1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Advice shogar Llo. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to the Naughty 2 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: but Nice shall. I'm your house drop shooter. It's Thurst Day, 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: which means our friend Mark Lupo is joining us. Mark. 4 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Are you there, hey, Rob? He lower lower low. You 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: just got out the shower. I can tell because your 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: hair is still wet. I'm always shower clean for the show. 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: I love it. Mark. Are you the time for fella 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: that has to have a shower and look good for 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: a zoom call? You know what? It's funny, but I 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: find that I work better when I'm showered and just 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: feeling more fresh, And like myself, I rolled up here 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: and not feeling clean. I think I would do not 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: as a great of a job. But that's so interesting. 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: It's like if you put on a nice pair of shoes, 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: sometimes you walk a little bit taller. When you feel fresh, 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: you're ready to work. Well, that's good news for us, 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: because it's time to get into all the work of 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: the day. What time is it, my friends? It is TV. 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: There is a scramble going on right now to find 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: a replacement for Ellen Degenerous. So Ellen Show is ending 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: next year twenty two, so she gets to do a 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: Goodbye LAP. It's after nineteen seasons, which is ridiculous for TV. 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: It's huge, huge, huge. However, she's going to leave a 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: huge hole in daytime TV schedule, which now celebrities are 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: scrambling to fill. Sources tell me that Kelly Clarkson is 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 1: the front runner to get the Ellen time slots across 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: the country. So Ellen literally owns the most desirable real 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: estate on TV. You don't want to just be on TV, 29 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: you want to be on on those really good time slots. 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: So daytime TV, if you get that to that three 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: o'clock slot. Ellen's in different time slots around the country, 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: but overall, Ellen's got the best real estate. So if 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: we all lived on a on a street and we 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: all had a TV show on that street, Ellen's got 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: the nicest house, you know, you know, the best house, 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: the biggest garden. So everyone's scrambling to get this slot. 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm told Kelly Clarkson most likely will get it because 38 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: Kelly has already proven herself in a less desirable time slot. 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: So if you're doing as well as Kelly in not 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: the greatest slot, not a bad one, it's not two am, 41 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: you know you're in trouble. When your show is after 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock, that's not a good time slot. Kelly is 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: in a good slot, but Ellen's in a slightly better one. 44 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: Do you think Kelly is going to get those slots? 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Mark Rob I really hope she does. Because Kelly Clarkson, 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: if you've ever met her, she's so lovely, she's so talented. 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: I've been a fan of her since her appearance on 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: America at All, like twenty years ago, and she's really 49 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: proved us wrong in a way. I didn't think I 50 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of hope for Kelly Clarkson's talk 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: show because it's like, how many more celebrity talk shows 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: do we need? But you know what, I find myself 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: really loving it when I watched it. So Kelly fingers 54 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: cross for you. She had me at show number one. 55 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: When she comes out, sings a song, makes fun of herself, 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: sits down on that chair, and she doesn't care for 57 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: dresses a bit wrinkled or if she's not shot from 58 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: her best angle, she's not doing that. She's so real. 59 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: I love the Kelly Show. Let me tell you some 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: other names, though, of people that are trying to get 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: the Ellen slot. So the new York Post is reporting 62 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: Tiffany Haddish is one of the French runners for that 63 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: time slot. I think she'd be great with a talk show. 64 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: Although we should remember Mark, you did point out a 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: lot of celebrities have tried this and it hasn't worked. 66 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Remember there was Meredith Vieira show, Katie Current Show, MS, 67 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: Jenna's Show, Bethany Frankel's show, Coco Show. Yes, Anderson Cooper 68 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't find an audience. Also to Nissi Nash is 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: developing your show? No, no, not for me. You know 70 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: what the it's it's just think that it's just a 71 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: lot harder than you think it is, because you know, 72 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: I come from a daytime TV background, Rob I worked 73 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: at Wendy Williams, Entire Banks and a bunch of other shows, 74 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: and it's a lot harder than you think it is 75 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: to keep a talk show going. I know Jerry O'Connell 76 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: is someone who's really wanted to talk show. He's right 77 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: now he's co hosting on The Talk, which is another 78 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: show it's kind of about to, I think, exit from 79 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: the landscape of television. And it's like, you know, you 80 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: really have to prove that you can bring in the 81 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: audience to make this work. What is it in your 82 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: experience all those shows you've worked at, and you interned 83 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: at Kelly and Regius back in the day, so you're 84 