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Speaker 1: I should probably just see half of this.

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Speaker 2: Hmm. That's the worst that could happen. I'm high. I

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Speaker 2: wanna cry.

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Speaker 3: O Hi Hie, cry cry fie.

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Speaker 4: Fetal position.

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Speaker 3: Cry cry cry bra br right crack, I go mine

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Speaker 3: one bye bye bye bye.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, sweemerld and welcome to the Nodunks podcast on

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Speaker 4: the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, April thirtieth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: I'm Jay skips here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 4: me as always tasmlis.

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Speaker 3: Basketball lovers, this's for you.

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Speaker 4: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, a top shot

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Speaker 4: boy tree Curvy, oh Ao and over yonder making the

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Speaker 4: magic happen. Super producer JD. Hello, there he is here.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 4: Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hello, podcast listeners. On today's podcast,

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Speaker 4: Castle wins Rookie.

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Speaker 2: Of the Year.

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Speaker 4: We'll get into that. The Kings commit to Doug Christy.

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Speaker 4: And you won't believe this, but the NBA is considering

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Speaker 4: another format change for the All Star Game. Babe, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: but first forty games in forty nights. Forty games in

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Speaker 4: fourteen nights. I haven't said it once here in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: We've watched a lot of basketball. We're getting a little loopy,

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Speaker 4: but man, we had some crazy games last night. Let's

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Speaker 4: start with the Pacers advancing to the second round after

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Speaker 4: staging an insane comeback in overtime. Bucks held a one eighteen,

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Speaker 4: one to eleven lead with forty seconds left, but the

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Speaker 4: Pacers stormed back and Indy sealed Milwaukee's epic collapse with

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Speaker 4: Tyrese Haliburts the layup with one seconds, one point three

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Speaker 4: seconds left on the clock and they send in Milwaukee home.

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Speaker 4: And then obviously we can get into all the antics

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Speaker 4: that happened after the Oh John Haliburton, Oh John Haliburt.

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Speaker 4: We're talking John, But do you want to start with

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Speaker 4: the game before we get to Jannis versus Tyrese's dad.

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Speaker 3: This game was drunk. We were loopy, for sure, but

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Speaker 3: it was also because of this game, which started well

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Speaker 3: for the Bucks, Doc Rivers finally made a big lineup change.

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Speaker 3: It was a lineup we talked about going into the

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Speaker 3: playoffs as something they were doing in the fourth quarters,

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Speaker 3: but Doc said, well, the first four games had been

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Speaker 3: going well, so let's change it up. They throw in

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Speaker 3: Lopez goes back to the bench for Bobby Portis, Ka Kuzma,

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Speaker 3: You're going to the bench for aj Green, and the

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Speaker 3: point guard got replaced by Kevin Porter, so Ken Porter,

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Speaker 3: Gary Trent AJ Green. As there one, two three with

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Speaker 3: Portis and Giannis. They played so much in this game.

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Speaker 3: They played of a potential two hundred and sixty five

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Speaker 3: minutes that they had through an overtime game, they played

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Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty nine minutes, only thirty six minutes

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Speaker 3: for Brooke Kuzma and a sprinkle for Torrian Prince. I mean, really,

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Speaker 3: just not a lot. They brought it though, they were

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Speaker 3: bringing it defensively, and before we get to that overtime debackle,

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Speaker 3: they should have won this thing in regulation. Just to

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Speaker 3: point out one possession with thirty seconds left, the Bucks

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Speaker 3: are up too. Kevin Porter Junior brings the ball up

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Speaker 3: and doesn't pass to anybody, a no pass possession that

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Speaker 3: should never happen. It was just a horrible, horrible possession.

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Speaker 3: He misses and then he allows Tyres Haliburton to go

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Speaker 3: to overtime. That all shouldn't happen. Then after Yannis has

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Speaker 3: all done in regulation, but then he missed that potential

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Speaker 3: turnaround as a beauty to send it to overtime. And

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Speaker 3: then in overtime you brought up the stats up seven.

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Speaker 3: How does that happen?

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Speaker 4: Gary Trent Junior was on fire. Yeah, he was doing

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Speaker 3: He was over time to start this game, then bombed

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Speaker 3: I went through his freaking legs wicketed. Yeah great, that

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Speaker 3: I mean, it happened, just it happened.

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Speaker 4: Obviously it's entertaining. You know, your honest is gas by

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Speaker 4: It goes over time. Gary Tryn Junior is on fire,

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Speaker 3: Like how did this happen?

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Speaker 4: How did they get right back into this? And yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was big part of it was those burutal turnovers

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Speaker 4: great job of trapping him on the side, and then

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Speaker 4: I have to rewatch this what happened in these forty

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Speaker 4: seconds and it was a meltdown. It was an epic meltdown.

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Speaker 4: And then on in addition to some big shot making

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Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, it was goat to goat for Gary

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Speaker 2: Trent Junior. Gary of all time to literal goat. We've

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Speaker 2: called Chris Middleton the Ferris Wheel a lot of times

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Speaker 2: back when he was playing the Bucks. A good game,

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Speaker 2: Incredible play by Nemhard to get back for that first

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Speaker 2: There was just a lot of things that went wrong

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Speaker 2: they worked their hardest to turn it over. It was like,

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Speaker 2: gotta give a big shout out to Tyrese. Haliburton completely

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Speaker 2: the end of regulation, and then the nice layup over

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Speaker 2: which we saw on the last basket by Halliburton, but

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Speaker 2: it looked like he got a little tired from having

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Speaker 4: There's a clip with like a minute thirty to go

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Speaker 4: caught it. They just had the camera on Giannis bringing

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Speaker 4: But that pacer stormback.

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Speaker 3: He was definitely tired. He played the entire overtime with

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Speaker 3: There was a time Doc said get the ball out

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Speaker 3: Janis was bringing up the ball and Doc was talking

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the weird thing that's happening with

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Speaker 3: It's too late, who the hell they are. And that's

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Speaker 3: the interesting thing. First of all, is Yanni's going to

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Speaker 3: Brooke a free agent, may be gone, and then you

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Speaker 3: bring Kevin Porter Junior back. I don't know how you

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Speaker 3: can trust him in all honesty. So there's just so

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Speaker 3: many frickin' questions, but the best ones are about John

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Speaker 4: John, let's talk about it. So, yeah, motions spill onto

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Speaker 4: the court after this in saying come back, and we

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Speaker 4: then see the clip of Halliburton's dad approaching Giannis with

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Speaker 4: shouting at Johannest you know, this is what we do,

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Speaker 2: Kill this guy.

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Speaker 4: Who First off, who is this guy? I don't think

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Speaker 4: he knew at the time. Maybe at least he's trying

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Speaker 4: to figure it out, but he was offended by it.

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Speaker 4: Of course, after him show me a towel, Yeah, don't

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Speaker 4: like still thinking about it, of course, sort of seeks

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Speaker 4: like it's my buddy Grish and Vegas with too many

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Speaker 4: game on the podium, he said, look all, I don't

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Speaker 4: think John Halliburton was on the podium. Tyree said, I

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Speaker 4: obviously Johannis had a lot to say about being offended,

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Speaker 3: But then the funny thing is he shook Tyre's Halliburton's hand, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: And then the funniest thing while all this is, you know,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and Haliburton was great downstretch, crutch time, a

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Speaker 3: He was playing it on both ends. And John Halliburton

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is that is it is due Haliburton.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's just the air to Reggie Miller. Honestly, he

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Speaker 2: Everybody hates him. Yeah, they hate the way he smiles.

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Speaker 2: Did he not overrate this? Yeah? Or that?

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Speaker 4: Or like yeah, something about it? Do you do you

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 4: What does the league do? If anything?

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Speaker 3: I don't think they do anything. In all honesty, I

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Speaker 4: You probably shouldn't have been on the court, but you

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Speaker 3: If you said congratulations, good series. Nothing happens, right, I

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Speaker 3: mean again, it's it was all about the word.

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Speaker 4: Joannis knows who he is. But this is that that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I guess. I mean they talked for a

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Speaker 2: Anyway, very weird.

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Speaker 4: Do you think anything happens like following this.

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Speaker 2: I think he gets admonished behind the scenes, right, and

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Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he'll be there, but I don't think we'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think Tyresian said like, he's got to wait for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, Dad, let me have my moment. This

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think it's as bad as Tea Morant

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Speaker 3: The fact was he didn't celebrate. He's talking trash. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Really, be honest, upset.

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Speaker 3: I guess, oh very much.

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Speaker 4: Soliloquy after on the podium. It took like three or

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Speaker 4: you're gonna show me doing You're gonna show me being

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Speaker 2: Hey who's that seventh foot guy staring at me at

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little different. Who is that guy?

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Speaker 2: Has?

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Speaker 3: as somewhat you know, regional teams here and they're close enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they played division rivals.

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Speaker 4: Like there's some bad blood between some of these teams

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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean it wasn't entertaining anything else from this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some bone throws here. Aaron Smith was awesome nineteen points,

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Speaker 2: was awesome. Nem Hard was good to fifteen points, six rebound,

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Speaker 2: curse Lakers and the Bucks lost in five games in

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Speaker 4: Something to keep an eye on, something to keep.

