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Speaker 1: It's victory Monday, October thirtieth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. The first Hour

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Speaker 2: Pete Prisco coming up, Tony Pastelli a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: We're at the Hundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center

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Speaker 2: in Jacksonville. On ten tex LAM, Jaguars dot Com and

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Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube coming up. A recap of Jaguars twenty, Steelers

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Speaker 2: ten and now five straight wins for the Jags in

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Speaker 2: five different stadiums in four different cities over a seven

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Speaker 2: time zone stretch. What a run for the jag now

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Speaker 2: tied for the best record in the AFC. The bye

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Speaker 2: week ahead, we'll keep it real fanatics, fan questions, and

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot of show ahead.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Doug Peterson, Jaguars head coach, after the game, happy with

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Speaker 2: where they are going into the week nine bye week.

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Speaker 2: I told the team.

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Speaker 5: You know, the first half of the season, these first

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Speaker 5: eight games, I think, you know, with all the travel

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Speaker 5: and Thursday games and in and out of hotels and

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Speaker 5: different things like that, the guys have really handled it

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Speaker 5: extremely well. Proud of the guys for doing that, and

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Speaker 5: really excited to be you know, six and two at

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Speaker 5: the buy.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome in the CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco

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Speaker 2: Tony BISSELLI will join us a little later in the

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Speaker 2: program tonight. Some other things going on early today, Pete,

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Speaker 2: what a win for the Jags. They go up to Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: they punch them in the mouth and get the job done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what JP that was. It was a

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Speaker 3: better win than the score would indicate because they had

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Speaker 3: issues at certain times. You know, Trey Herndon gets it,

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Speaker 3: which he would have had if he holds onto the football,

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Speaker 3: if Trevor Lawrence doesn't make that terrible, terrible throw, And

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell he was doing on

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Speaker 3: that play. There was nobody he could have checked it down,

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Speaker 3: maybe the ETN in the middle of the field and

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Speaker 3: lived another day. But I don't know what he was

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Speaker 3: doing there. That was so unlike him. And there were

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Speaker 3: just little things that kind of prevented them from from

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Speaker 3: being up more than what they were, and they dominated

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Speaker 3: that game. That's not a good Pittsburgh team. Mike Tomlins

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Speaker 3: got the best out of them, but they are not

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Speaker 3: a great Pittsburgh team. And so yeah, that's a good

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Speaker 3: win though. You go up there on a Sunday, you know,

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Speaker 3: when the last game before the bye, and you get

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Speaker 3: that victory.

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Speaker 2: That's impressive for them, certainly is on top of the

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Speaker 2: previous four as well. And now the entire idea of

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Speaker 2: this season has turned back to what we were thinking

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Speaker 2: going into the season. The Jaguars are right there. They

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Speaker 2: are tied for the best record in the AFCPT as

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Speaker 2: it stands today. If it ended today and it never does,

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Speaker 2: they would be the number three seed in the AFC playoffs.

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Speaker 2: A lot of big games coming up, of course, but

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Speaker 2: they're right there in the mix.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And again now you get to buy and you get

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Speaker 3: to sit back, and then you come off your by

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Speaker 3: and you have two home games, and one of them

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Speaker 3: anybody anymore. I mean that's two games in a row

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Speaker 3: where they've given up a boatload of yards throwing and

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Speaker 3: they come in there, and then you get who's in

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Speaker 3: one after the Ravens right after that?

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Speaker 2: Is that who it is?

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Speaker 3: No, I got that schedule wrong.

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Speaker 2: And Titans. Of course the Titans.

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Speaker 3: So and Will Levis was outstanding on Sunday, and I'm

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Speaker 3: a big Will Levis guy, and I think you'll end

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Speaker 3: up being their quarterback. But you're again you're facing a

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Speaker 3: So again, the schedule, I thought before the season, the

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Speaker 3: had no business losing that game, I don't think. So

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Speaker 3: you look, you'd be sitting with the best record time,

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Speaker 3: playing well. But let's be real, JP, Yeah, that that

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Speaker 2: And you remember after that game, I mean, Doug Peterson

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Speaker 2: Show the next week, it was a lot of bs

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Speaker 2: won't find that out until things are, you know, down

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Speaker 2: turning point of the season, then hey, that they had

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Speaker 2: to get away to, you know, get closer to each

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Speaker 3: End of that, that's Tony's Tony don't buy it.

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Speaker 2: But I mean that we'll find out. I mean, I'm curious,

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Speaker 2: and everything that comes with it, what that actually was

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Speaker 2: That Texans game could be the turning point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again sometimes you have a game like that

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Speaker 3: and just kind of galvanize the whole team. They had

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Speaker 3: a lot of mistakes. Remember that game was all full

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Speaker 3: of mistakes, busts and coverages, and and receivers weren't sitting

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Speaker 3: think there were a lot of things that play and

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Speaker 3: And I think that's where they are right now. And

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Speaker 3: this is, you know, despite what some of the outside say,

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Speaker 3: it's a good football team. And I don't think they've

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Speaker 3: come close to playing as well as they can on offense.

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Speaker 3: I just don't it's not And I was I watched

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Speaker 3: the tape today JP and I'll talk a little bit

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Speaker 3: don't think they're right. They're quite there yet. In fact,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of things you look at and you go, Okay,

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Speaker 3: what's missing, And we'll get into that later on if

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Speaker 3: you want to. But I just I just look at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that, and just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the Jaguars offense, they've had some injuries on

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Speaker 2: Two starting players and the secondary were out. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Tyson Campbell did not play. Andre Cisco was a scratch

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Speaker 2: Monterrey Brown at corner again, Andrew Winger comes in at safety.

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Speaker 2: Darius Williams has three more passes defensed. On the other side,

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Speaker 2: Trey Herndon was in the stat book again. Hey guess what.

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Speaker 2: The secondary stood up tall again and played big and

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned it. Winger was outstanding on Sunday. You know,

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago we used to I did,

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Speaker 3: I'd criticize him, but didn't think he was that good.

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Speaker 3: In the last year and a half when he's been

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Speaker 3: on the field, he's become a different player. And the

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Speaker 3: interception he had, he was on the right hash and

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Speaker 3: went clear across the field to make the interception and

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Speaker 3: he never saw him, you know, Tramiski never saw him.

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Speaker 3: It was just a really good read the eyes of

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Speaker 3: the quarterback not being threatened in my area, so I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go there and go attack it and go get

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Speaker 3: the football. It was a great play. But he made

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Speaker 3: a lot of plays in the run game as well.

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Speaker 3: He was active, and he's a good guy to have

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Speaker 3: in in some dime packages as well. He played really well.

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Speaker 3: Darius Williams is playing at a Pro Bowl level, period,

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Speaker 3: end of story. He's been one of the better quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: in the league so far this year. Should have had

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Speaker 3: an interception, dropped it, but really playing good, smart, tough football.

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Speaker 3: And then Trey Herndon should have had to pick six.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was a whole nother story that game.

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Speaker 3: That game is in a whole different feel to him

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Speaker 3: if he gets that one. But all in all, and

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Speaker 3: Brown didn't play as well this week as he did

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Speaker 3: a week ago. He gave up the touchdown to Pickens

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Speaker 3: and didn't play as well. But it wasn't a liability.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't like he was a disaster out there either.

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Speaker 3: And so add it all up, when Campbell comes back

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Speaker 3: we didn't think it would be. They they've they've made

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Speaker 3: a lot of people eat their words about that secondary,

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Speaker 2: We'll dig deep into the defense up, especially on the

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Speaker 2: defensive line, and some reasons why they've been so good

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Speaker 3: Was funny real quick though. Back to the secondary JP yep,

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Speaker 3: the opening play of the play of the game against

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Speaker 3: the defense. What happens if he hits Deontay Johns wide

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Speaker 3: open in the middle of the Probably he probably should

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Speaker 3: have caught it. It wasn't a great throw, but he should

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Speaker 3: He threw it behind him. You know, you wonder what

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Speaker 3: happens if those passes get hit, you know, if they

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Speaker 3: hit those because those wide open guys they got they

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Speaker 3: busted on. The one was a pick in the end zone,

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Speaker 3: he got picked Monterrek Brown got picked off. He had

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Speaker 3: no chance. And then one in the middle field was

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Speaker 3: just a bust of coverage.

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Speaker 2: That can happen from time to time. We've seen that before.

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Speaker 2: Certainly we'll get to deeper on this defense. As we said,

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Speaker 2: including the pass rush, the Jaguars got home three times

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Speaker 2: for sacks, two of the from Josh Allen yesterday Pete

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Speaker 2: one of those from Trayvon Walker, and he pushed the

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Speaker 3: And you show you saw his power and we know

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Speaker 3: he has power. He does that move all the time.

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Speaker 3: He just gets into the midsection of the defensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: On that play, I mean the offensive lineman he had,

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Speaker 3: he just ran him over. The guy couldn't hold up

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Speaker 3: against him. Again though, the problem is the pass rush moves.

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Speaker 3: There was one play where he actually got a pressure

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Speaker 3: and I thought there's progress. So it was better, much better.

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Speaker 3: How did they credit those sacks, because when you watch

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Speaker 3: him on the film, did they credit Josh Allen with two?

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Speaker 2: They did credit Josh Allen with two full sacks and

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Speaker 3: Looked like Roy Robertson Harris was right there.

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Speaker 3: Get why they didn't. I get why they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta go prove it, right, and he is

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we were an empty and I don't think I

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Speaker 2: That's the quarterback Trevor Lawrence, of course, discussing the fifty

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Speaker 2: on Victory Monday. JP Shadrick Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior Writer,

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Speaker 2: and I believe that the Hall of Famer has entered

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Speaker 2: the chat. Tony, he's in a car. Where are you, Tony?

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Speaker 4: I mean I'm in San Francisco, Northern California. What do

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Speaker 4: you mean, sort of, Pete? I was getting phone calls.

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Speaker 4: I was in a meeting and I'm getting phone calls. Yes,

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Speaker 4: he's joined the shot. Pete is awful by himself.

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Speaker 3: You know what I did radio by myself for a

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Speaker 3: hawfull A and B. You were trying to make a

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Speaker 2: Up before you get unbelievable, so bad, JP, so bad.

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Speaker 3: A joke didn't.

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Speaker 2: Didn't it didn't hit And the screen is the wrong way, Tony.

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Speaker 2: It's everything's all wrong about that. That's great.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you look like you're in a desert or something.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't look like it. Where are where is Are you

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Speaker 4: I'm outside San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you look like you're in a desert or something.

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Speaker 4: I'm not in a desert. I'm driving from call it

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, hey, let's let's get into the

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Speaker 3: It's watching him on that his car shaking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not driving, are you, Tony?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not driving.

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Speaker 2: I'm a passenger, relaxed, making sure.

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Speaker 3: I feel sorry for the driver by the way, yea,

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Speaker 4: He just he just got them listening to me for

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Speaker 3: And I used to listen for Well, if you're going

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Speaker 3: for pell you're going for Palo Alto to San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: The show will be over by the Zan Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be sitting in traffic.

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Speaker 4: There's zero traffic. We're gonna be back in thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's doubtful. Hey, Trevor Lawrence highs and lows yesterday right

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Speaker 2: just heard him talking about that play to Travis Etn

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Speaker 3: Well, the game should have been over long before that. A. B.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what Trevor Lawrence was even seeing that

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Speaker 2: He said.

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Speaker 3: It was just not terrible.

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Speaker 2: He said after the game he was trying to hit Ridley.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't no one just to give up on a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that one, I didn't That one, I didn't understand

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Speaker 3: wasn't that first down?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna have a hard time being too critical

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I'm not I'm just saying there are the

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Speaker 3: reason I say that, Tony. No, there is so much

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to say. I don't think. I

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Speaker 4: I would agree with you. I would agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love seeing that play at n down

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Speaker 3: Look, he played really good football. He's been playing really

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Speaker 3: you watch a tape on your way to San Francisco,

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Speaker 3: it was it was. It wasn't great in pass protection.

