1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlie Show. Heres in 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: the Bonus with Doug Gottlie. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: What Up, Doug gott bleep Show, Foport Radio and Doubs. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: So let's get after it. Obviously with the radio show, 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: we got a chance to talk about Mike Gundy's firing 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: today and shared my thoughts on it. But yesterday Bruce 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: Pearl announced the retirement and we talked about it, uh 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: in the radio show because it happened right before the 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: radio show. And like, look, Michael Wilbon, I just I 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: don't know, and there's obviously some negative energy behind you know, 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: it feels like, you know, playing politics here. Wilbon says 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: that Bruce Pearl was divisive. He didn't retire because he 13 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: was divisive. Nobody wanted him gone from Auburn. They just 14 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: went to the final four, you know. So he tweets 15 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: his support of the president and of Israel. Okay, you 16 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: do know he works in Auburn, Alabama. Like what are 17 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: you even talking about? So that one feels if you 18 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: watch PTI, you've seen any of the clips on it, 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: that one feels like Wilbond either reacting to Pearl's Twitter 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: or just too wrapped up in the political stuff to think, well, 21 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: he's got it. This has got to be divisive, like 22 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: it's actually not, especially not in Auburn, Alabama. But here's 23 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: part of the eruption yesterday when they were doing happy trails. 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: This is Mike Wilbon talking about Bruce Pearl. 25 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: Happy trails to coaching for Bruce Pearl, the Auburn coach, 26 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: is stepping down to become an ambassador for the athletics department. 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: In his place, the school gave a five year deal 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: to his son, Steven. Pearl is sixty five. He has 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: had terrific teams at Milwaukee, Tennessee and Auburn, which made 30 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: the Final four last season and in twenty nineteen. His 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: decision comes about a year after Tony Bennett did the 32 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: same thing at UVA. Pearl said he will not run 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: for the US Senate, something that had been rumored. 34 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: Tony. 35 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 5: He become a divisive person, it seems to me intentionally, 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 5: And I hope there was pressure to just get him out. 37 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: Really, I really liked him, and he was such a 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: great guest. On the other side on him. 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: Yeah again, so so super super weird, right, didn't make 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: any any sense to me. And it obviously feels like, 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: you know, whatever he said on Twitter, that's that's what 42 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: it's in regards to. But I think the thing that's 43 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: here's my tago embers Pearl. He is the quintessential college 44 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: basketball coach in both the good and the bad way. 45 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: He is a caricature. Here's a guy who is a 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 2: manager in college, worked his way up, you know. He 47 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: the allegations were always that he you know, he recorded 48 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: a phone call with an Illinois signee back in the 49 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: day and to put Illinois on probation. Right then he 50 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: got on his own probation when he was at Tennessee 51 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: for a barbecue. He was a Division two coach, won 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: a national championship two Division one coach. There was a 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: combination of both shadiness and honestly trying to help people, 54 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: you know, shadiness in recruiting, which it just all kind 55 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: of tracks to what college basketball coaches are known for. 56 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: I again, I'm not saying me. I try not to 57 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: be a caricature. I try to be who I am. 58 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: But remember, like Bruce Pearl is a heardened Jew and 59 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: yet if you are around him and all, he celebrates 60 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: Christianity for his players, it's like the ability to be 61 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: the everyman, to blend into any place, to if everybody's Christian, 62 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: he can be Christian. If everybody's Jewish, he can be Jewish. 63 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: And to just be likable, energetic, always around it. And 64 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: yet and oh yeah, by the way, a really good 65 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: basketball coach, but a bit of a Carnival Barker. There's 66 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: all these different elements to it. But if you said, hey, 67 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: like what makes college basketball coaches unique in how they 68 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: are really these warm, genuous, generous, genuine people. And yet 69 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: sometimes you're like, wait, am I being recruited or does 70 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: he actually like me? That's Bruce Pearl. And and if 71 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: Mike Wilburn actually think he's like, well they should have 72 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: just got rid of like he went to the Final 73 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: four last year. He's done an amazing job at Auburn. 