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Speaker 2: An eye on. Nobody's gonna want to win this thing.

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Speaker 4: We got a bunch of other games, talk about this

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Speaker 4: one won't take as long. We didn't have any you know,

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Speaker 4: so it's Celtics in five. This was odd because Boston

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Speaker 4: back and they took out Orlando there in the TV Garden,

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Speaker 4: it was with a twenty one point game.

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00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah TSN turning point right there, tie game when he

437
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 2: went out and nobody knew the game was over. But

438
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 2: a twenty four to four to run, twenty four to

439
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,720
Speaker 2: four run for the Celtics to end the quarter thirty

440
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,879
Speaker 2: to nine, Like you're saying, once Pollo check back in,

441
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 2: it was a tail of two halves. Love it. Zero

442
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 2: for six three pointers in the first half for the

443
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics, first time all year they didn't make a

444
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 2: three pointer in a half of basketball, and then in

445
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,480
Speaker 2: the third quarter the magic went over eleven from three

446
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 2: and the Celtics went five of eight. Finished thirteen of eighteen.

447
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,480
Speaker 2: In the second half, they played one half of basketball

448
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,880
Speaker 2: basically in this series. I felt like it was played

449
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 2: on the Magic's terms for the most part, you know,

450
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 2: very physical series. First half's pretty close. Boston was a

451
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 2: plus fifteen for the five game series. The second half, though,

452
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 2: Boston a plus forty nine over the course of these

453
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 2: five games. And that's just kind of how it felt.

454
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,719
Speaker 2: You know, we'll play with our food a little bit

455
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 2: the first couple of quarters here and then really turn

456
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,679
Speaker 2: it on in the third, sometimes fourth quarter. Jason Tatum

457
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 2: has a new celebration given to him by Baylor Shireman,

458
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 2: and he he really got to show it off in

459
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 2: the three in the third quarter when he hits a three,

460
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 2: now he raises his arms up and grabs his right

461
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 2: wrist to show it. Kind of has like a diamond

462
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 2: Dallas Page diamond.

463
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 3: Cutter a little bit to it.

464
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 2: But three threes in the third quarter for Tatum, four

465
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 2: threes on the night was really showing off the celebration.

466
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 2: That's cool. He also dominated this series once he came

467
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 2: back from that injury, thirty six, thirty seven, and thirty

468
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 2: five to close out the Magic.

469
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 3: Three straight games with thirty five more, and it was

470
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 3: apparent out there that the Magic were taking away everybody

471
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: else and that's why they couldn't hit threes in the

472
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 3: first half. They said, all right, Tatum, Jaylen Brown, you

473
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 3: got to play isoball and take out guys. And Tatum

474
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 3: was awesome at doing that. He was so good those

475
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 3: last three games. He averaged twelve free throws as well,

476
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 3: so he was really getting into it. And Jelen Brown

477
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 3: helped out with twenty three points, but no one else

478
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 3: had more than ten in this game, and it didn't

479
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 3: matter because they scored enough. It was a crushing third

480
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: quarter in New York Knicks. We're going to talk about him.

481
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 3: They've lost every third quarter in this playoff series against

482
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: the Detroit Pistons. What happens if they faced the Celtics.

483
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 3: It feels like the Celtics are gonna blow him up

484
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: by thirty in the third quarter. Bencaro did go to

485
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 3: the bench after those three quick fouls, and they challenged

486
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 3: that last mostly said yes, challenge, please had to Yeah,

487
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 3: it didn't. It didn't work.

488
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: A tough call. I thought, yeah, yeah, on Brown right.

489
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: At the rim, Yeah, defending Brown on a drive. Yeah,

490
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 3: it's it's a little bit of the guards getting you know,

491
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 3: just sort of get in contact and getting the credit

492
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: for the call. A little bit with that call. I

493
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: thought the charge his third one was the weird one.

494
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 3: You can just it was a post play. You can

495
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: give it to a guard who's guarding you, and so

496
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 3: Derek White just flopped a bit of a flop. I

497
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: thought that was an awful call. But anyway, they took

498
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,239
Speaker 3: They took over Endlesten. I think Banco Franz Wagner had

499
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 3: a really really good series. The three point shooting numbers

500
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 3: aren't all that good, but I thought it was better

501
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: than last year. His numbers are good overall in this series,

502
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 3: So they've got some things to go away from. In

503
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 3: this series. They play extremely hard defensively, and their top

504
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: two guys played well. They just need a an old

505
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: number three to help them out.

506
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: They need some backcourt scoring so bad, Like who will

507
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 4: it be? I'm fascinated to see who they may be

508
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 4: try and go get. You know, there's talk of like, hey,

509
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 4: the Caves, they're not gonna have enough money for even

510
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 4: ty Jerome. Could a guy like that help them out?

511
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 4: And then there's Anthony Simon's with the Blazers. I mean

512
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 4: that guy is a scorer. He's a popular trade machine

513
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 4: sort of guy. To Orlando Desmond Bane, you start to

514
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 4: maybe level up a bit, but he's an expensive guy.

515
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 4: I get twenty five percent max of your sort of

516
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: salary there, But he's locked in for a long time. Anyway,

517
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 4: they have to because I couldn't believe this. Orlando has

518
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 4: been a bottom ten offense for thirteen consecutive seasons. That's

519
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 4: a long ass run just be in the bottom ten.

520
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 4: I'm not saying the worst of the worst, just down there,

521
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: so they need to work on that. But you're right

522
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 4: overall put up a fight. I wonder did they provide

523
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 4: any sort of blueprint to slow the Celtics three point

524
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 4: barrage or is that just the makeup of the Magic's

525
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 4: team right, They're just perfectly built to sort of do that.

526
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: Or can other teams take something from it? How they

527
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 4: did try and sort of limit it and take it away.

528
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit more of their personnel,

529
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 4: but there are teams like them, Like if the Thunder

530
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 4: the Celtics, I could see them playing sort of a

531
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: similar game and take that away. So good stuff, Celtics,

532
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 4: take care of business, and you're right, Tatum, Man, holy crap,

533
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: you missed one game, but he averaged like thirty one

534
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 4: eleven and five. Yeah, defensive stats and barely missed a

535
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: free throw and damn good numbers anything else from Magic.

536
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: I think it's like encouraging for the Celtics that you

537
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: look at this series and they won and not necessarily

538
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: playing Celtics basketball like you're saying, the Magic were good

539
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: at taking away three pointers and three point attempts. Only

540
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: twelve threes made per game for Boston on thirty one attempts.

541
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: Those numbers are way down from the regular season, but

542
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 2: they took a ton of free throws. A lot of

543
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: that is Tatum getting to the line and finishing. They

544
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: won the rebounding battle against a team that you would

545
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: say as a bigger team in the Magic as well,

546
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: and they responded to their physicality despite having lots of

547
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: guys go out with injuries in this series, like Drew

548
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: Hollidad play An Deren times when Derek White was missing.

549
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: Porzingis took the elbow to the forehead and missed some time.

550
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown came in with a banged up knee. So

551
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: are other teams able to look at the way the

552
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: Magic defended and say we can do that. Only the

553
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 2: best teams, like literally only Cleveland and okay see probably

554
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: have a chance of that. Maybe Minnesota as well if

555
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: they were to make it to the finals. But I

556
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: think if you're the Celtics, you're like, yeah, maybe they

557
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: can defend us like that, but guess what, we can

558
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: still win even if they do.

559
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's move to the Pistons beating the Knicks one

560
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 4: of six to one O three in Game five. They

561
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 4: stay alive in the first round series. This goes back

562
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 4: to Detroit, Detroit four and one at Madison Square Garden

563
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 4: this season. I got two here in the postseason. Yeah,

564
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: had two in the regular season. Where do you want

565
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: to start with? This one? Obviously a very entertaining game,

566
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 4: some some weird decisions from Thibodeaux to keep his sort

567
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 4: of star back court on the side there for a

568
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 4: while after the injury late and decided not to use

569
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 4: a timeout, and the game just kept going for like

570
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 4: two and a half minutes.

571
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, somehow the Pistons were up enough late to hold

572
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: on to this game. And we'll get to that in

573
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 3: a second. But I do want to point out, Asar

574
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 3: Thompson and Tobias Harris got them to this point. Kate

575
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 3: Coningham was cold through the first three cords, he had

576
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: only hit three shots, but Asar helped them get their

577
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: big time. He played his best game of the series,

578
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 3: played his most minutes of the series. I wonder if

579
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen in game six or he's gonna play

580
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: that much they need him. He was spectacular twenty nine minutes,

581
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 3: twenty two points, hit eight shots, never good from the

582
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 3: free throw line six of twelve, but clearly his best game.

