Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: Podcast Welcome to You, and That's what you Really missed
Speaker 1: podcast The Tour and You Warner Kevin mom mom, tour manager,
Speaker 1: tour manager extraordinari, the person we would be lost without
Speaker 1: literally in the middle of the country somewhere.
Speaker 2: So so the person who I do not know how
Speaker 2: she did what she did.
Speaker 1: That's look I like. I like controlling things and planning
Speaker 1: and having a million things to juggle. That's the next level.
Speaker 1: That is the level.
Speaker 2: She was with us twenty four hours a day for
Speaker 2: almost seven weeks on the second tour. Forced tour was shorter,
Speaker 2: but when you're a tour manager, you don't leave. You're
Speaker 2: not off the clock. And she dealt with all of us,
Speaker 2: everyone behind the scenes. We'll get into it, but she
Speaker 2: is us the best and that's why everyone in the
Speaker 2: music industry works with her because there's nobody that does
Speaker 2: what she does to the level that she does it.
Speaker 2: So this is the world's best tour manager that we
Speaker 2: got to work with. Andie Warner, Hi, Angie, so good
Speaker 2: to see you.
Speaker 3: Hi. Children, No mom my tour babies.
Speaker 2: You have to have the most amount of babies anyone
Speaker 2: has ever had.
Speaker 3: I do have a lot of babies.
Speaker 1: It's good to see you. Good to see you too,
Speaker 1: that's nice. Where are you right now? Are you home?
Speaker 1: Are you on the road?
Speaker 3: I'm home. I live in Nashville, Tennessee. Now, my four
Speaker 3: legged fur babies right here next to me on the floor.
Speaker 3: Your childre out or also be barking, But I'm home.
Speaker 3: I'm working for Keith Urban now, so I'm in the
Speaker 3: country world.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Decided to down a little and kind of normalize my
Speaker 3: life some and it's kind of came at a good time.
Speaker 3: So you know, I love the pop and rock world.
Speaker 3: But lord man, I'm fifty four, so this has been
Speaker 3: a good shift.
Speaker 2: I'm We're both so excited to talk to you a
Speaker 2: number of reasons. Obviously just to see you, because we're
Speaker 2: obsessed with you and love you, but also because I
Speaker 2: think you have, out of anybody who's been on here
Speaker 2: thus far, I think one of like the craziest job.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if like the general public knows
Speaker 2: what goes on in like your world you're in, Like
Speaker 2: you just said, you're in the country world now, but
Speaker 2: you've worked for everyone every genre under the sun. You've
Speaker 2: won every award for tour managing because you are that good.
Speaker 2: That's why it doesn't matter what genre it is. People
Speaker 2: just want to work with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are the tour manager.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't. There's nobody else.
Speaker 3: Shoulders off people. Yeah, I am. You know, It's funny
Speaker 3: because it hasn't been until recently that I've started to
Speaker 3: really sort of really pay attention to my career, to
Speaker 3: sort of really appreciate it and understand it more instead
Speaker 3: of being in a tunnel, you know, which we do
Speaker 3: so long on the road. But you know, I've been
Speaker 3: very lucky and very blessed. And it's a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago I did a really really hard tour and
Speaker 3: after that I was like, I'm good, Like I'm good
Speaker 3: at Yeah, you know, I can do No one else
Speaker 3: could have ran that tour. I'm I'm the one the
Speaker 3: only one who could have done it. And so it
Speaker 3: really sort of just reinforced that I'm in the right
Speaker 3: field for what I was supposed to do. And you know,
Speaker 3: the career path I chose was the perfect one for me.
Speaker 1: I don't think I even knew what a tour manager
Speaker 1: did before the Glee tour like I don't. I never
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't think I understood tours. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: obviously I want to get into like our tour obviously,
Speaker 1: but I would just love to hear from you, like
Speaker 1: the highlights of which, like what does a tour manager do?
Speaker 1: What does your day to day look like? Is it
Speaker 1: different for each I'm sure it's different for each band
Speaker 1: or artist, Like, can you just give us kind of
Speaker 1: an overview of like what your job description is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, mainly a lot of times you're hired just for
Speaker 3: a tour. So jay Z I was hired for tours.
Speaker 3: I wasn't really hired with an in you know, an
Speaker 3: indefinite sort of time period. Or I was hired for
Speaker 3: BP three and then I was hired for Watch the Throne.
Speaker 3: So you're hired, you put the tour together, meaning you
Speaker 3: do budgets for hotels, logistics such as moving the artists,
Speaker 3: the crew. You deal with the venues daily. You deal
Speaker 3: with the hotels daily, You do with drivers with private planes,
Speaker 3: commercial jets, you know, commercial flights. You deal with venue people,
Speaker 3: you deal with management, you deal with the artists, you
Speaker 3: deal with the artist teams, you deal with wardrobe, you
Speaker 3: deal with everybody, and that's mainly overseeing that everybody's doing
Speaker 3: their job, because one person not doing their job means
Speaker 3: ten people get behind. You oversee the morale of the tour.
Speaker 3: You oversee making sure people are a good reflection of
Speaker 3: who the artist is, which I'm really big on these
Speaker 3: days is making sure everybody is being respectful because everybody
Speaker 3: that you encounter is working hard to make that one
Speaker 3: show work.
Speaker 1: Local.
Speaker 3: You make sure your artist has everything that they need,
Speaker 3: and that could change, you know, with you guys, it
Speaker 3: was more than one person. It's one, you know, with
Speaker 3: Post it was one. With Keith, it's one. But sometimes
Speaker 3: Dragons it was a full band, you know, so everything
Speaker 3: is every shifts and then you sort of are filling
Speaker 3: in holes where stuff isn't happening. And I'm being general
Speaker 3: because management teams are very different with every other artist.
Speaker 3: So you feel in like, well, who's doing ticketing? I
Speaker 3: don't know, Okay, I guess I'm doing it. So you
Speaker 3: kind of just pick up all those pieces.
Speaker 1: Wow. Do you hire on people on your team or people?
Speaker 1: Do they have people in place? Does that also differ
Speaker 1: based on the artist?
Speaker 3: Things different? Yeah. I don't usually have an assistant I
Speaker 3: do when the tours are bigger, or I'll hire somebody
Speaker 3: if I'm dealing with an artist and they decide they're
Speaker 3: going to bring out a band, so then I'll hire
Speaker 3: somebody to oversee the band, or and do ticketing, kind
Speaker 3: of put some of the work on them. Or I'm
Speaker 3: kind of a control freak in the sense that I
Speaker 3: like to know everything that's going on, so I like
Speaker 3: to be responsible for it because I'm the one to
Speaker 3: answer for it to management. So it's just I don't
Speaker 3: mind that being overworked. It's because then I know all
Speaker 3: the answers.
Speaker 1: So right, so you're in the loop, You're you're kept
Speaker 1: in the know for everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why did this happen?
Speaker 2: I'll right, yeah, right, how did you get into this
Speaker 2: from the start?
