1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Joining us now. Randy Moss from NBC Sports serves as 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: an analyst live from del Mar during NBC Sports eleven 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: and a half hours of Breeder Cup covers. They couldn't 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: just cut it off at eleven. They had to make 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: it eleven and a half. It all culminates with the 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: six million dollars Breeders Cup Classic on Saturday night at 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: eight Eastern on NBC and Peacock. First of all, you're 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: in paradise in del Mar, and you get to explain 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: del Mar to those who will never be able to 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: get there and can live vicariously through you. You just 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: described it very succinctly, paradise. I've always told friends of 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: mine that if money were no objects, this is where 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: I would live. But unfortunately, because it is so nice, 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: money is an object. But it's I can't think of 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: a better place to spend spend a week. Give me 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: the best biggest storyline going into the Breeders Cup, probably 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: two of them. The Breeders Cup Class Sick is always 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: the big storyline because it's the it's the grand finale, 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: it's the richest race. It's the one that's you know, 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: it gets all the marquis it's the sexiest race every year, 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: and this year it's it's really a fascinating race with 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: a lot of really good horses, good combination of the 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: fastest older horse in America against a really good group 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: of three year olds. Then there's the Bob Bafford thing, 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: which of course is always um, he's always front and center. 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: But now with all the stuff that's been going on 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 1: with Bob all year long, and he's racing his horses 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: at the breeder stuff and he's got some good ones, 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: and that's the three hundred pound guerrilla in the room 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: as well. Does his horse know that it cheated? The 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: horse is the victim in all this, Yeah, he really is. 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean, people can say what they want about Bob 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: about it the carelessness and and you know, maybe not 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: having all these eyes dotted and his tee's crossed when 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: it comes to the medication overridges and things like that. 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: But the horse had what he had in his system 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: for the Kentucky Derby had no impact at all on 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: the way to horse ran. That's that's a pretty common misconception. 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: Rules were broken. But twenty one pico grams of anything 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: twenty one trillions of a gram, especially of that substance 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: is not going to make any difference in the way 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: the horse ran, and he came back to prove that 43 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: in his most recent race he was just absolutely sensational. 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: So no, the horse is blissfully unaware. Luckily. Why is 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: this event the richest two days in racing? It started 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: back in nineteen eighty four as as a way to 47 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: sort of high up horse racings championships at the end 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: of the year. It always it always was a little 49 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: bit of a hectic kind of way to end the season, 50 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: with big races in New York, big races in California, 51 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: horses all spread out, maybe not necessarily running the best 52 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: against the best. And they figured out a funding mechanism 53 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four where by breeders would would put 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: up the money for these rich races, which is why 55 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: it's called the Breeders Cup, And it was the richest 56 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: weekend of racing in the world at the time. It's 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: been surpassed now by Dubai and Saudi Arabia, but it's 58 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: still got a lot of cache worldwide among among the 59 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: top owners and trainers. Is horse racing still big money 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: around the world? Oh yeah, yeah, especially in the middle East, 61 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: in Japan and in certain you know, major races in 62 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: France and England, there's there's a lot of big money 63 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: at stake. Yeah, why so big so important in the 64 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Middle East? I think because the rulers of those countries, 65 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: like Dubai, for example, Shaik Muhammad, who's been a very 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: controversial figure himself and his entire family, have sort of 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: had the feeling that horse that Arabian race horses were 68 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: sort of the progenitors of the Thoroughbred breed, which is true, 69 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: and they've embraced thoroughbred racing and spent amazing amounts of 70 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: money buying breeding racing horses. He's the leading owner at 71 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: the Breeders Cup historically. So they wanted to show the 72 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: world that they could race horses in Dubai, breed horses 73 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: in Dubai, and that's kind of how the whole Middle 74 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Eastern thing got started. And now Saudi Arabia is joined 75 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: in as well. Do you find yourself randy defending horse 76 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: racing or promoting horse racing more? That's a good question. 