed that blue lives matter?

1338
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: What what's up with this? Why y'all didn't want to

1339
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: hear these guys speak on? Uh, let's see what else

1340
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: is happening.

1341
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: Simon bows withdrew from the team finals and yo cites

1342
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: of mental health. Uh, this was all over the place

1343
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 2: for time and left the go medalists am Mo Bioles

1344
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: had to withdraw from gymnastic team final.

1345
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: First they said there was.

1346
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 2: A medical issue, then it was a mental health issue,

1347
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: and then I felt like her coach was in a

1348
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: tight spot because the coach was like, it's a mental

1349
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: health issue, but not in a pejorative.

1350
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: Way, but people took it that way.

1351
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 2: Because I think one, we still have a lot of

1352
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: stigmas in us about mental health, and we think it's

1353
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: shaming somebody to say that they're having a mental health

1354
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: emergency or crisis or an issue where they can't perform

1355
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: their duties. Is like we still have internalized that there's

1356
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: some kind of weakness when it's like, if we truly

1357
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: want to get to a point where we look at

1358
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: your mental health the same way you look at all

1359
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: other health, right, because if she would have tore a

1360
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 2: fucking ligament, y'all would have known every detail, which one,

1361
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: how long, what the MRI said. So we definitely treat

1362
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: mental health differently in a way because I think it

1363
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 2: was still stigmatized. We haven't figured out how to be

1364
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: able to say that someone's having a mental health challenge

1365
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: and they can't do their they can't do their job today, right,

1366
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: without making it seem like it's a bad thing that

1367
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: we talked about it, because we also think mental health

1368
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: is like a private thing, but to destigmatize it, it almost

1369
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: has to be public. I'm not saying you need to

1370
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: like force somebody to come out and tell you about

1371
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 2: their mental health, but like the idea that, like the

1372
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 2: shame attached to this feels weird to me, Like you

1373
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like your coach could have told

1374
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: us you broke your ankle, but they can't tell us

1375
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: that you said, Hey, I just have a mental health emergency.

1376
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: I cannot I can't go to that.

1377
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they want to challenge your toughness and all

1378
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 3: that it has nothing to do with it.

1379
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: And there were some assholes who did that challenging of

1380
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: the toughness. But I was really more talking about people

1381
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: like people that think they have her best interest in mine,

1382
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: who were like and I think reminds me Shikari again,

1383
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: reminds me of Naomi again. I think we get so

1384
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 2: caught up in what these people represent, even the people

1385
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: that claim they're not in the representation, It don't matter.

1386
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: Symbols ain't shit.

1387
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 2: They are so black woman TM to everybody they are

1388
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: a symbol. They do represent shit. It's why the fuck

1389
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 2: Nike pays them all that money. They represent a lot

1390
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 2: of shit. And I think on a deeper hippie level,

1391
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: people feel disappointment. And I'm not saying they're disappointed in them,

1392
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: but they're disappointed because they've also taken stock in these

1393
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 2: seeing these athletes dominate and be the best in their sports.

1394
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:48,839
Speaker 1: And so when.

1395
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: Anything happens that causes that not to happen, there's an

1396
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: anger and a disappointment. There sadness that then has to

1397
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: turn it. There's a sadness that turn in the anger. Yes,

1398
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: and it needs to be aimed at somebody, and in

1399
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: this case, it's her coach, it's the media, it's the Olympics,

1400
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: because you can't blame her, yeah, because we can't say

1401
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: like because you know we're past.

1402
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 1: One, you can't blame her because we like her. But two,

1403
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be blaming anybody it happens. You shouldn't be

1404
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: blaming anybody for this ship. Yeah.

1405
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 3: And it goes back to some of the things I

1406
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: said before, is that when it comes to black women,

1407
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 3: we are always stripped of our agency. We're always stripped

1408
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: of that and that's anti blackness, and people don't want

1409
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 3: to believe that's what they're doing, but you really are.

1410
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: So that was you know, So the coach thing was

1411
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: weird because I was like, I don't you know, we

1412
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: don't even know that she said don't tell nobody or

1413
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: some shit like that, you know, or like I don't

1414
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 2: know why he would like he betrayed the like the

1415
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: coach betrayed her confidence or something. I don't know that

1416
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: where that came from. And plus everyone's reacting really fast,

1417
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: and you know, social media rewards people that like I

1418
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: have an issue with this, like it's gonna reward you

1419
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 2: with the most attention. So of course, then the other

1420
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: thing I think that felt weird to.

1421
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: People is that you can't do this thing where.

1422
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 2: She did this to like Spike somebody where this is

1423
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: like a victory over somebody else. So then you have

1424
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: to go look for that because like with Naomi, they

1425
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,799
Speaker 2: framed her mental health issue as she showed the French

1426
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: Open and the tournaments. You see what I'm saying, It

1427
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: turned into that, you know, it's opposed to something else,

1428
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 2: like it couldn't be like we just care about her

1429
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: and want her to be well and be better and

1430
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 2: whatever she needs to do is all we care about.

1431
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 2: It had to be like this was a victory for

1432
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,839
Speaker 2: people everywhere that have had.

1433
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: Jobs to think.

1434
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 2: Like I saw people today comparing quitting a job to

1435
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 2: what to what was going on with some more bios

1436
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: those I was like, how the fuck did.

1437
01:10:58,880 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: You know that?

1438
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: Within minutes? None of us knows what happened making up

1439
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 2: None of us knows what happened, you know, but we have.

1440
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 2: It's you know what It's like, the same people that

1441
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 2: say black women are mules, black women are superheroes, black

1442
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 2: women are just you then go and buy into it

1443
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: the other way where you're like, no, they are superheroes

1444
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: for doing this, that or the other. I'm like, no,

1445
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 2: all of is dehumanizing. Yes, all of it is dehumanizing.

1446
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: That's an individual. First, she extremely talented, the best in

1447
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: her feel of course she's all those things. But everything

1448
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: and just regular life takes a toll on people.

1449
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: Someone at that echellon. I can't imagine the things that

1450
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 2: are taking a toll on her. And it's not a

1451
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be a win or defeat or

1452
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: victory over somebody. It can just be like, yo, she

1453
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,799
Speaker 2: needed to do this. The real win is being here tomorrow,

1454
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: or the real win is whatever it takes to get

1455
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 2: to feel well again.

1456
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: That's that's the wind. That's the only win that matters,

1457
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: sticking it to the Olympics. What is that like out

1458
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:09,839
Speaker 1: of nowhere?

1459
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: That's not like, that's you don't have to turn this

1460
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: into a story that's not right now.

1461
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: She wants to come out and say that cool.

1462
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm down with that if someone comes out in their

1463
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: own words and like, listen, I really did this because

1464
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,520
Speaker 2: I needed to show.

1465
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: The world blah blah blah. Cool. We can talk about

1466
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: it when it happens.

1467
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 2: But it's the immediacy of running to this narrative that

1468
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: feels dehumanizing to me. It feels like when you see

1469
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 2: a video someone gets shot by the police and people

1470
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 2: immediately have like a fucking four thousand word medium thing

1471
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 2: ready to go, and you're just like, what the fuck

1472
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 2: is this? Are you just feeding into a machine? Because like,

1473
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 2: these are people. This is like, let's let her talk

1474
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: in her own words and tell her story. But you know,

1475
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: I just thought that was interesting how quickly it just

1476
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 2: became about like everything but that and then it was

1477
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: This reminds me of when I quit my job. I'm like,

1478
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: what that's not Did she quit the Olympics? Did she

1479
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: say is because the job was bad?

1480
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: Did she? We don't know what happened.

1481
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 2: You know, it's okay to just fill the emptiness with

1482
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 2: emptiness and just let your emotions be your emotions, and

1483
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 2: you don't have to fucking go out and try to

1484
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 2: like claim the narrative before anybody else can get to

1485
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: it or guess what's going on.

1486
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1487
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 2: Nobody really knows but her, you know, like her mom

1488
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 2: came out and said she's gonna be okay.

1489
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know.

1490
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 2: What that means, you know what I mean, Like, you know,

1491
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 2: and I think honestly, a lot of people have an

1492
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: investment in her going there and dominating.

1493
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:38,799
Speaker 1: Because that's.

1494
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: Especially for your casual sports fans, that's the thing that

1495
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: they've been looking forward to. And now that it might

1496
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: not happen, it's gotta be for some other symbolic reason.

1497
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: It can't, you know, it can't just be that she

1498
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: you know, she may be going through something right now.

1499
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think for a lot of people, they

1500
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: feel like.

1501
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 3: All these people, all these black women, and I was

1502
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 3: cheering for and was hoping each one of them got

1503
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 3: put out quote unquote for various reasons, but they got

1504
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 3: put out. So it's like, well, now what am I

1505
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: cheering for when a lot of them, when you hear

1506
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: them speak, y'all are anti the whole Olympics thing anyway,

1507
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 3: Like I'm looking like, why you're over here in the

1508
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 3: first place when I look at tweets?

1509
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 4: But you know, and that's no. We're all complex creatures,

1510
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 4: so that's understandable.

1511
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 3: But it's like, Okay, now, y'all not giving me no

1512
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 3: reason to root, no reason to cheer, and instead of them,

1513
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 3: you know, accepting that and be like, Okay, let me

1514
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 3: go do something else.

1515
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: It's like I gotta blame the Olympics.

