WEBVTT - Gottlieb - All Ball - w/guests Evan Daniels and Joel Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome man, I'm done Godly, this is all ball,

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<v Speaker 1>all basketball, all the time. Now we're gonna talk to

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<v Speaker 1>them recovering with the July evaluation period, be honest, So

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<v Speaker 1>of course we're gonna reach out to Vegas where everything

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<v Speaker 1>goes down in terms of the last weekend in July EVL.

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<v Speaker 1>The date of this recording is Thursday July. On Wednesday July,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an out. There's a huge like the AU

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<v Speaker 1>Game of the Year, if you will. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>Compton Magic versus Team Takeover, Team Takeover. Of course, you

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<v Speaker 1>can follow them on Twitter at T T O Basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get some insight into their roster as well into

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<v Speaker 1>the Compton Magic. They're at Compton Underscore Magic Big Game

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<v Speaker 1>at Bishop Gorman. Compton Magic win by two points. Full house,

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<v Speaker 1>packed house for the Las Vegas Fab forty eight, which

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<v Speaker 1>of course my guy Dinos dragonis puts on every year.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's gonna be interesting to see what happens with

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<v Speaker 1>Juli recruiting. There's a lot of July recruiting guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are gloom and doom thinking the n c A is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna just like Lemmings, follow the recommendation of Colin Condoleeza

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<v Speaker 1>Rice and the rest of her committee members. Um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not so sure. And as I've stated on previous podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been all sorts of different incarnations of what the

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<v Speaker 1>summer looks like, and almost without fail, the shoe companies survive.

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<v Speaker 1>The players who have um, who have been evaluated in

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<v Speaker 1>different venues for years, will still be evaluated, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of the same people, at least the good ones, the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that have earned the respect of the AU and

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball community, will still stay around the sport. How

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<v Speaker 1>it actually places how I don't know yet. But before

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<v Speaker 1>you say gloom and doom and make fun of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Condoleeza Rice has never stepped inside in AU Gymnasium,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone a big time AU game, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's not go gloom and doom until the actual

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<v Speaker 1>rule comes out and then to see how it actually plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the the genius to some of these a you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these people that put put on events is

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<v Speaker 1>they find a way to succeed even when the rules

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<v Speaker 1>are against them, like they're not. They'll they'll find a way.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be games, they will have the best players,

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<v Speaker 1>and the question becomes can they make it more centralized,

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<v Speaker 1>can there can be continued coaching? You know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting as we come off of the World Cup and

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<v Speaker 1>how many great basketball players we produce as a country

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<v Speaker 1>and how a few great soccer players we produce as

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<v Speaker 1>a company. Yes, the AU system can run a muck,

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<v Speaker 1>and look, do I think that all guys belong in college?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not. But the fact is that, however screwed up

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<v Speaker 1>our system of raising young stars in basketball is it

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<v Speaker 1>does seem to work now. It's helped by the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that and I've stated this on a radio show which

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<v Speaker 1>you can hear daily three to sixces from time called

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<v Speaker 1>three Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. The I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>appen on our serious XM channel three. UM. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is helped out by the best athletes still play

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<v Speaker 1>football and basque football and basketball in high schools and

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<v Speaker 1>in growing up. It's still cooler than playing soccer. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not blind to the fact that you have a

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<v Speaker 1>better caliber of athlete. You start with that as the premise.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know a lot of kids now have dads

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<v Speaker 1>or moms or dads and moms that both played. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a tremendous amount of sports. Basketball like you within

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<v Speaker 1>the household. You know you're you're not playing with the

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<v Speaker 1>same hand of cards that everybody else is playing with.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand that, But the amount of creativity, the amount of games,

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<v Speaker 1>the the level of competition, the diversity of competition is

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<v Speaker 1>so great that we can tinue to pump out far

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<v Speaker 1>and away the greatest percentage of the best basketball players

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<v Speaker 1>on earth. And this is not to diminish the Argentina's

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<v Speaker 1>who have made a not who have made a name

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves in the NBA. Dirk Davitsky as a German um,

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<v Speaker 1>so many of the Yugoslavians, the Serbians, you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it. There have been players from all of

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<v Speaker 1>the Brazilians have made the Spaniards, of course, But the

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<v Speaker 1>truth is that the reason are younger teams are dominating

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<v Speaker 1>is one the leadership of USA Basketball and two we

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<v Speaker 1>do have the best and most diverse group of athletes

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<v Speaker 1>out there. And three, frankly, this screwy system to which

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<v Speaker 1>players bounce some team to team shoot companies always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of seemed to have um something in the game. And

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<v Speaker 1>all these vivid personalities who may or may not be

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<v Speaker 1>funneling money for um somewhere reputable or somewhere of ill

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<v Speaker 1>repute to some of these players, to some of their families,

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of these kids before they get to college,

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<v Speaker 1>before they become professional. However screwy it is. It does

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<v Speaker 1>have a tendency to work. It does. All right, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the news of the day with the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things, One Kauai not playing for the USA Basketball

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<v Speaker 1>and two Kevin Durant getting into it with c J

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<v Speaker 1>McCullum on Twitter after sitting down with CJ McCullum and

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<v Speaker 1>appearing on his podcast. And it's interesting because you can

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<v Speaker 1>have if you listen to the podcast. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>speaks really well to Kevin Durant. There's a lack of

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing for him to be defensive about, but he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely wasn't. He wasn't defensive in it. Now what c

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<v Speaker 1>G I think did which I don't like that people

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<v Speaker 1>in the media have a tendency to do. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think he understands that now when you host a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes far different than when you're just on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>or when you appear as somebody else's guest on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He never mentioned that the words soft. He never mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the words soft in regards to Kevin Rand. Kevin Rand

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<v Speaker 1>appears in the podcast he didn't turn to him, at

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<v Speaker 1>least apart. I heard. He never said, hey, that decision

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<v Speaker 1>you made to join the Golden State Warriors was soft.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in subsequently on Twitter, he did use the

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<v Speaker 1>soft word, and he also contradicted himself saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he he didn't have a problem with it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was soft. It was a soft decision. And so look,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of and there's an analogy missed in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of using it when you're not a gang guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you use a gang analogy. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the hey, you got beat up by guys and

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<v Speaker 1>so instead of you know, showing some grittiness and toughness

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<v Speaker 1>and learning how to fight and fighting your way out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I got the reference. Kevin Durant, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>took the reference a different way. He took the the

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<v Speaker 1>parallel a different way. But I look at this and

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm just kind of blown away by a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things. One, I think Stage McCullum, who has great

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<v Speaker 1>intentions at heart, has now learned a really hard kind

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<v Speaker 1>of conundrum that many people in this business face, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>if you rip a guy when he's not on your show,

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<v Speaker 1>are you willing to be at least mildly combative when

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<v Speaker 1>he is. And I'm not going to point out other

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<v Speaker 1>radio hosts who came, but a lot of them do.

