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Speaker 4: I twenty two female, am at my wits end with

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Speaker 4: this very ft up situation with my fellow student, Danielle.

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Speaker 4: Twenty two female Danielle and I are in college. We're

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Speaker 4: both working on our bachelor's degree. We started out as friends,

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Speaker 4: but our relationship got a bit weird. She was often

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Speaker 4: acting really entitled and like I had to cater to

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Speaker 4: her every need. She would also scream at me often,

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Speaker 4: especially when we were out partying. By the way, this

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Speaker 4: Okay storytime subritt it. So because of that, I decided

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Speaker 4: to not spend any more time with her around last Christmas. However,

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Speaker 4: in the two years I was friends with her, she

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Speaker 4: naturally learned a lot about me. Some of those things

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Speaker 4: could definitely get me into legal trouble. I haven't talked

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Speaker 4: to Danielle in a few months, but I heard that

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Speaker 4: she was having trouble keeping up with her courses. Some

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, she showed up at my place wasted and

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Speaker 4: told me that she expects me to write her thesis.

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Speaker 4: It's a fifty page essay that we have until lie

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Speaker 4: to hand in and it will be crucial to finishing

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Speaker 4: our degree or else. She'll tell everyone, including the police,

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Speaker 4: about this.

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Speaker 5: Stuff I did. And yeah, she's got proof.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a stupid joke or that she

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Speaker 4: was just super wasted, until I came home yesterday and

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Speaker 4: found a note from her saying the exact same thing,

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Speaker 4: and a USB stick with her working title and some

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Speaker 4: ebooks I should include in my writing. But what do

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Speaker 4: I do here? Write the dang thing for don't and

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Speaker 4: risk her going to the police. I can't really risk that,

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Speaker 4: though she could get me into serious trouble. I have

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Speaker 4: spoken to one friend of mine and he told me

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Speaker 4: to write it, but write it badly. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if that's such a good idea. Also, I still have

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Speaker 4: to finish finish my own thesis. I have no idea

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Speaker 4: if I will even be able to write hers in time. Edit.

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Speaker 4: I was hoping I didn't have to say what I did,

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Speaker 4: but here it goes. I had a short fling with

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Speaker 4: one of the assistant professors. He didn't know I was

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Speaker 4: a student there, though it was a comp dellocated situation. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: I got my hands on some exam sheets and sent

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Speaker 4: them to several friends, including Danielle. So her proof is

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Speaker 4: that email with the attachment. It's pretty solid proof. None

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Speaker 4: of that is going to get you into legal trouble.

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Speaker 4: You just might get suspended.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I can't go to school for a semester.

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Speaker 5: That's only going to get you in trouble with the school,

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Speaker 3: I thought she was looking at three to five years.

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Speaker 5: Dude, you're looking at no jail time.

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Speaker 3: Oh don't write that.

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Speaker 5: These please are.

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Speaker 4: Going to say, Okay, I sent it for my spam

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Speaker 4: email address that I normally don't use, which doesn't have

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Speaker 4: my name in it. But I'm sure they could backtrack

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Speaker 4: it with IP address.

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Speaker 5: And so on.

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Speaker 4: There's no way I will come clean to the university,

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Speaker 4: that in the note I got from her, she's explicitly

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Speaker 5: To show it to anyone.

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Speaker 3: Time Out, Time Out.

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Speaker 5: There is an update.

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Speaker 3: This is all in the cloud. This is all technical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, easy, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, So what you do is you find someone

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Speaker 3: double accuse her. Pull the uh what's the bad teacher thing?

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Speaker 3: That's a great movie. Yeah, but yeah, dude, yeah, just

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Speaker 3: find a nerdy friend. You're good.

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Speaker 4: She can't accuse you without her getting in trouble. She

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Speaker 4: goes to the Sorry, okay, she goes to the police.

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Speaker 5: The police don't care. She goes to the.

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Speaker 4: School and says, yeah, she sent me the answers. They say, you,

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Speaker 5: Why didn't you tell us when she sent those to you?

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Speaker 4: So you were cheating? She literally, you can't. You can't

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Speaker 4: lose update. First off, I wanted to clarify something because

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Speaker 4: there seems to be a misunderstanding regarding my edit in

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Speaker 4: the op. The exam sheets I sent to my friends

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Speaker 4: use them, so there was no cheating involved or something.

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Speaker 4: Here's what happened, and I'm aware that this makes me

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Speaker 4: look super stupid. I then a guy, let's call him Tom,

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Speaker 4: as a whole. He obviously thought I worked full time

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Speaker 4: more exciting than being a professor at twenty eight, or

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Speaker 4: maybe he's both. I know it might sound unbelievable at

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Speaker 4: me being a student never came up, but we both

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Speaker 4: had traveled a bit and mainly talked about that. After

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Speaker 4: I looked around a bit in his apartment and there

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Speaker 4: with the answer key, and then some exams that were

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Speaker 4: already taken by students, so he was correcting those tests.

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Speaker 4: I texted a friend of mine, not Danielle, Oh crap,

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Speaker 4: I think he's a professor. Friend text back, no way,

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Speaker 4: he's too young, proof she had seen pictures of him.

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Speaker 4: I then took a pick of the answer sheet and

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Speaker 4: sent an email to four of my friends, including Danielle,

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Speaker 4: writing something really do she along the lines of this

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Speaker 4: I realize now that I was actually super lucky because

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Speaker 4: I lost my iPhone that week and had to use

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Speaker 4: an old phone of mine without WhatsApp, where the email

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Speaker 4: that's why I didn't just send the pic via app,

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Speaker 4: but I had to send it over email with my

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Speaker 4: old spam email address. I hadn't use that address in

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Speaker 4: so we never contacted each other again. I later found

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Speaker 4: him on the website's homepage. He is indeed a professor,

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Speaker 4: but for a completely different course, like if I would

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Speaker 5: I mean, he wasn't your teacher. He was never your teacher.

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Speaker 3: But that's why I'm looking for the age, because you know,

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Speaker 5: Twenty sineteen year old not great.

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Speaker 3: But she's getting her thesis. She's probably twenty two.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, she's doing her thesis. She's like at

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Speaker 4: least twenty one. Yep, So the thing Danielle has on

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Speaker 4: me is actually not cheating on a test, but sleeping

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Speaker 4: even though completely unrelated to my courses, as proof of

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Speaker 4: I think of it, though, she doesn't really have evidence

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Speaker 4: on that. The picture I took only shows the piece

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Speaker 4: of paper on a wooden desk. I could have found

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Speaker 4: it on campus or something. She also knows of smoking

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Speaker 4: Devil's lettuce, but as many of you have pointed out,

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Speaker 4: that's not something the police would be interested in anyway.

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Speaker 4: I read through all your comments. Some of you said

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Speaker 4: that she would incriminate herself by outing me because.

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Speaker 5: She cheated on an exam.

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Speaker 4: Well, that would be the case, but everyone seems to

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Speaker 4: agree that the IP address tracking doesn't work the way

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Speaker 4: I imagined, So she doesn't really have anything on me,

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Speaker 3: So twenty two called it okay? Yeah, totalates.

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Speaker 4: I still don't really want to go to the police,

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Speaker 4: especially because of Tom, because he's a genuinely nice guy.

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Speaker 4: I actually thought about contacting him again after I finished

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Speaker 4: action would be to write Danielle something like this, Hello, Danielle. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: I have no idea what you're talking about. I have

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Speaker 4: never sent out any exam answers, but what you are

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Speaker 4: doing sounds a lot like blackmail, which is illegal to

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Speaker 4: my knowledge. For the sake of our old friendship, I

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Speaker 4: will not directly go to the police for now, as

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Speaker 4: I'm suspecting you didn't really mean what you said in

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Speaker 4: your note. I heard that tutor is great at helping

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Speaker 4: students get started with her thesis, and I'm sure.

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Speaker 5: He can help you. What do you think or just ignore?

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Speaker 5: I honestly love that.

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Speaker 3: No I send that over that. I think she's gonna

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Speaker 3: hold that over your head. You're gonna keep getting those

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Speaker 3: little yeah post it notes wherever you go, Nip it

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Speaker 5: Nip in the bud.

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Speaker 4: Say, I have no idea what you're talking about. I

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Speaker 4: also talk to the other three girls involved, and they

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Speaker 4: all deleted the email, and as they are not in

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Speaker 4: contact with Danielle, either. I don't think I need to

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Speaker 4: worry about that. Edit Okay, it seems like I actually

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Speaker 4: did nothing wrong, or at least nothing illegal. I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna reply to Danielle, and I'm heading over to a

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Speaker 4: professor in an hour to tell him about the blackmail,

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Speaker 4: then maybe take it to the Dean. Still unsure if

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Speaker 4: I should give Tom a heads up, but I think

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna leave him out of this. Also, I

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Speaker 4: As long as the professor doesn't have to grade you,

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Speaker 3: And you shouldn't get in trouble just because you got

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Speaker 5: Dude. I don't understand. I don't understand cheating on papers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good for you. Yeah, thank you. Great integrity.

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Speaker 5: Are you taking a class?

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Speaker 3: Okay? This is a scenario in my head, right, scenario,

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Speaker 5: I don't understand this hypothetical.

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Speaker 4: I then went to Tom's office. I was super nervous

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Speaker 3: My friend revealed a secret in front of my fiance.

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Speaker 3: I was humiliated.

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Speaker 3: I will do my best to keep this to as

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Speaker 3: I've been in a few relationships where it was obvious

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Speaker 3: Oh Man. We met up for an early dinner at

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Speaker 3: He would gently touch my hand from time to time

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Speaker 1: Very possible.