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: So stop making it about your own political feelings, Mike, 75 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: and just you know, make your comments, which it look 76 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: it's fine, like Mike's allowed to say. That's part of 77 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: the beauty of that show. That one was a weird one. 78 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: And I think when I look at when I look 79 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: at Pearl, I think he's the quintessential college basketball coach. 80 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 81 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 82 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 83 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: Let's get to the Foxes and now every day of 84 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: this time that Doug Gotlib Show. In the Bonus Podcast, 85 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: we played for you a portion of a previous show 86 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports One. Here's the Great Dan 87 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: Patrick talking about the Ravens loss to the Lions last night. 88 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 6: Watching the game last night and watching what the Lions 89 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 6: did to the Ravens made me wonder where did the 90 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 6: Ravens defense go? Because it used to be the Ravens 91 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 6: had a great defense. They always had a great defense 92 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 6: and opportunistic defense. They forced turnovers, they got sacks, and 93 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 6: they led with their defense. Now they're an offensive minded team, 94 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 6: which is fine unless the offense you're facing is better 95 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 6: than your offense. And the Lions offense last night was that. 96 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 6: When you have two drives over ninety five yards, you're 97 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 6: sending a real loud message to the other team. You 98 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 6: can't stop us. You could only hope to contain us. 99 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 6: That's old school. That's not flashy, that's not tricky, that's just, hey, 100 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 6: we're gonna run. 101 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna run over there. 102 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 6: Montgomery's gonna run over there, Jami or Gibbs is gonna 103 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 6: run there. That's when you take a team's heart away. 104 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think he's right, Like he talked about 105 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: taking the team's hard away. I do think that Derek 106 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: Henry fumbling again, I mean, it clearly sucked the energy 107 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: out of that building. It was a It was a 108 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: good football games. There are two good football teams. It 109 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: shouldn't be lost in the fact that after they fell 110 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: behind after the fumble, the Ravens had the ball back 111 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: and I don't even know if they got a yard 112 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: in their next possession, you know. So one of the 113 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: things about as much as we can say the defensive 114 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 2: defensive defense, and it wasn't as good as reputation wise 115 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be. But the offense has you know, 116 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: they've in the Buffalo game, there was two other three 117 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: and outs as well as a fumble, and so it's 118 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: what are we doing in the fourth quarter. It's really 119 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: interesting though, because you have the highest the guy with 120 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: the highest passer rating in the history of the sport, 121 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: and in the fourth quarter there just isn't the faith 122 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: that he can drop back and make the make the 123 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: plays that some others can. He's got a really talented 124 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: wide receiving core, good offensive coordinator, and he's again statistically 125 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: really really good. But in those moments and where they 126 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: need to move the football, they do not. So yeah, 127 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: I don't. It's weird. It's like you're you're there, there's 128 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: are Those are two games against two playoff teams. I'm 129 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: talking about the Bills game and the Lions game, where 130 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: they were probably for many parts of it as good 131 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: or better, and as good or better on offense, and 132 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: yet while the defense did let you down some a turnover, 133 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: help the other team get another possession, and then the 134 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: offense can't pick up the slack. It's really weird. It's 135 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: also very early, but this is a continuing trend for 136 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: the for the Raven. Here's Colin Cowhert talking about the 137 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: Giants decision to name Jackson Dart the starter for the 138 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: upcoming upcoming weeks game. 139 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 7: The New York Giants have named Jackson Dart as the 140 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 7: new starter. The Giants are zero to three outside of 141 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 7: that Dallas game. They can't move the ball. Jay McK 142 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 7: and I have discussed this before. I don't ever remember 143 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 7: a quarterback going from elite to nobody wants to be 144 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 7: his coach faster than Russell Wilson, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll 145 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 7: both moved off him quickly. He went to the Steelers, 146 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 7: they moved off him, and now Brian Dabole is moving 147 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 