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Speaker 2: Out of Georgia and the religion of his father. Fran

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Speaker 2: Tarkton changed football. He said, no, I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: stay in the pocket. This is a highlight of Bloomberg surveyance.

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Speaker 2: This goes back to Reggie Jackson and talking about his

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Speaker 2: father and Willie Mays in studio. Now, Fran Tarkton Paul

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Speaker 2: holding well at seventy nine years old.

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Speaker 3: Solid, I mean solid. Thanks so much for joining us here.

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Speaker 1: I am happy to be thank you.

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Speaker 3: Born in Richmond, Virginia, I love that a big fan

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Speaker 3: of Richmond talk to us about the state of football today.

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Speaker 3: There's just it changes so much from when you were playing.

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Speaker 3: How do you view it?

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Speaker 1: It's amazing how it's changed. Yeah, there's thirty two teams

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Speaker 1: The quarterback position, which I happened to play. Everybody, well,

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Speaker 1: you got to have a good quarterback. Half the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: or more this year have missed games. They don't stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: They'll stay well and everything is you know, and you

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Speaker 1: look at Kansas City, they're struggling and they're in the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. The last couple of years and Philadelphia's struggling

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks run back and forth. It's not much difference between

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Speaker 1: the thirty second team and the first team. And injuries

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Speaker 1: have come up to be a part of it now

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Speaker 1: and it's just a free for all. Right now, Oh you.

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Speaker 3: Played I think twelve.

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Speaker 1: Games we played when I first came twelve games, then

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Speaker 3: Now it's seventeen, going to eight. Keep the players.

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Speaker 1: Healthy, well they don't. They don't, and so that makes

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Speaker 1: that brings everything back, and the quarterbacks are getting hurt

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Speaker 1: at a higher lean. Roger Staalp I played every game.

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Speaker 1: I played every game. Ya Title played every game. John

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Speaker 2: Friend, question I wanted to ask, And this is for

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Speaker 2: all the parents out there looking at football and saying,

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Speaker 2: do I really want my kid to do this? When

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Speaker 2: you played, players were tackled. Now they're hipped. Could you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could play today. I could play to day

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Speaker 2: You scrambled as a Georgia bul though.

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Speaker 1: As a Georgia boat in my college, in my high

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Speaker 1: Nobody ran, Nobody scrambled, scrambled. So I was this crazy

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Speaker 1: I would beat the Baltimore coach by rookie year. They

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Speaker 1: they said to him, hey, Gino, how about this targeting

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Speaker 1: They'll run him out. Six years later, I had Gino

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Speaker 3: If you were a quarterback today in the NFL, they'd

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Speaker 3: be paying you forty million dollars a year for ten years.

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Speaker 3: Generational wealth. I think about your talk to us about

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Speaker 3: your early days and what they paid you. Guys in all,

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Speaker 1: And nineteen sixty one, I was drafted by the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: I made twelve five hundred dollars. Eighteen years later, I've

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Speaker 2: You know, with us across America today, what a treat

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Speaker 2: for the holidays. Friend Tarkenton is with us, he is

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Speaker 2: with pit by Q. That's what he's been working on recently.

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Speaker 2: Pip Iq, a full service B to B technology strategy

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Speaker 2: for small and medium sized businesses. But forever a Georgia bulldog. Forever.

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Speaker 2: Which jersey do you wear? Vikings bite skins?

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Speaker 1: I'm a Viking, you're a Viking. I grew up in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 2: What did Dallas Tarkenton, Reverend Tarkent, what did he do

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Speaker 2: to you? Because you came out of football and said

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Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live as the first athlete. You're like a

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I was a Pentecostal Holdness. He was

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Speaker 3: There you go, hey, Fred. We talked about the changes

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Speaker 3: in the professional game, but boy, the changes in the

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Speaker 3: college game are even more pronounced. With the name, image, likeness,

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Speaker 3: the transfer portal, they've got days of you staying in

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Speaker 1: They've got a real challenging college. They haven't figured it

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Speaker 1: out yet. They're paying these players three million to five

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Speaker 2: There's Georgia Bulldogs making three million.