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Speaker 4: Again, yeah, I didn't have access to it yet to

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Speaker 4: watch it later. So watching it live, I thought overall

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Speaker 4: And I thought outside of you know, they left Anton

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Speaker 3: He threw to the ground a bunch of times, and

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Speaker 3: He got away with about three holds. I mean, blake,

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Speaker 3: I loved it. But yeah, he got away with a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he played. I thought he played.

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Speaker 3: I think says you know that Shatley has problems in

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Speaker 4: Yep. I thought they played physical there. They were tough.

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Speaker 3: And the tight end, the rookie tight end. For the

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Speaker 3: He's blasting people. He comes, he pulls, he gets in

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Speaker 3: And he was hitting people on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: And how good's Evan.

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Speaker 2: Ingram Ten targets, ten catches, eighty eight yards. He did

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Speaker 2: lose one, but hey, the perfect day in terms of

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Speaker 2: catching him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he played, He played well, and you know, the

439
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Speaker 3: play call and I thought was better. You know, they

440
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Speaker 3: probably ran the screen fourteen times, I think, but there

441
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: were thirteen of them. They would have gone the one

442
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Speaker 3: that was knocked down at the line of scrimmage, that

443
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Speaker 3: was going that was gonna go for about thirty five yards.

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Speaker 3: And somebody they asked me all the time, what play?

445
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Speaker 3: What play? What play? Am I going to criticize on

446
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Speaker 3: Sunday the fans, I was going to criticize the shovel pass,

447
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Speaker 3: But after watching the tape, the shovel pass might have

448
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Speaker 3: gone for about twenty five yards. If sheriff makes his block,

449
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Speaker 3: Oh I had to do get in front of the

450
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Speaker 3: guy and make your block. It goes for twenty five

451
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Speaker 3: It was a crack and a crease and he didn't

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Speaker 3: he didn't make his block. Otherwise that's a big light,

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Speaker 3: so I can't really criticize. I didn't love it. I

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Speaker 3: don't like inside shovel passes to the tight end like that,

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Speaker 3: but I didn't mind it after watching it. So I

456
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Speaker 3: really didn't have any There were no bad decisions, nothing

457
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Speaker 3: really to criticize. For the first time, I come out

458
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Speaker 3: of the game and I left there thinking, Okay, there

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Speaker 3: were no bonehead decisions to criticis.

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Speaker 2: Well they didn't. They didn't go far and fourth down

461
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Speaker 2: either Pete in the game, so it was well, there

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 3: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 2: They kicked field goals all day.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I'm sure Doug's sleeping much better this week

466
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Speaker 4: knowing that you didn't criticize them.

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Speaker 3: Pete, Well, he's got a buye a week. He doesn't

468
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Speaker 3: have me on his back, and it's all good. And

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Speaker 3: he six to two, right, what's what's not to like

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Speaker 3: about it?

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Speaker 2: Hey? By the way, the last time the Jaguars were

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Speaker 2: this good was nineteen ninety nine, when they were seven

473
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Speaker 2: and one through eight games. They were six and two

474
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Speaker 2: also in nineteen ninety eight. Those are the two best

475
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Speaker 2: starts through eight games until this year when the Jags

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Speaker 2: are six and two. You guys are both a part

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Speaker 2: of those teams. Ninety nine. Well, Pete, you were.

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Speaker 3: Covering ninety nine team was special, really special. Should have

479
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Speaker 3: been the champs. Gagged what should have been the champs. Thanks,

480
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Speaker 3: but you were the best team. You would have beat

481
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Speaker 3: the Rams. You were the best team.

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Speaker 4: I didn't say anything, but I didn't want. I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to forget about that.

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Speaker 3: You know what people forget about the ninety nine team.

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Speaker 3: That defense was the number one ranked defense in the

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Speaker 3: league that year. They forget that it was it was

487
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Speaker 3: really good. Well, I mean, this defense is playing well,

488
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Speaker 3: but in the number one ranked defense in the league.

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Speaker 3: So to compare the two is not fair because that

490
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Speaker 3: team was veteran team had more talent, more star talent,

491
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Speaker 3: at least I thought it did. But this team is

492
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Speaker 3: where I thought it would be, if not maybe one

493
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Speaker 3: game behind where I thought they would be at this

494
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Speaker 3: point the season, Fay have a.

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Speaker 4: Chance to get your thirteen and four.

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Speaker 3: Still, Pete, you do well, particularly you know you're in

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Speaker 3: San Francisco. All of a sudden, I can't imagine what

498
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Speaker 3: they're saying about the forty nine ers out there and

499
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Speaker 3: they play them next week, and we're all talking about

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Speaker 3: perty either we're talking about that defense.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what the sentiment in San Francisco

502
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Speaker 4: is about forty nine ers. My good friend at Business

503
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 4: Partners sitting right next to me asking me if it

504
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Speaker 4: should bench brock Per He was the problem. That's how

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Speaker 4: they feel about it right now.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, tell your business partner, maybe they

507
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Speaker 3: should betch the defensive players. They look at the look

508
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: at the look at they give it up, like what

509
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Speaker 3: six hundred something yards the last two weeks and three

510
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Speaker 3: touchdowns and four touchdowns and one pick? What do they do? Win?

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Speaker 4: Is it? Steve Wilkes, Pete.

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Speaker 3: You know somebody made a point to me yesterday. Steve

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Speaker 3: Wilkes sits upstairs. Robert Salah and Demico Ryans were on

514
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Speaker 3: the field banging it, you know how the motion of

515
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Speaker 3: it hitting guy. You know they kind of took fed

516
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Speaker 3: off of that. I wonder if there's a big disconnect

517
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Speaker 3: with that now. You know, you got to think about

518
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Speaker 3: that something. I mean, because that defense always seemed like

519
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: they cut it to twenty four to seventeen Sunday and

520
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: the Bengals get the ball and you're sitting here going okay,

521
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Speaker 3: well this is where the defense gets his sack, gets

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Speaker 3: the ball back, they go down and get his gore.

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Speaker 3: Noe Joe Burrow, big big, big, big bang, right down

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Speaker 3: the field. Game over.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's come back. We got plenty of head. We'll

526
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Speaker 2: get into the Jaguars defense and where they rank and

527
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Speaker 2: other things we'll hear from. Andrew Wingert coming up as well.

528
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Speaker 2: He had plenty to say after the game in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear no one complaining. I don't

538
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Speaker 3: to hear no one complaining in the comments about the Jags.

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Speaker 3: Days were six and two.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: So he said, doll, Hey, hey, that's a little dollar.

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Speaker 3: We don't listen to nobody, Nobody we are nobody. Hey,

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Speaker 3: go out, have a hopey fans. We'll hope he would have.

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Speaker 2: Came in here and put up a better mine. Well,

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Speaker 2: there you have it. Courtesy of Actions for Jacks Print

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Speaker 2: Martineau with the interview Andrew Wingard on the field after

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Speaker 2: the game, Ray Shawn Jenkins, Boy Jaguars got it done

548
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Speaker 2: twenty to ten over the steam The Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 2: M Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube. Tony was selling out.

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Speaker 2: He'll be back with us in just a little bit

552
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Speaker 2: when he gets settled. Pete Prisco alongside j P. Shadwick

553
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: with you and Pete. That defense starting to talk a

554
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 2: little bit. Right after a game like that, the confidence

555
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: is there, and and we touched on the secondary earlier.

556
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: Let's let's get in the trenches now and this defensive line.

557
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Speaker 2: Devon Hamilton was back. How did he look on tape?

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Speaker 3: First of all, rusty, He looked a little rusty. I mean,

559
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Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I understand it. You know what,

560
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: he looks a little lean almost JP. Maybe he didn't

561
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Speaker 3: get the lift as much when he had the back

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Speaker 3: injury or something. But but he'll be fine. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there was a couple plays where he puts. Did he

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Speaker 3: get on the statue? Did he show up with the statue?

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember if.

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Speaker 2: He defense, I don't remember.

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Speaker 3: He didn't play a lot of snaps.

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Speaker 2: Right, Uh, Hamilton is not on there?

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Speaker 3: Nope, Yeah, yeah he I mean he didn't play a

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Speaker 3: lot of snaps, so I don't know how many listen playing.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, defense, Hamilton played fourteen sat Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's it's gonna take. It's a little prop

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Speaker 3: you know, process for him. But I do think getting

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Speaker 3: him back is important because he's such a good run player.

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Speaker 3: When he is on the field, I think he can

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Speaker 3: push a little bit inside. So it's good to see

577
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Speaker 3: him back on the field. I thought, you know, when

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Speaker 3: I watched tape, I thought Roy Robertson Harris played well.

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Speaker 3: You know, Fonocossi's been playing solid. Blaxon wasn't as good

580
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Speaker 3: as he was a week ago, but he was okay.

581
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Speaker 3: Gossis made some plays on defense, so they were a

582
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Speaker 3: good trader made a couple of plays. Still not great

583
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Speaker 3: rush in the past, but he made plays. And Josh

584
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Speaker 3: Allen was phenomenal up front, one of the most improved

585
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Speaker 3: players by the way of that team. I said it

586
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Speaker 3: last week. I'll say Devin Lloyd again. Mail. I don't

587
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Speaker 3: know how many tackles he was credited with, but he

588
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Speaker 3: was pretty much all over the field.

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Speaker 2: Nine combined tackles, seven solos and one pass defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. He played well. He played well, and

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Speaker 3: that's a good linebacker group. So I don't think they

592
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Speaker 3: are a dominant, dominant defense, but they're a good defense

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Speaker 3: right now. And Mike callwell, let's give him a lot

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Speaker 3: of credit. I wasn't sure about this defense, and I

595
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Speaker 3: think they've overachieved it a big way.

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Speaker 2: Fourth in the league now against the run. I think

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Speaker 2: they're fifth on third downs top ten and scoring number

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Speaker 2: one and takeaways that that adds up to some pretty

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Speaker 2: good winning results for a defense that is, you know,

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Speaker 2: going into the game, that was the question they asked

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Speaker 2: forwards Pickings is why is the Jaguars pass defense so ineffective?

602
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: And that was that's what got him into the the

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Speaker 2: A little bit of trouble with the words the Hope

604
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: defense and all that stuff. But the Jaguars are thirty

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Speaker 2: first and passing yards, but Pete, they're twelfth in the league.

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Speaker 2: And passing yards per play, I mean they are overall

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Speaker 2: playing well. All of those yards come late garbage time

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Speaker 2: and the like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And and the other thing the takeaways. What should

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Speaker 3: they have had two more yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, absolutely, they had two.

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Speaker 3: They should have They should have they should have twenty yep.

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Speaker 3: And that's you know, when you take it. And that's

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Speaker 3: how they kind of made their run last year was

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Speaker 3: they started taking the ball away. And when you take

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Speaker 3: the ball away and don't turn the ball over, you're

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Speaker 3: going to be in in a lot of games and

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Speaker 3: not win them, no matter who you're playing. So that

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Speaker 3: that's an important thing for them. It's interesting because we

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Speaker 3: sit here at least I do and talk about the

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Speaker 3: pass rush to pass rush to pass rush, right, Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen's done his thing. Normally, if you start getting concerned

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Speaker 3: about the pass rush being as good as it can be,

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Speaker 3: you're not getting the takeaways. Well they are, and I

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Speaker 3: think that's a very telling sign about how active the

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Speaker 3: secondary has been this year. And I can go back

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Speaker 3: to the winger play on Sunday, I mean that that's

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Speaker 3: that's just eyes on the quarterback not being threatened in

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Speaker 3: your zone. I'm gonna jump this and go over here.

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Speaker 3: He had not There wasn't a person in his area,

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Speaker 3: so he could be that aggressive and make that play.