583
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: Clearly a good guy to throw at Jahn Brunson, which

584
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 3: they've tried more and more, but when you play more

585
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 3: minutes like that, it helps out. And Tobias Harris was freakin'

586
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: awesome in this game. Not a huge number points wise,

587
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: but did enough. Came up with a very, very very

588
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: key block to start that run where Jalen Brunson and

589
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: Josh Hart were on the bench, and let's get to

590
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: that three minutes left, they're down, they're injured, they're both

591
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 3: sitting on the bench. Two fifty seven left and it's

592
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 3: a two point game. They're they're down two. I don't

593
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: blame Tom Thibodaux for what happened. What happened was a

594
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: few possessions transpired. They went through four possessions and then

595
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: those guys said, all right, we're coming back. So they

596
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: got to the scorers table with about a minute fifty

597
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: five left, and they don't go and foul to get

598
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 3: them on the floor. They didn't have a foul to give.

599
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: They only had one time out left as well, it

600
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 3: would have been their last time out. But really I

601
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 3: think what happened was they just they just didn't score.

602
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: I mean the first possession, Brunson was replaced by a

603
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: campaign campaign gives it to a cat who got blocked

604
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: by Tobias Airis. It was monstrous. Then the Pistons scored,

605
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: then Bridges missed, then Kate scored to put him up six.

606
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: Here it come the guys to the scorers table. So

607
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: is that a point where you just say, let's just

608
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: foul somebody right here, right now, it's a six point game.

609
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: That's it was six, But they don't. The pain Pain misses,

610
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: Pistons miss Bridge miss is, and then the Pistons miss again.

611
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: Then Bridges hits a shot and then there's an inbound

612
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 3: to start Thompson where Miles McBride tried to grab him

613
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 3: real quick, but he passed the ball away and it

614
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: wasn't nothing. Kid Tuisar Thompson who kind of sealed it.

615
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: So I know the headlines are Tom tabuaw you screwed up.

616
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: But it was two minutes left and it was a

617
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: six point game when those guys were ready, So I

618
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: don't got a problem with it.

619
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: In the end. You just think it was unfortunate that

620
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: the game clocks would have just kept going and there

621
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: was no real stoppage there for to get them in. Yeah,

622
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: and all credit bicker stuff. I got terrified he was

623
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 4: going to call time out at one point, like, don't

624
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 4: do that. Whatever you do, let this keep going because

625
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: those the clutch Player of the Year is just standing

626
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: over there.

627
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that part is great, it's great for headlines. But again,

628
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's one fifty five six point game.

629
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: It didn't get that much worse, not that I mean

630
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: you did you want Jalen Brunson out there, the guy,

631
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 3: the guy raised the Clutch Player of the Year award

632
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: before the game, and then he wasn't on the floor,

633
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: but that's because he was hurt up.

634
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: Yes, he came into this game hurt yeah, like from

635
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 4: the game.

636
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: Four and he turned his ankley literally hobbled off.

637
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 4: You could see the floor like flex. Yeah, I was

638
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 4: an old floor.

639
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they should have filed. You want those

640
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: guys in, Yeah you do. Yeah, I mean they shouldn't

641
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: have called the time out because they needed it. But yeah,

642
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: he got Hurts back in. You know, it wasn't close

643
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: or it didn't get extended. So you're thinking if we

644
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 2: got Brunson, though he didn't have a great game, he's helpful.

645
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: At least Brunson and Heart would have been nice, especially

646
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: when you got Campaign taking shots out there. They still

647
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: almost got it though on the cat tip he just

648
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: tipped it out Robert Horory style. Didn't go to the

649
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: right gut. There was nobody there. I thought Asar Thompson

650
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: was the key player in this game. I like to

651
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: see him and the men had their best playoff games

652
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 2: like right after each other, twenty two seven and two

653
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: for US are A man had seventeen and nine in

654
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: Game four against Golden State, And I think the key

655
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: thing was that Assar Thompson was playing so good offensively

656
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: that he was able to stay on the court and

657
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: guard Jalen Brunson. On the defensive end, Brunson went six

658
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: of sixteen. The size is definitely gonna give him something

659
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: to think about. At the very least, we know that

660
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 2: Brunson can get a shot off against anybody, but Asar

661
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: was all over him and he was able to stay

662
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: on the floor. Cad Cunningham was also magnificent quarter. He

663
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: had eight assists on the night, had that bullet pass

664
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: to Thompson for a layup with twenty seven seconds left,

665
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: and basically he was just carving up the knicks. In

666
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter in pick and roll hand thirteen points.

667
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: Jalen Durin I thought was really good as well, six

668
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: assists for him. Caid kept finding him on the short

669
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: roll when he was getting blitz. Great playmaking from Duran

670
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: also had seven offensive rebounds fourteen on the night, turnbows

671
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 2: into ten points whether it be him the garbage man

672
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: or finding somebody outside for three. So this is a

673
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: game that you see SR. Thompson play well, you see

674
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: Duran play well. That could have maybe happened at home,

675
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: but they did it on the road in an elimination game.

676
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 2: You gotta give a big shout out to these young

677
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: dudes on the pistons.

678
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: Oh for sure.

679
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

680
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: Four of the five games in this series have been

681
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 4: within five points in the last five minutes, and you

682
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: brought it up there I saw shutman. Note this, Cunningham

683
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: scored assisted on eleven of his team's fourteen clutch points

684
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: there in game five, a brutal shooting game. You said

685
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 4: a task like he started so solo. What was he

686
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: six to seventeen in the end, and maybe more turnovers

687
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: than you want. But like, to me, that game was like, Oh,

688
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: if you're not convinced he's a superstar, then go rewatch

689
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: this game, because those are the games to me that

690
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: you're actually become a superstar. When the game you're struggling,

691
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: you don't have it going, you're obviously still competing, and

692
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 4: then you just take over. You still go sort of

693
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: nuts in the fourth quarter setting up guys or getting

694
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 4: to the line, putting a ton of pressure on getting

695
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: to the free throw line where he went eleven to twelve.

696
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: I thought he was so so good and trusting. You're right,

697
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 4: Duran in the short role. Who man, Sometimes that guy

698
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: has like rock hands I find and then other But

699
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: when it gets to him, when he actually catches it.

700
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 4: He makes smart decisions, either like a looking at the

701
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: rim or kicking out or finding a star Thompson, who

702
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: bigger staff couldn't even take off the floor because he's

703
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: played so well. Yeah, like there was a lot of

704
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: times where he wouldn't playing in fourth quarters, but he's like,

705
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 4: I have to play him. And he's gotten just smarter

706
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 4: the way he's been playing brunts, and I think a

707
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: part of it brunts and being banged up. Yes, maybe

708
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: slowed a little bit coming in this game, but he's

709
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: like realized, like I don't need to pick up those

710
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: dumb fouls, you know, fifty sixty feet away from the

711
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 4: from the rim, Like, just move my feet, just move

712
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: those dogs. And he is so god damn quick, just

713
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: like his twin brother at sliding. I'm telling it's nuts

714
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: to see someone in the NBA like actually sort of

715
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 4: be able to contain a superstar player in just moving

716
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: his feet because he's so athletic. So great game from

717
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: those guys, And you're right, those guys, Kid, Thompson and

718
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: Durant like the damn good young three right to build

719
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: around or at least what you're seeing here in the postseason.

720
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 4: So how does this one go now? Because I mean,

721
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: obviously the Pistons have been great in Madison Square Garden,

722
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: but back in Detroit the eve been is.

723
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: Good, won't won? Yeah?

724
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: Is this going seven?

725
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: Though?

726
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: You could see a great Knicks game, that is for sure.

727
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: This was an incredible performance on the bench. We've named

728
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: all the Pistons and I don't know how many more

729
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: Tobias Harris games will have with four blocks, but he

730
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: was monstrous against the cat. He was He did a

731
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: great job. So yeah, that's a big question. Somehow the

732
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: Pistons will win the third core because they've won five

733
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: of them already in this series, so it'll it'll come

734
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: to that. But they're more deep team, which is weird

735
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: to say, but the Knicks just have the lowest scoring

736
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: bench in the playoffs, so you just gotta get some performances.

737
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 3: We didn't mention Shruder, but I thought he was clutch

738
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of the time when he's

739
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: on the floor. And you get a game where both teams,

740
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: you know, wanted to give it away at the free

741
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: throw line. Both teams missed a lot of free throws

742
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: in this game, so it was a weird one. We've

743
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: got a series, you don't know. You just don't know

744
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: who's gonna win that next game.

745
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, the part I do know, though, it feels like

746
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: the Knicks offense is like Brunson, please bail us out,

747
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: please please. I mean that's been their sort of offense

748
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 4: a lot of this regular season. And then you hope

749
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: Kat's got the bombs that he's dropping. They should probably

750
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: post him up a little bit more. I know Tobias

751
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: Harris is doing a good job on but it actually

752
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 4: seems to work a lot of the time. It does

753
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: much bigger, but otherwise it's like brunts. It's just it

754
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: is bruntson here. Man Like he brings the ball up,

755
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: he hands it off, he sort of circles a little bit,

756
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: and he just gets it back and you've killed like

757
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: a bunch of cl and then he tries to operate.

