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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is tj Envy, Jess, Hilarrys, Charlamagne the guy. We

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Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club Laurna Rosa filling in for jests.

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Speaker 3: And we got a special guest.

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Speaker 2: In the building.

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed we got Jalil White.

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Speaker 2: Welcome.

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Speaker 4: What's up Cat? How you feeling man, I'm doing great, man, Man,

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Speaker 4: good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you, but we'll see you. Brother. You

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Speaker 2: got your new book, Growing Up ercle a memoir?

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Speaker 5: Why you do the eighties nineties R and B cover

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Speaker 5: on the front bro sevent take.

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Speaker 1: Early eighties, early eighties.

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Speaker 2: That's the Mike jacksonsest widest post.

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Speaker 4: You know. I did it because for anybody.

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Speaker 6: Who's a fan of the Stefan character, they know that

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Speaker 6: he was debuted in a white suit.

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Speaker 2: I said that when I first thought, I said, this

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Speaker 2: is the fund he.

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Speaker 4: Was debuted in a white suit.

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Speaker 6: And then I love having fun on Instagram anyway, and

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Speaker 6: Instagram has that meme that has all four of the

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Speaker 6: of the greats.

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Speaker 4: There was like Luther vandrus H Litt.

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Speaker 6: Of Ritchie, Teddy Pedagras, Michael they all. Michael actually hit

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Speaker 6: it last, but of course he hit it the biggest,

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Speaker 6: so for a black man in the eighties or born

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Speaker 6: around that period, when you put that picture on the front,

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Speaker 6: it just means, hey, the contents are fire, but nobody

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Speaker 6: even notices.

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Speaker 1: On the back, I actually you jumping around.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And on the back I give you the high

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Speaker 6: water pants and the aircle shoes and nobody even noticed

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Speaker 6: you don't.

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Speaker 5: Got the glasses on, Rob, So you don't mind being

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Speaker 5: constafont you know, it's.

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Speaker 4: Not even about mind.

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Speaker 6: It is Stefan saved my life. Like just black women

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Speaker 6: everywhere just choose to call me to it.

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Speaker 4: When when he.

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Speaker 7: Walked in out, I was like, oh my god lit

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Speaker 7: up when you walked in. Does that happen to you

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Speaker 7: all the time? And you were like yeah, because when

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Speaker 7: you walked in, I instantly remember you walking on the

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Speaker 7: screen and be like, oh shoot, like I heard the

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Speaker 7: music and everything that.

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Speaker 4: That is wat the music and ill you know, I

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Speaker 4: love it.

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Speaker 6: They with black women in particular, but on the twenty

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Speaker 6: four episodes out of two hundred and fifteen that I did,

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Speaker 6: they only keep it on Stepan and they would just

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Speaker 6: relieved that I wasn't really like that.

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Speaker 5: I've always loved your story though, because you know you

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Speaker 5: already epitted me of you know, taking advantage of a moment.

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Speaker 5: He's an opportunity, right because you were so only supposed

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Speaker 5: to be on one episode?

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Speaker 2: Yes, how did that.

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Speaker 4: Happen again, Charlamagne?

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Speaker 6: I was I was just a black kid in one

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Speaker 6: of the saga Jenzys. So it really wasn't that deep.

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Speaker 6: My dad told me that I could get one of

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Speaker 6: anything whenever I got a job, because I was resisting

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Speaker 6: going on auditions at this point.

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Speaker 4: I was five foot four of me was ready to

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Speaker 4: play basketball.

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Speaker 6: We all get in basketball talks at some point, and

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Speaker 6: I really wasn't. I wasn't booking jobs at age twelve

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Speaker 6: too much because a lot of the stereotypical roles I

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Speaker 6: just wasn't fitting it.

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Speaker 4: My profile had.

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Speaker 6: Like I said at Braces, I'm five foot four and

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Speaker 6: I saw this audition come through and I was like,

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Speaker 6: I can get this job.

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Speaker 2: What was it? What was it? What did it say?

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Speaker 6: The description I included in the book was just, you know,

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Speaker 6: nerdy character. As a matter of fact, I was described

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Speaker 6: as a Rick Moranis type. So that just shows you

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Speaker 6: what the writer's room was already doing. The cast of

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Speaker 6: a black kid and asking for Rick moranis type. So

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Speaker 6: I actually read that literally, and then I went and

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Speaker 6: got the Best of Saturday Night Live VHS tape that

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Speaker 6: we had in our house, and I found Ed Grimley

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Speaker 4: Basically was doing a black kid's version of Ed Grimley.

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Speaker 6: And it wasn't really a good impersonation, quite frankly, but

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Speaker 6: because nobody thought that was my inspiration, it became it

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Speaker 6: became mine.

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Speaker 2: You can't trade mark, uh.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say a character, because I'm sure

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Speaker 5: you can trade our character, but the mannerisms of a

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Speaker 2: Did I do that? Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: We only think about this stuff in America?

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Speaker 3: Man, did you get the second genesis? I was just

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Speaker 3: always curious, did you.

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Speaker 1: Want to act?

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Speaker 6: Acting was just something that I just did naturally, been

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Speaker 6: doing this I was three, So you know, did you

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Speaker 6: want to do anything that.

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Speaker 4: Your parents got?

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Speaker 6: You started when you were three? It was just it

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Speaker 6: just came naturally. I didn't resist it, and I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: Of course. You always joined and enjoyed getting a day.

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Speaker 6: Off of school to go someplace and and yeah, exactly

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Speaker 6: and have some fun. But as I got to be

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Speaker 6: around the age of twelve, I didn't really want to

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Speaker 6: act and were I wanted to play play basketball. But

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Speaker 6: once I got the show, then I started getting reps

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Speaker 6: in at a different pace, right, And now, once you

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Speaker 6: get reps in, you prove yourself good at something proficient.

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Speaker 6: Like I remember the exact episode where I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 6: this is fun and this audience is my toy. And

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Speaker 6: the episode is called the Big Fix where I took

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Speaker 6: Lower on a date for the first time because Eddie

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Speaker 6: needed to pay off a bet and I leveled this

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Speaker 6: French restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Now, before we get.

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Speaker 6: To yeah, that's the first episode where I'm like, I

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Speaker 6: can hear the audience different. I can see it in

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Speaker 6: my eyes when I watched that episode.

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Speaker 3: Before we get into that part of it, Is it

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Speaker 3: true that you tried out for Rudy Huxtable that point?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did the root, that's what aint.

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Speaker 2: Rudy was poor boy.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, it was poor boy.

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Speaker 6: So there was a debate there, and you know, he

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Speaker 6: obviously went out over the network at the end and

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Speaker 6: h and.

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Speaker 4: Keisha got the role.

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Speaker 2: And how did you get.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it came down to me and her.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: They auditioned us all day.

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Speaker 6: I actually never forget that audition because they brought in

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Speaker 6: They always bring in.

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Speaker 4: Like two or three options for each role. But they

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Speaker 4: put us in one.

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Speaker 6: Room for like several hours and kept pairing us and

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Speaker 6: going in and out. And I talk about that book

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Speaker 6: as well, and and then at the end they said, hey, listen,

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Speaker 6: we are pressed for time, so we will take you. You, you,

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Speaker 6: and you and the rest of you. Thank you for

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Speaker 6: coming out. So you had all these crying kids just

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Speaker 6: pouring out of that building that had been there all day.

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Speaker 4: And I remember my mom was like.

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Speaker 6: She just had a huge reaction to that. She was like,

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Speaker 6: do you ever react like that to losing an audition?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Every I mean, that's a cold way to lose a

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Speaker 6: job when you're seven years old. Did you really understand

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Speaker 6: it to be picked right in front? And I've been

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Speaker 6: right in front because generally it happened. You know, your

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Speaker 6: agent will call you or your agent didn't call you.

