1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Podcast Welcome to You, and That's what you Really missed 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: podcast The Tour and You Warner Kevin mom mom, tour manager, 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: tour manager extraordinari, the person we would be lost without 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: literally in the middle of the country somewhere. 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: So so the person who I do not know how 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: she did what she did. 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: That's look I like. I like controlling things and planning 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: and having a million things to juggle. That's the next level. 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: That is the level. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: She was with us twenty four hours a day for 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: almost seven weeks on the second tour. Forced tour was shorter, 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: but when you're a tour manager, you don't leave. You're 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: not off the clock. And she dealt with all of us, 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: everyone behind the scenes. We'll get into it, but she 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: is us the best and that's why everyone in the 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: music industry works with her because there's nobody that does 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: what she does to the level that she does it. 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: So this is the world's best tour manager that we 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: got to work with. Andie Warner, Hi, Angie, so good 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: to see you. 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: Hi. Children, No mom my tour babies. 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: You have to have the most amount of babies anyone 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 2: has ever had. 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: I do have a lot of babies. 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: It's good to see you. Good to see you too, 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: that's nice. Where are you right now? Are you home? 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Are you on the road? 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 3: I'm home. I live in Nashville, Tennessee. Now, my four 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: legged fur babies right here next to me on the floor. 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: Your childre out or also be barking, But I'm home. 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm working for Keith Urban now, so I'm in the 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: country world. 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: Decided to down a little and kind of normalize my 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: life some and it's kind of came at a good time. 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: So you know, I love the pop and rock world. 39 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: But lord man, I'm fifty four, so this has been 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: a good shift. 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm We're both so excited to talk to you a 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: number of reasons. Obviously just to see you, because we're 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: obsessed with you and love you, but also because I 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: think you have, out of anybody who's been on here 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: thus far, I think one of like the craziest job. 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: And I don't know if like the general public knows 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: what goes on in like your world you're in, Like 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: you just said, you're in the country world now, but 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 2: you've worked for everyone every genre under the sun. You've 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: won every award for tour managing because you are that good. 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: That's why it doesn't matter what genre it is. People 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: just want to work with you. 53 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you are the tour manager. 54 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't. There's nobody else. 55 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: Shoulders off people. Yeah, I am. You know, It's funny 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: because it hasn't been until recently that I've started to 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: really sort of really pay attention to my career, to 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: sort of really appreciate it and understand it more instead 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 3: of being in a tunnel, you know, which we do 60 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: so long on the road. But you know, I've been 61 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: very lucky and very blessed. And it's a couple of 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: years ago I did a really really hard tour and 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 3: after that I was like, I'm good, Like I'm good 64 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: at Yeah, you know, I can do No one else 65 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: could have ran that tour. I'm I'm the one the 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: only one who could have done it. And so it 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: really sort of just reinforced that I'm in the right 68 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: field for what I was supposed to do. And you know, 69 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: the career path I chose was the perfect one for me. 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I even knew what a tour manager 71 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: did before the Glee tour like I don't. I never 72 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't think I understood tours. Yeah, and 73 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: obviously I want to get into like our tour obviously, 74 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: but I would just love to hear from you, like 75 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: the highlights of which, like what does a tour manager do? 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: What does your day to day look like? Is it 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: different for each I'm sure it's different for each band 78 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: or artist, Like, can you just give us kind of 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: an overview of like what your job description is? 80 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, mainly a lot of times you're hired just for 81 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: a tour. So jay Z I was hired for tours. 82 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: I wasn't really hired with an in you know, an 83 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: indefinite sort of time period. Or I was hired for 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: BP three and then I was hired for Watch the Throne. 85 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: So you're hired, you put the tour together, meaning you 86 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: do budgets for hotels, logistics such as moving the artists, 87 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: the crew. You deal with the venues daily. You deal 88 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: with the hotels daily, You do with drivers with private planes, 89 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: commercial jets, you know, commercial flights. You deal with venue people, 90 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: you deal with management, you deal with the artists, you 91 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 3: deal with the artist teams, you deal with wardrobe, you 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: deal with everybody, and that's mainly overseeing that everybody's doing 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: their job, because one person not doing their job means 94 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: ten people get behind. You oversee the morale of the tour. 95 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: You oversee making sure people are a good reflection of 96 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: who the artist is, which I'm really big on these 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: days is making sure everybody is being respectful because everybody 98 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: that you encounter is working hard to make that one 99 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: show work. 100 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: Local. 101 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: You make sure your artist has everything that they need, 102 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: and that could change, you know, with you guys, it 103 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: was more than one person. It's one, you know, with 104 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: Post it was one. With Keith, it's one. But sometimes 105 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: Dragons it was a full band, you know, so everything 106 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: is every shifts and then you sort of are filling 107 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 3: in holes where stuff isn't happening. And I'm being general 108 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: because management teams are very different with every other artist. 109 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: So you feel in like, well, who's doing ticketing? I 110 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: don't know, Okay, I guess I'm doing it. So you 111 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: kind of just pick up all those pieces. 112 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: Wow. Do you hire on people on your team or people? 113 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Do they have people in place? Does that also differ 114 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: based on the artist? 115 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: Things different? Yeah. I don't usually have an assistant I 116 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: do when the tours are bigger, or I'll hire somebody 117 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: if I'm dealing with an artist and they decide they're 118 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: going to bring out a band, so then I'll hire 119 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: somebody to oversee the band, or and do ticketing, kind 120 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: of put some of the work on them. Or I'm 121 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: kind of a control freak in the sense that I 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 3: like to know everything that's going on, so I like 123 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 3: to be responsible for it because I'm the one to 124 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 3: answer for it to management. So it's just I don't 125 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: mind that being overworked. It's because then I know all 126 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: the answers. 127 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: So right, so you're in the loop, You're you're kept 128 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: in the know for everything. 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, why did this happen? 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: I'll right, yeah, right, how did you get into this 131 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: from the start? 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: So I long story short, I was working locally in 133 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: Charlotte as a booking agent. So I used to book 134 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: bands on side stages at the Amphitheater, so you guys 135 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: have the outdoor sheds. And one day somebody says, do 136 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: you want to come work backstage? I need some help, 137 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: and I was like, sure, I'll come do it. Well, 138 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: it was called the Further Festival, so it was ziggy 139 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: Marley Bob Weir. It was kind of hippie band. 140 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 141 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: I was backstage watching all these artists walk by, and 142 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: I was like, this is really cool. So I shut 143 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: my agency down and became a runner, which is the 144 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: peoe of a venue, you know, twenty hour days. I 145 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: made one hundred and twenty five bucks a day before taxes, 146 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: So I was broke all the time, but I have job. 147 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: And then a few years later somebody said do you 148 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: want to go out on tour? And I went, sure, 149 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: what tour? And they're like in sync and I was like, 150 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: oh my god, it no strings attached. Oh my god, 151 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: I want to get stadium tour ever. 152 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. That was my third concert ever really 153 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: been That concert changed my life, yes. 154 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, changed my career, changed my path wow. Yeah. And 155 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: it was probably the most fun because it was a 156 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: first one and the boys are so much fun. And 157 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: I'm still close with a lot of that team as 158 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: well as Chris, Joey and Lance, so I still see 159 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: them a lot. Yeah. Wow, a lot of fun. 160 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: And were you on tour? Like have you been on 161 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: tour most of your life? Now? 162 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to be fifty four tomorrow, so no, 163 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: I've only worked I feel like it. I started when 164 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 3: I was thirty, that was my first. 