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Speaker 3: Eventually, Kyle met my three best friends and they all

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Speaker 3: Since Kyle has came into my life, he has shown

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Speaker 3: She absolutely had too much to drink and did it

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Speaker 3: Like when Jeff made you wear a pick mask and

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Speaker 6: Dude, Oh if I'm ope, like I'm about to get destardly?

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Speaker 1: What the best thing to do?

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Speaker 3: Like, Ah, dude, this is the I'm voting this person

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Speaker 6: Yeah, get Bet. You gotta get Bet out of here.

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Speaker 6: Beth is completely out of your life now, dude.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you know what? Why are we bringing her down

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Speaker 3: This is insanity. Cale absolutely exploded on her and yelled

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Speaker 3: to overcome him came flooding back. He heugged me and

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00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 3: kissed me at the top of my head. He told

442
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 3: me what I did before him doesn't bother him. It

443
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 3: was Beth's humiliation that pissed him off. He told me

444
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 3: that was up to me if I remain friends with her,

445
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: but he doesn't want to be a round bath anymore.

446
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 3: He cleaned up the patio and held me as I

447
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 3: fell asleep crying. Today A texted Beth that we needed

448
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 3: to talk. We met up for brunch and she was

449
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 3: very embarrassed about her behavior, but I told her I

450
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 3: don't think I can be her friend anymore. She started

451
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 3: to blame Kyle for our friendship ending and said he

452
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: was effed in the head for making you look at

453
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: his passed away wife and kid. Don't throw away our

454
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: friendship for him, dude. You know what the funny thing

455
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 3: was like, you know what Kyle did? You know what

456
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: Kyle did in all this? Who's this? He me your hand?

457
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: Who's just doing this? Just loving, just loving on opete.

458
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 3: You know what Bet did?

459
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: No, she got, she got she got a hot, hot skillet.

460
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 3: That's what Beth did. And and who's fault was that

461
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: forgetting that mark on her hand?

462
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 5: Mine?

463
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: Kyle's. It was Kyle's fault, that's what Beth said. That's

464
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: Kyle's fault that you have that mark on your hand.

465
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, she's how do people think? How do

466
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 3: people get along in life? And thank this way?

467
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 6: I really I think it's because of the the social politics.

468
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 3: Dude.

469
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 6: She's like she can't get a boyfriend because like she

470
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 6: saying all this stuff about like, oh well he thinks

471
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 6: you're like like he's not attracted to you, or he's

472
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 6: like he doesn't like how like how big you are.

473
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: It's like she's just.

474
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 6: Projecting these thoughts that she has probably in her head

475
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 6: where it's like why does she have a boyfriend? She

476
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 6: looks worse than me, why does she have a boyfriend?

477
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 6: She's heavier than me.

478
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: Like what whatever?

479
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 6: Like, so she just can't tolerate it because now she's

480
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 6: she's the yeah, the quote unquote loser in the front room,

481
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 6: which if you're ever thinking of that, it's like, reassess yourself.

482
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure for suns.

483
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 6: Can all get along? Why are we ranking ourselves? I

484
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 6: got up, paid for my food. I'm left gwynin Stace

485
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 6: don't want to be in the middle, but agree that

486
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 6: Beth was in the wrong and that they are happy

487
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 6: that I found the love of my life and hope

488
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 6: one day things were returned back to normal. I told

489
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 6: them I won't be upset if they hang up with Beth,

490
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 6: but I don't want to be included if she is

491
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 6: with them, and they're fine with that. Beth was my

492
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 6: first friend and someone always looked up to. She held

493
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 6: me as I cried when my first boyfriend left me

494
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 6: a week after I lost my V card to him

495
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 6: because he was dared to date me and to sleep

496
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 6: with me. Let's get down to the real deal here.

497
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 6: Now I'm wavering about wanting to give her another chance.

498
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 6: We have so much history and amazing memories Kyle said

499
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 6: he would support me either way, but he was a

500
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 6: hard no on being around Beth outside of her wedding

501
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 6: if I wanted her there. I'm so torn on what

502
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 6: to do.

503
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 3: Because she was wasted but still said those words and

504
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: they cut me to the core. Should I forgive her

505
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: or cut her out of my life? Comment one, This

506
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: is one of the most crappiest things I've ever read.

507
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: Someone who dared call themselves your friend. She's bitter, insecure,

508
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: and a jealous person. Yes, jealous. Only jealousy can make

509
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: someone do that many things to put someone down. I'm

510
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 3: very sorry for your previous experience with ex boyfriend. If

511
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 3: someone did that to my friend, I'd be covering his

512
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: house and tolet paper and put his phone number on notice.

513
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: Watch as a judge for Best Chewbacca Voice competition. That's

514
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 3: what friends are for, and they always support you and

515
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: protect you. I'm glad she finally showed you who she is.

516
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: I bet dollars to donuts. She played a significant part

517
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: in keeping you as insecure as possible and fed you

518
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: poisoning thoughts about your own worth. Let the trash remove

519
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 3: itself from your life. We got an update?

520
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 6: Oh boy, Yeah, I agree with all that is the time.

521
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: It's it's time that that person is.

522
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 5: Not your friend.

523
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, not your friend. I just got a text from

524
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 3: Gwen who told me that she and Mike have cut

525
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 3: Beth out of their lives. Mike was furious at Beth

526
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: and got pissed a Gwynn for one in Keeper as

527
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: a friend. Guenn apologize for even considering Beth as a friend.

528
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 3: So Beth has gone.

529
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 6: Beth has been exiled from the entire friend group Absolute cinema.

530
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: Goodbye Beth.

531
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: Wow, dude, Well, like they said, the trash takes itself out.

532
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 6: Ten out of ten, five out of five. My friend

533
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 6: cheated on her husband in front of me.

534
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: Some people don't like to keep things to themselves.

535
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 6: So I twenty three female, have a friend Alice, twenty

536
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 6: six female, and then we met about three years ago

537
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 6: and became really close even though we were like so different.

538
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 6: By the way, this comes from user and if you

539
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 6: want to submit your own stories, go to the r

540
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 6: Size show. Okay, storytime subred it.

541
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Speaker 5: So.

542
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 6: A few months ago, at around twelve pm, Alice called

543
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 6: me while wasted and asked me if I could pick

544
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 6: her up so she could come over to my house

545
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 6: and stay here for the day. I asked her if

546
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 6: she was wasted, which she said no. I could clearly

547
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 6: tell that she was, so I asked again, to which

548
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 6: she said she was a little. I asked her if

549
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 6: everything was okay, and she said she just wanted to

550
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 6: be at my house. I went to pick her up

551
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 6: and she got in the car with a bottle of

552
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 6: wine in her bag and clearly wasted.

553
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: She asked if I could stop.

554
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 6: Somewhere to buy a little bit of the Devil's lettuce

555
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 6: and I said sure. We got to the store and

556
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 6: she bought two. She bought she and she got her materials.

557
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 6: She purchased her materials. I texted her husband saying that

558
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 6: I was with her and I was going to take

559
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 6: care of her. He thanked me and asked to keep

560
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 6: him updated because we really didn't know why she was mad.

561
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 6: When we got to my house, my cousin, twenty four male,

562
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 6: who lives with me, was in the kitchen, and Alice

563
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 6: was super happy to see him, which is normal considering

564
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 6: she's close to my family and gets along with everyone.

565
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 6: We went to my room and she insisted that my

566
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 6: cousin hang out with us again, not out of the ordinary.

567
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 6: I asked her what was wrong, and she went on

568
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 6: saying how mean or her husband is and that she

569
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 6: hasn't had her periods that she was thirteen, because she's

570
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 6: always had period shots for cramp's purposes. But now that

571
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 6: she was planning on switching to an IUD, she had

572
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 6: to wait to get her period. When she did, he

573
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 6: wouldn't understand.

574
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: Her and her moodiness.

575
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 3: Ooh okay.

576
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 6: I told her that PMS, periods and all those feelings

577
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 6: on her were just as new to him as they

578
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 6: were to her, and she should communicate those feelings so

579
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 6: he would know how to act. I say that from

580
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 6: knowing how much he loves, cares and respects her.

581
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair.

582
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 6: This person has an insight into their relationship. OPI has

583
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 6: an insight yep into Alice's husband's state of mind and.

584
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: Is giving Alice some pointers.

585
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah uh okay. She decided to call him.

586
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 6: She apologized for leaving the house instead of talking and

587
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 6: said she just wanted to stay at my house, but

588
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 6: that she loves him.

589
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: About twenty minutes later, she wanted.

590
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 6: To shchmirk and you you know I would get into

591
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 6: her supplies, so I said. She could do so if

592
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 6: she wanted, but I'm not letting her take the extra

593
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 6: silly googas while while also consuming the drink, because that's

594
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 6: just a way to a bad trip. She agreed that

595
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 6: I could hide the chocolate bar and would give it

596
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 6: to her when she was sober. Alice asked if we

597
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 6: could go to a trail near my house to do

598
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 6: a little and I said I don't feel like it,

599
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 6: but I would join them anyway. When we got back

600
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 6: to the house, I remembered we had plans with another friend,

601
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 6: Emmett twenty eight male, to go to Subway because.

602
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: We hadn't hung out in a while and we're both broke.

603
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 6: Lol. So I called him and explained what happened and

604
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 6: asked him if he was okay with us going to

605
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 6: pick up the food and eating at my house. He

606
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 6: said that was cool and came over. From the moment

607
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 6: he arrived, Alice was being rude. She kept drinking, and

608
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 6: the more wasted, the more rude to me and Emmett

609
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 6: she got, and the more.

610
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: Giggly and whispery with my cousin she got.