77 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: Then lately it's it's been explaining horse racing, you know, 78 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: because when you have the like the Bob Baffort situation, 79 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: and you have the injury situation that we had at 80 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: Santa Anita a few years ago that you may be 81 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: familiar with. It made headlines, It made headlines around the world, 82 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: and you really can't defend it because in a lot 83 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: of different aspects, medication wise and in the horse injury situation. 84 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: Back then, horse racing was really screwed up and needed 85 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: to get its ducks in a row. They've made progress 86 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: in both fronts, significant progress and the horse injury front. 87 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: They're starting to make progress on the medication front, but 88 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: there's still a long way to go. You can defend 89 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: it to a certain extent because people in the sport 90 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: of horse racing by and large, absolutely love these animals. 91 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 1: That coddle these animals. They're treated amazingly well. The dirty 92 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: little secret horse racing. The horses are treated better than 93 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: the people who take care of the horses. So in 94 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: a fense, you defend it, but there's some aspects of 95 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: it that are occasionally indefensible. You bet on horses, right, 96 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: oh yeah, do you bet on the horse, the joy 97 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: or the trainer. The horse occasionally influenced by the trainer, 98 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: seldom influenced by the jockey. Really The difference dan between 99 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: jockey A and jockey B when you get to these Breeders' 100 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: Cup races and you get to the Triple Crown races 101 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: is negligible. They're they're all so good at this level 102 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: that the difference between Joel Rosario and Javier Castellano and 103 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: John Velasquez is so minute that you're wasting your time 104 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: trying to parse the difference between one jockey or another. 105 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 1: Just assume that you're going to get a good ride 106 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: and bet on the horse. Betting on a favorite seems boring, right, 107 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: it is, Yeah, it is boring. Can you make any 108 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: money betting on a favorite? Well, it depends on your 109 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: definition your threshold of making money, right. I mean, you know, 110 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: you can bet on a two to one favorite and 111 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's not sexy, but it's a hell 112 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: of a lot more than the bank pays if you 113 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: get it right. The problem is that favorites only win 114 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: about one third of the time, so if you're consistently 115 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: betting on the favorites, then in the long run, you're 116 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: gonna lose money. So the most entertaining way if you 117 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: want to bet on a favorite is to hook him 118 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: up with other horses in all of these so called 119 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: exotic bets now that are the most popular bets in 120 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: thirdbred racing and in the Breeders Cup. There's a million 121 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: of them, and you play exactas you can. You can 122 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: bet the favorite if you think he's gonna win, with 123 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: a long shot to finish second. You can bet on 124 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: the trifecta, the first three finishers, the super perfecta, the 125 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: first four finishers, and you can get a favorite that wins, 126 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: and then a payoffs that's really worthwhile. We have bad 127 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: beats in football the time. Have you ever liked you 128 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: have a bad beat in horse racing? Oh yeah, are 129 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: you kidding? Oh? Bad beats are the rule or in 130 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: the exception in horse racing, I've been I've been photoed 131 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: out of six figures. Oh oh, possible pay day. Oh yeah, yeah, 132 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: there's there's there's a bet called the pick six in 133 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: horse racing. That used to be you used to be 134 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: a lot more popular than it is now. You picked 135 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: the winners of six consecutive racist and you can invest 136 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: a lot of money. And I had partners and we 137 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: would all go in and this is back in the day, 138 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: this is twenty years ago. But you know we we 139 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: we've gotten to the last race. A couple of times 140 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: hit the first five, two, three hundred thousand dollars at 141 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: stake and then you lose a photo. You just you 142 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: just grin and bear it and uh and move on 143 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: to the next opportunity, right, good luck this weekend. Randy, Hey, 144 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: damn sure, thank you, dad. He's Randy Moss from NBC Sports. 145 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: He'll be an analyst from del Mar Live NBC Sports 146 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: eleven and a half hours of Breeder Cup coverage this weekend. 147 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: All culminates with the six million dollars Breeders Cup Classic 148 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: on Saturday night at eight Eastern on NBC and Peacock