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Brilliantly Boring since eighteen sixty 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: five is a service mark of the PNC Financial Service Group, Inc. 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: P and C Bank National Association Member FDIC. 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: Let's talk about SMCI debacle super Micro. It's a historic 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: collapse and a cautionary tale. So it peaked out one 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty two dollars. It's down to twenty six 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 4: dollars right now. 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 2: And it's split, and it's split, so it was obviously higher. 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: Talks of being delisted, and this is like speaks to 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 4: a lot of people fear of the overhype. 41 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: Of artificial intelligence. So what can we learn from SMCI. 42 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: It's a lesson that I've repeat it forever. Please write 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 5: this down. There is no feeling the blank killer. So 44 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 5: I know both you anybody who was a Brady killer, 45 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 5: Peyton Mann and killer Jordan killer, it never happened. 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: Well are you who are you saying that they were 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: going to kill? 48 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 5: If you say that, n video and a lot of times, 49 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 5: and we've seen this in the constant space in the 50 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 5: last four or five years. When you try and recreate 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 5: a other people's intellectual property. You may not know and 52 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 5: I probably shouldn't say this, but it makes the originator 53 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 5: of the intellectual property more valuable. So I know it's 54 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 5: been a lot of spin offs of even us. It's 55 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: made to show more valuable. 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: Right. 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 5: So when people are looking at a sector and saying, hey, 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 5: what can I do? I missed out in Vidia, let 59 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 5: me get the third best thing. The best thing is 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 5: to listen for the best price to get in on 61 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 5: the market leader. Once again, we are investing in companies 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: that are going to move the GDP of America. If 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: I ask a simple question, if I was running for 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 5: president and if my initiative was to bring greatness back 65 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 5: to America through tech, is in Vidia probably the number 66 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 5: one company that's going to do that over the next 67 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 5: three or four years. 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: Yes, And no, most of us will say yes. Right, 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: So to. 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 5: Actually bet against Nvidia and buy into SMCI is technically 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 5: a short against America. 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: Give it. Can I give a little push back? 73 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: Sure, we're friends. 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: Because it's an interesting case. 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: Yes, debacle, but we got to look at the reason 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: why it is falling. Yes, and it's because of the reporting, right, 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: Like they've had issues with they're reporting a ten K. 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: They can't find it, which is the form to report. 79 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: They can't they can't find it. They hired Ernest Young 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: as an independent orditor. Young they said, we're not even 81 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: doing this, we're leaving stop pulls again. 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: So are the numbers real? We don't know. I don't 83 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: know if they're a competitor to. 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: In video because they partnered within video and. 85 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: Do a lot of ops. 86 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: Partner Well, this is true, but we got to we 87 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 3: have to know what they actually do. 88 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Right. 89 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: So from a technical standpoint, and video makes the GPUs, 90 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: we've gone over that. Yes, super Semi helps accelerate the 91 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: speed of that GPU by creating the infrastructure for it. 92 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: So imagine like the casing for this chip. That's what 93 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: they do is they'd a supplier of it. So it 94 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 3: begs the question, right, the numbers, we don't know. In fact, 95 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: they said that they were going to report November fourth 96 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty five. They meant November fifth, tomorrow, So 97 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: they're gonna we're gonna actually see what the numbers. In fact, 98 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: if they don't report, they risk being delisted because of 99 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: the way the stock is falling. They've been delisted before. 100 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: This is not something new, which is not good news. Yeah, right, 101 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen they were delisted. They came back, obviously with 102 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: the surge of AI, the partnership with the video. The 103 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: question and this is why a little pushback is like, yes, 104 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: we were not sure about the numbers, but are we 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 3: sure about their clients? 106 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: And VideA is the number one client? Yeah, Microsoft is 107 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: a client, Yes, AMD is a client. 108 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: But for how much? Yes? 109 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: They all are? 110 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: They agree? 111 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: Right? And so if they're ordering at that rate? 112 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: Right? 