165 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: Tour, wow. 166 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: But I've been in the business since I was twenty, 167 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: So I've always around bands with bands for bands, you know, 168 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: firing because back in the day, we didn't have social media, 169 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: so you actually sent postcards out and walked around clubs 170 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: and put flyers on, you know, the windshields of cars. 171 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: So I did that because I grew up in Jersey, 172 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: So I was in Naspberry Park a lot, hanging out 173 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: with flyers and then I'd get like a free guestless 174 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: spot watch the show Crazy Wow. 175 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: So from no shings attached, then it's just like you 176 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: if anyone who knows you obviously why you've had such 177 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: like an incredible career, you're like the nicest, most competent 178 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: and like even keeled person, which I feel like you 179 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: have to, like you have to be that way otherwise 180 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: who knows. But I imagine you do no shings attached 181 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: and you meet a bunch of people who probably do 182 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 2: tours regularly and like, oh, Angie's great, we need to 183 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: hire her for this next thing we're doing. 184 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: Yep, that's how it works. So I had met so 185 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: many people as a runner because you're the local, so 186 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: all these tours are coming through. Once I toured, then 187 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: I got a call for Dave Matthews to go out 188 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: doing max coordinator a job for that, and then from 189 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: there I got asked to Britney and then Britney Spears 190 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: to Madonna because I happened to be at a table 191 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: when somebody got a phone call that they were looking 192 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: for somebody. But this was all the great production coordinator work, 193 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: so you know, just you know, kind of moving up 194 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 3: the chain basically, so then you know, that's how it went. 195 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: I just went from tour to tour to tour. 196 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: And with each tour sort of gaining new responsibilities, working 197 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: your way up. 198 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: Abilities new team, being around new people, learning as much 199 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: as I could. 200 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: I was. 201 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: I was so active. I was on my feet all 202 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: the time, which I loved, you know, getting to know 203 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 3: the locals, especially in the local promoters. So I mean, 204 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: I'm older now, I forget a lot, but I knew everybody. 205 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 3: So it was good for me to kind of go, yeah, 206 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: I'm looking for work in six months, and so I 207 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: did job after job after job. 208 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: And what was your first tour manager position? Which tour 209 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: dancing with the stars. WHOA, that's a lot of people. 210 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: That's a lot of people. 211 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: Did you have it by that point? Did you have 212 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: it like in your back pocket at that point as 213 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: tour manager or was that like chaotic for you to 214 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: be the tour manager? 215 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: It was it was chaotic. They it was this second 216 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: tour and they weren't going to hire the person back. 217 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: So I Harry Sandler at the time, who worked for 218 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: azof Head, said I was like, I should do it. 219 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 3: You should let me do it. He goes, I think 220 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: you're too nice, And I said, I think that's what 221 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: this tour needs. Okay, I'll give you a shot. And 222 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: then at the end he said, Yep, that's exactly what 223 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: it needed. Because like for Glee, you have ballroom dancers 224 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: are your stars, plus you have five celebrities at the 225 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: time and you're teaching like we had Joey and Lance 226 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: ferm and sinc we had Drew Lache, Marley Mattlin, but 227 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 3: we had, you know, an Olympic runner. We had all 228 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: of these people who had never toured and at the 229 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: same time with Glee, I'm going I'm going to teach 230 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: you what it's like to do a rock tour, this 231 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: is how, this is what you need to do. But 232 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: I was good at talking to all of the different 233 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: artists and celebrities in different ways to make them all 234 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: understand in the way that they needed to hear it. 235 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: And I think it became my strong point and people 236 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 3: just grew to like me. But then when I needed 237 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: to part, not harsh, but I had to be stern, 238 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: they listened, came in and you were rude the whole time. 239 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: They're just gonna like brush you off. But I feel 240 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: like I got the balance, and that's the Jersey side 241 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 3: of me and the Southern side working in harmony. 242 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, in hindsight of looking back at the 243 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: Glee tour, I don't think and like Jenna said, we 244 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: didn't necessarily even realize what and I had done smaller 245 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: tours before Preglee, but nothing of the scale that we did. 246 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: But I think a testament to your ability is you 247 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: don't even necessarily know everything you're doing because there is 248 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: never any drama. It's always easy. You always seem calm 249 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: and everything just runs smoothly. And if there is, if 250 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: we have questions, we have concerns, we can get into it. 251 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: The days that we were not all, well, you step up, 252 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: you show up, and you're like, how can we fix this? 253 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: And I think in hindsight, if someone was not of 254 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: the ability in caliber that you are, that we would 255 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: have felt that yeah, in every capacity, because you've just 256 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: explained there's nothing you don't necessarily have your fingers in 257 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: because you've got to make sure everybody's working harmoniously hear everything. 258 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, well, that's the maternal side. I 259 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: think that's why I believe that females make great tour managers. 260 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: There's this maternal side that keeps your ear to the 261 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: ground so you hear everything, even though it's not said 262 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: to you. You hear everything, you know, So I knew 263 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: I had my finger on the pulse with everybody's bitches 264 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: and complaints or we're not feeling well, like I knew. 265 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: It's not that I had people telling me. I just knew, 266 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: and that was that maternal side being fulfilled for me. 267 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: But also, like, what made it good for me to 268 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: be in that role with you guys or with Dancing 269 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: with the Stars is because I kind of just read 270 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: energy a lot better than people and kind of was 271 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: around and you guys trusted me and that's that was huge. 272 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: And that's really big. Yeah, and you have to do 273 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: that really quickly. You have to like gain trust really quickly. Yeah, 274 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not something that I'm not sure that's something 275 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: you can teach a tour manager or anybody in a 276 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: leadership role. That's something that's kind of either Nate Nate. 277 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: That's what the road is like. You either have it 278 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: either a lot better you don't. If you don't love it, 279 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: then don't be on the road because you're going to 280 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: make somebody. 281 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean you have to love it. The 282 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: amount of yeah hours, I mean it's never ending. You're 283 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: on call, You'll be you could be on tour for 284 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: a full year and you're always on call. Like I 285 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: don't know how I've I've had friends who have hit 286 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: you up in other countries for tickets and things and 287 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: like how is she still on tour? How is she? 288 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: But you have to love to love it. 289 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's a twenty four to seven kig. It's 290 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: not a day off, it's a non show day and 291 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: that's just the role you sign up for. So I 292 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: mean to do lighting and only work on show days 293 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: and have like a real day off, But I would, 294 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: I would, I would be so yeah. With the trust side, 295 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: it also meant that when you guys came into my office, 296 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: I stop what I'm doing. There's a reason you're there. 