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<v Speaker 1>They completely lay down. They'll kill a guy, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that same guy will come on and be on their show,

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<v Speaker 1>and one while they're on, and then too. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the worst part is after they've been on, because now

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like they're a friend, they won't ever say

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<v Speaker 1>anything bad about them even when they deserve. Like, my

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is, you'll hear people appear on this. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>peer people peer on my radio show when I film

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<v Speaker 1>for other rape people with radio show, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm coming at them. But I just think it's

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<v Speaker 1>unfair to say, like, hey, this this guy's decision was soft.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have that guy on and you have Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant on and not state your opinion as it being

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<v Speaker 1>soft and why you think it's soft, and allowing him

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<v Speaker 1>during that time to dispute that, now what c J did.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's he's not the only one, and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>really hard, especially when he's just learning in this business.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just starting out The podcast is called the pull

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<v Speaker 1>Up Podcast, right, pull up, jump shot? Get it pull up.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, look, if you're going to go on to

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter and called Kevin Durant's decision to join the Golden

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<v Speaker 1>State Warrior soft, you got to say the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>to Kevin Durant when it is in person. The amazing

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<v Speaker 1>part about Katie joining the Golden State Warriors that no

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<v Speaker 1>one outside of me has mentioned on national radio is

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<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't just that k D needed the Warriors

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<v Speaker 1>to win a championship. The Warriors needed Kevin Durant. We

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<v Speaker 1>all point to seventy three wins, right, that's the big thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was on a seventy three win team. That seventy

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<v Speaker 1>three win team did not win a championship, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three win team probably should have lost to the

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City Thunder. That team was not as good as

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<v Speaker 1>their record would tell you. It just wasn't case in point.

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<v Speaker 1>They also were first team to ever lose the three

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<v Speaker 1>games one lead in the NBA Finals. It's just like

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<v Speaker 1>on that same podcast, the Portland Trailblazers were forty and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three. They were the number three seed, the number

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<v Speaker 1>three seed in the NBA playoffs, and Katie said, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>played like an eighth seed. That's because their record was

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<v Speaker 1>not indicative of just how good they were. Damian Lillard

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<v Speaker 1>played above his level of second half of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>He had an incredible year, and half the teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the West were tanking. You comb find that with so

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<v Speaker 1>many of the injuries, you know, Andre Robertson getting hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>The trade the Jazz went through kind of mid season.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we we have a tendency to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the trade the Clippers went through and they trade away

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<v Speaker 1>Blake Griffith, the Lakers. When did you play the Lakers?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you play the Lakers and the older players when

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<v Speaker 1>they had Isaiah Thomas or when they went young late

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<v Speaker 1>in the season. They were trying to win games, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so like, look, I your regular season record, and I

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<v Speaker 1>understand seventy three wins had never been done before. You

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<v Speaker 1>season record, though, has never been indicative of whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not you're a championship team. Case in Point Eastern Conference,

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<v Speaker 1>who had the best record fifty nine wins the Toronto Raptors.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't the favorites to get to the NBA Finals.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither were the Boston Celtics with fifty five wins or

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia seventy sixers with fifty two wins. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that we have to start with and talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Kevin Durant is the Warriors needed him. They were

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<v Speaker 1>not a perfect team. They did win seventy three games,

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<v Speaker 1>that's because they were a sixty sixty five win team

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<v Speaker 1>that that went for it. They went for the jugular.

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<v Speaker 1>They went for every last win when other teams have

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<v Speaker 1>decided to shut it down. You sub about Harrison Barnes

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<v Speaker 1>and most of their bench, you lost Andrew Bogan as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you end up adding Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant needed

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<v Speaker 1>the Warriors, needed the space to show just how good

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<v Speaker 1>a player he was. But the Warriors needed Kevin Durad equally.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise I'm not sure they win another championship. You can

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<v Speaker 1>dispute that all you want, but you I would think

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison Barnes would get better because you're so early in

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<v Speaker 1>his career. But if you resigned Harrison Barnes, are you

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely gonna win the last two championships? So two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely gonna win a championship. Like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that The answer is yes against Kyrie Irvan, Kevin Love,

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James, and that Calve team that they had lost

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<v Speaker 1>to the previous year. I would have liked to seen

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<v Speaker 1>it now. Was Kevin Durant's decisions soft? You know? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody likes to claim this is like how everyone likes

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<v Speaker 1>to claim that they grew up super poor. No one's

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<v Speaker 1>ever grown up and said like, no, I really grew

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<v Speaker 1>up comfortable. You you talk about how you grew up

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody else, and it seems that every person on

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<v Speaker 1>earth grew up barefoot, butt naked walking to school and

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<v Speaker 1>a foot of snow walking home from school. It was

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<v Speaker 1>uphill both ways, right, No one ever grew up with money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like the same thing with the NBA. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>got to be the toughest road. If you have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with what Kevin Durant did, that's fine, But you

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<v Speaker 1>also should have a problem with what Lebron James did

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<v Speaker 1>when he left and he went to Miami. That was

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<v Speaker 1>Duane Wade and they added Chris Bosh and oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, then later on they added Ray Allen

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<v Speaker 1>Like he joined a stacked team. Why wouldn't you join

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<v Speaker 1>a stack team? And it will be fascinating to see

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<v Speaker 1>how we react to Lebron this year with a team

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<v Speaker 1>that's the opposite of stacked, a team that has a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of young pieces and kind of the isle of

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<v Speaker 1>misfit toys on the bench. So I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was about being soft or being tough. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>fake toughness to sit there and bash your head in.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly think he was ready for something new. I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this all along. And he was also ready for space.

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<v Speaker 1>Space so that you couldn't double team him, so he

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<v Speaker 1>could show that he was the best one on one

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<v Speaker 1>scorer in the league, that he had an unstoppable weapon

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<v Speaker 1>and that's his pull up jump shot. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>what the last two NBA Finally he's proven to be

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<v Speaker 1>ready all right. Last night in Las Vegas was uh

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<v Speaker 1>the AU game. Really of the year. Is the champions

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<v Speaker 1>of the Adida's Gauntlet Series and the champions of the

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<v Speaker 1>E Y B Yell. It's a Nike series met up

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<v Speaker 1>and Evan Daniels he has his own podcast. It's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>You can download it, will tweet it out. Uh, Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports does it. Of course, Evan Dance called the Sidelines

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Danns joined us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>every year there is one of these titanic matchups. They

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<v Speaker 1>used to be back in my day. They used to

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<v Speaker 1>be for the championship of a tournament. That's not the

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<v Speaker 1>way it works. What was the level of intensity for

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<v Speaker 1>this game as opposed to ones that actually decided tournament championships? Honestly, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was one of the better played a

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<v Speaker 1>you were, high school games that I've seen and really

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. It was it was that Bishop Gore

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<v Speaker 1>meaning it was pretty much nearly sold out, UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>so there was a good crowd. But that they're the

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<v Speaker 1>intensity between the two was it was pretty high level.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about two UM programs that won a

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<v Speaker 1>time this year you know at the contin Magic won

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<v Speaker 1>both Fadda's July tournaments, UH team Takeover undefeated in the

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<v Speaker 1>E y b L and then won the Nike Pete

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<v Speaker 1>shamp So it's uh, it was it was a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>competitive affair. You know. I think I thought, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I thought best last year was Zion Williamson

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<v Speaker 1>against against Lonzo Ball, Right, that was the that was

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<v Speaker 1>the big matchup but but part of it was the

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<v Speaker 1>circus of the balls, whereas this was just about ball

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<v Speaker 1>meaning basketball, right, this was just about two really good

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<v Speaker 1>au teams made up of players are gonna be played

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball. Some guys are risers, some guys have always

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<v Speaker 1>been rated highly. More so than being about the circus,

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<v Speaker 1>this one was more about basketball. Is that is that fair? No,

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<v Speaker 1>no question? And if you looked in the stands, that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty evident by the college coaches that were there.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I talked to a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that that were really impressed with the way that game

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<v Speaker 1>went and the coaching in that game and the players.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this was there. There was dudes on each team.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have a team takeover and comb the magic.

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<v Speaker 1>All those guys are gonna play at the least the

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<v Speaker 1>major basketball And um that the coaching was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was a high level game. And I

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<v Speaker 1>walked away really impressed with the Comple Magic big man,

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<v Speaker 1>the Comble magicans and up winning by a couple in overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're post players. Really, we're the difference, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know Jered Lucas, he just committed to

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<v Speaker 1>play for my brother and and their staff at at

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon State. Johnny Jusang is a really really good shooter. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>So who who helped themselves the most? You mentioned on

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<v Speaker 1>CONGU course, who has been a been a riser? The Mobili?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, that's why SC hired their dad, like they've

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<v Speaker 1>been well regarded. Is there any who else on that

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<v Speaker 1>team benefited the most from this game and from their performance?

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<v Speaker 1>UM is that. That's tough because most of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>were already pretty highly touted. I walked away impressed with

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Jusang. I think over the last year he shirt

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<v Speaker 1>up his shot selection and he's become a more efficient player.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed the start of that at the U seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>trials in mid June, and I thought in this game, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he took good shots. He made a number of three pointers,

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<v Speaker 1>he hit a couple of mid range pull ups. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was one of the difference makers and and

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<v Speaker 1>just his scoring and and shooting ability. U the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to Taker had some guys that played really well,

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<v Speaker 1>justin Morrik committed pabil Nova was really good as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Roach. I think what's the most impressive player for Takeover.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a two point guard, actually the number one point

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<v Speaker 1>guard in that class. Um, so both sides had some

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<v Speaker 1>guys that certainly helped her stock. Yeah, you mentioned, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Justin Moore who's set to go to Villanova.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where he's committed to. Villanova. Is interesting and you

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<v Speaker 1>cover the Big East and part of the Biggiest show

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<v Speaker 1>on Fox Sports one. As they've done unbelievable job winning

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<v Speaker 1>two or three national championships and we've seen Josh Hart

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<v Speaker 1>winning the Summer League MVP. How well regarded they are.

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<v Speaker 1>All four of those guys go in the first round

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<v Speaker 1>of the NBA Draft, but there there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>turnover there. Um, I know they're recruiting a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>higher level. This is it's kind of interesting, like how

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<v Speaker 1>do they maintain their culture with so many new faces. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that's gonna be um, that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a big factor. But I think obviously what we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen from j right over the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's uh, he's certainly fit to handle that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're bringing in a really good class from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen and two dozen nineteen. They've got a top fifty two,

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<v Speaker 1>top seventy type guys Justin Moore and Eric Dickerson, Eric Dixon.

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<v Speaker 1>But that two thousand eighteen Hall is really good. Javantquin

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<v Speaker 1>Early a five star guys, so crafty and creative. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he comes right in and and you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to replace Jalen Brunson. But I think he

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<v Speaker 1>fits how Villanova wants to play. He's got such a

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<v Speaker 1>good feel for the game. He can set guys up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll come in and make an instant impact,

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<v Speaker 1>and guys like Brandon Slater and Cole Swider will help

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<v Speaker 1>them out on the perimeters. Later is a big time

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<v Speaker 1>score at six six. He's got long arms. Uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>can make shots. He's athletic. I mean, they're they're obviously

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<v Speaker 1>lost a lot and most of those guys you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to replace Doug as you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're bringing in a good recruiting class with solid players.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that really fit in Villanova. All right, Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>go through a couple of the two thousand nineteens. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a rising seniors. He's Cole Anthony the best player

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<v Speaker 1>in that class. No, I think James Wiseman is the best. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be the best player. I think James Wiseman

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<v Speaker 1>is the best prospect, and when you go out our

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<v Speaker 1>to our rankings, that's what we're u and and by

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<v Speaker 1>any Evan real quick Evan. By by prospect you mean

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<v Speaker 1>NBA prospect or college, but because because because it's very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting in prospect more so than more, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the best long term prospect. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he's pushing seven feats, got a seven six wings fan,

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<v Speaker 1>He's mobile, he impacts the game on both ends of

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<v Speaker 1>the court. He's really developing his offensive skill set. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been banged up, and he would have been on

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<v Speaker 1>that use seven teen team that won a gold medal,

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<v Speaker 1>but he got hurt and he's really played July kind

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of banged up as well. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me wrong. I think conthing is great. We have

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<v Speaker 1>number two, UM six three explosive athlete, as competitive as

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<v Speaker 1>you'll you'll find. I mean that this kid gets after

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<v Speaker 1>it on both ends of the court as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's more of a combo than he is an

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<v Speaker 1>actual point right now. His mentality is always the score.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I had a knock on him, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, go create for brothers and and and

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<v Speaker 1>he's him as well. He needs to share up his

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<v Speaker 1>shock selection a little um as well. But he's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>very very gifted, very talented, can really score, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a high level athlete. Am I crazy think? Jene McDaniels

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<v Speaker 1>another another top five guy. You know, he's he's from Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of guy that Mike Hopkins has to get. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing in Seattle is if you keep the

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle kids home in Seattle's up. Now you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win the league. Now you got a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to build something special. Hop did a really good job

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<v Speaker 1>in his first year, especially considering the turnover within the program.

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<v Speaker 1>But doesn't McDaniels become one of those guys that he

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<v Speaker 1>almost has to get? Yeah, Jade McDaniels is a priority

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<v Speaker 1>to recruit for sure. Um, I think it's a tough task,

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<v Speaker 1>not only because he's the uh, you know, elite recruit

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<v Speaker 1>that I think Blue Bloods are starting to sniff around with.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a relationship with San Diego State that goes way

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<v Speaker 1>back with his brother being there. But you're right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Hopkins and his staff have to prioritize him. They

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's the type of guy that could really

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<v Speaker 1>help them shift that program quickly. And he's and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about best players in the class and this kid

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<v Speaker 1>three or four years from now, we're gonna be looking

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<v Speaker 1>back and it's special because he's he's he's made a

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<v Speaker 1>major leap from where he was this time last year

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<v Speaker 1>to now, and his skill set is continuing to develop.

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<v Speaker 1>He's becoming more confident, he's shooting the ball better, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just making aboutments across the board. Uh. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>Terrise Maxie is taking his game to a higher level

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<v Speaker 1>this summer, whether it's a Team USA or playing a

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<v Speaker 1>U basketball And he feels like he's that's the type

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<v Speaker 1>of guy that Kentucky builds an entire recruiting class round though,

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<v Speaker 1>because because of his style. Apply Ah, he certainly fits that. Yes, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that What I like about Tyrese is he's versatile.

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<v Speaker 1>You can play him as a two guard, you can

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<v Speaker 1>play him in a combo role, you can put the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in his hands and he can go create for others.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, his biggest strength is his ability to score.

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<v Speaker 1>He does that, um really well. He can get to

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<v Speaker 1>the rim and take contact and finish. He can create

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<v Speaker 1>shocks for himself, pull up from mid range, he can

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<v Speaker 1>make off the catch threes. I think that's an area

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.080
<v Speaker 1>he could still improve. But he's just wired up to

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<v Speaker 1>get uh. Nico Mannion as a kid who he could

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<v Speaker 1>have been two thousand twenty instead of you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think last week and then he's gonna graduate this year

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<v Speaker 1>a talented point guard from you know, Pinnacle in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>There's lots of talk that he could be the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that Sean Miller kind as he tries to rebuild his

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<v Speaker 1>program rebuilds a guy like Nico Mannion. What's your sense?

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's it's still really early in these things now,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with the elite recruits. A lot of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are deciding late. What's your sens on Nicomanion? I know

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<v Speaker 1>why he moved up his data graduation and graduated eighteens

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<v Speaker 1>in a nineteen and it's not gonna hurt him in

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<v Speaker 1>any way. Um, but is this is this to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Arizona or something else that play? I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good chance he could go there. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's vim and Duke Villanova is also in the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jay Right. I was out in l A last

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday to see him. Um. But Arizona has done a

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<v Speaker 1>really good job for a long time recruiting him. They've

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<v Speaker 1>made him a priority. I don't know that Sean Miller

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<v Speaker 1>has missed many of his games. He was at the

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<v Speaker 1>same event l A on Sunday. Um Uh, they've They've

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<v Speaker 1>just been after him for so long. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>would be pretty deflating for Sean Miller and his staff

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<v Speaker 1>if they missed out on him, because I think they

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<v Speaker 1>have been the favorite. But anytime Duke comes uh sniffing

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<v Speaker 1>around and jump into the recruitment, it's dangerous. They've still

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<v Speaker 1>got to close it out. Okay, so let me ask you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's Cole Anthony and I know that that his

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>dad obviously is close with Coach K. There's talk of

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Cole Anthony and Duke. Um can they would they both

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<v Speaker 1>go there? And then I guess the second part to

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<v Speaker 1>that is, uh, Look, Jeff Capel did a great job

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<v Speaker 1>of spearheading a lot of their recruiting. I know Coach

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<v Speaker 1>K still there. They have a really young, active quality staff,

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's different when Capel's not their first year sense

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:09.439
<v Speaker 1>of could Manion and Anthony both go to Duke and

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>then has Duke's recruiting will to change at all without

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Capel. Well, here's the thing. Cole Anthony has made

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.439
<v Speaker 1>it clear that he's not making his college choice for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. So this is the worst point guard

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>class I think I've ever evaluated. It might be the

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<v Speaker 1>worst overall class I've ever evaluated put point guards especially.

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>It's bad. So you can't afford to wait around for

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Cole ptil May. You've got to go out and get

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a get one of these big time guys. Um and

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 1>if maybe you can, you know, talk him into playing

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 1>with with the other guy, you get great. But uh,

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.679
<v Speaker 1>I just think that you can't really wait around. Um So,

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I think Duke's going to or has started to prioritize

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>nik o'mannon. Would they love to have Cole Anthony? I

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>think they definitely would love to have Cole Anthony. With

0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>those two co exist in the same backward I don't

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>know the answer to that. Um So, Yeah, I think

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting scenario to see how it all plays out.

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 1>And obviously you mentioned Jeff Capel. Anytime you lose a

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>guy of that caliber, that was so good at building

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>relationships and um brought a lot of really good recruits

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>to the table. I think it's a it's a loss. Obviously,

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Chris Carroroll was was hired in his place, and you

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>know Nate James was a guy that went out and

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>got Zian Williamson last year. John Shire has has been

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the appointment on a guy like Jayson Tatum. So it's

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>not like these other guys haven't gotten players. Um. But

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like I said, anytime you lose somebody at caliber of

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Capel at hurt, I know you want to go back,

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>duck back into the gym mass you really quickly. Zion

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Williamson's like a YouTube sensation, right, a dunking machine, but

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>he's a little bit heavy. Um. I mean I think

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I think at his best he'll be he's got a

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>chance to be an undersized uh kind of athletic four.

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>But you really got to shoot and guard in order

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to do that. And the one thing about coach k

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>is you know they away the white flag and they

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>played zone last year. What's your sense of of what

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you think we'll see from Zion Williamson they play for

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Duke next season, Well, I think we're going to see

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the electric athlete. I think we're going to see a

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.199
<v Speaker 1>guy that actually has a pretty good feel feel for

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the game and can really pass um. I think when motivated,

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 1>he's a really good rebounder. I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that that caused me to take a step back

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>to them last year was he didn't always play hard

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and he was rarely ever in great shape. I think

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:35.959
<v Speaker 1>the thing that we're going to see from him at

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Duke is one They're gonna get him in shape. Uh

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>and too. I'm curious to see what kind of effort

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>he gives forth on the court. And he was known

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 1>for those dunks, um and the highlights and transition. Uh,

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>there's some other stuff there In terms of this passing,

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I think he does that at a pretty uh at

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good level. But he's gonna have to improve

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>his jump shot and uh last viewing in high school,

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.919
<v Speaker 1>it was a ways away. Having Anniels check out his

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>podcast called the Sidelines with Evan Daniels Fox Sports, Fox

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Sports dot Com. Of course a great way to pick

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 1>on just fall him on Twitter. He's got all the information.

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Get back in the gym, get back covering those games,

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 1>plus Team USA. Thanks for joining us. Hey, thanks for

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:18.360
<v Speaker 1>having me on, Doug. I appreciate it. Man. Alright, let's

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>let's continue that conversation about Prep hoops and kind of

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the Lebron takeover. I think it's gonna be fascinating. Guy

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>who more than thirty years has covered Southern California AU basketball.

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's the college scene, frankly as the NBA

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 1>scene just really knows as a great feel for the game.

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>You gotta prep hoops dot Com or fall them on

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Twitter at Joel fran Hoops. Joel Francisco joins us here

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>in the All Ball podcast. Uh look, you're the perfect

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>guy for this because we've seen we've seen the Ball family,

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>but we've seen and maybe that was kind of the

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 1>first of its kind. We've seen other big AU teams.

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>You go back to, you know, before me, even when

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>uh Rich Goldberg would have his team's mid Valley a

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>r C. They fly guys in and you know, Jason

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Kidd would suddenly be playing with Southern California players and

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the Tracy McGrady Derek Martin days and then is He

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:12.439
<v Speaker 1>Washington had his Slam and Jam teams. But Lebron James

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>coming to Southern California with two teenage boys. It feels

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>like that's gonna forever change the dynamic of AU basketball.

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Am I overselling it? No? I completely I completely agree.

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I believe that we've got a taste of it with

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the Ball family. You know, I had never in the

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty years of covering this from when I started doing

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>with Tracy Murray and the following that he had all

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the way through you know, these last thirty years, and

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anything like the Ball situation. You know,

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>going to gyms, it was a circus. And then what

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>happened last night, you know with Lebron coming in the gym,

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and I would figure, like, you know, have some hindsight

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that okay, here comes Lebron Junior. We

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>have social media. The gym was packed and they had

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it in the small auxiliary jam and I guess of

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>some fan came in started ripping Lebron and it just

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>turned into like a mini melee and then they canceled

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the game. And it's like, what are they going to

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>do in the future here, you know, like if he

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>decides to go to Sierra Canyon Brentwood High School. You know,

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm really intrigued to see, you know, from a safety standpoint,

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what is going to happen with something, and

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>for that matter, it's it's fascinating because there's a lot

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>of parts of Lebron which are really interesting. He's done things,

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>he's cleared his own path, most of which I like,

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>some of I don't. You can. It's in arguable though

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that in terms of being an involved parent, especially in

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>comparison to you know, Larry Bird never had a young

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>boy in au Michael Jordan had two kids, but he

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>was we don't remember him ever kind of being around.

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I called a couple of their high school games and

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>he was he was never around. Like he's actually an

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>involved parent. He actually uh you know, he knows the

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>other kids names. He interacts with the team occasionally, he

0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>helps coach like it is something and but thing is

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that not only do you have that, but then you

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>have the hey, how are you going to keep a

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>kid on your team? If Brawnie says, hey, Dad, I

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>want him on my team, they decided they want to

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and Lebron James picks the phone says, hey, do you

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>want to play with my son? I know, yeah, By

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the way, you're gonna get all the Lebron gear you want. Like,

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>no one's gonna say no to that, are they? Oh? No,

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I would think not. I mean him coming to l

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>A is going to completely you know, I mean we

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>could see another level of I mean we're gonna see

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>something different than the balls here. But yeah, I mean,

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you know the way kids transfer nowadays, it's it's ridiculous.

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, like c IF said something like sixteen thousand

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>kids transferred. That was even last year, multiple sports. But

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>now with Braun coming in and you know how he

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>manages his own NBA teams, Yeah, you could see him.

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>You could see you could start crazy these you know,

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>all Star AU teams and you know wherever school is,

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Sun ends up at, you know where he's gonna be

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>pulling kids from everywhere. Maybe. Yeah, you mentioned all the

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>transfers in the CIF, and I know this happens everywhere.

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>As a national podcast, I think people are sitting there

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>on their heads and saying, yeah, we have lots of

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>problems with kids. Uh, it's kind of on steroids here

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>in southern California. Do you think the player movement in

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the NBA is the cause of the player movement in

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a U? In high school? Basketball, or do you think

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it's the other way around where kids are always moving

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>around a U in high school and now they become

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>pros and now so they don't get they don't get

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>as tied to a place or two a team as

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>they used to which which which is the which is

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the chicken and which is the egg? Um, I would

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>say the ladder. I would think since these kids now

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>um are playing against each other and they all know

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>each other now, then's probably what he's mad. Or teams

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>where they're playing in these national based tournaments, they're becoming

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>friends and they keep these connections going. They're never in

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>college enough to create rivalries, so they just go from

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>this a U team sprinkling for the n b A

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and they and like Lavon forming his team in Miami

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and then and it's just escalated from there. And so

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I just I really believe it started with with club

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>basketball at a basketball wherever you want to call it,

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>with these guys that have become known that you know,

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>they've known each other for so long and they become

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>friends and they developed these friend steps and now you

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>have thout the media and it's created a perfect storm.

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>What's your sense of what's going to happen. I know

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that many people in your professional and you, I think

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you tweet out something which is great, which is like, hey,

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the new rules potentially could still have the tournaments, just

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the coaches wouldn't be allowed the tournaments, which would be

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>great for you as a professional evaluator that people respect

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>for more than thirty years. Like, just because coach K

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>can't sit there and have his assistance bird dog a kid,

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that you can't evaluate him. Um. What's your

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>any guests as to what what the rules end up

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>being for the future of the July recruiting period? Um?

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>What I can see somebody mention that, let's say the

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>biggest one that each of them would moves to August

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>or something. I said, Well, that would be impossible for

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>my take because so many schools now including in southern

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>California were starting school in August. So I could see

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these tournaments moving to June while the

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Insuay has their camps whatever in July and have for

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, the valuahere like me, the best of both

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>work and this is all that June and then it's

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a live And I felt the number one thing for

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>me that I've had it with um, you know, restricting

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>coaches from coming out. I feel, for me is the

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>most important month. I would rather watch the kids play

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>for me personally with his high school team, see how

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>he leads, see how he carries his team. You know,

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's I think I can get a

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>greater sense of who this kid is rather than seeing,

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, in these multiopol club games you see in July. Yeah,

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>you bring up a great point. You know, my brothers,

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, is recruited at all the different levels, mostly

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>in California, and then of course we're can stay for

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the last four years. And I don't I actually think

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>they're working in the opposite way of the of the

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>way they should. You should have assistance that are allowed

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>to go out as often as they want, right, just

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>go out. And and if your job is to evaluate

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and recruited kid, why are we putting limits on it.

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the fact is that I understand. My dad

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>used to tell the stories of of him, you know,

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>sleeping over at a kid's house that they were trying

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and sitting on, sitting on a kid that they have, Like, okay,

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit overboard, but it's like limiting texts.

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like when you couldn't text a kid, Like, look,

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>if a kid doesn't want doesn't want you to text him,

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>he'll just block you or he'll just delete it. If

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a kid does, if he gets creeped out by a

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>guy keep coming to his game, he'll just you'll end

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>up wearing the kid out and he'll it'll turn him off.

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I just let us let recruiting assistance do their job.

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>You want to restrict head coaches so they're on campus more,

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>if you want to make sure that there's always a

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>coach on campus, like, that's fine, but this idea that

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>somehow you're protecting assistant coaches. All right, maybe August is dark,

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.919
<v Speaker 1>nobody can see, anybody knows. But outside of that, isn't

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>it fair to say, like, hey, just let him recruit,

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.399
<v Speaker 1>don't pay your players, don't change their grades, and kind

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>of the rest uh just almost a free market sort

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 1>of recruiting system. Yeah, I agree with that too, and

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the fact that I believe that that we implement some

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>system like that will cut back on the multiple you know,

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the ridiculous numbers are seeing in kids that are going

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to schools. They're being overrecruited and they end up bouncing

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>back to various other schools, you know, through a lower

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>level because in hindsight, these coaches don't have a great feel,

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, for who they're recruiting. I mean, they get

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>such a limited time. There's some games going on until

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Joel am I crazy. But I've always thought, you know,

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>we talked about transfers and the reason that players transfer.

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>We always believe it's because the kid wants more, the

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 1>parent wants more, and and that's some of it. But

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>but a good portion of it is the coach doesn't

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>exactly know what he's getting and the player doesn't exactly

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>have a great feel of what he's getting into because

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>there because we're limiting the relationship and the length and

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.439
<v Speaker 1>the quality of the relationship between who's recruiting and who's

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>being recruited. Is that is that a fair? Like? I know,

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that's that's absolutely fair. And the thing is, when I

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>talked at two kids at camps, I say, hey, you,

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I think what they missed the point? And I think parents,

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 1>you get caught up in the highest level and it's

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>like you need to find the best bit for your kid.

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 1>That's the bottom line, And here's the kid that's getting

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>recruited let's say at lm U Pepperdine or whatever. And

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 1>then he goes off in one game and washing and

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>ss to the picture. Well I'm going to go to

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Washington now, you know, instead of saying no way, the

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Pepperdine system fits me better, it's you know, as that's

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the kind of situation that get fallen into a right. Uh,

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you've seen a lot of kids for a lot of years.

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.959
<v Speaker 1>Give me the most the kid you've seen this uh

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>this spring and summer, that's most impressive to you? Most

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>impressive player. Um, I probably have to go out west. Um,

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>here's a guy that it's Evan Mowbley, is older brother.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Isam always going to u SC that the US. He

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>hired the dad recently in the spring. Evan mobile for me. Um,

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a kid. He's basically a combination. I'm not saying

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>he's the next Durrant or Garnett type, but he's kind

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>of a combination of the two in terms of he's

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>got perimitive skills. He's got I saw Kevin Ronnett in

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>high school. He's as quick off the floor, he's got

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>in between games, he's got he's got the whole package.

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>This is going to be a matter of strength in

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 1>terms of him going forward. But I would be stocked.

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>He's not NBA player down the road two or three

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Cash to Stanley was that young player coming

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>up into high school basketball that everyone was talking about.

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>He's still very very well regarded, but but but not

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>nearly at the level that he was previously. You know,

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>he's top twenty to top thirty, maybe top forty nationally.

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.240
<v Speaker 1>What type of impact do you think cash you Stanley?

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Who is that Syrican in which one of the school

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>big private schools in southern California. He was originally a

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Harvard West like hey Way that we were talking about

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>earlier for people were out of the area. What what

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>happened to Kasha Stanley and what type of impact do

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you think will have when he ultimately plays in college? Well,

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, for me, Cashi's family is going to have

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>um I think when you see him in the club situation,

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>in a wide open game, he's an NBA athlete, There's

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>no question about that. But for me, you know, for

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 1>someone that we're doing a long time, and I'm sure

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you would get the same feel for him if you

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>watch them actually in the game. He has improved, but

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>there's not something he could totally depend on in a

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>game when it slows down. His jump shot is still

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>needs to get more consistent. Is decision making? You know,

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>as every attention all of these can be a point

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 1>guard because everybody needs to be a point guard now.

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry you played the position. It takes a

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>certain feel for the game. Could be that to play

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that player. And so I think now so if someone

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>just allowing him to be a two guard and work

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 1>on that skill set, then I think he could be

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>a very good college player. And I'm probably a pro.

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>But right now, for me, he's got some areas he

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>really needs to grow in. It's it's gonna be fascinating

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>to see if he does go because it was it

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit too much, uh too soon. There's

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a big guy in southern California. I would I would

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>love to have your opinion on kid named Carl Lewis

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>at Linwood High School. Six put up some big numbers

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>this year, but you know, like, look, we're in the

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>age of the big man that doesn't score at the

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>low block. We're in the age of you've got to

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>be a roller and a finisher at the rim and

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a rim protector or a stretch five. What's the prospects

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>like for a kid like Carl Lewis who's a rising jr. UM.

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>What you know, Carl Lewis, he has some stuff off

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the court that needs to be taken care of. Um,

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>He's he's got a long way to go in terms

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 1>of becoming a bassal player. Yes, he's built like Karl

0:39:55.840 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Malone and but in terms of you know, it's skill fundamental, Um,

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't spent a lot of time. You know, he's

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>done a lot of this stuff going on, put it

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 1>bluntly and put it violay. In fact that I don't

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>think he's really had a lot of time to work

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>on those aspects of the game. So for me, massively rated.

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>He's one of these guys that you know, played at

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>lim Win High School, didn't play against you know, the

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>greatest competition In terms episode, there was no one that

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>can handle him. But so there's certain areas in his

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>game that he really needs UH to take care of,

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>as well as some other aspects of his wife, but

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>come together before if he's able to play college. In

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, that's great, great feedback from Joel Francisco has

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>been doing this over thirty years. Is a great job

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 1>in southern California. Follow him on Twitter. You got to

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>prep hoops. You got to prep hoops dot com. Last

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>thing I want to ask you about Kawhi Leonard because

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>he look, he was Gateorade Player of the Year, but

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>he played MLK in out in Riverside. He was a

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>six five six six postman who has become you know,

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a top five by many people's accounts, third best player

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA. And because he's super super quiet, we

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to make of him. What's what's your

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 1>assessment as a guy who saw him at his his

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 1>infancy as a player, grow into a star at San

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Diego State, a superstar in the NBA, and now trying

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to we think, manipulate his way back to Los Angeles.

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>What's your assessment of kind of the situation, how he's

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>handled and what the ultimate end game is um You know,

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>watching Kauai in high school, you don't. And to be honest,

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 1>you I never thought he'd reached the level that he's

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 1>at right now. I thought he's I thought he was

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>a high major recruit, you know, top fifty national propects

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>because length, he's got the biggest hands. But you know something,

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 1>he's always been a no nonsense player, no emotion and

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>just go out there and I'm gonna be productive and

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>do my job at both ends of the floor. However,

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>this year, what's the story that I've heard, I become skeptical,

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you know about okay, where in fact is and I

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>don't want to know. Character, you know, character assassinates this guy.

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 1>But I heard he was able to play and he

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>chose not to play, And so that for me, that

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:11.720
<v Speaker 1>brings up red flags with directions who's handling his situations? Now,

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>this is not the same kid that I talked to

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>in high school and you know, got to know true

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the ac and all that stuff. So I'm kind of

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>curious to see, really intrigued to see how he does

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>in the Toronto this year and really watch his approach

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to the game. And because we all know what he

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>can do on the basketball or I mean arguably what

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the best maybe the best way player in the game today.

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 1>So I'm very intrigued to see what he goes this

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>year at Toronto. What about it? What about Dorozen? Like

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I do feel like de Rosen somehow and he was

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>bad in in the playoff series against UM against Lebron Javelers,

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.879
<v Speaker 1>he just he wasn't good. He was fantastic in their

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>in their first round series, fantastic. I saw him at

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>the Garden. This is two years ago, Drop thirty nine

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the Garden. I was like, damn, Demard Rosen. It is

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>a but he is the closest. He's got a Kobe

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>style of offensive game. Um, it's just you know, now

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>there's so much the three point shot is so much

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.760
<v Speaker 1>more important. How do you think his personality will mesh

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:11.840
<v Speaker 1>with Gregg Popovich? Well, it's gonna be um. Um. To

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, I'm excited for him, you know,

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 1>um being in that system because another kind of like

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>in a way Kauai where he's quiet, not you know,

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>he's not real that assertive personality out there, but he

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 1>just goes about his business, takes care it. So really

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I treat to see how he fits into pop system. Um.

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to become you know, it's continued

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 1>to be his efficient self. But like you said, the

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>key to his game is which it really hasn't come

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>as his three point shot. And he's been very good

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 1>in the mid range area that you're like, he said,

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it's the mid range shot. Is it usable as it

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>was you know, ten fifteen years ago. So I'm really

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>impreued to see how he takes in the pop system.

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna be fine because I think he's

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>a good kid, and I think he wants to you know,

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>wants to be taught, and I think it's uh. I

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be turned off to be a good

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>situation for I do too. It's weird though that LaMarcus

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Aldrich is a midpost in the low post kind of

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.919
<v Speaker 1>turnaround jump shots score and then you got to Mark

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Rosen was great in the mid range. Like that goes

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>counter to everything in two eighteen that the Scots are

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of ahead of the curve on, but that's what

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:11.919
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have to live with, so it'd be it'll

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>be fasting to see and then you know, it's it's

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting, you know, I think about Tracy Murray and

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and the volume of threes he shot when you first

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.399
<v Speaker 1>started this business and what he would be now, how

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.879
<v Speaker 1>valuable weapon now he would have to guard better than

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.880
<v Speaker 1>he did then now in order to stay on the floor.

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>But it is. It's amazing how even when I came

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>up in the mid nineties, we used to criticize big guys,

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>stop shooting jump shots and get inside and scored the

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>low block, right and everyone and we did, and and

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:42.879
<v Speaker 1>point guards were told, you know, stop, don't you pull

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>up threes, get into that mid range pull up game.

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>And now, of course that's disappeared because of analytics and

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>the realization that it's smarter to play the other way.

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It's got to be fast for you to have to

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>evaluate guys in the in the ever evolving game of basketball.

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean it was really interesting. You know,

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you austragonis uh, you know who he is, uh, In

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>terms of running all these camps. He's one of the

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>eight you grewers out for a lot last thirty years.

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:10.320
<v Speaker 1>He had a Pengas All American camp and in June,

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 1>and there was a plethora of guys in the six eight,

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>six nine range. And these guys are falling up and

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and jack and threes and their shot looks good. It's

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>almost like, you know, with Lebron. I saw Lebron uh

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>freshman software in high school, and he just knew he

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>was different. He was kind of a little bit of Magic,

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of Michael and you know, built like

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>a calling, but he wasn't built like carm alone until now.

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 1>But when you watch Kevin Durant, I see these these

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>these kids are seeing these types of stars and they're

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.879
<v Speaker 1>implementing those schools for those skills early on in their game.

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>And now we're just seeing this game trunch transformed into

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.879
<v Speaker 1>this you know, free and e. But you know something

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that on old school, Um, I'd like to point how

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>he still passed to facilitates like you did in high school.

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:55.320
<v Speaker 1>And I'm still I'm mu, still the big guy getting

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you get your button posts, you know, to be a

0:45:57.080 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>rin protector, you know, fill the lane. And I I'm

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>still saying of the bid range game, I think that's

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 1>key for me. That's gonna be key for Alonso. You know,

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Alonzo struggled in the paint area, and if he can

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>just implement that and get back going and get stronger,

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 1>his game is going to go to a different level.

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.240
<v Speaker 1>And I think that one was bringing out his shots

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<v Speaker 1>better too, in the marketsistent manner. So I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the mid range game and I still think guys

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<v Speaker 1>could still play in the back, you know, with the

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<v Speaker 1>basta baskets come to maybe I'm to gold school. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't know. I honestly don't think you're wrong.

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at look at the NBA Finals, look

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.879
<v Speaker 1>at or look at look at the Golden State Warriors, Like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>do they shoot a ton of three? Is absolutely when

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 1>they needed a bucket, they got the ball to Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant either in the post or a lot of people

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:40.399
<v Speaker 1>mid range jump shots. You know, like if if if

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<v Speaker 1>the best of the best can make seventy percent of those,

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that you still take it. And I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Lebron's done or what he's had to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's been more effective when he's had his

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<v Speaker 1>back to the basket and he can pass. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where do you think about the Olympics teams, That's

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<v Speaker 1>where Ski Lebron at the high post and the facilitated

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, using his passing acumen. So I mean, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I still well, look, I'm fascinated. I mean basketball, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that basketball has lacked energy in the West Coast,

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<v Speaker 1>but with the Lakers potentially being good um and with

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Lebron and his son bringing attention to AU basketball.

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 1>There's been a ton of talent here obviously with the

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>private schools out there recruiting. I think now it'll be

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>hyped up and it'll be great for your job, be

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.320
<v Speaker 1>great for us as well. Joel Francisco Falm on Twitter

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 1>at Joel fran Hoops, go to prep hoops dot com.

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 1>He's been a basketball scout for over thirty years. He's

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 1>the SoCal UH scouting coordinator for ESPN. He does an

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.439
<v Speaker 1>amazing job. Joel, thanks so much for joining us here

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 1>on the All Ball Podcast. Appreciate it, Appreciate a lot,

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 1>have a good one. There's just kind of a sense

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>of that's what July is about. I mentioned Kaui earlier.

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 1>He's not participating, he's not playing, and he's saying, well,

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 1>I need to transition to Toronto. And I just look,

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I think Toronto did well in the trade I do.

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you substitute out to Mark Rosen, who

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I like more than other people like, but you put

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhi Leonard in there and they got a legit shot,

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>make one last push in the East. If not, scrap it,

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 1>start again. Um, but what's you know? Greg Popovitch has

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<v Speaker 1>done nothing but take the high road. It's not like

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:23.800
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna grind you into the ground when you're playing

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 1>in Vegas, you haven't played all year. I kind of

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like he needs that um. But Kawhi Leonard is

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 1>he's beating to his own drum. And for a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who has earned, not been given, earned so much respect

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in NBA circles for playing both ends, steadily improving his

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>jump shot, which was he was not a guard, he

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 1>was a center coming up, and the big questions were, um,

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:52.360
<v Speaker 1>could he ever, you know, be a decent three point shooter?

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 1>And he's become a very good and a good ball handler.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just he's undone some of the great things, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the some of the respect that he's gained, it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to get. It's not hard to gain it back.

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<v Speaker 1>You get on the floor, you start playing for for Toronto,

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<v Speaker 1>you play the right way, even if you want to

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>make your way to the Lakers next year. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just want I'm okay with guys not playing for Pop

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.799
<v Speaker 1>who played the whole year, you know, and or played

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>for USA Basketball in the past. But when you're one

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of the best players in the game, you want to

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>play nine games this year and you should be fully healthy.

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.879
<v Speaker 1>You pass the physical, go and play, go and play,

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<v Speaker 1>be the try and take the high road the way

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Greg Pop fits just taken the high road. I don't

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>think that's a great look. Um. Last thing in regards

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<v Speaker 1>to the NBA, you saw this with Karmelo Anthony who said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, basically it was a bad fit in Olaoma

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<v Speaker 1>City because he didn't have enough time. All he had

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 1>was training camp in the season. Like what more do

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you need more than training camp in the season? How

0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>much more time? Like is there some boardroom? Yeah? It

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>was there, hoodie mellow workouts that could have that you

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 1>could have transitioned better to Oklahoma City. I'm I respect

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Carmelo Anthony because he was the best three level score

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA for a good seven or eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an amazing offensive player, but he didn't keep

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 1>himself consistently good enough shape. He wasn't a good teammate.

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<v Speaker 1>And more than anything, you know, as you mature, as

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you get to be an adult, I've said this, there's

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>three things that adults do the kids don't do. Adults

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 1>never turned down a nap, right, adults will order vegetables.

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>An adults point in when something goes wrong, they say,

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<v Speaker 1>my bad, I made a mistake. Carmelo Anthony has never said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look that didn't work in Oklahoma City, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's my fault. I didn't buy in defensively. I struggled

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:34.279
<v Speaker 1>to buy it offensively. You know, I wasn't willing to

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 1>come off the bench. That's my bad. Even if even

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 1>if it it wasn't all his fault. Taking more blame

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>then you should is the smarter path than the more

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.959
<v Speaker 1>mature path. But we've created he's becoming like an Allen

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Iverson where his his NBA career maybe over sooner than

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>it should because of his inability to find a Carmelo

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Anthony two point oh. And then as far as the

0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant tweets with CJ McCollum, we talked to him

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit earlier. Uh Kevin Durant hash He was

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>quote earlier today as saying, let me pull up this quote,

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>kind a fascinating quote from from Kevin Durant. He he said,

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 1>here's the quote to Anthony Slader. I know you think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sensitive, but I'm but just somebody who's tired of

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:26.319
<v Speaker 1>holding ship in So apparently Kevin Durant he's mad as

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.880
<v Speaker 1>hell and he's not taken anymore. And now when people

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 1>talk trash to him, he's just gonna let it, let it,

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 1>which is great, like we want dudes with no filter. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is a lot of the things he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>are going counter to either one things he's done in

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<v Speaker 1>the past and to the way he's handled himself like

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>he did have a he did have burner accounts in

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:47.120
<v Speaker 1>which he defended himself. In the past, he did he

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<v Speaker 1>was the guy who said, oh, everybody wants to go

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:52.239
<v Speaker 1>to Nixon the Lakers. He didn't agree with that in

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the past, and now he goes to the Warriors. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's really interesting some guys, the social media thing.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't rely to your tweets the way that you

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<v Speaker 1>think when you press sent, you may think you're joking.

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 1>You may even do hashtag sarcasm, and it doesn't I'm

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 1>as guilty of that as anybody. But the Kevin Durant

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 1>thing is fascinating. He's kind of finding his way as

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>he goes. Meanwhile, he's a two time NBA Finals m

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.680
<v Speaker 1>v P who's fighting with other NBA players or just

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>random dudes on Twitter. Is one of the most NBA

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 1>two thousand eighteen things I've ever heard of. It's bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bizarre. All right, we'll talk more. NBA will wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up the July recruiting period. Also talk some USA basketball

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<v Speaker 1>next week on the All Ball Podcast. Thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. Make sure you tell your friends, download, subscribe,

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