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Speaker 3: And he read his eyes and went over there and

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Speaker 3: made the play, and it was that was a big,

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Speaker 3: big boy safety play. That's what that was. You know,

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Speaker 3: you see it all the time in the NFL. Read

636
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Speaker 3: the quarterback's eyes, jump the route, get there, pick it

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Speaker 3: off and make a play. And he did that. And

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Speaker 3: you know they've been making plays like that all year

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Speaker 3: in the secondary.

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Speaker 2: So the Jaguars, Pete, would you say, are they still

641
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Speaker 2: needing to go get somebody or can they? Can they

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Speaker 2: run the rest of the way with what they have

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Speaker 2: right now, considering the guy's back. That's kind of what

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Speaker 2: we heard from Doug Peterson. That was kind of the

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Speaker 2: tone today. Hey, some of these guys could be back.

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Speaker 2: Let's see how they play.

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Speaker 3: Are they talking about who could be back.

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Speaker 2: At Hamilton and smooth? Right? Those are the guys that recently.

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Speaker 3: They're back and they're not still not rushing the pastor

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Speaker 3: the way you need to be a star studed team.

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Speaker 2: Can they elevate that as it goes along? It's a

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Speaker 2: big question. You only have tomorrow to figure it out.

653
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Speaker 2: If you if you don't know by now, you probably

654
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: don't know.

655
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Speaker 3: I knows around JP, I'd still try and add a pair. Look,

656
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: I think this team has a chance to do something special.

657
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: They can win the whole damn thing. Okay, they can,

658
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: So why hold yourself back from exploring the possibility of

659
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: giving up a draft pick to go get a guy

660
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: who can help your team. Here's one Derek Barnett supposedly

661
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: on the market. If Derek Barnett is on the market,

662
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson knows Derek Barnett, right, Yeah, so they're they're

663
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: you know, Montese Sweat and Chase Young might be available

664
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Speaker 3: because Washington's in the tank. Here's the problem. I think

665
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: there are three draft picks this year, two, three, and

666
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: four are all tied to the Ridley trade.

667
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: Right, all of them. Yep. You gotta be careful with those.

668
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 3: I don't think you can. You can't trade those. So

669
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Speaker 3: since they're all tight, so you're gonna have to trade

670
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Speaker 3: a future pick. Now, if you're Washington, for example, and

671
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: you lose Chase Young and free agency or Montes Sweat

672
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: and free agency, you're gonna get a three back. So

673
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: you're your bare minimum. You're gonna say, okay, I'll take

674
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: a three and twenty four and something I mean in

675
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: twenty five and something else in twenty four to get

676
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: the guy like that. But if you're gonna make the

677
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: run and the push, okay, let's look at Seattle. Look

678
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: what Seattle did today. Seattle wasn't happy where their interior,

679
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: their defensive line was. So then when I got Leonard Williams,

680
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: they're ready. They think they're gonna go make a push

681
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: for the playoffs. And once you get in the postseason,

682
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: anything can happen. So why not now Jacksonville needs I

683
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: think if I'm Jacksonville and I'm Trent Balky, I'd add

684
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: an edge rusher if I could, somehow, some way, I'd

685
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: add an edge rusher. You can never have enough of

686
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 3: those guys.

687
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. They're gonna do it by four

688
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: o'clock tomorrow. That's the trade deadline. And is there anything

689
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: else you would go pick up on defensive.

690
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: Look at depending on what's up with Za Jones. That

691
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: worries me a little bit.

692
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a weird one because I think he's finished

693
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: one game. Pete. If I'm not mistaken. He's come out

694
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: of some other two and then was inactive and out

695
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: for the rest of them.

696
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: So and and does he have a knee injury now, yes, yes,

697
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: that is yeah, And so they listed him week to week.

698
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: I think, isn't that right? And you know, I'm concerned

699
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: about him because they need him on the field because

700
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: he was not on the field.

701
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he opens up everything else.

702
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: Pete and who who is on the field if he's

703
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: not on the field? Agnew?

704
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: Tim Jones? Huh, Tim Jones are Agnew? Yeah?

705
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Speaker 3: And Tim Jones by the way, we'll block that he

706
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: does block, but need a you need another? Do you

707
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: explore that a veteran receiver? Maybe if Zay Jones is

708
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: hurt to the point where he can't go. Now, we

709
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 3: don't know that, but they got.

710
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: To check that.

711
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: I think they would know that, maybe have an idea

712
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: where he is, you know, now and tomorrow and then

713
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: if you can look around and see if you can

714
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: make a move for a wide receiver. Now, who's out

715
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: there that that remains to be seen. But you know,

716
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: you thought Hopkins might be out there. They would never

717
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: trade him to Jacksonville, but you thought he might be

718
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: out there. But he doesn't run that they need. They

719
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: need a speed guy. That's what they're lacking, you know,

720
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: that's what they're lacking.

721
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Speaker 2: And I mean, Zay is so good along the boundary.

722
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: He's already had two catches this year touchdowns that are

723
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: just incredible, the Colts game up there week one, where

724
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: he's on the side of the end zone and then

725
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: in the London game, the second London game in Buffalo,

726
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: the back of the end zone to tap it under

727
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: the crossbar. I mean, that's that kind of stuff you

728
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: don't find every day.

729
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: And they can use ingram more. I get it. I

730
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: understand that, but you still need that third receiver, and

731
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 3: I don't think what they have gives them a real

732
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: threat as a third receiver. You can gimmick up some

733
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: stuff for Agnew, but it's not a real threat.

734
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Speaker 2: There plenty more ahead. We'll come back in a moment, Pete.

735
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: We always do like the AFC South rankings, but considering

736
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 2: the Jags are what two and a half games ahead

737
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: of everybody right now, we're gonna do the AFC Power rankings.

738
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Speaker 3: Wow, we're really adjusting on the fly. Huh.

739
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going big. Yeah, that's really going out blazing

740
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: a trail here on this one. When we come back,

741
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: since I.

742
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: Do those every week at CBS.

743
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: We'll just copy years from the other day.

744
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: If I haven't ton them yet, we'll do it.

745
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: Right here first. As Pete Frisco, I'm JP Shadwick Tony

746
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: Boselli coming up in a little bit as well. And

747
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Speaker 2: if you're looking for the MVP of the truck game,

748
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Speaker 2: look no further than Ford F one fifty. Loaded with

749
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Speaker 2: impressive capability and designed to dominate work play and everything

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Speaker 2: in between. Truck makes tough look easy, your local four dealer,

751
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Speaker 2: proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars and a Jaguars Happy

752
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

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00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 7: As a as a competitor, you always look for something

754
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 7: to just motivate you to play a game, and I

755
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 7: still like for me, I just kind of went to

756
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 7: have a place to where flight the students could have

757
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 7: dropped me, they didn't, so I just wanted to come

758
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 7: out here first time in the stadium, just shown with

759
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 7: it was missing out on wine and just kind of

760
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 7: glad there and make place to win a game.

761
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Speaker 2: It's Travis et and Junior Jaguars running back selected one

762
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Speaker 2: pick after Naji Harris Steelers running back and it's Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Happy Hour. JP Shadwick with CBS Sports senior writer Pete

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Speaker 2: Prisco Tony BISSELLI will be back with us in just

765
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Speaker 2: a little bit. Love that kind of stuff.

766
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Speaker 3: See funny, it's funny how the chip these guys carry

767
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 3: these chips around, Right, they didn't pick me. I'm gonna

768
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: make him pay.

769
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Speaker 2: For it, you know, whatever it takes, right.

770
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Speaker 3: I mean, are you happy they didn't pick you? In

771
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: your playing in Jacksonville rather than in Pittsburgh. I mean

772
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 3: he should be right now.

773
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well not just that.

774
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 3: You get to live in Florida, you know, the state

775
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: income tax. You don't live in Pittsburgh. You live in Jacksonville.

776
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Speaker 2: Much better, big difference. It was like eighty two and

777
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Speaker 2: Sonny here all weekend. Nice.

778
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, absolutely, I think I think. Look, he's

779
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: having a phenomenal season.

780
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: He really is. Yeah, third in the league in rushing

781
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: yards now and number one and carry's still and up

782
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: there near the top in scrimmage yards and everything. He's

783
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: you know, he turned that ankle yesterday, but fought back

784
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: after the Bigsby fumbled, came back in the game after

785
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: that and finished it out.

786
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Speaker 3: He is the airback of airbacks. I mean, you know,

787
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: you want that guy who can line up and go

788
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: wide and catch a pass like he did. You want

789
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: a guy who can swing out of the backfield and

790
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: catch the screens like he does, and he can run

791
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: between tackles. I mean, he's he's perfect for the modern game,

792
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: which is exactly what you wanted when you drafted him.

793
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: And his value is great. He's not the most valuable

794
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: player on the team, the quarterback is, obviously, but he's

795
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 3: had a heck of an impact on this season so far.

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Speaker 2: He's a smart player too. I mean, he had to

797
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: work on some things this offseason to improve his game,

798
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: even before the snap and getting the football and everything

799
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: in his running style because he was getting blasted last

800
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: year Pete and just getting blown up all over the place.

801
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: Well remember he was really technically a rookie last year

802
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: playing He didn't he never played the game the year before,

803
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: so I think I think that was an adjustment for him.

804
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: But more than that, I just think his confidence is

805
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: there now. He knows he's good, you know, And and

806
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: when you start thinking you're good, you know you're good,

807
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: You're gonna be good. And I think that's what he

808
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: sees now, Bigsby, that's an issue.

809
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: It's not it's not ideal. I'll say it was an

810
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: issue early in the season. They kind of toned it

811
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Speaker 2: back a little bit, and they finally gave him a

812
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: chance again yesterday and and behold, it's on the ground

813
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: to get Now. It was a close call. However, it

814
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: was not overturned. It was a fumble and there you go.

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Speaker 3: Well, the other thing, he bounces too much. You know,

816
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: he's a big, physical guy. At some point you just

817
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: go and he has a tendency to Now, sometimes it works,

818
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: but he has a tendency to bounce too much and

819
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Speaker 3: maybe miss a four yard gain when he turns it

820
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: into a minus game, you know what I mean. He

821
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 3: gotta sometimes you just gotta go. And I think that's

822
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: the next step for him is learning how to just go.

823
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: Well, just go. You can't be putting the ball on

824
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: the deck anymore either. That's the number one issue.

825
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: And well, yeah, so security.

826
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 2: So where do you go from here at running back

827
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Speaker 2: behind etn If you can't trust Tank to hang on

828
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: to the football, which he can improve at it and

829
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: do all the things. But there's a nine game stretch

830
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: coming up where there's gonna be some big time carries

831
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Speaker 2: in big moments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're gonna need somebody to carry the football

833
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: because you can't give Etn all those carries. So you

834
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: got you got to decide what you're gonna do. I mean,

835
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Speaker 3: do you go to Johnson? I mean, is that is

836
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: that what you do? Do you make him number two?

837
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean, there's the team to Michael Hasty's still here, right, Yeah.

838
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: You don't even he didn't even use him, right.

839
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: No, and Snoop Connors on the practice squad. But that doesn't.

840
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Speaker 3: Say that's not the answer either.

841
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: No. So, but think about what they've drafted at running

842
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: back the last few years, right, I mean Etn, Snoop

843
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: and now Tank three years in a row.

844
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they expected more from Tank at this point in

845
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: the season. They did. They thought he would be come in,

846
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 3: give him ten twelve carries or eleven, you know, ten

847
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: touch twelve touches and be a guy who can get

848
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: you short yardage numbers and that kind of thing. And

849
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 3: hadn't worked out that way. What's his what's his yards

850
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: per attempt on the ground JP for the season. Oh,

851
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 3: let's look it's not pretty.

852
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: Let's look at it. The Jacksonville Jaguars rushing statistics stand

853
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 2: by Tank bigsby two point three yards per carry.

854
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and granted it's not all him. The offensive line

855
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: hadn't been great at times run blocking. But that number

856
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: meets significantly.

857
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: Small sample size. Twenty three carries fifty four yards. He

858
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: scored too, Okay, it.

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00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: Should be twenty three for seventy five. If it's a

860
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: bad you know what I mean, that's it's not good.

