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Speaker 1: Podcast channel. I'm Matt Taylor, part of that Jack Doyle

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Speaker 1: and recap it all. But man, old man, that's one

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Speaker 2: Room, Yeah, that hurts. That flight back hurts, but you

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Speaker 2: gotta move on, right, We gotta move on. We got

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Speaker 2: another challenge coming up. It kind of turns into a

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Speaker 2: short week when you have a far trip out west

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Speaker 2: that's tough, man. That's the NFL. It's gonna be these

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Speaker 1: No doubt about a good point right there. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: discuss all of the self infliction that occurred by the

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Speaker 1: the Colts are at big picture here after we're you know,

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Speaker 3: It messes it up right there with you.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know where the quarter of the season exists.

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Speaker 1: was I mean, you're playing a really good Rams team,

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Speaker 1: So Jack, when you went back and you watched the tape,

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Speaker 2: just getting back to being efficient on first down, cleaning

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Speaker 2: Well, the good thing about me, Matt is I never

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Speaker 1: And but you still see the ball coming your way. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like you said, though, I still have a pit in

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Speaker 1: And one final point on this, and you mentioned it,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean you see it in this play is

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Speaker 1: You know, in high school, I dropped a we were

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Speaker 1: All right. Let's talk about a bright spot though, your

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Speaker 3: No, he makes other.

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Speaker 1: Jones's comfort level with Tyler Warren continuing to grow and

438
00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,960
Speaker 1: continue to blossom and everything that he can do for

439
00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:50,360
Speaker 1: this off.

440
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Tyler just carries himself like such a veteran

441
00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,160
Speaker 2: on the field. Just again, we've talked about it early.

442
00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,480
Speaker 2: Just his patience and his routes is something that you know,

443
00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,560
Speaker 2: is just so impressive to me. And he should have

444
00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,359
Speaker 2: had more again, I'm gonna go back to the OPI

445
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,520
Speaker 2: call that was terrible, and then he should have had

446
00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,399
Speaker 2: what that would be eighty five yards or whatever whatever

447
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,639
Speaker 2: it would have been. But just his patience and the

448
00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,160
Speaker 2: trust that or that Daniel has in Tyler. You can

449
00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,359
Speaker 2: see that and who he's looking for. And there was

450
00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,280
Speaker 2: times when he's you know, he hit him over the

451
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,360
Speaker 2: middle of the field on a little bender route and

452
00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,840
Speaker 2: Daniel had someone in his face, and you know he's

453
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,359
Speaker 2: not throwing that ball, you know, blindly a little bit

454
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,199
Speaker 2: to someone he doesn't trust exactly. So that trust is

455
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,600
Speaker 2: gonna and the scary thing, like you're saying, Matt, is

456
00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,480
Speaker 2: that trust is going to continue to build, right, It's

457
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 2: only going to get better. And these guys are continue

458
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,600
Speaker 2: to connect on big plays for the Colts.

459
00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,679
Speaker 1: For sure. So that's what the Colts are doing with

460
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,480
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren in the passing game on the other side

461
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,359
Speaker 1: of the ball, and the Colts defensive passing game. Obviously

462
00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,440
Speaker 1: some things to shore up there, So Matthew Stafford goes

463
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 1: for three seventy five. Puka Nakua played the Colts all

464
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,600
Speaker 1: game long, and it wasn't just the yardage, it was

465
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Speaker 1: just the timeliness of the catches. Third down. I remember

466
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Speaker 1: what second and sixteen at one point in the first half,

467
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Speaker 1: I think it was the last drive of the first half.

468
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,160
Speaker 1: The ninety six yard drive that resulted in a touchdown

469
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,159
Speaker 1: for the Rams really kind of switched the momentum, especially

470
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 1: going into halftime. But it was second in sixteen they

471
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 1: throw that tunnel screen to Nakua. Yeah, and he, you know,

472
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 1: catches a couple of blocks and gets a first down.