611
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 6: But I just thought they were both just, you know,

612
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 6: a little head in the clouds.

613
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: And vibe and how whatever.

614
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 6: Emma and I just decided to go pick up the

615
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 6: sandwiches by ourselves since they were in their whole other vibe.

616
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 6: We got the sandwiches, went back to the house and

617
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 6: decided to watch Adventure Time while eating them. Emma and

618
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 6: I were talking most of the time, and I was

619
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 6: facing the TV slash Emmett while Alice and my cousin

620
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 6: were next to me but not really in my direct

621
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 6: line of sight. Alice kept bringing up politics, sometimes put

622
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 6: a great combo because she knows she and Emmett have

623
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 6: different views. About an hour later, Emmett had to go,

624
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 6: and I walked him to the door and apologized for

625
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 6: Alice's behavior. When I was on my way back to

626
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 6: my room, my cousin stops me and says, Alice kissed him.

627
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: Oh what kind of kiss though?

628
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: Kiss on cheek, hand, kiss down under?

629
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: Whoa now WHA?

630
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say kiss.

631
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 6: I was like, WTF, cuz he said how. When Emma

632
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 6: and I left to get the food, she asked him

633
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 6: if he wanted to go upstairs to do his room.

634
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 6: He said he didn't know what to do it first,

635
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 6: and when I got to my room, Alice was passed

636
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 6: out on my bed, even though I had asked her

637
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 6: to shower, because she hadn't showered after the gym and

638
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 6: smelled like the devil's lettuce as well. The next day,

639
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 6: when she woke up, she showered and told me that

640
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 6: her husband wouldn't be picking her up soon. So I

641
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 6: sat down and was like, I have to talk to you.

642
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 6: I asked her if she remembered anything weird from last night.

643
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 6: Her face went red and weird and she said, hmmm, no,

644
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 6: she didn't. So I told her what happened, and she

645
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 6: apologized and said she didn't remember, which obviously she did,

646
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 6: and asked me if we could pretend it never happened.

647
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 6: I got shocked and said sure, if you think that's

648
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 6: what's best. She said she was sure and asked if

649
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 6: I could ask my cousin to do the same, and

650
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 6: said she would apologize later. She left, and that was

651
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 6: what I was shocked by her reaction and I didn't

652
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 6: know what to do. Later I talked to my cousin

653
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 6: again and he told me to ask Emmett if he

654
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 6: saw anything. When I texted Emmitt and asked him about it,

655
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 6: he said he didn't know if he should say something,

656
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 6: and how I didn't notice her being too touchy and

657
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 6: weird to my cousin, and that he seemed uncomfortable, and

658
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 6: that yes, he did see her kissing him again.

659
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do.

660
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 6: A few days later of no talking to Alice, she

661
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 6: called me and asked to talk.

662
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: Hmm.

663
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 6: She apologized again and again for being rude to me

664
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 6: and Emmett while wasted, and for what happened. I told

665
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 6: her that I think she should tell her husband, and

666
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 6: she said, not gonna happen, and kept saying that I'm

667
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 6: young and don't understand these things. Go are you literally

668
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 6: even though I'm married gor.

669
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: You're literally three years older than her and she has

670
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: a healthy marriage. Sounds like Tate also ultimatum, We're we're

671
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: hitting her with a hard I'm gonna tell him, or

672
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna tell him, and I'm gonna be telling him

673
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: in two days from now, I and the cousin. I'd

674
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: also be having to talk with cousin cousin. Don't you

675
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: know you aren't supposed to be doing this with married

676
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: one cousin. Cousin cousin keep arms linked away from Mary warning.

677
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 6: She then went on to tell me that she was

678
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 6: scared because this had already happened with a girlfriend of

679
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 6: hers and that her husband was really mad, but they

680
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 6: decided to move forward as long as she kept healthy

681
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 6: drinking habits. I asked her if she thought he would

682
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 6: hurt her, and she said no, but she was scared

683
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 6: of losing him. Yeah, because you were down talking him

684
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 6: and you made out with some other guy. I explained

685
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 6: that although I understand it was a mistake, I'm one

686
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 6: hundred percent against cheating and lying, and it's just not

687
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 6: something I would do to my husband, so I couldn't

688
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 6: see myself being friends with someone that would do that.

689
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: She kept apologizing and asked me to.

690
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 6: Think about us being friends again, and that she didn't

691
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 6: want to lose our friendship. So I said, I had

692
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 6: a lot on my mind with work and getting my certification,

693
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 6: so I was going to focus on my career and

694
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 6: we could talk when things were less overwhelming. Fast forward

695
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 6: to today, about four months later. She just called me

696
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 6: a few minutes ago, saying how much she misses me

697
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 6: and my kiddies and she hoped we can hang out

698
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 6: soon and apologized again for everything. I said it was okay,

699
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 6: and I was just still focused on work and getting

700
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 6: my certification, which I still am.

701
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: Should be getting it in about a month. Is house

702
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: plotting again? She lives Opie lives with her cousin. I

703
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: feel a plot. Do you really miss the kittens? Do

704
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: you really miss hanging out? Or do you really miss

705
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: not cousin? And how's your home life? Is your home

706
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: life going good? That's what I asked her. How are

707
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: you an IMMA doing? That'd be my first question. Did

708
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: you ever tell EMMT? Do you ever tell immit? And

709
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: how are you an m going right? Now?

710
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: It's a trap, dude, It's a trap. I still don't

711
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: know what to do.

712
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 6: I hate hurting people's feelings, but I just can't see

713
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 6: her in the same way now. Every time I listen

714
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 6: to her voice or see her, all I can think

715
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 6: is her kind, loving husband not knowing what happened in

716
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 6: the possibility of continuing behavior. I also can't forgive her

717
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 6: for hurting my cousin like she did. She knew about

718
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 6: his past, and even though she says she didn't remember,

719
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 6: I just can't believe her. Do I just cut her

720
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 6: off completely? Do I insist on her telling her husband?

721
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 6: Do I believe her she doesn't remember? And try to

722
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 6: keep being friends with her. Do I tell her husband myself?

723
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 6: But I'm disappointed in OP.

724
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 3: I think, OPI you need to tell tell Alice right now,

725
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: tell Alice's hus in it. Tell that everything is awesome, man,

726
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: right now, what's going on?

727
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, husband needs to know. And I think she's definitely lying.

728
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: She's not.

729
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 6: She she can she definitely can remember. She can't because

730
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 6: she was she brought up that thing about how she

731
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 6: had a friend where this happened and they ended up

732
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 6: staying together. But like only if it was like promised

733
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 6: that she like improved her drinking habits or whatever. So

734
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 6: she's thinking, Oh, as long as I say that I

735
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 6: don't remember anything that I did, I can get away

736
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 6: with it. And I can like I can still get

737
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 6: CoA stpob. I was wasted, I was tired. I remember

738
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 6: it was like I like, why dud ah, it's not

739
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 6: gonna work.

740
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work.

741
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: It no go, everything is awesome. Somewhere else comments here

742
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: Commander one says, you're not.

743
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: I don't reacting.

744
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 6: Do not believe her that she doesn't remember. Uh, please

745
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 6: make sure your cousin is okay. That is very horrible

746
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 6: for him and the friendship with her because of what

747
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 6: she did. Ask your cousin if he wants you to

748
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 6: tell the husband, please be guided by your cousin, as

749
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 6: who knows what Alice might tell him to twist the

750
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 6: story if she feels threatened. The last thing your cousin

751
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 6: needs is drama with your husband about this. And that

752
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 6: is the end of that story.

753
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: Sam. Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. But

754
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: here's three of it's bads from our sponsors.

755
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: A friend uninvited me from a trip, and my other

756
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: friends didn't defend me.

757
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: Hey, those don't sound like your friends.

758
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: So I have a friend group from college and we

759
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: all still hang out with these chows as every group

760
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: does every few months. My friend, let's call her Ava,

761
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: and I hang out almost every weekend. We are very close.

762
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 3: She's also good friends with another group in our friend group,

763
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: let's call her Beck. Gu By the way, this comes

764
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: from Vizvak, and if you want to spen to your

765
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: own stories, go to the our side showcase story. So

766
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: I'm so reading. So oh, Becca and I are not

767
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 3: super close, but I always thought we were friendly together.

768
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: I know in girl groups it's normal not to be

769
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: super close with everyone, and that's okay. I always try

770
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: to be your friend and true to the same as

771
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: I do the other girls. A few months ago, our

772
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: group was at a picnic discussing a group trip. Becca

773
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: said her family had a cabin upstate and we should

774
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: all go there for a weekend. Everyone agreed and we

775
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: all set the date for this past weekend. Everything was great, normal.

776
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: These past few weeks, we're all texting in the group

777
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: chat about going on this trip and sharing what we

778
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: were gonna pack and what movies we're gonna watch. The

779
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: night before we were supposed to leave, Becca sends me

780
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 3: a text message essentially saying, Hi, I feel like we're

781
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: not close friends. I think you don't like me, and

782
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: that's okay. I don't want us to be fake with

783
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: each other, so especially that you don't join us this weekend.

784
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: I'm shocked. However, I try to be understanding and tell

785
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: her I do like you and enjoy our hangouts. It's

786
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: just we're not super close, like faked around you. I

787
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: totally understand, and the group could go without me. I

788
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: did anything to hurt you, I'm sorry and I'm open

789
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: to talking about it. Just literally hurt me and I

790
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: was in shock, trying to figure out what happened, what

791
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: I did wrong. I texted my best friend Eva, who

792
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: was attending the girls strip, to let her know I

793
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 3: was unifided. Her first reaction was, Oh, well, you girls

794
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: aren't close anyway, so it's whatever.