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Speaker 6: And my mom was never the type to call the

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Speaker 4: And a lot of parents do that.

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Speaker 7: But did you really understand at seven years old, like,

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Speaker 7: oh my god, I'm losing this job? This is like

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Speaker 7: what this could be. You were just like a kid

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Speaker 7: and it was like no, So you cried, like what

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Speaker 4: No, Well, we were supposed to move to New York,

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Speaker 6: They had already talked to my parents through our agent

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Speaker 6: My dad was trying to figure out how to do

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Speaker 6: this from New York. They had practically said the job is.

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Speaker 4: Yours, and then a little girl came walking.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they do that kind of stuff all the

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Speaker 6: time now that I am adult and I know that,

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Speaker 6: but at the time, it was just it was just

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Speaker 6: very shocking. And then you've become a big fan of

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Speaker 6: the show, right, so you're looking at the.

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Speaker 4: Show and it's like, oh man, that could have been me. Right,

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Speaker 4: you're doing that, but that passes too.

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Speaker 2: Especially when you end up with your own iconic role

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Speaker 2: in the future.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: I didn't even look at it that way, seriously, I

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Speaker 6: just during that time, Sean. I mean, I'm telling you, man,

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Speaker 6: it's it's wild to watch fame now because everybody kind

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Speaker 6: it should come easy to them. But back then, like

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Speaker 6: you know, if you got a chance to meet Magic Johnson,

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Speaker 4: They were inaccessible. They were all talented, they were you know,

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Speaker 4: they there was an aura. Literally.

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Speaker 6: I remember the time I met Michael Jordan for the

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Speaker 6: Magic John's in Midsummer Nights Classic, and it's just like

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Speaker 6: he literally had like this little glow around him, this

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Speaker 6: black Jesus glow around him, and and it's different now,

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Speaker 6: it really is.

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Speaker 4: So you didn't think you could be that, you see

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Now, I don't think that. I don't think there is

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Speaker 4: Oh now, no celebrity has completely been deluded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 6: I'll disagree and say, there's still some people who have it.

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Speaker 4: I can you know, I can see it.

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Speaker 6: There's some people where they walk in and they have

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Speaker 6: that natural it factor where it's like, yeah, okay, you

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Speaker 6: just you affect the room, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Like even when Will Smith used to come in for

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Speaker 6: the NBA All Star Games, Like when Will was in

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Speaker 6: the room, it.

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Speaker 4: Was just different.

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Speaker 2: That's just aura though.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly so. But that's but that's traditional celebrity

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Speaker 6: this stuff. Now, like I said, it's just it can

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Speaker 6: feel real temporary and it's like you ain't got the

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Speaker 6: it factor, but.

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Speaker 4: But you got the light on.

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Speaker 3: You did the cast like you because you went from

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Speaker 3: just supposed to be one episode to taking over the

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Speaker 3: whole thing.

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Speaker 1: So did they like it?

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Speaker 3: There had to be some resentment a little bit. It's

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Speaker 3: like a kid nerdy kid coming in there.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, it was, it was weird at first.

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Speaker 4: And finally in my scene, they made you change the pants.

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Speaker 7: I was getting there. I was gonna let me finish

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Speaker 4: It's being work it out, come to the package. It's crazy, y'all.

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Speaker 6: He gives it off.

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Speaker 1: It's back to the bowl.

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Speaker 2: They James.

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Speaker 4: Bottom line, they just said no jeans in the final season.

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Speaker 7: That's an uncomfortable notetry. I feel like you said that

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Speaker 4: Four seasons of the show. You know, my mom was that.

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Speaker 6: They did so much to try to keep me attached

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Speaker 6: My mom demanded that I went to public school.

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Speaker 6: The entire time, but we didn't but we didn't have

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Speaker 4: It's like I study on set too.

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Speaker 4: And now that's the whole there's a whole thing.

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Speaker 4: So ran into problems there. And then uh, my mom found.

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Speaker 7: They didn't like the fact that your teacher was trying

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Speaker 6: No, no, I'm saying at hood school, you can't you know,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't asking the teacher to collect the home Okay,

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Speaker 6: But bottom mind is we had a good relationship and

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Speaker 4: It's awkward exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: But did you wish you got that treatment? I remember?

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Speaker 4: I don't remember.

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Speaker 6: That's when you have to remind me Cam Nicks Cam

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Speaker 2: Put him here so why would he remember you.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I told you anybody could get it for nothing.

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Speaker 6: Was I love saying this dynamic because I don't should

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Speaker 2: I was, you know.

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Speaker 4: The classes and races I was. Let me have you out.

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Speaker 6: Any black man who didn't even look like me is

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 3: They called me metal mouth and who bunch of things.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not going to that trump. But the reason

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Speaker 1: Right? And I would remember.

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Speaker 3: I was like, damn, is this happened all the time

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Speaker 6: Well, when you hoop in like people try you. You

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Speaker 4: I was there to play ball.

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Speaker 1: Fights did you get into if you don't remember.

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Speaker 6: On a basketball court, I didn't. I didn't have a

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Speaker 1: I kind of do.

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Speaker 4: And that means I probably did pretty good. And whatever

452
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Speaker 4: we was.

453
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Speaker 5: Doing, So what did you and all the others mans

454
00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:10,400
Speaker 5: kids do? And saw eating up like nobody can get.

455
00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,240
Speaker 1: Get a meeting?

456
00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,000
Speaker 8: He started seeing, he's going, I'm going with my people.

457
00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,760
Speaker 1: Which way was? Where was you? I was work right,

458
00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,240
Speaker 1: all right?

459
00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,360
Speaker 6: You know anothering that you're talking, But you didn't tell

460
00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,240
Speaker 6: me how I played though, Now you was?

461
00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:23,840
Speaker 1: You was good.

462
00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,320
Speaker 3: You were surprisingly good because everybody because everybody thought the

463
00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:29,840
Speaker 3: nerve was gonna come out, but she was good. We

464
00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,720
Speaker 3: could let you play boy, but I remember you.

465
00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,400
Speaker 8: Scrapping what point guard position you play?

466
00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:34,840
Speaker 2: Point?

467
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:35,359
Speaker 8: Okay?

468
00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,120
Speaker 7: So, because even in your book you talk about having

469
00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,040
Speaker 7: your dressing room kind of like set up like dress room.

470
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Speaker 4: My dress room was cool, addressing you.

471
00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,840
Speaker 8: Really wanted to go to the NBA like that was like.

472
00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,280
Speaker 6: Really it was about going to nb I was a

473
00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,040
Speaker 6: huge me Listen, if you grew up in the nineties,

474
00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,679
Speaker 6: the NBA just this was different.

475
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:49,880
Speaker 2: Man.

476
00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,159
Speaker 4: It landed on your life. Man, it was it was

477
00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,000
Speaker 4: everything got you.

478
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,119
Speaker 6: So I you know, once I started gaining some influence,

479
00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,880
Speaker 6: you know, you could do certain things. And the set

480
00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,720
Speaker 6: decorated for our show transformed the second room in my

481
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,800
Speaker 6: dressing room into an actual NBA locker room. So I

482
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,960
Speaker 6: had all the different lockers and you know that's where

483
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,320
Speaker 6: I would change and get ready for the show.

484
00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,200
Speaker 2: Wow, you know, did you get paid? Did you make

485
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,200
Speaker 2: money money back then?

486
00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,560
Speaker 4: You know you had, you made very good money back then.

487
00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,320
Speaker 6: But the numbers back then just they don't compare it

488
00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,280
Speaker 6: to numbers now inflation. It's one of my favorite things

489
00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,520
Speaker 6: I actually have. Is is my first time I ever

490
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Speaker 6: said on the court.

491
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,160
Speaker 4: I kept the ticket stub and I kept.