473
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,639
Speaker 1: But the secondary obviously has come under fire. So what

474
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 1: did you make of how difficult it was for the

475
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,960
Speaker 1: Colts to slow down a superstar like Pooka Nakua and

476
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,479
Speaker 1: any changes that need to be made there tweaks that.

477
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you're down, Kenny Moore, I understand that, but

478
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 1: what do you make of what's going on in the

479
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 1: back end here?

480
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, you're playing a Hall of Fame

481
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 2: quarterback and Pooka is a stud man. I mean not

482
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 2: only talking about what he was doing in the passing game.

483
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 2: There was one time they had him like motion into

484
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 2: the backfield. He looked like a full back and he

485
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: was kicking out Zaiir on like a power play. I'm like,

486
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 2: this dude's a football player. So he's a really impressive player.

487
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 2: But speaking on the Colts back end, you know, there's

488
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 2: been a lot of injuries, you know, and that's tough

489
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 2: to to come back from it. And they're still playing

490
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 2: in a new system. I think we came out on

491
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,640
Speaker 2: fire there in that Miami game, and we still need

492
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: to keep playing together as a group in the back

493
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 2: end because there's a lot of communication that goes on there, yeah,

494
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: and making sure we're all on the same page. And

495
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 2: I know those guys, you know, they want that that

496
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 2: ninety six yard drive right before half back because it

497
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 2: was a lot of little checkdowns, right and little things

498
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 2: like that to kind of get them down the field.

499
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 2: And then they hit Davante on a on a you know,

500
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 2: a little bender route there for the touchdown, so I

501
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 2: know they want that drive back and getting a leader

502
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: back and Kenny Moore will be big. But I don't

503
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: think Hilton did a bad job stepping in there. You know,

504
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 2: he made the big play on the blitz and the

505
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,199
Speaker 2: b gapp But the more of those dbs can, you know,

506
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: get more walk through together and playing with each other.

507
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 2: You know, dB is almost here a lot with old lineman, right,

508
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: and and how important communication is and playing you know,

509
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: you know one is five, you know five is one, right,

510
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 2: and it's it's very different, it's very similar on the

511
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 2: back end. So those guys need to continue to play

512
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: together and and and Loup puts them in a bunch

513
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: of different situations. So the more reps and walkthroughs and

514
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 2: practices we can get, I think I think it will improve.

515
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 1: But the reality of the situation though, within that position

516
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: group is that that's been hit really hard, especially a corner.

517
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean you thought about, or go back to think

518
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 1: about what that position group was going to look like

519
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 1: at the beginning of training camp. There was so much

520
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: depth you had Juju Brent's coming back. Obviously he's not

521
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: here anymore. Jalen Jones, who's on IR with a chance

522
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 1: to come off IR soon. He's dealt with a hamstring

523
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: since you know late OTAs you know, Kenny Moore goes

524
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Speaker 1: down with an injury. I mean, just so on and

525
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: so forth. I mean, so many things have happened. You know,

526
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: Jonathan Edwards is being asked to take on more. I

527
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: mean he makes the team as an undrafted free agent. Yeah,

528
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: but nobody saw that coming at the beginning of training

529
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 1: camp because of how stacked in terms of depth the

530
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: Colts were at that position. And it's it's been hard

531
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: for for continuity, but also like you said to to

532
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, gain that synergy and to gain that chemistry

533
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: the guys have to have with all these different moving

534
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: pieces guys and guys out coming back, going out of

535
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: the lineup, it's been tough not making excuses. Oh yes,

536
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: you know Xavi and Howard was picked up right before

537
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: the start of the season, was out of football all

538
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: last year. The culture, my point is the culture playing

539
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: with less than an ideal situation, less than a full

540
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: deck of cards in the second area.

541
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's really tough to play with.

542
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,959
Speaker 2: It is, like you said, we don't want to make

543
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: excuses and and that's life in the NFL. Right, There's

544
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: going to be injuries. It's your job as coaches, your

545
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: job as players to get everybody ready to go. And

546
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: and again it wasn't all bad, you know. You know,

547
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 2: you give up a bunch to one player who who,

548
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: like you said, had timely catches and and and and

549
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: made you know, they made more plays than to win

550
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 2: the game. Right, I mean that's the NFL. So how

551
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 2: are we going to respond? It's always going to come

552
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 2: back to that. And and those guys are going to continue,

553
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: like I said, to get that connection and continue to

554
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,719
Speaker 2: work together. And hopefully we can get some guys back

555
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 2: from injury to help and I think I think we'll

556
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: be okay.