795
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a second group chat that you're not in.

796
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: They're all in it and you're not.

797
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: There's not such thing as a second group chat.

798
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: In this story, one hundred percent.

799
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 6: If that's how your friend just responded. Oh well, I mean,

800
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 6: I guess you guys aren't really really No one's really

801
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 6: friends anyway, so yeah, I guess it makes sense. There's

802
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 6: another group chat where everyone is like, yeah, we don't

803
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 6: want her to go. I'm sorry, I'm sorry that hurts

804
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 6: a lot, but that sounds like what that is.

805
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: She then said, I hope you don't expect me to

806
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: get in the middle of this because I don't think

807
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: it's my place and what affect my mental health. I,

808
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: of course, trying to be accommodating set everything is okay

809
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: and it's okay for her not to get involved. After

810
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: a day of crying about this and feeling really awful,

811
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: I realized that it was a really crappy thing that

812
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: Becca did to me, and I also realized that my

813
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: best friend at Ava was not super supportive of me.

814
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: I don't expect my best friend to not go on

815
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: the trip, but I expect her to acknowledge that Becca

816
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: did was really mean and awful. I just wanted her

817
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: to support and I was hoping that never leave. The

818
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: topic of me comes up during the girls trip, and

819
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: she would set up for me and said, Hey, it's

820
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: okay for you guys not to be friends, but it's

821
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: not okay to exclude someone from a group event at

822
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: the very last minute. That felt very corporate the way

823
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: she said.

824
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: That, but like it's it's true.

825
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 6: I feel like I would take almost a corporate approach

826
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 6: to this, Yeah, because it is very like, hey, guys,

827
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 6: you couldn't I mean, like it's truly you could have

828
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 6: just like told me not to go. I don't know,

829
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 6: like not the day before, yeah, maybe a week week before,

830
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 6: or just if you don't want to be my friend,

831
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 6: let's just like don't pretend to be my friend, because

832
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 6: that's like, why are you manipulating me?

833
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why this is weird. I let even know that

834
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: her lack of support was really hurtful to me, and

835
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: if she was in my position, I would acknowledge that

836
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: our mutual friend did something really awful. I would feel

837
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: really bad going on the strip knowing Ava is at

838
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: home really hurt. However, she thinks that this conflict is

839
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: solely between Becca and I and that she shouldn't get involved.

840
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: She said she has an independent friendship with Becca and

841
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: that getting involved would make things worse. Do you think

842
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: it's wrong, slash too much of me to expect my

843
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: best friend to stand up for me when our mutual

844
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 3: friend uninvited me last minute to a group event. I'm

845
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: not asking her to pick a side. However, feels like

846
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: she is with Becca, essentially bullying me. It's okay that

847
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: she wants to be friends with Becca. That's totally acceptable. However,

848
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: I do think you should have the courage to stand

849
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: up to a friend who's bullying your other friend. Really

850
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: appreciate your insights. Thank you. We got an update and

851
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: an edit. I don't know they're not friends. Yeah, they're

852
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: not your friends.

853
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 6: There is something true to that that there can be

854
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 6: like people within a group that like, not everyone likes

855
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 6: everyone you know to the same degree. But also it's

856
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 6: like if it was your best friend and she's in

857
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 6: a circle of people that are like just slamming on you,

858
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 6: she would be like, hey, let's stop that.

859
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: You know.

860
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: Yep, got an edit. Thank you all for your comments.

861
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: I agree in principal friends should stick off for each other,

862
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: but that's not always the reality. I'm okay with not

863
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: being friends with this group. Friends change a lot in

864
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: your twenties. I guess some stay, some go. It is

865
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 3: what it is, and you don't mind a bit. I

866
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: spoke to my best friend Ava, and she's pretty set

867
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: that she should get in the way and that it's

868
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: not her place to say anything. She also is now

869
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: saying that she doesn't think I should be upset, considering

870
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 3: Becka and I were never close friends and there were

871
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: times I criticized Becka behind her back, so I should

872
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: be upset. Maybe she's right I shouldn't speak ill about someone,

873
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: but I'm not perfect, and I think there's a difference

874
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: between a private criticism and a direct offense that changes

875
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: your perspective. Let me know. Edit two. I texted Becca

876
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: and let her know that her actions were mean spirited

877
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 3: and unkind, and I'm not okay being friends. I left

878
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 3: our group chat. I spoke to Ava and we agreed

879
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 3: to take some time apart and speak in person about

880
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: this next week at a three high all. Here is

881
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 3: the final update. Okay, I spoke to Ava on the phone,

882
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: and it seems like we just don't see eye to

883
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 3: eye on this case. She said. She acknowledges I'm hurt,

884
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: but ultimately it was Becka's choice. I think this argument

885
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: is going in circle, so I decided to put the

886
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 3: issue to rest. I think I'm going valid in my ask.

887
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: Ava is just not the person to support me in

888
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: that way that I wish. Ave and I are still friends.

889
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: I think I'm willing to let this just be an

890
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: isolated a moment where we didn't align, and that's okay.

891
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: I have other friends who were willing to stand up

892
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: for me, and I have now have had a new

893
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: new found appreciation for them. AV and I will continue

894
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: to be friends, but I will keep this in mind

895
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: for the future. And 'LP lied to us. That wasn't

896
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 3: the last update.

897
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: There's another one.

898
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 6: We got more subverting expectations. That's how you get a

899
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 6: good reaction out of your audience.

900
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: Right there.

901
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: Update, my best friend a Loo calleds me. It's a

902
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: chat a week after the whole uninvited situation happened. We

903
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: talked like normal, and then she tells me that she

904
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 3: wanted to tell me the truth about what happened and

905
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: why I was uninvited. Here's what she tells me. Basically,

906
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: a week and before we were supposed to go to

907
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: the cabin for a girls trip, we all went out

908
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: for drinks at the bar. There was our entire girl

909
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: group and a few other mutual friends. Basically, Becca was

910
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: trying to set up Ava with one of the guys

911
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: at that event, and turns out all the girls in

912
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: the group were upset with me because they thought I

913
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: was flirting with him, knowing they were trying to set

914
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: him up with Ava. Oh, this is news to me

915
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: because I have given this man zero thought. This is

916
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 3: all out of left field. I just started laughing when

917
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 3: Ava told me about this, because what the hef Wow,

918
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: so be so so. Beca was trying to be cupid

919
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: and it was a little hurt. Opie was just talking, dude,

920
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: that's how you played cupid.

921
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: You know who could have possibly guessed that?

922
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 6: We have another clear cutcase where open and honest and

923
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 6: vulnerable communication would have prevented.

924
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: All of this from happening.

925
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 6: If someone would to just go, you know what, Op,

926
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 6: I really don't like how you kind of like tried

927
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 6: to overstep Ava when we were at the bar the

928
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 6: other week, and you would be excuse me, what, I

929
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 6: don't even remember that guy's name.

930
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: What are we talking about? I didn't mean.

931
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 6: This was all misunderstanding. Let's try and talk less, Yuh.

932
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 6: Let me clarify. I was not flirt with him.

933
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: I didn't speak to him at all except for a

934
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: few minutes very late into the night. From my perspective,

935
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: he was the one asking me about my dating life

936
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: and how I feel about men, etc. I had a

937
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: similar conversation with the other girls and guys when the

938
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: topic came up with them. I was not flirting with

939
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: those other girls or guys either. Also, I would never

940
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: flirt with a guy knowing my friend likes him. That's

941
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: not the top of person I am. I thought my

942
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: friends knew that, and I really thought Ava knew that

943
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: about me. Anyways, I guess these are the things being

944
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: whispered about me, which led to Becca uninviting me completely.

945
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: This was not brought up to me before the girl's trip.

946
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: A asked if I found that guy attractive, and I

947
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: said no. That's basically the only communication about this situation

948
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: I'm aware of. Wow, I don't know. I didn't think

949
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: I said anything flirtatious to him. I didn't ask him

950
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: about his dating life for spicy sleep life. I didn't

951
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 3: touch him in any way, didn't ask for contact or anything.

952
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: I was just being friendly. I just wish they'd ask

953
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: me about the situation instead of assuming the worst. So yeah,

954
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm done. Being friends with these girls. Just feels like

955
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: a blatant salute shaming. I'm hurt by Ava, but I

956
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: clarify to her that I would never do that, and

957
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry if my conversation with them look flirtatious. I

958
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: don't want to continue this fight because I have other

959
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: priorities in my life. Thanks for your thoughts. I these

960
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: aren't really your friends.

961
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: Not like it.

962
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: No, it seems like you're the convenient friend whenever they

963
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: need more people or numbers. You're just someone they pick up.

964
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: They don't really want to have a depth like friendship

965
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 3: with you. Edit one. I just really wanted to say

966
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 3: and appreciate your thoughts. I don't care when Ava told

967
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: me about this issue. I specifically told her that I

968
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: don't want to be friends with people who assume the

969
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: worst of me, and because I don't want to argue,

970
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: I just said Ava and I were fine, but I

971
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: think you're right that she's not been a good friend

972
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: to me and she did let her jealousy get in

973
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: between her friendship. Our first conversation was really hostile. Thanks.

974
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: She kept telling me that it was not her place

975
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: to get involved and that it's between Becka and I.

976
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: But actually this does have to do with Ava, and

977
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 3: instead of telling me what was wrong, she just made

978
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: me feel bad about being upset that I was excluded.

979
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: I think I will kind of distant myself from her

980
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 3: and we could still be friends, but just not as

981
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: close as for the other girls in the group. Screw them,

982
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: I'm fine never hearing from them again. I have other

983
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 3: friends who have my back. Thanks again, Well guys, friend groups,

984
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 3: good friend groups, Yes, good ones.

