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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome man, I'm done Godly, this is all ball,

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Speaker 1: all basketball, all the time. Now we're gonna talk to

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Speaker 1: them recovering with the July evaluation period, be honest, So

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Speaker 1: of course we're gonna reach out to Vegas where everything

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Speaker 1: goes down in terms of the last weekend in July EVL.

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Speaker 1: The date of this recording is Thursday July. On Wednesday July,

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Speaker 1: there was an out. There's a huge like the AU

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Speaker 1: Game of the Year, if you will. It was the

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Speaker 1: Compton Magic versus Team Takeover, Team Takeover. Of course, you

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Speaker 1: can follow them on Twitter at T T O Basketball.

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Speaker 1: We'll get some insight into their roster as well into

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Speaker 1: the Compton Magic. They're at Compton Underscore Magic Big Game

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Speaker 1: at Bishop Gorman. Compton Magic win by two points. Full house,

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be interesting to see what happens with

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Speaker 1: Juli recruiting. There's a lot of July recruiting guys that

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Speaker 1: gonna just like Lemmings, follow the recommendation of Colin Condoleeza

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Speaker 1: they've been all sorts of different incarnations of what the

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Speaker 1: summer looks like, and almost without fail, the shoe companies survive.

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Speaker 1: The players who have um, who have been evaluated in

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Speaker 1: let alone a big time AU game, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: But let's not go gloom and doom until the actual

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Speaker 1: Because the the genius to some of these a you guys,

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Speaker 1: a company. Yes, the AU system can run a muck,

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Speaker 1: and look, do I think that all guys belong in college?

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Speaker 1: you can hear daily three to sixces from time called

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Speaker 1: three Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. The I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: appen on our serious XM channel three. UM. Part of

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Speaker 1: Two things, One Kauai not playing for the USA Basketball

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Speaker 1: He never mentioned that the words soft. He never mentioned

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Speaker 1: least apart. I heard. He never said, hey, that decision

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Speaker 1: He's just starting out The podcast is called the pull

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Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm not sure they win another championship. You can

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Speaker 1: it now. Was Kevin Durant's decisions soft? You know? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody likes to claim this is like how everyone likes

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Speaker 1: made him a priority. I don't know that Sean Miller

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Speaker 1: has missed many of his games. He was at the

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Speaker 1: same event l A on Sunday. Um Uh, they've They've

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Speaker 1: just been after him for so long. I think it

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Speaker 1: would be pretty deflating for Sean Miller and his staff

432
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Speaker 1: if they missed out on him, because I think they

433
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Speaker 1: have been the favorite. But anytime Duke comes uh sniffing

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Speaker 1: around and jump into the recruitment, it's dangerous. They've still

435
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Speaker 1: got to close it out. Okay, so let me ask you. Okay,

436
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Speaker 1: So there's Cole Anthony and I know that that his

437
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Speaker 1: dad obviously is close with Coach K. There's talk of

438
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Speaker 1: Cole Anthony and Duke. Um can they would they both

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Speaker 1: go there? And then I guess the second part to

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Speaker 1: that is, uh, Look, Jeff Capel did a great job

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Speaker 1: of spearheading a lot of their recruiting. I know Coach

442
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Speaker 1: K still there. They have a really young, active quality staff,

443
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Speaker 1: but it's different when Capel's not their first year sense

444
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Speaker 1: of could Manion and Anthony both go to Duke and

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Speaker 1: then has Duke's recruiting will to change at all without

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Speaker 1: Jeff Capel. Well, here's the thing. Cole Anthony has made

447
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Speaker 1: it clear that he's not making his college choice for

448
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Speaker 1: a long time. So this is the worst point guard

449
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Speaker 1: class I think I've ever evaluated. It might be the

450
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Speaker 1: worst overall class I've ever evaluated put point guards especially.

451
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Speaker 1: It's bad. So you can't afford to wait around for

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Speaker 1: Cole ptil May. You've got to go out and get

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Speaker 1: a get one of these big time guys. Um and

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Speaker 1: if maybe you can, you know, talk him into playing

455
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Speaker 1: with with the other guy, you get great. But uh,

456
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Speaker 1: I just think that you can't really wait around. Um So,

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Speaker 1: I think Duke's going to or has started to prioritize

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Speaker 1: nik o'mannon. Would they love to have Cole Anthony? I

459
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Speaker 1: think they definitely would love to have Cole Anthony. With

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Speaker 1: those two co exist in the same backward I don't

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Speaker 1: know the answer to that. Um So, Yeah, I think

462
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Speaker 1: that's an interesting scenario to see how it all plays out.