758
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: But if he's hobbled, because I again I keep harping

759
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 4: on this thought, I thought he was almost hobbling from

760
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: the start of this game, from the comeback that he

761
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: came in Game four after that injury, and then he

762
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: reaggravates it. I don't know, like, is this guy just

763
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: running out of ankles?

764
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: That never happens with the Knicks, right, Oh wait, that

765
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: happened all the time, hearing last season that happened. Oh right, yeah. So,

766
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: I mean the Knicks need to win this in the

767
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 2: next game because they don't know what's gonna happen. Going

768
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: into the Game seven. They've played better on the road.

769
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: I think they need to ride Towns. He's having a

770
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: very good series. Twenty two points per game, fifty percent

771
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: from the field, fifty percent from three ninety four at

772
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: the line. There are times when Tobias Harris can handle him,

773
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: and there are times when Tobias Harris looks like he

774
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: can't handle. Yeah, he should be out playing Jalen Durant.

775
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: So I think that's got to be more getting Cat involved.

776
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: Usually that comes in the first three quarters. But if

777
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: he can go for twenty five in the first three quarters,

778
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: maybe give you five to get the thirty in the

779
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: fourth quarter where Brunson decides to turn it up and

780
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: get into his bag, which he has done in this playoffs.

781
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 2: The Knicks should still feel confident, but all the pressure

782
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: is on them. I think for Game six, Detroit should

783
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: be flying free. We earned ourselves yet another game back

784
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: in the pizza box.

785
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree, and.

786
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: They know what their game plan is. It's like just

787
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: put Cat or bruntson in every action. That's the other thing,

788
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: Like they're like, oh yeah, they got Og and Michail Bridges.

789
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: Those guys are elite defenders. Don't worry about them. We

790
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 4: won't bring him into the play because they just keep

791
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 4: attacking Cat and Brunson as you should. So Bigger Stuff

792
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: is doing a great job here, I think with these

793
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 4: young guys.

794
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: Although Mitchell Robinson off the bench had his best game.

795
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: He was very, very good. He's plus nine thirteen and eleven,

796
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: two steals and two blocks, so his minutes were good.

797
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: They want to rob though. We saw a little bit

798
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: hack a Mitch Yah as Iron Eagle said, hack a Mitch.

799
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: They're going to hack a Mitch. Grand Hill said, what

800
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 3: did you say? I didn't think he said hack Mitch.

801
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And then Iron Eagle said, you think I

802
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: was Wayne Brady for a second, did you?

803
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: He's freaking quick?

804
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: That's good.

805
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like theay to go.

806
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: That's just like sideways from Grant Hill's favorite poutine joke.

807
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an inside joke.

808
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: Maybe he loves a slightly different word music too.

809
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 4: Anything else from this one Nick's pistols.

810
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: I thought that was a Pistons paced game. You know,

811
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: it was only fourteen to thirteen fast break points, but

812
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: they played pretty fast, which was kind of weird because

813
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: you would hear Josh Hart he did the third quarter

814
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: interviews like we got to play faster. I was like,

815
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: wait a second here. I feel like the Pistons are

816
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: doing great by playing faster, but Josh Hart is the

817
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: guy that wants to play faster because he's the fast

818
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: break guy. On the next everybody else is pretty slow.

819
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 2: We're being honest, but I thought good stuff from Detroit

820
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: to play their style game.

821
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and heart took off. We barely talking about. He

822
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: took a hell of a fall there too, man sort

823
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 4: of like, I guess that was the one where Kate

824
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: threw a little chicken wing obviously attacking, and then he

825
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: got off ballance and he landed with a thud. We'll

826
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: see what happens in game six. This is a fun series.

827
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 4: Detroit se everything's gonna win. In the Pizza Box final

828
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 4: game last night.

829
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: We knew it was coming.

830
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 4: It was only a matter of time. Jamal Murray pops

831
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: off for forty three points. Nuggets grabbed the three to

832
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: two lead versus the Clippers. Kitchener's final seventeen to twenty

833
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 4: six from the floor, eight to fourteen from DP. He

834
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 4: also had seven assists. He had three steals. It's his

835
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 4: sixth career forty plus point postseason game, and it leaves

836
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: the Nuggets here. One went away from advancing. Well, it'll

837
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: start with you, Trey, what your takeaways? Obviously, in addition

838
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: to Jamal Murray cooking.

839
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: Well, I think the Hawkeye saved the Denver Nuggets season.

840
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: Pretty much ended the Lakers season if we're being honest,

841
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: but it saved Denver season. The Clippers won Game two

842
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: in Denver, blew them out in LA. In Game three,

843
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: Michael Porter junior one arm at that time, Russell Westbrook

844
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: foot inflammation. Huge comeback from the Clippers during Game four,

845
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: coming back from twenty one down, might have won it.

846
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: If this gets into overtime. Instead, they get the gift

847
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: of Hawkeye counting the Aaron Gordon tip. Denver then looks

848
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: great playing at home in Game five. Now it's a

849
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: must win for the Clippers in Game six. They have

850
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: all of the momentum after this one, and it felt

851
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: like it was gonna be a big Jamal Murray night

852
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: when we were doing the show yesterday. And then he

853
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: gets a dunk out of the pick and roll in

854
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: the first two minutes of the game. You're like, oh,

855
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: he's got his legs. Bad news for the Clippers. And

856
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: it was because it didn't matter who was gardener. Chris

857
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: Dunn stayed on the floor for quite a bit of

858
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: this game.

859
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 4: He was hit threes.

860
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: He couldn't handle Jamal Murray. Though. You look at what

861
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: the Nuggets got from Jokic, thirteen points on thirteen shots

862
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: and they win in a blowout. You would have never

863
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 2: picked that. He did finish with a picking with a

864
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: triple double, of course, but just awesome stuff from Murray,

865
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: great shot making. He had guys draped all over him

866
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: for a lot of these and it just didn't matter.

867
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: When he's in a flow, he's gonna score.

868
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, Coach Lou said, we knew in Game five Murray

869
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: would come out aggressive and he made every shot, pull

870
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: up threes, mid range. We blitzed them, we dropped, we switched,

871
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: we did a lot of different coverages. But he had

872
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: a hell of a game that was They were all

873
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: sort of saying that after it's like, what do you

874
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: do when he's like, we've seen it before, it's been

875
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: a long time. Maybe you got to go back to

876
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: the bubble right to play off. Jamal Murray really cooking

877
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: like that in a postseason game, but he was sort

878
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: of unstoppable. In addition, you got Westbrook coming back and

879
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: he was amazing in the first half to give them

880
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: some breathing room.

881
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, we may look back at it this

882
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: series as a game they lost the Clippers did with

883
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon's dunk. If you want to really look into it,

884
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: the game one where they were by far the better team,

885
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: but giving it away like sloppy Joe's twenty times. Those

886
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 3: twenty turnovers were very important. They gave that game away.

887
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: If they do lose this series, I think those are

888
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: the things you look back at. But at this particular game,

889
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: this is just a good Denver Nuggets offense. You couldn't

890
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: stop them, You really couldn't. And it was funny to

891
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: hear Jamal Murray after such a scorching game, asked postgame

892
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: about playing with Nikola Jokich, one of the best ever

893
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: he had. He had a stinky game. Nikol Jokich had

894
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 3: a stinky game. I mean, it wasn't a really good thirteen,

895
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: twelve and ten. Yeah, a triple double, that's what he

896
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: was asked about. He had four buckets in this game.

897
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: They didn't need him. Thought James Harden did a pretty

898
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: good job against him. They put James Harden guarding him

899
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: at times physically with we wouldn't allow him to get

900
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 3: the ball. But James Harden on the other end was horribla.

901
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: He was really bad. Coming off a Game four where

902
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: he had fifteen, you'd think, all right, here's a bounce

903
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: back game. Didn't happen. You know, someone you know you

904
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: score more than fifteen. But anyways, he had a bad one.

905
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: Eleven points, missed every single three he took. He just took,

906
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 3: just took two in this game. But he's averaging nineteen

907
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: points now for the series. Four turnovers and five assists.

908
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: In this game, Christan Brown was better on him, definitely.

909
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: That helped stole it off and deflected another, so that

910
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 3: was better. But they won the nine jokich mins or

911
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: excuse me, in the first half, they only lost him

912
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: by one. So with Westbrook doing what he's doing in

913
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon dude is what he's doing with this offense.

914
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: It's like top four in the league. They just were awesome.

915
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, when Westbrook is like, what, he hit

916
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: like three threes there in a pretty short span. Then

917
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: he like, who do he score on that? He dropped

918
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: a rock up baby on I forget who that was

919
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: that he scored over it, That's what it was.

920
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: He also pointed the three pointer at yeah. Yeah, they

921
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: started a weird beat out versus Bogie.

922
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 4: Okay, I think we just needs to find him going yeah,

923
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 4: talk to me.

924
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so for sure.