1516
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: I gotta blame everybody else for me being mad that

1517
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 3: you know, all the black women joy'll thought was gonna

1518
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 3: get over the course of this Olympics is gone.

1519
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 4: Now.

1520
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1521
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: She said she had to put her mental health first.

1522
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: She said she felt that she was hurting the team

1523
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 2: by being out there knowing she was struggling through that,

1524
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: and that she knew she wasn't at her best. She

1525
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: said she was inspired by now On Yosaka. These are

1526
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: facts these are things she said. I'm gonna go with that.

1527
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna go with that.

1528
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: It wasn't I needed to stick it in the US.

1529
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 2: I was looking at something today was like, because you know,

1530
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: she had to show USA Gymnastics that because.

1531
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: Of what all everything that happened with Larry Necessary and

1532
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: all this stuff.

1533
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 4: Was like, now what she said, let's just let her

1534
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 4: say that.

1535
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 2: Maybe when the memoir comes out, we can go, oh,

1536
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: that's what it really was, But don't put that on

1537
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: something like it's so weird because you're going I care

1538
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: about this person that's struggling through mental health, but also I.

1539
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: Don't really care about you. I care about what you mean. Yes,

1540
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: you represent, Yeah, what you mean to me is different

1541
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: than what who you are, and it's gonna it needs

1542
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: to mean something, you know what I mean?

1543
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: And I just worry about people in the eye of

1544
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 2: that hurricane. When when folks have decided it needs to

1545
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 2: mean something, when when.

1546
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:53,799
Speaker 1: That might not be what's happening.

1547
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 2: I agree so, and even just the fact that I

1548
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 2: think it's it would be revel It's already revolutionary that

1549
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 2: someone at that Exelon goes I'm having a mental health

1550
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: moment or think I can't.

1551
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: That's already mind blowing.

1552
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: Like the fact that we needed to be something more

1553
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 2: than that, you know what I mean, it's wild. And also,

1554
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 2: of course I think what you know, don't don't get

1555
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 2: it twisted.

1556
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: There's also these assholes.

1557
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: In the world who are denigrating her, and I think

1558
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: that's another place that just comes from is we let

1559
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: them set the tone, and so then the pushback has

1560
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 2: to be, well, they're denegrating her, we need to lionize her.

1561
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: And then by the time we're done lionizing her, I

1562
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 2: feel like they have dehumanized her with their.

1563
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: She ain't mentally strong enough.

1564
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 2: She done fucked up the team if they loses her fault,

1565
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 2: whose spot did she take?

1566
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: She doesn't deserve it? That, which is all that shit

1567
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: is so not reality, right, right, that's so ridiculous what

1568
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: they're saying. But then we don't have to match it

1569
01:16:58,920 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: with our ridiculousness.

1570
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 4: Yes, and like the energy levels have to match.

1571
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we don't. Like it was just wild seeing

1572
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 2: that shit go back and forth. But yeah, man, I

1573
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 2: think it's a good thing to see that even people

1574
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: on that level are human. I just think that's probably

1575
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: the only if I'm gonna project anything up to the story,

1576
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: that's the only thing I'm willing to project for myself

1577
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 2: is Yeah, people are.

1578
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: Human, even when you see them as superheroes. You know,

1579
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: it's Paul, you know.

1580
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 2: And it's funny because when it was Paul George or

1581
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 2: somebody sorry, we'd be like and Nigga like, how dare you?

1582
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: You don't deserve a mental health day? You went three

1583
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: for nineteen, you know.

1584
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 3: But and then these schools, well they was like, little

1585
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 3: mental health is over you, Like, that's not how that work.

1586
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: Guys like, I'm sorry that they made us to the

1587
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: second round. Yeah, so I just point you, but that's

1588
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: not how that works. Depression over with. All right, let's

1589
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: see what else happened. I thought this was a cool story.

1590
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 2: So Normani has a song out called Wildside and Cardi

1591
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: b is on it, and people basically try to drive

1592
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 2: a wedge between them because Normani like posted the video

1593
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: on Twitter. Someone quote tweeted and said, this might be

1594
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 2: a hot take, but honestly, Cardi should have been the remix.

1595
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: I don't know y'all why y'all didn't release this song

1596
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: as your solo simple single. I get why she's on it,

1597
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,879
Speaker 2: but she should have been the remix in my humble opinion.

1598
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: And so uh, this person quote tweeted Normani and Normandy

1599
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 2: deleted the original tweet. But then Carti quote tweeted this

1600
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 2: person and said, same people that say this ship is

1601
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: the same people that didn't buych it don't request on radio,

1602
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: not streaming, not not adding no value of numbers to

1603
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,879
Speaker 2: the song, but opinions on Twitter for a hit tweets

1604
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 2: because hating but keeping up with the Cardi is what's in.

1605
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 2: And this person responded to excuse me, girl, All I

1606
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: said was you should have been on the remix. Show

1607
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 2: me where I'm hating. I'm so confused, laughing emoji because

1608
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 2: like they kind of this is the thing. People like

1609
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 2: that kind of enjoyed their attention. That's why they didn't

1610
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 2: you know, why they didn't like delete their tweet. They

1611
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 2: meant that shit and then you know and.

1612
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 1: This, oh y'all mad? You know, which is that's the

1613
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: lowest level of discourses. I can made you upset. It's funny,

1614
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 1: but it's the lowest level. Right.

1615
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: It's like I can't say I'm making sense or having

1616
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: a discussion, or I can say I made you upset.

1617
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 2: I had the same effect on you as just like

1618
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,799
Speaker 2: you know, punching you in the front stomach.

1619
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

1620
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: But then Normani came to her defense and Requote tweeted

1621
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: Cardi and said, can't imagine this record without you. That's

1622
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 2: the tweet, and then said, I don't think you guys

1623
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 2: understand how hard this woman is gone for me. You

1624
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: have been a champion for me throughout this whole process,

1625
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: even when I was freaking out the night before releasing

1626
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: God don't play when it comes to his we good

1627
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 2: says hands up emoji, prayer emoji, two crowns.

1628
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 1: And the thing I thought was that I thought was

1629
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: dope about this story.

1630
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 2: Was how much uh Normandi went up for Cardi Because

1631
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 2: a lot of times other people say shit and then

1632
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: nobody says anything, and then it kind of can. It

1633
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: can either become something or it seems like maybe you

1634
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 2: agree with it they you know, or you're trying to

1635
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: stay out of it and stay peaceful, or you don't

1636
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 2: want to piss off your fans or whatever, or you're like,

1637
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: oh well people just didn't like it, but whatever.

1638
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: I like this. She came out and was like, no,

1639
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: that's my dog. We fuck with each other.

1640
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: I love that she's on there. She always going up

1641
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 2: for me, and a Cardi feature ain't easy to get,

1642
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: you know.

1643
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: How you feel about her.

1644
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 2: Knew, like Carti could have said, no, you know what

1645
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So I just thought that was dope that

1646
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: she like support was so supportive in that situation, especially

1647
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 2: because it caught Carty's attention, and you know, you could

1648
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: have made that into like, look at Cardi being sensitive,

1649
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 2: but I ain't gonna say nothing about it.

1650
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: That's if she got something to say, that's her the

1651
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: to deal with. That's actually kind of dope because she

1652
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: kind of squashed it.

1653
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 2: And I feel like Megan coming in the game was

1654
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: the thing that changed a lot of this for me.

1655
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Carti was already kind of like this, but

1656
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: then that the Nicki Minaj shit can popped off and

1657
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: it kind of reverted back to that who's the best?

1658
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 2: That can only be one female high land of rap shit.

1659
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 2: And ever since meg been in the game, you feel

1660
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: like it's been a lot more feature sharing, posse cuts,

1661
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: women working with each other.

1662
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: It's been yeah, we in this together.

1663
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been a lot of understanding and I think

1664
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 2: also because men aren't at the rains as.

1665
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: They were before niggas is mad, yeah, where it's like.

1666
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: My it was almost like a contestante, which one of

1667
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: their acts was gonna be the one on top, you know.

1668
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 2: And and I know some people look at that as reductive, like, well,

1669
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 2: you know, men don't have to be.

1670
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: Friends, and I'm like, but they are right. Very rarely

1671
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 1: do these men be.

1672
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 2: On some like there can only be one we not

1673
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: fucking with each other shit, you know what I'm saying,

1674
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: Because there's a certain type of thing with the men

1675
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 2: in hip hop where they still brag about being the

1676
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 2: best and the only one in the king of this

1677
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 2: and the king of that, and then they fucking work together,

1678
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 2: you know, and if there is some beef, then it'd

1679
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 2: be some real legitimate beef that's gonna be there. But

1680
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: it felt like the only way in the game for

1681
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 2: women after for a while was like there can be

1682
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: one woman and then every other one. We're not giving

1683
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: no resources, no budget.

1684
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: Not helping at all, you know.

1685
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: So it's kind of dope to see this like moment

1686
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: of like, I don't know, this is a dope moment

1687
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: in hip hop for women, right now and for black women,

1688
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 2: and I hope it stays that way for as long

1689
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 2: as possible, just like I like where we're not having

1690
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 2: to just be like this one person and you know

1691
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 2: they twitter staand shit, you know them, Nigga's gonna argue

1692
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 2: and everything. But this is just so a proof how

1693
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 2: disconnected these folks are. Because you thought that was helping

1694
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: her out, like you thought that was as a fan.