985
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 5: My father wants to move his new family into the

986
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 5: house I inherited.

987
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: That's my house.

988
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 5: I'm at twenty five mail not from the US. Not

989
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 5: looking to get into legalities. I know where I stand

990
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 5: on that. My father married his now wife when I

991
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 5: was fifteen, She was really pushy with me because the

992
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 5: relationship with her own daughter was almost nonexistent. My father

993
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 5: did nothing, and I ended up moving with my grandpa

994
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 5: father's father a few months later. By the way, this

995
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 5: comes from month ninety one oh seven, and if you

996
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 5: want to submit your own stories, go to the r

997
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 5: slash Okay story time as subreddits. Grandpa passed away suddenly

998
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 5: when I was seventeen, and I inherited all his properties.

999
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 5: Instead of moving back with them, they moved with me

1000
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 5: to Grandpa's house. I left when I was eighteen to

1001
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 5: go to college, and I go back home a few

1002
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 5: times a year. I'd let them stay there renfree as

1003
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 5: long as they don't touch my room and Grandpa's office.

1004
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 5: The house has four rooms. I got a call from

1005
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 5: him telling me that I need to clean my room

1006
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 5: because they plan to turn it into a nursery room.

1007
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 5: Apparently my father's wife got in touch with his daughter

1008
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 5: because she is pregnant and doesn't have a place to stay.

1009
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 5: I denied his request and reminded him whose house they

1010
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 5: are staying at, and better not touch the rooms unless

1011
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 5: they want me to punt them out. I told them

1012
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 5: there is an empty room she can stay there, but

1013
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 5: he claims it's too small for both of them. I

1014
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 5: said that if they have a problem, they can go

1015
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 5: back to his own place. There she can take my room.

1016
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if he still has the house. I

1017
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 5: think I've been more than reasonable. But my uncle father's brother,

1018
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 5: who doesn't have the best relationship with my father, called

1019
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 5: me to say to think about it and not punt

1020
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 5: them out. So I wonder, am I the a hole?

1021
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 5: Their verdict was not the a hole. The day I

1022
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 5: wrote the original post, I called missus lawyer to accompany

1023
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 5: me to the house to deal with this in a

1024
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 5: civil manner. Saturday, we went early in the morning with paperwork.

1025
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 5: Once we arrived and I tried to open the door,

1026
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 5: I was pleasantly surprised that my father had changed the locks.

1027
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 5: Oh buddy, boy, now you've really done it. We talked

1028
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 5: through the door and he told me that until I

1029
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 5: changed my mind, he wasn't going to let me in.

1030
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 5: That's in my own house. That's not how that works.

1031
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 5: Now you're a squatter with the lawyer as a witness.

1032
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 5: My goodness, funny. I told him that I wasn't planning

1033
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 5: to punt them out, and I was there to solve

1034
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 5: this the right way, but if he wasn't going to

1035
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 5: let me in, I was going to do it my way,

1036
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 5: and he didn't let me in. On my way to

1037
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 5: the police station, my uncle called me and said that

1038
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 5: my father called him in order to make me change

1039
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 5: my mind, but he wasn't going to do it and

1040
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 5: will support whatever I decided. In the police station, missus

1041
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 5: lawyer explained the situation to them and they came with

1042
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 5: us so I could evict them without issues. Once we

1043
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 5: were there, the police spoke to them and told them

1044
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 5: that they had to let me in and get their

1045
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 5: things out as soon as possible. I hired a moving

1046
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 5: truck for them. My father tried to fight, saying that

1047
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 5: he sold his house and doesn't have a place to go,

1048
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 5: and he also claimed that he was the rightful owner,

1049
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 5: but the dim wit doesn't have any paperwork to prove it.

1050
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 5: In a last attempt, he brought up the fact that

1051
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 5: my stepsister is pregnant, but unfortunately for them, she is

1052
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 5: in the early stages and doesn't matter either way. After

1053
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 5: their circus was over, the removal of their things was quick.

1054
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 5: Most of the things in the house are mine, except

1055
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 5: for the things that they have in their room and

1056
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 5: my stepsister's stuff. I'm currently in the house and planned

1057
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 5: to stay here the next few days. I've changed the

1058
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 5: locks and I'm installing security cameras. I talked to my

1059
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 5: girlfriend about moving here and she's more than happy to

1060
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 5: do so. I'm going to talk to my boss about

1061
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 5: the possibility to work from home. But it's not a

1062
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 5: real problem if I can't without having to worry about

1063
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 5: the house of figuring out the rest is easy. That's

1064
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 5: pretty much it. I think I covered everything. Thank you

1065
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 5: for taking your time with this mess. I used to

1066
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 5: call family, but guess what, that's not it? Who got

1067
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 5: a second update? We're not even halfway through, folks. My

1068
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 5: girlfriend found this space and asked me to share our

1069
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 5: last encounters with my father, So here it goes. We

1070
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 5: hadn't heard from him until a few days ago when

1071
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 5: he showed up at the house. I wasn't there, but

1072
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 5: girlfriend was. My girlfriend told me that my father was

1073
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 5: there to tell us that since we are now living

1074
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 5: in the house, we have to host them for Christmas holidays.

1075
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 5: Not only that, he gave her a list of the

1076
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 5: food that they wanted and the gifts that they expected

1077
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 5: to receive. My girlfriend told him to go away before

1078
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 5: she called the police. I again thought it was over,

1079
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 5: but I was wrong again. Yesterday we received another visit

1080
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 5: from them. Apparently he called my mother to invite her

1081
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: to spend the holidays with us. She blew him off

1082
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 5: and told him that she will take us, girlfriend and

1083
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 5: I to Europe for New Year's Eve. Wow, he had

1084
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 5: the balls to demand that she take them too, and

1085
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 5: my mother just hung up up behind you. This was

1086
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 5: the first time that they had spoken after divorcing sixteen

1087
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 5: years ago. Why does he want to go on this

1088
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 5: trip if it's gonna be with this ex wife.

1089
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 4: I don't understand anything about this guy. He's insane. Like,

1090
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 4: I just think it would be a great time for

1091
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: us to reconnect and also for you to give me

1092
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: keys to the house.

1093
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah. What he came to the house to demand that

1094
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 5: I convince my mother to take them too, or that

1095
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 5: we pay for them to go with us.

1096
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: Well, I don't understand what he is how he's demanding this? Yeah,

1097
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 4: Like where is his leverette? At this point, his attitude

1098
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 4: stopped being disappointing and turned comical. My girlfriend and I

1099
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: just laughed at him, and we laughed so hard that

1100
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 4: we didn't notice when he left.

1101
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 5: I can say that we didn't have the best relationship,

1102
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,959
Speaker 5: but he wasn't entitled. I mean, it was already clear

1103
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 5: why my grandfather, his father, was completely disappointed in him.

1104
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 5: But it seems that he wants to take it to

1105
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 5: another new level. I don't know if he will stop,

1106
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 5: but I hope that he does for the rest of

1107
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 5: the year, and there is an edit.

1108
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: I have a system.

1109
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 5: There are cameras everywhere. I know if he is there.

1110
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 5: I also have other properties, my tenants and people close

1111
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 5: to a girlfriend and me. Even my neighbors know what

1112
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 5: to do if my father approaches them in my name.

1113
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 5: I doubt he will try to break in when we're

1114
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 5: not here. When I evicted them, and my lawyer and

1115
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 5: the police were more than clear that he could face

1116
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 5: serious problems if he tries to enter the house or

1117
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 5: any other of my properties. Unfortunately, in my country, any

1118
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 5: kind of restraining order is pretty much useless. It is

1119
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 5: more helpful to call the police right then and there,

1120
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 5: and he knows I have no problem calling them. There

1121
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 5: are some relevant comments, but I want to hear yours, Sophia.

1122
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 5: It's such a silly situation.

1123
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 4: I don't even know what you do, Like, you can't

1124
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 4: with these people. Yeah, you just have to keep going

1125
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: through like legal processes them.

1126
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, and it seems like, oh he's doing that yeah,

1127
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 5: which is good.

1128
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1129
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 5: And oh, p's at a good place where you can

1130
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 5: just laugh about it now. He's just like I have

1131
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 5: a house, you guys don't. Yeah, I'm going on a

1132
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: trip with my mom.

1133
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1134
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 5: When asked if his father is just broken, Opie says,

1135
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 5: I agree that he has broken, but I can say

1136
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 5: that he is by his own hand and not by

1137
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 5: pressure of any kind. He knows what he is doing.

1138
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: I was basically raised by his parents, and they didn't

1139
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 5: raise me any different than him or my uncle, who

1140
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 5: is another case. It baffles me that they turned this way.

1141
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 5: My grandparents raised us to be decent people, and they

1142
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 5: decided not to be. It is so bad that my

1143
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 5: grandparents passed away without speaking to any of them.

1144
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

1145
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 5: I grew up watching him make one mistake after another,

1146
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 5: no ownership or attempt to be better. My grandparents tried

1147
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 5: to help him, but he refused and said that he

1148
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 5: was living his life the way he wanted. How can

1149
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 5: you help someone when he thinks he is right. My

1150
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 5: grandfather used to say that my father is weak, and

1151
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 5: I agree because I have no argument to say otherwise.

1152
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 5: I never expected to get anything from my grandparents. I'm

1153
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 5: grateful for what they left me, and I still would

1154
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 5: be if they left me nothing, because they did more

1155
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 5: than what they should. I already knew that I will

1156
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 5: not get anything from my father, financially or emotionally. The

1157
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 5: same with my mother. Our relationships are superficial. It has

1158
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 5: been like this since I was a kid. But I

1159
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 5: won't worry if she ever stops and leaves me nothing.