492
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Speaker 6: Them with magic shoes when he gave them to me

493
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,639
Speaker 6: after the game, and every now and then I'll just

494
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,719
Speaker 6: I'll still look at those of ticket stuff. Guess how

495
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,760
Speaker 6: much In nineteen ninety one, the face value of a

496
00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,240
Speaker 6: Laker game on the court was versus San Antonio Spurs.

497
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Speaker 5: Three fifty price maybe close to a thousand, maybe seven hundred,

498
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,119
Speaker 5: eight hundred.

499
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 4: This man knows basketball for twenty five twenty five. That's crazy, right,

500
00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 4: and so yeah for a floor.

501
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 6: So that so when you put that in perspective, nineteen

502
00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,760
Speaker 6: ninety one, four hundred and twenty five dollars face value

503
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,760
Speaker 6: on ticket to sit on the court, and you see

504
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 6: what inflation is now, it really is like I remember that,

505
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 6: teaching me about inflation was like WHOA, something's happening here

506
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,880
Speaker 6: because there's two inflations. There's the one they talk about

507
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 6: to the country, and one they talk about is going

508
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 6: on with the people that's making all the money.

509
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,560
Speaker 5: I love how you described throughout the book. You describe

510
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,600
Speaker 5: yourself as a dedicated people pleaser. You said it was

511
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Speaker 5: your mom who made you that way. Can you expound

512
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Speaker 5: on that a little bit?

513
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Speaker 1: It can?

514
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Speaker 6: You know, it can be good and bad to be

515
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 6: a people pleaser because you got to learn how to

516
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 6: say You got to know how to set boundaries, but

517
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 6: then you got to also learn how to say yes

518
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 6: enough to catch blessings that are coming out of nowhere.

519
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 6: But for me, it's always been about the audience. Experience

520
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 6: that jacked me up. You know, we take in front

521
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 6: of a live studio audience every Friday, and man, I

522
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,680
Speaker 6: look forward to that audience like you wouldn't believe, and

523
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 6: they just become your toy after a while. So, you know,

524
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 6: my mom will call me after a table reading, you know,

525
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 6: every Tuesday, and it's like, what do you think of

526
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 6: the script this week?

527
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,719
Speaker 4: And was like, eang, it's okay, you know.

528
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 6: And then there would be certain weeks like the Bruce

529
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 6: Lee week where I'm like, oh, no, get your tickets now,

530
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 6: because sometimes she would have to play games to get

531
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 6: a certain number of seats, and especially with another opposite,

532
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 6: another executive producer's wife, who would hog a lot of

533
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 6: seats and I'm like, no, no, no, go ahead and get

534
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 6: your tickets for this one. I'm gonna melt this one down.

535
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 6: So it was just always about just you know, everything

536
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 6: celebrity came from a different place than it was about

537
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 6: being excellent. It was about being on point.

538
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 4: You know.

539
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 6: We would shoot our show and we'd be done with

540
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 6: the whole episode in like just over two hours, and

541
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 6: I was so proud of that because everybody else on

542
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 6: the lot, especially if they had kids on their show,

543
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 6: it would take you know, shows would take three and

544
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 6: four hours and people wouldn't even be able to see

545
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 6: the end of the show at times.

546
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 4: But we were now two hours flat. We were done.

547
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 4: So I'm just so proud of that that kind of stuff.

548
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 5: What about Julia when he's not, you know, performing, are

549
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 5: you still dealing with being people pleasing?

550
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 6: No, not as much. You know, when you have a

551
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Speaker 6: we have a daughter. At least when you have a

552
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 6: kid and you enter the family dynamic.

553
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Speaker 4: A lot of your values just changed. They shift overnight,

554
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 4: at least they did for me.

555
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 8: It was the biggest thing. They shifted for you overnight.

556
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 4: Oh man, I got a funny story on that one.

557
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Speaker 5: No.

558
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Speaker 6: Actually, when you know, when single parents don't date, like

559
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 6: single parents prospect, they don't.

560
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: They don't date. It's different.

561
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 6: And I remember my boy was he told me to

562
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 6: come out and meet him at the club. You know,

563
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 6: he had a he had a group. At this point,

564
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 6: I'm single to ad and and I hoped in my

565
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 6: car and at the time I drove asked to Martin Repeat,

566
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 6: which is at a four door, And so I pulled

567
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Speaker 6: up at the end and he comes walking over with

568
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 6: three girls and it's like, yo, what we're doing?

569
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 4: This is before Uber? All right, it is before Uber?

570
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 4: What were doing? Where we headed?

571
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 6: And then one of the girls just reached for the

572
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 6: back door, and the baby seat was in the back

573
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 6: and the way them girls just jumped back and all

574
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 6: this it just threw off the whole chemistry for the

575
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Speaker 6: rest of the night. And it was just like, ah, okay,

576
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 6: what matters More? As a dad, I knew, I'm like,

577
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 6: I'm not taking a baby seat out. It's a painting

578
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 6: the butt putting them down baby And any dad who

579
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 6: has a baby knows that.

580
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 4: So it was like, well, that's just the way it's

581
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 4: gonna be.

582
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 6: But that was a moment where I had to accept

583
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 6: where I was just kind of like, she really comes

584
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 6: first in every aspect of my life now, and uh,

585
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 6: like it or not, even in times when I want

586
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 6: to be grown and sexy, it's going to affect it.

587
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Speaker 2: You know what I wanted to did the cast members

588
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 2: on Family Matters?

589
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: What they was?

590
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Speaker 5: It a level of hate and jealousy and envyous vianus inbianus,

591
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 5: envenous are vious.

592
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was, you know what I mean, your chance

593
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 6: to get him.

594
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: Are in hindsight? Were you really difficult to work?

595
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 4: No?

596
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, you know because Reginald Johnson said that.

597
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 6: Okay, but okay, so let me make it easy for you. Then,

598
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 6: how come how come you never heard that from the kids?

599
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 6: Kelly speaks, There is everywhere everywhere.

600
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 4: How come you never heard that?

601
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: Again?

602
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 4: You know it's it's you know, when you when you

603
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 4: leave a show.

604
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 6: First of all, the difference between movie starting and TV

605
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 6: start is when your movie start, you still a star,

606
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 6: even if you don't have a movie out. When you

607
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 6: a TV star, unless you're on TV, you're not a starting.

608
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 6: And that's just the way the business treats you. So

609
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 6: I think people go through a lot of personal traumas

610
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 6: sometimes after a show has gone off the air, divorces, investments,

611
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 6: maybe they go right, et cetera, et cetera, And it

612
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 6: causes people to look back on things with, you know,

613
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 6: kind of a jaded look.

614
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 4: And it was like, man, we had fun.

615
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: We did.

616
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 6: Even the pictures I picked out for the book. You know,

617
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 6: I wanted to show pictures of us chilling.

618
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 4: You know, I wanted to.

619
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 6: Show me Reggie and Darius, you know, chilling in Paris

620
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 6: when we shot two episodes in Paris.

621
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Speaker 4: We're the only black show to ever shoot in Europe.

622
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 4: That was a big deal. You know, we had this.

623
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 6: I'll never forget we had this giant twelve thousand dollars

624
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 6: meal at the top of an Eiffel Tower.

625
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 4: As a cast. Oh, I'm glad you asked.

626
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 6: My mom took that bill and handed the production because

627
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 6: she had the cloud to do that. But Joe Burry's there,

628
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 6: Reggie's there.

629
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: Well, we was balling at the top.

630
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 6: But again you balling, So you know, it's almost kind

631
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 6: of like when you hear Scotti Pittman talking.

632
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: About the Bulls.

633
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 6: Now, it's like, Scotty, you can't say nothing nice about

634
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 6: the bulls, you nigga, he was rock stars.

635
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 4: You and Mike didn't kick it at all. You should

636
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 4: That's how you remember it.