1695
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying this and it's like, Nigga, shut the fuck up.

1696
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: Clearly I had this person on my track for a

1697
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 1: fucking reason. What are you doing? How are you helping me?

1698
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1699
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:33,799
Speaker 2: It is the motherfucker's attacking the Golden State Warriors wife

1700
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 2: owner's wife for Beyonce all over again with just.

1701
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: Like Nigga, you're not healthy. Just shut the fuck up.

1702
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: Nobody asked you.

1703
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 2: Like now I gotta come out and be like, hey,

1704
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: I love Cardi everybody, please, can we not do this right?

1705
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: What's happening here? What the fuck? You know? It's like

1706
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: I guess you cultivate.

1707
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: It's weird with music because you can't even say you

1708
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: cultivate those kinds of fans because with a podcast, you

1709
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: talk so much you can say that. But with us music, anybody,

1710
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: some people just think that's how you be a fan

1711
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 2: is attacking other artists and uh huh taking.

1712
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 4: Them down part of the stand party.

1713
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: It's like there and the fans end up.

1714
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 4: There can only be one. That's part of the problem too.

1715
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 3: Not only is the industry like that, the fans and this.

1716
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 3: You know, people go, well, I'm a stand you know,

1717
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, which is fine, you know, love love

1718
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 3: not go ahead.

1719
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: I mean, no, go ahead, go ahead.

1720
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 4: I was just a joke, okay.

1721
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 3: I mean because, like I said, I like a lot

1722
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 3: of different artists and y'all know me.

1723
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a Beyonce stand.

1724
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 3: But also I understand that I also like Rihanna. I

1725
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: also like Cardi. Y'all also like Nikki, Like you know,

1726
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 3: so I don't have there can only be one mentality

1727
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 3: where if I fuck it one, I can't fuck with

1728
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 3: the other ones.

1729
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. Maybe I'm old, but I'm like,

1730
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: that's some bullshit.

1731
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: I think also because we're just old enough to remember,

1732
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: like they're being like six seven, eight, nine ten women

1733
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,759
Speaker 2: that rapped and it wasn't like only this one person

1734
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 2: gets to beat the one.

1735
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: You know, we came up when there's a queen Latifa

1736
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,480
Speaker 1: and a sister, a soldier.

1737
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: And Yo Yo and an EMC line and like it

1738
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: was just so many acts at the same time. It

1739
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 2: wasn't until like the Little Cam Biggie shit that it

1740
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: was like, you know, it's like Big got Little camj

1741
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 2: got Jay got Foxy Brown and so just like that can.

1742
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 1: Only be one king of New York, that can only

1743
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: be one queen. And then that's when it felt like

1744
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: it changed.

1745
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 2: But I think we're old enough to remember when you

1746
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: had like I want to be down as a posse

1747
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: cut and now we could like do that again, like

1748
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 2: we like I'm here for it, Like they make that

1749
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 2: shit longer now there's so many women, Like you can

1750
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 2: make that shit like a ten minute track right now.

1751
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: They didn't want to be down remits right now.

1752
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 1: So I will be here for all of it. I

1753
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: love to see it. Yeah, Mony Love Rocks, everybody's name

1754
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: is and Rage. Yeah, there were so many.

1755
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 2: There were so many, and I'm glad we're getting back

1756
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 2: to that. Kanye West, he had a listening event for

1757
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 2: his album, which he said was releasing All I Think Friday,

1758
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 2: but then after the listening event, he decided to push

1759
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 2: it back to like August or something. Okay, the album's

1760
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 2: called Donda, after his mother. Oh, the listening event broke

1761
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: Apple streaming record.

1762
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I of course did not listen me either,

1763
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 1: haven't heard it, didn't watch it. It wasn't out of

1764
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: some type of boycott. I don't hate him or whatever.

1765
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not that.

1766
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people will get off on that,

1767
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: but that's not for me. It's not that I just

1768
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: really don't be giving a fuck the.

1769
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: Same come out.

1770
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people think it's impossible to

1771
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,560
Speaker 2: do this. I know a lot of people think it's impossible.

1772
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: I really mean it. I meant it. I think a

1773
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't know.

1774
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 4: They didn't.

1775
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: I've always said, and I feel very vindicated right now,

1776
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 2: but I've always said the anger at Kanye was because

1777
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 2: he hurt people, and they were like, nah, it ain't that,

1778
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: and they was in denial about it.

1779
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: But the anger was so it was so much anger.

1780
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 2: Yes, so over the top, yeah, and it ignored so

1781
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 2: many things that was happening with the dude that I

1782
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, this is like that anger you have

1783
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: when it's like best friends become enemies type of anger

1784
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 2: because motherfucker's rooted for him for so long, even when

1785
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 2: people think he was always problematic, which I understand and agree, yes,

1786
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 2: but people try to turn into like he was always

1787
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 2: dislike republican maga koon dude, and he wasn't. I remember

1788
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: I maybe even did an episode. I just took quotes

1789
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: from like off the head of like nah, what about

1790
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 2: this line? What about this line? What about this line?

1791
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 2: For his first three of the five albums, And it

1792
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, this, this.

1793
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: Is this hurts because it's out of character, you know.

1794
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, And because this is more than just

1795
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 2: him making a joke at the end of Gold Digger

1796
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 2: about when he get on and you can leave your

1797
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 2: ass for a white girl.

1798
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: This more than that, Like this was something like slavery

1799
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: was a choice. Shit. The dude that made that slave

1800
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: ships made said slavery was a choice.

1801
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, there's a lot going on, but at

1802
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: the end of the day, though a lot of people

1803
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: are addicted to Kanye man, yeah they snigger broke apple.

1804
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I understand there are some people I never

1805
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 3: fuck with him. Cool cool, Cool, you are very very

1806
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 3: very small percentage of people, which is fine. You're not

1807
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: hop you understand that you're not in the majority.

1808
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: Even niggas.

1809
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 4: It was like, I'm not gonna fuck with him.

1810
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 3: He put out another flame ass album, They're gonna be

1811
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 3: listening again because the streams and numbers don't lie. Too

1812
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 3: many motherfuckers are lying and be like fuck Kanye, but

1813
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 3: they turn around. They was watching that Apple stream though.

1814
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, it's just interesting because like he

1815
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 2: was trending. I didn't even know what was happening because

1816
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 2: I don't keep up with him, but I'm seeing people

1817
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: like yo, this thing he just did, and look at

1818
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 2: what he got on I was like, what is he

1819
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 2: on TV?

1820
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: What is happening? Anyway? Back to my video game.

1821
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 2: Come to find out, it's a reason he was trending

1822
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 2: in and I'm one of the people that got him

1823
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,839
Speaker 2: muted down. I got the word Kanye muted from my browser.

1824
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: It got through. It got through. That meant a lot

1825
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: of people using it. I don't know, like was every

1826
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:30,759
Speaker 1: tweet about this ship? What the fuck?

1827
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 2: Any but yeah, it was if that's what it was.

1828
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 2: Apparently he filled up a stadium. People came out there

1829
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 2: and I don't know if it was free or what,

1830
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 2: but it's like a listening party. Everybody was in there, three.

1831
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: Point three million viewers or on Apple like this, Yeah.

1832
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,560
Speaker 4: I didn't know you could. So they streamed the video.

1833
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: Live or something. I guess, so, wow, I didn't know

1834
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: Apple could do that. Yeah, I guess so, man, So

1835
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: that's why that people keep wondering. It's so funny.

1836
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 2: People go, he's not canceled, and then they bring up

1837
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 2: Chrissette Michelle, and I'm like, he's not canceled because of you.

1838
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: The fuck. He's not canceled because of your ass. It's

1839
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: not because it's not because of just some secret group

1840
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 1: of fans that we don't that that's keeping him alive when.

1841
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 2: There's three point three million people watching, when it's an

1842
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: arena full of motherfuckers that are thing, it's you, the Royal.

1843
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: You stop pointing the finger of everybody fucking else. It's you.

1844
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 2: Some of us just having to be a little more

1845
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 2: honest about it than others.

1846
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm here for the music, Sarah.

1847
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 2: Like, it's a lot of motherfuckers that was never fans

1848
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 2: of Chrissette Michelle, so it's.

1849
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 1: Easy to throw her away.

1850
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 2: And if the only time you bring her up is

1851
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 2: despite people for listening to Kanye West that ain't supporting

1852
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 2: her either.

1853
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: That ain't a stream, They ain't a ticket.

1854
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 2: That's just you being bitter that that he found that

1855
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 2: he was quote unquote cancel proof. But you also looking

1856
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: at a dude that was standing on top of the

1857
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 2: fucking mountain and comparing somebody that standing on top of

1858
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 2: a hill and being like, why didn't the flood Overcoak.

1859
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 2: Both of them had a lot longer the clwon to

1860
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 2: get rid of him.

1861
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it did, And I enjoyed Chrisette, Michelle yeah concert, Yes, me,

1862
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 3: your mama and uh aunt Robin went there.

1863
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: And what kind of people were there in the crowd.

1864
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 4: Black women and black people, and.

1865
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 2: What percentage of black women do you think voted against Trump?

1866
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: Right, all right, you don't have to answer the question.

1867
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 2: My point being, one of these people had the most

1868
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 2: more vulnerable fan base to this shit, and theybel.