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Speaker 1: And obviously you mentioned Jeff Capel. Anytime you lose a

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Speaker 1: guy of that caliber, that was so good at building

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Speaker 1: relationships and um brought a lot of really good recruits

466
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Speaker 1: to the table. I think it's a it's a loss. Obviously,

467
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Speaker 1: Chris Carroroll was was hired in his place, and you

468
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Speaker 1: know Nate James was a guy that went out and

469
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Speaker 1: got Zian Williamson last year. John Shire has has been

470
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Speaker 1: the appointment on a guy like Jayson Tatum. So it's

471
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Speaker 1: not like these other guys haven't gotten players. Um. But

472
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Speaker 1: like I said, anytime you lose somebody at caliber of

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Speaker 1: Jeff Capel at hurt, I know you want to go back,

474
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Speaker 1: duck back into the gym mass you really quickly. Zion

475
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: Williamson's like a YouTube sensation, right, a dunking machine, but

476
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Speaker 1: he's a little bit heavy. Um. I mean I think

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Speaker 1: I think at his best he'll be he's got a

478
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Speaker 1: chance to be an undersized uh kind of athletic four.

479
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Speaker 1: But you really got to shoot and guard in order

480
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Speaker 1: to do that. And the one thing about coach k

481
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Speaker 1: is you know they away the white flag and they

482
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Speaker 1: played zone last year. What's your sense of of what

483
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Speaker 1: you think we'll see from Zion Williamson they play for

484
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Speaker 1: Duke next season, Well, I think we're going to see

485
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Speaker 1: the electric athlete. I think we're going to see a

486
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Speaker 1: guy that actually has a pretty good feel feel for

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Speaker 1: the game and can really pass um. I think when motivated,

488
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: he's a really good rebounder. I think one of the

489
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Speaker 1: things that that caused me to take a step back

490
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Speaker 1: to them last year was he didn't always play hard

491
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Speaker 1: and he was rarely ever in great shape. I think

492
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Speaker 1: the thing that we're going to see from him at

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Speaker 1: Duke is one They're gonna get him in shape. Uh

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Speaker 1: and too. I'm curious to see what kind of effort

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Speaker 1: he gives forth on the court. And he was known

496
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Speaker 1: for those dunks, um and the highlights and transition. Uh,

497
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Speaker 1: there's some other stuff there In terms of this passing,

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Speaker 1: I think he does that at a pretty uh at

499
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Speaker 1: a pretty good level. But he's gonna have to improve

500
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: his jump shot and uh last viewing in high school,

501
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: it was a ways away. Having Anniels check out his

502
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: podcast called the Sidelines with Evan Daniels Fox Sports, Fox

503
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: Sports dot Com. Of course a great way to pick

504
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: on just fall him on Twitter. He's got all the information.

505
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Speaker 1: Get back in the gym, get back covering those games,

506
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Speaker 1: plus Team USA. Thanks for joining us. Hey, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me on, Doug. I appreciate it. Man. Alright, let's

508
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: let's continue that conversation about Prep hoops and kind of

509
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Speaker 1: the Lebron takeover. I think it's gonna be fascinating. Guy

510
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: who more than thirty years has covered Southern California AU basketball.

511
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Speaker 1: You know, it's the college scene, frankly as the NBA

512
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: scene just really knows as a great feel for the game.

513
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Speaker 1: You gotta prep hoops dot Com or fall them on

514
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Speaker 1: Twitter at Joel fran Hoops. Joel Francisco joins us here

515
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Speaker 1: in the All Ball podcast. Uh look, you're the perfect

516
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Speaker 1: guy for this because we've seen we've seen the Ball family,

517
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Speaker 1: but we've seen and maybe that was kind of the

518
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Speaker 1: first of its kind. We've seen other big AU teams.

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Speaker 1: You go back to, you know, before me, even when

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Speaker 1: uh Rich Goldberg would have his team's mid Valley a

521
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Speaker 1: r C. They fly guys in and you know, Jason

522
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Speaker 1: Kidd would suddenly be playing with Southern California players and

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Speaker 1: the Tracy McGrady Derek Martin days and then is He

524
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Speaker 1: Washington had his Slam and Jam teams. But Lebron James

525
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: coming to Southern California with two teenage boys. It feels

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Speaker 1: like that's gonna forever change the dynamic of AU basketball.

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Speaker 1: Am I overselling it? No? I completely I completely agree.

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Speaker 1: I believe that we've got a taste of it with

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Speaker 1: the Ball family. You know, I had never in the

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Speaker 1: thirty years of covering this from when I started doing

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Speaker 1: with Tracy Murray and the following that he had all

532
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Speaker 1: the way through you know, these last thirty years, and

533
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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like the Ball situation. You know,

534
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: going to gyms, it was a circus. And then what

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Speaker 1: happened last night, you know with Lebron coming in the gym,

536
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Speaker 1: and I would figure, like, you know, have some hindsight

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Speaker 1: and the fact that okay, here comes Lebron Junior. We

538
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Speaker 1: have social media. The gym was packed and they had

539
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Speaker 1: it in the small auxiliary jam and I guess of

540
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Speaker 1: some fan came in started ripping Lebron and it just

541
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: turned into like a mini melee and then they canceled

542
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Speaker 1: the game. And it's like, what are they going to

543
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: do in the future here, you know, like if he

544
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Speaker 1: decides to go to Sierra Canyon Brentwood High School. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued to see, you know, from a safety standpoint,

546
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Speaker 1: you know what is going to happen with something, and

547
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: for that matter, it's it's fascinating because there's a lot

548
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: of parts of Lebron which are really interesting. He's done things,

549
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: he's cleared his own path, most of which I like,

550
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: some of I don't. You can. It's in arguable though

551
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Speaker 1: that in terms of being an involved parent, especially in

552
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Speaker 1: comparison to you know, Larry Bird never had a young

553
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: boy in au Michael Jordan had two kids, but he

554
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: was we don't remember him ever kind of being around.

555
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: I called a couple of their high school games and

556
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Speaker 1: he was he was never around. Like he's actually an

557
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: involved parent. He actually uh you know, he knows the

558
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Speaker 1: other kids names. He interacts with the team occasionally, he

559
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: helps coach like it is something and but thing is

560
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: that not only do you have that, but then you

561
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Speaker 1: have the hey, how are you going to keep a

562
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Speaker 1: kid on your team? If Brawnie says, hey, Dad, I

563
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: want him on my team, they decided they want to

564
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: and Lebron James picks the phone says, hey, do you

565
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Speaker 1: want to play with my son? I know, yeah, By

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Speaker 1: the way, you're gonna get all the Lebron gear you want. Like,

567
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Speaker 1: no one's gonna say no to that, are they? Oh? No,

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Speaker 1: I would think not. I mean him coming to l

569
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Speaker 1: A is going to completely you know, I mean we

570
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Speaker 1: could see another level of I mean we're gonna see

571
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Speaker 1: something different than the balls here. But yeah, I mean,

572
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Speaker 1: you know the way kids transfer nowadays, it's it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You know, like c IF said something like sixteen thousand

574
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: kids transferred. That was even last year, multiple sports. But

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Speaker 1: now with Braun coming in and you know how he

576
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Speaker 1: manages his own NBA teams, Yeah, you could see him.

577
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: You could see you could start crazy these you know,

578
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: all Star AU teams and you know wherever school is,

579
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Speaker 1: Sun ends up at, you know where he's gonna be

580
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Speaker 1: pulling kids from everywhere. Maybe. Yeah, you mentioned all the

581
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Speaker 1: transfers in the CIF, and I know this happens everywhere.

582
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: As a national podcast, I think people are sitting there

583
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Speaker 1: on their heads and saying, yeah, we have lots of

584
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: problems with kids. Uh, it's kind of on steroids here

585
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Speaker 1: in southern California. Do you think the player movement in

586
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Speaker 1: the NBA is the cause of the player movement in

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Speaker 1: a U? In high school? Basketball, or do you think

588
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: it's the other way around where kids are always moving

589
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Speaker 1: around a U in high school and now they become

590
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Speaker 1: pros and now so they don't get they don't get

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Speaker 1: as tied to a place or two a team as

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Speaker 1: they used to which which which is the which is

593
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: the chicken and which is the egg? Um, I would

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Speaker 1: say the ladder. I would think since these kids now

595
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: um are playing against each other and they all know

596
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: each other now, then's probably what he's mad. Or teams

597
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: where they're playing in these national based tournaments, they're becoming

598
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: friends and they keep these connections going. They're never in

599
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Speaker 1: college enough to create rivalries, so they just go from

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Speaker 1: this a U team sprinkling for the n b A

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Speaker 1: and they and like Lavon forming his team in Miami

602
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: and then and it's just escalated from there. And so

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Speaker 1: I just I really believe it started with with club

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Speaker 1: basketball at a basketball wherever you want to call it,

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Speaker 1: with these guys that have become known that you know,

606
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: they've known each other for so long and they become

607
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: friends and they developed these friend steps and now you

608
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: have thout the media and it's created a perfect storm.

609
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Speaker 1: What's your sense of what's going to happen. I know

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Speaker 1: that many people in your professional and you, I think

611
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: you tweet out something which is great, which is like, hey,

612
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: the new rules potentially could still have the tournaments, just

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00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: the coaches wouldn't be allowed the tournaments, which would be

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Speaker 1: great for you as a professional evaluator that people respect

615
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Speaker 1: for more than thirty years. Like, just because coach K

616
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: can't sit there and have his assistance bird dog a kid,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you can't evaluate him. Um. What's your

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00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: any guests as to what what the rules end up

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Speaker 1: being for the future of the July recruiting period? Um?

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Speaker 1: What I can see somebody mention that, let's say the

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Speaker 1: biggest one that each of them would moves to August

622
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: or something. I said, Well, that would be impossible for

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Speaker 1: my take because so many schools now including in southern

624
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: California were starting school in August. So I could see

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Speaker 1: a lot of these tournaments moving to June while the

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Speaker 1: Insuay has their camps whatever in July and have for

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Speaker 1: you know, the valuahere like me, the best of both

628
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Speaker 1: work and this is all that June and then it's

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Speaker 1: a live And I felt the number one thing for

630
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Speaker 1: me that I've had it with um, you know, restricting

631
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Speaker 1: coaches from coming out. I feel, for me is the

632
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Speaker 1: most important month. I would rather watch the kids play

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Speaker 1: for me personally with his high school team, see how

634
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: he leads, see how he carries his team. You know,

635
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: I feel like that's I think I can get a

636
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: greater sense of who this kid is rather than seeing,

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Speaker 1: you know, in these multiopol club games you see in July. Yeah,

638
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: you bring up a great point. You know, my brothers,

639
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, is recruited at all the different levels, mostly

640
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: in California, and then of course we're can stay for

641
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: the last four years. And I don't I actually think

642
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: they're working in the opposite way of the of the

643
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: way they should. You should have assistance that are allowed

644
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: to go out as often as they want, right, just

645
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: go out. And and if your job is to evaluate

646
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: and recruited kid, why are we putting limits on it.

647
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact is that I understand. My dad

648
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: used to tell the stories of of him, you know,

649
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: sleeping over at a kid's house that they were trying

650
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: and sitting on, sitting on a kid that they have, Like, okay,

651
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: that's a little bit overboard, but it's like limiting texts.

652
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: It's like when you couldn't text a kid, Like, look,

653
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: if a kid doesn't want doesn't want you to text him,

654
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: he'll just block you or he'll just delete it. If

655
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: a kid does, if he gets creeped out by a

656
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: guy keep coming to his game, he'll just you'll end

657
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: up wearing the kid out and he'll it'll turn him off.

658
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: I just let us let recruiting assistance do their job.

659
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: You want to restrict head coaches so they're on campus more,

660
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: if you want to make sure that there's always a

661
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: coach on campus, like, that's fine, but this idea that

662
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: somehow you're protecting assistant coaches. All right, maybe August is dark,

663
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: nobody can see, anybody knows. But outside of that, isn't

664
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: it fair to say, like, hey, just let him recruit,

665
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: don't pay your players, don't change their grades, and kind

666
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: of the rest uh just almost a free market sort

667
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: of recruiting system. Yeah, I agree with that too, and

668
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: the fact that I believe that that we implement some

669
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: system like that will cut back on the multiple you know,

670
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: the ridiculous numbers are seeing in kids that are going

671
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: to schools. They're being overrecruited and they end up bouncing

672
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: back to various other schools, you know, through a lower

673
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: level because in hindsight, these coaches don't have a great feel,

674
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, for who they're recruiting. I mean, they get

675
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: such a limited time. There's some games going on until

676
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: Joel am I crazy. But I've always thought, you know,

677
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: we talked about transfers and the reason that players transfer.

678
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: We always believe it's because the kid wants more, the

679
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: parent wants more, and and that's some of it. But

680
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: but a good portion of it is the coach doesn't

681
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: exactly know what he's getting and the player doesn't exactly

682
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: have a great feel of what he's getting into because

683
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: there because we're limiting the relationship and the length and

684
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: the quality of the relationship between who's recruiting and who's

685
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: being recruited. Is that is that a fair? Like? I know,

686
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: that's that's absolutely fair. And the thing is, when I

687
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: talked at two kids at camps, I say, hey, you,

688
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: I think what they missed the point? And I think parents,

689
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: you get caught up in the highest level and it's

690
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: like you need to find the best bit for your kid.

691
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: That's the bottom line, And here's the kid that's getting

692
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: recruited let's say at lm U Pepperdine or whatever. And

693
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: then he goes off in one game and washing and

694
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: ss to the picture. Well I'm going to go to

695
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: Washington now, you know, instead of saying no way, the

696
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: Pepperdine system fits me better, it's you know, as that's

697
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: the kind of situation that get fallen into a right. Uh,

698
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: you've seen a lot of kids for a lot of years.

699
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 1: Give me the most the kid you've seen this uh

700
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: this spring and summer, that's most impressive to you? Most

701
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: impressive player. Um, I probably have to go out west. Um,

702
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: here's a guy that it's Evan Mowbley, is older brother.

703
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: Isam always going to u SC that the US. He

704
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: hired the dad recently in the spring. Evan mobile for me. Um,

705
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: he's a kid. He's basically a combination. I'm not saying

706
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: he's the next Durrant or Garnett type, but he's kind

707
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: of a combination of the two in terms of he's

708
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: got perimitive skills. He's got I saw Kevin Ronnett in

709
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: high school. He's as quick off the floor, he's got

710
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: in between games, he's got he's got the whole package.

711
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: This is going to be a matter of strength in

712
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: terms of him going forward. But I would be stocked.

713
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: He's not NBA player down the road two or three

714
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: years ago. Cash to Stanley was that young player coming

715
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: up into high school basketball that everyone was talking about.

716
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: He's still very very well regarded, but but but not

717
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: nearly at the level that he was previously. You know,

718
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: he's top twenty to top thirty, maybe top forty nationally.

719
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: What type of impact do you think cash you Stanley?

720
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: Who is that Syrican in which one of the school

721
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: big private schools in southern California. He was originally a

722
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: Harvard West like hey Way that we were talking about

723
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: earlier for people were out of the area. What what

724
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: happened to Kasha Stanley and what type of impact do

725
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: you think will have when he ultimately plays in college? Well,

726
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, Cashi's family is going to have

727
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: um I think when you see him in the club situation,

728
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: in a wide open game, he's an NBA athlete, There's

729
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: no question about that. But for me, you know, for

730
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: someone that we're doing a long time, and I'm sure

731
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: you would get the same feel for him if you

732
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: watch them actually in the game. He has improved, but

733
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: there's not something he could totally depend on in a

734
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: game when it slows down. His jump shot is still

735
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: needs to get more consistent. Is decision making? You know,

736
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: as every attention all of these can be a point

737
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: guard because everybody needs to be a point guard now.

738
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry you played the position. It takes a

739
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: certain feel for the game. Could be that to play

740
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: that player. And so I think now so if someone

741
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: just allowing him to be a two guard and work

742
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: on that skill set, then I think he could be

743
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: a very good college player. And I'm probably a pro.

744
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: But right now, for me, he's got some areas he

745
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: really needs to grow in. It's it's gonna be fascinating

746
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: to see if he does go because it was it

747
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: was a little bit too much, uh too soon. There's

748
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: a big guy in southern California. I would I would

749
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: love to have your opinion on kid named Carl Lewis

750
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: at Linwood High School. Six put up some big numbers

751
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: this year, but you know, like, look, we're in the

752
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: age of the big man that doesn't score at the

753
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: low block. We're in the age of you've got to

754
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: be a roller and a finisher at the rim and

755
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: a rim protector or a stretch five. What's the prospects

756
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: like for a kid like Carl Lewis who's a rising jr. UM.

757
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: What you know, Carl Lewis, he has some stuff off

758
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: the court that needs to be taken care of. Um,

759
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: He's he's got a long way to go in terms

760
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: of becoming a bassal player. Yes, he's built like Karl

761
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: Malone and but in terms of you know, it's skill fundamental, Um,

762
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: he hasn't spent a lot of time. You know, he's

763
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: done a lot of this stuff going on, put it

764
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: bluntly and put it violay. In fact that I don't

765
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: think he's really had a lot of time to work

766
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: on those aspects of the game. So for me, massively rated.

767
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: He's one of these guys that you know, played at

768
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: lim Win High School, didn't play against you know, the

769
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: greatest competition In terms episode, there was no one that

770
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: can handle him. But so there's certain areas in his

771
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: game that he really needs UH to take care of,

772
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: as well as some other aspects of his wife, but

773
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: come together before if he's able to play college. In

774
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's great, great feedback from Joel Francisco has

775
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: been doing this over thirty years. Is a great job

776
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: in southern California. Follow him on Twitter. You got to

777
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: prep hoops. You got to prep hoops dot com. Last

778
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: thing I want to ask you about Kawhi Leonard because

779
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: he look, he was Gateorade Player of the Year, but

780
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: he played MLK in out in Riverside. He was a

781
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: six five six six postman who has become you know,

782
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: a top five by many people's accounts, third best player

783
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: in the NBA. And because he's super super quiet, we

784
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of him. What's what's your

785
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: assessment as a guy who saw him at his his

786
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: infancy as a player, grow into a star at San

787
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: Diego State, a superstar in the NBA, and now trying

788
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: to we think, manipulate his way back to Los Angeles.

789
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: What's your assessment of kind of the situation, how he's

790
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: handled and what the ultimate end game is um You know,

791
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: watching Kauai in high school, you don't. And to be honest,

792
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: you I never thought he'd reached the level that he's

793
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: at right now. I thought he's I thought he was

794
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: a high major recruit, you know, top fifty national propects

795
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: because length, he's got the biggest hands. But you know something,

796
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: he's always been a no nonsense player, no emotion and

797
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: just go out there and I'm gonna be productive and

798
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: do my job at both ends of the floor. However,

799
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: this year, what's the story that I've heard, I become skeptical,

800
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: you know about okay, where in fact is and I

801
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: don't want to know. Character, you know, character assassinates this guy.

802
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: But I heard he was able to play and he

803
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: chose not to play, And so that for me, that

804
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: brings up red flags with directions who's handling his situations? Now,

805
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: this is not the same kid that I talked to

806
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: in high school and you know, got to know true

807
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: the ac and all that stuff. So I'm kind of

808
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: curious to see, really intrigued to see how he does

809
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: in the Toronto this year and really watch his approach

810
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: to the game. And because we all know what he

811
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: can do on the basketball or I mean arguably what

812
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: the best maybe the best way player in the game today.

813
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: So I'm very intrigued to see what he goes this

814
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: year at Toronto. What about it? What about Dorozen? Like

815
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: I do feel like de Rosen somehow and he was

816
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: bad in in the playoff series against UM against Lebron Javelers,

817
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: he just he wasn't good. He was fantastic in their

818
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: in their first round series, fantastic. I saw him at

819
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: the Garden. This is two years ago, Drop thirty nine

820
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: the Garden. I was like, damn, Demard Rosen. It is

821
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: a but he is the closest. He's got a Kobe

822
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: style of offensive game. Um, it's just you know, now

823
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: there's so much the three point shot is so much

824
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: more important. How do you think his personality will mesh

825
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: with Gregg Popovich? Well, it's gonna be um. Um. To

826
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm excited for him, you know,

827
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: um being in that system because another kind of like

828
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: in a way Kauai where he's quiet, not you know,

829
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: he's not real that assertive personality out there, but he

830
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: just goes about his business, takes care it. So really

831
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: I treat to see how he fits into pop system. Um.

832
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: I think he's going to become you know, it's continued

833
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: to be his efficient self. But like you said, the

834
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: key to his game is which it really hasn't come

835
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: as his three point shot. And he's been very good

836
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: in the mid range area that you're like, he said,

837
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: it's the mid range shot. Is it usable as it

838
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: was you know, ten fifteen years ago. So I'm really

839
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: impreued to see how he takes in the pop system.

840
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine because I think he's

841
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: a good kid, and I think he wants to you know,

842
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: wants to be taught, and I think it's uh. I

843
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be turned off to be a good

844
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: situation for I do too. It's weird though that LaMarcus

845
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: Aldrich is a midpost in the low post kind of

846
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: turnaround jump shots score and then you got to Mark

847
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: Rosen was great in the mid range. Like that goes

848
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: counter to everything in two eighteen that the Scots are

849
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: kind of ahead of the curve on, but that's what

850
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to live with, so it'd be it'll

851
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: be fasting to see and then you know, it's it's

852
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: it's interesting, you know, I think about Tracy Murray and

853
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: and the volume of threes he shot when you first

854
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: started this business and what he would be now, how

855
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: valuable weapon now he would have to guard better than

856
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: he did then now in order to stay on the floor.

857
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: But it is. It's amazing how even when I came

858
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: up in the mid nineties, we used to criticize big guys,

859
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: stop shooting jump shots and get inside and scored the

860
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: low block, right and everyone and we did, and and

861
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: point guards were told, you know, stop, don't you pull

862
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: up threes, get into that mid range pull up game.

863
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: And now, of course that's disappeared because of analytics and

864
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: the realization that it's smarter to play the other way.

865
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: It's got to be fast for you to have to

866
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: evaluate guys in the in the ever evolving game of basketball.

867
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it was really interesting. You know,

868
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: you austragonis uh, you know who he is, uh, In

869
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: terms of running all these camps. He's one of the

870
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: eight you grewers out for a lot last thirty years.

871
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: He had a Pengas All American camp and in June,

872
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: and there was a plethora of guys in the six eight,

873
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: six nine range. And these guys are falling up and

874
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: and jack and threes and their shot looks good. It's

875
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: almost like, you know, with Lebron. I saw Lebron uh

876
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: freshman software in high school, and he just knew he

877
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: was different. He was kind of a little bit of Magic,

878
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of Michael and you know, built like

879
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: a calling, but he wasn't built like carm alone until now.

880
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: But when you watch Kevin Durant, I see these these

881
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: these kids are seeing these types of stars and they're

882
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: implementing those schools for those skills early on in their game.

883
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: And now we're just seeing this game trunch transformed into

884
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: this you know, free and e. But you know something

885
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: that on old school, Um, I'd like to point how

886
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: he still passed to facilitates like you did in high school.

887
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: And I'm still I'm mu, still the big guy getting

888
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: you get your button posts, you know, to be a

889
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: rin protector, you know, fill the lane. And I I'm

890
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: still saying of the bid range game, I think that's

891
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: key for me. That's gonna be key for Alonso. You know,

892
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: Alonzo struggled in the paint area, and if he can

893
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: just implement that and get back going and get stronger,

894
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: his game is going to go to a different level.

895
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: And I think that one was bringing out his shots

896
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: better too, in the marketsistent manner. So I mean, I

897
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: think the mid range game and I still think guys

898
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: could still play in the back, you know, with the

899
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: basta baskets come to maybe I'm to gold school. No,

900
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I honestly don't think you're wrong.

901
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: I mean, look at look at the NBA Finals, look

902
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: at or look at look at the Golden State Warriors, Like, look,

903
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: do they shoot a ton of three? Is absolutely when

904
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: they needed a bucket, they got the ball to Kevin

905
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: Durant either in the post or a lot of people

906
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: mid range jump shots. You know, like if if if

907
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: the best of the best can make seventy percent of those,

908
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: that you still take it. And I do think that

909
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: I think the Lebron's done or what he's had to do.

910
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: You know, he's been more effective when he's had his

911
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: back to the basket and he can pass. You know,

912
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: that's where do you think about the Olympics teams, That's

913
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: where Ski Lebron at the high post and the facilitated

914
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, using his passing acumen. So I mean, I know,

915
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: I still well, look, I'm fascinated. I mean basketball, it's

916
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: not that basketball has lacked energy in the West Coast,

917
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: but with the Lakers potentially being good um and with

918
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, Lebron and his son bringing attention to AU basketball.

919
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: There's been a ton of talent here obviously with the

920
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: private schools out there recruiting. I think now it'll be

921
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: hyped up and it'll be great for your job, be

922
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: great for us as well. Joel Francisco Falm on Twitter

923
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: at Joel fran Hoops, go to prep hoops dot com.

924
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: He's been a basketball scout for over thirty years. He's

925
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: the SoCal UH scouting coordinator for ESPN. He does an

926
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 1: amazing job. Joel, thanks so much for joining us here

927
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: on the All Ball Podcast. Appreciate it, Appreciate a lot,

928
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: have a good one. There's just kind of a sense

929
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: of that's what July is about. I mentioned Kaui earlier.

930
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: He's not participating, he's not playing, and he's saying, well,

931
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: I need to transition to Toronto. And I just look,

932
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: I think Toronto did well in the trade I do.

933
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if you substitute out to Mark Rosen, who

934
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: I like more than other people like, but you put

935
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard in there and they got a legit shot,

936
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: make one last push in the East. If not, scrap it,

937
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: start again. Um, but what's you know? Greg Popovitch has

938
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: done nothing but take the high road. It's not like

939
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna grind you into the ground when you're playing

940
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: in Vegas, you haven't played all year. I kind of

941
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: feel like he needs that um. But Kawhi Leonard is

942
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: he's beating to his own drum. And for a guy

943
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: who has earned, not been given, earned so much respect

944
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: in NBA circles for playing both ends, steadily improving his

945
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: jump shot, which was he was not a guard, he

946
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: was a center coming up, and the big questions were, um,

947
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: could he ever, you know, be a decent three point shooter?

948
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: And he's become a very good and a good ball handler.

949
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: He's just he's undone some of the great things, some

950
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: of the some of the respect that he's gained, it's

951
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: easy to get. It's not hard to gain it back.

952
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: You get on the floor, you start playing for for Toronto,

953
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: you play the right way, even if you want to

954
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: make your way to the Lakers next year. But I

955
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: just want I'm okay with guys not playing for Pop

956
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: who played the whole year, you know, and or played

957
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: for USA Basketball in the past. But when you're one

958
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: of the best players in the game, you want to

959
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: play nine games this year and you should be fully healthy.

960
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: You pass the physical, go and play, go and play,

961
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: be the try and take the high road the way

962
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: Greg Pop fits just taken the high road. I don't

963
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: think that's a great look. Um. Last thing in regards

964
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: to the NBA, you saw this with Karmelo Anthony who said,

965
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, basically it was a bad fit in Olaoma

966
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: City because he didn't have enough time. All he had

967
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: was training camp in the season. Like what more do

968
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: you need more than training camp in the season? How

969
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: much more time? Like is there some boardroom? Yeah? It

970
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: was there, hoodie mellow workouts that could have that you

971
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: could have transitioned better to Oklahoma City. I'm I respect

972
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony because he was the best three level score

973
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: in the NBA for a good seven or eight years.

974
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: He was an amazing offensive player, but he didn't keep

975
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: himself consistently good enough shape. He wasn't a good teammate.

976
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Speaker 1: And more than anything, you know, as you mature, as

977
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Speaker 1: you get to be an adult, I've said this, there's

978
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: three things that adults do the kids don't do. Adults

979
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: never turned down a nap, right, adults will order vegetables.

980
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: An adults point in when something goes wrong, they say,

981
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: my bad, I made a mistake. Carmelo Anthony has never said,

982
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, look that didn't work in Oklahoma City, and

983
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: it's my fault. I didn't buy in defensively. I struggled

984
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: to buy it offensively. You know, I wasn't willing to

985
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: come off the bench. That's my bad. Even if even

986
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: if it it wasn't all his fault. Taking more blame

987
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: then you should is the smarter path than the more

988
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 1: mature path. But we've created he's becoming like an Allen

989
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: Iverson where his his NBA career maybe over sooner than

990
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: it should because of his inability to find a Carmelo

991
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: Anthony two point oh. And then as far as the

992
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant tweets with CJ McCollum, we talked to him

993
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. Uh Kevin Durant hash He was

994
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: quote earlier today as saying, let me pull up this quote,

995
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: kind a fascinating quote from from Kevin Durant. He he said,

996
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: here's the quote to Anthony Slader. I know you think

997
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm sensitive, but I'm but just somebody who's tired of

998
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: holding ship in So apparently Kevin Durant he's mad as

999
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: hell and he's not taken anymore. And now when people

1000
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: talk trash to him, he's just gonna let it, let it,

1001
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: which is great, like we want dudes with no filter. Uh.

1002
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: The problem is a lot of the things he's saying

1003
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: are going counter to either one things he's done in

1004
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: the past and to the way he's handled himself like

1005
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: he did have a he did have burner accounts in

1006
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: which he defended himself. In the past, he did he

1007
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: was the guy who said, oh, everybody wants to go

1008
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: to Nixon the Lakers. He didn't agree with that in

1009
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: the past, and now he goes to the Warriors. And

1010
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting some guys, the social media thing.

1011
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: People don't rely to your tweets the way that you

1012
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: think when you press sent, you may think you're joking.

1013
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: You may even do hashtag sarcasm, and it doesn't I'm

1014
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: as guilty of that as anybody. But the Kevin Durant

1015
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: thing is fascinating. He's kind of finding his way as

1016
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: he goes. Meanwhile, he's a two time NBA Finals m

1017
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Speaker 1: v P who's fighting with other NBA players or just

1018
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: random dudes on Twitter. Is one of the most NBA

1019
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen things I've ever heard of. It's bizarre.

1020
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,479
Speaker 1: It's bizarre. All right, we'll talk more. NBA will wrap

1021
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Speaker 1: up the July recruiting period. Also talk some USA basketball

1022
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Speaker 1: next week on the All Ball Podcast. Thanks so much

1023
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Speaker 1: for listening. Make sure you tell your friends, download, subscribe,

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