925
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: I do feel hey, JD turned the TikTok camera on

926
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 4: because this is to someone in particular. I feel like

927
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: I'm taking crazy pills hearing other notable NBA podcasts Sincerely

928
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: acts Surprised in the year twenty twenty five when James

929
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 4: Harden is laying a dud in a playoff game. What, like,

930
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 4: I feel like people are playing a bit on me

931
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 4: at this point. How are you possibly shocked? How and

932
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 4: you can't say, oh, he had a great regular season,

933
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: maybe had him all NBA thirteen, Like he always had

934
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: good regular seasons and always lays a playoff daughter or

935
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 4: two in every series of plays. Like I'm like baffled

936
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 4: that people were fooled or like surprised, I guess is

937
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 4: a better word. Oh my god, James Harden had had

938
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: a bad playoff game.

939
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 2: What the fuck are we doing?

940
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: What?

941
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 4: How have you been tricked again and again?

942
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: Or why do you like?

943
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 4: It's men in black memory erased every time with this guy.

944
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: It's not a surprise he took nine shots. It's not

945
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: a surprise he took nine shots. As the problem, he

946
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: just wasn't aggressive. He was Oh my god, he was

947
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: playing defense. That was the problem. He had to play defense.

948
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: He had to guard Nikol Jokic, So there's no way

949
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: to possibly give it on the other end. But I

950
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: think it's kind of like the Nuggets did great to

951
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: get wins in the two good Westbrook games. He's had

952
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: two good games. They won the first one with the

953
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: Westbrook three and then the deflection in overtime. He was

954
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 2: good in this one, twenty one points, three threes contributing.

955
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: You know, basically the Nuggets played six guys for the

956
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: majority of this game, though DeAndre Jordan got some solid

957
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: minutes as well. Almost a go to bed moment when

958
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: he blocked the shots turned into a Jamal Murray dunk

959
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: on the other end. Meanwhile, they got nothing from Harden.

960
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: So if you win the two Westbrook good moment games,

961
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: that's awesome. It's not a surprise to lose the Harden

962
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: bad games. He starts hot at the beginning of a

963
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: playoff series and tapers off as it goes down. We'll

964
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: see if he's got anything for game six because they

965
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: need him to be a double double.

966
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was sad that he didn't shoot as much,

967
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: that's for sure, and that he missed some pre throws

968
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: as well, which is weird, But it is expected that

969
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 3: he definitely tapers off. That's what happens. If anybody watched

970
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: our show on NBA TV, we had it as a

971
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 3: graphic James Harden's performance in Game one a playoff series,

972
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: in Game two of playoff series, in Game three of

973
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: playoff series, all the way to Game seven, he tapered off.

974
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: That's what happened. Is he also tapered off in the

975
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: from the first three quarters to a fourth quarter in

976
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: regular season games.

977
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 4: It's and you guys brought a good point like he

978
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 4: did an admirable job in guarding yokicch and I thought

979
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: that was a fun wrinkle from loud, like once again,

980
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 4: they're down twenty two points in the fourth quarter, like

981
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 4: they were in Game four. They came all the way

982
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 4: back in that one. Then Aaron Gordon gets the buzzer

983
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 4: beating dunk this one. They're down twenty two in the fourth,

984
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: they start making a run. They went on a seventeen

985
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: to four run like the but cheeks were getting tight

986
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 4: there in Denver. And it was a cool move by

987
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: Luda put Yolkic on excuse me, Harden on Yokic. But

988
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: I liked the counter for Adalman. It was like, Okay,

989
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: we don't need Yokic tonight with the way Murray's playing,

990
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 4: and so let's get zubots out here, bring Aaron Gordon

991
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 4: over and let those guys operate. And I thought that

992
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: was really smart counter as well. And that's when Murray

993
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 4: scored a little bit, Aaron Gordon scored a bit. They

994
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 4: had eleven ozer run and then it was like, sort

995
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 4: of go to bed, everybody, it's out of reach. But

996
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 4: I also wouldn't be surprised if this, of course comes back.

997
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 4: Of course, for a game seven to ten. You don't

998
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 4: know these two teams, man, there's they're sort of infuriating

999
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 4: in that way. It's like you like after Game three,

1000
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: you said it was like there was a lot of

1001
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: people saying, there goes to Clippers.

1002
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: They're going on, Oh, I did, for sure.

1003
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 4: And it's like the Nuggets have played so many series

1004
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 4: where they're down, like they do come back, they get

1005
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: better or maybe at least you Okic levels up and

1006
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray obviously has these performances and they do have

1007
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 4: the core of a championship team. Like Michael Porter Junior,

1008
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 4: the guy is playing with one arm, and he played

1009
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 4: a pretty good game last week.

1010
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: He was good. I thought Aaron Gordon was good as well.

1011
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think it's impressive that Michael Porter

1012
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 2: Junior is out there doing anything playing with basically one arm.

1013
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: But Gordon had twenty three points, four rebounds to assists,

1014
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: also went eight of nine at the free throw line,

1015
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: one for two from three. The guy is a shooter now,

1016
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: like he's shooting eighty one percent free throws, shot forty

1017
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: two percent in college. He really works to become a

1018
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: shoot because they need shooting on this team, and now

1019
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: it feels reliable when they kick it out to him,

1020
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: like he's not the number one guy. You want take

1021
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: in threes, but you're not scared if he's the guy,

1022
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 2: and he's definitely not scared to go to the line either.

1023
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: So I thought good top six performances for the most

1024
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: part from the Nuggets, and now they have to replicate

1025
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: that on the road. It's been one blowout each way

1026
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: and three close games.

1027
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 4: Yep.

1028
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've each took two in a row here, So

1029
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: you think the Clippers are going to respond pretty well.

1030
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Kawai probably could have a terminator game

1031
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 4: in him for sure here, like one where he's like no,

1032
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: refuses to lose and has his thirty five to forty.

1033
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he had a pretty quiet game five I know,

1034
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 4: we're yeah, eleven assists, right, I think that's his career high.

1035
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1036
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: I think it might be postseason or regular season or

1037
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: maybe tied. It fun series, fun game and as school

1038
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: as Jamal Murray Cook again. All right, let's get to

1039
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 4: the updown report. All right, the up down Report. We

1040
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 4: haven't done this in a while. Thumbs up for thumbs

1041
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: guys and everybody on YouTube right now play along or

1042
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: play along after podcast listeners, Jump on Twitter if you

1043
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: want to play along. Spurs Guard Stefan Castle has won

1044
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 4: the NBA twenty twenty four to twenty five Rookie of

1045
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 4: the Year Award. Castle received ninety two of the first

1046
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: place votes. Resachet of the Hawks earned five first place votes.

1047
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 4: He finished second, and the Grizzlies Jail and Wells got

1048
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: the other three first place votes. Up or down on

1049
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 4: Castle being selected as the Rookie of the Year.

1050
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: I'm going up congratulations to Stefan Castle. I do like

1051
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: the guy that he battled with when it comes to

1052
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: this award. Zachary resa Chet and him could both definitely

1053
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 3: be All Stars. They could definitely be good players. But

1054
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: I do think during the season Stefan Castle did play

1055
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: more important minutes. He definitely played more towards the end

1056
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 3: of games. And I know our man John Schuman said,

1057
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: don't worry about clutch minutes. That doesn't mean anything. Sometimes

1058
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: a team can go up six points and you're not

1059
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 3: playing in a clutch minute, and the stats don't keep

1060
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: because you're up six mens. But Stefan Castle played in

1061
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 3: twenty six clutch minute games and Zacharissa Che only played

1062
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: an eleven. And I watched Atlanta Hawks games and he

1063
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: just wasn't there. Towards the end of games, and even

1064
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: though Stefan Castle's minutes got more important when Wemby went down,

1065
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: he stayed extremely efficient. He stayed exactly the same even

1066
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: though he was shooting more and had more opportunities. So

1067
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: that guy that you often saw come off the bench

1068
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: to start the season and you know, get that rep

1069
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: as here comes this dunk contestant, participant, all of that

1070
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: was his mo. But now he's just turning into a

1071
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: good player. So I'm totally okay with that. Even though

1072
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: I'm here and I was true trading cheering for Zacharisa

1073
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: Che because he also along with you know Castle, and

1074
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 3: how he stayed to exactly what he was even though

1075
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 3: he had more shots. Recearche got better as the season

1076
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: went along. In twenty twenty four of this season, he

1077
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: shot twenty nine percent from three, but January first and

1078
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: after he shot forty percent from three, So a good

1079
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: sign either way. Congrats to Stefon Castle, he deserved it.

1080
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 4: The fourth Spurs player to win Rookie of the Year

1081
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: back to back him and Wemby and then obviously Duncan

1082
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 4: Robinson and Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Sorry, somebody else did.

1083
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: Daily was built, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1084
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Anytime there's a back to back Rookies of the Year,

1085
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: I start thinking of the LA Dodgers in the nineties.