1869
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,640
Speaker 3: Felt hurt and betrayed, and that tin funny. That is

1870
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 3: kind of different with her. It's like no, no, no, no, no,

1871
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 3: you don't understand.

1872
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: Your fan base.

1873
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are white people there, but your fan base

1874
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 4: is us.

1875
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you made.

1876
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 3: Us mad, and particularly black women who voted like got

1877
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 3: An by the ninety clip.

1878
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 1: Nah dog, oh, let's.

1879
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 2: See one of the stuff that I want to talk about.

1880
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 2: I know, we gotta wrap it up by seven. Let's

1881
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,959
Speaker 2: do some fucking with black people real.

1882
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: Quin, actually know what? No, no, no, Let's do some

1883
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: l g B t Q news. Let's do that joint

1884
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: real quick. Why do I always have Let me what

1885
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 1: you want to be?

1886
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 7: You better move you Friday, you better move your feet

1887
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 7: and I want to crool. Show me what cool riding

1888
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 7: carry babies, l g B t Q news.

1889
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: I'm still shin.

1890
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 4: L g B.

1891
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. MJ. Rodriguez you may know from Post.

1892
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 2: It's the lead actress on Post makes Emmy Awards history

1893
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 2: as first trans woman nominated.

1894
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:11,759
Speaker 1: For Lead Actress.

1895
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 4: Let's Go.

1896
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 2: Tuesday was announced that the thirty year old Post star

1897
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 2: was nominated for the Outstanding Lead Actress in the Drama

1898
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 2: Series for her betrayal as Blanca Rodriguez Evangelista.

1899
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 1: In the hit FX Network series.

1900
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 2: Her competition includes Journey Smolette from Lovecraft Country and Emmacorn

1901
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 2: from The Crown. Sarah Kate Ellis Presidency Glad Cay Rodriguez's

1902
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 2: nomination a breakthrough for transgender women in Hollywood that was

1903
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 2: long overdue.

1904
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 1: Let's go. And of course Billy Porter.

1905
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 2: I think it's been nominated for Lead Actor before, and

1906
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 2: I think he won in twenty nineteen, which made history

1907
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 2: because everything from that show that wins is gonna make history.

1908
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 2: It's the first openly black gay man to do so.

1909
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 2: And it's also up for Outstand and the Drama Series.

1910
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 2: So I thought that was cool. So it's not all

1911
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 2: bad news, you know, even if you can't kind of

1912
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 2: flip it and be like the first, but you know

1913
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, it's not all bad news. Boston Pride

1914
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 2: the organization abruptly shut down because the community, because the

1915
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 2: community wanted change. Now what's interesting about this this is

1916
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 2: that intersection of race and and and queerness right because

1917
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: people will say, oh, this happens a lot of times

1918
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 2: with black people who hate gay people. They say shit, like,

1919
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 2: I mean, why come they do things for white people

1920
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 2: but they can't do shit for the black people. They

1921
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 2: do shit for gay people before they do shit for

1922
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 2: black people. I'm like, where's the I don't know if

1923
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 2: you've heard and you can be.

1924
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: Black and gay and still have to struggle with racism

1925
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 1: in the gay community, in the LGBTQ community, and that's

1926
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 1: what happened with this.

1927
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 2: So they called this person the carpet and said, hey,

1928
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 2: there's not enough diversity within this organization and some of

1929
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 2: the things y'all doing are insensitive, and of course, uh,

1930
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 2: they heard.

1931
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 1: Them out and changed everything and it worked out.

1932
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 8: The Boston Pride organization is dissolving.

1933
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I meant, I meant they said, fuck it,

1934
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: we quit on my bad. Oh I'm sorry. That's a big.

1935
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 3: So now nobody, nobody gets to support Now nobody.

1936
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 1: This artic goes only eighteen seconds long. They wrap this

1937
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: up fast.

1938
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 8: Pride organization is dissolving. The group has promoted equality for

1939
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 8: the LGBTQ community for more than fifty years. The years

1940
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 8: say they've received complaints that they are not inclusive enough,

1941
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,719
Speaker 8: and in a statement they say they do not wish

1942
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 8: to stand in the way of change.

1943
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 1: So they just took their ball and going home. They quit. Wow.

1944
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 2: Basically, start your own neg got the pride to him,

1945
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 2: So now go start your own your own march that's

1946
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:05,919
Speaker 2: not called Boston Pride.

1947
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 3: And all you're gonna do is now you cause the

1948
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 3: vision So now a lot of these races, as white

1949
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 3: folks go, I'm.

1950
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,560
Speaker 1: Pride, got take it away as y'all motherfuckers want to diversity.

1951
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: Why yep.

1952
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 2: And keep in mind a lot of people already had

1953
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 2: to create their own pride events. I know here in

1954
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 2: Charlotte we had Charlotte Black Pride, which we had participated

1955
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 2: in and got interviewed and all this stuff. And part

1956
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 2: of that was because black people felt like the white

1957
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 2: pride wasn't inclusive. I know one of them fucking Trump

1958
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 2: people was here in Charlotte that wanted to be in

1959
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 2: the pride parade like days for Trump. Yeah, like like Davey, like,

1960
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 2: it's wild the anti blackness you gotta deal with in

1961
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 2: a quote unquote inclusive space. But the fact that you quit,

1962
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 2: took your ball and went home, took the name, that

1963
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 2: just confirms every thing people were saying.

1964
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 3: And it's fucked up because you were instead of including

1965
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 3: us and going, well, more people, we can make it bigger.

1966
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,759
Speaker 3: Maybe we can reach out and you know, we'll start

1967
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 3: with black you know, black people. You know, I'm assuming

1968
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 3: that these were black people. We can reach out to Latinos,

1969
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 3: we can reach out you know, to to you know,

1970
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,879
Speaker 3: Asian Americans, you know, and just like we can actually

1971
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 3: make it a big thing. But instead of doing that,

1972
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 3: you said fuck it, which means anybody else now Liley

1973
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 3: has to start from scratch. You have, which means you

1974
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 3: have fifty years work for connections, fifty years worth of

1975
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 3: status in the city. It's a lot of people in

1976
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 3: the community now who actually make money off of y'all

1977
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 3: doing this shit. You took your funds away cause you

1978
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 3: was like, fuck it.

1979
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Yep, because you didn't want to share your label with folks.

1980
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 2: If y'all not gonna say I'm doing it right, then

1981
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 2: fuck y'all.

1982
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 1: I'm out right.

1983
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 4: And all you did was just prove that you were racist.

1984
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: Ridiculous.

1985
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 2: Let's see what else happened. There was a couple that

1986
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to fly their pride flag.

1987
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 1: Probably shout out to the HOA.

1988
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 2: Probably the Homeowners Association is the homophobic association. Uh So

1989
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 2: since they, you know, couldn't fly their flag, they said,

1990
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 2: all right, well, no problem, we're done. We just uh,

1991
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 2: we just won't fly the flag this month, and we'll

1992
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 2: turn our whole house into a rainbow.

1993
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: Oh I like that.

1994
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 4: The whole house they got flood lights.

1995
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: And all y'all listen. I don't know why they're so creative.

1996
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 1: Why did the Straits keep It's like the knowledge accepted. Yes,

1997
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 1: leave them alone. Just leave folks alone. Man, You couldn't

1998
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: actually make it worse. You couldn't do thirty days of

1999
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:55,759
Speaker 1: a flag.

2000
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 2: You couldn't do thirty days of a rainbow flag in

2001
01:38:57,960 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 2: your neighborhood.

2002
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: Thirty days. Now you gonna have to.

2003
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 2: I hope they keep that shit up all season long.

2004
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 2: I hope they take that ship all the.

2005
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 1: Way to Chris Instead of Christmas lights, they just had

2006
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: a rainbow flaglights because y'all motherfuckers just couldn't leave nobody alone.

2007
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 2: I bet it's a motherfucker on that block would a

2008
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 2: goddamn American flag and a fucking Maga flag or.

2009
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: Some shit like that.

2010
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 2: Just the fact that you would even go, well, we

2011
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 2: don't let people fly Maga flags is tells you everything.

2012
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 2: Because we find out to be the opposite of the

2013
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 2: gay What does that mean? Cardi B shuts down queerbating

2014
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 2: claims following Wildside music video.

2015
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 1: Uh, she said people use it to the ground.

2016
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 2: So what happened was she did a video with Normani

2017
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,679
Speaker 2: and part of the visual for the video was them

2018
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 2: like embracing each other and while naked dancing, and people

2019
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 2: was like, because they're gonna complain. I've always thought this

2020
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 2: was a weird thing to complain about. Not not I'm

2021
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 2: not trying to gaslight anybody that's that's like, I'm sick of.

2022
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 1: Queer baiting and all stuff.

2023
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 2: But it always felt like one of those things where

2024
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 2: people don't understand the entitlement and ownership that they're speaking

2025
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 2: with when you tell somebody they're queer bating, when you

2026
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: don't actually know anything about their sexuality or their private

2027
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 2: sex life, just because they haven't chosen to share it

2028
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 2: with you, and in order to do this in a video,

2029
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 2: she would need to somehow come out to the world.

2030
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 2: Seems kind of like the opposite of what it's like

2031
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 2: that it's that mushy line that people have.

2032
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 1: Where you know, this actor can't play you know, this

2033
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: straight actor is playing a gay role, and like, Okay,

2034
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 1: we all say sexuality is a spectrum and fluid, and

2035
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:49,799
Speaker 1: we say it's private and you don't have to tell anybody.

2036
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 1: It's your business what you're do in your bedroom, but

2037
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 1: also you better come clean and.

2038
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 2: Tell us everything because if not, we're gonna chastise you

2039
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 2: for taking this role and you kind of force people out,

2040
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 2: and then people have the fucking nerve to be on

2041
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 2: the back end, like it's a shame what they did

2042
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 2: to Da Da Da Da.

2043
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 1: Why do we have to do this to Queen Latifa

2044
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 1: and she and you're just like because you couldn't accept that,

2045
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 1: you don't own her right, you know what I mean?

2046
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 2: Queen Lautiva been playing all kinds of roles her whole career,

2047
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:24,640
Speaker 2: but it's just dogged her the whole time. Well, she

2048
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 2: need to come out. She need to come out for.

2049
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: Who, for us, for our egos.

2050
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with her life that we

2051
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 2: can decide how it should go, is what I mean.

2052
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 2: Like it might be a big part of her life,

2053
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 2: but for us to decide what she needs to open

2054
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 2: up to the world on I don't know. That always

2055
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 2: felt weird to me. So the queer baiting thing can

2056
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 2: kind of fall into that cloud a little bit, cause

2057
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 2: it's like, yes, there are people who are straight who

2058
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 2: think it's funny to do this, you know, there's women

2059
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 2: that like you know, uh, I know, we go to

2060
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 2: you go to a bar and every women that do

2061
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 2: like the fun lesbian thing, like we're kissing making out

2062
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 2: at the bar, but it's to impress all these horny dudes,

2063
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I'm sure it might

2064
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 2: be annoying or whatever, but I think it's I think

2065
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 2: once you rise to the point of like you're insulting

2066
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 2: gay people by not being gay or whatever, in that situation,

2067
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,879
Speaker 2: it's almost like, I don't know, it's always like you're

2068
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 2: definitely assuming something about those people. It's what I'm saying, right,

2069
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 2: And it's a malicious thing to assume, right, because you're

2070
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 2: assuming they're doing this to insult, or to reject, or

2071
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:38,560
Speaker 2: to minimize the community. Well, in this case, Carti addressed

2072
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 2: it because Rolling Stone wrote about it in this article,

2073
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 2: and they had an article that focused on the topic

2074
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 2: of queer baiting they used and they used her as

2075
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 2: an example. So she said at Rolling Stone queer baiting,

2076
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 2: you do know, we was trying to hide a whole

2077
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 2: baby bump, right, So that's part of the reason they were.

2078
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,839
Speaker 1: Doing nothing right doing the holding.

2079
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 2: Also, I'm married to a man, but I've expressed so

2080
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 2: much about my bisexuality and my experiences with girls. All

2081
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 2: of a sudden, queer baiting is the new word and

2082
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 2: people use it to the ground. And then she said,

2083
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 2: I don't like this new queer baiting word. It's not new,

2084
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 2: but I you know, it's probably new to her, right.

2085
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 2: I feel like it pressures artists to talk about their

2086
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 2: sexuality or their experiences.

2087
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: That they don't feel comfortable speaking about. Yeah, you know

2088
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 1: that was people. It's weird, like the brat.

2089
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 2: Was talking about how she wasn't comfortable being out or

2090
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 2: being herself until I want to say her either her mom,

2091
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 2: daughter or something or her grandma.

2092
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 3: D Yeah, I'm like, yeah, who the fuck are we.

2093
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 1: To be like, Nah, you need to go ahead and

2094
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 1: address this.

2095
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 2: It felt like that doesn't feel like we're overstepping our

2096
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 2: bounds at all. The people that, yeah, that's her business, honestly, Like,

2097
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 2: that's really her business. And if that's you know, I

2098
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 2: we all wink wink know that aren't that bring an aunt,

2099
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 2: that bring a friend to Thanksgiving?

2100
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: We all know, But honestly, it's her fucking business. At

2101
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: least that's the that's the piece I made with it.

2102
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 2: In my mind, it ain't my fucking business. If you

2103
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 2: want to tell me, beautiful dope shit I don't know.

2104
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I could be thinking you gay

2105
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:18,679
Speaker 1: and then.

2106
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 2: You come like, turns out, o't just I got the

2107
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 2: problems I'm stereotyping.

2108
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: So who fucking knows.

2109
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 2: But it's just super wild that you would write a

2110
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 2: whole lass article, which also probably means a rolling Stone

2111
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 2: person don't keep up with CARDI like that, you know,

2112
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 2: because because why would you write a whole last article

2113
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 2: about something she been open about, you know what I mean?

2114
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 2: But but yeah, or throw her in that label as well.

2115
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, she was just like, all of a sudden,

2116
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 1: she was like, what was it? Uh? Yeah, they so

2117
01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: the pressure artists to talk about that sexuality or their

2118
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: experience is that they don't feel comfortable speaking about If

2119
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 1: an artist kiss a girl on a video, does that

2120
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:06,719
Speaker 1: mean she got to show videos at text with other women?

2121
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just it's been interesting because Billy Eilish

2122
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 1: put out that video with her her girls dancing shaking

2123
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 1: their asses in the room, and people was trying to

2124
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,719
Speaker 1: say that was queer baiting too, because how you're gonna

2125
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:28,719
Speaker 1: have a thing about girls and y'all talking and showing

2126
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 1: off his And I was like, wait, so straight women

2127
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 1: don't do. That was Beyonce. Queer baiting was seven eleven.

2128
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 2: Like maybe it's just people overusing the term, but it

2129
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 2: just feels kind of really really presumptive I put it

2130
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 2: that way, and like folks overstep. So I was glad

2131
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 2: to see her like say something, but it's also a

2132
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 2: shame that she had to come out and be like,

2133
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 2: excuse me, remember.

2134
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

2135
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know my thing is they wrote the

2136
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 3: article and they purposely went after some of the top

2137
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 3: artists just to get the clickbaits, because like, you didn't

2138
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 3: have to do that. You could have wrote this article

2139
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 3: and maybe gave us examples. But like I said, you

2140
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 3: use certain artists for a reason, and you use artists

2141
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 3: next that not really knowing. And then how am how

2142
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 3: is she wrong for coming out and be like hey, y'all,

2143
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 3: like y'all talking about some shit that y'all don't know

2144
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 3: nothing about.

2145
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like when do you take responsibility?

2146
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 2: Because these are not This is no longer what it

2147
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 2: was when people first would break up career baity by

2148
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 2: being like, they're making it seem like two same sex

2149
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 2: characters in this story could have a relationship, but then

2150
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 2: they always pull up short you know, this happens in

2151
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 2: so much pop culture and we've all seen it, and

2152
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 2: a lot of times they want to pack themselves on

2153
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 2: the back for diversity and inclusion, but they also want

2154
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,640
Speaker 2: to make sure that the two guys don't kiss or

2155
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,560
Speaker 2: hold hands or whatever. They can like get close to

2156
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 2: each other's person's face, look at each other's eyes. They

2157
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 2: can even say stuff like you know, I love you,

2158
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 2: but as long as they don't like consummate that, as

2159
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 2: long as that's never officially declared. And then what what

2160
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 2: happened is fans would see those signs, they would hang

2161
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 2: they will start liking those characters, project things onto them,

2162
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:14,759
Speaker 2: and then the actors or the studio or the writer.

2163
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 1: Would come out and be like, no, they were gay.

2164
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 1: They weren't gay.

2165
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 2: Why would you think they were gay? And that's where

2166
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 2: queer baiting came from as a concept. Right, that's not

2167
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:24,879
Speaker 2: a person's fucking life. Yeah, it's sign human being.

2168
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: You know what. I like that. That's just uh people

2169
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 1: just oh my god, it's all right anyway. I guess

2170
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: people they're gonna be mad about something. This is just

2171
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: about something. It's Goodt's go whatever. Uh little nas x.

2172
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 2: Uh dropped another video, and people was mad because his

2173
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 2: video was unapologetically gay, as all his videos are.

2174
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Right, well, we actually shocked and surprise. Honestly, now you

2175
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 1: know it. And it said, I ain't seen nothing videos, y'all.

2176
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 1: He the best I saw call calling you by your name.

2177
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 2: I see clips of the with the dancing in the

2178
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 2: prison naked and ships like steel shots.

2179
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 1: Honestly.

2180
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 2: The thing for me that's interesting is the songs are

2181
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 2: starting to get better in my opinion, which that's how

2182
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 2: you get me to be a fan, you know what

2183
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

2184
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 1: That's no shade either. I think he's a great marketer

2185
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but I think low key he's

2186
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 1: getting better.

2187
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 2: As an artist, which that's how you be here to stay.

2188
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:27,719
Speaker 2: You trolling got a shelf life, you know what I'm saying.

2189
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 2: But the music last forever. So but yeah, he he

2190
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 2: What I like.

2191
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: About him though, is that he be talking that ship

2192
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 1: and so he was on Twitter quote tweeting all his

2193
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 1: trolls shit past.

2194
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, gonna make a mad.

2195
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: He's the fucking best man. Oh my god.

2196
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 2: He was Doctor Boyce Watkins was like Little nas X's

2197
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 2: and fighting for gay rights. He's marketing the sexual irresponsibility

2198
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 2: causing young men to die from AIDS. Being gay is

2199
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 2: one thing, but being as super spread as another. There's

2200
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 2: nothing healthy or helpful about that video, especially for children.

2201
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: Oh no, Little.

2202
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 2: Nazacks replied, y'all be silent as hell when niggas dedicate

2203
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 2: their entire music catalog to rapping about sleeping with multiple women.

2204
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 2: But when I do anything remotely sexual, I'm being sexually

2205
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 2: irresponsible at causing more men to die from AIDS.

2206
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 1: Y'all hate gay people and don't hide it. Come on, people,

2207
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 1: magazine quote had tweeted an article Little Nazaks responds to

2208
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 1: criticism of his industry music video y'all hate gay people?

2209
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 1: Like That's what he said. In quotes, he.

2210
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 2: Said, criticism is the song is not good, not saying

2211
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 2: not someone saying you are the reason gay.

2212
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 1: People get aids. Right, So even people who's like a

2213
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: woke magazine quote unquote, Nah, that's not that's a terrible headline.

2214
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 1: He was responding to homophobia with y'all hate gay people.

2215
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 1: He wasn't responding to a criticism of the of the

2216
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 1: song or the video like that wasn't the criticism. The

2217
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 1: criticism was of people being gay, right, Tarikna.

2218
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 2: Sheet White corporate music Exects funded a music video with

2219
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 2: Little naz X where a bunch of black men are

2220
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 2: in prison tarking and lone white men Jack Harlow is

2221
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 2: sexually involved with a female guard, but all the black

2222
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 2: men are sexually engaging with each other. This is progress,

2223
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 2: And Little naz says, let me explain, Lil Na's equal gay,

2224
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 2: so he with he wit boy Jack Harlow equals straight.

2225
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 1: So he went girl got it? Oh man? And what's

2226
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 1: the I don't know if you gonna get this?

2227
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:42,599
Speaker 4: What's the fucked up? He actually raised money doing this.

2228
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 1: The money and the money went to help people dealing

2229
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 1: with prison, right, Like he really That's why I say

2230
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 1: he really thought of everything.

2231
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 2: He's such a genius marketer. I just don't people get

2232
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 2: so upset by the fucking by him being gay because

2233
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 2: of their own homophobia. They can't even see, like, well,

2234
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 2: he's using y'all's upset to keep being on top, and

2235
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 2: so y'all are helping him be a top. So technically

2236
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 2: that makes y'all to bottom. So y'all are helping him

2237
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 2: be gay.

2238
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 1: If you think about it. Yes, someone said people are

2239
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:18,640
Speaker 1: easily manipulated. You know what that.

2240
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 2: Agendas are real. You also know that, and he replied, yes,

2241
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 2: manipulation is real. Agendas are real. I just simply don't

2242
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 2: believe me.

2243
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 1: And the fictional person with twerking men could present with

2244
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 1: tworking men could lead to a heterosexual man deciding to

2245
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 1: suck dick, right, like, what the fuck? And it's always

2246
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 1: that way.

2247
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 2: I think that's honestly, the undertone of all this shit

2248
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 2: is straight dudes being very afraid of like something making

2249
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 2: them suck some dick. I don't know if they just

2250
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 2: got that feeling inside it was like they done thought

2251
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 2: about it or what.

2252
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 1: I don't know where it's coming from, to be sure, but.

2253
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 3: If you're comfortable at in your masculinity, this should not

2254
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 3: bother you at all.

2255
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 1: Lack Like, why would you be this upset? It's just

2256
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: a fucking video. You knowing shit happens in rap videos

2257
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 1: that you ain't gonna do, or you wouldn't agree with

2258
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:12,719
Speaker 1: a lot of shit.

2259
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 3: Come on, I'll be rocking shit every day, but I'll

2260
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 3: be the first thing to tell you. Don't snitch, bitch

2261
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,759
Speaker 3: of snitching sell drugs. I'm not selling no motherfucking drugs.

2262
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 3: I'm not shooting nobody. I'm not doing half the shit

2263
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 3: they talking about.

2264
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: Uh. Some of these people deleted some of their tweets,

2265
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 1: I think, or maybe yeah, oh no, this person just

2266
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: got me blocked, So I don't know what. Black Liberation

2267
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: eighty four probably got me blocked for saying some shit

2268
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 1: some you know, talking my shit. Y'all know how I do.

2269
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 2: For noticing homophobia or something like noticing misogyny. I had

2270
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 2: to violate the crime of the Black Man. I had

2271
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 2: to get the fuck up out of the.

2272
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 1: Fan you had.

2273
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 4: You had to go into the pit.

2274
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: Right.

2275
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm out of the Queen and tea with Queen and

2276
01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 2: j fit. But I mean I'm still in the hotel.

2277
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 4: Right, out of one pin into another one.

2278
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 1: Think about log out and click the same.

2279
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 3: Winks, right, because all you have to do is just

2280
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 3: not be lolled in under your account.

2281
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah you still said they have if they're not private.

2282
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, maybe that private account, right, that's it?

2283
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, But it's some black woman that goes by

2284
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 2: Black Liberation, which you know, hopefully she's not saying something

2285
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 2: that that's fucked up, you know, because I can't see him,

2286
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 2: so he quotes with her or said many of not

2287
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 2: all of these artists had this hide the sexuality for

2288
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 2: the majority.

2289
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 1: Of that career.

2290
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 2: You've seen the only respect gay artists when the gay

2291
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 2: part is tucked away. You don't like me because I

2292
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 2: embraced my sexuality instead of hiding it and never speaking

2293
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 2: on it for your comfort. So she wasn't saying something

2294
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 2: nice from those contexts, and uh, yeah, man, fuck her,

2295
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:49,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So, uh and I loved it.

2296
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 2: This is the other thing too, because the only thing

2297
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 2: that ever really bothered me quote unquote with Little NASA's

2298
01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 2: was when he was talking to Kevin Hart on the

2299
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 2: shop and Kevin Hart was doing this thing of being like,

2300
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 2: we just want to, you know, make sure that you're

2301
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 2: not doing this to try to get the promotion. You

2302
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, that you're not trying to capitalize

2303
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,640
Speaker 2: off of being gay, And Lil Naz's kind of reassured

2304
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 2: him on some like, you know, he's the younger artist.

2305
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 1: Kevin hartis is famous correct charismatic, super rich black man,

2306
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 1: and they're all in the barbershop together and there's always

2307
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 1: a capitulation to that type of guy in these conversations,

2308
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 1: these spaces in the black community. It's like, well, if

2309
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 1: he I need his approval, And.

2310
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 2: So Lil Naz's kind of was on some like Nah,

2311
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 2: it wasn't about that. Matter of fact, I actually didn't

2312
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 2: come out as gay until after I had the song,

2313
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 2: so people would da da dada, and I was worried

2314
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 2: about that, blah blah blah, and like I said, he

2315
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong. But I really wish this two

2316
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 2: years later than the Little naz X was in that

2317
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 2: room now.

2318
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 3: And what and what been a completely different company.

2319
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 1: That's like me telling you not to make jokes about

2320
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 1: being short on stage. What the fuck are you talking about?

2321
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 1: Is who I am?

2322
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 2: Right, you're uncomfortable with it. There's no boost for me

2323
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 2: in this.

2324
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 1: You know how much shit I have to pay for

2325
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 1: it being a queer black man. You know how much

2326
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 1: shit I gotta pay for just in my life, how

2327
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 1: much ostracization I gotta.

2328
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 4: Deal with what you lose a lot of times too.

2329
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Right, That's what I'm saying.

2330
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 2: So why are you trying to flip this into like

2331
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 2: some type of affirmative action that I got that's only

2332
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 2: in the homophobic black man's mind that being gay is

2333
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 2: this affirmative action thing that makes you way more popular and.

2334
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: Everybody loves you. That's not it at all.

2335
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 2: People Gay people spend their whole lives sometimes hiding because

2336
01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 2: they just like I don't want to pay the cost, right,

2337
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

2338
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: So like that was such.

2339
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 2: An arrogant, homophobic thing that Kevin Hart had said, and

2340
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 2: not like I said, I get why little Naza is

2341
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 2: like a baby compared to everyone else in that room,

2342
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 2: but I.

2343
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 1: Get what I feel like little nas that be waiting

2344
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 1: for the smoke.

2345
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 2: I feel like he would have probably responded different, like,

2346
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 2: hey man, that sounded.

2347
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:20,160
Speaker 1: Like some shit you need to deal with, Like and

2348
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 1: if I did, now what uh?

2349
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the baby had a homophobic grant at Rolling Loud.

2350
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah yeah.

2351
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 2: He also brought out Tory lanz Uh to perform with him,

2352
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 2: and he performed right after making a stallion.

2353
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 1: What yeah, yep.

2354
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:52,360
Speaker 2: I think it goes back to something I said that

2355
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 2: go ahead, I was gonna say, I think it goes

2356
01:56:55,880 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 2: back to something I said August third, twenty twenty on Twitter.

2357
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 2: I bring this up every time something happens with him.

2358
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 1: But I'm starting to think the baby's not an intersectional

2359
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:16,040
Speaker 1: feminist care no shit, I'm starting to think somethings up

2360
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 1: with that guy.