Speaker 3: So I long story short, I was working locally in
Speaker 3: Charlotte as a booking agent. So I used to book
Speaker 3: bands on side stages at the Amphitheater, so you guys
Speaker 3: have the outdoor sheds. And one day somebody says, do
Speaker 3: you want to come work backstage? I need some help,
Speaker 3: and I was like, sure, I'll come do it. Well,
Speaker 3: it was called the Further Festival, so it was ziggy
Speaker 3: Marley Bob Weir. It was kind of hippie band.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: I was backstage watching all these artists walk by, and
Speaker 3: I was like, this is really cool. So I shut
Speaker 3: my agency down and became a runner, which is the
Speaker 3: peoe of a venue, you know, twenty hour days. I
Speaker 3: made one hundred and twenty five bucks a day before taxes,
Speaker 3: So I was broke all the time, but I have job.
Speaker 3: And then a few years later somebody said do you
Speaker 3: want to go out on tour? And I went, sure,
Speaker 3: what tour? And they're like in sync and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, it no strings attached. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I want to get stadium tour ever.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. That was my third concert ever really
Speaker 2: been That concert changed my life, yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, changed my career, changed my path wow. Yeah. And
Speaker 3: it was probably the most fun because it was a
Speaker 3: first one and the boys are so much fun. And
Speaker 3: I'm still close with a lot of that team as
Speaker 3: well as Chris, Joey and Lance, so I still see
Speaker 3: them a lot. Yeah. Wow, a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And were you on tour? Like have you been on
Speaker 1: tour most of your life? Now?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to be fifty four tomorrow, so no,
Speaker 3: I've only worked I feel like it. I started when
Speaker 3: I was thirty, that was my first.
Speaker 2: Tour, wow.
Speaker 3: But I've been in the business since I was twenty,
Speaker 3: So I've always around bands with bands for bands, you know,
Speaker 3: firing because back in the day, we didn't have social media,
Speaker 3: so you actually sent postcards out and walked around clubs
Speaker 3: and put flyers on, you know, the windshields of cars.
Speaker 3: So I did that because I grew up in Jersey,
Speaker 3: So I was in Naspberry Park a lot, hanging out
Speaker 3: with flyers and then I'd get like a free guestless
Speaker 3: spot watch the show Crazy Wow.
Speaker 2: So from no shings attached, then it's just like you
Speaker 2: if anyone who knows you obviously why you've had such
Speaker 2: like an incredible career, you're like the nicest, most competent
Speaker 2: and like even keeled person, which I feel like you
Speaker 2: have to, like you have to be that way otherwise
Speaker 2: who knows. But I imagine you do no shings attached
Speaker 2: and you meet a bunch of people who probably do
Speaker 2: tours regularly and like, oh, Angie's great, we need to
Speaker 2: hire her for this next thing we're doing.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's how it works. So I had met so
Speaker 3: many people as a runner because you're the local, so
Speaker 3: all these tours are coming through. Once I toured, then
Speaker 3: I got a call for Dave Matthews to go out
Speaker 3: doing max coordinator a job for that, and then from
Speaker 3: there I got asked to Britney and then Britney Spears
Speaker 3: to Madonna because I happened to be at a table
Speaker 3: when somebody got a phone call that they were looking
Speaker 3: for somebody. But this was all the great production coordinator work,
Speaker 3: so you know, just you know, kind of moving up
Speaker 3: the chain basically, so then you know, that's how it went.
Speaker 3: I just went from tour to tour to tour.
Speaker 2: And with each tour sort of gaining new responsibilities, working
Speaker 2: your way up.
Speaker 3: Abilities new team, being around new people, learning as much
Speaker 3: as I could.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was so active. I was on my feet all
Speaker 3: the time, which I loved, you know, getting to know
Speaker 3: the locals, especially in the local promoters. So I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm older now, I forget a lot, but I knew everybody.
Speaker 3: So it was good for me to kind of go, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm looking for work in six months, and so I
Speaker 3: did job after job after job.
Speaker 1: And what was your first tour manager position? Which tour
Speaker 1: dancing with the stars. WHOA, that's a lot of people.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Did you have it by that point? Did you have
Speaker 1: it like in your back pocket at that point as
Speaker 1: tour manager or was that like chaotic for you to
Speaker 1: be the tour manager?
Speaker 3: It was it was chaotic. They it was this second
Speaker 3: tour and they weren't going to hire the person back.
Speaker 3: So I Harry Sandler at the time, who worked for
Speaker 3: azof Head, said I was like, I should do it.
Speaker 3: You should let me do it. He goes, I think
Speaker 3: you're too nice, And I said, I think that's what
Speaker 3: this tour needs. Okay, I'll give you a shot. And
Speaker 3: then at the end he said, Yep, that's exactly what
Speaker 3: it needed. Because like for Glee, you have ballroom dancers
Speaker 3: are your stars, plus you have five celebrities at the
Speaker 3: time and you're teaching like we had Joey and Lance
Speaker 3: ferm and sinc we had Drew Lache, Marley Mattlin, but
Speaker 3: we had, you know, an Olympic runner. We had all
Speaker 3: of these people who had never toured and at the
Speaker 3: same time with Glee, I'm going I'm going to teach
Speaker 3: you what it's like to do a rock tour, this
Speaker 3: is how, this is what you need to do. But
Speaker 3: I was good at talking to all of the different
Speaker 3: artists and celebrities in different ways to make them all
Speaker 3: understand in the way that they needed to hear it.
Speaker 3: And I think it became my strong point and people
Speaker 3: just grew to like me. But then when I needed
Speaker 3: to part, not harsh, but I had to be stern,
Speaker 3: they listened, came in and you were rude the whole time.
Speaker 3: They're just gonna like brush you off. But I feel
Speaker 3: like I got the balance, and that's the Jersey side
Speaker 3: of me and the Southern side working in harmony.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, in hindsight of looking back at the
Speaker 2: Glee tour, I don't think and like Jenna said, we
Speaker 2: didn't necessarily even realize what and I had done smaller
Speaker 2: tours before Preglee, but nothing of the scale that we did.
Speaker 2: But I think a testament to your ability is you
Speaker 2: don't even necessarily know everything you're doing because there is
Speaker 2: never any drama. It's always easy. You always seem calm
Speaker 2: and everything just runs smoothly. And if there is, if
Speaker 2: we have questions, we have concerns, we can get into it.
Speaker 2: The days that we were not all, well, you step up,
Speaker 2: you show up, and you're like, how can we fix this?
Speaker 2: And I think in hindsight, if someone was not of
Speaker 2: the ability in caliber that you are, that we would
Speaker 2: have felt that yeah, in every capacity, because you've just
Speaker 2: explained there's nothing you don't necessarily have your fingers in
Speaker 2: because you've got to make sure everybody's working harmoniously hear everything.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, well, that's the maternal side. I
Speaker 3: think that's why I believe that females make great tour managers.
Speaker 3: There's this maternal side that keeps your ear to the
Speaker 3: ground so you hear everything, even though it's not said
Speaker 3: to you. You hear everything, you know, So I knew
Speaker 3: I had my finger on the pulse with everybody's bitches
Speaker 3: and complaints or we're not feeling well, like I knew.
Speaker 3: It's not that I had people telling me. I just knew,
Speaker 3: and that was that maternal side being fulfilled for me.
Speaker 3: But also, like, what made it good for me to
Speaker 3: be in that role with you guys or with Dancing
Speaker 3: with the Stars is because I kind of just read
Speaker 3: energy a lot better than people and kind of was
Speaker 3: around and you guys trusted me and that's that was huge.
