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Speaker 1: mean your wedding was okay, it was my favorite. Or

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Speaker 1: better Backstreet Boy than Nick.

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Speaker 2: Every Oh my god, how dare you well?

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Speaker 1: One of our listeners admits he managed to ruin a

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Speaker 1: longtime friendship with one single sentence. He can't believe he

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Speaker 1: it back, even come on our show and risk nationwide humiliation.

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Speaker 1: Can we save his failing friendship? We're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: in a brand new awkward Tuesday phone call next, It's awkward.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. Have you ever said something

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Speaker 2: It was hey, how you do it?

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Speaker 1: As Brooke would say, what is duh? Yeah? The thing is,

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Speaker 1: most of the time people will forgive you for your stupid,

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Speaker 1: actually affected your friendships with people? Oh yeah, that could

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Speaker 1: pose a problem. And it's why one of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: Joey has reached out for help today, very interested to

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Speaker 1: hear about this. Joey, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Joey, were you? Were you the drunk one with

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Speaker 3: You know? I didn't think I was too drunk. I thought,

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Speaker 3: at most just a little tipsy. But yeah, definitely an

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, good to know that. It actually gets worse

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Speaker 1: than what we're about to hear. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: what was said or where you said it or who

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Speaker 1: like what happened?

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Speaker 3: Well, I was at a friend's birthday party last weekend,

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Speaker 3: you know, at a bar, and probably like thirty people there.

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Speaker 3: I knew most of them. It started going way past midnight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, everybody's having a good time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we shut the place down.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 3: I saw my good friend Vanessa there. We've never been

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Speaker 3: involved with each other. I should say that up front, okay,

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Speaker 3: And from from what I can remember, it was just

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Speaker 3: a really good kind of heart to heart talk.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, when does the makeout start?

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Speaker 3: No, No, nothing like that, just more of like a

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Speaker 1: Or a shoulder to balance on when you're losing it

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Speaker 1: because you're so intoxicated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whose breakup was messy? Yours or hers?

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Speaker 3: Hers?

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Speaker 2: Hers? Okay, okay, so you I mean that's a good friend.

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Speaker 4: Good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been a good friend to me over the

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Speaker 3: years too, And I remember thanking her for just being

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but clearly you're reaching out to us because

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Speaker 5: That nice or it sounds like somebody else remembers it differently.

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Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, apparently because I didn't think anything of it.

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Speaker 3: And the next day I get a call from when

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Speaker 3: Vanessa and they heard me say that I had fantasized

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Speaker 5: WHOA, No, you said her face, not like I have

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I started freaking out.

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Speaker 2: Is there a way they could have misheard you? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like they were the drunk one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I had hoped, because between us, it

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's true. Yeah, okay, just going just go

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Speaker 3: Uh no, I think I'll pass on that one.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, you're no song.

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Speaker 5: You gotta say, like, I don't know if this is

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Speaker 2: Especially in him. It just makes it a little like

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's why I couldn't believe that I actually

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Speaker 2: Oh, you just straight out asked her.

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Speaker 1: I just asked her, Wow, we didn't know if it

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hopefully you didn't go into detail right.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get that far. I just immediately started apologizing

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this it's not something that you actually wanted

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Speaker 1: her to know. It just accidentally slipped out, and that

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Speaker 3: I feel terrible. One stupid comment the friendship's ruined and.

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Speaker 5: The time gonna be worse. Like, she just went through

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Speaker 5: this terrible, messy breakup. The last thing she wants to

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Speaker 5: do is deal with another guy. You know, like you

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Speaker 5: were supposed to be her friend in that moment and

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Speaker 5: that was the opposite of what you were.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I s I feel like I'm piling on it and

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Speaker 2: I didn't mean to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a bad guy and you're keeping all your

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Speaker 2: I get it. I get where he feels bad about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what is your goal here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I'm not trying to have anything romantic.

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Speaker 3: I just need help getting its back to the place

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Speaker 1: That's actually good news, because you're never gonna get back

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Speaker 1: to her romantic start with her. But we could totally

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Speaker 1: get a friendship back, totally. It sounds super easy. Be like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not attracted to you at all.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, why do we even need to give advice

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Speaker 5: when Jeff's here with that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that would be great.