1160
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 5: It is her right, and the same with my father.

1161
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 5: In the end, I take what I'm given, and I

1162
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 5: can agree with you that I am also entitled. So

1163
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 5: update number three a little family mess and my father

1164
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 5: strikes again. But now he got more than he asked for.

1165
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 5: Two and a half months after my last post, after

1166
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 5: the last incident with my father, everything was quiet and

1167
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 5: my girlfriend and I left to Europe. Christmas passed and

1168
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 5: there was no side of my father. My friends that

1169
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 5: were taking care of the house reported no incidents. Everything

1170
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 5: was going well until I received a call from my

1171
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 5: uncle father's brother on December twenty eighth, my uncle called

1172
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 5: me to tell me that he's leaving the state and

1173
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: is selling his house. He asked me if I was

1174
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 5: interested in the house, because he was pretty desperate to leave.

1175
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 5: He didn't tell me the reason why he was leaving,

1176
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 5: and I didn't care. What matters to me is that

1177
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 5: he was desperate and this was the opportunity to fulfill

1178
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 5: my grandpa's wish. Or I continue, I have to give

1179
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 5: you some context. My uncle's house was my grandfather's childhood home.

1180
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 5: My grandpa gave it to him, but later regretted it.

1181
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 5: He left me the task of recovering it, and if

1182
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 5: I succeeded to give it to my cousin Marie, my

1183
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 5: uncle's daughter from his first marriage, he never recognized her,

1184
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 5: and that is one of the many reasons of my

1185
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 5: grandpa's regrets. My uncle doesn't know that I have contact

1186
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 5: with his daughter, or that I know everything that happened

1187
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 5: in the past. If he did, he wouldn't sell me

1188
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 5: the house. Yes, he is that petty.

1189
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 3: Now.

1190
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 5: I decided to use the family card and my uncle's

1191
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 5: desperation to get the house cheap. I know more or

1192
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 5: less the value of the house, so I made him

1193
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 5: an offer way below the real value, but that I

1194
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 5: was going to pay him in three installments. My uncle

1195
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 5: declined because it was too low and because he is

1196
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 5: not coming back. What he really meant is that he

1197
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 5: is not going to contact me again. I told him

1198
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 5: that if he could wait until my return January third,

1199
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 5: I could pay him the same amount in one go,

1200
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 5: but I would also take care of the legal fees

1201
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 5: and his moving expenses. Meanwhile, he just needed to pack

1202
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 5: his things, have his paperwork ready, and everything would be

1203
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 5: done that day. Prizingly, he immediately agreed. We returned and

1204
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 5: I could buy the house without problems, and my uncle

1205
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 5: left the same day. The next day, I called my

1206
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 5: cousin to tell her to come as soon as she

1207
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 5: can to my country. She lives in Europe, because there

1208
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 5: is one more thing that my grandparents left to her.

1209
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 5: She came a few days ago and I gave her

1210
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 5: the house and the rest of the money. Whoa, he

1211
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 5: gave her the other house. Yeah, yeah, like the uncle's house.

1212
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 5: She had to say a few days to deal with paperwork,

1213
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 5: and in those days who decided to appear once again?

1214
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 5: You guessed it, my father. Unbeknownst to me, my uncle

1215
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 5: had another buyer, and that person was my father. My

1216
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 5: father asked my uncle to wait a few days so

1217
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 5: he could gather more money. When he got it, he

1218
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 5: called my uncle, but he already sold me the house.

1219
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 5: My uncle, in order to avoid dealing with my father,

1220
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 5: told him that I bought the house. My father, knowing

1221
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 5: that he can no longer approach my house, he decided

1222
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 5: to go to my new one, but he was going

1223
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 5: to receive a surprise. He knocked and demanded that I'd

1224
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 5: give it to him, but no one is in there

1225
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 5: for the moment, so he decided.

1226
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: To break in.

1227
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 5: We saw everything through the doorbell camera. My cousin doesn't

1228
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 5: speak our language, so I was the one who called

1229
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 5: the police in her name. Thanks to the area where

1230
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 5: the house is and the fact that my cousin is

1231
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 5: a foreigner, the police took action faster than the previous times.

1232
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 5: It is a pity that I don't have a photo

1233
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 5: of my father's face when he discovered that the house

1234
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 5: wasn't mine. It was glorious. My cousin, with my lawyer's

1235
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 5: help and mine, pressed charges and combined with my father's

1236
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 5: previous actions, he will spend a few months in jail.

1237
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 5: Oh oh, my gosh. Thanks to a few people, I

1238
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 5: was able to find out why my uncle was desperate

1239
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 5: to leave. He pissed off his wife's family like really bad.

1240
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 5: I sent him a text telling him that if he

1241
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 5: likes to rap me out to my father, I can

1242
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 5: do the same with his wife's family. So he better

1243
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 5: not come back unless he wants to play stupid games

1244
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 5: and he blocks me after that. He already told me

1245
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 5: that he wasn't coming back, but I better make sure

1246
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 5: that he doesn't. In the end, if my cousin decides

1247
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 5: to keep the house, this will benefit her since she

1248
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 5: doesn't want to cross paths with my uncle. So yeah,

1249
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 5: the year started off with a bang. I pretty much

1250
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 5: got rid of my so called family for what I

1251
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 5: think is forever and can finally start building one with

1252
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 5: my girlfriend without the worry of unwanted people showing up.

1253
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 5: There are some relevant comments to wrap this up. Accomplished

1254
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 5: Keys seven thirty nine says, what did the uncle do

1255
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 5: tips up the wife? Assuming OPI said he got wasted

1256
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 5: on Christmas and ended up fighting with his brother in

1257
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 5: law and his nephew, which is the brother in law's son.

1258
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 5: And if that wasn't enough, he also got violent with

1259
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 5: his stepdaughter who was trying to calm him down. Stop

1260
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 5: all of this in front of his wife's entire family. Accomplished,

1261
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 5: Key says, just curious. Was he charged or arrested? Opie

1262
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 5: says none of that, which is why he was in

1263
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 5: a hurry to leave. Dang, that's the end of that story.

1264
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: Hey y'all, it's John Ogi host here. We're gonna get

1265
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: back to the story. So but here's a quick three

1266
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: minute break from as for more sponsors.

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Speaker 4: I told my mother to stop updating my kid's father,

1268
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 4: but she won't listen.

1269
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 5: Stop talking to them, please.

1270
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: I have a beautiful four year old boy whose father

1271
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 4: we're going to call David is not in the picture

1272
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 4: after I made the decision of cutting him out of

1273
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 4: our lives after he got a girlfriend and stopped asking

1274
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 4: about our son. By the way, this comes from Serious

1275
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 4: Entry seven five seven four and if you want to

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Speaker 4: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime.

1277
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: Separate it some context. I used to live in Hispanic

1278
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 4: Country where I met David. We dated for about a year,

1279
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: broke up, but continued to hook up until August twenty twenty,

1280
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 4: when the VID hit and I decided to move back

1281
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 4: to the States. When I moved back, I was unaware

1282
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: I was pregnant. Fast forward, I find out I'm having

1283
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 4: a boy and I make it public on social media.

1284
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 4: David text me and asks why he was not made

1285
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 4: aware of my pregnancy and asks that we get back

1286
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: together and for me to move back to the country

1287
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 4: so he can be involved in my baby's life. We

1288
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 4: had a conversation and we both agreed it's in my

1289
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 4: son's best interests if he is born in the States

1290
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 4: and he can be involved in my son's life through

1291
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 4: FaceTime and phone calls. I also made him aware that

1292
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 4: if he was going to be in my son's life,

1293
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 4: it was going to be twenty four seve Heaven, not

1294
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 4: whenever he wanted to. David and I grew up with

1295
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 4: divorced parents and a very absent father, so naturally we

1296
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 4: didn't want our son to go through the same experiences

1297
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 4: we had with our father. Fast forward to twenty twenty two.

1298
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 4: David was very involved in my son's life. We kept

1299
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 4: things civil. We both started relationships. I met my husband

1300
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 4: and he met his now partner who he has another kid.

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01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 4: A few months into David's new relationship, I noticed he

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01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 4: started to call and text.

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01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 5: A little bit less.

1304
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 4: Naturally, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought,

1305
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 4: maybe he's busy working or just has some family stuff

1306
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: going on, no big deal. Used to call about four

1307
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 4: to five times a week, text almost every day asking

1308
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 4: how our son was. Then he began to text three

1309
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: maybe four times a week and would call two times

1310
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 4: at the most during the week. One day, I decided

1311
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 4: to ask if everything was okay, and he made me

1312
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 4: aware that his girlfriend was not too happy with the

1313
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 4: fact that he had a son, so they broke things off.

1314
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 4: He then explained to where that our son was living

1315
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 4: the States and he didn't see him physically, but he

1316
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 4: did call and text. She immediately became okay with that.

1317
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 4: Continued the relationship that for me was a red flag. Yeah,

1318
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, he has a son. You have to get

1319
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 4: over that. If you can't, you have to leave.

1320
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, like unless she was doing math and she was like,

1321
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 5: so the beginning of this pregnancy was while we were dating. Yeah,

1322
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 5: that would be a problem. But yeah, if he just

1323
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 5: has a son, then it's like, girl, calm down. Son

1324
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 5: doesn't just leave.

1325
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't just disappear exactly like, if that's just

1326
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 4: not what you want in your lifestyle right now, I'm sure,

1327
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 4: but don't get mad about it.