Speaker 1: And that's really big. Yeah, and you have to do
Speaker 1: that really quickly. You have to like gain trust really quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm not something that I'm not sure that's something
Speaker 1: you can teach a tour manager or anybody in a
Speaker 1: leadership role. That's something that's kind of either Nate Nate.
Speaker 3: That's what the road is like. You either have it
Speaker 3: either a lot better you don't. If you don't love it,
Speaker 3: then don't be on the road because you're going to
Speaker 3: make somebody.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean you have to love it. The
Speaker 2: amount of yeah hours, I mean it's never ending. You're
Speaker 2: on call, You'll be you could be on tour for
Speaker 2: a full year and you're always on call. Like I
Speaker 2: don't know how I've I've had friends who have hit
Speaker 2: you up in other countries for tickets and things and
Speaker 2: like how is she still on tour? How is she?
Speaker 2: But you have to love to love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's a twenty four to seven kig. It's
Speaker 3: not a day off, it's a non show day and
Speaker 3: that's just the role you sign up for. So I
Speaker 3: mean to do lighting and only work on show days
Speaker 3: and have like a real day off, But I would,
Speaker 3: I would, I would be so yeah. With the trust side,
Speaker 3: it also meant that when you guys came into my office,
Speaker 3: I stop what I'm doing. There's a reason you're there.
Speaker 3: You know that you need something or you want to
Speaker 3: talk or something.
Speaker 2: A couple of those times I do remember, like walking
Speaker 2: into your office just to like hang, and then that's
Speaker 2: when I would realize how busy you actually were, because
Speaker 2: I could see it on your face. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's really Oh I should go. Oh, she's doing a
Speaker 2: good job.
Speaker 1: But everyone loves to hang. She has the Glee sign.
Speaker 1: It's called the Principal's office, which was your office because
Speaker 1: you were the principal on our tour.
Speaker 2: Called the Shots Like we just wanted to be around
Speaker 2: you like that you saved it, like you were running.
Speaker 2: You're basically like president. It's like, yeah, it's like a
Speaker 2: micro presidency because you were in control of everything, and
Speaker 2: we would just like want to come kick it, like, oh,
Speaker 2: never mind, she's running this whole ship. We have to Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was there as a representative for a's off manner,
Speaker 3: like Jared Paul who was working rays Off at the time,
Speaker 3: so if he wasn't around, everything was going through me.
Speaker 3: Plus a look at the Paramount people were around as well,
Speaker 3: and the show, you know, producers, Ryan would come out
Speaker 3: and Dante and everyone, so all of that stuff also
Speaker 3: came through me too, So it was it was a contor,
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, I remember minded to your travel with men,
Speaker 3: Like with Paramount, I had to use the Paramount agent
Speaker 3: and it was like, not like, hey, can you book
Speaker 3: Kevin on this flight? It was okay, here's the email. Okay,
Speaker 3: here's the approval, Okay, here's this. It was like five
Speaker 3: or six different chiets of paper that had to get
Speaker 3: signed for like one flight. I would be like, oh gosh, wow,
Speaker 3: but we did it.
Speaker 1: We did it. I want to know how Glee came
Speaker 1: to you, and I want to know about how Glee
Speaker 1: differed from other tours you had been on previously, or
Speaker 1: how it sounds like Dancing with the Stars set you
Speaker 1: up for us. But I'm just curious to hear your
Speaker 1: experience Dancing with.
Speaker 3: The Stars did because Jared was involved, because that all
Speaker 3: also went through A's off at the time, and so
Speaker 3: Jared knew me from that and said, would you have
Speaker 3: any interest in doing this Glee tour? And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: what's Glee? And it was, you know, so new and
Speaker 3: you're on the road. You don't watch television often. I
Speaker 3: was more of a reader, and then I start watching.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is going to be fun
Speaker 3: because it was so popular, and you know, I thought
Speaker 3: it was great because I love the singing and the
Speaker 3: dancing part of it all. And I was like, great,
Speaker 3: that'll be fun, and it was like it was kind
Speaker 3: of it's always hard when you're dealing with the network
Speaker 3: as well, because everyone has this different idea of how
Speaker 3: stuff is structured. But once you get it into a
Speaker 3: venue and then you're basically like, this can't work, this
Speaker 3: can't work, this can't work, and then they really listen.
Speaker 3: Then you're like, great, let's put this on the road.
Speaker 3: And I thought it was a blast because you guys
Speaker 3: were so fresh for that first tour that everyone statement
Speaker 3: was there, you know, and it just it was a
Speaker 3: theater size so it was manageable.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's so much fun.
Speaker 3: I mean I remember coming out in Chicago to remember
Speaker 3: the fans that lined the party and everything. I used
Speaker 3: to go around and sign and take photos. I remember
Speaker 3: Corey specifically doing it, and then all all the time
Speaker 3: I just thought that was fantastic. You know, no one
Speaker 3: had cell phones. I mean, if they did, they didn't
Speaker 3: have cameras on them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, it was such an engaging process. The way to
Speaker 3: connect with the fans. I thought that was. You know,
Speaker 3: I got emotional when you guys would perform, and that's
Speaker 3: when I knew, like I loved it because you guys
Speaker 3: started and your excitement is part of the excitement you
Speaker 3: guys have, and I just you know, never needed to
Speaker 3: be on stage. I just had to be part of it.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 1: So interesting.
Speaker 2: We talked about like Corey always, especially that first tour
Speaker 2: in that hotel in Phoenix, once fans found out where
Speaker 2: we were staying, he would be in that lobby for hours,
Speaker 2: just signing things, and it would be either Angie usually
Speaker 2: Angie or Telly or Megan who would have to like
Speaker 2: go get him because he would never leave unless he
Speaker 2: was forced to, Like, no, we actually have to like
Speaker 2: go do a show, or we have to go to rehearsal,
Speaker 2: Like there's the work to do, and you would have to,
Speaker 2: like you would be the best person to just go
Speaker 2: do it. You're like, I got it. So you guys
Speaker 2: go get in the van. I'll go get him.
Speaker 3: And that's how Cory and I started a tradition of
Speaker 3: going and getting coffee before lobby call to kind of
Speaker 3: get him out of that lobby. And it also created
Speaker 3: and then a great relationship, you know. He he by
Speaker 3: the end of the tours was like my little brother,
Speaker 3: you know, and we continued that coffee tradition after a
Speaker 3: tour too, and we meet.
Speaker 2: Him so sweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so nice.
Speaker 2: It's interesting hearing you say that you would like watch
Speaker 2: the shows and get emotional, you know, watching it when
Speaker 2: you're doing other tours. How important is it to you
Speaker 2: if at all that you do enjoy that side of it,
Speaker 2: Like do you care if you enjoyed the music or
Speaker 2: you're connect to it anyway, or is it about this
Speaker 2: is a new challenge, this is not you know, genre
Speaker 2: and normally listen to new experience and then you learn
Speaker 2: to love it or appreciate it in different ways. Is
Speaker 2: that something you take into consideration when you're doing these tours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when I stop really feeling that, I kind
Speaker 3: of will reassess where I am in my life and
Speaker 3: where I am in my career and if it still
Speaker 3: brings me joy, and you know, after some tours. I
Speaker 3: have taken a few months off just to sort of
Speaker 3: put my foot back around and figure out like the
Speaker 3: next path. And you know when I was because I
Speaker 3: worked for postmlone for five years, I started to feel
Speaker 3: after COVID. We worked a lot through COVID, so we've
Speaker 3: were NonStop no matter what. But after I could feel
Speaker 3: myself shifting, and it was mainly like, dude, I want
Speaker 3: to have a life, you know. I want to find
Speaker 3: something that's not going to keep me away all the time,
Speaker 3: because you know, he's twenty eight and he's the biggest
Speaker 3: thing in the world and he is constantly stuff.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 3: I love the camp. I love everything about it. But
Speaker 3: I also was like, I'm not going to have somebody
Speaker 3: make this decision for me in a couple of years.
Speaker 3: I want to do it myself and prop off. Now
Speaker 3: take another job that'll bring me home. And because I
Speaker 3: started going, god, I just I don't want to I
Speaker 3: want to have something that's related to me that's not
Speaker 3: touring instead of Andrew Werena the tour manager. I wanted
Speaker 3: to start to kind of find projects to get involved
Speaker 3: in that pulled me away and have a different identity
Speaker 3: I think is what I'm trying to sink.
Speaker 2: What would some of those projects like, what does that
Speaker 2: look like?
Speaker 3: I am I love dogs now because I have a dog,
Speaker 3: but I would love to I donate all my money
Speaker 3: to the shelters in the area. So I would love
Speaker 3: to start fostering. If I could be home more and
Speaker 3: volunteering and doing all of that. That that's really my
Speaker 3: goal post.
Speaker 1: Dad and I.
Speaker 3: Talked about getting a farm and doing like a senior dog,
Speaker 3: you know, like in Montana, something that was our dream,
Speaker 3: and that's I could still do something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Beautiful Jane takes in a lot of senior dogs.
Speaker 1: I mean she takes in dogs of all ages, but
Speaker 1: she takes in some senior dogs too. It just breaks
Speaker 1: my heart. It's like the sweetest thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So at anytime, I'm like, oh, okay, give him
Speaker 3: another hundred dollars. Okay, do you know? That's that's the thing.
Speaker 3: And you know, having having Stony has literally changed my life.
Speaker 3: It's like having a kid. No, I have to go
Speaker 3: to have a dog.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, that's responsibility.
Speaker 3: You have to Yeah, and he does travel, he travels
Speaker 3: with us. He was so he's great on the road.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you have to have a
Speaker 1: dog on the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good and he's a little celebrity. I'll show
Speaker 3: you him, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you have any memories of stick out in
Speaker 1: your mind of our tour? Are particularly like our stadium tour.
Speaker 3: Of the tour itself, or what we would do on
Speaker 3: the off time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so like after we did the smaller tour? Yeah,
Speaker 2: real quick? Did you know there was going to be
Speaker 2: another tour? Like, were you told, like next summer we
Speaker 2: may do the same thing, like hope you're available?
Speaker 3: No, they I knew that they were talking about it,
Speaker 3: but I didn't know that it was a definite thing
Speaker 3: until a few months before. And then it was oh no,
Speaker 3: this isn't just a theater tour, this is an arena
Speaker 3: tour and we're going to the UK. You ended up
Speaker 3: doing twenty wait, I had to look it up to
Speaker 3: get the count. Twenty one cities, thirty one shows?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think and I think we ended
Speaker 2: up doing thirty one shows domestically. I think it ended
Speaker 2: up being forty four shows with the Yeah, yeah, the UK,
Speaker 2: I think, oh god, it's nuts. In six weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and because we were doing two shows in a day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was that was dancing with the started doing matinees.
Speaker 3: No, we weren't doing matinees, so that was just us cool.
Speaker 1: Just doing eleven a M one one pm shows. Different
Speaker 1: crowd for sure.
Speaker 3: But we set the record at the O two. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, you have the slush I have the slushy.
Speaker 3: This is probably one of the coolest awards.
Speaker 1: We never caught mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah you did say no, no.
Speaker 3: I wonder whether well they went somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody's got them.
Speaker 3: Somebody got them.
Speaker 1: That's a cool one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a good one one. I remember the
Speaker 3: Wow some chemical that was made.
Speaker 2: To it was sort of like, okay, I trained you
Speaker 2: kids on this theater tour. Now welcome to my Welcome
Speaker 2: to the big Because we would to cities and you'd
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, here's where we're going. There was a
Speaker 2: time we were in Philly and you're like, I'm taking
Speaker 2: you to this Philly cheese steak place. And we got
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at the street because the whole plane
Speaker 2: You're like, I got to take you guys. So we
Speaker 2: all coordinated. We all went and I'm looking across the
Speaker 2: street and this looks familiar. I don't know why And
Speaker 2: I go outside and I recognized this sort of like theater,
Speaker 2: not even a theater, it's like a club. And I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god. I performed there on tour
Speaker 2: with the boy band like three years ago, and here
Speaker 2: I am like with you, like a our tour manager
Speaker 2: were performing at the arena tonight, and it was this
Speaker 2: really surreal, like coincidence that you happened to bring us there.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is one of those check in
Speaker 2: moments of like, my life's gotten a little crazy.
Speaker 3: We went to on South Street. Yes, yes, it's still
Speaker 3: my favorite spot there.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that one so good.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I should bring this up. Do
Speaker 3: you remember New York City when we all went and
Speaker 3: got colonics.
Speaker 1: And a really janky It was a really questionable spot
Speaker 1: on the Lower East Side, and I really thought, should
Speaker 1: I be here in this apartment right now?
Speaker 3: Getting Jenna? You and I went together, and I remember
Speaker 3: I went back and I was like, I need coffee.
Speaker 3: And I remember in like five minutes later, going, oh,
Speaker 3: should I think I'm buzzing? Because it just went right
Speaker 3: into my bloodstream. That was so that was so funny.
Speaker 1: It was really funny. I forgot.
Speaker 2: I'm still pissitting it to go. I canceled last minute
Speaker 2: because I had to go do something and somebody else
Speaker 2: took my I hear all the stories, very suspicious for
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was suspicious.
Speaker 3: It was funny though. Yeah. So now you remember Toronto.
Speaker 3: We were staying at the Four Seasons. The hotel was closed,
Speaker 3: like they were re building the Four Seasons, another part
Speaker 3: of Toronto. So the staff just didn't give a shit.
Speaker 1: Can I corry?
Speaker 3: And they let all the fans in the lobby. So
Speaker 3: we got overrun and they were running the hallways, and
Speaker 3: I think some of you went and got rooms across
Speaker 3: the street at the Hazelton Hotels. I was I was
Speaker 3: so mad. That's when that hard side of me comes out.
Speaker 3: I was like, what the what's going on here?
Speaker 1: Yes, there was a journalist who leaked where we were staying,
Speaker 1: and when we got to the hotel, I remember all
Speaker 1: the fans were outside. But then when we got inside
Speaker 1: the hotel, they were not only in the lobby, they
Speaker 1: were scouring the floors of the hotel where the rooms are,
Speaker 1: putting notes under the doors and shouting names. And we
Speaker 1: were like, we got to get out of here. So
Speaker 1: we went across the street. There was a few of us.
Speaker 2: I think it was like did Leah get a room?
Speaker 2: And so like we all went and like had like
Speaker 2: a slumber party because we're.
Speaker 1: Like, let's just yeah, there was a few people who
Speaker 1: got rooms there and there was a pool, so at
Speaker 1: least we went and swam.
Speaker 2: It was fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun, but that was crazy.
Speaker 2: We were breaking the rules though, it was like we
Speaker 2: were sneaking it with like Mom's going to get mad.
Speaker 3: I was already mad at the hotel. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think that was the last time with the last year
Speaker 3: that it was open. I mean, the New Force is
Speaker 3: beautiful in Toronto. I go there all the time, but
Speaker 3: I just remember that I was like, well they should
Speaker 3: be you know, yeah a lot.
Speaker 2: Yep. There were also times so like there was a
Speaker 2: passport issue with Diana getting in and out of Canada.
Speaker 3: She had her passport.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was something that like, yeah, she forgot to bring it.
Speaker 3: Got to bring it somehow. I don't remember how we
Speaker 3: got her in. Maybe it took a day.
Speaker 1: She got stuck, didn't she get.
Speaker 3: Stuck coming after? Somebody had to FedEx a tour I think,
Speaker 3: And that's right. We had to come in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, because I and I was Heather
Speaker 2: and I went two days early because we went on
Speaker 2: the dancer bus.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: Because some of you guys hung out in New York.
Speaker 2: We went straight to Toronto and had a full time
Speaker 2: to the city.
Speaker 1: I I some of.
Speaker 3: The best times were the parties that we had. So
Speaker 3: we had a party in New York City at the end, which,
Speaker 3: first off, Radio City Music Hall was still some memorile.
Speaker 3: Remember we got up, they sat on the roof and
Speaker 3: all the fans are all.
Speaker 1: The three Yes, that's that was kind of cool.
Speaker 3: At that time. Gibson Amphitheater was cool. But yeah, but
Speaker 3: I still loved Radio City Music Hall because that was
Speaker 3: such a that was such a you know spot.
Speaker 2: Had you been on a tour there was that your first.
Speaker 3: Was the first time I've ever done a show there.
Speaker 1: Wow, I feel like, you know all the stadiums and
Speaker 1: arenas at this point though, relieve I know.
Speaker 3: Where all the rooms are, all the dead bodies are buried, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, all the secrets.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and then we went to the party in
Speaker 3: Dublin when we closed down that bar.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was the best, and I.
Speaker 3: Had amber drinking Amber and I were drinking the baby
Speaker 3: Guinness shots.
Speaker 2: Yes I have the glass still.
Speaker 3: I stole one of them.
Speaker 2: I should have done that too. I remember you showed
Speaker 2: I didn't know that existed, and you showed me like
Speaker 2: the little little baby pints, a little baby.
Speaker 3: Ambria or whatever that is similar to and Bailey's on top.
Speaker 3: They were so good. And Megan and I went out
Speaker 3: with Naya drinking down to like a bar and it
Speaker 3: was fun.
Speaker 2: Fun getting we were all seeing each other pictures. I
Speaker 2: feel like we all factioned off. Yes, and then because
Speaker 2: we had we had a day or two free and
Speaker 2: Dublin we first got we got in.
Speaker 1: Yes, we ran into a bunch of the dancers on
Speaker 1: Temple Street, but we went and they had like the
Speaker 1: at the tables, which was like mind blowing where you
Speaker 1: could like y pour your own pint.
Speaker 2: It's like everybody emotionally left themselves in London, and so
Speaker 2: the time we got to Dublin, everyone had like shed
Speaker 2: all of that what was happening, and so we were just.
Speaker 1: Like near the end is near, let's go.
Speaker 3: We all drank yeah, because it lended up at the
Speaker 3: same bar and then split up and I think met
Speaker 3: up later.
Speaker 2: Yes, at the schoolhouse bar.
Speaker 1: Yes, so much fun.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And then the party at the O
Speaker 3: two that we had because I have some oh yeah,
Speaker 3: any pictures because we all had like dance offs that night.
Speaker 1: Yep, I don't remember where that one was. It was pictures.
Speaker 3: I would actually in the venue there was like a.
Speaker 2: Bar slash like club looking room.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Jacko memory a little bit, but yeah, okay
Speaker 1: something how fun?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that. You were saying that the
Speaker 2: challenges of you have to go through like paramount travel,
Speaker 2: you're dealing with the network, probably the studio, the executives
Speaker 2: coming in and out for different shows. Then we got
Speaker 2: to London. There was also like additional press we were
Speaker 2: doing for Was it the movie? Is that what we
Speaker 2: were doing press like we were or was it just
Speaker 2: for the tour? I don't know what we were doing
Speaker 2: press for.
Speaker 3: Probably for the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that was a whole other thing. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: how do you even manage because it takes so long
Speaker 2: in London the arena everybody performs out as the O two,
Speaker 2: but there's so much traffic and you've just been You've
Speaker 2: seen pictures of like Rihanna taking the tube to go
Speaker 2: to O two because it's just wild. It's like one
Speaker 2: day when we did press with the hotel we were
Speaker 2: staying at was on the river and so a boat
Speaker 2: could pull up and that it was absolute most time.
Speaker 1: Didn't we do our Vogue September issue in London as well?
Speaker 2: In Manchester?
Speaker 1: Is in Manchester? Okay? Sorry?
Speaker 3: So in London we stayed at the Savoy and they
Speaker 3: have a boat, but it's like a block away from
Speaker 3: the boat landing and the boat right to the venue.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Nice, it's the best. It's the best and only way
Speaker 3: you send an artist, you know that just.
Speaker 2: Decide, Like, is that you figuring that out?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we figured that out, and then it's just
Speaker 3: whether or not the weather is good enough for for
Speaker 3: you guys to do it or for whoever to do it.
Speaker 3: We did it with them. Did we do it with BTS?
Speaker 3: I can't remember. I feel like we did.
Speaker 2: You did BTS as well?
Speaker 3: I did BTS. I still I still do some of
Speaker 3: the K pop stuff with their sideks. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 3: go out on all of them, but I'll put the
Speaker 3: team together and advance it. That's besides like the Glee
Speaker 3: and the pop stuff. That I've done. That's probably one
Speaker 3: of my favorites.
Speaker 2: Amazing, that's great to hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. It's so much fun in London. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably too much fun.
Speaker 2: I mean, so how do you deal with the different
Speaker 2: personalities because there's a lot of us, Like you were saying,
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just a singer and then you come into
Speaker 2: us and by the second tour we're all more comfortable.
Speaker 2: We're more comfortable probably being honest, it's more of us.
Speaker 2: There are more of us, more, there's more of everything, right,
Speaker 2: Like the stakes are higher, the venues are higher, the
Speaker 2: fame is higher, which has some sort of psychological impact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone feels that they need more than the other person,
Speaker 3: or deserve more attention than the other person. You just
Speaker 3: I mean, is there a right way to handle all
Speaker 3: of that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I mean yes, case basically situation by situation, you know,
Speaker 3: you do you just kind of deal with the moment.
Speaker 3: You learn to say no, You learn to like look
Speaker 3: at somebody in the eye and make kind of go
Speaker 3: that's not doable, you know, that's that's not feasible. It's
Speaker 3: not feasible to send you home in between shows because
Speaker 3: of the traffic, London, right, stuff like that, and then
Speaker 3: you always have the but you just you just I
Speaker 3: don't know, you just learn. You just you kind of
Speaker 3: learn what to say and how to say it to
Speaker 3: make the person the other person kind of stop because
Speaker 3: you can't appease everybody. We're not there to try to
Speaker 3: appease everybody or try to there to make everybody happy
Speaker 3: and good, but we're also there to do a show.
Speaker 3: So keeping everybody on that work balance as well as
Speaker 3: the friendship balance because we all became friends at the
Speaker 3: same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're.
Speaker 3: Also here because hey, you need to get into glam.
Speaker 3: You need to be doing this and keeping.
Speaker 1: Up that's our job. Do your job? Do you often
Speaker 1: become friends with the artists and the people like it,
Speaker 1: because it felt like pretty quickly like we were all
Speaker 1: going to do yoga together, going to get cheesesteaks sandwiches together,
Speaker 1: and like you're kind of showing us the ropes. Does
Speaker 1: that happen all the time on your tours?
Speaker 3: No, not all of them. I become close with the artists,
Speaker 3: but I don't always hang out with them. I never
Speaker 3: really hung out with Post, but he's family for life,
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, Guns and roses guys, I've worked with
Speaker 3: a bunch of times over the years, so I consider
Speaker 3: you know, Duff and Slash our brothers. You know, I
Speaker 3: don't get to hang out with them, or you know,
Speaker 3: we would just go have dinner. It all depends on,
Speaker 3: you know, with vibe of like yeah, and I just
Speaker 3: felt with you guys, I could show you experiences in
Speaker 3: different cities and we could you know, do them together.
Speaker 3: And when you find somebody that likes to go to yoga,
Speaker 3: let's go, because that's going to be one thing that's
Speaker 3: going to help us balance our days. Huge for me,
Speaker 3: like salsa dancing, Okay, yes, yeah, so I always love
Speaker 3: to go salsa dancing, so I usually bond with dancers
Speaker 3: that would like to go do it. Do you remember
Speaker 3: Todd Fox, who you guys hot Toddy. He was a
Speaker 3: good salsa dancer and when we were in Toronto, we
Speaker 3: all went to this club that was right by the
Speaker 3: hotels and I'm like, you have to come and because
Speaker 3: of the issues with the fans, he was dealing with
Speaker 3: all of that. But turn around and he comes running
Speaker 3: and he grabbed me, does one song and he's like, okay,
Speaker 3: I gotta go buy it. He runs back to the hotel.
Speaker 1: I was like, no way, yeah, saddy.
Speaker 2: Wow, because he was the one that was sneaking us
Speaker 2: out and like going to the other hotel because he's like,
Speaker 2: I know a hotel to go to. It's where Janet stays.
Speaker 2: So we like hopped in the car and go across
Speaker 2: the street.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my gosh, wow.
Speaker 2: I can't believe he's a salsa dancer.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if he does it like all
Speaker 3: the time, but he was.
Speaker 1: He's a som he's a salsa dancer. You gotta like
Speaker 1: entertain yourself somewhere creatively.
Speaker 2: The memories are funny. I remember I think, I remember
Speaker 2: when you guys went out salsa dancing, and I think
Speaker 2: Telly and Megan were with you, and I was texting
Speaker 2: Telly and that's when I learned about like how to
Speaker 2: drink Martinez, because he was texting me what he was drinking.
Speaker 2: And then I think I came in after. Sorry, this
Speaker 2: is not even a good story. I just it's all
Speaker 2: flooding back. Now I'm tasting like jin Martini for the
Speaker 2: first time. It's like, this is disgusting. He's like, don't worry.
Speaker 2: By THENTO of the tour, will get you on it and.
Speaker 3: Her celebrated call first twenty first birthday on tour and
Speaker 3: I have photo strips of that. I will never share photos.
Speaker 3: It was so much fun.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Were you there when bon Jovi was also staying at.
Speaker 3: The Savoy Hotel Savoy we.
Speaker 2: All hung out in that beautiful bar. Yeah, because I
Speaker 2: feel like you either knew them or somebody's working on
Speaker 2: their tour. No.
Speaker 3: My my great school friend is married to David Bryan,
Speaker 3: who's the keyboard player. And I remember we pulled you
Speaker 3: out in the hallway Kevin and you got a photo
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 1: Yes, yea.
Speaker 2: Also you pulled me out to meet Maxwell. Do you
Speaker 2: remember that bar?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Maxwell was in LA during rehearsal.
Speaker 3: Oh, during rehearsals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. Oh my, you pulled Amber and I
Speaker 2: out because we're like, oh my god, Maxwell's rehearsing, and
Speaker 2: then you're like, come with me. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no. You also did that the first tour
Speaker 2: with was it Smashing Pumpkins? Do you remember that? Were
Speaker 2: you there?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 2: Because I think you walked us. I think you walked
Speaker 2: us into that room. They're rehearsing again at the same
Speaker 2: place we were, and then told somebody for us to
Speaker 2: come over and like listen to them do a song.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's center stage, weren't we a yeah, yeah, maybe
Speaker 3: could be.
Speaker 2: You were the curator of the best adventures that you're
Speaker 2: attached to all, even if you are, like even if
Speaker 2: it wasn't you who pulled us into the room and
Speaker 2: my memory, you're attached to it, it was me.
Speaker 3: Thanks, well, I was the one responsible for us going
Speaker 3: to that London show of Beyonce. Remember Beyonce?
Speaker 2: Wait, you got us into that?
Speaker 3: Oh I just thought you would want me to have the.
Speaker 2: I would have believed it.
Speaker 3: I don't remember how we got all we all got
Speaker 3: in there, but we all went to go see Beyonce.
Speaker 2: Because we had the same label. I think it was
Speaker 2: because we had.
Speaker 1: The same team, that's right.
Speaker 2: But also getting us in and out of there what
Speaker 2: a nightmare.
Speaker 1: Yes, everything was a nightmare in London, getting in and
Speaker 1: out everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's so great, Like we had you know,
Speaker 2: different family members come to different things, and you just
Speaker 2: is not go unnoticed how easy you made all of
Speaker 2: that because there was already a billion of us to
Speaker 2: keep track of and then like hey I have four yeah,
Speaker 2: Like can you you know in two months when we
Speaker 2: get to this spot, can you make sure or do
Speaker 2: you Like when we were packing, we packed a suitcase
Speaker 2: for North America and then we had another suitcase that
Speaker 2: we wouldn't really get into until we got to Europe,
Speaker 2: and like coordinating those things. I remember being like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I need to get something out of the
Speaker 2: Europe bag. Can you somehow all those little things.
Speaker 3: I also think I sent out an email like hey,
Speaker 3: don't pack this, pack this, don't pack this, think about
Speaker 3: this package the shirts. Take one out before leave space
Speaker 3: because you're all going to.
Speaker 1: Go shopping and shopping, Yeah, which we did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one thing I still after twenty four years,
Speaker 3: still overpack. You know, I had two shows. I still
Speaker 3: had a full suitcase. You'll never ever look at me
Speaker 3: and go look at chill and brought a carry on,
Speaker 3: not even for one. It's not going to happen. What if?
Speaker 1: But what if?
Speaker 3: But what if?
Speaker 1: I know exactly, but how.
Speaker 2: Many times have you been caught out? Like how many
Speaker 2: times have you gotten to the end of a tour
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden or has this happened
Speaker 2: to you where somebody called me like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: we need you as soon as you're done, can you
Speaker 2: hop on this other tour without going home first? Did
Speaker 2: that ever happened to you?
Speaker 3: I did it. I went from Glee and I think
Speaker 3: I went home for twelve hours to switch my bag out,
Speaker 3: and then that's when I went started Lady Gaga.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh that's right, that's right, because then I saw
Speaker 2: you like a couple weeks after in Australia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you came to yeah the promo shows.
Speaker 2: Yes, you got me and Marco into one of the
Speaker 2: coolest Gaga performances I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: It was amazing.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I was like, let me tell you,
Speaker 2: I have the hookup of the year.
Speaker 3: Mama.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mama is getting into this exclusive Lady Gaga show
Speaker 2: and this amazing venue.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Oh That's why I think it's crazy
Speaker 3: because the music you guys did on the show. You
Speaker 3: did jay Z song, you did Imagine Dragons on this
Speaker 3: I mean you play you performed songs from so many
Speaker 3: artists that I worked for that I actually that is like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just this kind of aw full
Speaker 3: circle moment. And then when I got hired for Dragons
Speaker 3: in twenty thirteen. The only song I knew was the
Speaker 3: song from them do Began.
Speaker 1: Is you know the Restaurant?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was like, oh wait, they that on Glee, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I had never heard it. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know who they are.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And one of the I'm telling moments I love.
Speaker 3: I had this photo when you were doing New York
Speaker 3: State of Mind. There's a photo that with somebody took
Speaker 3: that's a professional photo and it's all the fans wearing
Speaker 3: the Warbler jackets and ties throwing diamonds.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: You and I used to do that all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I love it because kids aren't holding phones up,
Speaker 3: so it was like one of those last years before
Speaker 3: phone came out with pictures, before everybody had their cameras up,
Speaker 3: and all the girls have their you know, the diamonds
Speaker 3: up and they've got their Warbler ties on.
Speaker 2: I love that because I started doing that and I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if I can like steal
Speaker 2: this from Jazon whatever, And I didn't know if like
Speaker 2: any of the audience was going to know what it was.
Speaker 2: And then I remember you coming up to me after
Speaker 2: one of those shows be like that was so cool.
Speaker 2: All these little kids doing like the rock and I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's wild, isn't it great? SOB, I have no idea
Speaker 2: what it is. That's like I would geek out, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure we all did with you because you'd worked
Speaker 2: with everyone. When you would tell some of those stories
Speaker 2: like wash The Throne was one of my favorite shows
Speaker 2: I've ever been to. I went twice in LA.
Speaker 3: And one of the best shows I've done.
Speaker 1: That show was so.
Speaker 2: And it was Oh that show was game changing, and
Speaker 2: I just remember I would have to stop myself from
Speaker 2: asking you too many questions because I didn't want to,
Speaker 2: like be annoying, but I was just obsessed. Were texting
Speaker 2: some of my friends like she didn't watch the Throne tour,
Speaker 2: just just what this said that? And it was just
Speaker 2: unreal because you worked with all of our favorites. Did
Speaker 2: you notice a difference, because like when you were Normally
Speaker 2: people you work with are going on tour of their own,
Speaker 2: like choosing, it's their career, They're going out there to
Speaker 2: promote their music. We were in a very different position.
Speaker 2: We were contracted. We were actors who were going on
Speaker 2: to promote a show that we were on, but did
Speaker 2: not create it's a very different dynamic. Did you notice
Speaker 2: any difference, Like, for example, by the time we got
Speaker 2: to London and half of us lost our minds because
Speaker 2: I just want to go home, I'm like out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Like does that happen. I'm sure burnout happens in every tour,
Speaker 2: but if the artist is choosing to do it. And
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I love tour, but just coming
Speaker 2: into it from very different sides of it, did you
Speaker 2: notice a difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, because when you have the contracted artists
Speaker 3: that have to tour, they're not giving me the breaks
Speaker 3: you need. You're going right from filming right into I
Speaker 3: think you guys were doing what is the thing in
Speaker 3: New York the upfronts into rehearsals right into tour, so
Speaker 3: you're not even given time to catch your breath after
Speaker 3: doing how many episodes of the show you had, singing
Speaker 3: every single day, recording all the time. So when you
Speaker 3: come into our world, even though you love tour, like
Speaker 3: there were you know, the new characters that were coming
Speaker 3: out on tour that were like green and like this
Speaker 3: is amazing, this is so much fun, and then having
Speaker 3: to play you know, once you got caught up they
Speaker 3: were also getting tired. But I saw it with everybody.
Speaker 3: Everybody had their own version of it. But you know,
Speaker 3: there are some of the characters that just came into
Speaker 3: it already tired, already like kind of against being out there,
Speaker 3: especially the second Yes, but yeah, you see it all
Speaker 3: the time, but more so with you guys, because you didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't even think you had a break in between
Speaker 3: tour number one, going right back into filming, going into
Speaker 3: the big tour that happened that year. You know, set
Speaker 3: records on that tour.
Speaker 1: It was wild top.
Speaker 3: It was the top of all the charts. I mean,
Speaker 3: we were selling, we were breaking records for merch sales
Speaker 3: and venue. So I saw it happen a lot quicker
Speaker 3: on that second tour from some but then, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 3: by the time everybody got to London, you could just
Speaker 3: see everybody start to fall apart.
Speaker 1: Yes, everybody lost their minds a little bit.
Speaker 3: But even the musicians, the other artists, they're having to
Speaker 3: tourn out to make money, so you see it, they
Speaker 3: want a tour, most of them just have to be
Speaker 3: out there because that's really the book of the money
Speaker 3: that they're making.
Speaker 1: Now, Yes, exactly, You know you.
Speaker 3: Were you're an artist, and you can say, well, I
Speaker 3: don't want to do three in a row, I want
Speaker 3: to do two in a row, day off one. So
Speaker 3: there's plenty to at least try to call the shots
Speaker 3: on how.
Speaker 2: They do it.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: We were learning that with you, Like I didn't even
Speaker 2: realize because we were just like, yeah, this is what
Speaker 2: we have to do. I remember when we got demanded Chester,
Speaker 2: and I think it was like our first two consecutive
Speaker 2: days off maybe since we had left the West Coast,
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, normally you do have like three
Speaker 2: days on, one day off or two days off and
Speaker 2: for it, and we weren't really following that normal schedule.
Speaker 2: Oh And I was like, oh.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you've got somebody looking at a schedule, put
Speaker 3: in together what could potentially be made, and then they
Speaker 3: have to get it approved by more people because you
Speaker 3: have more people involved on your side from the network paramount,
Speaker 3: everybody having to sign off on all that.
Speaker 2: And we're only contracted for a certain amount of time,
Speaker 2: so it's like two x amount of shows to be
Speaker 2: profitable in this amount of time.
Speaker 1: Yet, and so we're going to do two shows in
Speaker 1: a day, you know, which was a surprise to us
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you feel doing that? What was like
Speaker 2: showing up for matinee? Because I imagine you're used to,
Speaker 2: like normal Broadway show up later.
Speaker 3: It's like Broadway. It didn't bother me. I mean, we
Speaker 3: were there, we were we were staying for the day.
Speaker 3: It just made the load they might have loaded in
Speaker 3: the day before for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But gosh, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I'm I'm very lucky on that tour because I
Speaker 3: had Molly out as the assistant to assistant principle and
Speaker 3: then you know, she was great with the band and dancers.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Such a great crew though, didn't we team the war?
Speaker 3: Yes, the audio to everybody and then any of us
Speaker 3: got up on stage and danced with you.
Speaker 1: Yes, how much fun was that?
Speaker 2: That was also like we got permission from the parents
Speaker 2: to make Okay, you guys can get crazy this last show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we're going to be involved, because.
Speaker 1: I exactly people showed up in safety dance. People showed
Speaker 1: up and I want to hold your hand. People showed
Speaker 1: up and like me, it was so much fun.
Speaker 2: But you there was a report going back to somebody
Speaker 2: official somewhere after each show and I remember it was
Speaker 2: either you or jud or somebody's like, there's no report
Speaker 2: going back this time.
Speaker 3: No, that's not saying anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No.
Speaker 3: And there's maybe like one or two clips on YouTube.
Speaker 3: I think I looked, you know, Yeah, yes I do.
Speaker 3: I have some. I have some really cute ones from Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that was so much fun. I just and that's
Speaker 3: like even on Dancing with the Stars, I got up
Speaker 3: at one of the shows and put on one of
Speaker 3: Sheryl Burke's outfits.
Speaker 1: And amazing hot out you know, but because.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just my little fifteen seconds of Hurrah Hurrah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you have any favorite venues like or specific shows
Speaker 2: that you've gotten to tour manage that? Yeah, you always
Speaker 2: think about I've been.
Speaker 3: I mean I always think about the Glee tour. I
Speaker 3: think those, to me are the most memorable because we
Speaker 3: went through a theater tour to some of the biggest
Speaker 3: shows I've ever done with you guys, and the fact
Speaker 3: that I've stayed from and close with you guys for
Speaker 3: so long after you know, I miss Corey every day,
Speaker 3: every Naya the same, you know, because I talked for
Speaker 3: a ton and Corey was just you know, it was
Speaker 3: really special for one of them, you know, but that tour,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just look and people go, oh
Speaker 3: my god, you did Glee, Like they get really excited.
Speaker 3: Well is that like? And I'm like, oh, it was
Speaker 3: a blast because it was fun, Like we wanted to
Speaker 3: make it fun. We had fun, We had pranks on
Speaker 3: each other backstage, we were always we just had a
Speaker 3: good time. It was a good era, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like it was built out to be fun, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: take a load off, it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, we had xboxes, you know, yeah, we
Speaker 1: did at.
Speaker 3: Least yeah smart trying to do whatever we especially on
Speaker 3: those Mattine days to kind of keep us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are Monday We ask everybody on the
Speaker 1: podcast before at the end, what is the feeling that
Speaker 1: Glee leaves you with.
Speaker 3: When you look when I look at a tour and
Speaker 3: I look at the beginning and the end of it,
Speaker 3: that was That's a very proud moment for me because
Speaker 3: I'm proud of what we did in that short period
Speaker 3: of time. I'm proud of the records we said. I'm
Speaker 3: proud of working with Jared polines Off at that time
Speaker 3: and working with Paramount. I just you know, it all
Speaker 3: meshed together really well. I'm proud of who you all
Speaker 3: have become. I'm proud to say that I got to
Speaker 3: be your mom on that tour because it was such
Speaker 3: a unique moment and it never going to be recreated again.
Speaker 3: No one's ever going to be able to do that,
Speaker 3: you know, but I was very proud of it. I
Speaker 3: was very proud of that tour. I'm proud of our team. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you kids.
Speaker 2: Working out of you. Are you kidding me? The things
Speaker 2: you have done and the experiences you've been able to
Speaker 2: help make happen for millions of fans around the world,
Speaker 2: because it takes someone like you to put those shows together,
Speaker 2: and that affects the people who go on stage, that
Speaker 2: affects the morale of everyone. And you know, when you're
Speaker 2: at a show, you can feel that energy from the
Speaker 2: people on stage. And you made us better, You made
Speaker 2: the experience. Look, I know we could be a handful,
Speaker 2: and you made it as easy as possible for all
Speaker 2: of us. It made it a joy. And you know,
Speaker 2: thank god you were that was hired, because I don't
Speaker 2: know what we would have done without you.
Speaker 1: Would have a different experience.
Speaker 3: That's definitely my forte is doing tours like that. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm glad that there was nobody who could compete me
Speaker 3: with me at that time.
Speaker 2: Specialist that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: People, that's sort of thing. Well, we love you, Angie.
Speaker 1: It was so good to see you.
Speaker 3: It's so good to see you too.
Speaker 1: Joining us time.
Speaker 3: I am honored. Bye guys, Oh.
Speaker 1: Angie, it's so good to see her. It's like such
Speaker 1: a specific amount of time that we spent with her,
Speaker 1: and it was fairly short to feel so close to her,
Speaker 1: do you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean. Yeah, But it's a pattern with us, yeah,
Speaker 2: or it may be a pattern I think with the
Speaker 2: entertainment business where you have these these very intense situations
Speaker 2: and I think you experience a lot. It's like when
Speaker 2: you go travel with a friend, even if you go
Speaker 2: travel for a week, you've now made these specific memories
Speaker 2: that only the two of you can recall together. And
Speaker 2: we're doing these sort of very extraordinary things in multiple countries.
Speaker 2: And like how we were with a lot of our
Speaker 2: crew that we've had on and Telly and Megan, when
Speaker 2: we found our people, we all just like clung to
Speaker 2: each other and Angie is no exception, so it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's good people, She's taking care care of us and
Speaker 2: was really the curator of like a great time as well.
Speaker 2: It would not running the whole tour.
Speaker 1: It would not have been in the same experience without her.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, and we are just like if she worked
Speaker 2: on the TV show Bonded for Life.
Speaker 1: Bonded Forever. Yeah, that tour is a very very special,
Speaker 1: isolated time.
Speaker 2: I loved. I did not know. We keep a running
Speaker 2: total of how many almost secret and special relationships Corey
Speaker 2: had with people.
Speaker 1: Yes, every person comes on here and we learned something
Speaker 1: about how nice he was to them, how good he
Speaker 1: was taking them to lunch like Sam Marson going to
Speaker 1: coffee beats at Angie like he it wasn't show for him,
Speaker 1: like that's who he was.
Speaker 2: He really running on Beyonce hours, like there's more hours
Speaker 2: in a day for Beyonce, and Corey was the same way,
Speaker 2: and he was making time to spend with people connect. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you, Angie, we love you so much. Thanks for
Speaker 2: coming on. And I love that she still has all
Speaker 2: the Glee stuff, the principal office sign.
Speaker 1: And I love that it's like one of the more
Speaker 1: and of her like fondest tour memory. It's like she
Speaker 1: thinks about please.
Speaker 2: That means a lot. She's been on everything.
Speaker 1: Literally, she's worked with everybody. She's worked with everybody, the
Speaker 1: Watch and the Throne. Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: And I like she says, like us and BTS are
Speaker 2: up there for her. That's love.
Speaker 1: You love that?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, thanks for listening you guys. I hope you
Speaker 1: enjoyed that episode. Angie. Thank you, Angie. We love you.
Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed.
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