297 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: You know that you need something or you want to 298 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: talk or something. 299 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: A couple of those times I do remember, like walking 300 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: into your office just to like hang, and then that's 301 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: when I would realize how busy you actually were, because 302 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: I could see it on your face. I'm like, oh, 303 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: she's really Oh I should go. Oh, she's doing a 304 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: good job. 305 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: But everyone loves to hang. She has the Glee sign. 306 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: It's called the Principal's office, which was your office because 307 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: you were the principal on our tour. 308 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: Called the Shots Like we just wanted to be around 309 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: you like that you saved it, like you were running. 310 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: You're basically like president. It's like, yeah, it's like a 311 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: micro presidency because you were in control of everything, and 312 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: we would just like want to come kick it, like, oh, 313 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: never mind, she's running this whole ship. We have to Yeah. 314 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: I was there as a representative for a's off manner, 315 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: like Jared Paul who was working rays Off at the time, 316 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: so if he wasn't around, everything was going through me. 317 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: Plus a look at the Paramount people were around as well, 318 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: and the show, you know, producers, Ryan would come out 319 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: and Dante and everyone, so all of that stuff also 320 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: came through me too, So it was it was a contor, 321 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, I remember minded to your travel with men, 322 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: Like with Paramount, I had to use the Paramount agent 323 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: and it was like, not like, hey, can you book 324 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: Kevin on this flight? It was okay, here's the email. Okay, 325 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: here's the approval, Okay, here's this. It was like five 326 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: or six different chiets of paper that had to get 327 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: signed for like one flight. I would be like, oh gosh, wow, 328 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: but we did it. 329 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: We did it. I want to know how Glee came 330 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: to you, and I want to know about how Glee 331 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: differed from other tours you had been on previously, or 332 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: how it sounds like Dancing with the Stars set you 333 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: up for us. But I'm just curious to hear your 334 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: experience Dancing with. 335 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: The Stars did because Jared was involved, because that all 336 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: also went through A's off at the time, and so 337 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 3: Jared knew me from that and said, would you have 338 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: any interest in doing this Glee tour? And I'm like, Okay, 339 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: what's Glee? And it was, you know, so new and 340 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 3: you're on the road. You don't watch television often. I 341 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: was more of a reader, and then I start watching. 342 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is going to be fun 343 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: because it was so popular, and you know, I thought 344 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: it was great because I love the singing and the 345 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: dancing part of it all. And I was like, great, 346 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: that'll be fun, and it was like it was kind 347 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: of it's always hard when you're dealing with the network 348 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: as well, because everyone has this different idea of how 349 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: stuff is structured. But once you get it into a 350 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: venue and then you're basically like, this can't work, this 351 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: can't work, this can't work, and then they really listen. 352 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: Then you're like, great, let's put this on the road. 353 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: And I thought it was a blast because you guys 354 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 3: were so fresh for that first tour that everyone statement 355 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 3: was there, you know, and it just it was a 356 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: theater size so it was manageable. 357 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Yes, that's so much fun. 358 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: I mean I remember coming out in Chicago to remember 359 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: the fans that lined the party and everything. I used 360 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: to go around and sign and take photos. I remember 361 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: Corey specifically doing it, and then all all the time 362 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 3: I just thought that was fantastic. You know, no one 363 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: had cell phones. I mean, if they did, they didn't 364 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 3: have cameras on them. 365 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. 366 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: No, it was such an engaging process. The way to 367 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 3: connect with the fans. I thought that was. You know, 368 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 3: I got emotional when you guys would perform, and that's 369 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 3: when I knew, like I loved it because you guys 370 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: started and your excitement is part of the excitement you 371 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: guys have, and I just you know, never needed to 372 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: be on stage. I just had to be part of it. 373 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: M hm. 374 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: So interesting. 375 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: We talked about like Corey always, especially that first tour 376 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: in that hotel in Phoenix, once fans found out where 377 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: we were staying, he would be in that lobby for hours, 378 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: just signing things, and it would be either Angie usually 379 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: Angie or Telly or Megan who would have to like 380 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: go get him because he would never leave unless he 381 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 2: was forced to, Like, no, we actually have to like 382 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: go do a show, or we have to go to rehearsal, 383 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: Like there's the work to do, and you would have to, 384 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: like you would be the best person to just go 385 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: do it. You're like, I got it. So you guys 386 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: go get in the van. I'll go get him. 387 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: And that's how Cory and I started a tradition of 388 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: going and getting coffee before lobby call to kind of 389 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: get him out of that lobby. And it also created 390 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: and then a great relationship, you know. He he by 391 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: the end of the tours was like my little brother, 392 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: you know, and we continued that coffee tradition after a 393 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: tour too, and we meet. 394 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: Him so sweet. 395 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so nice. 396 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: It's interesting hearing you say that you would like watch 397 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: the shows and get emotional, you know, watching it when 398 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: you're doing other tours. How important is it to you 399 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: if at all that you do enjoy that side of it, 400 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: Like do you care if you enjoyed the music or 401 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: you're connect to it anyway, or is it about this 402 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: is a new challenge, this is not you know, genre 403 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: and normally listen to new experience and then you learn 404 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: to love it or appreciate it in different ways. Is 405 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 2: that something you take into consideration when you're doing these tours. 406 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And when I stop really feeling that, I kind 407 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 3: of will reassess where I am in my life and 408 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: where I am in my career and if it still 409 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: brings me joy, and you know, after some tours. I 410 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: have taken a few months off just to sort of 411 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: put my foot back around and figure out like the 412 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: next path. And you know when I was because I 413 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: worked for postmlone for five years, I started to feel 414 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: after COVID. We worked a lot through COVID, so we've 415 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: were NonStop no matter what. But after I could feel 416 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: myself shifting, and it was mainly like, dude, I want 417 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: to have a life, you know. I want to find 418 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: something that's not going to keep me away all the time, 419 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 3: because you know, he's twenty eight and he's the biggest 420 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: thing in the world and he is constantly stuff. 421 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: I love. 422 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: I love the camp. I love everything about it. But 423 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: I also was like, I'm not going to have somebody 424 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: make this decision for me in a couple of years. 