113 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: And in video Blackwell still hasn't come out, right, Well, 114 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: it hasn't released, and it's already talked about it's being 115 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: sold out. If the clients are real, I'm be I 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: want to see what the numbers are, right, we want 117 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: to see what the numbers are. But the client base 118 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: is still really well, it leaves that gap open if 119 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: companies are starting to leave and seeking. Alphab has already 120 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: reported that in videos had left no comment, but there 121 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: are some talks that they're going to start looking for 122 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: other people to help with the infrastructure and open the 123 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: door for us. 124 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: The kind way of saying, I'm gonna kick you off 125 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: for those of you don't know, so. 126 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: Then who's the next person? 127 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 5: Yes, and that's the real cold Now to your point, 128 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 5: great pushback, But when the investor class was looking for gains, 129 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 5: and this is why I say, you still have to 130 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 5: do your research and not just blindly chase gains. So 131 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 5: one day we're gonna have a whole conversation about what 132 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 5: happened to y'all love for NFTs not. 133 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: We got to get through the election first. 134 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 5: But when people missed out on the gains of in Vidio, 135 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 5: it was a lot of talk at the top of 136 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 5: the year of why didn't you call SMCI. Now, let's 137 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 5: be clear, they're not the only company in America who's 138 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 5: cooking the books. 139 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: They just got caught. But if the clients. 140 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: Structed allegedly allegedly, thank you for protecting me, that's gotcha 141 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 5: got But if you're not reporting properly can those partners 142 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 5: still remain by your side through the reporting? And I 143 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 5: ask everyone, Okay, if SMCI is going up as fast 144 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 5: of a rate as in Video, who's the CTO, who's 145 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 5: the CFO, who's the CEO? No one could answer that. 146 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 5: What's the profit margin? Most people couldn't answer it. So 147 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 5: if I lie to you, yeah, at some at a 148 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: certain point, given the tightness of the economy that they'll 149 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 5: probably announced after the election, I don't think any of 150 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 5: these companies can afford to have a partner that will 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 5: make such an egregious act in terms of their reporting. 152 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: So this is and this is what I think will happen, 153 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: And this is why I think it's super interesting to 154 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: see obviously the elections tomorrow, but I want to see 155 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: what happened with super Fancro. I think the CFO will 156 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: be fired. I think that will happen. For this level 157 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: of agreegiance, I think that will happen. They've already named 158 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: the new board, they've already said the CEO is going. 159 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: To take over. 160 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: But if it is the primary client, if in videos 161 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: is primary client, and we're still seeing growth inside of 162 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: the Nvidia and we already are expecting it and you 163 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: can see the price sockers are getting raised. I know 164 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: they report on the fourteen price raised until I hear 165 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: that they have replaced them. I'm interested to see what 166 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: those actual because they at some point they'll have to report, 167 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: and they said tomorrow. I want to see what those 168 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: numbers look like from an order standpoint, from a deal 169 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: flow standpoint, when it comes to predominantly in Vidia and 170 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: if not, if not, the inverse, I think is now 171 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: my target and you can put this in your watch list. 172 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: My target now is Dell. I think Dell, which is 173 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 3: another infrastructure company. If we look at super Micro. 174 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 5: Has had a great relationship with the White House for 175 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 5: a number of years. Yep, I think that is the 176 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 5: new target. 177 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 3: If we hear that they are no longer partnering with 178 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: sumerset super Micro, I think in Vidia and del I 179 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: will watch that closely. 180 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. 181 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 5: If I told you guys for three years that I 182 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 5: made sixteen million dollars a month and it came out 183 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 5: to that I just made two Even though two million 184 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 5: is a lot, the fact that I lied about making 185 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 5: sixteen a month will probably get me uninvited from some dinners. 186 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: Right. It's the trust factor. 187 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 5: So if if you're in the hottest space on Earth, 188 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 5: why would you split the stock at your apex and 189 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 5: then you lost the tenth. 190 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: But is it indicative of the space. 191 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: No, it's indicative of them. 192 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 2: Okay, because but that's for both sides. 193 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: You're saying that either win or laws, that that is 194 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: the stand that should be going for. 195 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: Well, let's do let's do this. 196 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: Let's let's talk about some finance stuff. But I also 197 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: I want to I want to ask questions. 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