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Speaker 1: Just say psych and we'll hang up and it'll be

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Speaker 3: I hope that's not your actual advice.

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Speaker 1: Because that really I'm trying to joke. Geez, you're so

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Speaker 1: But okay, okay, I'll think of something new. So what

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Speaker 3: I just want to tell her I'm sorry and it

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I guess that's why you need some backup support.

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Speaker 1: We'll all be like, it's totally true. He has zero

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Speaker 1: interest in you romantically. He just wants to be friends.

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Speaker 1: What if Jeff and I outcreep her so much it

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Speaker 1: makes you look good.

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Speaker 3: That's an idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not much of a challenge for me.

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Speaker 1: I did it in one sentence, like a couple of

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Speaker 1: sentence ago. So it's really up to you, though. We'll

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Speaker 1: come back. We'll give you a little bit of advice.

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Speaker 1: Get a female perspective that would help brook, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Tuesday phone call to your friend to be like, I

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Speaker 1: am sorry for saying that I fantasized about you. Oh

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Speaker 1: Mand just's one time, though it was only once and

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Speaker 1: never again. We're gonna do it with your awkward Tuesday

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Speaker 3: It's awkward.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. This is a great example

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Speaker 1: of why word choice matters. Yeah, there's a difference between

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Speaker 1: Those feel very different.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because you could have a crush for a

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Speaker 3: year and that's okay, but yeah, one fantasy for thirty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just hits way sticky and unfortunately for our listener, Joey,

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Speaker 1: he said that second one drunkenly to his friend Vanessa, and.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he added the years ago that would

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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, well I'm assuming it wasn't that night, Joey.

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Speaker 3: Right, Uh no, not that night?

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Speaker 1: No, oh, okay, maybe a week a week before. Still,

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Speaker 1: a general thing is he doesn't even remember saying it

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Speaker 1: since things between Joey and Vanessa have been very uncomfortable,

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Speaker 1: to reassure her it was just a dumb, drunken slip

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: I think right now, Joe, we need to concentrate on

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Speaker 5: what you didn't do.

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Speaker 3: What didn't I do?

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Speaker 5: Okay, what you didn't do is you didn't inappropriately make

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Speaker 2: You didn't pressure her to go out with you. You

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Speaker 5: Kiss her like you respect her as a friend, you

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Speaker 3: You're well said, You're right, I don't think I did

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Speaker 2: I would love it if you would have said I

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I thought.

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Speaker 1: You said you were tipsy. But it's a good doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is a good idea to be like, well, I

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Speaker 2: No, who.

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Speaker 1: Good advice, bro Jose, What do you think? Well, we

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Speaker 6: A group cringe when you just said the word fantasize

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Speaker 6: and I think you should try to use the word

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Speaker 6: fantasize in other areas of your life.

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Speaker 2: Will you try to normalize it, like, for example, you say, hey,

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Speaker 2: do you have any lunch plans?

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Speaker 1: Because I've been fantasizing about this salad.

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Speaker 2: It's just a verb you use all the time.

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Speaker 1: I hate that. I love this advice, Joey. What do

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Speaker 3: If I'm being honest, I kind of feel like the

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Speaker 3: more I use that word, the more it's just gonna

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Speaker 3: make her think about me saying it.

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Speaker 1: About that advice for like two songs.

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Speaker 3: I might never use the word fantasize again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe that's a promise you can give to Vanessa

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Speaker 1: if we're able to get her on the phone here.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to dial her number. You have that

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Speaker 3: I think so?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, We're.

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Speaker 1: I'm dialing the number right now. Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, Vanessa, it's Joey.

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Speaker 4: Oh Okay, what are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm calling you because I don't want things to be

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Speaker 4: I mean it is though, and I don't even know

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Speaker 3: Listen, We've been friends a long time and it was

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Speaker 3: I didn't do any of those things, right.