637
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 7: Have you recently talked to any of cats, because I

638
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 7: know Joe Marie pay and like she had come out

639
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 7: and said that you guys had a little whatever that

640
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 7: situation to each other. Yeah, Like, can you first of

641
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 7: all clarify that story because that's just a wow.

642
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 6: No, there's just there's nothing to clarify. Like I I'm

643
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 6: talking about a coworker of over thirty years ago and

644
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 6: I was a minor.

645
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 4: You don't think if there was any validity of that,

646
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 4: they wouldn't have come out.

647
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 8: I'm like, Wow, so nothing happened.

648
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 4: I mean, no, but I'm not I'm not getting in

649
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 4: it back and forth.

650
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm just doing too good getting it back

651
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 6: and forth, you know, with a woman who's over seventy

652
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 6: and I've been kind of like mentally ingrained to not

653
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 6: fight with my elders, Like, all right, if that's the

654
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 6: way you saw it, cool, it is what it is.

655
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 7: Well, she recently said on the stage I think where

656
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 7: I forget where they were at, but the cast was

657
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 7: there and you weren't there, and she said that, like,

658
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 7: you know, she wished that you were there, and if

659
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 7: you were there, she would hug you.

660
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 8: And she kind of you know that whole thing. So

661
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 8: have y'all talked or.

662
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 6: Why does what she have to say hold so much

663
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 6: more validity than what my other cast members have to say.

664
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Speaker 4: I'm just curious.

665
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 7: I think, Oh, I think that the age thing does

666
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 7: play a factor, but what you say, you know what

667
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 7: I mean, I think that definitely plays a factor as well.

668
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 7: But I think she's one of the first people that alleged,

669
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 7: like the bad stuff that I saw come out and

670
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 7: be like, man, we should just hug it out. I

671
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 7: wanted to know it made me wonder like, have y'all talked,

672
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 7: like what changed?

673
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 6: So the people that I talked to regularly is Kelly

674
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 6: and Darius, And again I don't call them Laura Eddy,

675
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 6: So I you know, I called Kelly about this book.

676
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 6: You know, we spoke extensively, and you know, Kelly called

677
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 6: me two weeks ago. But it's weird for us, by

678
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 6: the way. Also when we go out and eat or

679
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 6: anything like that. You know, we like little back rooms

680
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 6: and stuff like exactly if people saw if people saw

681
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 6: me and Kelly just at Crustaceans in Beverly Hills, and

682
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 6: what it tends to turn into a big Hey, can

683
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 6: I get a selfie fest?

684
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: So you know, damn work on one. Gotta So you.

685
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 6: Know, we we keep it private. But I have a

686
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 6: very good relationship with all the cast members who've ever

687
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 6: wanted a relationship with me beyond the show.

688
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 4: And I don't have anything negative to say about Reggie.

689
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 6: When people ask me who is your favorite scene partner,

690
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 6: I'm like the chemistry I had with Reginald vel Johnson.

691
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 4: I remember the episode where it clicked for us.

692
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 6: It's called box Car Blues, when we were stuck in

693
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 6: the train together with all these cows and Steve is

694
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 6: just getting on his nerves. And you know, Reggie just

695
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 6: couldn't look at me without breaking up, without you know,

696
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 6: without breaking character. And we just we developed this amazing chemistry.

697
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 6: But adults are adults.

698
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 4: And they're going through adult things too. And also I'm

699
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: a kid.

700
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 6: So you know what, I'll tell you one way, maybe

701
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 6: I could have been annoying. I dribbled my basketball everywhere everywhere.

702
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: If I was in school, did you let me? We

703
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 4: need you all? Said Boomo boom basketball basketball basketball.

704
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 6: Adults get annoyed when a kid is just dribbling and

705
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 6: bouncing the ball all over the place. Is that difficult?

706
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 6: How old you that talk about thirteen? Fourteen years old?

707
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I would feel like adults

708
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 5: would have a little bit more Greace.

709
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 6: I'm approaching it from a very self self aware, you

710
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 6: know standpoint.

711
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, yeah, no, that's and I.

712
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 6: Remember Joyce Web, one of our script supervisors, be like,

713
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 6: oh here it comes with a basketball, just like okay,

714
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 6: you know, Like, but if that's that that translates twenty

715
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 6: five years later to being difficult, I'll take it.

716
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: I want to talk about your first kiss.

717
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: Talk about your first kiss, because everybody would be getting

718
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: arrested and nowadays if that.

719
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 5: Was so because he's a guy, Oh and only they

720
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: don't do that to guy exactly.

721
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: So break down your first kiss sixteen years old on set.

722
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 4: He's ahead of me on this one.

723
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 6: No, we had a we had a scene man, where

724
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 6: you know, Steve and Eddie get hot at the dice

725
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 6: table and they're rolling the dice and uh, this woman,

726
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 6: you know, he's supposed to give me a kiss, just

727
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 6: playing one on me before my last dice roll, and uh,

728
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 6: during rehearsals all week, she had just pretty much given

729
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 6: me a pack. It was just a pack, yeah, because

730
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 6: you just go through the motions. But with that hot

731
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 6: live studio audience there, man, she just yo, she gave

732
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 6: me the whole she bang.

733
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 4: And so when.

734
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 6: I pulled back and this was your first time because

735
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 6: you look, yeah, I had never kissed.

736
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 4: The girl, I said, how did you know what to do?

737
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 6: No?

738
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 4: I didn't. I wasn't. First of all, I wasn't even

739
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 4: planning for that.

740
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 6: I know you're supposed to put your lips together, but

741
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 6: I didn't know that anything else was really supposed to

742
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 6: happen to that I wasn't I wasn't seasoned, it was,

743
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 6: and so she does it, and my whole my thinking

744
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 6: at the time was, do not break character, do not

745
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 6: ruin a good take.

746
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 4: You know, that's what you just kind of.

747
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 6: Taught as as a comedic actor and as a kid.

748
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 6: And so when I went to my dressing room, I

749
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 6: just kind of involuntarily tears start coming down my face

750
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 6: because I was just like, that was weird. And then

751
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 6: my dad corners me and he's like, what's wrong. Exact

752
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 6: the producer comes back, like what's wrong? And I was

753
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 6: just like, you know, like she put her tongue in

754
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 6: my mouth, surprised your mother and one, you know, so funny.

755
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 6: Everybody says that, but it was like my father was

756
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 6: present and was dealing with the issue, so there was

757
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 6: no reason to inject. And once it was revealed what happened,

758
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 6: they all started laughing.

759
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: Moment my dad's my dad left.

760
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 6: No, do not find this woman, do not troll this

761
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 6: woman at all. No, I'm serious, because it's like, that's

762
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,239
Speaker 6: one of the things that I'm very protective of is,

763
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 6: you know, we have to embrace what double standards were,

764
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 6: leave them in the past.

765
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: But it's okay, like I can laugh at it.

766
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 6: I'm saying, like from the time that it happened to

767
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 6: my dad and the executive producer coming in to me

768
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 6: walking back out on stage to do now the next scenes,

769
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 6: even the hot the crew high five, she put it

770
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 6: on you, young fella. You hung in there, you did

771
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 6: your thing, and it was like, it was very clear

772
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 6: to me. All the signals that I was getting was

773
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 6: that might have been yucky the way it went down,

774
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 6: but apparently I'm going to get a lot more of that.

775
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: So Cheesemo says, yeah, okay, all right, go with the flow.

776
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: What about the trauma you went through, because it was

777
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 5: immediately after that scene they told you that you can't

778
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: wear pants anymore?

779
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 4: You know what I see, I see how you do it.

780
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: I see how you can be here.

781
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: You know what else I want to know? Was Black

782
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: Hollywood more of a community back then?

783
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 4: Ah?