1328
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 5: I get mad about it, yeah.

1329
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 4: But I was not going to intervene in a relationship

1330
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 4: that was not mine. He said everything was okay, and

1331
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 4: he began to call and text a little bit more.

1332
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,479
Speaker 4: My son was around two years old at this time,

1333
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 4: so he knew about his biodad, but began to call

1334
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: my husband dad also. By the time August of twenty

1335
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 4: twenty two, hits, David was calling two to three times

1336
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 4: per month. I had a conversation with David about him

1337
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 4: not being there and only calling whenever he wanted to.

1338
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 4: He then explained that his girlfriend wasn't a big fan

1339
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 4: of him calling me to communicate with our son, so

1340
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 4: to please her, he began to call less and less.

1341
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 4: Eventually I was not hearing from day David for months

1342
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 4: at a time, and my son began to call and

1343
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,479
Speaker 4: interact with my husband as if he were his dad.

1344
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 4: By then, my son had forgotten David's name and stopped

1345
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 4: asking and mentioning him. My husband and I had a

1346
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 4: talk and decided it would be for my son's well

1347
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 4: being if he did not know about David until he

1348
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 4: was at that age where he would understand the situation. Okay,

1349
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 4: now to the title. Fast forward to twenty twenty five.

1350
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: David is no longer in our lives. He lives in

1351
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 4: an area remotely close to where my mother lives in

1352
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 4: this Hispanic country, so they frequently bump into each other.

1353
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 4: My mom constantly brings up this topic or David's name

1354
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 4: in front of my husband and keeps insinuating David is

1355
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 4: my son's only dad. She would send David and his

1356
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 4: mom pictures of my son, milestone updates, et cetera. I've

1357
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 4: asked her many times not to do so because it

1358
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 4: is disrespectful to my husband and son and to me.

1359
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 4: He always plays that he has the right to know

1360
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 4: and I'm only trying to look out for my son's

1361
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 4: best interests at his young age. She has also expressed

1362
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 4: many times that David has been very regretful for not

1363
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 4: communicating with his son and he would like to make

1364
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 4: it up to him. My mom has asked that I

1365
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: give my son the opportunity to meet David after all

1366
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 4: these years. I expressed to her that I don't think

1367
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: it's convenient time to tell my son about David because

1368
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 4: he sees my husband as his dad, and I don't

1369
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 4: want to confuse an innocent three year old just because

1370
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: David decided to please his partner and leave our son

1371
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 4: with an absent father. My mom is David's number and

1372
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 4: his mom's number, and they constantly text back and forth

1373
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 4: about how my son is doing. My mom hid this

1374
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 4: from me until recently asked her to stop, Otherwise I

1375
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 4: would stop answering her calls and she would not hear

1376
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 4: from us. Obviously, she did not follow my requests, and

1377
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 4: I spent over six weeks without picking up phone calls

1378
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 4: from her. I received many calls and threats from her,

1379
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 4: but I ignored all of them.

1380
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 5: I stood my ground.

1381
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 4: My husband has stepped up in so many ways being

1382
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 4: a true father figure for a son, and my son

1383
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 4: absolutely adores him. I don't believe it's fair to him

1384
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 4: to constantly have David's name rubbed in his face and

1385
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 4: to be told he is my son's only father when

1386
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 4: my husband has been there since my son was eighteen

1387
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 4: months old and has never left his side no matter what.

1388
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 4: So my question is what do I do at this point?

1389
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 4: Should I cut off all communication with my mom for

1390
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 4: not respecting my decision, or should I give in and

1391
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 4: give David a chance to talk to her son. I'm

1392
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: sorry it's such a long post, but details were needed

1393
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 4: for this to make sense and edits. I decided not

1394
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 4: to move back to the country where my mom and

1395
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 4: David lived because of the economic situation, and to be honest,

1396
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 4: I could financially support my child better in the States

1397
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 4: on my own than in that country with David's help.

1398
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 4: He also wanted to get back together and that was

1399
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,959
Speaker 4: not gonna happen at all. For those of you saying

1400
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 4: I'm keeping my child from his father, I made a

1401
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 4: decision for me and my son's best interest. My husband

1402
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 4: has decided not to intervene because, like I said, it's

1403
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 4: for my son and I's best interest at the moment.

1404
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 4: In the last two years, David has reached out max

1405
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 4: five times directly to me. The times he has reached out,

1406
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 4: it has been hey, how's the kid. I reply, he's good,

1407
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 4: he did such and such today, and that's it, and

1408
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 4: then I don't hear from him from another six months.

1409
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 4: So forgive me for trying to avoid causing my child

1410
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 4: to feel unwanted or uncared for by someone who is

1411
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 4: said to be his father when he only remembers he

1412
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 4: has a kid every few months. The only reason David

1413
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 4: and his mom texts call communicate with my mother is

1414
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 4: because he knows dang well that if he tried to

1415
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 4: reach out to me. He knows he will not get

1416
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 4: a response for me because I'm the bad one who

1417
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 4: doesn't let him communicate with this child. When this whole

1418
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 4: time he has tried to reach out, like I said,

1419
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 4: a good five times in two years, he knows my

1420
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 4: mom will insist and insist until I give it. There's

1421
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 4: a little bit more of the story. Like I said

1422
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 4: in the post, I grew up with an absent dad

1423
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 4: who couldn't keep a job, had two more kids after

1424
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 4: my siblings and I, and who was in and out

1425
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 4: of our lives whenever he felt he needed to give

1426
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 4: us love and to this day reaches out every once

1427
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 4: in a while asking for money. Personally, I decided to

1428
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 4: not have communication with my dad for my own mental health.

1429
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 4: So forgive me for trying to save my children, my

1430
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: child from the trauma daddy issues and not feeling loved

1431
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 4: or wanted from a parent who descid it's to be

1432
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 4: in and out of his life. The only thing I'll

1433
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 4: say to that comment, I do think in part, you're right,

1434
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 4: you had a choice in not wanting to have a

1435
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 4: relationship with your dad. So I do think just when

1436
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 4: your child's old enough, providing them that same choice.

1437
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, if I.

1438
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 4: Have the opportunity to give my son a father figure

1439
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 4: who will actually love and care for him, so be it.

1440
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 4: I don't care if he is his biodad or not.

1441
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 4: When my son is old enough to understand, he will

1442
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 4: know the truth.

1443
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 6: That is it.

1444
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's complicated because because that question originally like

1445
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 5: was you know, am I a whole if I like,

1446
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 5: don't let David contact the kid? Right? So I don't know.

1447
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 5: I mean like I wonder if she can have like

1448
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 5: a tougher conversation with him. Be like, hey, you said

1449
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 5: you wanted to be more active, but your activity is

1450
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 5: like a couple of times every couple of years. It

1451
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 5: doesn't exist. Yeah, So it's like you, what that means

1452
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 5: to me is that you're calling this amount of times.

1453
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 5: So if you don't want to call this amount of times,

1454
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 5: then we're going to give you another title and we're

1455
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 5: going to explain your behavior a different way.

1456
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:55,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1457
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 4: No, I think just like having that conversation with him again,

1458
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 4: only because he is still like he's not a dad

1459
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 4: in like how much effort he's putting in, for sure,

1460
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 4: but he is, you know.

1461
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 5: Purely biological biologically dad.

1462
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1463
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 5: I want to move in with my boyfriend, but my

1464
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 5: mom can't stand him. Mother knows best. I twenty three female,

1465
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 5: and my boyfriend twenty five male, and I have been

1466
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 5: together for three years. We met online and clicked right away.

1467
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 5: He's genuinely one of the kindest, most hard working people

1468
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 5: I know. I just graduated with a degree in graphic

1469
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 5: design and have been living at home to save money

1470
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 5: during school. By the way, this comes from Macaroon top

1471
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 5: of forty fifteen and if you want to submit your

1472
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 5: own stories, go to the r slash Okase storytime Separate It.

1473
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 5: The tough part is my mom has hated him from

1474
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 5: the start. She used to let him come over, but

1475
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 5: now he's not even allowed on our property. When I

1476
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 5: used to borrow my parents' car, they gave me strict

1477
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 5: rules about when I could see him. Even after getting

1478
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 5: my own car, they constantly tried to guilt me about

1479
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 5: where I went and tracked my location through my phone

1480
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 5: it's been really emotionally exhausting. My mom constantly insults him

1481
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 5: and even talks badly about me for staying with him.

1482
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 5: She calls him white trash and says and he won't

1483
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 5: amount to anything. The truth is he's worked his butt off.

1484
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 5: He left a high paying job to go to trade school,

1485
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 5: just got his journeyman license, and is planning to get

1486
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 5: his degree in electrical engineering. He's not perfect, but he's

1487
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 5: doing everything he can to build a better future. My

1488
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 5: mom has even tried to bribe me to break up

1489
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 5: with him, offering things like vacations or a new motorcycle,

1490
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 5: but only if I'm single. Like, you can have it,

1491
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 5: you have it if you're breaking up with the apartment right,

1492
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 5: and now my dad, who I think actually likes him,

1493
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 5: it just goes along with it to avoid drama. The

1494
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 5: final straw was recently when I found out that they

1495
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 5: put a hidden camera inside the house while they were

1496
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 5: on vacation without telling me.

1497
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 1: Is that illegal that illegals?

1498
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 5: Not our own house, their own house.

1499
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: Oh it's their own house.

1500
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just living with her parents. It wasn't for

1501
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 4: the dogs.

1502
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 5: It felt like a huge breach of trust and it

1503
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 5: really hurts. The thing is my friends, coworkers, and extended

1504
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 5: family all like him. He's not the problem. The problem

1505
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 5: is this constant pressure at home. We just toured some

1506
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 5: apartments and applied for one. We left the move and

1507
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 5: date is in two weeks. I have a solid, full

1508
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 5: time job in my own car. I'm fully ready for this,

1509
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 5: but now that it's real, I'm freaking out about telling

1510
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 5: my parents. They have no idea I'm doing this, and

1511
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 5: I know it's going to blow up when I tell them.

1512
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 5: Am I the a hole? And there is an edit.

1513
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 5: I'm just worried about telling her because she has a

1514
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 5: history of lashing out verbally when I don't do exactly

1515
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 5: what she wants. She also has a history with regular

1516
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 5: booze use. She quit for a while, but now it's

1517
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 5: slowly seeping back in. There are some comments coming. Number

1518
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 5: one says personally, I would move out all my important

1519
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 5: stuff before telling them. I did not mean your clothes

1520
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 5: or furniture, but the things that could not easily be

1521
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 5: replaced documentations such as birth certificate, passport, laptop, any truly

1522
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 5: meaningful trinkets inherited jewelry, for example. Once that is out,

1523
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 5: I would tell them as I was carrying a big

1524
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 5: bag of all my clothes out of the house. Someone responds,

1525
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 5: also secretly get a new phone, gradually shift the context

1526
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 5: that you want to keep the new one the day

1527
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 5: you leave factory, reset the old one and leave it

1528
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 5: on mom's table. Best of luck to you and fly free.

1529
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 5: Not the a whole. Comment over two says, sounds like

1530
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 5: Mama has a really really bad case of empty nest

1531
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 5: syndrome and doesn't want to let go She he's beginning

1532
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 5: to realize you're grown up, and she doesn't want to

1533
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 5: let go of you. If you have a stable job,

1534
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 5: move the heck out. Boyfriend sounds like a good man,

1535
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 5: but don't depend on him. Every woman needs her own.

1536
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 5: Comment over three says, not the a whole. You are

1537
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 5: of age, can't support yourself. You can do what you want.

1538
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 5: Have your parents acted this way with other boyfriends? Is

1539
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 5: there a possibility that they see something that the others

1540
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 5: do not? Oh, he says, She's always had issues with

1541
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 5: every boyfriend I've had. There's only one that she liked,

1542
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 5: and he ended up being the worst of them all.

1543
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 5: She's just progressively gotten worse with her feelings and how

1544
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 5: she treats me no matter who I date. But we

1545
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 5: do have an update. We signed our lease yesterday and

1546
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 5: are paying our deposit and first month's rent today. I

1547
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 5: went home and told my parents what was happening, and

1548
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 5: of course I couldn't help but cry because I knew

1549
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 5: that they would freak out. Of course, they freaked out.

1550
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 5: I told them I was moving out and they asked

1551
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 5: if it was with my boyfriend, and I said yes.

1552
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 5: My dad said that he was disappointed, and then my

1553
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 5: mom ran downstairs and made herself throw up for dramatic effect.

1554
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 5: He then proceeded to ask questions like when are you leaving,

1555
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 5: how much is it, et cetera. I answered their questions,

1556
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 5: and then we started into that I lied and deceived them.

1557
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 5: I didn't know I was doing this until last Saturday,

1558
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 5: and how I was being sneaky because I knew that

1559
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 5: I was doing it wrong. I was told that I

1560
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 5: was stupid for choosing to live with him and wrap

1561
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 5: myself up with him, and that I gave this zero thought.

1562
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 5: But I've been thinking about this for a couple of years,

1563
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 5: planning for about three I have run so many spreadsheets

1564
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 5: to make sure that it was a financially sound decision.

1565
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 5: And plan for the unexpected. Boyfriend and I have been

1566
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 5: together for three years, so really, no worry about us

1567
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 5: not getting along or anything. We have the maturity to

1568
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 5: deal with things in a civil manner if things didn't

1569
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 5: work out. My parents continued to pester me about how

1570
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 5: much they don't like him, and that they wish that

1571
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 5: I would have come to them for help. I told

1572
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 5: them I wasn't comfortable with that because they likely would

1573
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 5: have tried to change my mind or alter my decision.

1574
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 5: They tried to pry my boyfriend's financial information out of me,

1575
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 5: like his credit score, and I told them that it

1576
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 5: was none of their business and that even my financials

1577
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 5: are none of their business. They also talked about the

1578
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,879
Speaker 5: fact that he should try harder to earn their respect

1579
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 5: and a relationship with them, in which I replied, it's

1580
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 5: a little difficult considering you won't allow him anywhere around you.

1581
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 5: They replied, well, he could work on improving his finances

1582
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 5: and living situation to earn our respect. He's literally they're moving.

1583
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 5: He's doing that. They're literally improving their living situation. He's

1584
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 5: saying that I can afford an apartment. Yeah, I don't understand.

1585
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 5: That's actively happening right now. I said, we are not

1586
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 5: here to impress you or make you happy. Of course

1587
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 5: this upset them. We're like, what what do you mean

1588
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 5: You're not here to impress that. What do you mean?

1589
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 5: Come on, dance monkey. They tried to tell me that

1590
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 5: I have three days to rescind the property. This isn't true.

1591
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 5: That's only if you buy a property or a car.

1592
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 5: They also told me that if they'd been involved in

1593
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 5: the decision making process, they would have helped pay my

1594
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 5: rent and bought me furniture. And I said I didn't

1595
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 5: want that. No, they would have helped pay rent if

1596
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 5: you were single. Yeah, exactly, And then even if they

1597
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 5: actually did pay rent for the situation, they would like

1598
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 5: use that as reason to have say in other things.

1599
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 2: Oh.

1600
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 5: I was also told that I have no ambition, but

1601
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 5: I just graduated college with my bachelor's degree, started my

1602
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 5: own graphic design business, and worked a full time job

1603
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 5: that pays well, and I bought my own car last summer.

1604
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 5: My dad also told me that I was bound to

1605
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 5: fail several times in life and that this may be

1606
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 5: one of those times. What a lovely thing to say

1607
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 5: to someone as they go out in the world. After

1608
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 5: about two hours of arguing and putting me down, my

1609
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 5: mother insisted that my dad drive her to the liquor store.

1610
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 5: He refused. At least good the dad is slightly sensible. Yeah.

1611
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 5: She tried three more times until he finally gave in Okay, no,

1612
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 5: never mind. Fast forward to this morning. My dad says

1613
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 5: to me as I sit down for breakfast, I'm sitting

1614
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 5: at the dining table and he is at the kitchen counter.

1615
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 5: This is our common seating. No one sits at the

1616
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 5: table with me. The discussion about this apartment isn't over,

1617
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 5: so I ask what he wants to talk about. He

1618
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 5: proceeds to tell me that I am jeopardizing their finances

1619
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 5: because he is a a co borrower on my motorcycle,

1620
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,759
Speaker 5: and that I won't be paying for the horse anymore.

1621
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 5: We split expensive. He told me I had thirty days

1622
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 5: to refinance and get my motorcycle out of his name,

1623
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 5: or I have to sell it. I told them that

1624
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 5: they could give the horse back to her owner, as

1625
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 5: the old owner already said that they'd love to have

1626
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 5: her back if the opportunity ever arises. So either this

1627
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 5: is a literal horse or this is just like a

1628
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 5: metaphor for a moment. I think this is a horse.

1629
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 5: I think he has a motorcycle and a horse. That's wild. Yeah.

1630
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 5: The issue with them saying that it puts them in

1631
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 5: a financial situation is that they just bought a thousand

1632
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 5: dollars car and are spending thousands of dollars on vacation

1633
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 5: this year. Money is not an issue. They then proceeded

1634
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 5: to tell me how I think they're such terrible parents

1635
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 5: and how stupid I am for making this decision. They

1636
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 5: try to tell me that if I can somehow get

1637
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 5: out of this lease, they'll help me pick out another

1638
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 5: apartment with their help and money. I said I didn't

1639
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 5: want any strings attached to them, So then they start

1640
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 5: arguing more about that I have given this no thoughts

1641
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 5: and that I act like I'm sixteen. I left for

1642
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 5: work before even eating breakfast because I was sick of

1643
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 5: the treatment I was getting. So now I am stressing

1644
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 5: about trying to get my motorcycle refinanced. I'm worried about

1645
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 5: being denied and then having to sell it. I know

1646
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 5: the horse will be in a loving home with her

1647
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 5: old owners. I only have a few days left in

1648
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 5: their house, but I worry about going home now that

1649
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 5: I'll be astirred. Probably. Yeah, there are some comments how

1650
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 5: My number one says, have your parents ever given a

1651
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 5: legitimate reason for not liking your boyfriend? Opie says, their

1652
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 5: biggest gripe is that he comes from a lower class family.

1653
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 5: People are rich, Yeah, they're rich rich. He has already

1654
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 5: far surpassed anything his family has done in life. They

1655
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 5: say he's a one upper whenever he talks. But this

1656
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 5: is not true. All of my friends and other family

1657
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 5: like him. And that is the end of that story. Dang,

1658
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 5: wait what Yeah, you just got to move out. Your

1659
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 5: parents are going to hold you down if you stay there. Yeah,

1660
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 5: and if you even if you take any of their money.

1661
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 5: It's not a free lunch. No, But that is the

1662
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 5: end of that story. Wow.

1663
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 4: Wow, good luck Opie, and with your horse. I hope

1664
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 4: it returns to a loving owner. Say a very nice

1665
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 4: goodbye to your horse. That's the end of the story

1666
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 4: and the end of the episode. Would you look at that? So,

1667
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,520
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01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,920
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