861
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: And again, sometimes you just got to hit the hole

862
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: and go. He doesn't do that. And he bounded. He

863
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: was He's a bouncer. That was a reputation at Auburn

864
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 3: is he was a bouncer. So and he's too big

865
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Speaker 3: and physical to be a bouncer all the time.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the AFC standings, Yes, the

867
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: conference standings, because the Jaguars are so far out in

868
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: front right now, knock on wood in the AFC South

869
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: that we look even to bigger fish to fry and Kansas.

870
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: Are you printing playoff tickets already? JP?

871
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: That would mean they have the home field if we are, Yeah,

872
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: that would be nice. Yeah they are not. No, However,

873
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: six and two is a fine start. Let's put it

874
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: that way.

875
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 3: Well, they would be they would have a home playoff.

876
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: Game as a division champ. Correct. So right now, Kansas

877
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: City at six and two. They lost to Denver. They

878
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: are four and one on the conference. Miami six and two,

879
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: also for and one on the conference, but a smaller

880
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: strength of victory and wins. Jacksonville three at six and two,

881
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: at four and two in the conference, Baltimore six and

882
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: two as well. So give us your AFC power rankings,

883
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: if you would please, mister Prisco, I.

884
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: Would still, you know, that's tough. Baltimore would probably be

885
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: in the head of Kansas City right now for me,

886
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: after what happened yesterday.

887
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: He had the flu. Pete didn't he have the flu?

888
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: Mahomes, you're on the field, you're accountable. The rest of

889
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: the team didn't have the flu. They didn't play very well.

890
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: Takes eleven and so I put Baltimore at one. I'd

891
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: probably put I might put Jacksonville at two, even though

892
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: Kansas City beat them, and then Kansas City at three,

893
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: and then or Miami at three and then Kansas City

894
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: maybe somewhere along those lines. And there's certain teams you

895
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: got to keep an eye on. And two of them

896
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: play each other this week. The Bengals, who have seemed

897
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: to have righted things, they played Buffalo at home this week.

898
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 3: That's an enormous game in the AOC. Then there's Miami

899
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: and Kansas City this week. That's an enormous game in

900
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: the APES. And then Baltimore plays Seattle, which is a

901
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: good game. So everybody, Jackson was gonna sit back and

902
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: watch all these AFC teams play important games this week,

903
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: and they could come out of it. Just say, Seattle one, well,

904
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: Kansas City Miami winner will be ahead of them, and

905
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: then and then Baltimore lost, or Seattle be Baltimore, And

906
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: then see Cincinnati and Buffalo. One of those teams is

907
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: going to get hot, really hot, and end up being

908
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 3: a dangerous playoff team, no matter what.

909
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: It might be. Cincinnati the way they're starting to warm

910
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: up with Burrow. Now, now, the Bills did sign Leonard Fournett.

911
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: Is that doing anything for you?

912
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: Uh?

913
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: No? Playoff Lenny, Come on, man, I.

914
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: Mean, what's the difference between him and Latavious Murray? I mean,

915
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. They're just hand the ball

916
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: off and watch two big guys go. I mean, it

917
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: just doesn't. I don't think they run the ball enough

918
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 3: as it is, you have enough. There's not enough carries

919
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: for Latavious Murray, Letter Fournette and Cook.

920
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: So it's good to be in this kind of company

921
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: for the Jaguars, certainly at the midway point and then

922
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: the byeway coming up. Hey, quickly your thoughts on week ten? Could?

923
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean, they got to decide by tomorrow.

924
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: They will flex it?

925
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: Will they won't?

926
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: It's no because who's in that tenant? Who's in that

927
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: Monday Nike Jetsunday Nike the Jet yet the Jets in

928
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: New York market against who the Raiders?

929
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: Raiders.

930
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they're flexing it because all you

931
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: ever hear about is the Jets, Jet Jets, Jet Jets, Jets, Jets,

932
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 3: and the Jets play the Chargers this week, though, don't

933
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: they That's right? That could be a loss. So they're

934
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: gambling with that a little bit. They are, Absolutely, I

935
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: don't do you see them flexing.

936
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but it's the it's two of the

937
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 2: hottest teams loss. Yeah, the four nine ers have lost.

938
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: That's that's taken a little bit of the steam out

939
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: of that argument.

940
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: Off this week though?

941
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: Are they are? Both teams are off this week?

942
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: So okay, So you got a team that's lost three

943
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: in a row against the small market team at their place.

944
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 3: I can't imagine they'll flex that game. No, I'll say no,

945
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 3: even the four. But I'll say no.

946
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: Could they go to four o'clock? Do I hear four?

947
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 3: That could happen.

948
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: We'll see. Hey, we'll come back in a moment, and

949
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour is dead ahead.

950
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: We will have the fanatics, fan questions. We'll keep it real,

951
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 2: and we may or may not here again from Tony Biselli.

952
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: I have no idea he's somewhere in San Francisco. This

953
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

954
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 6: We've just been so caught up in our process and

955
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 6: every week turning the page and just finding a way

956
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 6: when Sunday comes, whether we play great, we don't play great.

957
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 6: You know, we have turnovers, we play clean, whatever it is,

958
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 6: just how can we find a way to win the game,

959
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 6: and whether that's our defense picking us up when we

960
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 6: need it after a turnover, whether that's us going and

961
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 6: scoring after the defense gives up a.

962
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: Touchdown and it doesn't matter.

963
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 6: And I think that mindset has given us a lot

964
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 6: of confidence because we've seen ourselves win these tight games

965
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 6: when the games that aren't clean, and we've won games

966
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 6: where we've been behind.

967
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: You know, we've found a way to win.

968
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 6: Last week in New Orleans, you know when they they

969
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 6: tied it up and we had a big touchdown and

970
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 6: we got to stop on defense. So all those things

971
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 6: just you know, pile on top of each other and

972
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 6: build a lot of confidence in a team. And we

973
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 6: got to keep playing with that and clean up some

974
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 6: of the mistakes like always.

975
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: But I love where we're at right now. That is

976
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: the quarterback, of course, Trevor Lawrence after the game in

977
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh yesterday, a twenty to ten win over the Steelers,

978
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 2: and welcome back. It's our number two of Jaguars Happy

979
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: Hour and the second Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings

980
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: j P, Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Biselli coming up in

981
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: a little bit. The Jaguars winning their fifth consecutive game,

982
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: five stadiums, four cities, including four of the five opponents

983
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: with a five hundred or better record at this point,

984
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: the defense leading the way again stuffing the run, playing

985
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: well against Pickett two takeaways. They continue to lead the

986
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: league in takeaways so far this season. Lawrence threw a

987
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: goal to go interception, but later in the game hit

988
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: Etn for a touchdown, a long one to put the

989
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: Jags up two scores. And now the Jaguars are on

990
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: the NFL's longest active winnings, tied for the best record

991
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: in the AFC headed into the Week nine bye week,

992
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: Hey in the Jaguars defense leading the way. Doug Peterson

993
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: spreading the credit around on that side.

994
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: Credit Mike Caldwell.

995
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 5: You know, great, great game plans, the defensive coaches, you know,

996
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 5: preparing their players. There's a there's a mindset over there.

997
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 5: Now there's confidence over there, you know.

998
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: And and.

999
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 5: You know when you keep when you keep things really

1000
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 5: uh simple, and you got the same calls, and the

1001
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 5: guys understand the defense and and the way they work

1002
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 5: during the week, I mean everything, everything just translates to

1003
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 5: to what you see in you know, on game day.

1004
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: And and it's.

1005
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 5: A credit to them because defense is really in my opinion,

1006
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 5: they've really kept the offense in these football games, you know,

1007
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 5: and and and then and then until the offense can

1008
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 5: can kind of break out and score, you know, score

1009
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 5: a touchdown.

1010
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: You have it. The head coach Doug Peterson after the

1011
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: game yesterday, we welcome back Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior writer.

1012
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: And you know, in this in this streak, Pece, the

1013
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: Jaguars have trailed for a total of seven minutes ten seconds.

1014
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: The entire time they have not trailed, but only that

1015
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: into the first quarter against the Indianapolis Colts when they

1016
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: trailed three nothing. That's been it.

1017
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they haven't played that well. That's the amazing

1018
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: thing to me. I mean, they just haven't offensively, they

1019
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: haven't played that well. And it's coming. It's going to

1020
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 3: be there. It's going to be special. You know, before

1021
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 3: the season, JP, I thought Trevor Larns would throw thirty

1022
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: seven touchdown passes for close to five thousand yards and

1023
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: they would light up the sky. Yeah, well, what are

1024
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: we eight games in? Is that right?

1025
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 4: So?

1026
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: How many how many yards does he.

1027
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: App Trevor Lawrence so far in the twenty twenty three

1028
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: season has that many yards nineteen hundred and thirty five.

1029
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: That that ain't gonna get near five thousand.

1030
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: I mean he's not even quite halfway, because there's no

1031
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: true half anymore. But yeah, that's four. He's on pace

1032
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: for fourth.

1033
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 3: Four and eighteen touchdowns. That's not That's not what I expected,

1034
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: which is why I think when they come off the buy,

1035
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: he's gonna have more like eighteen touchdowns in the second half,

1036
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: and he's gonna throw for more yards. How many times?

1037
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: How many times has he been over three hundred yards

1038
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: this year?

1039
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: Let's look at the passing for the Jaguars. Three hundred

1040
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: yard games one time against Buffalo.

1041
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: And that's a number that I thought would be almost

1042
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: every week.

1043
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: He's been close. He was. He was two ninety two

1044
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh and he was two seventy nine against Houston

1045
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: and they were getting blown out. Right.

1046
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: It's just it hasn't been the offense. Now, across the board,

1047
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: offense to have struggled in the NFL. Scoring is down.

1048
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: It's not just in Jacksonville, it's everywhere, and it's just

1049
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: not But it's not what I thought it would be.

1050
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: Watched the Chargers. You watch the Chargers last night. Now,

1051
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: it's a bad Bears team, but the way they came

1052
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: out threw it around early. He was what fifteen or

1053
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: fifteen or whatever it was, they couldn't stop them. They

1054
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: did whatever they wanted to. It was twenty four or

1055
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 3: what seven that they half. That's what I thought Jacksonville

1056
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: would be. And I think the play calling has been

1057
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: impacted by the interior, the offensive line which is impacted

1058
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,959
Speaker 3: and sped up Trevor Lawrence, and that's why they haven't

1059
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 3: been that good.

1060
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: If they get that sorted, the interior line was healthy, right, and.

1061
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: Then I and Jay Jones comes back.

1062
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other That was my next point, Like,

1063
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: if Zay is not right, let's just say it's not

1064
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: it's not firing or whatever is going on. How do

1065
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 2: they overcome that? How do they make changes on offense

1066
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: and to make that hum again, well.

1067
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: I don't think they have the receiver to do it.

1068
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: You know. If they don't, if they don't have Zay Jones,

1069
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 3: they have to either do one or two things. Either

1070
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 3: look to go get somebody tomorrow or or you know,

1071
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: hope like heck, you can scheme around it with guys

1072
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: like Evan Ingram and getting Strange involved in the passing

1073
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: game more, because when you only have two, it changes

1074
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: the way you play. Now they play a lot of

1075
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: snaps with extra tight ends on the field. They run

1076
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 3: the ball with a lot of extra dight I mean,

1077
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: and they throw the ball with a lot of extra

1078
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: tight ends on the field. I mean, look at the

1079
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 3: snapcounts for the two tight ends yesterday. Yea, the two

1080
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: top tight.

1081
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 2: Ends, right, absolutely, I bet they're Yeah. Ingram was fifty six.

1082
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: That's seventy nine percent of the snaps. Farrell was out

1083
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: there for thirty three snaps, and the Strange had twenty

1084
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: nine snaps. There were seventy one snaps in the game.

1085
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so they're using a lot of tight

1086
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 3: end snaps and.