784
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 5: Could you tell a story in the book about you know,

785
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 5: connecting with Malcolm Jamal warning and putting you in the

786
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 5: afternoth commercial and you know your mom being.

787
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: Your mom being a fan of Malcolm. So I don't

788
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: know if he.

789
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 6: Was the extent the extent to which Black Hollywood was

790
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 6: putting each other on. I won't say was more of

791
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 6: a community. Uh, they are specific people who put a

792
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 6: lot of people on, Like Ice.

793
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 4: Q put a lot of people on, absolutely.

794
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 6: Like that dude, Just like John Singleton put a lot

795
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 6: of people on, like he identified talent. That's really the

796
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 6: dream I kind of have for myself because I picked

797
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 6: that up back then, of being able to recognize other

798
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 6: talent and be like you got it, you got it,

799
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 6: and that that's a pay it forward joy that's separated

800
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 6: apart from from actually being the focus. But but back then,

801
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 6: because there was just a lack of you know, cell

802
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 6: phone communication and social media wasn't what it was. The

803
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 6: connections were made more organically.

804
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: You know.

805
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 6: You you wrote a number down, you gave it to somebody,

806
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 6: you know, and.

807
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I will say that, I will say it

808
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: was just I don't know, it was different.

809
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 6: I'd helped me out on this because I feel like

810
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 6: we connected the community.

811
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: It definitely was.

812
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 6: But I'm saying to the extent that I could count

813
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 6: on somebody having the power to give me a job, No, no,

814
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 6: not not that at all, But to the extent of

815
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 6: walking in the room and seeing to Sheena Arnold and

816
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 6: Tisha Campbell and they're.

817
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: Like, jeh, yeah. It was like okay, yes, yes, absolutely,

818
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: you know.

819
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 6: And and there was also a sense of like like

820
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 6: being a part of an exclusive club, you know what

821
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: I'm saying. It was like you didn't walk into a

822
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 6: room and see another black TV star and just sit

823
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 6: at your table and just be like, oh, he's over there.

824
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 6: You typically were gonna get up and you were gonna

825
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 6: you know, you were gonna greet each other, address each other,

826
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 6: probably exchange information.

827
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 7: Was that because there wasn't a lot of people, like

828
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 7: it was just like you guys with a cream and

829
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 7: the crop.

830
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 8: It wasn't a lot.

831
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 6: It wasn't even like there was you know what we're

832
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 6: missing now is everything is niche program, so.

833
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 4: Very few people are always talking about the same thing

834
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 4: at the same time.

835
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 6: Like today, all anybody's talking about from a cultural standpoint

836
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 6: is Mike Tyson's ass cheeks because we all saw that

837
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 6: at the same time, so you know exactly. So it

838
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 6: was like even the step Fan moment where it was

839
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 6: just like a lot of black families saw that at

840
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 6: the same time when it airs, so they calling each

841
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 6: other on each other. The girl you got to see

842
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 6: him in his white suit. So it's a different connection back.

843
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 4: There, man. And I'm like, yeah, special.

844
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: Do you get tired of the Steve Rkle character, because

845
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure people have to come with you all the

846
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: time and be like the same line.

847
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 5: Well in the book, you say nothing makes you happier,

848
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 5: and when somebody recognized you as Julil.

849
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 6: Well, that makes me happy, you know when that happens.

850
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 6: And I kind of got saved by millennials. You know,

851
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 6: the Google A has helped me, It really has. I

852
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 6: can hear tone and I try to talk about that

853
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 6: in books. So you know, if a Southern grandmother comes

854
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 6: up to me and and she's you know, referencing a character,

855
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 6: that doesn't bother me as much as compared to some

856
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 6: guys in a bar who you know, they're having a

857
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 6: sausage fest in the corner and we're doing well over here,

858
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 6: and they want to bring light to that, and okay,

859
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 6: I see what you're doing now. That's Those are two

860
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 6: completely different things in terms of being tired of the.

861
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: Characters that we're doing well over here.

862
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 5: Basically, we got all the ladies, every single lady in us,

863
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 5: all right, you know what.

864
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 6: I'm saying, So that that that that that that part

865
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 6: is obvious, what the dichotomy is there. But people come

866
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 6: up to me for a variety of different reasons. Man

867
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 6: like your man outside, he was just like, yo, I

868
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 6: know about the ericle stuff, but I'm here for Sonic.

869
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: He's a I did the voice of Sound of the Hedgehog.

870
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 6: For one hundred episodes and that lands hugely with a

871
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 6: lot of people. I did two episodes of Psych that

872
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 6: people just love those two episodes of Psych. So for me,

873
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 6: it's a conveyor belt of people acknowledging me for different things.

874
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 6: And as you get older, like I said, well, my

875
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 6: focus being on my daughter, I'm a game show host.

876
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 6: Now I'm just like, look as long as you pleasant

877
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 6: and you chill, and you respectful of my family and

878
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 6: my environment. I just love being known for a good reason,

879
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 6: because in this day and age, you could be known

880
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 6: for a real sucker reason any day.

881
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: Like it's wild the sucker reason you could be known for.

882
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting what you said, even about being

883
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 5: a black people all can coming down on one moment

884
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 5: because I think about that even with you as a star, right,

885
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 5: like you have to be a certain caliber star for

886
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 5: us to know your real name, right, You know what

887
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 5: I'm saying, like like for you, for you to play

888
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: earcle so well that we know who Jalil White is.

889
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 5: That sys a lot.

890
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 7: I appreciate you know What's crazy though, For a long time,

891
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 7: maybe because I was so young, I didn't know that

892
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 7: Jelil White was your real name.

893
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 8: I thought that that was another person I did, but

894
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 8: I was so young.

895
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: I consed, I thought, and.

896
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 7: Then I knew the ste fine, And when I started

897
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 7: hearing your little White, I'm like, oh, maybe this is

898
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 7: another persona that he's taken off.

899
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: And then I got old.

900
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 7: Enough to really understand like characters and like not being

901
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 7: really you and like all that, and I was.

902
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 8: Like, oh, okay, that was just like a me moment.

903
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm just glad the light went on, thank you.

904
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 8: But speaking of.

905
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: Right, you got the n.

906
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 7: My al dollar that was back and I'm dad okay.

907
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 7: Speaking of though, I know in the book you talk

908
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 7: about the meeting that you had with the exact about

909
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 7: the remaker, the spin off, the reboot, your version that

910
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 7: you wanted to happen, in my opinion, was way better.

911
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 8: I don't know if you want to say it. We

912
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 8: want people to read the.

913
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: Book, but it was way better than what they had.

914
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 8: Pitched to you.

915
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 7: We are I mean, I guess we have to talk

916
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 7: about it because I want to know that.

917
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 8: Will we ever get that?

918
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: And can you?

919
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 8: Could you do that on your own?

920
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: Listen, First of all, you can't do it on your own.

921
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: You know.

922
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 6: That's the thing about television that people have to respect.

923
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 6: It's you know, it's the it's the only art form

924
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 6: I feel that still has gatekeeping, still very much in place,

925
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 6: and you can either be bitter about it or you

926
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 6: can fight the good fight and look for the person

927
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 6: that's gonna be your champion.

928
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 4: That's just it is what it is. I was never

929
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 4: offered a reboot.

930
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 6: I always want to make that very clear, and even

931
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 6: my vision for the show that I have, it's not

932
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 6: about me. It's about three dimensional characters that would actually

933
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: resonate and translate.

934
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty four.

935
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 6: Because I worked for the producers who coined the phrase

936
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 6: jump the shark. Fonsie jumped the shark.

937
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: He jumped over a shark.

938
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 6: Right, those are my producers, the exact same producers. So

939
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 6: you're not going to invite me to jump the shark again.

940
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 6: I was offered a blind contract and half my pay

941
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 6: of what I got for the last episode, and there

942
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 6: was no consideration.