7: off him as a starter. So Jackson Dart again, you 148 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 7: had a very small sample size. But my take is 149 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 7: there's five or six quarterbacks next year that could go 150 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 7: in the first or early second round or about there. Right, 151 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 7: you got to figure out if Jackson Dart's the guy. 152 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 7: I'm not looking for wins with Jackson Dart. I don't 153 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 7: care if he wins, wins game. Is he comfortable? Does 154 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 7: he see the field? You know? My take is the 155 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 7: Russell Wilson thing. I've never seen anything like it. Russell 156 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 7: Wilson did not have a major injury, and Pete Carroll 157 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 7: couldn't get rid of him fast enough. Sean Payton's like, 158 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 7: I'm done, Pittsburgh moved off him, and the Giants now 159 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 7: after three games it's enough. 160 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really crazy, I mean, super super crazy. What's happened? 161 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: I thought that was the story too. Jase Do and 162 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: I discussed this before the show, which is the story 163 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: is not Jackson Dart. The story is Russell Wilson's never 164 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: going to be a starting quarterback. Doesn't mean he won't 165 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: start a game, but in order to start a game, 166 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: he's gonna have to be a backup quarterback. And maybe 167 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: that's later this year with the Giants, or maybe it's 168 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: because of injury or whatever, and so now he has 169 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: to run the risk of being a Hall of Fame 170 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: player who is a backup quarterback. And I don't think 171 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: that happens. Yeah, I thought it wasn't for the Giants. 172 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: I didn't think he would be in the NFL this year, 173 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: and I don't think he's in the NFL next year. 174 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: Not because he couldn't be a backup, because he doesn't 175 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: want to be. That's not who he is. He'll probably 176 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: do television, but it's a it's a precipitous decline. Precipitous decline. 177 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: This is This is Chris Brusard talking about the Packers. 178 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 8: The Browns. The Browns whose quarterback has two touchdowns and 179 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 8: four interceptions this season, that's. 180 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 9: Who you lose to. 181 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,119 Speaker 8: I don't like it one. 182 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: Bet, I love it. I love this. 183 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 8: I love it because it is just what the doctor ordered. 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 8: They were way they win two games over two good teams, 185 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 8: and now they got their offensive lineman talking about we 186 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 8: want to go undefeated. 187 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: Right. 188 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: They clearly went in the. 189 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 8: Cleveland taking the browns lightly. They felt like they were 190 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 8: playing a college team because the way they pushed around 191 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 8: on the line of scrimmage on both sides, like they 192 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 8: have been shutting everybody down in the. 193 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 7: Right total Hackers defense was pretty the. 194 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 8: Defense was fine, but they have been shutting everybody down 195 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 8: in the run. So to me, this is I'm serious, 196 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 8: this is what they needed. They were a little bit 197 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 8: cocky and thinking that hey we got Micah, We're the 198 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 8: best team in NFC. We've arrived, and now they know 199 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 8: they gotta get back into the lab. 200 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty good take, you know. And 201 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: obviously that's the research new thing. I don't I don't 202 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: like it. I love it, and it's that that show 203 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 2: has become actually pretty fun. That's what the Fox said. 204 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 7: Say. 205 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 206 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 207 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 208 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: Let's find out who What's annoying Jason Stewart, and now. 209 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: It's your annoying. 210 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 9: Hey, Doug, I heard you're open about about Bruce Pearl. 211 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 9: I have one one comment about the Mike on Michael Wilbon. 212 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 9: Sound hear that again? 213 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: Happy trails to coaching for Bruce Pearl, the Auburn coach 214 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: is stepping down to become an ambassador for the athletic 215 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: department in his place. The school gave a five year 216 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: deal to his son, Steven. Pearl is sixty five. He 217 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: has had terrific teams at Milwaukee, Tennessee and Auburn, which 218 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: made the Final four last season and in twenty nineteen. 219 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: His decision comes about a year after Tony Bennett did 220 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: the same thing at UVA. Pearl said he will not 221 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: run for the US Senate, something that had been rumored. 