557
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Speaker 1: All right, we're taking a look at the big picture now.

558
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: The Colts are three and one, tied for first place

559
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: in the AFC South with Jacksonville Jaguars. Let's start there

560
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: or pick up there a little bit of a tangent

561
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: before we close out the show. I've been really impressed

562
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: with Jacksonville, I mean Tennessee and Houston. Yeah, Wolf, okay,

563
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: you know you know, like buzz your girlfriend, Wolf, Okay,

564
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean somebody had to win that game. I guess

565
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: the lesser of two evils was the Houston Texans in

566
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: that case. Okay, but my gosh, I think the Jacksonville Jaguars,

567
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: I think are very formidable. What do you make of

568
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: how they're playing so far?

569
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they look tough, man, they just want a great

570
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: game against the forty nine ers, and there will be

571
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 2: a tough challenge, and they're playing with a new injury

572
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: or new energy. They got a new coach in there,

573
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: and sometimes I can help wake up an organization and

574
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: wake wake up a team. So it's gonna be a

575
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: tough challenge. And then we've talked about these division games, right,

576
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: it's just something a little more, you know. And I

577
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: don't like any of the division teams, you know, I said,

578
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 2: I don't like this. I don't like the Jaguars, you know,

579
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: I like any of them. So so yeah, the Colts

580
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: are again, we put ourselves in a great spot. We're

581
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Speaker 2: three and one. Who wouldn't have taken that? Someone tell

582
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: you in training camp, right, and we have a great

583
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: opportunity the next couple of weeks to you know, it's

584
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: one week at a time, but we get to talk

585
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: differently because we're not playing. Welcome, Welcome to this side

586
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: on this side, right, So we got a great opportunity

587
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: to home games here coming up to to kind of

588
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, continue this great.

589
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 3: Start, all right.

590
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: I gave you some homework, all right, I hope you

591
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: don't mind. Let's see how you did. I gave Jack

592
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: some homework. I asked him all right on the podcast.

593
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Speaker 1: Here to close out, give me your four brightest spots

594
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Speaker 1: on this Colts roster, this Colts team. It could be

595
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: a player or a coach or an aspect of the team.

596
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: After four games and a three and one start, your

597
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: four brightest stars, if you will, for this cults work.

598
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. Number one. Surprise Surprise Tyler Warren. Right.

599
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: I mean, this dude's just carrying himself like a veteran.

600
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 2: He's a football player. You know, there's just not a

601
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,239
Speaker 2: bigger fan of Tyler Warren than Jack Doyle right now.

602
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I love the way this dude plays.

603
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,239
Speaker 3: Tight End.

604
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: You know, he does it in the run game, you know,

605
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: as a blocker and as a runner, and you know

606
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: he obviously doing it in the past game. And then

607
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: tight End's job is to build the trust and be

608
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 2: a guy that the quarterback can depend on. And Tyler

609
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: has exceeded my expectations so far.

610
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: He's been great. Number two, Daniel, you know, well, we'll

611
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 3: keep it.

612
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: You know, obviously I'm more biased to the offensive side,

613
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: if you guys haven't figured that out.

614
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Daniel has been great man.

615
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 2: And the way he's played, and even you know, first

616
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: couple of turnovers this game, you know that's going to

617
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: happen the NFL. But I was really impressed with how

618
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: he responded after the one, you know, early in the game,

619
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Speaker 2: and still you know, delivered under pressure, right and and

620
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: and you know that's just something that you know, again,

621
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: you tell the Colts, you know, fans, whatever, this is

622
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: what we're gonna have after four weeks. And the way

623
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: he's played, everybody in the world will take that. He's

624
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: just done a great job.