2361
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 2: It's also interesting because I saw people go, this is

2362
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 2: so funny, people being like I thought he was good, cool,

2363
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,280
Speaker 2: and it was a lot of women being like and

2364
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 2: then because men were using him to like dunk on

2365
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 2: women and be like, this is y'all king, y'all was

2366
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 2: acting like he was like this different type of dude

2367
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:37,839
Speaker 2: when it was obvious that he was just as ignorant

2368
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 2: as anybody else in the rap game. But somehow he

2369
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 2: became like the guy for a lot of people. And

2370
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 2: this happens all the time on social media, where it's

2371
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:51,240
Speaker 2: like you can't just be somebody that likes somebody problematic.

2372
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 2: It's like I like them, therefore they're not problematic. So

2373
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 2: people was doing all these mental gymnastics detect.

2374
01:57:58,600 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 1: Why he was a good dude.

2375
01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 2: He's stood with Megan when this happened, and all this shit,

2376
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 2: And I just put my Twitter.

2377
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 1: Handle and the baby in there, and just back to

2378
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.

2379
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 2: These are the tweets because it's normally just an article

2380
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 2: that I was tweeting at the time. Rapper Brudery beaten

2381
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 2: by the baby security team is in a coma. The baby,

2382
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 2: not the nas cheating claims, but says another woman that's

2383
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 2: having his child. The baby apologized at the slapping woman

2384
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 2: at his concert, And these are just the ones I

2385
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 2: tweeted about, right and so to Well, it's funny was

2386
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 2: watching people be like, well, listen, you're blaming us, but

2387
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 2: when you get new information, then you change your mind.

2388
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:54,880
Speaker 2: And that's that's not us saying you know, that's not

2389
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 2: us flip flopping or whatever. That's just us changing our minds.

2390
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 2: It's like, if you've still been waiting for new information

2391
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 2: this many years, then you've been ignoring a bunch of

2392
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 2: shit to.

2393
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 1: Just because you think he's cute or whatever.

2394
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 2: So he had to do something completely unacceptable and egregious

2395
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 2: for you to turn for people to finally be like, Okay,

2396
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:20,400
Speaker 2: I think this dude is not he's not on our

2397
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 2: side and he doesn't obtain my values.

2398
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: That's it.

2399
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

2400
01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, he did a rant saying that his gay

2401
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:38,440
Speaker 1: fans something about how actually it's probably it's TMZ, but

2402
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 1: it's probably simil. So hopefully this's the censored version.

2403
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,360
Speaker 9: You didn't show up the day with HIV aids Andy

2404
01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:47,160
Speaker 9: WOI give a social EXPANSI many diseases that'll make.

2405
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 1: You thine two three weeks. Put his silk on like

2406
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 1: the up lady.

2407
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 9: If you push the smell like water. Put his silf

2408
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 9: on like the earth fellas, like something fellas.

2409
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 5: If you ain't sucking kicking the parking lot, put yourself

2410
01:59:57,840 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 5: on like.

2411
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:04,440
Speaker 1: Keep it real, suspect as a motherfucker, Let's be real.

2412
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:09,520
Speaker 4: What what right?

2413
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 2: So he then tried to explain his comments and h

2414
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 2: t I also defended his comments.

2415
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:26,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, you got.

2416
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 3: That.

2417
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure the explanation of get to the.

2418
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:40,320
Speaker 2: Uh to the bottom of this hold let me it

2419
02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:42,520
Speaker 2: doesn't want to play on the link that I had.

2420
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 2: Uh the baby responds to criticists homophobe comments.

2421
02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:51,040
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's see. Let's hear his explanation.

2422
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:54,680
Speaker 9: Address this week ass internet ship one time, and I'm

2423
02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 9: gonna get back to giving my love to my things.

2424
02:00:57,520 --> 02:01:00,000
Speaker 9: So what I'm saying, because whip me and my fans

2425
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 9: do with the live show, it don't concern you niggas

2426
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 9: on the internet or you bitter bitches on the internet.

2427
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 9: It's not your business. You know what I'm staying, Like,

2428
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 9: what I do at the live show is for the

2429
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:14,920
Speaker 9: audience at the live show. It'll never translate correctly to

2430
02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 9: somebody looking at a love five six second clip from

2431
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 9: the goddamn crib?

2432
02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 1: What what more context we were missing from the first clip?

2433
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 1: I wonder.

2434
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, because my thing is I could I

2435
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 3: could see you saying this about comedy, because you have

2436
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:35,600
Speaker 3: to have a vibe in the fielding between a lot

2437
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 3: of audience. But we listen to what you said, like,

2438
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:43,720
Speaker 3: maybe that's just me. I don't think nothing was taken

2439
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:48,200
Speaker 3: out of context. So was it something else going on

2440
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 3: that actually led to this?

2441
02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, unless the context is right.

2442
02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:55,400
Speaker 2: Before he said that, he turned to the artists and said, man,

2443
02:01:55,880 --> 02:02:00,040
Speaker 2: you know what ignorant niggas be sounding like.

2444
02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:01,800
Speaker 1: Oy y'all, this is what homophobic people sound like.

2445
02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 2: A nick did that, but that that would be valid.

2446
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the context for missing.

2447
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 9: On their phone.

2448
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:10,640
Speaker 1: It just don't work like that.

2449
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 9: Like no, because regardless of what your mother fus talking about,

2450
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:18,680
Speaker 9: how the internet and twisted up my motherfucking word, me

2451
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 9: and all my fans at the show, the gay ones

2452
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:24,480
Speaker 9: and the straight ones, we turned the fuck up. I'm

2453
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:26,360
Speaker 9: talking about. My boy was at the front of stage,

2454
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:28,360
Speaker 9: left over there by what I jumped at, asking me

2455
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:31,040
Speaker 9: he got clips all on this shit. The whole night

2456
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 9: was of course we would turn the whole night.

2457
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 1: My boy had the crop top on front row. Yeah,

2458
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 1: out there, and.

2459
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:41,240
Speaker 2: That's the I got a gay friends defense. Listen, I

2460
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:44,560
Speaker 2: be homer my gay friends. Let me be homophobic. So

2461
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 2: y'all niggas just don't understand. He was okay with it.

2462
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 1: That's what it's like.

2463
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:53,120
Speaker 2: My wife, I said the N word to Jared. He's

2464
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 2: my best black friend. I mean, what's the problem.

2465
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:59,560
Speaker 9: The jungle in the water. Yeah, he out there, he's

2466
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 9: standing on the real got theamn cutting up words.

2467
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 1: I saw him.

2468
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:05,200
Speaker 9: I'm wrapping them bitches with him.

2469
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2470
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 9: Hell, y'all talking about y'all niggas. Shut the fuck up

2471
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 9: your niggas. You niggas didn't They ain't at the show.

2472
02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 9: The shows for the niggas who paid the money and

2473
02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:17,920
Speaker 9: took the time out of day life to come enjoy

2474
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 9: the show. Not you motherfucker's watching it on the internet

2475
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:24,080
Speaker 9: at the curt old niggas, just get your tickets and

2476
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:27,200
Speaker 9: come fuck with the live show. Killer gay straight and

2477
02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 9: don't let these motherfucker the hell I say. If you

2478
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 9: don't got as put hisself on. Light up. I say,

2479
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 9: if you ain't sut dick in the parking lot, put

2480
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:43,600
Speaker 9: yourself on like so so I could drop my next song.

2481
02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 9: I wasn't going on no rent. That's called a call

2482
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:46,720
Speaker 9: to action.

2483
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:51,320
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Oh well that's okay.

2484
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:58,960
Speaker 2: So read reviews. He was it was a call to action, Garen.

2485
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:02,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't rant, it was you see what I'm saying.

2486
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:07,360
Speaker 2: So then okay, apparently that makes it okay.

2487
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you just misunderstood.

2488
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 2: See when you at the live show and he called,

2489
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:15,640
Speaker 2: you know, he's like, you know, y'all gonna die three

2490
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 2: weeks from HIV and y'all psych a dicks in the

2491
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:19,160
Speaker 2: parking lot.

2492
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:20,280
Speaker 1: Uh.

2493
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:25,440
Speaker 2: And the guy's going, that's that suspect, which is you know,

2494
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:30,200
Speaker 2: definitely a homophobic thing that we say, uh in the community.

2495
02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:33,200
Speaker 1: Uh. That it's different because it's a call to action.

2496
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 1: Then okay, you changed that battery in that fire along.

2497
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:41,960
Speaker 9: It's because I'm a live perform I'm the best live

2498
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:45,360
Speaker 9: perform I'm the live show killer. You interact with your fans,

2499
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:49,240
Speaker 9: you get what I'm saying. Look, all the lights went

2500
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:51,920
Speaker 9: up gate straight. You want to know a while because

2501
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 9: even my gay fans don't get fucking age. Stupid ass niggas.

2502
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 9: They don't got aids. My gay fans they take care

2503
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:09,960
Speaker 9: of themself. They ain't going for that, ain't They ain't

2504
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:11,600
Speaker 9: no nasty gay niggas.

2505
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:19,880
Speaker 1: Oh nooo. He just said. He was like, you know what,

2506
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna brun the house down.

2507
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:26,280
Speaker 3: He just kept talking and he just kept talking.

2508
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 1: You know what.