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Speaker 4: Okay, No, no, thank god you didn't.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you don't have to go overboard about it.

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Speaker 4: I mean that would have definitely crossed an even bigger line.

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Speaker 3: Well, are you hearing what I'm saying? I really feel

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Speaker 3: It's not good. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Look, just really did not know what to say in

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to That's why I'm I'm trying

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry about saying such a dumb thing.

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Speaker 4: I know, but not only did I just get out

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Speaker 1: What related?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she's my stepsister.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow is important.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't make it, It makes it okay.

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Speaker 1: It's okay to fantasize about your.

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Speaker 5: Steps and it really depends on when the parents got married.

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Speaker 1: Oh, justify that, Vanessa. I'm sorry, are you there?

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Speaker 4: What is happening right now?

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Speaker 3: I am so confused.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my co hosts are justifying why it's okay to

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Speaker 2: You did not tell us that you were his stepsister.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think that it was important to mention to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, that's a very important piece. But it also

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Speaker 2: makes sense. Well, your parents are attracted to each other.

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Speaker 1: Brook, you was the one standing up. You're from Idaho,

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Speaker 5: He was an adult when his dad or mom married

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but.

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Speaker 4: It's probably the most uncomfortable phone call I have ever had.

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Speaker 5: My advice to him was almost like, why don't you

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Speaker 2: So now I'm wow?

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Speaker 5: I mean I was really going back and forth on

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Joey, I'm with Brooke. It's not that

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Speaker 1: Weird to talk about it too.

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Speaker 2: No. No, I never had step siblings. But if I

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Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, look out. We need to get back to

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Speaker 1: the problem at hand. The whole reason that we made

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Speaker 1: he said. He does not believe that, right, joe Yes.

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Speaker 3: I believed it once, but not anymore.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's not interested in you romantically in any way

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Speaker 5: When he said that, I was kind of impressed a

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Speaker 1: A very low bar that we're trying to clear. Joey,

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Speaker 4: Please, And this is a huge thing to leave out.

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Speaker 3: I just I didn't think it was an important detail.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, Joey, like I forget of you, but

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Speaker 1: Brother is a different level of it. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 5: I mean, if it was in my family, people would

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Speaker 2: Maybe your whole life or those that. It'd be an

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Speaker 3: For sure, that's true, you know, maybe something we'll laugh

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Speaker 3: saying that we said once, and well me, yes, find

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's funny, how you think it's kind of like

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Eventually, Mabe, I'll probably be able to laugh about it

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Speaker 3: Maybe, all right, yes, all right, well, well at least

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Speaker 3: see Christmas.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to miss Christmas.

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Speaker 6: Can't wait to see you now, Okay, it sounds like

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Speaker 5: And I'd recommend no alcoholic beverages for you at any

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Speaker 2: Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably a good idea, great, okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is a successful awkward Tuesday phone

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Speaker 2: Yes, bringing family real together?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, my sister's calling me right now.

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Speaker 1: Should I answer? What do you think she wants to

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Speaker 3: Why don't you fantasize about it?

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Speaker 5: Reok and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be kind of crazy to say, but

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Speaker 2: I think we did. Oh, they need they needed to talk.

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Speaker 1: I know, And Joey was just going to keep digging

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Speaker 5: And honestly, if he would have told us it was

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Speaker 1: You don't mean our producer does love chaos? Probably I

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Speaker 1: you up late. Yes. That and also Brooke normalizing fantasies

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Speaker 5: They were adult when they got introduced to each other.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on.

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Speaker 1: I have a few websites that you're gonna love. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Brooke, that's how you think.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, I never had step siblings, so but

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Speaker 2: But you've watched close. Yeah, at the end, and it's

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Speaker 1: You need to hop on the step board. That's wrong

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Speaker 1: with me. I'm just glad that we're all good now

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Speaker 1: and they're just going to take their time and let

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Speaker 1: happen all the time. Sometimes you need us to jump

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Speaker 1: in and intervene. And if that's where your life's at.

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Speaker 1: Email the show, we can help you with whatever awkward

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Speaker 5: So weird ass yeah,