943
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: I mean, there was no consideration given to the.

944
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 6: Adults that actually, you know, have such a large opinion

945
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 6: over what terms they would return to.

946
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: I'm like the way they were being.

947
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 6: Discussed was, well, you know, Harrod and Carl will come

948
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 6: by and they'll visit the new family every now and then,

949
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 6: Like Hollywood doesn't really they engage talent when they need talent.

950
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 6: They pay talent, and they need talent. And this isn't

951
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 6: even a black thing. I don't want this to turn

952
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 6: into a black thing. I'll hear guys like Chris Pine

953
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 6: or whatever, who's you know, He's like, I don't know

954
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 6: what they're gonna do next with Star Trek, Like I

955
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 6: love playing the character. But when they called me, they

956
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 6: called me so I'd love the opportunity to make the

957
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 6: show that that I envisioned. That was never turned down,

958
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 6: It was never pitched. I was just offered a blind

959
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 6: contract and around that they were going to develop the reboots.

960
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 7: There were two versions, though, correct me if I'm wrong, right,

961
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 7: because you said one of them you wanted to do,

962
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 7: like what's the Netflix show with the kid, the little

963
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 7: kid that we followly super smart, Yes, young Sheldon.

964
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

965
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 7: There was one version that was kind of going to

966
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 7: be like the young Sheldan from like a different perspective.

967
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 7: And then there was another version where it would be

968
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 7: you and now you're an adult and you are in

969
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 7: a relationship, but then Myra is still around at that

970
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 7: point or something was there.

971
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: I'll simplify it. You know.

972
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 6: I really feel like it could be like a young

973
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 6: rock to be quite honest. The only difference is, you know,

974
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 6: imagine if they're young Rockets started off famous and then

975
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 6: gets into reality. You know, you still want to keep

976
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 6: it light, you know what I'm saying. But I just

977
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 6: I just if you do a half hour comedy, where

978
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 6: are the story's gonna come from?

979
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: You know what? You they literally just choose to make

980
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: it up back in the day, you know.

981
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 6: And they would take stories too, from old sitcoms and

982
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 6: Happy Days whatever. They dust them off and they just

983
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 6: you know, update them a little bit. You can't do

984
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 6: that in twenty twenty four. You're gonna watch for one

985
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 6: episode and you're gonna turn that off. I asked a

986
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 6: reporter recently. I said, well, in the traditional reboot that

987
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 6: everybody thinks that they want where Steve and Laura get

988
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 6: married and have a kid that's just like hercle.

989
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 4: Would you watch that? And he said yeah.

990
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 6: For about four minutes, I said, Okay, thank you for

991
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 6: being honest with me. If I do anything, I am

992
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 6: an advocate of kids. I see exactly how young performers

993
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 6: get derailed. I want to push the agenda. I want

994
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 6: to push the legend for a kid to come play

995
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 6: a future version of me, whatever that turns out to be.

996
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 6: That kid's got to be able to get invited to

997
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 6: the Golden Globes. That kids got to be able to

998
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 6: get invited to the Emmys. And he can't look back

999
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 6: as me and looking back at me, and I'm a

1000
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 6: stain on his career.

1001
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1002
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 6: It's like I will point this out, but I won't

1003
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 6: say names because I don't want to even make them

1004
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 6: feel bad. But like the kids on Fuller House, they

1005
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 6: don't work Fuller House, the reboots, they don't work. The

1006
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 6: adults that put them in that role, they knew they

1007
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 6: wouldn't work in prestige television, in prestige film, because now

1008
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 6: casting directors will say, oh, all those are the kids

1009
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 6: from Fuller House. We want somebody, a fresh face, etcetera, etcetera.

1010
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 6: And I promise you, as parents and as kids, they

1011
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 6: didn't go into that project thinking that that was going

1012
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 6: to be a blight on their career as soon as

1013
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 6: the show was over.

1014
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: They didn't go into that.

1015
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 6: I want to make sure anybody that I work with, no,

1016
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 6: they go in with open eyes.

1017
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: This is what we stand to achieve. And it was

1018
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: so awesome watching Will Smith give it up to Quincy

1019
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 4: Jones after all all these years when Quincy.

1020
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 6: Passed, because Quincy touched his life in a positive way

1021
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 6: with The Fresh Prince, he never had to look back

1022
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 6: on The Fresh Prince like it was this show.

1023
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: He needed to get away from. So I don't know.

1024
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: That's my take on what I feel about reboots and opportunity.

1025
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 6: Let me.

1026
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: I was going to ask, was that a stain on

1027
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: your career where you had to lose racle because people

1028
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 3: always looked at you when.

1029
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: You did roles?

1030
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 6: Again, I don't look at it as I've never stopped working.

1031
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 6: It's a tough business just to work in, you know.

1032
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 6: Is it easier for some with better reps and different imaging?

1033
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1034
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 6: When I think of Harry Potter or Al Bundy. I

1035
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 6: think about those guys in those characters, but they had

1036
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 6: better reps in different images and it hasn't slowed them

1037
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 6: down at all as far as the Tgif people are concerned,

1038
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 6: I like where I've landed. You know, I've I've never

1039
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 6: stopped working. Have I have always gotten the dream job

1040
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 6: that I wanted? No, But I talk about it in

1041
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 6: the book. A couple of jobs want in particular that

1042
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 6: I wanted. They went on to become the worst fel

1043
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 6: on that year.

1044
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 4: It's like, WHOA, be careful what you want? So I

1045
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: just I don't know it.

1046
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 6: Like I said, when my daughter got here, man, a

1047
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 6: lot of stuff just crystallized for me that it was like, Yo,

1048
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 6: let's go out here, let's be a working dad, and

1049
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 6: it's a beautiful thing to come home with a check

1050
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 6: to take care of your kid, and you're doing it

1051
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 6: in a way where you don't have to give up

1052
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 6: your damn dignity.

1053
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 2: That's right. You mentioned though, Will Smith.

1054
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 5: Will Smith, you said, was the first influential black person

1055
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 5: to hire you to do something outside of family matter.

1056
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, break that down.

1057
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 6: How did you have a relationship I had seen will

1058
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 6: you know I would always cross paths with it, with

1059
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 6: NBA stuff, and you know, Will will invite me to

1060
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 6: the office everything. When he was in his offices on

1061
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 6: Third Street, I saw Will coming a mile away, just

1062
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 6: like I could identify, you know, just like I talked

1063
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 6: about ICEQB identifying talent and stuff like that. And I

1064
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 6: will actually just share the story as a matter of

1065
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 6: fact that I'm like, oh, I never would have shared that,

1066
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 6: not to violate your privacy. But I remember Charlie Mack

1067
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 6: having me over to his dressing room when he was shooting,

1068
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 6: and I was just a curious dude.

1069
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 4: I love reading scripts. I loved just devouring film.

1070
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 6: And I was in his dressing room and he had

1071
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 6: a script on the table and I asked to go.

1072
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 6: I was checking it out, and he said, oh, that's

1073
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 6: just another sci fi movie. And I'm I'm not gonna

1074
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 6: do another sci fi movie after this one. And I

1075
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 6: went to visit him again after that, and like a

1076
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 6: couple of weeks later, and when I got to the set,

1077
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 6: he wasn't there, and Charlie was like, I'm sorry, Yeah,

1078
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 6: Will was supposed to be here, but you know, Steven

1079
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 6: Spielberg sent a helicopter fo and I'm like, oh, okay,

1080
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 6: well that's.

1081
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: A good reason for him to not be here to

1082
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 4: receive me.

1083
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 6: And then months and months later after that, Will was

1084
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 6: coming out with Men in Black, and then it clicked

1085
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 6: that was the script for but he said he wasn't

1086
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 6: doing another sci fi movie. So I guess the helicopter

1087
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 6: ride was to change some opinions. So I just had

1088
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 6: this really cool relationship with Will. He was always open

1089
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 6: doors back then to me, and when he called me

1090
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 6: on the set, he called me to be on a

1091
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 6: Fresh Prince bel Air. It just meant a lot to

1092
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 6: me because he made it his personal business to put

1093
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 6: me on the show.