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: really seeing sort of the grand grand shows. There's nothing 85 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: bigger than that show. What is it that makes a 86 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: daytime show a hit? What's what? What makes when do 87 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: you hit? What makes Kelly a hit? What? What do 88 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: you think it is? I think it's the authenticity of 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 1: the host and their ability to kind of say whatever 90 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: they are thinking. So a Wendy, a Regius, Philbin, Kelly Ripper, 91 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: they are just they are the real deal. And I 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: think that's kind of where Ellen fell off, is that 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: Ellen portrayed this, you know, be nice to one another 94 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: and Rob, we've known for decades that Ellen is not 95 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: that person. We've known these stories that have been going 96 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: on at the set, and then when it finally came 97 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: to light, it's like it's hard to kind of watch 98 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: the show in the same way absolutely talking about Ellen 99 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: being nice or not. Ellen is saying she's leaving the 100 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: show and this was the plan all along. Her contract 101 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: expires in two and she said that was the plan. However, 102 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: insiders are telling me, not exactly. And if that was 103 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: the plan, Ellen didn't really tell anybody about this. It 104 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: was a very private plan. I'm not doubting her here. 105 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubts, 106 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: But if she intended to leave next year, she hadn't 107 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: told anybody. She kept this a big secret. So the 108 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: staff now all have to find new jobs. Do you 109 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: think it's going to be difficult for people to find 110 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: jobs after working with the Ellen Show or it's all 111 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: the toxic allegations on Ellen? Well, I think at the 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: hands on what your role was. So there were a 113 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: few executives who had to exit the show last year, 114 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: and those people are certainly going to be looked at 115 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: with the side I but if you're a producer or 116 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: a production assistant or someone who was just instantly working there, 117 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't hold it against them. If anything, I would 118 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: look at them and think, you worked at the number 119 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: one talk show for two decades, and I think you 120 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: probably have a lot of talent. Because it takes a 121 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: lot of people to make the Ellen Show what it is. 122 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't just Ellen, so we can't discredit all the work. 123 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: And Ellen is a Trailblazer. She's doing a show on 124 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: TV for nineteen years. Just quite an incredible feet You 125 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: know it really is, isn't it. One of the reasons 126 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: the show is going away is not just that the 127 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: numbers have dropped considerably, the costs haven't. So TV is 128 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: a business. There are a lot of shows that would 129 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: love to have Ellen's ratings, nine viewers. It's a hit show. 130 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: The problem for Ellen is her show is budgeted to 131 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: get over a million a week. So the option she 132 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: really had is do you want to take a pay cut? 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: Do you want to fire half the staff? There's some 134 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: really cheap, cheerful shows out there that will last forever. 135 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: I think of Watch What Happens Live? Andy Cohen only 136 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: gets about two hundred three hundred thousand viewers, but the 137 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: show is so cheap. And I say that with respect. 138 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: I like these shows. I don't like overproduced anymore. Gone 139 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: of the days of ten producers and fireworks and all 140 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: the stunts. Give me a bar, give me a bar, 141 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: give me two chairs. Really what Wendy does? That's my 142 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: type of show. Now, what do you like as a producer? 143 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Do you like this big, overproduced shows? Mark? Would you 144 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: like the little sort of scrappy ones like good Selves. 145 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: It's still I love a scrappy show, of course, Rob. 146 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: And it's funny because when I was working at Wendy 147 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: for all those years and I saw the shows like 148 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: Meredith and Katie and Anderson come and go, they'd have 149 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: these these elaborate orchestras and bands, all the stuff and 150 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: all this money, and we're all kind of like, this 151 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: is still not good. And we're over there just like 152 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: in the small studio, like very but fun. We had 153 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: a good time. He had a DJ and it just works. 154 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I agree with you, Rob, And 155 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: I've said the audience of Watch What Happens Live, it's 156 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: very a very very small set fun. Yeah, it's like 157 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: it's more about the talent than it is about the production. 158 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. When I go to the Today Show, it's massive, 159 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: it's a it's a massive machine. There's ten producers running around. 160 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: When you go to the Wendy Show, if you want 161 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: a producer and Wendy and I think that's the secret 162 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: source of that show. It's so small yet so big 163 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: in personality. I think it's it's awfully winning. So that's 164 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: my advice moving forward. So Kelly, if you do get 165 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: the Ellen timeslot, keep the show small, don't get too big, 166 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: which brings us to our pole question of the day. 167 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: Ellen Show is ending in two Do you think she quit? 168 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Do you think Ellen was fired? It's a sourcing question. 169 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Quit go birds on to it a page at Naughty Nights. 170 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: A Facebook page is Naughty Gossip and be sure to 171 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: check back tomorrow to hear your results. Mark Love, what 172 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: are you working on? This is a very ugly story 173 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: almost it almost pains me to deliver it up. This 174 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: is our job, so here we go, all right. Christie 175 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: Teagan is ashamed over her past bullying behavior. So Christie 176 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: Teagan has asked forgiveness in a very very long Twitter 177 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: thread for cyber bullying Courtney stodded in the past after 178 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: the reality star accused Chrissie of telling them to kill themselves. Okay, 179 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: so Chrissie said, quote, I'm mortified and sad at who 180 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: I used to be. She added, I was insecure, attention 181 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: seeking troll. I am ashamed and completely embarrassed at my behavior, 182 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: but that is nothing compared to how I made Courtney 183 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: feel now Rob earlier this week, Courtney, who was just 184 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: twenty six years old, alleged that Christie didn't just privately 185 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: d M and told them to kill themselves, but she 186 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: also said I can't wait for you to die, which 187 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: is pretty just evil and very disturbing. Now. Courtney, who 188 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: identifies as non binary and uses the they then pronouns, 189 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: first came to fame in two thousand and eleven when 190 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: they married a then fifty one year old Doug Hutchinson, 191 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: and Courtney says that at the time that's when a 192 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: lot of the cyber bullying began in her life, and 193 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: Christie Teagan added, after all this has came to light 194 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: that she tried to apologize to Courtney directly, but that 195 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: the public also needed to be aware of her of 196 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: her words, Chrissie said again quote, I am so sorry Courtney. 197 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: I hope you can heal now knowing how deeply sorry 198 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: I am. She concluded her Twitter thread by saying, and 199 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: I am so sorry to I have let you guys down. 200 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: Speaking to her fans, I will forever work on being 201 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: better than I was ten years ago, one year ago, 202 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: six months ago, Courtney. I know that Courtney has not 203 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: responded to the the apology. I will say this Rob 204 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: I I can appreciate that Christie Teacken has at least 205 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: owned this and has apologized directly to the public and 206 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: to Courtney, but I'm very disturbed by the story in general, 207 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: and I just something feels really really off here because 208 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm shocked by this story. This is a real apology. 209 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: This is how you apologize everybody when we mess up, 210 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: and we all do when you mess up. This is 211 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: how to apologize. You own it and you say sorry. 212 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: What I'm disturbed about is what Courtney is a legend. 213 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: If Chrissie said that, that is not the Chrissie I know. 214 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: And I know we all have off days. I know 215 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: we all say things that we regret, but that's really dark. 216 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: I've snapped at people. I have, I've been rude to people. 217 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: I've done things in my past then I'm not proud 218 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: of at all. But I've never reached out to somebody 219 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: to tell them to do that to die. I just 220 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: haven't done that. It's just not in my I might 221 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: call names, which I hate, I hate doing that, but 222 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: I might have done it. I probably have. I might 223 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: have been a bully. I've probably done that too, but 224 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: I don't believe I would ever go that far. Chrissie. 225 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: This is so so disturbing, but I do think you 226 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: handled it in the only way that could ever even 227 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: start to make this right. Moving along, Megan and Harry 228 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: are talking about baby names, so we did not know 229 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: the name yet for their little baby. We know it's 230 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: going to be a girl, but royal watchers, particularly in Britain, 231 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: and now placing bets bets, placing bets on what the 232 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: name will be. The number one choice at the moment 233 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: is Philippa. Now that is the female version of Prince 234 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: Philip's name. Prince Philip just passed away, so maybe honor 235 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: Prince Philip. Another name that keeps coming up is of 236 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: course Diana. Of course we all know who that is 237 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: in reference to. And another name to is Lily. Now 238 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: when the Queen was a little girl, when Queen Elizabeth 239 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: was a little girl and we did not know she 240 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: was going to become the queen, and her uncle abdicated 241 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: and it changed the line of succession, so as a 242 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: little girl, her nickname was a little Bit. It's adorable. 243 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: Out of the three, obviously, Diana has the most emotional 244 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: weight for me, but I think I like a little 245 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: bit what do you like? I like a little bit. 246 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: I like the little idea. I think it's very cute 247 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: and thinks with a pressure of having to be named Diana, like, 248 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: you'll never be Princess Diana. It's just it's too much 249 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: for a young person. So something sweet and cute like 250 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: that would be great. It's really cute, isn't it. Also, 251 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: to let's point out that before Princess Charlotte was born 252 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: to his brother William and Kate, the book is predicted 253 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: Charlotte would be the name. They got it right before. 254 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: So let's see if they get it right a day 255 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: and mark. What's going on with a bachelor Colton Underwood? 256 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: The story is a wild Colton Underwood is saying that 257 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: he was blackmail. Okay, I do like a blackmail story though, Okay, 258 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: so Golton Underwood claims that he didn't come out of 259 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: the closet willingly, but he was forced to due to blackmail. Yikes. Okay, 260 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: So the bachelor star says an anonymous creep claimed to 261 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: have secretly taken nude photographs of him at an l 262 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: a gay spot and then threatened out him, which prompted 263 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: his decision to publicly reveal his orientation last month, he said, quote, 264 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: I at one point during my rock bottom and spiraled 265 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: was getting blackmailed. No one knows I was blackmailed. Rob 266 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: Courtney told Variety that he got the threat in an 267 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: email after going to the club, which he claims he 268 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: visited just to look, which is fair. If you're someone 269 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: who's you know, trying to investigate yourself and and understand 270 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: your sexuality, you do do those things. But he's received 271 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: since coming out, he received a lot of backlash and 272 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: flak and about his decision to come out, also as 273 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: it coordinates with his new upcoming Netflix show, but he 274 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: says that this was all in good intentions and that 275 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: he really had no choice. He wanted to be you know, 276 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: get ahead of it and released the news himself. Rob 277 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: I heard for him. I read the article. It's so 278 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: sad when someone tries to take that moment away from you, 279 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: when someone wants to out you. It's happened to people 280 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: I know, and it's I think it's a devastating. You 281 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: kind of have to operate on your own time. What 282 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: do you think about this? Yeah, it's awful. We do 283 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: not add people on this show on our websites, which 284 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: just it's just something we don't do. But also too, 285 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: if I'm a closeted gay man, a celebrity closeted gay man, 286 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't probably go to a gay spas slash club, 287 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: slash place where there's cameras available. So I think it's 288 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: a really really tricky story. My generation of gay guys 289 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: still gets a little bit uncomfortable mark when I'm in 290 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: a gay bar and younger people are they're taking self 291 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: is because I still think of those bars as a 292 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: place where I would hide. Ten years ago or so, 293 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: when I went to a gay bar, they were not 294 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: celebrated and open places. They were normally down the dark alley. 295 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: They didn't have windows. You'd have to like knock on 296 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: a on a dirty door and sort of creeping, and 297 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: he's kind of exciting. I must admit there's something sort 298 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: of thrilling about it. But now, thank goodness, it has 299 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: become so normalized, wonderful. But now you don't know, particularly 300 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: where I live in Chelsea in New York City, you 301 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: don't know if the bars gay you're straight, because the 302 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: mix of people is so brilliant. But I must admit, 303 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: when I see young young people in a gay bar 304 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: twenty one years old, and they pull out their cameras 305 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: to say self, is I look around the room and 306 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: they're like, oh gosh, there's a gentleman over there in 307 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: a suit. Maybe he's still in the closet. Do you 308 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: think like that or not at all? I understand what 309 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: you're saying, and I do agree, Rob. I think there 310 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: are people who are still struggling and then that's like 311 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: kind of their only outlet to kind of be free 312 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: and have that moment. And and yeah, maybe they don't 313 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: want to be photographed because if someone sees it, it 314 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: will out then. So you kind of have to think 315 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: twice you live. When you're a gay person, you have 316 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: to think you navigat the world in a very different way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 317 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: do you do. Hey, We're going to take a quick break, Mark, 318 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: and we will be all right back. Welcome back to 319 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: the Naughty but Nice. I'm your host top Shooter with 320 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: our friend Mark Loopoh hey, Loopy, let's get to the 321 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: polls dot dot, I love your fan. Alex Rodriguez has 322 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: been spotted at for the first time since Benefit Part 323 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: two officially started. Would you be angry or would you 324 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: be embarrassed? If your ex moved on this fast, angry 325 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: or embarrassed? Fifty seven percent said angry. Where would you 326 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: be Mark, embarrassed, angry or a little bit of both. 327 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: I would say a little bit of both. Damn, his 328 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: ego is bruised. Bruised. They don't forget To vote on 329 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: today's poll. Go to our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Robber. 330 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: On facebook page is Naughty Gossip. Sure to check back 331 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: tomorrow to hear your results. And now it's time for 332 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: the nicest of the day. Oh, the nicest of the day. 333 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: It's Kennice Cameron Burrey. She's opening up about her friendship 334 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: with Laurie Laughlin. And you know, we know Canadice. She 335 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: is a woman of the cloth. She you know, she's 336 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: all about prayer and forgiveness. And Candice Cameron is now 337 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: saying that her friendship with Laurie is still strong. She said, quote, yes, 338 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: I've talked to Laurie many times since her release from 339 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: prison and she's doing very well. Robbins does not come 340 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: as a surprise to me. They've the cast of Full 341 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: House has always been very supportive of Laurie, even throughout 342 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: these tumultus past few years. So you know it's cute. 343 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: I get it, and she's just playing her part in this. 344 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: I like her. I'm big unforgiveness though. If a friend 345 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: of mine went to jail, Mark, if you did something awful, 346 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: you wouldn't. But if you did and went to jail, 347 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: I did there to pick you up and came out. 348 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: I would, and I honestly I could find forgiveness. I 349 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: really could. What about you, You're a little bit more 350 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: judge than I am. Oh if you upset Mark Lupo, yeah, 351 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: I'm judgi, But much like yourself, Rob, I would be 352 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: there at the end of the day. I would come 353 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: and pick you up. I pick you up and go 354 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: for drinks with you. Hey, nicest of the day, and 355 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: now I'm naughtiest the day, nor laughty. Sophie Turner is 356 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: slamming the paparazzi, So she took to an Instagram story, 357 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: which she since deleted, but I got a screen grab 358 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: where she got really candid addressing paparazzi who had taken 359 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: pictures of her ten month old daughter, Willa. She said, 360 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: I guess yesterday some paparazzi managed to get a picture 361 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: of my daughter, and I just want to say that 362 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: there's a reason that I'm not posting pictures of my daughter, 363 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: and she's trying to avoid the paparazzi at all costs. 364 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: She doesn't want those pictures out there. She is my daughter, 365 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: she said, she did not ask for this life. She 366 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: did not ask to be photographed. I respect that. Now, 367 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: if you're a celebrity and you pose with your kids, 368 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: if you put them in your music videos, I get 369 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: then it's fair game. But if you go out of 370 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: your way to hide these these little children, if you 371 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: don't sell their photographs, their images, their birth pictures to 372 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: people or a sweetly, I get it. I would respect this. 373 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: So it sort of made me a little bit annoyed. 374 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: How you're the naughtiest of the day. Back off, and 375 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: now it's time for a moment of Rob. You gotta Rob, 376 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: You gotta rob? You get a rob? What you get? Mark? 377 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: You Gotta Rob? And what is this segment? Sponsored by 378 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: Mark by your new book? The four word answer you 379 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: the title, did Doris get a copy of My Whole Family? 380 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: Is leading patiently? They're gonna be so disappointed. They're going 381 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: to be change your relationship with the past, and you'll 382 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: change your relationship with the future. A bright tomorrow requires 383 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: that you deal with the dark wounds from yesterday right now. 384 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: Forgiveness is key. If you want to have a bright tomorrow, Mark, 385 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: You've gotta deal with the dark past today. It's true. 386 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: I got a therapy every single week to do just that, 387 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: to forgive and to move forward. It's amazing too, what 388 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: you didn't think was a wound in the past. When 389 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: you start talking about it, you realize I never dealt 390 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: with that. Oh yeah, it's incredible when you hold on 391 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: to and you internalize, Yeah, it's really really crazy. I 392 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: never I never thought that was a problem, and now 393 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: that I started to talk about it, it was a 394 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: huge problem, and I carried it around for years. Talk 395 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: about your problems, my friends, and we're here to listen. 396 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: That's it for today. Thank you, Mark, and thank you 397 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: for listening to The Naughty but Eyes with Robin Mark Show, 398 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. Don't forget to subscribe 399 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app Apple podcast. Wherever you listen, 400 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: leave us a review if you can. Hey, Mark, we're 401 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: getting all these new reviews. Mainly for me. I don't 402 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: see many things. Just say, Jonathan, your brother, what about 403 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: that father of yours. I don't see your reviews. Really, 404 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: just saying all together, if you're getting to be paughty, 405 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: you've got to be nice. It's naughty but nice with 406 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: bro