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Speaker 1: Years Oh sure, oh yeah, they're paying them three and

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I have stayed active all my life.

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Speaker 1: I had a paper out in Washington, DC when I

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Speaker 2: When I was When you retire, you just keep going.

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Speaker 1: I kept going and kept going, and I keep going.

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Speaker 1: It's all about AI and AI. And I've helped small

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Speaker 1: I've started twenty four companies in my life, really yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm keeping active of it because the mission of

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Speaker 1: able to help people do better. And we help the

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Speaker 3: How has business changed? I mean you've been going through

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Speaker 3: your twenty some on companies you mentioned, how is this changed?

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Speaker 1: The technology has changed at all? This is the greatest

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Speaker 1: time I've ever had in business. You can do more

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Speaker 1: today than ever before, and you just got to go

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Speaker 1: do it. But it's changed for the better. Business is

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to finish up with two questions.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the really important one. First,

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Speaker 2: let's do the secondary one. I said, okay, good, I

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Speaker 2: didn't know that. Thank you say so much. Can you

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Speaker 2: explain why the great city of New York one of

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Speaker 2: there's your new York Giants. What do you say to

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Speaker 1: It's pretty bad. And even in my Minnesota Vikings now

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Speaker 3: The New York Giants. A lot of people look at

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Speaker 1: Your quarterback today has to do more than a throw.

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Speaker 1: You cannot win today without a quarterback that can run.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me rephrase that, you cannot win today without

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Speaker 2: being a quarterback that fran target to nobody.

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Speaker 1: No, Patrick Mahomes is kind of coming to another level

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Speaker 1: that because he's mobile and the quarter But here's what happens.

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Speaker 1: of bounds, you fall down, and they protect you more

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Speaker 1: today than it did in my time. But I didn't

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Speaker 2: So what about the officiating today? I'm the non football

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Speaker 2: guy here. I see massive clutchy grabby on the receivers

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish they'd have done that in my time.

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Speaker 1: Today that three hundred and forty three point fifty. They're

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Speaker 3: So friend, success all throughout your life through athletics. Talk

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Speaker 3: to us about your dead Yeah, how you viewed your

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Speaker 1: Well, I worked all my life. I worked in high school,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I like to do that. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: just that it wasn't making any money playing football. I

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Speaker 2: I want to get to sin for Lisa Matteo. I

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Speaker 2: dads of Boston, the football moms and dads at Georgia,

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Speaker 2: in Texas. America's become a jockocracy. When you played, we

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Speaker 2: couldn't we could tell you weren't just another dumb jock.

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Speaker 2: Have we gone too far with the twenty four to

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Speaker 1: I don't know about it. It's popular. I watch it

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Speaker 1: like crazy, but it's gotten to be pretty pretty tough

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Speaker 1: right now. Football players especially get hit hard by big

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Speaker 1: guys that are bigger than I played against in my time.

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Speaker 1: It's a more dangerous game today than ever before. And

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Speaker 1: they've tried to fix the helmets and do this, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work. And what happened. You get so many

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Speaker 1: many of my teammates are gone because we didn't understand

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Speaker 1: that if you have a concussion, you got to make

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Speaker 1: they're trying, but it's a tough deal right now, and

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Speaker 1: the injuries are like nothing I've ever seen in my life,

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Speaker 1: worse than ever.

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Speaker 2: In support of Tarkenton Financial and pip Iq friend Tarkenton

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Speaker 2: with us, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you nice being here, Bloomberg.

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Speaker 2: This is good. And on your way out, would you

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Speaker 2: leave me a message on the how you stay seventy

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Speaker 2: nine forever? I just love how you're doing that. Friand

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Speaker 2: Tarcatin forever with the Minnesota Vikings