1094
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 5: I got two more questions. One, when did Family Matters

1095
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 5: jump the Shark?

1096
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 6: Oh man, we probably jumped the shark somewhere around the

1097
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 6: six or seventh season.

1098
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: You remember, No, I don't remember the episode he had.

1099
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 6: It.

1100
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: Just it happens gradually.

1101
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 6: You know, you start going, you just start going into

1102
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 6: port the party and coming out as too many characters.

1103
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: You know, before you know what I was, Elvis, I was.

1104
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 6: You know, we we sending Pole families to Paris and

1105
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 6: come back by standing on a teleportation device.

1106
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: I think when you moved in with them.

1107
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: I never moved in with them.

1108
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: I never moved in with them. I thought you more,

1109
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: I thought your parents.

1110
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 4: You ain't got to lie to kick it.

1111
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: I never moved I thought your parents went away.

1112
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 6: And nah, I never moved in with him though, Oh

1113
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 6: I never did. It was about like I said, it

1114
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 6: was probably around about about the sixth season, just.

1115
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: To was living.

1116
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: I was always next to your neighbor, I was. They

1117
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: never that was the thing again.

1118
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 6: Back they never showed Steve's parents. They always kept the

1119
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 6: parents this big mission.

1120
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: Your parents moved to Russia or something.

1121
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they never.

1122
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 6: They would always reference my parents. My parents were treated

1123
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 6: the same way. You remember they were follow cheers. Remember

1124
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 6: Norm's wife Vera. They they they never showed Vera, so

1125
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 6: he they would always talk about his wife at home.

1126
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 6: And that was the way you treated it back then.

1127
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 6: They never talked. They never showed the gooch on on

1128
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 6: different strokes. They always talked about the good. So they

1129
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 6: treated family matters, the character my parents the exact same way.

1130
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 4: You couldn't do that in this day and AA.

1131
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 6: This day and age wouldn't take that kind of just

1132
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 6: constant referencing mistique. They'd be like, no, no, no, bring in

1133
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 6: the parents and make sense of this.

1134
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: I really thought you.

1135
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: Now you never did.

1136
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: I was watching an interview you did, and you said

1137
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: you never got invited to none of the Hollywood parties.

1138
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 4: Nah. Nah, I mean I didn't.

1139
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 6: I would do a lot of nice parties, but not

1140
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 6: none of the like the stuff that started gaining a

1141
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 6: lot of steam on on on social media, like you know,

1142
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 6: the rob Nation Brunch or or obviously you know you're

1143
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 6: talking about my man, you know you're the Diddy parties

1144
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 6: or whatever. Like, Noah, nothing organically not.

1145
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: Did you used to get invited?

1146
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 4: You got a you got you gotta go.

1147
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 6: You gotta calm down, You just them around.

1148
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: We just we're gonna slow it down for a second,

1149
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1150
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 6: Sometimes you can just be driving too fast and you're

1151
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 6: not paying attention.

1152
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 4: To the to to you know, speed speed exactly. We're

1153
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 4: in a thirty five zone right now.

1154
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 2: What happened to Judy?

1155
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 5: Man?

1156
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: How Judy just walked up talking about it? I know

1157
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: you don't give nothing to the listeners right now.

1158
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, listen. How do you think I covered

1159
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 4: in the book? Was I fair?

1160
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: You know?

1161
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: Yeah? Was I fair?

1162
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1163
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, yeah, because because you I mean, but.

1164
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: What you laughing about?

1165
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 5: I guess because she didn't really have a roll. So

1166
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: it's like you get you know what I mean, I

1167
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 5: get what you're trying to say.

1168
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 7: I didn't get to that part in the book, but

1169
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 7: I'm inferring and reading between the lines. Or was it

1170
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 7: that they didn't think she was good to stay on

1171
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 7: the show?

1172
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: She didn't have a role.

1173
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 5: Really that part of the family didn't matter Jesus.

1174
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 4: So in the book, how do you get up?

1175
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 8: I'm only a.

1176
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 7: Couple of chapters in, but not to give it all away,

1177
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 7: but just some of it. How do you cover when

1178
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 7: you ask were you fair? Did someone tell you weren't fair?

1179
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 4: And wasn't thank you?

1180
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: I just like I've said a fan kind of through all,

1181
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: he wasn't wrong.

1182
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 4: Okay, all right?

1183
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 6: You know, there were a multitude of factors that went

1184
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 6: into her departure from the show that I blame all

1185
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 6: on her mother, but there were. But as a performer,

1186
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 6: they weren't giving her storylines, and she wasn't the best

1187
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 6: at delivering a joke, and so you know, sometimes they

1188
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 6: would give her material and it would just fall flat.

1189
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 6: And if you fall flat and run through.

1190
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: They're gonna rewrite you.

1191
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 6: And you know we're kids back then, so you know, kids,

1192
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 6: that's the thing. You can't roast each other nowadays, at

1193
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 6: least not in public. But trust me, kids are still

1194
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 6: roasted each other. That's never going to go away. So

1195
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 6: you know, we'd be sitting in the background and they're like.

1196
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 4: And she blows the layup.

1197
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 6: You know it was, you know, and it's just like,

1198
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 6: you know, you can only mess up so much and

1199
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 6: be arrogant about it in the first code, and the

1200
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 6: Mercedes too before somebody says, enough of this, and don't

1201
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 6: forget my producers. You know, this is a story that

1202
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 6: precedes my show. They famously fired a woman named Valerie Harper.

1203
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 6: We had a show called Valerie, and the show became

1204
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 6: the Hogan Family and Tom Miller may he Rest in peace,

1205
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 6: walked onto the set and said you are done, and

1206
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 6: in one file swoop change the name of the show

1207
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 6: from Valerie to the Hogan Family and put the focus

1208
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 6: on Jason Bateman.

1209
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 4: And people forget those kinds of history.

1210
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 7: So why they didn't just I'm vim Judy then, so

1211
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 7: didn't just bring somebody else?

1212
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 6: Because they didn't they didn't feel like they needed the character,

1213
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 6: Like they we didn't have social media, so they were like,

1214
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 6: she's already only in one seat, you know that we've

1215
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 6: written her down as much as we possibly can.

1216
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: There reaches a point where the corporation does the corporation thing.

1217
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: It was like, well, how much are we banned? Right, Okay,

1218
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: we'll just save the money and you don't have to

1219
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: answer to social media either.

1220
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 6: And the thing that I do like where I like

1221
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 6: to address it with sensitivity is you know, and I

1222
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 6: talk about that, I say, look, the first miracle we

1223
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 6: have in our lives is who you born to.

1224
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 4: You know, some people were born on third base, you know.

1225
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 6: And in this situation, I really felt like, you know,

1226
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 6: Jamie was born to a mother who put herself before

1227
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 6: her daughter, and she had ideas of grandeur that weren't

1228
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 6: necessarily very realistic. And it sucks for Jamie that she

1229
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 6: has to wear that scarlet letter for the rest of

1230
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 6: her life.

1231
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: And I hope that Jamie finds peace outside of show business.

1232
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 6: To be quite honest, you know, this show business can

1233
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 6: time to make you think that this is the only

1234
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 6: way to make money, this is the only way to live,

1235
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 6: Like if it didn't I talk about that with Jonathan

1236
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 6: Brandis because he passed away and he took his life,

1237
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 6: and I just I was very close to him at

1238
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 6: that particular time, and I saw signs of someone that

1239
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 6: was really putting too much emphasis on what this business

1240
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 6: meant to his existence on Earth.