1087
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 2: Well, now it was yesterday the day for that, because

1088
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: of the weather and the setup and the defense they're playing.

1089
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 3: That's fine, But if you use those snaps for those

1090
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 3: tight ends, what you're gonna end up doing is morphing

1091
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 3: Ingram into more of a receiver, even more than he's

1092
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: been if you don't have Za Jones. But the Za

1093
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: Jones speed is what they will miss. That's what you

1094
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 3: can't replicate. So maybe you could call the Giants and

1095
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 3: try and find one of their speed receivers. Clearly the

1096
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 3: Giants are in We're gonna have a fire sale mode.

1097
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: They traded Leonard Williams today, So maybe they'll you could

1098
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 3: call a guy like Darius Slayton who can run, by

1099
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 3: the way, not a great receiver, but he can run

1100
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: and scare some people down the field.

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00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: Tony VASSELLI back with us now, Hall of Fame left

1102
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: tackle and we're talking trade deadline coming up of course

1103
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: tomorrow four o'clock Tony, And the idea, if Zay is

1104
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: not right for whatever reason, do you go make a

1105
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 2: move at receiver?

1106
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think you're I mean, it depends

1107
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 4: on what I mean. Yeah, I mean, there's always positions

1108
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 4: you can fill. But the reality is that that you're

1109
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 4: you have limited draft capital next year because of the

1110
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 4: because of the Calvin Ridley deal.

1111
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: Ye, and so the two three and four, but the

1112
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: two three and four are all tied.

1113
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 4: Up to it, that's my point. They're all tied up.

1114
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 4: So you have limited ability to go make any trades

1115
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 4: unless you're gonna unless you get someone for a fifth,

1116
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 4: six or seventh, which you're gonna have a lower you know,

1117
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 4: maybe a down the line receiver possibly you could get,

1118
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 4: but you know, are you gonna be able to get

1119
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 4: one of those pass rushers for a fifth sixth seventh. No,

1120
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 4: I don't think so. So then you have to start thinking,

1121
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 4: can you trade a twenty five two or three or

1122
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 4: four which has less value?

1123
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: So I do think that you gotta think this too, Tony.

1124
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,959
Speaker 3: If I'm the Vikings and I keep to Neil Hunter

1125
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 3: without getting anything for him, if he leaves via three agency,

1126
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 3: at least I'm getting a three for him. So you

1127
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 3: got to get at least a three.

1128
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Pete, you can't. I mean, are they going

1129
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 4: to take a three and twenty five?

1130
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: Well, but I'm saying if you're why would you trade

1131
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: them if you're not going to get a three? And

1132
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 3: Jaffares are kind of handcuffed by that because they can't

1133
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: give them a three.

1134
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: No, I think we're saying the same thing, Pete. I

1135
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 4: think they're limited in what they actually can do.

1136
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 3: Just a decision. By the way, you kind of restricted yourself.

1137
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 4: Well a second, you were all for the Calvin Well.

1138
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: For the really trade. But did you have to tie

1139
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 3: tie every draft pick to it. You could have just

1140
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: tried tied one to it, couldn't you, Pete?

1141
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 4: I I love your like revisionist history. You were one

1142
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 4: of the people thinking to say what a great trade,

1143
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 4: great trade, great trade, great trade.

1144
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 3: But then you look at it. But you look at

1145
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 3: it on the surface and it sounded like great trade.

1146
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: But when you when you're in a position to make

1147
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 3: a move and you can't because you don't have any

1148
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 3: availability in the draft pick, that's not necessarily a great thing,

1149
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 3: is it. And I don't know if that's I've looked

1150
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: it up and I've tried to find out. But the two, three,

1151
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 3: and four are all top to some condition involving in

1152
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 3: the trade they are, so they are not available to anybody.

1153
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 4: That's my understanding, Pete. But I'm not an expert in this.

1154
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 4: But my understanding is I mean, I guess you could

1155
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: traders too, because you but at that point you're basically

1156
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: saying we cannot sign Ridley to a new deal.

1157
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: Which is something that I don't think you can determine

1158
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: that right now.

1159
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: Well you just say he's a free agent that you

1160
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 4: don't sign it, like you.

1161
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: Are saying, but for your good or your football team,

1162
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: what if he goes out the rest of the way

1163
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: and has.

1164
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 4: No I agree with you, you can't do that. But

1165
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 4: so I think, I mean, the only chance the Jaguars

1166
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 4: have to go get it to Neil Hunter or someone else.

1167
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 4: There's two paths there, you know, Montez Sweat to heck

1168
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 4: of a player, and he's younger. How old is Daniel Hunter.

1169
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: I don't think he's that old. I think he's.

1170
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's a little bit older. But Montes Sweat,

1171
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 4: I believe, is like twenty six twenty seven, if I'm

1172
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: not mistaken. I mean, the only thing is twenty four

1173
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 4: twenty four. But how's he playing this year?

1174
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 3: I worry about it, kay, I worry about okay, But

1175
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: you're right, durability is a concern. He's a better player

1176
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: than Montes Sweat when he's on the field, but Montes

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00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: Sweat shows up every week.

1178
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: Sweat's twenty seven, by the way, twenty seven years old

1179
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: for Sweat.

1180
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 4: I mean, Pete, would you give? The only chance you

1181
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 4: have is do you give a one for either of

1182
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 4: those guys?

1183
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 3: Well, if you're good as you think you're gonna be,

1184
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: it's not it's going to be a late one. But

1185
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 3: but here's you're renting them for a one. You're not

1186
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: gonna be able to pay him. That's the problem.

1187
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's my point. If you're gonna give a

1188
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 4: one up a late one. Let's say, then you have

1189
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 4: to say, can we do we have the cap room

1190
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 4: to sign Josh Allen and Daniel Hunter or Montes Sweat

1191
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 4: and then give Trevor Lawrence fifty million or.

1192
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: The other side of that is this. You're six and two,

1193
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 3: You're obviously gonna win. It's clear. It looks like they're

1194
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 3: gonna win a division at least. I think that way.

1195
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna be a playoff team. You're good enough. You

1196
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 3: haven't even come close to clicking on offense yet, so

1197
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 3: why not go for it? Go for it. You go

1198
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: for the go for the go for the ring. Who

1199
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 3: you can worry about the cap ramifications next year. Go

1200
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 3: for the damn ring. Because if they get another edge rusher,

1201
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: the way the secondary has been playing Tony and we

1202
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: were all we me and JP talked about this earlier.

1203
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: We were all wrong about the secondary. They've exceeded expectations

1204
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: in a big way. So go get another edge rusher

1205
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: and go for it.

1206
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 4: So you'd give up a one for about it?

1207
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 3: I think about it.

1208
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 4: Who would you take?

1209
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: I take Daniel Hunter?

1210
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 4: I would do.

1211
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: Then you'd have the number one and two sack artists

1212
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: in the league.

1213
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: This ye, go ahead, and you got the number you

1214
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 3: got the third run third rank run defense, the number

1215
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: one and number two sack guys, and the secondary that's

1216
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: over chieves and linebackers who can or playing their best

1217
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 3: football they've played since they've been in Jacksonville. Go ahead,

1218
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: go for it. And then you get the other side

1219
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 3: of the coin. The offense hasn't come close to being

1220
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 3: what it will be, not even close, and and they're

1221
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: still winning games. So yeah, Now the concern is Zay Jones, Tony,

1222
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 3: that's a concern. You know, what if he's not there,

1223
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: what do you do you have to you know, if

1224
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 3: there's a lingering issue with him, you need to find

1225
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: another receiver somehow, Someway.

1226
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but what was it? And I haven't paid attention

1227
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 4: as much to the receiver receiving situation out there, Pete.

1228
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: It's not a lot out there.

1229
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think you're gonna get much.

1230
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: I mean I don't you could get is like somebody. Okay,

1231
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example, Washington. If they Washington's having

1232
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: a fire sale, you're not gonna go get McLaurin, clearly.

1233
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 3: But what about Tammie Brown who can run? He hasn't

1234
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: probably been as good as expected. But he can run.

1235
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: He can fly. That's what they need. He needs somebody

1236
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 3: who can run to replace A Jones. If you don't

1237
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: have z A Jones because you can't, you would agree

1238
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 3: with this. If A Jones is there, they can't play

1239
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 3: with Agnew as your number three receiver, well.

1240
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 4: They haven't for whatever reason, So there's something there. I

1241
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: mean they did not roll Agnew out. I mean Tim

1242
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 4: Jones was the third receiver, right.

1243
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 3: Tim Jones is a good block I told him he's

1244
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: a good blocker.

1245
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: Tim Jones, Yeah, I mean I'm not.

1246
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 3: I mean Darius Slayton for the Giants another time.

1247
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: Can you get for a fifth rounder, because that's all

1248
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 4: you have, that's not probably what you could get. I

1249
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 4: would look at it. But I'm intrigued, Pete, because I

1250
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 4: was one hundred percent. Now is there anything you could do? Pete?

1251
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 4: And I'm not I've looked at our cap situation. Could

1252
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 4: you let's say you go get the nail Hunter for

1253
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: one and danil Hunter and Josh Allen end up one

1254
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 4: and two in the sacks, you know, sixteen and fifteen

1255
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 4: for the year. Could you sign both to twenty five million?

1256
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 4: Dollar deals, hold off a year on Trevor and then

1257
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 4: pay wait to pay Trivor the next year.

1258
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: It might be tough to do, but you there's ways

1259
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 3: to get it. I mean, look, we've played the cap

1260
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 3: game before. He can go, he can go, he can go,

1261
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: and you could fit anybody in you want to. I

1262
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 3: just think in this scenario, if you get Daniel Hunter

1263
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: to go with Josh Allen and you have that quarterback

1264
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 3: at that offense which hasn't clicked yet, you're going for it,

1265
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: go for it. How many times are you going to

1266
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: be in this situation where you can go for it?

1267
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 3: Go for it?

1268
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 4: And by the way, if you win it all that

1269
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 4: first rounder is the number thirty two pick, and it's

1270
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 4: really you know, like a second.

1271
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: Rounder, right So I yeah, I mean so you're you're

1272
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 3: you would give up the one for Denial Hunter. You're

1273
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 3: giving it up. You're giving it up. Pacelli's given up

1274
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: the one.

1275
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 4: I'm starting to work that way.

1276
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: I I am, I give it up. I'd give him

1277
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 3: the one. Hey, dude, do you see that day to

1278
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 3: go get Leonard Williams. Okay, they think they're gonna be

1279
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: a playoff team. They're making a push that's they give

1280
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 3: up what a two and a it was a two

1281
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: and a four. I think, yeah, so get okay, give

1282
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 3: up a two and of four.

1283
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 4: You don't you don't have a two to give up.

1284
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll take the future. Maybe they'll take twenty twenty

1285
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: five too.

1286
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 4: I maybe. I mean, if you can go give a

1287
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 4: two and a three and twenty five, get rid of

1288
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 4: those two, I mean, I don't know.

1289
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: I would, I would go for it. I think.

1290
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: I think.

1291
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,479
Speaker 3: I think if you have Josh Allen on one side,

1292
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Speaker 3: and you have Dneil Hunter on the other, and treybon

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Speaker 3: Walker can move inside and play in there, and you

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Speaker 3: could get guys like smooth slides inside he did it,

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Speaker 3: they could all of a sudden, the quarterback's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Go Oh oh my, I thought.

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Speaker 4: And I thought, now you know we're talking about, you know,

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Speaker 4: bringing in a passer shirt. And I didn't watch the tape,

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Speaker 4: but watching it live, I thought Trey Bond was.

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Speaker 3: Better, better, much better.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's always good against the run, but I

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Speaker 4: thought he was bad like he had like those early

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Speaker 4: pastors against okafor We're good.

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Speaker 3: Well, he ran the one, he ran right through him

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Speaker 3: like he always does. Then he had another one where

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Speaker 3: he slid inside of him with a move inside of him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there weren't a lot of them, but it

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Speaker 3: was better. Yes, But again, why not have three? Why

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Speaker 3: not have three?