2509
02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:30,280
Speaker 3: That's this is why we do the show and chairs

2510
02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:32,600
Speaker 3: and sitting up when you get the relaxing and laying

2511
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 3: down with pillars in your bag.

2512
02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:39,600
Speaker 1: The Kevin Hart technique never good. Yeah. Meanwhile, his gay

2513
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:46,400
Speaker 1: friends all in the parking lot.

2514
02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:50,400
Speaker 4: I'm sucking deck right now. Let me call you right back.

2515
02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 2: His gay fans definitely sucks. I'm digging the parking lot.

2516
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:57,440
Speaker 2: People go to concerts too, suck digg in the parking lot.

2517
02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:00,880
Speaker 1: That ain't not wrong with that. In addition to.

2518
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:07,160
Speaker 2: Being homophobic and judgmental, your lied, come on now, your

2519
02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:09,680
Speaker 2: parking Did you know what if nobody sucking dick in

2520
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 2: your uh in the parking lot of your concert, then

2521
02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't jamming?

2522
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 4: Was you doing it right?

2523
02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:16,760
Speaker 1: I put that on God, it's no way and.

2524
02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 3: People be sucking dicks not all, and sometimes it's not

2525
02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:21,200
Speaker 3: always at rap concerts.

2526
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 2: Either, know what I'm saying any lick concerts, dick's being

2527
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:27,360
Speaker 2: sucked in the parking line? Yeah, it is off off gate,

2528
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:32,160
Speaker 2: Like what is what was the problem there? Come on

2529
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:34,480
Speaker 2: now when you say something like that in your concerts,

2530
02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:35,839
Speaker 2: like only half the lights.

2531
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:39,480
Speaker 1: Should go up? Right, Well, technically I was getting my

2532
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 1: dick sucked in the parking line. So okay, I'll put

2533
02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:42,560
Speaker 1: my phone on.

2534
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 4: What sucking dick?

2535
02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:46,680
Speaker 2: But I shined to but my you know, my associate

2536
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:49,440
Speaker 2: somebody lining you put your phone up?

2537
02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What the fuck? You know

2538
02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They ain't no junkies.

2539
02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying on the street. And here

2540
02:06:57,560 --> 02:06:59,720
Speaker 9: you're talking about nigga can I said, if you ain't

2541
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 9: suck dicking and rolling the live parking lot, put your

2542
02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 9: cell phone light up, and knowing my gay fans did.

2543
02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:08,920
Speaker 1: And then it turned to an ad keeps getting worse.

2544
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 1: That's uh, it's pretty bad, I'd say, but uh not

2545
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:17,320
Speaker 1: to be.

2546
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:23,160
Speaker 2: He's not alone in this, Karen, Okay, Uncle Clifford had

2547
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:25,040
Speaker 2: to come out and get involved.

2548
02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:31,080
Speaker 1: T I said, I gotta defend my man. The baby

2549
02:07:31,960 --> 02:07:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, because it's not like it's not like he's

2550
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:42,720
Speaker 1: not dealing with his own issues. I mean, oh, he

2551
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:45,240
Speaker 1: didn't say if you if you out here sex trafficking,

2552
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:47,400
Speaker 1: put your light up. Okay, he didn't say.

2553
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:51,080
Speaker 2: That, you know, so TI I said, listen, let me

2554
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 2: help my man. He's in trouble and he needs.

2555
02:07:55,960 --> 02:07:57,360
Speaker 1: Some help indubitably.

2556
02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:05,640
Speaker 2: You know, first of all, this man is outside on

2557
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:07,480
Speaker 2: the patio or driving or some ship.

2558
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:08,960
Speaker 1: Because the noise is ridiculous.

2559
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:13,240
Speaker 7: I guess you know what I'm saying.

2560
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:15,080
Speaker 6: Social media is full of confusion.

2561
02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:18,760
Speaker 1: You should be able to hear something like someone in

2562
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 1: the trunk like let me out.

2563
02:08:22,720 --> 02:08:24,880
Speaker 7: Words, y'll the mistre.

2564
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:30,680
Speaker 1: And if yat with you? If hold up, miscn strewed,

2565
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 1: am ill smoking, am I smoking crack? Why are they

2566
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:39,960
Speaker 1: trying to insult us? Like we didn't understand?

2567
02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 4: What?

2568
02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:46,000
Speaker 1: Just haven't? What is this ship? Also? See always so

2569
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:48,840
Speaker 1: you that I confused and thought, O, see this is

2570
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 1: what happens. Oh no, y'all fell for it again. Oh

2571
02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:57,840
Speaker 1: so I guess you think.

2572
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:02,839
Speaker 2: My homophobia makes me homophobic? Okay, so you wanted them?

2573
02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:05,680
Speaker 1: Uh let me sexuals have moved right and held them

2574
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 1: section people just see it?

2575
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:14,200
Speaker 6: What was that now and then if if homosexuals have

2576
02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:17,600
Speaker 6: moved right and held them sexual people just seeking mm hmm.

2577
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:31,400
Speaker 1: It's making my brain hurt. I don't know when the

2578
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:38,720
Speaker 1: last time you've been arrested for buggery? Straight person? The

2579
02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:39,600
Speaker 1: fuck is the buggery?

2580
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 3: Uh?

2581
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:43,280
Speaker 1: You might side of me. We've covered it on the

2582
02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:45,560
Speaker 1: show before they were ask gay people for having sex

2583
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:48,880
Speaker 1: with each other that that's on the law just just

2584
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 1: now getting expunged from some people's records, if it all? Yeah?

2585
02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well when the time? When the last time you've

2586
02:09:56,920 --> 02:10:02,760
Speaker 2: been killed for being straight? And you know he's saying gay,

2587
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:05,640
Speaker 2: what you mean LGBTQ. So when's the last time you

2588
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:10,840
Speaker 2: couldn't use the restaroom? Because that is a sign that

2589
02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:13,280
Speaker 2: that corresponded to your agenda, that you didn't have a choice.

2590
02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:16,480
Speaker 1: When's the last time that happened to you straight? Firston

2591
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:26,240
Speaker 1: what aren't you aren't you accused of sex trafficking? What this?

2592
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Speaker 1: What were making me think people did it? Because it's

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Speaker 1: like the audacity, you know what I'm saying. It's like

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Speaker 1: Bill Cosey going to jail and being like.

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Speaker 2: Pour your parents up and you're just like nigga, you

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Speaker 2: have much bigger things to worry about.

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Speaker 1: What is heavening? If they have bigger fish to fry.

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Speaker 2: You know the kind of person that would do this,

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Speaker 2: the kind of person that did the things you're accused of,

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Speaker 2: would do these things. It would if I got accused

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Speaker 2: of some wild shit like this, it would bother the

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Speaker 2: fuck out of me. I wouldn't be just on Instagram

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Speaker 2: going live because the baby had some having this concert.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, man, what the fuck am I gonna

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Speaker 1: do to clear my name? I didn't do these things.

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Speaker 1: These women is to frame me. I'm about to go

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Speaker 1: to prison. I'm not shit.

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Speaker 4: I didn't do this.

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Speaker 1: Man is like, you know what the world need? My

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Speaker 1: take on this, the baby thing.

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Speaker 6: Homosexual saying more rights to helimosexual people, that just say that,

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Speaker 6: let's let that be the law, that the law.

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Speaker 1: I just because I feel like I.

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Speaker 6: Respect I respect age, especially the ones who have the

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Speaker 6: courage and the grave that step back.

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Speaker 1: And live in their tree. That I mean I respect that.

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Speaker 6: I think any human being man walking his hurt, who

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Speaker 6: has the grave, rith and the courage to live their

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Speaker 6: truth unapologetically, I respect that. But that I respect it

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Speaker 6: the same way if you an heterosexual person, I respect.

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Speaker 6: I respect it the same way. So I don't even

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Speaker 6: see what with all the bup loved by some of y'all.

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Speaker 2: Mother one, that's bullshit because he was one of the

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Speaker 2: people that had a problem with the women rapping about

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Speaker 2: sex right like two years ago.

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Speaker 1: What you know what, maybe he was. I don't remember.

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Speaker 6: I remember just be looking to fake caring about your cooks.

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Speaker 6: You ain't got shit help going on.

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Speaker 4: In your life for me. You did.

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Speaker 6: Ain't nothing in the world gonna make me hate nobody

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Speaker 6: just because take do something different in the big room

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Speaker 6: and that it ain't nothing.

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Speaker 2: You had your daughter's hermit. Okay, guys, hey, this has

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Speaker 2: been cool. Thank you for listening to the black out

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Speaker 2: tells we'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's been fun. I can't do this anymore.

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Speaker 2: I've broke it myself because I picked the articles I knew,

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Speaker 2: and I.

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Speaker 1: Still whether I say not, I didn't know. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: can't hand Okay, I can't help. It's too much. It's

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Speaker 1: my bad.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize I was stepping into the ignorance rabbit

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Speaker 2: hole that was gonna be this fucking deep that I

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Speaker 2: can't get my way out of it. So let's just

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Speaker 2: try this again tomorrow and we'll try to have some

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Speaker 2: fun My bad.

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Speaker 1: Sorry if you just got back on iTunes. Whoops, sorry

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Speaker 1: about that. We'll try again.

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Speaker 2: I promise we've been funny on Spotify. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what today it was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we we We've been a lot better.

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Speaker 1: All right. Love you until next time. I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love you too,