1241
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: I got one last question. I know you got to go.

1242
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: Are you heavy?

1243
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 4: And I have to go, I'm being class now?

1244
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: Did you jump into cannabis early?

1245
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: Oh?

1246
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 4: Man, I'm listen.

1247
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 6: Cannabis is just something I'm really passionate about because it

1248
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 6: landed on me.

1249
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 4: That's my plymouth rock. It just landed on me. You know.

1250
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 6: The I've been trying to get at the cannabis game

1251
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 6: for probably about shoot eight or nine years now, to

1252
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 6: be quite honest, and it's just it's been very challenging

1253
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 6: to meet the right people that are placed where they

1254
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 6: need to be placed. They care about quality, they care

1255
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 6: about diversity, because they're they're gonna change these laws and

1256
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 6: play with these laws in such a way that the

1257
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 6: big guys are gonna come in and they're gonna scoop

1258
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 6: it all up.

1259
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 4: And just the way they just played us with bitcoin,

1260
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 4: it's gonna go down all the same way.

1261
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 6: So I'm lucky to do a mess some really cool cats.

1262
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 6: We're not nationwide, but but my Guida Woolf group, they

1263
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 6: gona we're gonna have some fun.

1264
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: You got no.

1265
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: They named the streets.

1266
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 6: Then back in two thousand and three, named a strain

1267
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 6: after my uh, after my old character. I don't even

1268
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 6: know if it was after my old character. Maybe somebody

1269
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 6: was just inspired.

1270
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: They were watching an episode of Family Matter, so they

1271
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 4: call the strain purple Arcle. I've been name checked everywhere.

1272
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 6: Rap songs, TV shows have been named that purplecle has

1273
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 6: been name checked everywhere, and people think that I made

1274
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 6: money off of it. So my brand name is it's purple.

1275
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 6: I always like to let people know. And that actually

1276
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 6: came from a joke where it was like when people

1277
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 6: see me, they think they're being discreet sometimes where they go, oh,

1278
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 6: it's Oracle, and I always just wanted to have something

1279
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 6: to say back, like, no, it's purple.

1280
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 4: So that's what.

1281
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, So that's what it's. So that's what it's purple.

1282
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 6: The brand even stands for. But we are the House

1283
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 6: of purple Arcle. We make the best damn purple arcle

1284
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 6: that anybody makes out there.

1285
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: Did you bring something I got what I tell you.

1286
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 4: What I tell you, I left it at the damn hotel.

1287
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 4: But I'm telling you I will find you.

1288
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 6: Do the.

1289
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 7: Jump in Mara Michelle Thomas. Yes, every time, I'm careful.

1290
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 7: Now that's my girl.

1291
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 8: I know.

1292
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 7: I was going to say, every time you talk about her,

1293
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 7: it's very emotional for you and like I feel that

1294
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 7: that's your girl, right? Or was I want to know

1295
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 7: off off camera when you guys developed your relationship that

1296
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 7: we didn't saw on camera because it was so believable.

1297
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 8: What was that off camera relationship?

1298
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: Like?

1299
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 7: And like building that for the characters on camera? Like,

1300
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 7: how did you guys cause you were so young?

1301
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: Dad?

1302
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 6: No, just you know, Michelle started off playing Malcolm Jamal

1303
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 6: Warner's girlfriend on The Cosby Show, and so.

1304
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 4: She was always older than me.

1305
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 6: So even though she was so small and bubbly and

1306
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 6: you know, big, but she was I looked at her

1307
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 6: like a little sister. I'm like a big sister. Yeah,

1308
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 6: And we just had this amazing chemistry. My mama loved

1309
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 6: her too, so that always that that made things easy.

1310
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 6: And she just made it her business to always want

1311
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 6: to always want to hook me up with somebody, and

1312
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 6: she introduced me to Martha's Vineyard and and and you know,

1313
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 6: spending summers there and we just had an amazing chemistry.

1314
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 4: She was just and she was just down.

1315
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 6: Like everybody knew Michelle. Everybody knew Michelle in the music business,

1316
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 6: everybody music. It just everywhere we went, people loved Michelle.

1317
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 6: And unfortunately she passed away to summit cancer. And that

1318
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 6: was just a very emotional time because we just knew

1319
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 6: what she was going through as an actress. And that's

1320
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 6: why I always like to remind people too. You know,

1321
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 6: they always try to apply this type casting narrative to me.

1322
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 6: I said, man, listen, this is a tough business. If

1323
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 6: you really want me to make you a list of

1324
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 6: people who are, you know, trying to get to their

1325
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 6: next opportunity, I can, and you'll see it doesn't have

1326
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 6: as much to do with type casting as you think.

1327
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 6: So during the time when she went out, I just

1328
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 6: I wish that there have been some better opportunities for her,

1329
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like Carl Weather's just passed away,

1330
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 6: and you know, Mandalorian was a nice thing for him

1331
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 6: man to have on.

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00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 4: The way out.

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Speaker 2: So we want people to buy the book Growing Up Oracle.

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Speaker 5: But you know it is it is interesting to see

1335
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 5: how much of the love y'all created off camera.

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00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, no it was. It was real love, man,

1337
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 6: like you know, I get it. Yes, it was bumpy

1338
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 6: in the beginning, especially with the adults and uh and the.

1339
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: Parents to some of the kids. But that's my puberty.

1340
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 4: You know. Darius is out here while in the times

1341
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 4: and you know, we he and I we slide each

1342
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,479
Speaker 4: other's dms. But that's my brother.

1343
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 6: I mean, we've all had, you know, brothers or whatever,

1344
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 6: frat brothers or college friends that you know, bugging out

1345
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 6: or whatnot. But you don't abandon that cat. You still

1346
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 6: taking this call, and y'all just laugh it off. And

1347
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 6: that's what my relationship is with with Kelly and Darius.

1348
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 6: It's very brotherly and sister lye and you know, I'll

1349
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 6: always defend our entire cast actually for the work that

1350
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Speaker 6: we did.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Well, Jalil White, ladies and gentlemen, growing a pleasure right now,

1353
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Speaker 3: make you pick.

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Speaker 1: It up and thank you for joining us. There's been

1355
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: a long time you supposed to come in.

1356
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: Here, like years ago, but I would run to you

1357
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Speaker 4: all the airports and stuff.

1358
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 6: You know, I always give credit to a brother though,

1359
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 6: Who'll see me at you know who's famous, and he'll

1360
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 6: see me at the airport and like, okay, how you

1361
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 6: gonna act?

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00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 4: He was cool. Well, you know I've had other people

1363
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 4: would be Howard Stern.

1364
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 6: You know, I remember what Howard Stern was sitting in

1365
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 6: coach behind me flying in New York.

1366
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 4: I was flying New York to do his show, and

1367
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 4: and then.

1368
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 6: I got up and I actually took him some dessert

1369
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 6: and uh on the flight and.

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Speaker 4: He's like, oh, I can't believe you came back here

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Speaker 4: and uh.

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Speaker 6: And then when I did the show, he was like, Okay,

1373
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 6: I knew you were a cool dude because you came

1374
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 6: back to say what's up to me and coach?

1375
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, what was Howard?

1376
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: And coach?

1377
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 6: Might just need to get exactly And that's so that'll

1378
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 6: happen the famous folks tours, like yo, somebody you get stuck.

1379
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: I figured how it makes so much money.

1380
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 6: You gotta get on this is before this is like

1381
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 6: before this is before private party.

1382
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just gotta get it.

1383
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: Before private park.

1384
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 6: So he had looke, but he didn't have the bag

1385
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 6: right now. He's like, you better get your hands back

1386
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 6: to work.

1387
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: He helicoptered, I think from building the building.

1388
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 3: Now, well, ladies and gentlemen, it's to little white cloud now,

1389
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Speaker 3: good morning.

1390
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club