425 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: I want to do it myself and prop off. Now 426 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 3: take another job that'll bring me home. And because I 427 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: started going, god, I just I don't want to I 428 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: want to have something that's related to me that's not 429 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: touring instead of Andrew Werena the tour manager. I wanted 430 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 3: to start to kind of find projects to get involved 431 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: in that pulled me away and have a different identity 432 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: I think is what I'm trying to sink. 433 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: What would some of those projects like, what does that 434 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: look like? 435 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: I am I love dogs now because I have a dog, 436 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: but I would love to I donate all my money 437 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: to the shelters in the area. So I would love 438 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 3: to start fostering. If I could be home more and 439 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 3: volunteering and doing all of that. That that's really my 440 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: goal post. 441 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: Dad and I. 442 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: Talked about getting a farm and doing like a senior dog, 443 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: you know, like in Montana, something that was our dream, 444 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: and that's I could still do something. 445 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Beautiful Jane takes in a lot of senior dogs. 446 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: I mean she takes in dogs of all ages, but 447 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: she takes in some senior dogs too. It just breaks 448 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: my heart. It's like the sweetest thing. 449 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, So at anytime, I'm like, oh, okay, give him 450 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: another hundred dollars. Okay, do you know? That's that's the thing. 451 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: And you know, having having Stony has literally changed my life. 452 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: It's like having a kid. No, I have to go 453 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: to have a dog. 454 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, that's responsibility. 455 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 3: You have to Yeah, and he does travel, he travels 456 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: with us. He was so he's great on the road. 457 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you have to have a 458 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: dog on the road. 459 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good and he's a little celebrity. I'll show 460 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 3: you him, I'm sure. 461 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: Okay, do you have any memories of stick out in 462 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: your mind of our tour? Are particularly like our stadium tour. 463 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: Of the tour itself, or what we would do on 464 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: the off time. 465 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so like after we did the smaller tour? Yeah, 466 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: real quick? Did you know there was going to be 467 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: another tour? Like, were you told, like next summer we 468 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: may do the same thing, like hope you're available? 469 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: No, they I knew that they were talking about it, 470 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: but I didn't know that it was a definite thing 471 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 3: until a few months before. And then it was oh no, 472 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: this isn't just a theater tour, this is an arena 473 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 3: tour and we're going to the UK. You ended up 474 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: doing twenty wait, I had to look it up to 475 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: get the count. Twenty one cities, thirty one shows? 476 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think and I think we ended 477 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: up doing thirty one shows domestically. I think it ended 478 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: up being forty four shows with the Yeah, yeah, the UK, 479 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: I think, oh god, it's nuts. In six weeks. 480 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and because we were doing two shows in a day. 481 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, was that was dancing with the started doing matinees. 482 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 3: No, we weren't doing matinees, so that was just us cool. 483 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: Just doing eleven a M one one pm shows. Different 484 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: crowd for sure. 485 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: But we set the record at the O two. Oh 486 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 3: my god, you have the slush I have the slushy. 487 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: This is probably one of the coolest awards. 488 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: We never caught mine. 489 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah you did say no, no. 490 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: I wonder whether well they went somewhere. 491 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody's got them. 492 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: Somebody got them. 493 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: That's a cool one. 494 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a good one one. I remember the 495 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: Wow some chemical that was made. 496 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: To it was sort of like, okay, I trained you 497 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: kids on this theater tour. Now welcome to my Welcome 498 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: to the big Because we would to cities and you'd 499 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: be like, Okay, here's where we're going. There was a 500 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 2: time we were in Philly and you're like, I'm taking 501 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: you to this Philly cheese steak place. And we got 502 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: and I'm looking at the street because the whole plane 503 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: You're like, I got to take you guys. So we 504 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: all coordinated. We all went and I'm looking across the 505 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: street and this looks familiar. I don't know why And 506 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: I go outside and I recognized this sort of like theater, 507 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: not even a theater, it's like a club. And I 508 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god. I performed there on tour 509 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 2: with the boy band like three years ago, and here 510 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: I am like with you, like a our tour manager 511 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: were performing at the arena tonight, and it was this 512 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: really surreal, like coincidence that you happened to bring us there. 513 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: I was like, this is one of those check in 514 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 2: moments of like, my life's gotten a little crazy. 515 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: We went to on South Street. Yes, yes, it's still 516 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 3: my favorite spot there. 517 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that one so good. 518 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if I should bring this up. Do 519 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 3: you remember New York City when we all went and 520 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: got colonics. 521 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: And a really janky It was a really questionable spot 522 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: on the Lower East Side, and I really thought, should 523 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: I be here in this apartment right now? 524 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: Getting Jenna? You and I went together, and I remember 525 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 3: I went back and I was like, I need coffee. 526 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 3: And I remember in like five minutes later, going, oh, 527 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: should I think I'm buzzing? Because it just went right 528 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: into my bloodstream. That was so that was so funny. 529 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: It was really funny. I forgot. 530 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm still pissitting it to go. I canceled last minute 531 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: because I had to go do something and somebody else 532 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: took my I hear all the stories, very suspicious for 533 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: the best. 534 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was suspicious. 535 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: It was funny though. Yeah. So now you remember Toronto. 536 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: We were staying at the Four Seasons. The hotel was closed, 537 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: like they were re building the Four Seasons, another part 538 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: of Toronto. So the staff just didn't give a shit. 539 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: Can I corry? 540 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: And they let all the fans in the lobby. So 541 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: we got overrun and they were running the hallways, and 542 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 3: I think some of you went and got rooms across 543 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: the street at the Hazelton Hotels. I was I was 544 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: so mad. That's when that hard side of me comes out. 545 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 3: I was like, what the what's going on here? 546 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: Yes, there was a journalist who leaked where we were staying, 547 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: and when we got to the hotel, I remember all 548 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: the fans were outside. But then when we got inside 549 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: the hotel, they were not only in the lobby, they 550 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: were scouring the floors of the hotel where the rooms are, 551 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: putting notes under the doors and shouting names. And we 552 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: were like, we got to get out of here. So 553 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: we went across the street. There was a few of us. 554 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: I think it was like did Leah get a room? 555 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: And so like we all went and like had like 556 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: a slumber party because we're. 557 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: Like, let's just yeah, there was a few people who 558 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: got rooms there and there was a pool, so at 559 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: least we went and swam. 560 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: It was fun. 561 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun, but that was crazy. 562 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: We were breaking the rules though, it was like we 563 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: were sneaking it with like Mom's going to get mad. 564 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 3: I was already mad at the hotel. I mean, I 565 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: think that was the last time with the last year 566 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: that it was open. I mean, the New Force is 567 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: beautiful in Toronto. I go there all the time, but 568 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: I just remember that I was like, well they should 569 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: be you know, yeah a lot. 570 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: Yep. There were also times so like there was a 571 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: passport issue with Diana getting in and out of Canada. 572 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: She had her passport. 573 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, was something that like, yeah, she forgot to bring it. 574 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: Got to bring it somehow. I don't remember how we 575 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: got her in. Maybe it took a day. 576 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: She got stuck, didn't she get. 577 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: Stuck coming after? Somebody had to FedEx a tour I think, 578 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: And that's right. We had to come in. 579 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, because I and I was Heather 580 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: and I went two days early because we went on 581 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: the dancer bus. 582 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: That's right. 583 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: Because some of you guys hung out in New York. 584 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: We went straight to Toronto and had a full time 585 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: to the city. 586 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: I I some of. 587 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: The best times were the parties that we had. So 588 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: we had a party in New York City at the end, which, 589 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: first off, Radio City Music Hall was still some memorile. 590 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: Remember we got up, they sat on the roof and 591 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: all the fans are all. 592 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: The three Yes, that's that was kind of cool. 593 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: At that time. Gibson Amphitheater was cool. But yeah, but 594 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: I still loved Radio City Music Hall because that was 595 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: such a that was such a you know spot. 596 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: Had you been on a tour there was that your first. 597 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 3: Was the first time I've ever done a show there. 598 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: Wow, I feel like, you know all the stadiums and 599 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: arenas at this point though, relieve I know. 600 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: Where all the rooms are, all the dead bodies are buried, you. 601 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, all the secrets. 602 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, and then we went to the party in 603 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: Dublin when we closed down that bar. 604 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: Yes, that was the best, and I. 605 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: Had amber drinking Amber and I were drinking the baby 606 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: Guinness shots. 607 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: Yes I have the glass still. 608 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: I stole one of them. 609 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: I should have done that too. I remember you showed 610 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: I didn't know that existed, and you showed me like 611 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: the little little baby pints, a little baby. 612 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: Ambria or whatever that is similar to and Bailey's on top. 613 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: They were so good. And Megan and I went out 614 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: with Naya drinking down to like a bar and it 615 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: was fun. 616 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: Fun getting we were all seeing each other pictures. I 617 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: feel like we all factioned off. Yes, and then because 618 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: we had we had a day or two free and 619 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: Dublin we first got we got in. 620 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: Yes, we ran into a bunch of the dancers on 621 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: Temple Street, but we went and they had like the 622 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: at the tables, which was like mind blowing where you 623 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: could like y pour your own pint. 624 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: It's like everybody emotionally left themselves in London, and so 625 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: the time we got to Dublin, everyone had like shed 626 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: all of that what was happening, and so we were just. 627 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: Like near the end is near, let's go. 628 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 3: We all drank yeah, because it lended up at the 629 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: same bar and then split up and I think met 630 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: up later. 631 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: Yes, at the schoolhouse bar. 632 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: Yes, so much fun. 633 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: Oh my god. And then the party at the O 634 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: two that we had because I have some oh yeah, 635 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: any pictures because we all had like dance offs that night. 636 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: Yep, I don't remember where that one was. It was pictures. 637 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: I would actually in the venue there was like a. 638 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: Bar slash like club looking room. 639 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Jacko memory a little bit, but yeah, okay 640 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: something how fun? 641 00:31:52,440 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that. You were saying that the 642 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: challenges of you have to go through like paramount travel, 643 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: you're dealing with the network, probably the studio, the executives 644 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: coming in and out for different shows. Then we got 645 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: to London. There was also like additional press we were 646 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: doing for Was it the movie? Is that what we 647 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: were doing press like we were or was it just 648 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: for the tour? I don't know what we were doing 649 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: press for. 650 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: Probably for the movie. 651 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that was a whole other thing. Yeah, Like, 652 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: how do you even manage because it takes so long 653 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: in London the arena everybody performs out as the O two, 654 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: but there's so much traffic and you've just been You've 655 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 2: seen pictures of like Rihanna taking the tube to go 656 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: to O two because it's just wild. It's like one 657 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: day when we did press with the hotel we were 658 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: staying at was on the river and so a boat 659 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: could pull up and that it was absolute most time. 660 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: Didn't we do our Vogue September issue in London as well? 661 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: In Manchester? 662 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: Is in Manchester? Okay? Sorry? 663 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: So in London we stayed at the Savoy and they 664 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: have a boat, but it's like a block away from 665 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: the boat landing and the boat right to the venue. 666 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 667 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: Nice, it's the best. It's the best and only way 668 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 3: you send an artist, you know that just. 669 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: Decide, Like, is that you figuring that out? 670 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 671 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: I can. 672 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, if we figured that out, and then it's just 673 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: whether or not the weather is good enough for for 674 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: you guys to do it or for whoever to do it. 675 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: We did it with them. Did we do it with BTS? 676 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: I can't remember. I feel like we did. 677 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: You did BTS as well? 678 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 3: I did BTS. I still I still do some of 679 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: the K pop stuff with their sideks. Yeah. I don't 680 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 3: go out on all of them, but I'll put the 681 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: team together and advance it. That's besides like the Glee 682 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: and the pop stuff. That I've done. That's probably one 683 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: of my favorites. 684 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 2: Amazing, that's great to hear. 685 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. It's so much fun in London. Yeah, 686 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: probably too much fun. 687 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: I mean, so how do you deal with the different 688 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: personalities because there's a lot of us, Like you were saying, 689 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: sometimes it's just a singer and then you come into 690 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: us and by the second tour we're all more comfortable. 691 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: We're more comfortable probably being honest, it's more of us. 692 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: There are more of us, more, there's more of everything, right, 693 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 2: Like the stakes are higher, the venues are higher, the 694 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 2: fame is higher, which has some sort of psychological impact. 695 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone feels that they need more than the other person, 696 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: or deserve more attention than the other person. You just 697 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: I mean, is there a right way to handle all 698 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 3: of that? 699 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: No? 700 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 3: I mean yes, case basically situation by situation, you know, 701 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 3: you do you just kind of deal with the moment. 702 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: You learn to say no, You learn to like look 703 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: at somebody in the eye and make kind of go 704 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: that's not doable, you know, that's that's not feasible. It's 705 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 3: not feasible to send you home in between shows because 706 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 3: of the traffic, London, right, stuff like that, and then 707 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 3: you always have the but you just you just I 708 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 3: don't know, you just learn. You just you kind of 709 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: learn what to say and how to say it to 710 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: make the person the other person kind of stop because 711 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 3: you can't appease everybody. We're not there to try to 712 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: appease everybody or try to there to make everybody happy 713 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 3: and good, but we're also there to do a show. 714 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: So keeping everybody on that work balance as well as 715 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: the friendship balance because we all became friends at the 716 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: same time. 717 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're. 718 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: Also here because hey, you need to get into glam. 719 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: You need to be doing this and keeping. 720 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: Up that's our job. Do your job? Do you often 721 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: become friends with the artists and the people like it, 722 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: because it felt like pretty quickly like we were all 723 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: going to do yoga together, going to get cheesesteaks sandwiches together, 724 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: and like you're kind of showing us the ropes. Does 725 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: that happen all the time on your tours? 726 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: No, not all of them. I become close with the artists, 727 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 3: but I don't always hang out with them. I never 728 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 3: really hung out with Post, but he's family for life, 729 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, Guns and roses guys, I've worked with 730 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 3: a bunch of times over the years, so I consider 731 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: you know, Duff and Slash our brothers. You know, I 732 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: don't get to hang out with them, or you know, 733 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 3: we would just go have dinner. It all depends on, 734 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: you know, with vibe of like yeah, and I just 735 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: felt with you guys, I could show you experiences in 736 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: different cities and we could you know, do them together. 737 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: And when you find somebody that likes to go to yoga, 738 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: let's go, because that's going to be one thing that's 739 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 3: going to help us balance our days. Huge for me, 740 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: like salsa dancing, Okay, yes, yeah, so I always love 741 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 3: to go salsa dancing, so I usually bond with dancers 742 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: that would like to go do it. Do you remember 743 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: Todd Fox, who you guys hot Toddy. He was a 744 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 3: good salsa dancer and when we were in Toronto, we 745 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 3: all went to this club that was right by the 746 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 3: hotels and I'm like, you have to come and because 747 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 3: of the issues with the fans, he was dealing with 748 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: all of that. But turn around and he comes running 749 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 3: and he grabbed me, does one song and he's like, okay, 750 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 3: I gotta go buy it. He runs back to the hotel. 751 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: I was like, no way, yeah, saddy. 752 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 2: Wow, because he was the one that was sneaking us 753 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 2: out and like going to the other hotel because he's like, 754 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: I know a hotel to go to. It's where Janet stays. 755 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 2: So we like hopped in the car and go across 756 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 2: the street. 757 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: Yes, oh my gosh, wow. 758 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 2: I can't believe he's a salsa dancer. 759 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if he does it like all 760 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 3: the time, but he was. 761 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: He's a som he's a salsa dancer. You gotta like 762 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: entertain yourself somewhere creatively. 763 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 2: The memories are funny. I remember I think, I remember 764 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 2: when you guys went out salsa dancing, and I think 765 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 2: Telly and Megan were with you, and I was texting 766 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: Telly and that's when I learned about like how to 767 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: drink Martinez, because he was texting me what he was drinking. 768 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 2: And then I think I came in after. Sorry, this 769 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 2: is not even a good story. I just it's all 770 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: flooding back. Now I'm tasting like jin Martini for the 771 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 2: first time. It's like, this is disgusting. He's like, don't worry. 772 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 2: By THENTO of the tour, will get you on it and. 773 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 3: Her celebrated call first twenty first birthday on tour and 774 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 3: I have photo strips of that. I will never share photos. 775 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 3: It was so much fun. 776 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 777 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: Were you there when bon Jovi was also staying at. 778 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 3: The Savoy Hotel Savoy we. 779 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: All hung out in that beautiful bar. Yeah, because I 780 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 2: feel like you either knew them or somebody's working on 781 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: their tour. No. 782 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 3: My my great school friend is married to David Bryan, 783 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 3: who's the keyboard player. And I remember we pulled you 784 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 3: out in the hallway Kevin and you got a photo 785 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: with him. 786 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: Yes, yea. 787 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: Also you pulled me out to meet Maxwell. Do you 788 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 2: remember that bar? 789 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 3: Right? 790 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: No? 791 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: Maxwell was in LA during rehearsal. 792 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 3: Oh, during rehearsals. 793 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. Oh my, you pulled Amber and I 794 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 2: out because we're like, oh my god, Maxwell's rehearsing, and 795 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: then you're like, come with me. No, no, no, no, 796 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 2: no no no. You also did that the first tour 797 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 2: with was it Smashing Pumpkins? Do you remember that? Were 798 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: you there? 799 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: Wait? 800 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 2: Because I think you walked us. I think you walked 801 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 2: us into that room. They're rehearsing again at the same 802 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: place we were, and then told somebody for us to 803 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 2: come over and like listen to them do a song. 804 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: Maybe that's center stage, weren't we a yeah, yeah, maybe 805 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: could be. 806 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: You were the curator of the best adventures that you're 807 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 2: attached to all, even if you are, like even if 808 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 2: it wasn't you who pulled us into the room and 809 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: my memory, you're attached to it, it was me. 810 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 3: Thanks, well, I was the one responsible for us going 811 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 3: to that London show of Beyonce. Remember Beyonce? 812 00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 2: Wait, you got us into that? 813 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 3: Oh I just thought you would want me to have the. 814 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 2: I would have believed it. 815 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: I don't remember how we got all we all got 816 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 3: in there, but we all went to go see Beyonce. 817 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: Because we had the same label. I think it was 818 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 2: because we had. 819 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: The same team, that's right. 820 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 2: But also getting us in and out of there what 821 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 2: a nightmare. 822 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: Yes, everything was a nightmare in London, getting in and 823 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: out everything. 824 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's so great, Like we had you know, 825 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: different family members come to different things, and you just 826 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 2: is not go unnoticed how easy you made all of 827 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: that because there was already a billion of us to 828 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: keep track of and then like hey I have four yeah, 829 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 2: Like can you you know in two months when we 830 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: get to this spot, can you make sure or do 831 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: you Like when we were packing, we packed a suitcase 832 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 2: for North America and then we had another suitcase that 833 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 2: we wouldn't really get into until we got to Europe, 834 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 2: and like coordinating those things. I remember being like, oh 835 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: my god, I need to get something out of the 836 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 2: Europe bag. Can you somehow all those little things. 837 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 3: I also think I sent out an email like hey, 838 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 3: don't pack this, pack this, don't pack this, think about 839 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 3: this package the shirts. Take one out before leave space 840 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 3: because you're all going to. 841 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: Go shopping and shopping, Yeah, which we did. 842 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one thing I still after twenty four years, 843 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 3: still overpack. You know, I had two shows. I still 844 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 3: had a full suitcase. You'll never ever look at me 845 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 3: and go look at chill and brought a carry on, 846 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,959 Speaker 3: not even for one. It's not going to happen. What if? 847 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: But what if? 848 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 3: But what if? 849 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: I know exactly, but how. 850 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: Many times have you been caught out? Like how many 851 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 2: times have you gotten to the end of a tour 852 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden or has this happened 853 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: to you where somebody called me like, oh my god, 854 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 2: we need you as soon as you're done, can you 855 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: hop on this other tour without going home first? Did 856 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 2: that ever happened to you? 857 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 3: I did it. I went from Glee and I think 858 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 3: I went home for twelve hours to switch my bag out, 859 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 3: and then that's when I went started Lady Gaga. 860 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 2: Yes, oh that's right, that's right, because then I saw 861 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: you like a couple weeks after in Australia. 862 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you came to yeah the promo shows. 863 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 2: Yes, you got me and Marco into one of the 864 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 2: coolest Gaga performances I've ever seen. 865 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:14,919 Speaker 3: Yep. 866 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 867 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,479 Speaker 3: Yep. 868 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I was like, let me tell you, 869 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 2: I have the hookup of the year. 870 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 3: Mama. 871 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mama is getting into this exclusive Lady Gaga show 872 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 2: and this amazing venue. 873 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Oh That's why I think it's crazy 874 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 3: because the music you guys did on the show. You 875 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 3: did jay Z song, you did Imagine Dragons on this 876 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 3: I mean you play you performed songs from so many 877 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 3: artists that I worked for that I actually that is like, 878 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just this kind of aw full 879 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 3: circle moment. And then when I got hired for Dragons 880 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 3: in twenty thirteen. The only song I knew was the 881 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 3: song from them do Began. 882 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: Is you know the Restaurant? 883 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was like, oh wait, they that on Glee, Yeah, 884 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 3: and I had never heard it. I was like, yeah, 885 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: I know who they are. 886 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: Well. 887 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. And one of the I'm telling moments I love. 888 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 3: I had this photo when you were doing New York 889 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 3: State of Mind. There's a photo that with somebody took 890 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 3: that's a professional photo and it's all the fans wearing 891 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 3: the Warbler jackets and ties throwing diamonds. 892 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 2: Yes. 893 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 3: You and I used to do that all the time. Yeah, 894 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 3: And I love it because kids aren't holding phones up, 895 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 3: so it was like one of those last years before 896 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: phone came out with pictures, before everybody had their cameras up, 897 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 3: and all the girls have their you know, the diamonds 898 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 3: up and they've got their Warbler ties on. 899 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 2: I love that because I started doing that and I 900 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if I can like steal 901 00:43:54,680 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 2: this from Jazon whatever, And I didn't know if like 902 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 2: any of the audience was going to know what it was. 903 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 2: And then I remember you coming up to me after 904 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 2: one of those shows be like that was so cool. 905 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: All these little kids doing like the rock and I'm like, 906 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 2: it's wild, isn't it great? SOB, I have no idea 907 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 2: what it is. That's like I would geek out, and 908 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 2: I'm sure we all did with you because you'd worked 909 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 2: with everyone. When you would tell some of those stories 910 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 2: like wash The Throne was one of my favorite shows 911 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 2: I've ever been to. I went twice in LA. 912 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 3: And one of the best shows I've done. 913 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: That show was so. 914 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: And it was Oh that show was game changing, and 915 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 2: I just remember I would have to stop myself from 916 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 2: asking you too many questions because I didn't want to, 917 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 2: like be annoying, but I was just obsessed. Were texting 918 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 2: some of my friends like she didn't watch the Throne tour, 919 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 2: just just what this said that? And it was just 920 00:44:54,200 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 2: unreal because you worked with all of our favorites. Did 921 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: you notice a difference, because like when you were Normally 922 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 2: people you work with are going on tour of their own, 923 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: like choosing, it's their career, They're going out there to 924 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: promote their music. We were in a very different position. 925 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 2: We were contracted. We were actors who were going on 926 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 2: to promote a show that we were on, but did 927 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: not create it's a very different dynamic. Did you notice 928 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: any difference, Like, for example, by the time we got 929 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 2: to London and half of us lost our minds because 930 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 2: I just want to go home, I'm like out. Yeah, yeah, 931 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 2: Like does that happen. I'm sure burnout happens in every tour, 932 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 2: but if the artist is choosing to do it. And 933 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I love tour, but just coming 934 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: into it from very different sides of it, did you 935 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 2: notice a difference. 936 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, because when you have the contracted artists 937 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 3: that have to tour, they're not giving me the breaks 938 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 3: you need. You're going right from filming right into I 939 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 3: think you guys were doing what is the thing in 940 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 3: New York the upfronts into rehearsals right into tour, so 941 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 3: you're not even given time to catch your breath after 942 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 3: doing how many episodes of the show you had, singing 943 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 3: every single day, recording all the time. So when you 944 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 3: come into our world, even though you love tour, like 945 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 3: there were you know, the new characters that were coming 946 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 3: out on tour that were like green and like this 947 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 3: is amazing, this is so much fun, and then having 948 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 3: to play you know, once you got caught up they 949 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 3: were also getting tired. But I saw it with everybody. 950 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 3: Everybody had their own version of it. But you know, 951 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 3: there are some of the characters that just came into 952 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 3: it already tired, already like kind of against being out there, 953 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 3: especially the second Yes, but yeah, you see it all 954 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 3: the time, but more so with you guys, because you didn't. 955 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 3: I don't even think you had a break in between 956 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 3: tour number one, going right back into filming, going into 957 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 3: the big tour that happened that year. You know, set 958 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 3: records on that tour. 959 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: It was wild top. 960 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 3: It was the top of all the charts. I mean, 961 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 3: we were selling, we were breaking records for merch sales 962 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 3: and venue. So I saw it happen a lot quicker 963 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 3: on that second tour from some but then, yeah, you're right, 964 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 3: by the time everybody got to London, you could just 965 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 3: see everybody start to fall apart. 966 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: Yes, everybody lost their minds a little bit. 967 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 3: But even the musicians, the other artists, they're having to 968 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,919 Speaker 3: tourn out to make money, so you see it, they 969 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 3: want a tour, most of them just have to be 970 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 3: out there because that's really the book of the money 971 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:38,720 Speaker 3: that they're making. 972 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,720 Speaker 1: Now, Yes, exactly, You know you. 973 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 3: Were you're an artist, and you can say, well, I 974 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 3: don't want to do three in a row, I want 975 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 3: to do two in a row, day off one. So 976 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 3: there's plenty to at least try to call the shots 977 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 3: on how. 978 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 2: They do it. 979 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: That's right. 980 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 2: We were learning that with you, Like I didn't even 981 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 2: realize because we were just like, yeah, this is what 982 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 2: we have to do. I remember when we got demanded Chester, 983 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 2: and I think it was like our first two consecutive 984 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 2: days off maybe since we had left the West Coast, 985 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 2: and you're like, well, normally you do have like three 986 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 2: days on, one day off or two days off and 987 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: for it, and we weren't really following that normal schedule. 988 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 2: Oh And I was like, oh. 989 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you've got somebody looking at a schedule, put 990 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 3: in together what could potentially be made, and then they 991 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 3: have to get it approved by more people because you 992 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 3: have more people involved on your side from the network paramount, 993 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 3: everybody having to sign off on all that. 994 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 2: And we're only contracted for a certain amount of time, 995 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 2: so it's like two x amount of shows to be 996 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 2: profitable in this amount of time. 997 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: Yet, and so we're going to do two shows in 998 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: a day, you know, which was a surprise to us 999 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: as well. 1000 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you feel doing that? What was like 1001 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 2: showing up for matinee? Because I imagine you're used to, 1002 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 2: like normal Broadway show up later. 1003 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 3: It's like Broadway. It didn't bother me. I mean, we 1004 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 3: were there, we were we were staying for the day. 1005 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 3: It just made the load they might have loaded in 1006 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 3: the day before for that. 1007 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. But gosh, you. 1008 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 3: Know, I'm I'm very lucky on that tour because I 1009 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 3: had Molly out as the assistant to assistant principle and 1010 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 3: then you know, she was great with the band and dancers. 1011 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: And a lot of people. 1012 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 2: Such a great crew though, didn't we team the war? 1013 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 3: Yes, the audio to everybody and then any of us 1014 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 3: got up on stage and danced with you. 1015 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: Yes, how much fun was that? 1016 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 2: That was also like we got permission from the parents 1017 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 2: to make Okay, you guys can get crazy this last show. 1018 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, because we're going to be involved, because. 