1086
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: They had five guys win Rookie of the Year consecutively,

1087
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: Eric Carros, Mike Piazza, Raoul Mond to See, Cadeo Nomo

1088
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: and Todd Hollinsworth. Bet you didn't think you were going

1089
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: to hear those Now today I think this is more

1090
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 2: of an Eric Carros, Raoul monda See than a Mike Piazza. Sure,

1091
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: but still I think task nailed it. Very similar cases

1092
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: for Castle and Risha Cha. They were big parts of

1093
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: their lineup in the first half of the year, got

1094
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: better as the year went on. Castle was just probably

1095
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: a little bit better playing with Wemby the up until

1096
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: the All Star Break. Thirteen A game, three rebounds, three

1097
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: and a half assists. After the All Star Break, when

1098
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: Wemby went down a lot more opportunity eighteen A game,

1099
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: five rebounds, five assists, Andy was the MVP of the

1100
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: Rising Stars game, which probably put him over the top.

1101
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: What happened to the Jalen Wells pick he the.

1102
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: Grizzly started stinking and he started playing worse, So that's

1103
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: why he got third.

1104
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and of course I think it would have been

1105
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 4: in if Jared McCain had played the entire season too,

1106
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: he probably wins.

1107
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if he keeps playing as well as he

1108
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: did for twenty games.

1109
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 4: I mean, we had a guy win at Rookie of

1110
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: the Year scoring fourteen point seven points per game, which

1111
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 4: is the lowest sense what Malcolm Brock did won the

1112
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: award way back in twenty seventeen, so nobody obviously filled

1113
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 4: it up in terms of scoring. I think Jared McCain

1114
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: would have probably scored more, But you're right, I mean,

1115
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 4: he just did it over small stretch. Who's to say

1116
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 4: he doesn't peter.

1117
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: Out based on scouting eventually, But yeah, I'm excited to

1118
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: see him back.

1119
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, but castle, Yeah, playing in eighty one games, that's

1120
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 4: something there as well, So good for him winning Rookie

1121
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: of the Year.

1122
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: All right.

1123
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: Next one news broke yesterday that the Sacramento Kings and

1124
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: interim coach Doug Christie are finalizing a multi year contract

1125
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: to make him the franchise's next head coach, get rid

1126
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 4: of the interim tag. Sacramento went twenty seven and twenty

1127
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 4: four this season after Christy took over for Mike Brown.

1128
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 4: Trey will start with you here up or down on

1129
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: the Kings hiring Doug Christy as a full time head coach.

1130
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 2: I think I'm sideways trending down on this one because

1131
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: at first I was like, who, what's the big deal

1132
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: with Doug twenty seven and twenty four? But you look

1133
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: into it. They started twenty and eleven when he took over,

1134
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: which means they ended seven and thirteen blown out at

1135
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: home in the play in game. You can argue it

1136
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: gives them some semblance of stability since he is, you know,

1137
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: a Sacramento legend. He's been part of the coaching staff

1138
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one, was a broadcaster prior to that.

1139
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: But the reason I'm trending down is because it looks

1140
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: like they didn't look around at all. It's like they

1141
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: had their backup for Monte McNair and Scott Perry immediately hired,

1142
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: and then they just hire this guy who has been around,

1143
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 2: who was the interim coach and is a team legend.

1144
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: You have to think that the Kings would probably benefit

1145
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: from getting some sort of a new voice around. So

1146
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: that's why I'm a little like, eh, I mean, I

1147
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: think he kind of deserved it because they were I

1148
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: don't know, were they better with him than Mike.

1149
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: I think it was comparable indug defense. I guess they

1150
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 4: were like eleven and six when darn Fox was there.

1151
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 4: After Christy took over, and obviously then they trade him

1152
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 4: and that changes your whole makeup of your team. You know,

1153
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 4: I'm a point guard really, so yeah, but I'm with you.

1154
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: I'm sort of like, man, I guess sure. Like Scott

1155
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 4: Perry just got hired as a general manager. He said

1156
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 4: he was going to take time to evaluate Christy and

1157
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: look at other options, and it took. It took about

1158
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 4: a week, and we're like, all right, let's just give

1159
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 4: Doug a Doug Christy the chance here, who he does

1160
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 4: say like, has a really good rapport with his players

1161
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 4: and they do seem to respect him, so we'll see

1162
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: what he can do here.

1163
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more concerned with the team that Scott Perry builds,

1164
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 3: and I am sort of met on this, but I

1165
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 3: am positive about Scott Perry and so I do think

1166
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: that he has faith in Doug Christy what he puts

1167
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: on the bench as far as the roster goes is

1168
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: the important part for me. But Scott Perry's been around

1169
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: for a long time, and I don't know what his

1170
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: plan is for the players, or what his plan is

1171
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: for Doug. Really is it, let's just see what you

1172
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 3: do for a while, and you kind of are just there.

1173
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 3: Not that we'd call him a lame duck because they

1174
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: just gave a freaking extension, but it seems like coach

1175
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 3: kind of a He's like.

1176
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: I'll let okay, you took over, you did, Okay, you

1177
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 4: didn't like it wasn't brutal, so we'll give you the contract. Well,

1178
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 4: I try and figure out this team, and I get

1179
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 4: a year or two or three to sort of play with,

1180
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 4: and then we'll sort of reassess how you're actually doing

1181
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 4: as a real head coach.

1182
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: Now.

1183
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 4: I guess Christy is expected to restructure his entire coaching

1184
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 4: staff in the offseason as well, and we'll get more

1185
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 4: of saying who he wants to bring in and they

1186
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: should get him some probably some other veteran guys alongside him.

1187
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 4: But I hear what you're saying. I think that's sort

1188
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 4: of what Perry's thinking here.

1189
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, And every coach can be axed really what it

1190
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 3: comes down to in the NBA currently, And so maybe

1191
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 3: it's a cheap contract even though a lot of coaches

1192
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: are getting paid a ton of Maybe it's Vivek round A,

1193
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: Dve likes the contract that Doug Christie's signing it. We

1194
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 3: don't know, but I am more concerned with the roster

1195
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 3: that Scott Perry builds because we've just seen the same

1196
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: team ish, you know, I would I should take that back,

1197
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 3: and it's not the same team, but just this mediocre

1198
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 3: team for a while now, you know, other than the

1199
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: playoff run seven games, it was a good one.

1200
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 4: I wonder if it's is it possible that Scott Perry

1201
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 4: does reach out to some of these more notable names

1202
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: who just got let go, you know, be it Jenkins

1203
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 4: or Malone or whoever, and they were like not interested

1204
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 4: in coaching the Sacrament of Kings, And maybe you're looking

1205
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 4: at the landscape of the NBA thinking there'll be a

1206
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: better and more enticing offer, maybe Michael A coming back there.

1207
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: Well yeah, very good point.

1208
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: Good point.

1209
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably not, probably, I wonder, But then again, maybe

1210
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: it's just he's got confidence in Doug.

1211
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: I think the vivic piece is a huge part of it.

1212
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: You know, the reporting after Monte McNair was let go

1213
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: was that it wasn't even his choice to fire Mike

1214
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: Brown and bring in Doug Christie. And then you look

1215
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: at who's getting hired, Doug Christie, so you would have

1216
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: to think this is maybe a vivid call, and maybe

1217
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: that's why Scott Perry is in the role he is.

1218
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: I'll just note that the last three Kings coaches Dave

1219
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: Jaeger three seasons, Luke Walton two and a half, Mike

1220
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: Brown two and a half.

1221
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, so but that's that's the line. Obviously he said

1222
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 4: it for you.

1223
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1224
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 4: Uh well, well we're gonna know it was the vexed

1225
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 4: choice here to run with Doug if they start doing

1226
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 4: the thing that he wanted to do, which was cherry picking,

1227
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 4: I believe. Yeah, four on five, that's right. Yeah, so

1228
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 4: play defense with four guys, just keep one guy down

1229
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 4: at the other end. So if they do that, if

1230
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: Christy tries that, like early in the season, then we're

1231
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 4: gonna have who do you think would get to be

1232
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: the cherry picker? Okay, who are you taking off?

1233
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1234
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 4: Really, who's your worst defensive players? What we're getting guys,

1235
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 4: so is it. The problem is which of the three

1236
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 4: is gonna be? They're gonna be fighting just to be

1237
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 4: who's the cherry.

1238
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: Allison Keegan Murray. We're actually going two on five.

1239
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be down here. You guys just

1240
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 4: couln't stop, all right? Next one here in the updown report,

1241
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: two time MVP Steve Nash is joining Amazon's NBA studio

1242
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 4: and game coverage for its inaugural season. According to Insider

1243
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: Mark Stein, Nash is going to reunite with former Dallas

1244
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 4: Mavericks teammate Dirk Novitski, who commented on the news by

1245
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 4: saying he will quote have to carry Nash once more. So,

1246
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 4: Dirk already taking a shot at his buddy Nash. There,

1247
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: I'll start with your tests. Are you up or down

1248
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 4: on Nash joining Amazon's NBA coverage?

1249
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: Nice, There's no way he can be down for Stevie Nash.

1250
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll be funny. Wow. People are saying, what what?

1251
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 4: Well? Okay, no, you go ahead, you make your kiss.

1252
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: I don't really have much of a case to make.

