1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: The bizarre disappearance of a little girl, Melody, just nine 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: years old. Melody has not been seen in a year, 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: but only just reported missing. I'm Nancy Grace. This is 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us. 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: Little Melody Buzzer, just nine years old, lived a quiet 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: life in Santa Barbara with her mother until one day 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: she simply vanished. 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Joining us tonight, an all star panel to make. 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: Sense of what we know about missing Melody nine years old. 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: Control room. Yes, show me her photo. Look at this 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: gorgeous little girl. 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: Look at that smile, Look at that beautiful curly hair. 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: How could she be gone a year and just reported missing? 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Or was she? Before? I go to our paw. 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: I want to go to a special guest joining us tonight. 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 2: It's Elizabeth Messa. This is Melody's aunt, Ms Messa. 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us. 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you so much. 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 5: For having me. 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful that someone in Melody's family is speaking 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 2: out on her. Behalf. We there she is. I recognize 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: that outfit. That's a Dorothy outfit from Wizard of Oz. 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Must be a little Halloween. 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: Or a costume party of some sort Look at this 26 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: little girl. Guys, have you've seen her? Tip line? Eight 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: zero five six eight one four one five oh repeat 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: eight zero five six eight one four one five oh 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: straight back out to Elizabeth Messa joining us. 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: This is Melody's aunt, Ms. Messa. How can this be? 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: I don't understand how a child cannot be seen for 32 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: a year and only just being reported missing? 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: But what is that accurate? Isn't it true? Melody was homeschooled. 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 4: Yes, when we found out last Tuesday, the investigator reached 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 4: out and was asking questions and you know, about her whereabouts. 36 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 4: So to hear that she was missing was completely mind blowing. 37 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: And to find out she was homeschooled by the mom 38 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 4: and the last time anybody seen her was a year 39 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 4: and then it turned out to be two months ago 40 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: was the last time that the school had seen her. 41 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: So the timeline was very sketchy. And mom is not 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: giving any information at all. 43 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of mom, are you or is anyone within the 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: family in touch with the mom? 45 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 4: So she answered the door for my niece Krina, which 46 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: is Melody's sister on her dead side. She opened the 47 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: door and answered very little questions, but as far as 48 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: anybody else knows. She will not answer anybody. She will 49 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: not answer the door. She will not answer questions. 50 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: Now, what do you mean she answered the door, but 51 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: she wouldn't answer question. 52 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: I know it sounds weird, Nancy, but she stood there, 53 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 4: very stoic, with a very stone look on her face. 54 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: And my niece asked her, where's malady, if she's okay? 55 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: And she said why now? Why now? And my niece said, well, 56 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: we didn't We couldn't get a hold of you. We 57 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: had no address, we had no phone number. And she said, well, 58 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: there's a reason for that. And my niece just kept 59 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: asking her, Malady, okay, are you okay? And she said, 60 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 4: I hope you and your kids are well, and she 61 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: shut the door. 62 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: So you got nothing out of her. Guys, we're showing 63 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: you shots of Melody right now. She's been missing. We 64 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: don't know how long. We're not sure she actually is missing, 65 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: but I do know this again, guys with me family 66 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: member Elizabeth Messa joining us. 67 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 1: This is her aunt. 68 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: A staffer at her elementary school realized that Melody had 69 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: not been there. Well, she's homeschooled, but they have these 70 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: little programs that the homeschool children take part in right, 71 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: and so the school doesn't see her every day like 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: you would a school a child enrolled in regular school. 73 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: But when Melody had missed several of these get togethers 74 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: with homeschool children, you know, like field trips to the 75 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: planetarium or the zoo, the staffers at the elementary school 76 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: got concerned. 77 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: And that is when it all came bubbling up. 78 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: So to you, miss Mason again, thank you for being 79 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: with us because we've tried really hard to get in 80 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: touch with family members. Wendy, do you first realize Melody 81 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: was missing? 82 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 4: So we first realized or found out last Tuesday, that 83 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: was the fourteenth, when the CBS investigator called me asking 84 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: if I know her whereabout? And I had asked him 85 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: if my niece okay, and he told me, I can't 86 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: answer that because it's an open investigation, and he said, 87 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: we're just looking for her whereabouts. And I gave him 88 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: all the information that I knew and I let him 89 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: know that the last time physically we've seen her the 90 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: family was about four and a half years ago when 91 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: her mom brought her to my mother in law's house 92 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: for us to see her. And at that time, Nancy, 93 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: she was acting very strange. She had shaved her head down, 94 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: I mean, she had like a buzz cut and she 95 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: had a hoodie on. The mom Ashley did and she 96 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: was seem very strange. And my mother in law had 97 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: told her, if you have you don't want to leave 98 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 4: her here, she could stay here because she was playing 99 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: with my kids. And Ashley looked and she said, I 100 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 4: can't do this, and she grabbed her and they left 101 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 4: and that was the last time that. 102 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: We've seen her. And isn't it true, Miss Mays. 103 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: So you guys have a really big family, a big 104 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: loving family, and everybody wants to take care of Melody, 105 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: but the mom wouldn't let you. 106 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: Yes, that's correct. My my husband, his family is very large, 107 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: I mean, and so loving and opening. And Karina is 108 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: her sister. Like I said, on her dad's side, her 109 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: dad passed away nine years ago in a tragic motorcycle accident. 110 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: And she's always want to talking about Rubel. 111 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: Yes, my brother in law, Raby, Melody's dad, Rubyel died 112 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: in a motorcycle crash and that was twenty sixteen. 113 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: So it's just her and the mom. Now, was Melody 114 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: always homeschooled? 115 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: Well, we just on that out Nancy. We had no 116 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 4: contact with her the last Like I said, the last time, 117 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: we were informed that she was removed from the mother's care, 118 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: and we all tried to you know, like get her. 119 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: You know, she could be with me, she could be 120 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: with you know, whoever they would allow her to be. 121 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: And then she was finally able to be placed with 122 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: my brother in law and sister in law, and they 123 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: had her for quite some time. I don't know exactly 124 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: how long, and then the state came back and they 125 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 4: removed her and they told us that she was going 126 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: to be adopted by the family that had had her 127 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: before or something like. 128 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 5: It was just so off. 129 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: They wouldn't give information either. And then we didn't hear 130 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: from her. 131 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: We was hold on just a moment. 132 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: Joining me right now is Sidney Sumner, Crime Stories investigative reporter. Now, 133 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: let me understand, Sydney, she was going to certain classes 134 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: at the elementary school, but I also have that would 135 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: be Buena Vista. But I also have information that she 136 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: had been home schooled but would go to optional in 137 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: person classes and activities. Can you clear it up very quickly, Sydney. 138 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: Right, So this is all from the same school district. 139 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 5: The long talk unified school district. So Melody was enrolled 140 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 5: at Buenavista Elementary for a year first grade and then 141 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 5: a year after that. She was then enrolled in this 142 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 5: independent study, a homeschool program through the Mission Valley Independent 143 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 5: Study Program. So this is backed by the school district, 144 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 5: and this is what she's been in for the last 145 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 5: two years. So she was enrolled two years ago for 146 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 5: the twenty four to twenty five school year, and that 147 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 5: newest fighting that we've just heard about, she re enrolled 148 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 5: in that program in August in The administrator who enrolled 149 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 5: her in that program again saw Melody in August when 150 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: they enrolled for this homeschool program. 151 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: So if the administrator saw Melody at the beginning of August, 152 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: we've now narrowed the gap to August, September, October, three months, 153 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: three months. But according to others, she has not been 154 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: seeing by anyone. 155 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Else for a year, but she. 156 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: Did show up according to the school administrator. The straight 157 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:42,479 Speaker 2: back out to Melody's aunt, Elizabeth Mesa, what was Melody's 158 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: demeanor when you last saw her? 159 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: All that how many seen her? She was so happy, 160 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: she was playful, she was just so excited to be 161 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 4: around family, and she was just smiling and just so excited. 162 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: It was great to have her around, and her beautiful 163 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: smile just lit up the room, and she was just 164 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: a happy, loving child. 165 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: Now we've been told that Melody was kind of passed 166 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: off to live with a friend, but no, one can't 167 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: confirm whether that's true or not. 168 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: Do you know anything about that, miss Maysa. Yeah, that's 169 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: what we. 170 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 4: Were told, that she was with a friend, but we 171 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: can't get any information on what friends. You know, We 172 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: just the mom didn't have much friends when I knew her, 173 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: when she was living with my mother in law. She 174 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: never mentioned any friends. It was she had a daughter 175 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: that was taken away and given to the father, and 176 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: I mean. 177 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 6: She just had us and that was it. 178 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: She has a mom. 179 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: Are you telling me Melody's mother has had another child 180 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: taken away? 181 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: Yes, h a daughter, another daughter was taken away and 182 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 4: given to the father to be raised. 183 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So was she taken the other child taken away 184 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: by the state or was she just given away to 185 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: the family notes. 186 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 6: My knowledge from what. 187 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 4: Ashley had told me when I was talking to her, 188 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 4: is that they the state took her, took her and 189 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 4: gave her to the father she was removed from her custody. 190 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: Okay, was that a different dad? Was that Rubyl or 191 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: a different dad? 192 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: No, that's a different Yeah, yeah, that's a different dad. 193 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: Gotcha because I know Rubyl passed away in twenty sixteen. 194 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: One other question, is it true that Melody's mom crashed 195 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: her car with Melody. 196 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: In the car? 197 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, she sure did. 198 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: And so here's this little girl alone with a mom who, 199 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: according to some sources, intentionally crashed her car with the 200 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: baby in it. Do you think that car crash was intentional? 201 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, she was very erratic and just emotional, 202 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: and yeah, she crushed it on purpose. 203 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: Where is Melody tonight? What is your message if she 204 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: can hear you, Elizabeth. 205 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: Malady, just want to let her know that we love her. 206 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: She has a lot of family and uncles, cousins, grandma's sister, 207 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: that we love her and we just want her home 208 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 4: and she is loved and it is okay, and we 209 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 4: just want her home safe. 210 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: Melody had no longer attended elementary school, but was homeschooled 211 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: by her mother in Lompoc, California, but concerns escalated when 212 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: her former school alerted authorities flagging a prolonged and unexplained. 213 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: Absence tonight, Where is this little girl? 214 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: According to some report, she has not been seen since 215 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: she was a little over seven years old. Where is Melody? 216 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: Please help us find this girl. We just spoke to 217 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: her aunt and the news is distressing. This child has 218 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: been homeschooled through Mission Valley Independent School program, but the 219 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: problem with that in this case is that she began 220 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: missing the optional visits, the in person classes and activities. 221 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: Where is she? Why did the school have to report 222 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: her missing? But tonight, where is Melody? 223 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: Listen? 224 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: Buena Vista Elementary School alerts authorities. Melody Buzzard has not 225 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: been seen for some time, causing concern among staff. Melody 226 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: enrolled in a homeschool program that also hosts optional in 227 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: person classes and activities. The last time anyone saw Melody 228 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: at one of those events was more than a year ago. 229 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: Joining us tonight, Special guest Raquel Zick, PIO Public Information Officer, 230 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: Santa Barbara County Sheriffs, Raquel, thank you for being with us. 231 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: Raquel. What's the latest? 232 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 7: So what investigators are sharing today is that they've located 233 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 7: information that shows that Ashley was with Melody as recently 234 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 7: as October seventh, and that they may have driven from 235 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 7: the Lompoc area as far as the state of Nebraska. 236 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 7: We understand that she had rented a vehicle, a white 237 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 7: Chevy Malibu, and we are providing that license played information 238 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 7: to the public in case anybody saw Melody or Ashley 239 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 7: together in that vehicle. We do also want to point 240 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 7: out that it is a rental car that is no 241 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 7: longer in Ashley's possession. 242 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 8: We know that the trip was from Lompoc to around 243 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 8: an America area. We're not sure you know that Melody 244 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 8: where Melody may or may not have been along portions 245 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 8: of that trip, but we do know that that's where 246 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 8: the trip started. 247 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 9: To and then return back to Lompok. 248 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 7: We are seeing a lot of people that are showing 249 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 7: up at the residence, especially people who are kind of concerned, 250 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 7: you know, wanting to conduct their own searches and their 251 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 7: own investigations, and we really want to encourage the public 252 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 7: to just kind of share information with law enforcement as 253 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 7: opposed to conducting your own investigation and just kind of 254 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 7: warned that you know that some of the stuff could 255 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 7: possibly impede our investigation or interfere and we know that 256 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 7: the public is very adamant and passionate about helping to 257 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 7: locate Melody, and we very much appreciate that, but we're 258 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 7: again encouraging people not to have that result in a 259 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 7: community led investigation. 260 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: Raquel, what is Santa Barbara Sheriff's doing to find Melody? 261 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 7: Detectives did already conduct a thorough search of the family's residents, 262 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 7: and that was before we issued the initial press release, 263 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 7: so we've already been through the through the residents. 264 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: As a result of. 265 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 7: That search, we are we are continuing in a search 266 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 7: for a missing person. This is not a homicide case. 267 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 7: The hope and the goal is that we find Melody 268 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 7: alive and that we can ensure safety. 269 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: Joining me now an all star panel to make sense 270 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: of what we have just learned to Doctor Bethany Marshall, 271 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: psychoanalyst out of LA, author of deal Breaker. You can 272 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: see her on Peacock and find her at doctor Bethanymarshall 273 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: dot com. 274 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, here's my concern. 275 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: If the mom allegedly crashed her car intentionally with the 276 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: child in it, that's a concern. Why is a child 277 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: still there? How many times is it going to happen? 278 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: Where the child. 279 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: Stays in a home where there is a danger, and 280 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: then the child goes missing and we can't find her. 281 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you make of it, doctor Bethany. 282 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 6: You know, not only that, but apparently the child was 283 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 6: placed in another family, loving family home, relative homes, but 284 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 6: then was taken back out again. And what is that 285 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 6: all about the fact that a family member knocked on 286 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 6: the door and then the mother said why are you 287 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 6: here just now or something? Sad effect tells me just 288 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 6: how sort of self referential and self centered the mother 289 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 6: is lost in her own world. It makes me wonder 290 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 6: about impulsivity aggression. To me, Nancy, what is most important 291 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 6: in all of this is the mother's lack of empathy 292 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 6: towards the missing child. 293 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: Well, following up on what you're saying, doctor Bethany Marshall, 294 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: the aunt and the niece have tried to. 295 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: Speak to her. 296 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: The Santa Barbara sheriffs have tried to speak with her, 297 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: and she won't talk about the child. I mean, come on, 298 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: doctor Bethany, you have to tell me to stop talking 299 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: about the twins. 300 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: And that's the way it is with most moms that 301 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: I know. 302 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: But when you can't get the mom to say anything 303 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: about the child. 304 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: That's a concern, you know. 305 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 6: Think about what moms do. 306 00:17:58,800 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: For their kids. 307 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 6: Not only did they talk about them, they show pictures 308 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 6: of them, They dress them up, they take them to playdates. 309 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 6: But they foster relationships between their child and other family members. 310 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 6: I always think of that as a primary role of 311 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 6: a mother or as a parent. Dad's too. And so 312 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 6: when the little girl is at grandma's house playing with 313 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 6: her cousins and then the mother snatches are and takes 314 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 6: her away, didn't a mother who either wanted the child 315 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 6: all to herself, didn't want to share, or didn't want 316 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 6: this little girl to give out information to other kids. 317 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: Many people, many agencies trying to find out where is Melody. 318 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 10: We haven't seen her in over four years due too 319 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 10: the mother not allowing their family to see her. 320 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: Santa Barbara Sheriff's attempt a welfare check, but find no 321 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: one at Ashley Buzzard's home on Mars Avenue Vandenberg Village. 322 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 3: Officers returned the next day, finally making contact with Melody's mom. 323 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: Melody is not at home and according to Sheriff's, Buzzard 324 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 3: can not provide a clear explanation of Melody's whereabouts joining. 325 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: Me investigative reporter out of la with Crimeonline dot Com 326 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: Alexis Terzchuk, Alexis, this is giving me a horrible flashback 327 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: that Samy just heard from our friends a KSB. 328 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: Why listen, Alexis. 329 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 11: On November twenty sixth, twenty nineteen, police go to Lori 330 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 11: Vallo's Rexford townhome to conduct a welfare check on her son, Jjvallo. 331 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 11: JJ's grandparents, Kay and Larry Woodcock, are concerned as they 332 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 11: have not heard from. 333 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 1: JJ in months. 334 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 11: Valo tells the officers JJ is safe in Arizona, staying 335 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 11: with a friend, Melanie Gibbs, who also has a son 336 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 11: with autism. The next day, police returned to serve a 337 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 11: warrant and discovered that Valo and Chad Davell moved out 338 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 11: and left town. Melanie Gibbs later contacts police to tell 339 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 11: them JJ was never with. 340 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: Her crime stories with Nancy Grace, Alexis Tereschuk. You and 341 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: I lived through the cult, mom, Luri Valo saga the 342 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: debacle where the children were missing, and I know you 343 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: recall us. Following Nate Eaton from Idaho News dot Com 344 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 2: chasing Loriivalo to the ends of the earth trying to 345 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: find the children. At that point we could see his 346 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: hand in the picture and he was yelling, where are 347 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: the children? Where she had followed her to Hawaii? Remember that? 348 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: And when they first started looking for a Jj and Tylee. 349 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: They went back the next they couldn't get a good answer. 350 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: They went back with the warrant the next day and 351 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: Colt mom Lauri Valo had cleared out and the children 352 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: were dead. 353 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: They had been dead. 354 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 12: And I think that's what everybody is fearing here, because 355 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 12: when the mom, and all the cases that you and 356 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 12: I have covered, when the parents has lost a child, 357 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 12: a child has been taken there missing, they immediately call 358 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 12: the police. They do everything they can to help find her. 359 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 12: They start Facebook pages, they ask anybody that's ever known 360 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 12: her to share anything that is not happening here. Melody's 361 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 12: mom is not sharing any information about her. 362 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: And as her. 363 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 12: Relative said, she's not even answering the doors. She won't 364 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 12: let people in. Your child was missing, you'd invite people in, 365 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 12: you'd say, look, here's her toy. Is there a dog 366 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 12: that could follow her scent somewhere around our house? None 367 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 12: of that is happening here. She is not doing anything 368 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 12: to share any information about her daughter. 369 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 5: Laurie Nate with these Didaho News, can you tell me 370 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 5: where your kids are? 371 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 9: Where are your kids? 372 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: Your comment? They've been missing for four months. You have 373 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: nothing to say. You're over here in Hawaii. Where are 374 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: your children? 375 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 13: JJ was not seen again until June ninth of twenty twenty, 376 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 13: when he was also found in a shallow grave on 377 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 13: the defending property. JJ was found wrapped in garbage bags 378 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 13: with duck tape around him. He had duct tape around 379 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 13: his head. He had duct tape around his arms, taping 380 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 13: them into a position like this. That's how the defendant's 381 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 13: little boy was found. 382 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: First. 383 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: That was from East Idaho News, and that was Prosecutor 384 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 2: Lindsay A. Blake in her opening statement in the case 385 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: against Colt. Mom Laurie Valo again joining us an all 386 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: star panel in addition to Alexis Tereschuk and Little Melody's aunt. 387 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: You know to Rhonda de Care joining us. You know 388 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: her well. She's the founder of Missing an Action Network. 389 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: It's an advocacy program for families of missing people, and 390 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: she has conducted many many searches for missing children. 391 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: Randa, thank you for being with us. 392 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: It's never good when mommy won't say where the baby is. 393 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 14: Right and we've seen it too many times, and other 394 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 14: people having to report your child missing. 395 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: Never it doesn't ever end up good. 396 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: In this case, I'm trying to figure out to Bill Garcia, 397 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: our Bill Garcia Investigative Services, where we need to go 398 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: with this bill. What now I'd start with a search 399 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: one in mommy's place. That's the first place i'd start. 400 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 15: Well, I happened to be on the ground over the 401 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 15: last couple of days trying to get acclimated to the 402 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 15: area and to learn any possible leads, and I did 403 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 15: canvas to neighborhood. I spoke to a neighbor who had 404 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 15: first hand experience that's actually seen the child. She claims 405 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 15: within the last thirty days. Law enforcement has that information. 406 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 15: They have their security camera footage from that time period, 407 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 15: as long as others. One thing I found is there's 408 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 15: a lot of security cameras in that area. This particular 409 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 15: witness to seeing the child has two different security systems 410 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 15: and they actually shine right onto the neighbors on Ashley's property. 411 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 15: So my suspicion right now, the most important information is 412 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 15: that camera fuidage, because that would that would indicate when 413 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 15: she was last seen, whether she was seen, taken in 414 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 15: the vehicle or not. I also learned some other items 415 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 15: that were kind of disturbing. For instance, they spent a 416 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 15: lot of time at home, no visitors. Apparently, according to 417 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 15: this witness, actually did not have a vehicle, and the 418 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 15: vehicle that was last seen was actually a rental vehicle. 419 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 15: So that's another important clue the follow because now law 420 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 15: enforcement can get a search a search warrant for that 421 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 15: vehicle so that they can track GPS as they can 422 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 15: with telephones and license plate reather cameras. There's not really 423 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 15: any indicators. 424 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: You'll got a question for you. 425 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: You say that she doesn't have a car in the 426 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: last car that she did have was a rental car. 427 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: How long ago was that? 428 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 9: That was within the week. 429 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 15: Apparently she returned it on either Thursday or Friday. There's 430 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 15: also a possibility it may have been taken and impounded 431 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 15: for evidence or to search for evidence, but we don't 432 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 15: know when she actually obtained it. But she has not 433 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 15: had a vehicle in quite some time, according to a neighbor. 434 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: Well right there, that's a very strong lead, Bill Garcia, 435 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 2: because unlike you know, a lot of cars. We never 436 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: know if there's a NAB system in them, a satellite system, 437 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: but if you've got a rental car, then we know 438 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 2: there's going to be a NAB system in there. I'm 439 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: just trying to figure out about this. As you said, 440 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: a potential siding within the last thirty days. 441 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: Tell me about that. 442 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 15: Basically, the witness is a very close neighbor. She didn't 443 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 15: want to go on camera, she didn't want to have 444 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 15: her name used, but she has been in contact with 445 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 15: law enforcement. She says some disturbing things. For instance, when 446 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 15: actually would come out of the house to go to 447 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 15: the garage, because there is no interior door from the 448 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 15: house into the garage, Ashley would come out the front door. 449 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 15: She would lock the security door behind her, go into 450 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 15: the garage, do whatever she was going to do, laundry 451 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 15: or what have you, and then walk back into the 452 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 15: house having to unlock the door, indicating that the child 453 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 15: was actually in the house the entire time. And this 454 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 15: happens numerous times. 455 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 9: Things that were interesting is. 456 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 15: No yelling, no loud noises, No visitors had their food 457 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 15: or the groceries delivered by Walmart directly. 458 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 9: To the home. 459 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 15: What concerns me the most right now is that law 460 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 15: enforcement needs to be on top of these devices to 461 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 15: be able to track where she has been. Since she 462 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 15: didn't have her own vehicle, there's going to be limited 463 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 15: times when she had a rental vehicle, so it will 464 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 15: be somewhat easier to track those periods, as well as 465 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 15: her telephone if she had it active or with her. Yesterday, 466 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 15: when I tried to contact Ashley, the neighbor who I 467 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 15: had been talking to extensively said, oh, she's there, And 468 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 15: as I walked up to the house, I noticed that 469 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 15: the garage door was open. The neighbors said that roage 470 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 15: stores have been opened for the last three days. There's 471 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 15: numerous boxes throughout the garage that appeared to be open 472 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 15: in disarray according to the neighbor that was searched by 473 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 15: law enforcement. But she has not been seen in the 474 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 15: last three days. And this is by a neighbor that 475 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 15: I believe is keeping a close eye on the situation. 476 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 15: So without getting some kind of direct indication from acially 477 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 15: of where Melody should be, it's going to be much 478 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 15: more difficult. But again, law enforcement needs to get on 479 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 15: top of those devices and get some kind of a. 480 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: Time Okay, Bill question you stated that there is a 481 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: potential signing in the last three days. 482 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: Is that what you said? 483 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 9: Thirty days in the last thirty days. 484 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: Thirty three zero? 485 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I heard thirty on one occasion three on another occasion. 486 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: When she was spotted thirty days ago. 487 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 1: Are we sure it was her? 488 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: What was she doing and where was she? 489 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 15: She would have been in the front yard according to 490 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 15: the neighbor, they're not. The neighbor's not sure if they 491 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 15: actually left in the rental vehicle, but they would have 492 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 15: had a vehicle. Not unsure if it was that same 493 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 15: rental vehicle or a different one. So she was seen 494 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 15: in the front yard. According to this neighbor, the child 495 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 15: was rarely seen outdoors when she was She was with 496 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 15: her mother. She didn't seem to play with any of 497 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 15: the neighborhood kids, didn't seem to have any kind of 498 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 15: reaction with anybody outside of her mother. 499 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 10: She has a beautiful smile. She's very very friendly, very loving, 500 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 10: very welcoming. She loved to be around her family. 501 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 11: Melody Buzzard is just six months old when her father 502 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 11: passes away in a car crash. Melody is described as 503 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 11: a very sweet and loving little girl who loves spending 504 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 11: time with her cousins and flashing her beautiful smile. Melody's 505 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 11: father's family hasn't seen the little girl in years. 506 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: According to a California educ Asian spokesperson for mother had 507 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: never filed the legally required homeschooling paperwork when officers arrived 508 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: at their home and they discovered Melody hadn't been seen 509 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: or heard from in a year. 510 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: Joining us tonight, high profile lawyer Lauren Johnson, Norris Defense 511 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: attorney specializing in juvenile and CPS cases. Lauren, thank you 512 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: for being with us, Lauren. When you are homeschooling a child, 513 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: doesn't the state have some duty to keep up with 514 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: what's happening. 515 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 516 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 16: Not only does the school have an obligation to make 517 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 16: sure that the right paperwork is filed and that the 518 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 16: child is participating in the curriculum, but if this was 519 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 16: a CPS supervised case, that court needs to know that 520 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 16: that child is receiving the educational needs and their rights 521 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 16: are being protected by their parents. So all of this 522 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 16: should have been supervised by government. It just should have 523 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 16: been monitored. 524 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about this program. 525 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: That the school offers, and that is I'm sure you're 526 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: familiar with that. Lauren Johnson Norris. Homeschooled children have optional 527 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: opportunities to go on trips with the school, participate in 528 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: certain classes at the school. 529 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: It seems that she was doing that a year ago, 530 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: but then kind of fell out. And I'm trying. 531 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: To understand how carefully the state monitors homeschooled children. For instance, 532 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: the Terpin family. Remember all the Terpin children, I think 533 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: there were nine of them, and outwardly they would be 534 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: photoed in matching T shirts at events, but at home 535 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: they were starved and beaten and locked in their room 536 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: and tortured. They were actually handcuffed, and they were home schooled. 537 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: So exactly what is the state supposed to be doing 538 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: to monitor these children who are just home along with mom. 539 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 16: Well, I think that it depends because first, if there 540 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 16: is an open case, then there are social workers, and 541 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 16: there are attorneys, and there's a judge who's supervising the 542 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 16: entire situation. Those social workers are supposed to check in 543 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 16: on a monthly basis when a child is placed with 544 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 16: their parent, and they are supposed to be fully investigating, 545 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 16: checking into the home and reporting back to a judge 546 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 16: what is occurring. Well, we don't know here is whether 547 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 16: there was an open case or not, but I assure 548 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 16: you that law enforcement is filing what it needs to 549 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 16: do to open any case that has existed for this 550 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 16: child with this parent, to get the background and find 551 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 16: out what's going on. If the case is closed and 552 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 16: a parent just has their legal right to parent and 553 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 16: make educational decisions, then no one else is going to 554 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 16: keep a close eye except the school. And it appears 555 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 16: that this school means fortunately somebody brought something forward because 556 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 16: they hadn't seen this child in a year, and I think. 557 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: They have a right. 558 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 16: You know, they have to do that because they also 559 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 16: rely on that for state funding. But maybe someone out 560 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 16: a concern and that's why they brought it forward. At 561 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 16: the same time, Yeah, why isn't she on these trips? 562 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 16: Why isn't she participating? Did they check in and make 563 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 16: sure they got the information? 564 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: Crime stores with Nancy Grace? 565 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 11: Mars Avenue residents say Ashley Buzzard largely keeps to herself. 566 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 11: Hearing the news of Melody's disappearance, Buzzard's next door neighbor, 567 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 11: Casey Monreal, checks her surveillance cameras, believing they may have 568 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 11: captured Melody recently, but there was no sign of the 569 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 11: little girl at the home in a long time since 570 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 11: the report. Police and CPS are frequently parked outside Buzzard's 571 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 11: home and canvassing the neighborhood for footage. 572 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: That's something that she raised the red flag when you've 573 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 2: got CPS parked outside your house. Chop Protective Services Alexis 574 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: Teresha joining us Crime online dot Com investigative. 575 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: Reporter al exists. So the neighbor thought she may. 576 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: Have seen Melody in the last thirty days, but the 577 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: surveillance video seems to indicate otherwise. What more do you 578 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: know about the case, Alexis Well, I do. 579 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 12: Know that the FBI has been brought in to work 580 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 12: on this case. When the FBI is brought in, it's 581 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 12: not because this little girl is hanging out in a friend's 582 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 12: house or CPS has her at a secret house and 583 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 12: they don't know about it. There is a big concern 584 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 12: that there is a fear for this child's life. The 585 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 12: FBI is looking for her, they're trying to find her. 586 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 12: She was Her mom brought her to the school in 587 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 12: person in August to sign up for her independent studies 588 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 12: as they call it. California at homeschooling and that's it. 589 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 12: She hasn't been seen since she hasn't been No one 590 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 12: has seen her. And as the man said, who's been 591 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 12: talking to neighbors. They used to maybe see her, but 592 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 12: it's been a very long time. And with a child, 593 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 12: you take them to the dentis, you take them to 594 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 12: the doctor, you take them to McDonald's, you do anything 595 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 12: in public with your child. And nobody has seen her. 596 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 12: She has not been anywhere. 597 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: I want to go to Sydney Sounder now, following on 598 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: what alexis Terachuk just told us, what can you tell 599 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 2: me about a large suitcase and a box? 600 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: Sidney smer Well. 601 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 5: Earlier, Aunt Elizabeth was telling us about Karina trying to 602 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 5: make contact with Melody's mom, Ashley. When Karina was trying 603 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 5: to make that contact, trying to check on Ashley see 604 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 5: if she was okay, would tell her anything more about Melody. 605 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 5: You see Ashley coming in and out of the garage 606 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 5: back into the house, and she's carrying a very large 607 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 5: pink suitcase and there's also a box taped up at 608 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 5: her front door. We heard from Bill Garcia that doc 609 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 5: garage is stacked with boxes. It kind of looks like 610 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 5: miss Buzzard maybe trying to leave Pound. 611 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 11: In November, a process server acting on behalf of Crown 612 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 11: Asset Management, noted he received no answer at Buzzard's home, 613 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 11: which appears vacant, but maintained his notes say there are 614 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 11: no decorations at the front door and the garage is empty. 615 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 11: Neighbors confirmed the home has been vacant for nearly three months. 616 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 11: Last month, when Crown tries again, the server tells the 617 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 11: court they could not locate Buzzard in Lompoc. 618 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: Well from one of understanding, Bill Garcia, the home may 619 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 2: look vacant, but she's in their locked away. 620 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: Bill, is that right? 621 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 15: That's what I'm being told by one particular neighbor who 622 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 15: has a very good advantage point on the house, and 623 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 15: she is concerned from Melody as well. And I didn't 624 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 15: get a good read from the visit the fact that 625 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 15: the garage store has been opened for at least three 626 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 15: days in that disarray. I took several photographs of the 627 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 15: homes exterior, of the contents of the garage from advantage 628 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 15: point and again try to contact Ashley. 629 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 9: I have the ability of had. 630 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 15: The ability to get some of these types of subjects 631 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 15: to actually confide in me. And I've been able to 632 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 15: solve some missing person's cases in that effect. 633 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: And I go back to that one photo real quickly. Please, 634 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: this is a shot that we obtained. It looks to 635 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: be the girl and her mom. But this photo is old, 636 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: isn't that right, Sydney? 637 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 5: Yes, the photo is two years old at least. 638 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 639 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: This is the home, there's the mom, there's the daughter 640 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 2: at the door. You see her. This is two years 641 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: old tonight? Where is Melody? 642 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 9: Ashley? 643 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 3: Buzzard is facing legal scrutiny over unpaid debts. The mom 644 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: is taken to court in December and May for sums 645 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 3: o decay capital one the December case claiming she owed 646 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 3: nearly three thousand dollars. Discover Bank also sought forty two 647 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 3: hundred dollars from Buzzard in a now dismiss twenty twenty 648 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 3: four case. Crown Assessment Management has twice failed to serve 649 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 3: Buzzer for unpaid debts. 650 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: To doctor Bethany Marshall, joining a psychoanalyst out of La 651 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany money problems way in when you've got a 652 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 2: mom already stressed and then these crushing money problems, What 653 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 2: effect does that have on raising your child? 654 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 6: Well? Interestingly, Nancy, money problems reduce a person's capacity for 655 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 6: critical thinking, for problem solving, for looking to the future, 656 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 6: for providing for others. So what it means to me 657 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 6: is that she may have become more low functioning. And 658 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 6: if she was less able to care for the child, 659 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 6: and that child would be capable of telling other people 660 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 6: about that, that would motivate her to cut the child 661 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 6: off from outside people. Now, what I think is so 662 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 6: interesting about what Bill said about the mother locking the 663 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 6: door behind her every time she leaves the house. She 664 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 6: is sequentially incrementally isolating that child from the world. And 665 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 6: you and I know, Nancy, that is a sign of abuse. 666 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 6: Now I'm not saying the mother is an abuser. I 667 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 6: don't know who she is, but I'm saying that when anybody, 668 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 6: whether it's a husband or wife, a child, a parent, 669 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 6: isolates a loved one from community, from others, they are 670 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 6: doing it for a reason. And what I wonder with 671 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 6: the shaved head the response when the relative came to 672 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 6: the door, if there was an increasing paranoia or this 673 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 6: would be the profile of somebody who has become increasingly 674 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 6: paranoid cutting themselves and the child off, and what that 675 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 6: paranoia meant in terms of her relationship with the child, 676 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 6: run how she treated the child. 677 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: Rhonda Takiera joining me, founder of Missing An Action network 678 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: for Missing Persons Families. 679 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: Rnda again, thanks for being with us tonight, Ronda. What 680 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: do we do now? 681 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 14: We have to find out what happened? We have to 682 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 14: talk to any friends, any neighbors, exactly what everybody's doing 683 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 14: getting the word out trying to look for her. We 684 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 14: have seen this happen so many times with so many children, 685 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 14: and it doesn't take us very long to figure out 686 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 14: that something bad happening. So right now. You would think 687 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 14: if there was a friend or a neighbor, or anybody 688 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 14: in a grocery store that had seen her, that they 689 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 14: would have already come forward. So it's getting. 690 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 2: Very concerning, Alex's to Reschut, what do we know that 691 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: LA law enforcement is doing? 692 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 12: They I believe had a search wart in the home. 693 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 12: They didn't find anything that would give them any clue. 694 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 12: But now the mom is not participating, Alex. 695 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: To Reshut, You're right, they did this, They reformed this 696 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: search on the home. There was no melody, There. 697 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 12: Was no melody. And there wasn't a glaring sign of 698 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 12: a crime. They didn't find blood, they didn't find anything. 699 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 12: They just didn't find melody, and there was nothing for 700 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 12: them to do. There was nothing that showed that there 701 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 12: had been something that happened to her traumatically in the home. 702 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 2: Okay, let me follow up with Lauren Johnson Norris, a 703 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 2: high profile lawyer out of Orange County. Lauren, when the 704 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 2: cops execute search, weren't your home, They don't see your child. 705 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: They ask you where the child is, and you don't 706 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 2: give an answer. What They're just supposed to walk away 707 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 2: and suck their thumb. I mean, where's the child? If 708 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 2: the mom won't tell and the dad died in a crash, 709 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 2: what are they supposed to do? 710 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 5: Well? 711 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 16: I know, it's really frustrating for all of us and 712 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 16: for law enforcement. The search warrant likely listed certain items 713 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 16: that were within the scope of the search warrant that 714 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 16: they could look for. It doesn't over ride the person's 715 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 16: Fit Amendment right to not speak to police. Switch it 716 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 16: appears she is exercising, but sure, it's frustrating and not 717 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 16: be able to get the information from the one person 718 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 16: who likely has that information. That's why law enforcement will 719 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 16: need to continue to do its job, seek the juvenile 720 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 16: court records to find more information about other placements where 721 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 16: the child could be, other contacts that the mother may have, 722 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 16: and seek all the evidence they can within the realm 723 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 16: of the law. 724 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything about the 725 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 2: location of. 726 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: This now we hope nine year old little girl Melody. 727 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 2: Please dial eight zero five six four one five oh. 728 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 2: Repeat eight zero one six' eight one four one five. 729 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 2: Oh we remember An american. Hero Lieutenant Nathan, Cass Riverside 730 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: County sheriff's shot in the line of duty after twenty 731 00:42:54,040 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 2: five years IN la law, enforcement leaving behind grieving wife three. 732 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 2: Children I'm American, Hero Lieutenant Nathan. Cass Nancy grace signing 733 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: off goodbye. 734 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 4: Friend