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Speaker 4: Go ast to the New York Giants. How having three

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Speaker 4: pass rushers worked out for them against the Patriots?

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Speaker 2: Correct, Well, let's come back. We're gonna keep it real

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Speaker 2: when we return. And I think we just did. We

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Speaker 2: might be a consensus on this program to go for it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah I knew, you know, it was just a bad

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Speaker 6: play by me. You know, that wasn't the look, It

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Speaker 6: wasn't the coverage, the look that we wanted for that play.

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Speaker 6: And you know when I got to the top of

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Speaker 6: my drop and I saw one and two weren't open.

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Speaker 6: I should have just thrown it out of the back

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Speaker 6: of the end zone I think it was. I think

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Speaker 6: it was was at first first and five from the

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Speaker 6: five or something like that. I just should have thrown

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Speaker 6: it away right away, but I kind of scrambled and

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Speaker 6: then tried to throw one late to Calvin in the

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Speaker 6: back of the end zone and it's kind of double

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Speaker 6: covered there. So that's one that I know better, and

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Speaker 6: just in that moment, tried to do too much.

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Speaker 2: There's a quarterback of course, on his interception goal to

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Speaker 2: go first and goal with the six and welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco

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Speaker 2: and get ready for the tailgate with Tony benefiting the

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Speaker 2: Biselli Foundation. It's coming up Sunday over every nineteenth Metropolitan

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Speaker 2: Park ahead of the Titans Jaguars game ten am to

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Speaker 2: twelve thirty live music of Q and A with Tony

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Speaker 2: dot com and for those of you know in town,

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Speaker 2: it's b O S E L L. I. How you

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Speaker 2: spell Baselli and you can get tickets there use the

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Speaker 2: promo code Tony five zero for fifty dollars off your

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Speaker 2: entry fee. And we're looking forward to that, Tony. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I'm going to be able to get

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Speaker 2: out there. I'm gonna try to though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to figure that out, JP, because I'm

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01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 4: gonna do my first hit out there. Maybe you can

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Speaker 4: come join me, maybe you can MC it. Maybe we

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Speaker 4: have to figure something out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because I'm on eleven for pregame on

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Speaker 2: the Public's Tailgate show, Publics where shopping is a pleasure,

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Speaker 2: So then maybe maybe before that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: By the way, JP, he's a Hall of famer. Everybody

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Speaker 3: knows how to spell Beselli. What are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Everybody make you know. It used to be is a

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Speaker 3: little Jagson, little guy eight, This Tony Boselli, but now

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01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 3: he has the gold jacket. Price went up. People know

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Speaker 3: him now. Let me come on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people write in the checks now,

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01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 2: so they have to write that name on there too.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's move on. Bitter real.

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Speaker 2: We are keeping it real percented by wood Bridge by

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Speaker 2: Robert mndave opened up a winner today really increading it's

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Speaker 2: award winning line by Robert Mundavi and it has to

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Speaker 2: do with the intended receiver on that interception in the

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Speaker 2: end zone. Calvin Ridley so far fifty eight targets for

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Speaker 2: the season, thirty three receptions, four hundred and fifty one yards,

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Speaker 2: two touchdowns. His best outings were Week one at Indy,

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Speaker 2: the first half especially, but he went over one hundred

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Speaker 2: in that game with a touchdown, and then against Buffalo

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Speaker 2: and London seven for one twenty two in that game.

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Speaker 2: His other touchdown came against Atlanta, of course, his former team.

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Speaker 2: So what is your opinion so far of Ridley's performance

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Speaker 2: this season and and what what else can they get

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Speaker 2: out of him this year?

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Speaker 4: I would say his numbers are lower than I thought,

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Speaker 4: but I think his contribution as far as overall and

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Speaker 4: how he has fit in to this team has been

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Speaker 4: great because you always worry, you don't know, you know.

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Speaker 4: They had a really good, uh kind of camaraderie culture

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Speaker 4: whatever you want to talk about, between the quarterback the receivers.

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Speaker 4: There was no one who really complained about whether they

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Speaker 4: got the ball or not. It was a pretty which

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Speaker 4: is by the way, pretty unique in the NFL. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and uh, and you wondered what would it what would

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Speaker 4: happen with Calvin coming in and being you know, especially

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Speaker 4: in the offseason when everyone's like he's the man, he's

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Speaker 4: the man, he's the man, number one receiver, our local

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Speaker 4: media losing their brains about, you know, greatest thing you

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Speaker 4: know ever. And he's a very good player, and I'm

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Speaker 4: so happy he's on our team. I'm really impressive of

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Speaker 4: how he's handled probably not having the numbers he expected

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Speaker 4: or what we're projected, because he's a great team guy,

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Speaker 4: plays his tail off. He has not complained one bit,

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Speaker 4: has owned it when he had the bad game against Houston.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been super impressed with him. I think

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Speaker 4: he's been a very great addition to this team. Even

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Speaker 4: if the numbers are less than we thought they would be.

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Speaker 3: Would agree with you one hundred percent. Then he's handled

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Speaker 3: himself like a pro. I expected that though I heard

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Speaker 3: nothing but good things from people in Atlanta about him,

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Speaker 3: and Julio Jones kind of mendered him when he was there.

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Speaker 3: And Julio Jones is a pros pro. So and even

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Speaker 3: if he doesn't practice all the time, he's a pros pro.

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Speaker 3: But I am disappointed in the production so far from

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Speaker 3: my standpoint, but I've said that earlier before you came

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Speaker 3: back on Tony. I don't think the offense is quite

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Speaker 3: where it is going to be, and therefore I don't

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Speaker 3: think his numbers are where they're going to be. I

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Speaker 3: thought Trevor Lawrence was gonna throw thirty five to thirty

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Speaker 3: seven thirty eight touchdown passes. He's got nine, I mean nine.

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Speaker 3: And he hasn't been bad. He just hasn't been what

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Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be. And I thought

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Speaker 3: Ridley would catch one hundred passes for you know, fourteen

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Speaker 3: hundred yards and ten touchdowns, and he's not on close

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Speaker 3: to that pace. So it's not where I thought it

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Speaker 3: would be. But I think the second half of the

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Speaker 3: season you're gonna see a different passing game for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: I think I think you're gonna see more shots down

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Speaker 3: the field. And again I go back to what we

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Speaker 3: said most of the beginning of this season, the play

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Speaker 3: calling was affected by the interior of the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback has been sped up by the interior of

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Speaker 3: the offensive line, and I think that's impacted the numbers

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Speaker 3: down the field.

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Speaker 2: By the way. Ridley leads the league in targets that

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Speaker 2: caused defensive pass interference six times this year, he has

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Speaker 2: been the intended receiver and drawn the flag for DPI.

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Speaker 3: Which means he might have, you know, say get three

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Speaker 3: big plays out of half, you get half of those things.

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Speaker 3: That's that's you know, taking away three big plays from him.

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Speaker 3: But there's been times where I think, you know, earlier season,

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Speaker 3: I thought they tried to feed him too much, and

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Speaker 3: they got away from that. Then he was doubled at

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Speaker 3: New Orleans. I mean, they took him away at New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: That's that's what they did. So that's what you do.

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Speaker 3: You go away from that. But now the next step

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Speaker 3: for Ridley when they do w if you're really a

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Speaker 3: star receiver, how do you handle it? That's the next step.

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Speaker 3: And so I think, I think the next half of

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Speaker 3: this season is gonna be big for him, and it's

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Speaker 3: gonna make him make an adjustment on it too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Pete and I are in agreement. I mean,

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Speaker 4: overall positive love these on our team numbers probably an't

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Speaker 4: where we thought they would be, but that's the same

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Speaker 4: to Pete's point, I mean, I thought Trevor would have

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Speaker 4: bigger numbers as well. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: who cares. You're six and two, Your defense is playing great,

1458
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 4: You're you have one of the best running backs in football.

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01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 4: You're getting healthy questions with Jay Jones. I think missing

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Speaker 4: hurts them right now because he's a big part of

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Speaker 4: that offense. But I think overall it's great. I mean,

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Speaker 4: where they sit right now, I think it's outstanding. So

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Speaker 4: but with that, it made me think of another. Can

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Speaker 4: I change another? Keeping it real topic?

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Speaker 2: You don't go ahead, Tony? Yes? Please?

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Speaker 4: May you guys already talk about it. You guys talked

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Speaker 4: about Tank Bigsby. I think they have an issue of

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Speaker 4: running back.

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Speaker 3: Yes we did, but we agree with you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I and I think, listen, etn Is, he's

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Speaker 4: one of the best five running backs in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Let's just call it what it is. He's outstanding. I

1473
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Speaker 4: think I would bring Daranis Johnson as the number two

1474
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 4: now and give him more carries. I think he's a

1475
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 4: good enough back where you can trust him. And I

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01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 4: think and I would bring up oh the Snoop twenty

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 4: two Hasty Jamal Hasty as my third back, and I

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01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 4: might let Tank relax a little bit for a while,

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01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 4: kind of just.

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Speaker 6: You.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the sense I get is they don't

1482
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 4: trust him right now, and he not that he's earned it.

1483
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 4: I mean another turnover. And I think you have to

1484
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 4: have guys out there right now that you trust, that

1485
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 4: you know, and you have to spell e ten down

1486
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 4: the stretch. We have nine games left, and the volume

1487
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Speaker 4: of touches and carries that he's that he's you know,

1488
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 4: put on his back so far, it's pretty good, pretty

1489
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Speaker 4: pretty significant. And you're gonna need somebody who can take series,

1490
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 4: not just a play series off his plate. And I

1491
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 4: don't think it's Tink, it's Tank bigsbye right now. Not

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 4: that I'm giving up on Tank. I think I still

1493
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 4: think he'd be a very very good player in this league.

1494
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 4: For whatever whatever's going on, you need to give him

1495
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 4: a break. In my opinion, go with the Arnis Johnson,

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01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 4: get Jamal Hasty in there. You know what he is,

1497
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 4: what he did last year and h and kind of

1498
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 4: move forward.

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Speaker 3: I would agree with you. Uh And and I think

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Speaker 3: the other side of that Tony is he's averaging two

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Speaker 3: and a half yards per rush and he bounces everything everything,

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Speaker 3: And I think sometimes you just got to put your

1503
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 3: head down and go. You just go. He's a big back,

1504
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 3: he's got The whole idea with drafting him was to

1505
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 3: improve the short yardage game and and and you know,

1506
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 3: get him going in this for this short yardage stuff.

1507
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: And that's not who he is right now. So I

1508
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 3: tend to agree with you. I would I would probably

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 3: make Johnson my my number two right now. I think

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01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 3: you have to, you know, And and not just the fumbling,

1511
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: because look, there's been great Tiki Barber was a great

1512
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 3: backing fumbled remember a lot, and Tom Tom kind of

1513
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 3: helped him get over that. You can get over that.

1514
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 3: But I don't think he's running with the same power

1515
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 3: and toughness inside that he can run with. So I

1516
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 3: think there's something going on there. Let him you maybe

1517
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 3: let him sit for a while and watch and get

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01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 3: back out there later in the year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: They're a lot submitted today at Jags fan five eight

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01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 2: five eight. Do you think the Jags will make a

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01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 2: trade before the deadline or keep what they have to

1539
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: not disrupt any team chemistry. If they do make a trade,

1540
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: then what position should they trade for? Well, we talked

1541
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: through this a little bit, but what's your opinion of

1542
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 2: this team chemistry part of it.

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01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 4: I don't I would make a trade. I am now

1544
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 4: in the camp. I'll give it number one and go

1545
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 4: get one of those pass rushers, because I think you're

1546
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 4: gonna you're gonna go deep in the playoffs at this point.

1547
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,879
Speaker 4: If everything stays equal, you never have enough pass rushers.

1548
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 4: Worry about next year, next year. I mean, you gotta

1549
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 4: be careful, But I mean I think it's I mean

1550
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 4: based on because what you have tied up with Calvin Ridley,

1551
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 4: all you really have to do is get trade a one.