1253
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: I think he'll be funny. I think he understands that

1254
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: coaching ain't all that it's meant to be. He was

1255
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: a coach of Brooklyn Nets. He got fired. Now he's

1256
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: just chilling in a studio pregame of postgame. Is he

1257
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 3: doing games?

1258
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm not sure about. Like, because they

1259
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 4: already have Dirk, they already have Blake Griffin Leeds studio

1260
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: host is Taylor Rooks. I mean, you're adding another person

1261
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 4: in Nash, who's very similar for being honest to those

1262
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 4: other two guys in terms of I think humor. Yeah,

1263
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 4: in Dirk and Blake, that seems like overkill. So I

1264
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 4: don't know. Maybe he's maybe Steve Nash will be doing

1265
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 4: more games than studio analysis. But then Nash had a butt, well,

1266
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 4: he had some experience doing soccer studio. He did this

1267
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 4: soccer analysis. He was in a studio. No one remembers this,

1268
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: but like the eighteen nineteen and nineteen twenty seasons he

1269
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 4: was for Turner Sports ua FA Championships League.

1270
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: He was in studio.

1271
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 3: Because I can't remember beyond yesterday, how many games a

1272
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: week does Amazon have though? Maybe they've got multiple Yeah, different.

1273
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: Because they got Dwayne Wade and Candas Parker as well.

1274
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 2: Like they've got an awesome starting five of analysts. Yeah, Wade, Candace, Dirk,

1275
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 2: and Blake. That's almost like actual basketball person l team.

1276
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good team.

1277
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1278
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 4: So Iron Eagle, who we just talked about, who we love.

1279
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 4: He's earmarked as the platform's number one play by play announcer.

1280
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: We know that.

1281
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: And then we just learned from the Athletic that T

1282
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 4: and T Stanpan Gundy, he's been hired by him is on.

1283
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 4: He is going to be a game analyst. Cassidy Hubberth,

1284
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 4: we know is going to be on the sidelines. She's

1285
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 4: coming from ESPN. So yeah, I don't know where Nash

1286
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 4: slots in here.

1287
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 3: They do have a lot of games though. My listing

1288
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: here is that they take over on Thursdays after the

1289
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: football season. They take over Fridays after the football Oh no, no,

1290
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: they have Fridays before the football season ends. Okay, sure,

1291
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 3: ESPN takes over after that, and then Saturdays as well.

1292
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 3: ESPN through the weekend games are likely going to come

1293
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 3: during the second half of the season of Saturdays. That's

1294
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 3: why it's complicated. There's a bunch of different sequence where

1295
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 3: they have Thursday, Friday, and Saturdays, so they've got a

1296
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 3: lot of games. It feels like, okay, and I think

1297
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 3: they have Black Friday as well, and the NBA Cup

1298
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: in Season tournament. So they've got lots man.

1299
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 4: So t K, you're you're up on this Nash joining

1300
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: this team here, Yeah, sure, even though we don't know

1301
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 4: what he's doing.

1302
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've seen some clips from his podcast

1303
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 2: with Lebron James. Seems like if you want to get

1304
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: a job in the NBA, a good place to start

1305
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: is co hosting mind at the game. Yeah, you can

1306
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: show off what you know about basketball and then use

1307
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: that to your advantage. I saw him talking about how

1308
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: come every time he would dribble underneath the hoop it

1309
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 2: would always work. Nobody had ever seen it before. Yeah,

1310
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: I watched that stuff. Yeah, so I don't know what

1311
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: to expect from Steve Nash. I've been optimistic everywhere he went.

1312
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: I couldn't wait to see that soccer coverage with Tierry Henree.

1313
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to be a good coach

1314
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: with the Brooklyn Nets. Now I don't remember anything about

1315
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: the soccer and the Nets thing didn't go well. We'll

1316
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: see what happens. But I like the idea of Perryot

1317
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: with Dirk Novisky. Maybe they can recreate some famous photos deck.

1318
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 4: That could be very fun. And obviously he does have

1319
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 4: a sense of humor, and I think that is important

1320
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: with one of these shows. And like they can't try

1321
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: and they can't try and replicate inside they can. They

1322
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 4: shouldn't do that. They got to find their own voice

1323
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 4: and become their own thing. But yeah, if it's Dirk

1324
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 4: Blake and Taylor Rooks and then maybe Nash or not,

1325
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 4: I mean it's a hell of a start. It's promising.

1326
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 4: It makes sense that they would have some fun and

1327
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 4: be able to talk about the game. And I think

1328
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 4: that's what people want, right, They want that balance that

1329
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 4: maybe sometimes inside you know, swerves too far to the

1330
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 4: just entertainment. So you could argue maybe that's in some

1331
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: cases it works when it's a forty point blowout, they're like,

1332
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 4: let's just clown on each other and run to the

1333
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: board real slow and fax, you know, punch each other.

1334
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: That's good.

1335
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 3: Wade did of the Olympics with Noah Eagle. Yeah, as

1336
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: far as on the Games, so maybe he's the Games guy.

1337
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: Maybe was that clear that Waite?

1338
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I don't think Wade is officially. I thought

1339
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 4: it wasn't official he was with I thought he was

1340
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 4: NBC because he did.

1341
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: The going by what awful announcing.

1342
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he maybe still hasn't really officially signed.

1343
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: NBC has Tariko Noah Eagle, Uh, Terry Gannon I think

1344
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 4: is another play by play guy, and then they have

1345
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 4: Jamal Crawford and Reggie Miller as game analysts, and they

1346
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 4: have Carmelo Anthony in studio. I know that's who they've

1347
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 4: That's the the NBC brand right now. And then obviously

1348
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 4: there's TNT that are just like leasing inside the NBA

1349
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: at ESPN's still gonna be really weird. Uh. Final one here,

1350
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 4: the NBA is considering another change to the format of

1351
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 4: its All Star Game, and this time there could be

1352
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: an international twist. Okay, I'm quoting Adam Silver here. He

1353
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 4: told us to the Athletic Our All Star Game will

1354
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 4: return to NBC next season in the middle of their

1355
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 4: coverage of the Winter Olympics. Given the strong interest we've

1356
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: seen in international basketball competitions, most recently in last Summer's

1357
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 4: Olympics in Paris, we're discussing concepts with the Players Association

1358
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 4: that focus on NBA players representing their countries or regions

1359
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: instead of the more traditional formats that we've used in

1360
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 4: the past. TK up or down on the NBA considering

1361
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 4: a new international format for the All Star Game, always

1362
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 4: going sideways.

1363
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: I'm going sideways because it's hard to think any of

1364
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: these are gonna work, But why not try keep trying,

1365
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: because after all, as Adam Silver said, it's not lost

1366
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: on us that we're going to be in the home

1367
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: of the twenty eight Summer Olympics, will be competing in

1368
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: the arena into it where the basketball competition will take

1369
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: place in the twenty twenty eight Olympics. People are gonna

1370
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: turgle an into the twenty twenty six All Star International

1371
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: Tournament because they know it's the same court as the

1372
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: Summer Olympics two years later. You gotta get people excited

1373
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: for that. Further down the line Summer Olympics. Honestly, as

1374
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: long as it's not what they did last year, anything

1375
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: is better. Well that means no tournament, then well, this

1376
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: is gonna be a tournament.

1377
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 4: I don't think it is. Maybe I think I think

1378
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 4: they're leaning towards Fine, Fine, Fine, we're gonna do USA

1379
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 4: versus the World. Fine, we'll give it to you, because

1380
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 4: that's what a lot of people keep saying we'll fix it.

1381
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 4: I think there were a lot of other quotes like

1382
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 4: they were leaning like the tournament did not work, No,

1383
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 4: the little mini games. So I think it's gonna be

1384
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 4: one game. And if I'm guessing mantask, I think it

1385
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 4: is going to be obviously a team USA versus some

1386
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 4: sort of world group, because otherwise, how are you doing

1387
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: it if it's not a tournament.

1388
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 3: Well, I want to say, first, it has to be

1389
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 3: a basketball game. Like there's no Kevin Hart, no mister Beast,

1390
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 3: no executive, whole studio crew during the game talking about

1391
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 3: things because that tournament wasn't even a tournament. They were

1392
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 3: sitting there for two and a half hours. Players joke,

1393
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: played a little bit, and then they sat forever. It

1394
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: wasn't a basketball game. So that's the first thing. And

1395
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: then yeah, we have to talk about whether or it's

1396
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 3: a tournament or not. And there's the talk about copying

1397
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 3: the NHL's Four Nations tournament, which look National Pride. I'm

1398
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 3: all up for. That's exciting stuff, but that's that was

1399
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 3: a four team tournament over nine days. It was very long, yeah,

1400
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 3: super long.

1401
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it did massive ratings. It was amazing.

1402
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 3: Oh people love their national pride. I was watching, I

1403
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 3: loved hearing the finish national anthem. That's great. I loved it.

1404
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: And it's fun. Elbows up everybody, let's do it. But

1405
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: what is it going to be on the basketball floor?

1406
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: If it was it was going to be a tournament? Yeah,

1407
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: could you could have two games on the Friday night

1408
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 3: and then those teams play on Sunday.