1019 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 1: I exactly people showed up in safety dance. People showed 1020 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: up and I want to hold your hand. People showed 1021 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: up and like me, it was so much fun. 1022 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 2: But you there was a report going back to somebody 1023 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 2: official somewhere after each show and I remember it was 1024 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 2: either you or jud or somebody's like, there's no report 1025 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: going back this time. 1026 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 3: No, that's not saying anything. 1027 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, No. 1028 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 3: And there's maybe like one or two clips on YouTube. 1029 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 3: I think I looked, you know, Yeah, yes I do. 1030 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 3: I have some. I have some really cute ones from Yeah, 1031 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 3: and that was so much fun. I just and that's 1032 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 3: like even on Dancing with the Stars, I got up 1033 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 3: at one of the shows and put on one of 1034 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 3: Sheryl Burke's outfits. 1035 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: And amazing hot out you know, but because. 1036 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just my little fifteen seconds of Hurrah Hurrah. Yeah. 1037 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 2: Do you have any favorite venues like or specific shows 1038 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 2: that you've gotten to tour manage that? Yeah, you always 1039 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 2: think about I've been. 1040 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean I always think about the Glee tour. I 1041 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 3: think those, to me are the most memorable because we 1042 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 3: went through a theater tour to some of the biggest 1043 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 3: shows I've ever done with you guys, and the fact 1044 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 3: that I've stayed from and close with you guys for 1045 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 3: so long after you know, I miss Corey every day, 1046 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 3: every Naya the same, you know, because I talked for 1047 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 3: a ton and Corey was just you know, it was 1048 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:21,240 Speaker 3: really special for one of them, you know, but that tour, 1049 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just look and people go, oh 1050 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 3: my god, you did Glee, Like they get really excited. 1051 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 3: Well is that like? And I'm like, oh, it was 1052 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 3: a blast because it was fun, Like we wanted to 1053 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 3: make it fun. We had fun, We had pranks on 1054 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 3: each other backstage, we were always we just had a 1055 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 3: good time. It was a good era, you know, Yeah. 1056 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: It was. 1057 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1058 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,399 Speaker 2: I didn't feel like it was built out to be fun, like, yeah, 1059 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 2: take a load off, it's gonna be hard. 1060 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: But like, yeah, we had xboxes, you know, yeah, we 1061 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: did at. 1062 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 3: Least yeah smart trying to do whatever we especially on 1063 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 3: those Mattine days to kind of keep us. 1064 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are Monday We ask everybody on the 1065 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: podcast before at the end, what is the feeling that 1066 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: Glee leaves you with. 1067 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 3: When you look when I look at a tour and 1068 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,879 Speaker 3: I look at the beginning and the end of it, 1069 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 3: that was That's a very proud moment for me because 1070 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 3: I'm proud of what we did in that short period 1071 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 3: of time. I'm proud of the records we said. I'm 1072 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 3: proud of working with Jared polines Off at that time 1073 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 3: and working with Paramount. I just you know, it all 1074 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 3: meshed together really well. I'm proud of who you all 1075 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 3: have become. I'm proud to say that I got to 1076 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 3: be your mom on that tour because it was such 1077 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 3: a unique moment and it never going to be recreated again. 1078 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 3: No one's ever going to be able to do that, 1079 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 3: you know, but I was very proud of it. I 1080 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 3: was very proud of that tour. I'm proud of our team. Yeah, 1081 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 3: I'm proud of you kids. 1082 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,439 Speaker 2: Working out of you. Are you kidding me? The things 1083 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 2: you have done and the experiences you've been able to 1084 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 2: help make happen for millions of fans around the world, 1085 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 2: because it takes someone like you to put those shows together, 1086 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 2: and that affects the people who go on stage, that 1087 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 2: affects the morale of everyone. And you know, when you're 1088 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 2: at a show, you can feel that energy from the 1089 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 2: people on stage. And you made us better, You made 1090 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 2: the experience. Look, I know we could be a handful, 1091 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 2: and you made it as easy as possible for all 1092 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 2: of us. It made it a joy. And you know, 1093 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 2: thank god you were that was hired, because I don't 1094 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 2: know what we would have done without you. 1095 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,720 Speaker 1: Would have a different experience. 1096 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 3: That's definitely my forte is doing tours like that. So yeah, 1097 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm glad that there was nobody who could compete me 1098 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 3: with me at that time. 1099 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 2: Specialist that sort of thing. 1100 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: People, that's sort of thing. Well, we love you, Angie. 1101 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: It was so good to see you. 1102 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 3: It's so good to see you too. 1103 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: Joining us time. 1104 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 3: I am honored. Bye guys, Oh. 1105 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 1: Angie, it's so good to see her. It's like such 1106 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 1: a specific amount of time that we spent with her, 1107 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,839 Speaker 1: and it was fairly short to feel so close to her, 1108 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: do you know. 1109 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 2: What I mean. Yeah, But it's a pattern with us, yeah, 1110 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 2: or it may be a pattern I think with the 1111 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 2: entertainment business where you have these these very intense situations 1112 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 2: and I think you experience a lot. It's like when 1113 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 2: you go travel with a friend, even if you go 1114 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 2: travel for a week, you've now made these specific memories 1115 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 2: that only the two of you can recall together. And 1116 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 2: we're doing these sort of very extraordinary things in multiple countries. 1117 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 2: And like how we were with a lot of our 1118 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 2: crew that we've had on and Telly and Megan, when 1119 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 2: we found our people, we all just like clung to 1120 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 2: each other and Angie is no exception, so it was like, oh, 1121 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 2: she's good people, She's taking care care of us and 1122 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 2: was really the curator of like a great time as well. 1123 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 2: It would not running the whole tour. 1124 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: It would not have been in the same experience without her. 1125 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, and we are just like if she worked 1126 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 2: on the TV show Bonded for Life. 1127 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: Bonded Forever. Yeah, that tour is a very very special, 1128 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:21,839 Speaker 1: isolated time. 1129 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 2: I loved. I did not know. We keep a running 1130 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 2: total of how many almost secret and special relationships Corey 1131 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 2: had with people. 1132 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: Yes, every person comes on here and we learned something 1133 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 1: about how nice he was to them, how good he 1134 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 1: was taking them to lunch like Sam Marson going to 1135 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: coffee beats at Angie like he it wasn't show for him, 1136 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: like that's who he was. 1137 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 2: He really running on Beyonce hours, like there's more hours 1138 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,439 Speaker 2: in a day for Beyonce, and Corey was the same way, 1139 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 2: and he was making time to spend with people connect. Yeah, 1140 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 2: thank you, Angie, we love you so much. Thanks for 1141 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 2: coming on. And I love that she still has all 1142 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 2: the Glee stuff, the principal office sign. 1143 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 1: And I love that it's like one of the more 1144 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: and of her like fondest tour memory. It's like she 1145 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: thinks about please. 1146 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 2: That means a lot. She's been on everything. 1147 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: Literally, she's worked with everybody. She's worked with everybody, the 1148 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: Watch and the Throne. Are you kidding? 1149 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 2: And I like she says, like us and BTS are 1150 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 2: up there for her. That's love. 1151 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: You love that? 1152 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 2: Okay? 1153 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, thanks for listening you guys. I hope you 1154 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: enjoyed that episode. Angie. Thank you, Angie. We love you. 1155 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed. 1156 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: Ye, thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at 1157 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 2: and That's what you really miss pod. Make sure to 1158 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 2: write us a review and leave us five stars. See 1159 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 2: you next time,