WEBVTT - Gimme The Asphalt!

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<v Speaker 1>This is on the Job. This season, we're speaking with

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<v Speaker 1>folks who are finding their professional stride in a tumultuous

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<v Speaker 1>job market and learning how to double down on their

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<v Speaker 1>skills and their experience to overcome challenges. We'll bring you

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring stories of people making themselves essential, an important skill

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<v Speaker 1>set in any economy. As Americans shut their doors and

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<v Speaker 1>stay home in the midst of a pandemic, truckers continue

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the country moving and stocked up on food

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<v Speaker 1>as they always have. It's tough, demanding work that can

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<v Speaker 1>keep you on the road for months at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are a few jobs that come with the

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<v Speaker 1>freedom and purpose that the open road has to offer. Hello, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing? Super fantastic? How are you? This

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<v Speaker 1>is Ingrid Brown. We hopped on a zoom call while

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<v Speaker 1>she was at a rest stop. She was calling from

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<v Speaker 1>the cab of her truck. I am actually sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the driver's cheek and I am in Abingdon, Virginia. I

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<v Speaker 1>just delivered cherries yesterday and they came from Stockton, California.

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<v Speaker 1>She will be here long though. She's headed to Wilkesboro,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina to pick up a load of chickens to

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<v Speaker 1>haul those all the way to Arkansas at least in

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<v Speaker 1>eleven hour drive. The truck you're driving right now, does

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<v Speaker 1>it have a name? Peach, A peach of mind? Peach? Ohman,

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<v Speaker 1>this truck is like this one of a cut. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of mind, but I said, will be a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of mind. Peach white teeth. Her color. She sends

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<v Speaker 1>me a picture. It's this amazing peach color with teal

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<v Speaker 1>and white stripes along the sides. It is a very

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<v Speaker 1>attractive truck. Yeah. And just like most big rigs have

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<v Speaker 1>a name, the drivers also have nicknames that they're known

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<v Speaker 1>by over the radio. Do you have a call name

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio? I used to go be half pint. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm five too, and I used to be skinny and young.

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<v Speaker 1>But know what I you know? Ingrid, I'm Ingrid, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a truck driver, That's what I do. Ingrid is

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<v Speaker 1>from Zionville, North Carolina, right near Boone on the Tennessee border.

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<v Speaker 1>She's fifty eight and she's been trucking for over four

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<v Speaker 1>decades years. In December, I love what I do. I

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<v Speaker 1>run for State O, my own independence whole owned company,

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<v Speaker 1>Rolling B, and I also drive as a company driver

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<v Speaker 1>for Flaner Brothers out of Carthage, Missouri. Ingrid is one

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<v Speaker 1>of three point five million truckers on the American Highway.

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<v Speaker 1>About two thousand of those are women. In the last decade,

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of women in trucking has increased by six

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<v Speaker 1>and Ingrid is a huge proponent of keeping that number growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my thing. My steering will doesn't know the gender

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<v Speaker 1>that holds it, and it really doesn't care as long

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<v Speaker 1>as it gets safely from point A to point B.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all kinds of different ways you can go

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<v Speaker 1>about trucking. Some drivers prefer to specialize in hauling one

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<v Speaker 1>kind of load, whether it's veggies or lumber, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of truckers, like Ingrid, become a jack of all

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<v Speaker 1>trades and know how to haul pretty much anything. So

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<v Speaker 1>you may see me under a conostogo, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>curtain sided flat bed and hollow machinery and that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Sometimes you might be driving a refrigerated trailer

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<v Speaker 1>used for transporting anything that needs to keep cool. These

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<v Speaker 1>trailers are known in trucker lingo as reefers. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not hauling reefer, I am pulling a refrigerated trailer. And

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<v Speaker 1>each individual load she picks up comes with its own

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<v Speaker 1>completely unique set of tasks exactly exactly, and and my

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<v Speaker 1>biggest one, honestly is when I load, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that it's loaded properly and it's loaded to

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<v Speaker 1>where it's going to ride across the country. Any product

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<v Speaker 1>draft right toilet paper, produce cows at the load, something

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<v Speaker 1>like peaches. She'll make sure that her route avoids any

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<v Speaker 1>rough roads so the fruit doesn't get bruised before it

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<v Speaker 1>gets to the market. And a lot of care goes

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<v Speaker 1>into hauling her favorite load, cattle, which she constantly checks

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<v Speaker 1>on make sure that they're hydrated, and takes corners real

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<v Speaker 1>slow to make sure that they're okay. And I've not

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<v Speaker 1>met many of that halk cows that don't do that

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<v Speaker 1>because you have kids on board. Yeah, you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>babies on board. Do you care about them? You take

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<v Speaker 1>care of them. And even though she takes extra care

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<v Speaker 1>of the cows that she hauls, it's pretty clear that

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<v Speaker 1>she treats all of her loads as precious cargo. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't just shut the doors and drive down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Trucking has definitely become its own subculture in the last

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<v Speaker 1>century It's got its own language, its own conventions, even

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<v Speaker 1>its own music. Today some people call truckers the last

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<v Speaker 1>of the cowboys, lone rangers roaming the American landscape. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a job that attracts a certain kind of person, independent, curious.

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<v Speaker 1>So in lot of ways, Ingrid was born to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the greatest childhood. I was adventurous. Imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>my dad owned a construction company, and that's how I

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<v Speaker 1>got into trucks because I started learning equipment. And I

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<v Speaker 1>always said, I'm kind of the other boy that he

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<v Speaker 1>never had. She's got an older brother, but ever since

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<v Speaker 1>she was young, when her mother hoped that she would

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<v Speaker 1>have stayed in frills and dresses, she was much happier

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<v Speaker 1>playing in the dirt and riding along with her dad

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<v Speaker 1>on the job. The philosophy he instilled in her as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid is something that she still lives by today.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you know, there is nothing that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do if you want to do it. She wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>drive big trucks, so at sixteen, in high school, she

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<v Speaker 1>got her permit and started driving dump trucks with her

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<v Speaker 1>dad's company. At eighteen, she moved on to bigger rigs

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<v Speaker 1>and was hauling asphalt. I get out of high school

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, oh yeah, I'm eighteen. I'm going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to road. He's like, you get an education

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll talk. If you want to trump, you

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<v Speaker 1>get to school. School was not Ingrid's thing, so she

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<v Speaker 1>reluctantly went to college and got her degree in engineering,

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<v Speaker 1>and she eventually got hired to do just that. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to build roads. I was gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>sicker career. They put me on five in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm I'm doing construction engineer and inspection

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<v Speaker 1>and bridges and all this stuff. And I kept watching

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<v Speaker 1>trucks go up throad and down the road. What were

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<v Speaker 1>you thinking when you saw those trucks driving by? What

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<v Speaker 1>am I doing? So Ingrid went trucking. Her first big

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<v Speaker 1>hall was from North Carolina all the way to California.

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<v Speaker 1>That first feeling, it almost is so much adrenaline. I

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<v Speaker 1>was scared to dance and then you don't want to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>Her love for dirt as a kid translated directly to trucking.

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<v Speaker 1>She took lots of jobs where she'd be hauling it

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<v Speaker 1>all of the place. They call me mud puppy. No,

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<v Speaker 1>give me asphalt, Give me dirt. There's so much can

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<v Speaker 1>be done with it, and there's there's things that bridges

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<v Speaker 1>and and roads. There's a way to get that done

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<v Speaker 1>and get that to happen. Her love for dirt may

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<v Speaker 1>seem extreme, but she gets pretty romantic when talking about

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<v Speaker 1>anything that she's hauling. I do, I do. I have

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<v Speaker 1>this passion because you know what, they mean something to me,

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<v Speaker 1>because they mean something to people. This is the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've ever dreamed I could ever do. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have dirt, what are you going to build upon?

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<v Speaker 1>Trucking is a way of life as much as it's

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<v Speaker 1>a job. Just like a long haul from the East

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<v Speaker 1>to West coast, being a professional driver as a career

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<v Speaker 1>takes stamina. How many miles Hi fourties plus years? I

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<v Speaker 1>have four point one million, four point one million miles.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I have gentlemen and ladies that I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>up in the sixes. To put that in perspective, Ingrid

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<v Speaker 1>has driven enough to circle the globe about one sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four times. I asked her if she had a goal

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<v Speaker 1>she was trying to hit, maybe get the six million,

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<v Speaker 1>But she said no, because you know what, three years

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<v Speaker 1>ago I was diagnosed with melano with cancer. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a third of my throat out, I've had several surgeries.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing. Today, All that matters is today.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Besides doing this job because she loves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Her philosophy is it's something that has to be done,

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<v Speaker 1>and she says a lot of drivers feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>Some do it for the freedom, some do it because

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<v Speaker 1>it can be great money. But she says, the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that succeed and enjoy their work are the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>recognize the importance of their job. People need you, people

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<v Speaker 1>need us, but we need them as well. I asked

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<v Speaker 1>how it felt to be an essential worker in a

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<v Speaker 1>time where the country especially needs her to keep driving,

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<v Speaker 1>even when she's realistically putting herself at risk by doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would want to do that, whether it's a pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>whether the country is closed down because people have to

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<v Speaker 1>eat every day. That's not going to change. That didn't

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<v Speaker 1>change before, It hasn't changed afterwards. Talking to Ingrid, you

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<v Speaker 1>might get kind of jealous. There's a sense of purpose

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<v Speaker 1>in everything she says about a job she's been doing

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<v Speaker 1>for forty years. And if you've ever been on a

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<v Speaker 1>long drive with nothing but the road ahead, that sense

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<v Speaker 1>of freedom. She does that for a living. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>she remembers the first time she really felt it. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>never forget it. I was coming down the road and

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually coming eastbound. It was the early nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just outside Fort Worth, Texas on a long haul.

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<v Speaker 1>It was barely breaking daylight, barely barely enough that I

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<v Speaker 1>could see the white lines to my left. But in

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<v Speaker 1>my mirror I could watch him go by, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was almost like the whole world wasn't he didn't even exist.

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<v Speaker 1>The sun was in front of me, it was was

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, but behind me was just that little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of haze. If it was the most peaceful time in

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<v Speaker 1>my whole career, the whole world of stops. Nothing ad exists,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody has problems, nothing bad in this whole wide world exists.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just in that spot. You're succeeding, and you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just you're you know you're you're accomplishing. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like. Yeah, in my own experience, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>chasing this feeling for a while. I felt it years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and I got hooked. So I've tried to make

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<v Speaker 1>a career where I can work and constantly be moving, exploring,

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<v Speaker 1>And for the most part, I got there before COVID hit.

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<v Speaker 1>I was traveling the country for months doing radio work

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<v Speaker 1>in a new place whenever I wanted to be. It

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<v Speaker 1>was about as liberated as I've ever felt. That feeling

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<v Speaker 1>is the reason a lot of people get into trucking too.

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<v Speaker 1>You're autonomous, you're free hand out the window with the

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<v Speaker 1>open road ahead. A cowboy. It's a romantic way to live,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've learned that that does not come without a price.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of time where I really especially if

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on the road for months, I really crave roots,

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<v Speaker 1>stability home. I guess the grass is always greener kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Do you feel that? Yeah? Sorry, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this is life. This is life. I haven't seen my

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<v Speaker 1>grand babies, uh since before Christmas, and uh I was

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<v Speaker 1>pointing on seeing them at the time that the COVID

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<v Speaker 1>stuff happened. Um. Sorry, it's um, they're my world. We

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<v Speaker 1>face time all the time. Um, it's still not the same.

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<v Speaker 1>You such your priorities and uh sometimes you missed some

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<v Speaker 1>of those. But you make sure that they're in this

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<v Speaker 1>industry with you enough to understand Ingrid also has an

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight year old mother, just two daughters of her own.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows she has to keep doing her job, but

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<v Speaker 1>she also knows in doing so, she won't risk carrying

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<v Speaker 1>COVID back to her family. Recently, she was at a

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<v Speaker 1>truck stop and called her grandkids to check in. My

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<v Speaker 1>grandson was standing there on FaceTime and said, Grammy, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you coming to see? Uh, Grammy, it's been too long.

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<v Speaker 1>And my granddaughter, my four year old granddaughter, literally turned

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<v Speaker 1>around and looked at him and said, Layton, Grammy livering

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<v Speaker 1>food to other people? Wow? How does that feel for

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<v Speaker 1>you to hear they get it? You know? A mr birthday?

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<v Speaker 1>I missed his birthday, and it is it is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is for the fact of the situation in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>But we make the best of it, just like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else is doing the same thing. We all want a

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<v Speaker 1>job that puts food on the table. We want a

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<v Speaker 1>job that we can be good at. But maybe more

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<v Speaker 1>than anything, deep down, we want work that makes us

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<v Speaker 1>happy and gives us purpose being the person that does

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<v Speaker 1>what needs to be done. People will always have to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>and whether or not it's a time of crisis, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're the person making that happen, like Ingrid, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, you can be sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>are essential. And when a four year old says taking

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<v Speaker 1>food to other people, that's pretty strong. That must keep

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<v Speaker 1>you going every day from the job a motus Gray,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening to on the job brought to you

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<v Speaker 1>by Express Employment Professionals. To see pictures of Ingrid's truck

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<v Speaker 1>by Metus Gray. Our executive producer is Sandy Smallens. The

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