222 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 9: Tony. 223 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 5: He become a divisive person, it seems to me intentionally, 224 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 5: and I hope there was pressure to just get him out. 225 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: Really, I would liked him. He was such a great guest. 226 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: He'll learned the other side on him. 227 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: By the way, is Tony really I think? Yeah, don't 228 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: see that one at all. 229 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 9: I think Carnheiser was thrown by that. Yeah, he was 230 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 9: he's been divisive intentionally. There's a lot of those are 231 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 9: really power packed words. 232 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: Okay, can we can we can we first break down 233 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: the word, isn't it divisive? 234 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: Sure? 235 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 9: Divisive? Divisive? But over the past two weeks something, something 236 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 9: really really awful happened. What two weeks ago on the 237 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 9: tenth of September, and divisive divisive has been the buzzword 238 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 9: to utilize when someone says something right leaning that you 239 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 9: disagree with, that person is obviously divisive. The person at 240 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 9: the top, the president of the United States, is the 241 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 9: most divisive president in the history of mankind. 242 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: We can all agree with that. 243 00:13:53,480 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 9: His surrogates, his advocates by association, I guess, are just 244 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 9: all divisive as well. And in Wilbond's opinion, he's intentionally 245 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 9: divisive to do what what does that even? What does 246 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 9: that even mean? He took a shot at Obama three 247 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 9: or four weeks ago, he said Obama was the did horrible, 248 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 9: he was horrible for race relations. And Bruce Pearl, if 249 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 9: you listen to it in context, and I'm guessing Will 250 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 9: Bond has become a victim of the algorithm, right, Bruce 251 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 9: Pearl gets fired and on Wilbond's algorithm on social media 252 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 9: are all of these clips of him saying awful shit. Right. 253 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 9: So the context of Bruce Pearl's comments about Obama was 254 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 9: that it's really hard for Bruce Pearl, a white coach 255 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 9: of black players, to go to his players and be like, 256 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 9: you have a fair shot at life. You can do 257 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 9: whatever you want if you put in the work. When 258 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 9: the President of the United st States between two thousand 259 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 9: and eight and twenty sixteen kept saying that blacks are 260 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 9: lay behind and it's a good chance they're not going 261 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 9: to get ahead, and that's what Bruce Pearl's that's where 262 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 9: the comments came from. That Obama was horrible for race 263 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 9: relations because he kept telling black people that they had 264 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 9: no shot. And so agree with that or not, that's 265 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 9: not divisive, that's just that's that is Bruce Pearl's opinion. 266 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 9: And for bl bon to like do this intentionally divisive thing, 267 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 9: I don't know. Again, it's the buzzword over the last 268 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 9: two weeks. That's getting really old. 269 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's weird. I don't we don't know because 270 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: and he had the forum to give context to it, 271 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: he chose not to. I just don't think he's been 272 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: divisive only in that I don't know how much people 273 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: actually pay attention to a college basketball coach and his 274 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: comments about race or religion or whatever. Right, Like, he 275 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: is a gigantic supporter of Israel, right, we both are. 276 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: He's a friend of mine. I don't agree with him, 277 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: as I think most of you listen to us know, 278 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: like our politics are different. It was okay, you know, 279 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: our politics are the same on Israel. They're different on 280 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: just about everything else. And the only reason he can 281 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: speak out is because he's the best coach in the 282 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: history of Auburn basketball. It also should be pointed out 283 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: that a lot of his politics again, and I'll take 284 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: him at his word what he believes. It's also the 285 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: base of Auburn fans. Right, So the idea that they 286 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: would ever run him out of town and he's beloved 287 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: is hysterical. And the thing that it's lacking is that, 288 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: like you said, victim out of the algorithm is great. 289 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: That's the perfect way to say it. You know, if 290 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: you just watch or just read his post, so they 291 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: just pop up in the algorithm, you're like, well, this guy, 292 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: But again, like as I said, he's the quintessential college 293 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: basketball coach. It's way more complex than that, and there's 294 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: always a little snake oil sales been to it. There's 295 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: also a guy who actually wants to help people. I 296 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: don't I don't know if we've ever gotten this discussion. 297 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: My late coach, Coach Sutton, would always say that college 298 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: basketball coach is buying large for democrats, college football coach 299 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: for Republicans. And the the reason that most of them 300 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 2: were Democrats, white, black, or otherwise is that you're you know, 301 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: it's it's become an expression of bleeding heart liberal right 302 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: where you care so much about other people you want 303 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: to help those people. It's different to have a college 304 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: basketball coach clearly side with a Republican base, but it's 305 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: also the base of his fans. And if he was divisive, 306 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: then how would he continue to get quality player after 307 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: quality player to play for him. It doesn't make any sense. 308 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: So yeah, it felt like a needless, cheap shot. It 309 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: did feel like, Hey, I'm in the algorithm and he 310 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: says things I don't like, so he must be divisive, 311 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 2: not understanding context, not by paying attention to the sport. 312 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: I mean, what again, will Bond's allowed to say what 313 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: he wants to say, not just because he's on the 314 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 2: best sports show in the history of the medium, but 315 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: because that's, you know, the basis of how we do 316 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: things in the country. Now, it's not for your ramification. 317 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: It's not that there should be for this one. The 318 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: only ramification should be like, dude, what what are you doing? 319 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: He's divisive in what way? Support your argument would be? 320 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: Would be my would be my calend because I don't 321 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: think anybody actually cares in like in his gym, they 322 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: don't care. The only thing divisive there is a making 323 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: making them hire your son, Stephen, who I like and 324 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: I hope he does unbelievable things like now that could 325 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: be divisive right where you put your family and you know, 326 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 2: your son ahead of that of the school where you're 327 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: still going to collect checks from. But uh, you know 328 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: I again, that's why he retired. When he retired, say I'm. 329 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 9: Sorry to getting into John Ramos, who had annoy semos nepotism. Man, 330 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 9: that's a whole new opening, a whole new can of worms. 331 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 9: I want to follow up on something we did yesterday 332 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 9: during your annoying remember Rashid Walker line in for the Packers, 333 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 9: said this last week of the Packers were two and oh. 334 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 4: That's why we well two O right now, and then 335 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 4: the goal is, you know, keep it going. 336 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: I've may even going defeated. Honestly so. 337 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 9: Matt before in the wake of them getting beat by 338 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 9: the Browns was not happy when he was reminded of 339 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 9: that comment. 340 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: I just think this league is such a week to 341 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 4: week league and you can never lose sight of that, 342 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 4: and you can't take any moment, any game for granted. 343 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 4: And the goal and I've said it a million times 344 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 4: to you guys, I don't think I've obviously said it 345 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 4: enough to our team. The goal is to go one 346 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 4: to oh every week. And it pisses me off when 347 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 4: we start talking about things outside of the next game, 348 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: things that are way down the road, like focus on 349 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: keep to focus on the present, on the now, and 350 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 4: worry about getting better each and every day. 351 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 9: This guy is usually pretty cool in front of reporters. 352 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 9: He sounds really angry there, Doug. How how pissed off 353 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 9: must he have been towards the player or his player's coach. 354 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: Pretty pissed off. I mean there was nothing, really, It 355 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: wasn't like he called out other teams. He just goes, hey, 356 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: I think we go unefeed it. But yeah, those are 357 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: trigger words for coaches to like. And then and then 358 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: you don't play well against the against the Browns, especially 359 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: the offensive line, and what did you expect him to 360 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: be happy with it? But it did? It did feel 361 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: like an immature comment from a young team that suddenly 362 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: now is the hunt did not don DRR and I 363 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: think there's some adjustment that needs to be made. 364 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 6: So uh. 365 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 9: Jerry Jones was asked about Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons visits 366 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 9: Dallas this week and he was asked, it looks like 367 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 9: uh John Man, John Manchota Machoda asked him, uh, if 368 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 9: the Cowboys plan on doing a video tribute to Micah Parsons. 369 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 9: Jerry Jones says, I don't think that's appropriate. Uh this way. 370 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 9: Emmett Smith was a different story. But that's not to 371 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 9: diminish Micah. I think Micah's got enough enough welcome out there. 372 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 9: We just need to show we've got antidotes for that. 373 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 9: I don't even know what that means, but I resent 374 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 9: the question. I resent the question. Why the hell would 375 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 9: the Cowboys have a tribute to Michaeh Parsons. 376 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: He was because it's fucking stupid. This is what fucking 377 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: this is what fucking marketing people do. They do this 378 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: fucking video tribute shit, which they shouldn't do for a 379 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: lot of people. Micah Parsons is a hell of a player. 380 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: Happy to have him here in Green Bay, but he 381 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: held out while he's under contract his rookie contract, played 382 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: four really good years for the Cowboys, and on his 383 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: rookie contract he could not come to an agreement on 384 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: an extension, and so he forced his way out. He 385 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: kind of acted like a little bit of a clown 386 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: in the way out. Whatever, and that's it. That's business, okay. 387 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: But part of business is you want you want a 388 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: tribute video, you gotta make it to your second fucking contract. 389 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: You got to make it to where you're an unquestioned 390 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player, or we accomplish something, we win 391 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: something we did not. I actually thought it was a 392 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: good question because it gave Jerry Jones the chance to 393 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: act like we're acting, which is like what, But he didn't. 394 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: He just said as Emma Smith's different story, which he is. 395 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 9: And that's the thing. It's like, Michael Parsons, the tribute 396 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 9: would be for the fans, and if you're a Cowboy fan, 397 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 9: you're gonna have one of two reactions to a tribute video. First, 398 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 9: like this is reminding us that we don't have Michael 399 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 9: Parsons and it sucks. The last nine months sucked, like 400 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 9: that was awful and our season's dead because of it. 401 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 9: So I don't know why you'd want to do that. 402 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 9: And then also Michael Parsons, I gave up on you 403 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 9: if you're a fan, like he just shit all over you. 404 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 9: And his agent said that Jerry Jones, he told the agent. 405 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 9: I guess the agent said to Jerry Jones to go 406 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 9: fuck off or something with that one offer, Like it 407 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 9: was just ugly and he was like, Semi, I don't know, 408 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 9: injured in camp and was playing this game where he'd 409 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 9: show up you talking about being divisive. There you go, 410 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 9: there you go. So we got Michael Parsons tribute stupidity, 411 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 9: the undefeated season talk, and Will Bond's divisive talk. 412 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: Oh, I think Will Bondo wins this one. Just the 413 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: insistence that somebody who offers an opinion different than yours 414 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: is divisive is annoy. 415 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: Why are we doing this because we can. 416 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 9: The head coach that I'm really I've gotten alec a 417 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 9: lot more in recent years is Todd Bowles And he really, 418 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 9: he really captured me or got me on his side 419 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 9: in the wake of the like twenty one two when 420 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 9: you're still coming out of that stupid woke thing and 421 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 9: a reporter tried to gotcha him with uh with you know, 422 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 9: being friends with another black quarter or another black head 423 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 9: coach and what does it mean to be a black 424 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 9: head coach? And Todd Bowles wasn't having any of it, Like, 425 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 9: we coach Baul, That's what we do. That's all I 426 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 9: care about. We coach ball. So I guess it was 427 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 9: Sunday night or yesterday he chose to do this in 428 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 9: a press conference. 429 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 7: Oh my thoughts were going for around four testown excuse 430 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 7: my language, Like you gotta fucking be shitting me. 431 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: But I love Tod Bulls big fan of Todd Bules 432 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: as well. And oh yeah, by the way, you got 433 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: to be shipping me. Baker Mayfield did it again? Why 434 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: could we play for you? Because we can't. That's it 435 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: for the end the Bonus Podcast. Remember radio show, this 436 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: pot rolls into it and then you can check it 437 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: out daily three to five Eastern Tall to Pacific Pock 438 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: Sport Tradio, iHeartRadio APP. I'm Doug Gotleig