1552
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna do it though. I don't

1553
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 4: think they're gonna do it. To me, it has nothing

1554
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 4: to do with team chemistry. Let me tell you about

1555
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 4: team chemistry. If you have good team chemistry, you're not

1556
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 4: worried about bringing someone in because they'll conform to you.

1557
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 4: You think, you know the Patriots when they were winning

1558
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 4: all those games, worried about bringing in somebody. No, not

1559
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 4: for a second.

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01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 2: Though.

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01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 4: When you have great when you have a great locker room,

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01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,759
Speaker 4: a strong culture, it will it will, it will police itself.

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't think any of the

1565
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 4: guys are that are out there, that are we've been

1566
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 4: talking about, are an issue anyways. I think they all

1567
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 4: love football. I just don't think they're going to do it.

1568
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 4: I don't get the sense they're going to make the move.

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01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 3: Well, part of the problem is if you go make

1570
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 3: a move for a pass rush, you're you're saying to yourself, well,

1571
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 3: or number one overall pick wasn't what it was supposed

1572
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 3: to be.

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01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 4: Well, I hope that's the reason they don't. I hope

1574
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 4: that's the reason they wouldn't do it, because that's the

1575
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 4: wrong reason.

1576
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 3: You mean, you hope that's the reason. That's not the

1577
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 3: reason that they don't do it.

1578
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 4: I hope that's not the reason they don't do it,

1579
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 4: because trust I'm a big believer. I think great front

1580
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 4: office individuals, great coaches are people who can admit their

1581
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 4: mistakes if it's a mistake. And I don't think I'm

1582
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 4: not saying Arrevon Walker, but right now he's not the

1583
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 4: pass rusher you knew you would like him to be.

1584
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 4: At this point of his career. I think Trademon Walker

1585
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 4: is gonna be a long time Jaguarn and I thing

1586
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 4: he's to make a lot of big plays for us.

1587
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 4: But if you're looking at it right now and you know,

1588
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 4: would another pass rusher make you even better on defense?

1589
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 4: I would think so. The way Josh Allen's playing the

1590
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 4: way that back half of the linebackers is beat or point. Absolutely,

1591
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,440
Speaker 4: I just don't think they're gonna do it.

1592
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 3: It could make it downright scary, Tony. I mean, you

1593
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 3: have a chance to get get a defense that has

1594
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: the top two pass rushers in the league in terms

1595
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 3: of sacks on your roster right now. I mean that

1596
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 3: means somebody's gonna get one on one every time.

1597
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 2: Yep, we were touching on this earlier, the idea that

1598
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 2: some of these players are coming back Hamilton's back. Tony

1599
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: didn't play a lot yesterday, but in theory that could

1600
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: rise Smoot's back. Could that be enough to help the

1601
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 2: overall front be better down the stretch.

1602
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 4: Well, I think they're gonna be better. I think they're

1603
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 4: just gonna keep on improving with those guys getting back

1604
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 4: and healthier, healthier and healthier. But at Dwan Smoot's best

1605
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 4: pre Achilles sixth sack guy, seven sack guy. I mean,

1606
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 4: that's what he.

1607
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 3: Is and could give you a couple from the outside,

1608
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 3: a couple from the inside. That's what he's gonna give you.

1609
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 4: Valuable teammate, valuable member of the Jaguars. But that's what

1610
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 4: he is six SAC guy Devon Hamilton at his best.

1611
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 4: I mean, now he was really good in preseason, but

1612
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 4: now he's just trying to get back and get healthy.

1613
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 4: But really he's a two down player for a second down.

1614
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 3: He looks he looks small. I hadn't been able to

1615
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 3: lift or something.

1616
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 4: Tony Well, I mean, I'm sure he had some limitations

1617
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 4: with the back.

1618
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 3: Right, That's what I'm saying. So it's gonna take him

1619
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 3: a while because even his snaps, I don't know if

1620
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 3: you didn't watch a tape, but watching him, he didn't

1621
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,799
Speaker 3: look like the power player that he was before the injury.

1622
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 4: Yep.

1623
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 3: So it's gonna take him a month at least to

1624
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 3: get close to being where he was.

1625
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 2: Next question at the Realist AVD, with all the talk

1626
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 2: about bringing someone in for past rush, can we talk

1627
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: about what specifically makes this front so good against the run.

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01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 4: Number One, they're really big and physical upfront. They have

1629
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 4: three interior guys that will just beat you up. And

1630
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 4: then they have two deep outside I mean they're two

1631
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 4: outside linebackers and Josh Allen Traymon Walker can set the

1632
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 4: edge and are physical players, and Traymond one of the

1633
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 4: most physical outside linebackers you're gonna see in the league.

1634
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 4: And if you watch Josh Allen over this stretch and

1635
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 4: then I saw it live, Pete, tell me if I

1636
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 4: was wrong. Josh Allen made and plays from the in

1637
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 4: the run game, just shutting down the edge and coming

1638
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 4: off and making play.

1639
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 2: Yep.

1640
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 4: Yeah. So you have those five guys up front who

1641
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 4: are just studs, and then you have two backers right

1642
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,839
Speaker 4: now and a Luacon and Devin Lloyd who are running

1643
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 4: and hitting. And a Lucon's been doing it since the

1644
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 4: day he signed here. He diagnoses a play faster than

1645
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 4: anyone else maybe in the league. He is a leader,

1646
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 4: he's smart, he's in the right place, not out of position.

1647
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 4: And then Devin Lloyd is ascending right now and playing

1648
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 4: good football. That front seven is why you're good. And hey,

1649
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 4: let's not forget about Rashaon Jenkins coming down into the box,

1650
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 4: who's one of more physical safeties and tacklers. And then

1651
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 4: when they get Nickel, you have a nickel player and

1652
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 4: Trey Herndon's great is a physical player as well. So

1653
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 4: you just got a bunch of dogs out there that

1654
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 4: are physical beat people up.

1655
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I said just earlier Tony in the last

1656
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,480
Speaker 3: three games, Devin Lloyd's the most improved player on the team.

1657
01:21:58,960 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 4: He looks good.

1658
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: It's amazing. It's almost like it went on. There's no

1659
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 3: more where am I lining up? What zone am I

1660
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 3: dropping into? He doesn't react, particularly in the past defense.

1661
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: He drops, reacts tackles and they go down. Like you

1662
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 3: said last week, they don't miss tackles if.

1663
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 4: He drops one more interception though, with that nang cast on.

1664
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 2: His thumb, that's what it is right now.

1665
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 4: And the funny thing is, prior to the surgery, he's

1666
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 4: one of them, had some of the best hands on

1667
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 4: the defense.

1668
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 2: That's right. They'll come back at some point at Nick

1669
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: Pope Joy is the next question. Who is the MVP

1670
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: of the offense and the defense At the halfway mark,

1671
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,480
Speaker 2: I narrowed.

1672
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 4: Down to two guys on defense, either a Lua conn

1673
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 4: or Josh Allen. On offense, I'm gonna go Travis etn.

1674
01:22:58,560 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 2: Good choices, Pete Hard.

1675
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard for me to not pick the quarterback

1676
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 3: as the m v P. It just goes against everything

1677
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 3: I believe in because you always pick the quarterback. But defense,

1678
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 3: you said it would be Josh Allen has to be

1679
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 3: the MVP.

1680
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 4: I said, either Luacon or Josh Allen. They're both.

1681
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with a guy who has that that

1682
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 3: Sack influence and that those Sack numbers and the pressures.

1683
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 3: I'm going with Josh Allen.

1684
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 2: All Right, the picts are in. Let's get one final

1685
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: question at coach Knicks too.

1686
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 4: Five.

1687
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 2: What's your favorite Halloween candy? I'll go with the little

1688
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: mounds bars. What do you got?

1689
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's a weird one. I mean I like mounds too,

1690
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 3: but because I like coking up. But that's you're like

1691
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 3: off the beaten path with that.

1692
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, no way, those off the beating paths

1693
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1694
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 3: I mean most people say, you know, Snickers or your finger?

1695
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 4: What do you like?

1696
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 3: Butterfinger?

1697
01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 4: I got to mine is a Snickers.

1698
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 3: I like that too, though in my.

1699
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 4: My off the kind of off the beaten path one

1700
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 4: I thought to be good, be good. You remember dots,

1701
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 4: those little chewy like guns.

1702
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 3: I never I don't mind dots. I can't say anything.

1703
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 3: Especially the liquorice one was always good. Yeah, because I

1704
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 3: actually I prefer sugar. This is gonna sound I prefer

1705
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 3: those kind of sugar candies over chocolate to be honest

1706
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: with you.

1707
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 4: Well, and here's my problem, Pete, So do I A

1708
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 4: lot of times, like to this day, my kids go

1709
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 4: trigger te they come back. I steal the dots before

1710
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 4: anything else. I love the texture, the chewiness.

1711
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not hating on you for.

1712
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 4: That, especially the red dots.

1713
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I love it. But like I always,

1714
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 3: I like the juju fruits, you know, the I like

1715
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 3: the sweetish fish, the red sweetish fish. Sweetish, I mean licorice,

1716
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 3: you know, like licorice, not just I like string liquors.

1717
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 3: It's hard to find anymore, but I like that. Yeah,

1718
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 3: I prefer that over chocolate. I'm not a giant chocolate guy.

1719
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 4: Red vines like red vines.

1720
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 3: Bet they're okay.

1721
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 4: I like the lord you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, hard to.

1722
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 3: Find the you know, the strawberry ones are hard to find. Yeah,

1723
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 3: the strawberry ones.

1724
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 4: That's old school liquor, ye, Pete.

1725
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 2: Prisco is kind of like the black licorice. If you

1726
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: if you like it, you love it. If you don't

1727
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: like it, you just hate it. Right, So your dad.

1728
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 3: Hates black liquorice. JP's dad hates me.

1729
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 4: I know, trust me. One of the things that puts

1730
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 4: a smile on my face every day when I wake up, Pete,

1731
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 4: knowing the JP's dad can't stand you and love me.

1732
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if he loves you. I think he

1733
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 3: tolerates you. He just doesn't like me.

1734
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 4: Well he no, he loves me compared to you. That's

1735
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 4: all that.

1736
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 3: I still haven't figured out why your dad doesn't like

1737
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 3: me though he's never met me.

1738
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever.

1739
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 3: J's name, by the way, what's that? What's your dad's name?

1740
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 2: His name is John. His birthday was this week actually,

1741
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 2: by the way, seventy not like me.

1742
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 3: You've never met me.

1743
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 4: You have that effect on people, Pete.

1744
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 3: But Jake Piece is over their lab He's like, he's

1745
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 3: all proud of his dad haveing disdain for meat. We

1746
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 3: interrupt you?

1747
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: Is that?

1748
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 3: Why do we not let you have the flow? I mean, JP,

1749
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 3: he should hate the guy on Twitter that said calls

1750
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 3: you out every week every week, that guy Tony. Did

1751
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 3: you see that one today? Oh my god, we we

1752
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 3: almost you know how like they do mean tweets on

1753
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 3: on shows. That's that would be a mean tweet because

1754
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: it doesn't just take you down, It takes frenzy down.

1755
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 4: So are we are we not allowed to show it?

1756
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 4: Isn't that bad.

1757
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 3: You can read it. You can read there's not dirty

1758
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 3: word in it.

1759
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 2: I mean you can read it. Pete. I'm not gonna

1760
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 2: read it. Oh well, not right now. We'll come back

1761
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 2: in a moment.

1762
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 3: I'll read it and you tell me it.