625
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Speaker 1: He's the NFL and QBR.

626
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: It's just it's just so impressive and Colts are lucky

627
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: to have him. I think that number two all right,

628
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: here we go. Number three.

629
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Speaker 3: Hmmm. Can I give Rego a shout out for his punts?

630
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

631
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Speaker 2: I mean, Irigo's my guy and my friends, so I'm

632
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: gonna give him a shout out. Here, but his punt,

633
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: I know it didn't and you know they end up

634
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: going ninety six on us. But what an awesome lot

635
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: he had. Him and Ashton Dueling are still doing, you know,

636
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: playing catch out there right, it's it's the punt, put

637
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: it right in the right spot, Ashton Dueling being his

638
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: guy and smokes the guy for another great plight. I

639
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: mean that was just so impressive. And then we were

640
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 2: kind of joking earlier. He's been doing great with his holds, right,

641
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: you know we're not using them. He's doing great with

642
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 2: this hold. So so I've been very impressed with that,

643
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: all right. And number four, Oh, I guess I gotta

644
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: go defense, right.

645
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: Okay, you don't have to, but I don't have to

646
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: feel obligated.

647
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 3: I feel I feel a.

648
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: Little obligated, right, you know, the Forrest Buckner and I'll

649
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: just talk about the forest in general. Because the way

650
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: this guy plays football, I hope fans notice it because

651
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: he's making tackles on the numbers right, d tackles don't

652
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: do that right, his pursuit of the ball, and he

653
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 2: was so close multiple times for sacks this past against

654
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 2: the Rams. He was getting held. It was like this

655
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: tons of penoties were thrown. Where where the hold you know,

656
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: where the holds on the forest. Like he just he

657
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: gets a single block, The guard has no chance.

658
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle calling out, Carl Shefferds, this is awesome.

659
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: He just destroys the guy when he gets a single block.

660
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: And and maybe I didn't, you know, I'm watching more

661
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: on the Defense, you know, watching Colts Defense on film

662
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: as I'm you know, preparing to talk about the Colts

663
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: on this podcast, right and I'm just he just jumps

664
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: off the film at me, and like I already knew that,

665
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: but I'm getting reminded again just how special this guy is.

666
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: And and the sacks are going to come. I know

667
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: he's still, you know, waiting on that first one to

668
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: come up this year, but he sets up other guys

669
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: and he's just a great, great player. So there's plenty

670
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: of ways I can go with that fourth one. But

671
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: I got to give a shout out to DeForest Buckner.

672
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: And the wells playing within that. Maybe like a deep cut,

673
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: honorable mention, staying where you left off. How about Ada

674
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: tomill at a bar A, Yeah, all right, this is

675
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: a guy. He's in his third year the Colts. I

676
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: think in the last couple of years, I have been

677
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: in such desperate search of stability in the in the

678
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: backup defensive tackle game, right because when Grover Stewart and

679
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: to Forrest Buckner off the field, that we can't play

680
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: the entire game. Noticeable drop off, especially in the running game.

681
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: My man added Tomawa Tommy as we like to call him.

682
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: I think the Colts may have found something a really

683
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: consistent for us. He had a sack the other day.

684
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: Consistent pressure up the middle. I really like the way

685
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: he's playing.

686
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he made it.

687
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: I remember making a play he was getting doubled on

688
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: the backside, swam through tackle for loss off on a

689
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: run ploff.

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00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: I mean, he's just he's jumping off the film too.

691
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: And like you said, if it's felt in the past,

692
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: when Grover and the Forest were out, it almost felt like.

693
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure. You know.

694
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: As an offensive play car we would always have plays

695
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: that would be you know, say we were playing the

696
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: Ramps and Aaron Donald and we would have five to

697
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: six calls on that play on that play sheet that

698
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: were when it would say when ninety nine is out,

699
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: oh my gosh. Yeah, And so we would.

700
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: Only get nine less plays we would only call these

701
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: plays when he's out.

702
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: You know, it was a deep play action or something

703
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: like that, or maybe it was a wham block, you know,

704
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: something like that to only when you know, this super

705
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: talented dude was out of the game. And I know

706
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: teams are probably doing the same thing. When we're playing,

707
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: the colts are saying, oh, you know in the past,

708
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: maybe it was ninety nine and ninety or out. Yeah,

709
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: here we go, let's get this inside run game going.

710
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: Especially when you're on schedule. Yeah, down a distance, yeah right.

711
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're thinking, you know, these guys are out,

712
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: These are when I want to run these plays. But

713
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: if we can fill that role the way he has

714
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: and and and continue to play at a high level,

715
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: you know, those plays go away, right, and those shot

716
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: plays go away. So I again, he popped off the

717
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: film this week, especially to me. I saw him making

718
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: a couple of plays.

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Speaker 1: That's fascinating what you just said. Now there's an eye

720
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: in the sky. There is like an assistant coach analytics

721
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: guy saying hey, yeah it's up.

722
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go. Here comes the deep play action. Right.

723
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: It's things like that.

724
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so yeah, a little little little behind the

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00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: scenes behind the.

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00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: Scenes right with that kind of.

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Speaker 1: Goes inside baseball right there, Jack Doyle, Yeah yeah, and

728
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: the analytics. All right, it's time now as we close

729
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: out the podcast. We do this every week. We call

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Speaker 1: this fun little segment to wrap up every week called

731
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Speaker 1: you Don't Know Jack. All right, let's find out more

732
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: about Jack Doyle as a person, not the former player.

733
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: He was a All Pro, he was a pro bowler

734
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: for the Colts. He was a great Indianapolis representative wearing

735
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: the horseshoe. But let's talk about who you are now,

736
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: my friend. So I want to talk about you growing

737
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: up here in Indianapolis. Who were your favorite athletes growing up?

738
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be football, could be any sport. Who

739
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: were your you know, the guys you really looked up to,

740
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: and who were some of your biggest sports mentors as

741
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: a kid.

742
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: That's a good one, okay.

743
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: So I you know, you can't grow up and at

744
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: the time that me and you grew up, right, Matt,

745
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: like Reggie Miller is the first one that comes to mind. Love,

746
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean the the you know, you know being born.

747
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: I was born in ninety so my memory of being

748
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: five and six and watching you know, pacers Nicks, you know, Pacers,

749
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: Bulls and being a huge Reggie Miller fan was very special.

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Speaker 1: How many games you go to at Marcus Square Arena.

751
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: Mark Square. I remember going to a couple at Marcus

752
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: Square Arena. But then my mom actually worked for the

753
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: Pacers from yeah one to for twenty years or whatever.

754
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 2: So you know, I did the whole Mexico Conseco fieldhouse, right,

755
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: I was. I was a ball boy, did all that

756
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: fun stuff. So, yeah, I got to be a ball boy.

757
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: I remember I was at Reggie's last game. You know,

758
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: cool things like that for being a huge, huge Reggie

759
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 2: Miller fan.

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00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: So when you were a ball boy, did you work

761
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: mostly with the Pacers or the visiting team?

762
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.

763
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: I was a rookie, I was young, so they always

764
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: put me over there with you know, they'd be playing

765
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: the Charlotte Bobcats and I get that game and go

766
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: sit on the Oh so you got the visitors bench

767
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: and I was a gatory JVT.

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00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got Tuesday.

769
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah I'd be you know, I'd sit behind the visitors

770
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: bench and i'd be the gatorade guy.

771
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: Right yeah.

772
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: And I'll never forget this. Gerald Wallace was asking me

773
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: for a Kleenex. It was my first game and I

774
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: had no idea where kleenexes were. He mf me a

775
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: little bit. I mean I was thirteen whatever I was,

776
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't know, give me a cleanex.

777
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: You really need a Kleenex. I guess you know, when

778
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: you're in that tense game. I don't want to call it,

779
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: but when you're here a tints gave, you know, those

780
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: things come up right you're in the moment. But yeah,

781
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: and then one time I gave I gave the wrong

782
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: Some guy wanted just half Gatorade, half water, and I

783
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: gave it to the wrong guy and he's like, what

784
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: is this crap? You know this is supposed to be

785
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: gator you know, fun little memories like that. But I

786
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: had a ton of fun doing it and being.

787
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: At the Gatorade half water.

788
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, some people do that.

789
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: People it was like Gatorade zero.

790
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: Now it basically is right to sugary, right, so they

791
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: want to go half Gatorade, half water, but I have

792
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: to keep it separate. And then people are just coming

793
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: in and grab. It's a tough job. I don't a

794
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: tough job. Let's let's give a shout out to the

795
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: ball kids. Yeah, do a great job. But but yeah,

796
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: and then obviously the Colts man like again, couldn't grow

797
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: up when I grew up and not be a Peyton

798
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: Manning you know, Edrin James, Marvin Hare, Dallas Clark, right,

799
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, huge fan. But the coolest thing is being

800
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: I was such a big Reggie Wayne fan growing up.

801
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: You know, we would go in the backyard and emulate

802
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne running a come back and doing the late

803
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: hands man and it was we'd hit our hit each

804
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: other in the face because we try to pull those

805
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: pull those hands up at the lunny. And then I

806
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: gotta be and then I got to be his teammate,

807
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: Like there was nothing nothing cooler than than than than that,

808
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: and and growing up and and being a huge Colts

809
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: fan and being a huge Reggie Wayne fan, and then

810
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: I got to be his teammate and he was everything

811
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: and more. I remember watching his jugs routine and and

812
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: and trying to emulate it a little bit as I

813
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: went through my career. And uh, you know, speaking of

814
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: my first touchdown, I kind of you know again I

815
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: said it was the Eagles Monday night slid. I kind

816
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: of had to dive for the pylon ball came out

817
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: after I scored and who who who grabbed the ball

818
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: knowing it was my first touchdown was Reggie Wayne. He's

819
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: the one who gave it to you know, Frog or

820
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: Tea or whatever to turn. Yeah, to make sure that

821
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: we uh that that I got to keep that ball in. So, yeah,

822
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: that's that's full circle moment for me and I.

823
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, now Reggie's on staff here and doing

824
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: a great job. How cool is this? Man? Uh So? Yeah,

825
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: that pretty good life for you, tell twelve year old Jack, Yeah,

826
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: that is how good. That's how it's going to go. Man,

827
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have believed you, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Where's that ball at now?

829
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: That ball is at my grandma's house. Grandma Doyle, I

830
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: know she's watching ninety years old, huge Colts fan. I

831
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: gotta give her a shout out. I know she's she's

832
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: probably watching this right now. Can see the see the

833
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: ball at the bottom of her entertainment system. I can

834
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: picture where it is right now at her house.

835
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Speaker 3: Beautiful.

836
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: She's the best, all right, shout out to the Doyle family.

837
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go.

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00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: Good on you for knowing exactly where that ball should go.

839
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I'm sure all the love and the

840
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: support and the sacrifice she made.

841
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: For you, right, absolutely, Yeah. I gave it to my

842
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 2: My grandfather has passed on. He was he was a

843
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: huge supporter obviously, and gave it to my grandma and grandpa.

844
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: So so Grandma Doyle still has it ninety years old.

845
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: She's the best, man. I just saw her this past

846
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: Saturday and I love it. You can't be Grandma Doyle's.

847
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: She's one of a kind.

848
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's all pro right there? Oh yeah, oh

849
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: yeah she is. She's an all star. Wonderful story is

850
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: right there, Jack Doyle on the Jack Doyle Podcast. That's

851
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: going to do do it for this week's episode, a

852
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: full breakdown of what happened in Los Angeles. But the

853
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: Colts are three and one with a chance to come

854
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: home back to back games coming up at Lucas Oil

855
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Stadium week five and the Las Vegas Raiders. We're gonna

856
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: do it next week, breaking everything down and tell you

857
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: the latest with what's going on with the Colts with

858
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: another breakdown from my man Jack Doyle. I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for watching and listening on the Colts

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Speaker 1: podcast channel, and we will talk to you next Tuesday.