1409
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 4: So what teams are we doing in this tournament thing?

1410
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 4: Obviously USA? And then what are you are you doing

1411
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 4: at Canada and like a europe and then the Oceanic team.

1412
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a bit of the issue. Canada as

1413
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 3: a billion players, they could easily have a team France.

1414
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 4: Okay, but can I push back on that, like, yeah

1415
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 4: they could, but that doesn't mean they're All Star worthy

1416
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 4: Canadian players. That's like, that's this is the easy part

1417
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 4: to be like, what are we doing here now?

1418
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1419
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably just going to be one game USA

1420
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 3: versus the world on Sunday. But that being said, there

1421
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: was four hockey teams that played. They weren't all all stars.

1422
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 4: No, I know so, but even an all star game

1423
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 4: that was honestly completely something else. It was like a

1424
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 4: mini Olympics to get everybody excited about the Winter Olympics

1425
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 4: happening in twenty six.

1426
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 3: Well, the All Star Game is poops anyways, so why

1427
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 3: not try something entirely different. There's enough to floor a

1428
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 3: US team, a Canna team. There's no doubt this is

1429
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,479
Speaker 3: just an option. We're just spitballing here. There's a billion

1430
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: Canadian players, there's billion American players. There's enough French players

1431
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 3: to suit up, especially for just two games. You don't

1432
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 3: have to have fifteen guys. I'm not going to go

1433
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 3: through every Rudy Gobert and and Nicolo Bitoom, but there's enough. Okay,

1434
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 3: there's enough Australians anyways. It's not going to be that.

1435
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: It's not it's not going to be that. I mean

1436
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 3: that would be best for national pride, because USA versus

1437
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: the world is good enough on the American side, but

1438
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 3: for the world side, I don't know.

1439
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: I don't know a p It's funny to just think of,

1440
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: like you're listing these nations, it's like they probably want

1441
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 2: Luca and it. I don't think Slovenia has enough play team.

1442
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: Greece probably doesn't have enough, so it has to be

1443
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: like it's almost got to be the Ryder Cup, right,

1444
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: It's got to be tam USA versus what do they

1445
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: play the Europeans best Europeans, like, yeah, and they put

1446
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: all the nations together to take on the Americans and

1447
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: the golf turn and.

1448
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: We did this in the Rising Stars, right, yeah, we've

1449
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 3: done it. Yeah, it was the USA versus the World right.

1450
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh they did yeah, yeah, very memorable.

1451
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: Don Bogdanovich made it.

1452
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well fridays aren't rememberable and also weekends anyways.

1453
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 2: Also didn't the Four Nations tournament took like nine days exactly.

1454
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

1455
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 2: It was the Olympics.

1456
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 4: It was a little hockey Olympics. It was not an

1457
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 4: All Star Game.

1458
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: They does something built into the NHL, like they always

1459
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: take breaks for international tournaments, right yeah yeah.

1460
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: And now with the All Star Game, we literally have

1461
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: four days off after All Star weekend. Like they literally

1462
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: have seven days from Friday to Thursday. They had last

1463
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 3: year off, so you could, yeah, push it a little bit.

1464
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: I mean you don't just laughing because we can't even

1465
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 4: get them to play one basketball game and like, well

1466
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 4: what about this though, what if we just did an

1467
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 4: entire Olympics?

1468
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, week is weird. Week is weird. That's why the

1469
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 3: Friday is Anyways, the USA versus the World is what

1470
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: it's gonna be. And if Luca and Shaye and Wemby

1471
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: and Jokic, that's a freaking good team that's playing against

1472
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 3: the Americans and there might be some national pride, is

1473
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 3: what happened with the NHL. Guys were excited to have

1474
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 3: their country on their chest. That being said, you know

1475
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 3: what if it says, what's it gonna say? What's the

1476
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: what the emblem we're gonna be?

1477
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:46,959
Speaker 2: And Earth?

1478
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 4: I mean, what was it gonna be cool on Earth

1479
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 4: with America crossed out on the globe?

1480
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: I mean it's probably USA, Canada and then like Eastern Hemisphere,

1481
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: Western Hemisphere, Northern Hemisphere, Southern Hemisphere. There's too many continents

1482
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 2: left over. There will only be four teams. We get

1483
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: they're not going to combine in Canada and do North America.

1484
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 4: No, no, oh geez.

1485
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: Though that makes the most sense if you're like trying

1486
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: to break it down into four teams.

1487
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well you guys want to hear who would

1488
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: be on the German team. They'd be pretty solid.

1489
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: Fronz and mo Ops. They're bringing oaps over.

1490
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 3: Tristan too. Silva can play for okay, Isaiah Hartenstein can

1491
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 3: play for them, Ariel Party can play for them.

1492
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

1493
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:36,959
Speaker 3: Anyways, they could.

1494
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,919
Speaker 4: They could if they actually did this though what you're saying,

1495
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 4: and maybe they do, like the Ford what was it

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Speaker 4: called for nations?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Nations, so it's like eight or to ten guys.

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Speaker 4: But if they did this, would not would they also

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Speaker 4: name like would we just name all stars? And then

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Speaker 4: you know a player that wouldn't be on one of

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Speaker 4: those like nations? Like just gets it off, like we

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Speaker 4: have to name all stars still just for history, I think,

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Speaker 4: like of course, so why why why? Because it's on

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Speaker 4: their basketball reference. You just can't stop.

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Speaker 3: Maybe as a case to get into the Hall of Fame. Sure, yeah,

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Speaker 3: okay fine, but honestly, who cares? Who cares it?

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Speaker 4: I'm on record saying cancel the All Star or two

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Speaker 4: and then guess what they'll bring it back and be like,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, it's start games back.

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Speaker 2: I know that would work.

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Speaker 4: They're not gonna do it because they obviously NBC is like,

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Speaker 4: what the hell, we just paid billions of dollars for

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Speaker 4: this thing. We want an All Star game or something?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's on you. NBC, But that was also the

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 3: lowest watched All Star game in NBA history last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess can't get much worse.

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Speaker 4: Holder, Yes it can. You you've said this three years

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Speaker 4: in a row. It can't get worse. It can't get worse.

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Speaker 4: Every year it gets worse.

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Speaker 3: Well, that wasn't an All Star game. Watching watching mister

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Speaker 3: Beast give something away on the floor is not an

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Speaker 3: All Star game.

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Speaker 2: I agree that one of the best moments. Yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 2: mister Beast. By the way, he's got a nice jump

1525
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: for I saw threes this week. Why was it him

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 2: or was it Michah Potter? I don't know. Can it

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01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 2: get worse? You were just telling me Ariel hook Porty

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Speaker 2: is gonna be a.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to say, that's the only reason why

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01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 3: I included as part of the French team. My bad,

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01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 3: my bad, it's forget all right.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's hear. Obviously we're heated about this. We're the

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01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 4: only people that care about this still. But you tell

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Speaker 4: us in the stream team what should they do? You

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Speaker 4: like this idea? You like the nation's idea? Do you

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Speaker 4: like the team USA versus the World idea? Something else?

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Speaker 4: Cancel it?

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Speaker 2: What do you want? I like it. Part of the

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Speaker 2: All Star Game now is just complaining about every year,

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01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: every year we're trying something new. That's true, put them

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Speaker 2: in jerseys. Put them in their jerseys.

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Speaker 3: Here's what all happened.

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Speaker 2: People like, Okay, the players arenna wear their jerseys, their

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01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: city jerseys. Sorry, suckers, you have no idea who these

1545
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Speaker 2: guys are.

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Speaker 4: Five, Who the hell is it for? All right, let's

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Speaker 4: call it there.

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Speaker 2: That's the way to do it. Elevation. Our players are

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Speaker 2: born there. The Sea levelers are taking on the mountaintoppers. Interesting.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, maybe it could be something there. We'll call it there.

1551
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Speaker 4: We got two games on tonight, two game five, Warriors

1552
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 4: at Rockets on TNT, Wolves at Lakers on T and T.

1553
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 4: Obviously the Wolves and the Warriors trying to close out

1554
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 4: those series on the roads. So we'll see if they

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01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 4: can do that or whether or not those series get

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Speaker 4: extended to six. By the way, on tomorrow show, I

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Speaker 4: should have said this when we were talking about the

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Speaker 4: Pacers moving on. We will start our second round previews

1559
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 4: and we make our predictions with at least the Cavaliers

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01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 4: and Pacers. We'll get that one in tomorrow, probably a

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Speaker 4: couple more on Friday, so make sure you join us,

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Speaker 4: then hit the light button, subscribe, podcast listeners, five star

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01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 4: ratings and reviews until then, Clipper Rose, you.

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Speaker 2: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome, Thanks for joining us, and remember

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Speaker 3: new all star format typography. I mean where we talking.

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Speaker 3: We're talking mountins. Could be the hills, v be the

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Speaker 3: sea levels, the icebergs. I know it's the fourth one.

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Speaker 3: The plains, the plains, a lot of Midwesterners getting down there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 4: Praise today people,