1763
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 2: A kickoff the second half of the season at the

1764
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: Bank when the Jaguars take on the forty nine Ers

1765
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 2: November twelfth. Kickoff set for one o'clock. For now, tickets

1766
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: are going fast. I did hear that a single standing

1767
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 2: room is being sold. By the way, secure your seats

1768
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,560
Speaker 2: at Jaguars dot com slash tickets. We'll go around the

1769
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 2: NFL when we come back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour

1770
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: presented by mister Chubby's Wings. Welcome back JP Shadrick, Tony Biselli,

1771
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 2: Pete Prisco Jaguars Happy Hour in the second hour presented

1772
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: by Mister Chubby's Wings. I'm at the Hyundai studios at

1773
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center in Jacksonville. Tony is in San Francisco,

1774
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 2: Pete is in South Florida, And for ten years, Dream

1775
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 2: Fine Homes has been proud to call themselves the official

1776
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: homebuilder of the Jaguars. Visit dreamfinders homes dot com for

1777
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 2: all the available inventory and go Jags. Thanks Rollie, fanatics

1778
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: fan questions tonight. By the way, there was a lot.

1779
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on, a lot of happy Jaguar

1780
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 2: fans this week five game wins.

1781
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 3: I forgot this one though.

1782
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 2: No, boy, oh boy, here we go, Here we.

1783
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 3: Go, Tony, you want to hear it? What do you

1784
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 3: want to hear the tweet? The mean tweet.

1785
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 4: No, don't read out loud.

1786
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 3: I won't read it out loud.

1787
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

1788
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 3: I we't read it out loud because then we're gonna

1789
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 3: we're gonna give the guy credit for it.

1790
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 4: I don't want toive him any credit. He doesn't.

1791
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,440
Speaker 3: We want to block him. We want to block him exactly.

1792
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 3: But let's put it this way. If your dad's that

1793
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 3: mean to.

1794
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 2: Me, my dad's like the nicest guy on the planet, Pete.

1795
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 3: He just doesn't like me.

1796
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's fair.

1797
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 3: He doesn't know me.

1798
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,440
Speaker 2: That's also fair. I think it's just your general aura.

1799
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 4: I get it. I felt like that. I felt like

1800
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 4: that about Pete a lot of days in my life.

1801
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go around the National Football League and

1802
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 2: start with the Panthers a field goal at the end

1803
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: beat the Texans fifteen to thirteen.

1804
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 3: The two rookie quarterbacks, well, neither one was the best

1805
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback on Sunday. I can tell you that right now.

1806
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 3: You know who that was, don't you.

1807
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know Will Levis, I think is his name

1808
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 4: that you are. Let everyone on Twitter know, JP you

1809
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 4: see that Pete. Let everyone know on Twitter.

1810
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 3: I told you, I told you because I will tell

1811
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 3: you when I'm right. Well, do you know why I

1812
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 3: said that was him?

1813
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 4: And Christian Ponder all along?

1814
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 3: I know I was wrong about Christian Ponder. But you

1815
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 3: know what's the best thing about being wrong about Christian Pond.

1816
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 3: I worked for Rick Spielman and he drafted.

1817
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 2: Oh wow, oh going through some of these games here

1818
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 2: these Saints Pete, the Colts thirty eight twenty seven, the

1819
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 2: Dolphins over the Patriots thirty one seventeen. Stop me if

1820
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 2: any of these intrigue you. The Eagles over the Commanders

1821
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 2: thirty eight thirty one.

1822
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 4: That one that was interesting. I mean, I'm you know,

1823
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 4: the Eagles traded for Kevin Byern because they had issues

1824
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 4: in the secondary. They need safety help. To give up

1825
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 4: thirty one to the Commanders. I mean, here's what I mean.

1826
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 3: I'll say, Kayla Carter got hurt, by the way, and.

1827
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 4: I'll say it this way, Pete and JP. This is

1828
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 4: why I love the NFL, and this is why we

1829
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 4: also gotta be careful. I'm not getting too excited about

1830
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 4: being six and two. Three weeks ago, nobody could beat

1831
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 4: the forty nine er. For the Eagles, they're the greatest

1832
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 4: teams on earth. Bad Bad Bah Bah Bay or the Chiefs,

1833
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 4: and then and the Chiefs were right there and then

1834
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 4: like it's you know, you know, you have that narrative.

1835
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, a couple of weeks later,

1836
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 4: it's like the forty nine ers have lost three in

1837
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 4: a row. The Eagles lost their defense, you know, has

1838
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 4: some issues. Obviously, give up thirty one. Chiefs lose to Denver.

1839
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 4: Now I was snowing and my homes was sick.

1840
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 3: My point isn't really snowing though it's supposed to snow

1841
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 3: and it never really did.

1842
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 4: My point is it's a long season.

1843
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:25,759
Speaker 3: Yep.

1844
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 4: This is where as a franchise, and I think this

1845
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 4: is one of the things that Doug is so good at.

1846
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 4: Stay bounced. Don't get you ahead of yourself. Don't think

1847
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 4: too far down the road. Let's worry about getting through

1848
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,879
Speaker 4: the buy and beating the next team on our schedule.

1849
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 4: With that said, I'm gonna play the non coach, non

1850
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 4: responsible person. There's nobody in this league that scares me.

1851
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 4: As far as from the Jaguar standpoint, we are as

1852
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 4: good as anybody in the NFL.

1853
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 3: Yep, which is why you need to go for it.

1854
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 2: YEP.

1855
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:56,759
Speaker 4: I agree.

1856
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 2: Seahawks are going for it. They beat the Browns twenty

1857
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 2: four to twenty yesterday Pete.

1858
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 3: And then traded for Leonard Williams, which I think is

1859
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 3: a good move for them. The Browns PJ Walker up,

1860
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 3: You're up in the game three third and three. Late

1861
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 3: in the game, two minutes left, he threw an interception.

1862
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 3: Punt the damn ball in. Run the ball, make him

1863
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 3: use the timeout, punt the ball in and make him

1864
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 3: go down and get a field goal. These guys are

1865
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 3: out of control, out of.

1866
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 2: Control, out of control. Ravens over the Cardinals thirty one,

1867
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 2: twenty four, Bengals beat the Niners as you mentioned, and

1868
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 2: the Chargers over the Bears last night Monday Night Football,

1869
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo returns from a back injury for the Las

1870
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders at three and four as they visit Jared Goff,

1871
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson and the five and two Detroit Lions. Who

1872
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 2: you got in Motown on Monday night?

1873
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 3: Hey, nothing like hold on.

1874
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 4: You notice he was a little more reserved after flubbing

1875
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 4: it last week.

1876
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. He wanted to make it.

1877
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 4: Wasn't very long. It was very basic, you know he

1878
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 4: was he you know what? Last week? Yep, he was

1879
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 4: all into it. Last week he choked And now he's.

1880
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 3: Taking the ease, if you know what, And you know what,

1881
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 3: it's almost at least last week he took the bat

1882
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 3: off his shoulder and took the swings. This week he bunnet.

1883
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 3: He was bunnet, JP, You were bunting the bat off

1884
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 3: the shoulder. Get back in there and start swinging again.

1885
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 2: Think the receiver is a short catch to get back

1886
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 2: in rhythm. Maybe. I don't know.

1887
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 3: You think Tony he took the easy way out?

1888
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, picked how about that?

1889
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 3: I like the Lions tonight, and I think when you

1890
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 3: look at the Lions, they're wounded. They got beat up

1891
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 3: last week. They come home against a bad team, that's

1892
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,600
Speaker 3: usually a bad combination. I think they blow him out.

1893
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 4: I think the Raiders are off all. They had a

1894
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 4: team meeting where everyone could bear their thoughts. That's the

1895
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 4: first sign of stuff hitting the fan and going down

1896
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 4: the drain, and so I think the Lions blow them out.

1897
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 4: I'm with Pete.

1898
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, rarely do you have players only or team meetings

1899
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: when things are going swimmingly. That doesn't really.

1900
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels can alienate some people.

1901
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:16,560
Speaker 2: Now he survives, Pete.

1902
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 3: That's a lot of money.

1903
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 4: They like they own all this money. The Raiders aren't

1904
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 4: a rich franchise.

1905
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 3: They're richer now because they're in Vegas and they have

1906
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 3: that stadium. But you're right, for a long time they

1907
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 3: could barely even keep up and pay their They had

1908
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 3: to take money out to pay the bills at one point.

1909
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 2: If they win tonight, they're five hundred.

1910
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 3: Do you think they're winning to I JP?

1911
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 4: No, Well, based on your intro to Monday Night football,

1912
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 4: you know you're not even watching the game. I shouldn't

1913
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 4: interested you were in that.

1914
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 3: Uh, that's Monday night football. Hey, everybody welcome. Even if

1915
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 3: you were calling the game. If JP were calling the game,

1916
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 3: could you imagine I feel like Westwood want to cheating

1917
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 3: them out of a dime or whatever you do.

1918
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 4: Work drops back, He throws at the Devontia everybody.

1919
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 3: I'm I'm here in Detroit and there's a game going on.

1920
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 4: Terrible, JP, embarrassing formance.

1921
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 3: Get back back in the game, JP, man to get

1922
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 3: in the game. Try to get Tony b nice. You're

1923
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 3: gonna be on John's hit list, I think.

1924
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 4: Frankly, I think JP's dad, John is disappointed in his son.

1925
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 2: Wow.

1926
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 4: Wow, that's not the sun who John raised me. He

1927
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 4: raised the guy in battle who fights gets back in

1928
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 4: the game when he failed. Pete. I don't know who

1929
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 4: he is. I don't think John even recognizes him.

1930
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 2: How the hell have we go down this road? This

1931
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:44,520
Speaker 2: is unbelievable.

1932
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 3: Because I always filed that one away when you told

1933
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 3: me your dad didn't like me.

1934
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 2: So and and for clarity's sake, he did clarify. He said,

1935
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 2: I don't hate Pete. He's quite knowledgeable about football. However,

1936
01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 2: there are days.

1937
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 4: Welcome to the club, John, there's days.

1938
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 2: I have with you.

1939
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 3: Hey, there's days I don't even like what I say.

1940
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 2: Hey, what's the by week playing Tony? What do you

1941
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 2: got Pete, you gotta work.

1942
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to I'm in San Francisco right now. We

1943
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 4: back tomorrow in Jacksonville and then don't ask me why,

1944
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 4: but I'm heading it back to the West Coast, going

1945
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:26,640
Speaker 4: to LA for a homecoming week at s S. My

1946
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,719
Speaker 4: wife has. She's doing something with the song girls, watch

1947
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 4: my son in law, and then I take the Red

1948
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,480
Speaker 4: Eye after the game Saturday night and go to Cincinnati.

1949
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 4: I'm doing the Bills Bengals Sunday night football.

1950
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 3: And since, wow, very nice, You're racking up all kinds

1951
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 3: of miles. Man, what are you doing. You're killing yourself,

1952
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 3: that's what.

1953
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 4: But Pete, I'm healthy now, I'm skinny.

1954
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 2: I know.

1955
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 3: Isn't it amazing you lose a little weight? You feel

1956
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 3: like I told somebody yesterday, go, this is the first

1957
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:54,640
Speaker 3: time in the first week in November I felt this

1958
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:55,759
Speaker 3: good during the season.

1959
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 4: Ever, yeah, I feel great. I actually do really feel good.

1960
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to be of travel.

1961
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 3: But look, but the only problem with travel, Tony, you

1962
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 3: gotta deal with other people.

1963
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got I got a routine. I get a

1964
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 4: good seat, I put my headphones on and I act

1965
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 4: like I'm reading something.

1966
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying getting on the plane, getting in line,

1967
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 3: and getting out of the plane. But you probably have

1968
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 3: all first class upgrades and it's in your contract and

1969
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 3: everything else.

1970
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 4: Knowing you, Yes, affirmative, Pete Prisco.

1971
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 3: But you go to see USC play. They're terrible.

1972
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 4: Yes, they're better than Arizona State, but they are not

1973
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 4: very good.

1974
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not very good.

1975
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,719
Speaker 2: All right, boys, you gotta run. Pete Prisco, Tony Vasselli,

1976
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:41,799
Speaker 2: our entire crew, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reever, I'm JP Shadwick.

1977
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening and watching. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour.