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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty arms Strong and Jetty and

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Speaker 3: People don't want to hear about these stupid ideas that

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Speaker 3: they have transgender for everybody. And again the men and

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Speaker 3: women's sports. What is that a ninety to ten deal.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know who the ten would be, but

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Speaker 3: they were in the fighting for it.

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Speaker 2: And I try and.

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Speaker 3: Say to myself, because you always like to understand where

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Speaker 3: your opponent is, whether it's in business or anything else.

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Speaker 3: Is there something I don't understand, but we don't understand it.

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Speaker 4: So Trump did a big interview with Maria Barbromo yes

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Speaker 4: day and a lot of different issues, but this is

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Speaker 4: what's getting the most attention, so we can discuss.

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Speaker 2: Look, I know that you inherited a mess, and you say,

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Speaker 2: I don't been here far.

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Speaker 3: Are you expecting a recession this year? I hate to

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Speaker 3: predict things like that. There is a period of transition

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Speaker 3: because what we're doing is very big. We're bringing wealth

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Speaker 3: back to America. That's a big thing, and there are

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Speaker 3: always periods of it takes a little time. It takes

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Speaker 3: a little time, but I think it should be great

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Speaker 3: for us.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it should be great.

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Speaker 4: So the fact that he didn't immediately say no, there's

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Speaker 4: not going to be a recession.

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Speaker 2: Him understanding the way the media.

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Speaker 4: Works and everything means something, right, right, I thought his

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Speaker 4: very brief screen about you know, it's important in any

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Speaker 4: sort of negotiation, I ask yourself, is there something I

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Speaker 4: don't understand about the other side?

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Speaker 2: Occasionally, because Trump's.

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Speaker 5: Very simple populist messaging sometimes strikes people including me, is

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Speaker 5: like crazy oversimplified, but that's often intentional, and occasionally he

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Speaker 5: shows a glimpse behind the curtain, and he's much more

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Speaker 5: analytical than he comes off. I think, right, can we

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Speaker 5: break out of the either like Trump or you don't

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Speaker 5: like him for just a minute to have this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Sure, so he's talking to the listener, I know you can, But.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking about friends I know who would never never

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Speaker 4: be able to get past the they hate Trump so

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Speaker 4: much or whatever. But he talked a little bit about

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Speaker 4: having long term goals, thinking long term, how China thinks

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Speaker 4: in centuries in the interview, and I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 4: On MSNBC this Morning where they do hate Trump so

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Speaker 4: much they can hardly see straight. David Ignatius of the

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Speaker 4: Washington Post saying this, He made a.

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Speaker 6: Very interesting comment yesterday that I did pay attention to

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Speaker 6: where he said China works on one hundred year cycle

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Speaker 6: of planning in the United States goes horror to quarter,

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Speaker 6: something I've heard from corporate CEOs for for years, and

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Speaker 6: I think he's right about that. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 6: to endorse the policies, but we do tend to get

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Speaker 6: so caught up in these short term movements that we

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Speaker 6: forget about what would be good.

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Speaker 2: In for the long run in the country.

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Speaker 6: But in any event, Wall Street's got the jitters today.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: And it reminded me is that we've been saying for

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Speaker 4: years on this show. You always say that, you know,

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Speaker 4: the Dow is not the economy, or what's happening with

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Speaker 4: the stock market is not the economy. And Wall Street, man,

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Speaker 4: the Wall Street Journal gets quoted all the time. We

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Speaker 4: quoted all the time, and it's a great newspaper, but man,

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Speaker 4: they're a quarter by quarter what's best for the next

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Speaker 4: lot of money off of being able to read what's

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Speaker 4: going to happen quarter by quarter by quarter. But I

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Speaker 4: remember reading an article in the Wall Street Journal years ago.

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Speaker 4: There's never been any movement on this on how when

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Speaker 4: reporting rules changed, and I don't remember when that happened,

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Speaker 4: but we went from reporting, you know, yearly or whatever

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Speaker 4: to quarterly to the stockholders really change the way we

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Speaker 4: do business in the United States, and people.

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Speaker 2: Started changing chasing that quarter.

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Speaker 4: And if you've ever worked for a big company, you've

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Speaker 4: seen them do things that you know is structurally a

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Speaker 4: bad long term idea. But they did it because it's

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Speaker 4: going to boost the stock price this quarter, and they're

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Speaker 4: the next quarter. And that's what Trump's trying to talk about.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if you can actually do it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you can bring manufacturing back to

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Speaker 4: China has its own orbit and we have our own

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you can do that in a

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Speaker 4: one term presidency. But that's what he's talking about. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: A couple of thoughts.

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Speaker 5: That is the challenge because it could easily take thirty

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Speaker 5: years to do it thoroughly. And it's so easy to demogogue, right,

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Speaker 5: difficult in between period in a democracy from the left

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Speaker 2: Oh sure, absolutely, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean if if a you know, Jos Shapiro whatever,

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Speaker 5: decided that, you know, that's right, we got to onshore

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Speaker 5: a bunch of stuff because China are dirty communists and

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Speaker 5: bent on world domination and evil and it's it. But

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Speaker 5: it would take a couple two three decades to thoroughly

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Speaker 5: restructure the economy that way, and it's very difficult for

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Speaker 5: democracy to do that. And of course Trump's only got

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Speaker 5: four years and if his successor, whoever that might be,

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Speaker 5: gets in and is willing to continue those policies. But again,

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Speaker 5: the difficulty is we vote every few years, and the

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Speaker 5: average voter is completely unsophisticated. Now, you folks, you've got

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Speaker 5: in terms of savvy, you've got multiple PhDs. But you know,

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Speaker 5: the average schlub who turns out to the polls having

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Speaker 5: been convinced that they're going to take away the old

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Speaker 5: people's social security or Trump's a new Hitler.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a hell of a lot of voters.

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Speaker 5: And you can you can get those people fired up

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Speaker 5: and cut off the world's wisest long term plan at

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Speaker 5: the knees without even trying this.

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Speaker 4: This is a really big picture issue though. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think this gets to the core of is an

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Speaker 4: authoritarian system where one guy makes the decisions like China

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Speaker 4: better than our system on this issue. We can people

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Speaker 4: govern themselves on this issue, think long term and the

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Speaker 4: reality of the new world.

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Speaker 2: No, but thank you for asking.

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Speaker 5: The other point I was going to make is actually

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Speaker 5: kind of a preemptive answer to that question, and that

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Speaker 5: is another thing democracy are famous for is being reactive.

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Speaker 5: One of my favorite quotes from Churchill was when he

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Speaker 5: said nothing changes until you're invaded. You can't get people

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Speaker 5: hit the fan. I was thinking about this, oh, I

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Speaker 5: was listening to a good podcast and really thinking deeply

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Speaker 5: about the These are the things I daydream about. If

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Speaker 5: I were to design a plan for either party to

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Speaker 5: truly do long term reform of social security and medicaid,

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Speaker 5: what would the messaging be, How would we approach that

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Speaker 5: and like preemptively guard ourselves against the demagoguery of they.

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Speaker 2: Want old people to starve?

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Speaker 5: And honestly, I couldn't come up with anything that would work.

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Speaker 5: We will do nothing about those situations until they crash,

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Speaker 5: and then everybody will say how did this happen? And

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Speaker 5: we will have to enact strong, unpalatable measures to save

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Speaker 5: those two programs.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know how to head it off

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry to be discouraging, well like a bad talk

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Speaker 4: Dave Chappelle had a joke over the weekend of uh,

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Speaker 4: this all sounds great until you're paying nine thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: for an iPhone.

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Speaker 2: The problem being.

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Speaker 4: If China gets what they want, they're just gonna They're

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Speaker 4: just gonna take the Apple factory, and we'ren't right and

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Speaker 4: unless we're willing to send in the Marines, there's not

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Speaker 4: gonna be any getting it back. And then we'll have

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Speaker 4: to all of a sudden figure out how to make

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Speaker 4: the iPhone or MacBook or whatever in the United States

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Speaker 4: or in India or some friendly country or whatever. So

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Speaker 4: it's either there'll be fifty thousand YUS four or five years.

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Speaker 2: So it's either plan ahead or or it's gonna be worse.

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Speaker 4: Since again, but if we can't deal with the simple

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Speaker 4: math of social security as an issue as you've been

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Speaker 4: talking about. Well, then we're certainly not gonna deal with

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Speaker 4: the complexities of bringing manufacturing back to the United States

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Speaker 4: because we found out during COVID all the medicines and

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Speaker 4: masks and every every single thing you needed was made

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Speaker 4: in China or somewhere else, because we don't make anything right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, other than certain aspects of Trump's foreign policy, which

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Speaker 5: I don't like it all, there a hell of a

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Speaker 5: lot he's doing that I think is great. I am

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Speaker 5: uncomfortably reminded of when Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor of

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Speaker 5: California and he had like was it, five giant reforms

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Speaker 5: which was a terrible tactical error, Yes, you lunkhead, because

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Speaker 5: all of the special interest groups were able to pool

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Speaker 5: where even though the pulling on the individual topics was very,

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Speaker 5: very good, and I just I find myself thinking, if

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Speaker 5: the disruptions to the economy because of a legitimate long

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Speaker 5: term you know, brand of thinking make it really easy

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Speaker 5: all the enthusiasm for that will will go away. Elon Musk,

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Speaker 5: the world's richest man is brought on this recession be

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Speaker 5: fairly easy to sell and there goes the anti woke

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Speaker 5: you know momentum. Maybe the reforming the universities in schools

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Speaker 2: I just I'm a little concerned. There's so much going on.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you could get a group of economists to

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Speaker 4: discuss this and check their trump fear, slash, love or

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Speaker 4: hatred at the door, do we need to think? Okay,

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Speaker 4: the whole globalization thing is over. That moment is over.

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Speaker 4: China is going to have their sphere of influence and

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Speaker 4: it might be half the planet. Everything is going to divide.

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Speaker 4: We need to bring everything back or to friendly countries.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 4: Would most economists agree with that or not? I wonder

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Speaker 4: I think they would.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I don't unless they have a much rosier

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Speaker 5: view of China and its future than any sane human

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd agree.

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Speaker 4: If that needs to happen. There's going to be an

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Speaker 4: ugly period of making that happen. Yes, or more likely

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Speaker 4: it's going to be what you said, when when it

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Speaker 4: we'll have to figure out how to make a car

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Speaker 4: in the United States, an iPhone in the United States,

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Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff. I just I'm not I

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Speaker 4: don't I can't go with you that far that it's

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Speaker 4: all going to be made in the United States. I

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Speaker 4: think it'll be more regionalism as opposed to globalism. And

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Speaker 4: I just hope Trump's being realistic about well, he didn't

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Speaker 4: even want it massing. He didn't want to make things

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Speaker 4: in Mexico or Canada. Right now, It's exactly where I

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Speaker 4: was going with this. I think you would have to

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Speaker 4: go full on, like I don't want to get too

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Speaker 4: technical here, partly because my memories of this crap pretty fuzzy.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to go full protectionist, mercantilist, isolationist economics

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Speaker 5: because that would that would so radically remake the economy,

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Speaker 5: that would shake out over you know, half a century

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Speaker 5: Thank you for making the point better than conservatives ever could.

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Speaker 2: I'm Christian, friends, Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 1: This is what it sounds like at the Highatt Regency

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Speaker 5: You are ali it, but and you like fast anthems.

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Speaker 4: Well, all that, because it gets to the whole Only

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Speaker 5: car and I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

442
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 5: They quote this one bloke. He sees them as both

443
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 5: an annoyance and potential hazard. Changing settings can require multiple

444
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 5: taps and usually doesn't deliver physical.

445
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: Feedback like the twist of a knob or the press

446
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: of a.

447
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 5: Button that you can actually feel for twist, how far

448
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 5: you've twisted it, or whatever.

449
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: He says.

450
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 5: Quote, you have to sit there and stare at what

451
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 5: you're doing, which means you're taking your eyes off.

452
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: The road, no doubt.

453
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got a really cool car, but the touch

454
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 5: screen is way too cumbersome.

455
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I shouldn't have to look and touch that many

456
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 4: things just to turn on the radio. Too many screens

457
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 4: flying around, too much attention. Yeah, it's quite amazing. Yeah, yeah,

458
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 4: I would agree.

459
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 5: Some twenty eight percent of new car buyers favorite buttons

460
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 5: over touch screens, with that number is growing. And then

461
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 5: they get into a story that I don't know anything about,

462
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 5: but I guess with a lot of electric cars, including Tesla's,

463
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 5: but in this case a Volkswagen model, they're like crazy technically.

464
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: Advanced, is that the right word.

465
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Speaker 5: But this guy who lives in Canada, I believe, went

466
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 5: out on a really cold morning and he's gonna try

467
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 5: to remotely start charging it blah blah blah. But the

468
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 5: doors wouldn't open because their sensor equipped handles were on

469
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 5: the fritz in the cold. He had one of those

470
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 5: cars that like senses your approach and the handles emerge

471
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 5: and then they sense your fingers and blah blah blah.

472
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: So he couldn't get into the car.

473
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Speaker 5: He had to shimmy into his car through the trunk,

474
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 5: like you had to back when your car was falling

475
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 5: apart many years ago.

476
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 4: My car does that because of the app on my watch,

477
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 4: which I find just amazing. So because I'm wearing my

478
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 4: watch with the car app on it, it opens the

479
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Speaker 4: doors when I walk up to it.

480
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 5: Now, you wouldn't think the three point one percent or

481
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: three point one problems per one hundred vehicles of owners

482
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Speaker 5: complaining about their door handles being different difficult sounds like

483
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Speaker 5: a lot three point one per one hundred vehicles. But

484
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 5: that's almost well, it's three percent. That's up from two

485
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 5: tenths of a percent in twenty twenty. Was anybody unhappy

486
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 5: you reach out and you pull on the handle and

487
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 5: the door opens, right?

488
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 4: See, that's another one to me? Was anybody unhappy with

489
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 4: the door handle situation?

490
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Before? I thought it was fine?

491
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 5: So there, it's about sixteen times as many problems now

492
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 5: that they're so advanced and futuristic.

493
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: So it would appear, at least for now that we

494
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: are at the end of.

495
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 5: Fancy and computer driven and futuristic is automatically a good thing.

496
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough.

497
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 4: I don't even know myself because I am a I

498
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 4: am do lean toward the luod eyed end. But like

499
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 4: the Tesla stuff and Apple stuff, I really really like.

500
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 4: I feel like they do a really good job of

501
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: figuring out what you want in a way that you

502
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Speaker 4: want it versus a lot of other products. So there

503
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 4: is a it's not all one or the other, it's

504
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 4: all in the execution. So top of the list that

505
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: people do, like wireless phone charging pads, yeah he did.

506
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 5: And ventilated seats. Oh I'm a big fan, a little

507
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 5: bougie for me. Oh please please, hot hot summer day.

508
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 5: You got an air conditioner blown right on your heinis

509
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 5: it on earth.

510
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 4: Makes me feel like my pants are wet. And secondly,

511
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 4: it's just it's it's to your pants are wet. It's

512
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 4: too chancy. I feel like it's just setting myself up

513
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 4: for a failure. I I'd rather be hot or cold

514
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: than use that technology.

515
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Wow, please email.

516
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 5: Your theories about what's going on there. That's a mail

517
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 5: bagging armstrung and get eat one also very popular. Jack

518
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 5: waiting on this for the ludite crowd because I'm sure

519
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 5: you're representing a certain percentage of people.

520
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 4: Rain sensing wipers. Yeah, I haven't found that many that

521
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 4: work that well.

522
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, great in theory. Yeah great.

523
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: How about built in vacuum cleaners. Yeah, wait a minute,

524
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 5: that's a thing. Yeah, who's got those?

525
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 4: I don't remember where I came across that, but it's yeah,

526
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 4: it's it's internal in the car. And then you like,

527
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 4: you can just plug in the hose. It's like if

528
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: you've got the vacuum system in your house, which I've

529
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: only seen on the whole house vacuum, but yeah, you've

530
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 4: had that because I am bougie. Yeah, you just have

531
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 4: a hose you plug into verious parts of the car.

532
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: That would be pretty handy.

533
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 5: So at the bottom of the wish list are passenger

534
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 5: side screens like hmm, like screens to look at it.

535
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

536
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: I was in somebody's fancy Mercedes lift over the weekend

537
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 4: with my kids. We ended up with a fancy uber

538
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: and it had a guy was showing me the screen

539
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: on the passenger side.

540
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: It was just for the passenger. That was pretty cool.

541
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 5: Oh wow, Okay, so people are not impressed with that.

542
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 5: I've never seen one. An augmented reality visible on the windshield. Well,

543
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 5: if you want to have a head on wreck, it

544
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: sounds like a great idea.

545
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

546
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 5: And according to JD Power, drivers are underwhelmed by gesture controls,

547
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 5: where one can say, increase the volume by rotating an

548
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 5: imaginary knob in the air. You're an imaginary knob. Wow,

549
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: that sounds great in theory. Again, but I could see

550
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 5: like you try it, and you try it again and try.

551
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: It again, like the Apple Vision pro. So you're doing

552
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 4: things with your hands that its interesting.

553
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: Well, if it.

554
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: Worked, it might be fine. Again, it's the execution of

555
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: all these things. A lot of these things would be

556
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 4: great if they worked the way they said they were

557
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 4: going to work.

558
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 5: Right, And then they mentioned that with all the sensors

559
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 5: on cars now for backup camera well forward cameras too,

560
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 5: and parking sensors and whatever, a fender vendor can can

561
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 5: cost you a hell of a lot of money, which

562
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 5: has raised insurance rates as well.

563
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's ridiculous.

564
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: Speaking of Tesla is because of the aluminum body and

565
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: the sensor and stuff like that, you get a tiny dent,

566
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: You're going to spend fifteen thousand dollars on a tiny dent.

567
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 4: Elon claims because the newer Teslas have a different sensory

568
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: system than the other ones did with the cameras and

569
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: everything like that. Elon claims they're going full You don't

570
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: have to pay attention auto driving end of twenty six.

571
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: I can't believe that. I don't think the government will

572
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: allow it, will they the you don't have to pay attention.

573
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: You can sleep if you want to.

574
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: Color me skeptical. I'm pretty skeptical too.

575
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 5: Final note of the evils of technological development. Here's a

576
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 5: dude who likes to start his twenty four Toya, a

577
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 5: tound of pickup remotely. He lives in you know, high

578
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 5: elevation in Nevada, but that function doesn't reliably work with

579
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 5: his key fob, so he begrudgingly starts it through Toyota's app,

580
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 5: which charges a subscription fee. He points out, I got

581
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 5: a thousand dollars a month payment. Now I got to

582
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: pay another fifteen bucks a month just to be able

583
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 5: to start it remotely.

584
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 6: Wow.

585
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, the subscription fee thing, we've talked about that that's

586
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: a growing you know you want you want this horse

587
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: power because they can adjust it.

588
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 5: You want this horse power, you pay extra per month.

589
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 5: This upgraded stereoah, which I always get. Yeah, you gotta

590
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 5: pay a fee per month. Interesting And they mentioned finally

591
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 5: Jack and this will glad in your heart. After owning

592
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 5: the truck for a year and a half, he also

593
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 5: recently bought himself a nineteen eighty five Chivy Silverado, which

594
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 5: he can fix himself.

595
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

596
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And sometimes when you get in those, if you

597
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: ever get a chance to drive something like that, there's

598
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: something like maybe it's nostalgia, but there's just something because

599
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: it's so simple.

600
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: It's just like.

601
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: Relaxing in a certain way. So like, I know, I

602
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 4: know everything that's going on here. I don't have to

603
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: think at all. You have any thoughts on that, you

604
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: can text us. We got more in the way to

605
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: stay here.

606
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 7: Arstro he Yetie, an Australian man who was credited with

607
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 7: saving more than two million babies by repeatedly donating his blood,

608
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 7: has died.

609
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: At the age of eighty eight.

610
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 7: Doctors pronounced him dead when they heard this sound.

611
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: Wow christ Oh, that's kind of funny. Wow.

612
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 4: It's an easy transition from that to the firing squad

613
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: execution that happened in South Carolina over the weekend. We've

614
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: only executed four people in this country by firing squad

615
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: in the last half a century. We did one the

616
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: other day. He's a scumbag by the way, or he

617
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know where his brain was. Now.

618
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: He became a Christian and says he's remorseful or whatever,

619
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: but he committed horrible, horrible crimes, beating to death people

620
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: with baseball bats and whatnot. So anyway, strapped to a

621
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: chair with a target placed over his heart, and put

622
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: a hood over his head. Three Correction Department volunteers armed

623
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: with rifles fired bullets, deciding to shatter on impact. I

624
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: don't know exactly what that's all about. They stood fifteen

625
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: feet away, which, if you don't know how far that is,

626
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: is a distance from the free throw line to the backboard,

627
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: So that's how close you are. Three dudes stood there

628
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: and shot him. He was I thought this particular nugget

629
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: was before the hood was placed on his head. Blah

630
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 4: blah blah. I'll get to a statement in a minute.

631
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 4: He was wearing a black jumpsuit with crocs. Yeah, and

632
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: make it easier for me to shoot him.

633
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: Actually, wow, oh, inappropriate.

634
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: His ankles and wrists were shackled so that he couldn't

635
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: like jump around, move around whatever. And he chose they.

636
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: He chose the firing squad because he thought it was

637
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 4: the least gruesome of the other alternatives, the other alternatives

638
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: being in South Carolina eaten by dogs.

639
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: And I don't know that is incorrect. I need a

640
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: source that information.

641
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: Actually, the other choices were actually the electric chair, which

642
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: he said would cook him alive, so he didn't want that.

643
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: And they do lethal injection like most states do who

644
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: have the death penalty, and he was worried that there

645
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: would be a rush of fluid into his lugs and

646
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 4: lungs and he would drown. So he sounds like a

647
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: bit of a whack job in addition to being a

648
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: murderous scumbag. His final statement was to be one of

649
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: love and calling to my fellow Christians to help us

650
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 4: end the death penalty. And I for an I was

651
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: used as justification to the jury for seeking the death penalty.

652
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: He said in a statement at that time, I was

653
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 4: too ignorant to know how wrong that was. Why because

654
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: we no longer live under the Old Testament law, but

655
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: now live under the New test So.

656
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting. Two perspectives on that. Number one.

657
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 5: I was reading Theologian the other day talking about how

658
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: the whole eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth

659
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 5: thing is not a cry for vengeance.

660
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: It's a cry for proportionality.

661
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 5: What they're saying is if somebody does something offensive, to

662
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 5: you don't kill them in their family. Keep it proportional,

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Speaker 5: otherwise it escalates and gets incredibly ugly. Second thing is

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Speaker 5: I was reminded that Thomas jes Edison rather allegedly invented

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Speaker 5: the electric chair to prove that alternating current AC power

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Speaker 5: was unsafe because it could kill a person, and DC

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Speaker 5: his preferred method of electrifying things was much safer and better.

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Speaker 4: H So a number of states have turned to the

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Speaker 4: firing squad. I guess if they ever start executing people again.

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Speaker 4: There is some belief that it is incredibly painless. You

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Speaker 4: will instantly die and feel milky you whatsoever? No, no

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Speaker 4: sudden shock. But was it super bloody?

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Speaker 2: Did they mention or anything? They did not? It's almost

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Speaker 2: got to be, doesn't it. I heard it it was.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if he was wearing some sort of special

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Speaker 5: garment so it wouldn't be too much of a cleanup.

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Speaker 2: I ain't dying in crocs. I'll tell you that you

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Speaker 2: might have your standard. I'd like to go out with

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Speaker 2: some dignity.

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Speaker 4: If you missed a segment at the podcast Armstrong and

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Speaker 4: Getty on demand

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty