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Speaker 2: the Texans twenty seven nineteen. JS and Jackson Smith and
Speaker 2: Jigbuk and the Seahawks defense were sensational and Texans offense
Speaker 2: at at many points in time the night that Joe
Speaker 2: looked up CJ. Stroud, Look you're gonna see had decent numbers,
Speaker 2: but it was late in the ballgame when they need
Speaker 2: a meaningful third down conversion, when they needed meaningful first
Speaker 2: fourth down conversion, when they needed to get the ball
Speaker 2: into the end zone, they came up, came up really short.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald was awful tonight. They won the game, but
Speaker 1: he was awful.
Speaker 2: Two terrible picks, got strip sacked in the end zone,
Speaker 2: almost got locked for another safety. Let's start from let's start.
Speaker 2: Let's let's take it from go ahead and take it
Speaker 2: to start from Seattle. Seattle won the game there five
Speaker 2: and two. If I'm not mistaken, I think they're tied
Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers for number one in the
Speaker 2: division at five.
Speaker 1: And two, followed by the Rams.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, Joe, that deep uh set, they're very disruptive. Okay,
Speaker 2: so all the Rams, Niners, and Seahawks are all five
Speaker 2: and two. Obviously the Cardinals are not five and two.
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba. Look, we can say. All I
Speaker 2: know is this. You can rank him where you want to,
Speaker 2: but I don't believe he's gonna be there very much longer.
Speaker 2: He is the best route. Hey, he can do it
Speaker 2: all that release he got the release game. He quicker
Speaker 2: of a can on on the marble table, got great
Speaker 2: hands man, he's special. Little he's special. And they got
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that come out of Ohio state.
Speaker 2: They got a Larve and they got Garrett Marlston, they
Speaker 2: got Michael, they got a Marvin Harrison Jr. And they
Speaker 2: got they got jam But that kid.
Speaker 4: There, he's nice.
Speaker 5: He's nice every he's everything that is advertised everything.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, he's always been here. You understand now
Speaker 4: you understand how good he is.
Speaker 5: When the team was willing to let DK Metcalf go
Speaker 5: and let Ty Locker go because they understood what they
Speaker 5: had on their hands. They understood what they had on
Speaker 5: their hands. He's very good, very good, very very short,
Speaker 5: very polished receiver.
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup through one pick.
Speaker 2: Sam Donald had one pick Cooper Cup through the pick
Speaker 2: that overthrew the dB over through the receiver and uh
Speaker 2: and got it picked. But Sam Donald still was awful
Speaker 2: even with the one pick and the strip sack in
Speaker 2: the end zone.
Speaker 5: And you know what, you know, honestly, Sam Donald, THEYD
Speaker 5: have a game like this because it took for me
Speaker 5: to get the week seven to have this type of
Speaker 5: game where it looked nasty and he needed the defense
Speaker 5: to satan because the defense it looked like the Houston Texas,
Speaker 5: especially theirs the first half that they didn't even belonging
Speaker 5: the goddamn game. They couldn't get anything going offensively. They
Speaker 5: couldn't find any rhythm. See the Stroud was was flushed
Speaker 5: out of the pocket. He was flushed up up in
Speaker 5: the pocket. He had some drops as well. So I
Speaker 5: mean it did it didn't help them. It was twenty four.
Speaker 5: It was you know that was that Nico columns.
Speaker 4: I had one question what happened with Joe Mixon?
Speaker 1: They see he needed with a majory from still from
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 4: They come back after Week four.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, Nah I think that's one of
Speaker 2: the reasons why they ended up signing UB club because
Speaker 2: of that. But see, this is what's concerning, because we
Speaker 2: saw this last year with Sam Donald. Remember late in
Speaker 2: the season when they started playing, when they got had
Speaker 2: to play Detroit and they had to play teams with defenses,
Speaker 2: and we see what happened. That concertain Look, their defense
Speaker 2: is going to keep them in every game. Their defense
Speaker 2: is going to keep them in every game because they're
Speaker 2: that good. Now when they get Witherspoon back, but that
Speaker 2: D line, that front seven, Ernie Jones, the four, the
Speaker 2: real deal.
Speaker 5: How close? How close do you think they are? Well, no,
Speaker 5: that's that's kind of I.
Speaker 2: Think the Rams are the best team in that division
Speaker 2: me personally because of their offense. But if their defense
Speaker 2: good too. Now, don't sleep on their defense.
Speaker 4: Good. Are they as good as the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you a question, is the Seahawks
Speaker 2: offense as good as the Rams? Because remember that they
Speaker 2: did what they did the Jacksonville without Pooka. They can
Speaker 2: run it with Kybrin Williams. I think the Rams running
Speaker 2: game is a little better than the Seahawks. Let's just
Speaker 2: say for the sake of argument. I think their passing game.
Speaker 2: I definitely know the quarterback is better. Matthew Stafford is
Speaker 2: better than Sam Donald. Now you're gonna go wide receiver,
Speaker 2: you say, pooh, could Davonte Adams higbee?
Speaker 1: Are they as good as as Seattle?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: So, I'll I'll give them, I'll give them a nod.
Speaker 2: They can rush the passing with those two guys on
Speaker 2: the edge.
Speaker 4: The good you got to forget now we do.
Speaker 5: Seattle does have a triple crown win it. That was
Speaker 5: just on that Ram team not too long ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but o yo, o yo, he ain't the
Speaker 1: same o Joe. You know that you watch it.
Speaker 6: Wait wait, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 5: Okay, even if he's not the same, there's certain players
Speaker 5: they're there, they're one hundred percent or them being at
Speaker 5: eighty and sometimes better than other players that add one
Speaker 5: hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Of course he's not.
Speaker 2: Now when you're looking now you're looking at the Rams.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question. Is he better
Speaker 2: than debatation?
Speaker 1: Okay? Is he better than Pooka?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: So what do we do?
Speaker 2: So if he's their number he's If he's their number
Speaker 2: two receiver, Pookah's number one. He's number two. Now if
Speaker 2: you want to say, Jack, JSN and Pooka right there
Speaker 2: neck and neck because Pookah made the Pro Bowl. Pookah
Speaker 2: a hundred cat guy back to the back season, if
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. So we know what Pooka is. JSN
Speaker 2: is special. He's really I mean, this is really my
Speaker 2: first time just getting an opportunity to sit down and
Speaker 2: just watch him. Ain't no other games though, because oh
Speaker 2: tell you know, I'm trying to watch Seattle and I'm
Speaker 2: trying to watch this team, and I'm trying to watch
Speaker 2: that team. But I'm talking about he had my undivided attention,
Speaker 2: and I'm watching his releases and I'm watching him get
Speaker 2: in and out of breaks.
Speaker 1: Oh he quick at the cattle on the hot tear.
Speaker 4: You know, you know he was down here.
Speaker 5: He came out here to wide receive the workshop. So
Speaker 5: I was, I was, yeah, I was. I was able
Speaker 5: to see it up close.
Speaker 1: And obviously he got feed on Joe got.
Speaker 4: Some good feet on him. He got some real good
Speaker 4: feet on him.
Speaker 6: It's one thing.
Speaker 5: It's one thing you think is you hear about players
Speaker 5: and you think, oh, he come from Ohio State.
Speaker 4: So they just hype up those individuals.
Speaker 5: But he is everything he's advertised to be, especially when
Speaker 5: you get to see it up close in person and
Speaker 5: then you see it happen tonight obviously not just tonight,
Speaker 5: but obviously the throughout the entirety of the season. So
Speaker 5: it gives you a better understanding. Oh now I get it. Now,
Speaker 5: I see what all the hype was for. Now I
Speaker 5: see why it was so easy for them to let
Speaker 5: DK Metcalf go, let Tyler Life you go, because they
Speaker 5: understand they had on their hands they.
Speaker 4: Got something special.
Speaker 1: Oh he real He's a real deal. Ojo.
Speaker 2: He is the He is the real deal. And you know, hey,
Speaker 2: after next season, they're gonna have to go see it.
Speaker 2: He gonna probably be he gonna ay, he gonna look
Speaker 2: to get that high thirty. He's gonna be in the
Speaker 2: high thirty forty million. I don't know how, because here's
Speaker 2: the thing. That contract. By the time he get his contract,
Speaker 2: that contract to be almost three years old. You can't
Speaker 2: keep saying, well, no, no, no, no, no, we keep dropping that.
Speaker 2: We keep driving that price up. We were not finish,
Speaker 2: just a we're not just finished. Get slotted. Oh Chase
Speaker 2: the oh no, Chase was the best. He got that
Speaker 2: money three years ago. Now it's time for us to
Speaker 2: pull vault even.
Speaker 1: If we got But man, that joke of that man.
Speaker 2: He is so quick, oh Joe, damn in and out
Speaker 2: of the breaks and he's so.
Speaker 4: He's more he's more quick than fast.
Speaker 6: He's not.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's so goddamn quick, and he's able to
Speaker 5: manipulate dbs.
Speaker 4: But you ain't see that. You ain't see that.
Speaker 2: Uh that Uh I saw that release. He thinked him
Speaker 2: inside and he got outside aout.
Speaker 4: The dena the Dina route on on Stingley.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah yeah man.
Speaker 2: But but but the thing is o Joe perfect, a
Speaker 2: perfect thrower, beat perfect coverage. You can't throw you can
Speaker 2: had play it anymore better than that, because I got
Speaker 2: to honor I got to honor that for the simple
Speaker 2: fact though Joe is that he could possibly run the
Speaker 2: seven route on me. So I just can't sell out
Speaker 2: to the post. Ain't nobody in the hole. But if
Speaker 2: you look at when Sam Donald threw that ball, he
Speaker 2: hadn't he broke here and that ball was out of
Speaker 2: his head. Now, the only thing I will say, uh
Speaker 2: uh Stingley gave up a seven route with a safety
Speaker 2: in the hole.
Speaker 1: Bro, run to him.
Speaker 2: If you run, If you run, if you run the post,
Speaker 2: the safety should knock you out. I need to be
Speaker 2: doing this to the ambulance to come get you. But
Speaker 2: you not finish. You not finish. Run no seven route
Speaker 2: and cover and cover one on me because guess what
Speaker 2: I ain't going for. I ain't going for the post
Speaker 2: move because I got a safety in the hole. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna run to your help because that's why I'm vulnerable.
Speaker 2: And guess what, get him every time? Because you know what, man,
Speaker 2: i'mina get I'm finn undercut the seven route. I'm fine
Speaker 2: undercutting you see. Get so caught up, man, I'm a
Speaker 2: duf o cho. They get that ojoe, you give him
Speaker 2: that head. Get this, bro, you got help there and
Speaker 2: you're weak over here. You get them every time.
Speaker 1: To cheat it.
Speaker 2: But uh, man, I don't know what's it. Look CJ's
Speaker 2: twenty three or forty nine two twenty nine one touch
Speaker 2: one touchdown, one interception. He was sacked three times and
Speaker 2: he was pressured, relentlessly, dodged the bullet, he got stripped, sacked.
Speaker 2: The guy fumbled the ball that should have been that
Speaker 2: should have been. That was a fumble but ended up
Speaker 2: turning into a shut down. It could have should have
Speaker 2: absolutely should have been a touchdown. The offensive line, I
Speaker 2: don't know what they're doing. I don't. I mean, you
Speaker 2: look at him and sometimes you got two guys blocking,
Speaker 2: one guy and another guy running. Scott free bro passed
Speaker 2: that ish off and don't turn your body.
Speaker 1: Just put a hand there so you can see it's coming.
Speaker 2: Couse, what you do, this is a rap. They try
Speaker 2: to turn back. That guy gonna be on your shoulder
Speaker 2: so fast, man, you ain't got a stand God, just don't.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get it, O Joe.
Speaker 2: And they spend all week long, and I'm sure the
Speaker 2: offensive line coach they keep your body square, make sure
Speaker 2: you are between the defender and your quarterback.
Speaker 1: Keep your body and they.
Speaker 2: Turn their shoulders every time and then and they know
Speaker 2: they slow with them high ash boots on to come
Speaker 2: to your camp.
Speaker 1: No damn well, you ain't got no fast twitch at all.
Speaker 1: But they I don't know, ojo.
Speaker 2: I just I mean, I'm looking at the Houston Texas
Speaker 2: and they're seventeen carries fifty six yards. Dunton shows with
Speaker 2: the leading receiver to night, he had nine catches for
Speaker 2: ninety eight yards.
Speaker 1: No had four for seventy seven.
Speaker 2: Nico Collins had four for twenty seven.
Speaker 1: I don't understand what is happened? What has happened?
Speaker 6: Listen, I would get ready to ask you.
Speaker 5: I've watched them since his rookie year, and for some reason,
Speaker 5: the Houston Texas looked completely different. They look completely different
Speaker 5: their rookie year. Oh my goodness, they're phenomenal. We're praising
Speaker 5: to see they stroud for coming in and changing the franchise,
Speaker 5: you know, in one year and then turning them around.
Speaker 6: And now we three years in and I.
Speaker 5: Really can't understand what the problem is that where things
Speaker 5: have gone wrong?
Speaker 6: I honestly don't know.
Speaker 5: It looks at that times are times watching the Texans,
Speaker 5: it looks like they don't be long, or they haven't prepared,
Speaker 5: or that the office line cee they Shroud is running
Speaker 5: for his life.
Speaker 6: I mean it just you have guys running Scott free.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: There's always something, there's always a hole, there's always something
Speaker 5: going wrong with them offensively, where it's like there's no
Speaker 5: way they Shroud has no time to throw the ball.
Speaker 2: No they are gonna have to do something about that, man,
Speaker 2: because and it's a combination. It's never all the quarterback's fault.
Speaker 2: Is never all the offensive line fault. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think there's enough blame for everybody to go to around
Speaker 2: go around. But I'm not nearly as sold on CJ
Speaker 2: right now as I was after this rookie season, cause
Speaker 2: you know how you and I we talked about it like,
Speaker 2: oh man, real, well, this this the hey, this the
Speaker 2: Bee's needs just to cast me out. And it's been
Speaker 2: a combination between the offensive line and him, you know,
Speaker 2: missing throws.
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of time he spent after that
Speaker 2: rookie season spending time telling people how great he was
Speaker 2: and how great he's gonna be and.
Speaker 3: Roh.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you noticed, but them guys don't care.
Speaker 2: Oh you oh you, oh you got oh you you
Speaker 2: packed him home? Now, oh you mentioned.
Speaker 6: Your Oh listen, he can get it done.
Speaker 5: He is special. He's another one coming out of Ohio State.
Speaker 5: He is everything that is ties. But unless you have
Speaker 5: everyone else raising their level of play, is very difficult
Speaker 5: for you to do what you need to do. It's
Speaker 5: in very difficult for you to look like you look
Speaker 5: your rookie year. When now they got film on you?
Speaker 1: What do we do?
Speaker 2: How many how many do see? That's the thing, oh joe.
Speaker 2: How many sacks did they How many sacks do they allow?
Speaker 1: Rookie year? Look up? See you how many sacks that
Speaker 1: offensive line gave up?
Speaker 5: Now you're getting hit, you're getting hit, they flush you
Speaker 5: out of the pocket.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, oh joe, when you when you
Speaker 2: start out like here, no matter what, you can't ever
Speaker 2: come down to here, right, they expect you to go home. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you got fifteen and seven games? Six games? Yep,
Speaker 2: six games, so two and a half, so another six
Speaker 2: games would be thirty O. Man, I ain't telling no
Speaker 2: pro football focus. They're on the healthy. They have pro
Speaker 2: football focus. Uh, their offensive line isn't very good. I
Speaker 2: don't need football focus to tell me that. I don't
Speaker 2: know what they I don't care what they're graded.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm glad you said the officers got is
Speaker 5: that they're good. Why did they let their best, the
Speaker 5: best offic the line and go? Why did let larrzy
Speaker 5: tons go?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: I have no ideas?
Speaker 2: And when you got it sacked as many times as
Speaker 2: you did last year, and somehow you thought you was
Speaker 2: gonna get better. Maybe they didn't want to pay that salary.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Redirect because you know, you know what's happening, though, Joe,
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to pay will Landerson junr. You see
Speaker 2: what Michael Parky just got. Okay, your quarterback is gonna
Speaker 2: be up to after third year. Okay, so you got
Speaker 2: to make a decision. But paying a quarterback when you
Speaker 2: they got nobody to protect them at all.
Speaker 5: It may it makes none at all, and there is
Speaker 5: there is no there's no safety valve up there. There's
Speaker 5: no identity on that offensive line somebody you can count on.
Speaker 5: So they got they got they got to fix that.
Speaker 5: They got to fix that.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe the Texans need to have the Texas office
Speaker 5: line need to have a Kumbaya moment, a coming to
Speaker 5: life moment. Simmons would the god damn Bengals had the
Speaker 5: other night when we played, uh, when we played the Steelers,
Speaker 5: because they kept Flaco.
Speaker 2: Flaco got touched what once. If I'm not mistaken, they
Speaker 2: did a great job of protecting black Hole. But oh, Jo,
Speaker 2: it comes down to, like you know what, I'm just
Speaker 2: tired to get my ass kicked. I mean it was
Speaker 2: a very sloppy game. I mean, you had twenty two
Speaker 2: penalties that were called that were accepted for damn, there're
Speaker 2: two hundred yards.
Speaker 1: Both teams were atrocious on third down.
Speaker 2: The Texas was two or fifteen, the Seahouse Seahouse was
Speaker 2: two of fourteen.
Speaker 6: It was it was nasty.
Speaker 1: This was a This was a This was a hard
Speaker 1: game to watch.
Speaker 2: And I understand, you know, Seattle had a best interest,
Speaker 2: they had their team the Unfortunately, they ended up losing
Speaker 2: in Game seven and the advance to the World Series. Toronto, congratulations,
Speaker 2: four to three. Springer hit a home run I think
Speaker 2: in the eighth to give them a four to three lead,
Speaker 2: and then they so that means the excuse me, the
Speaker 2: Blue Jays will face the Dodgers in Game one of
Speaker 2: the World Series.
Speaker 1: I don't know when that series starts, but I was.
Speaker 2: It looks like Seattle was gonna blow this game open.
Speaker 2: And then they got too cute. There was no reason
Speaker 2: for you to run a wide receiver pass. You're doing great,
Speaker 2: you're doing great on Joe. You don't need to do that.
Speaker 2: I mean, why, why, why, why do that at this
Speaker 2: junction of the game, Oh sho, everything were doing everything.
Speaker 2: It's like if I'm an investor, all my things, I'm
Speaker 2: just buying blue chips and I'm doing this. You know what,
Speaker 2: they got this one thing over there. I don't know
Speaker 2: what's but it could be big dividends for us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: big reward, cod a big risk.
Speaker 6: Hey, but listen, what if they made it?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 5: If they made it, then it blows it. It puts the game,
Speaker 5: puts the game out of reach. A matter of fact,
Speaker 5: at that point, Hell, some people might stop watching.
Speaker 2: O Joe, you're you're think about it. You run trick plays,
Speaker 2: O yo. When you like, when you're on that side
Speaker 2: of the field, you get the ball, you run a
Speaker 2: gadget play.
Speaker 1: Not when you're going up and down the damn field.
Speaker 5: And every day, listen to everything else is working working.
Speaker 1: So but they do get a win.
Speaker 2: Texas fan, the chat says, uh, the Texas fan and
Speaker 2: Chance said Houston should have taken JS said, man, you're
Speaker 2: not taking no JS and over those quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: It's easy to say that. Now. Everybody say that.
Speaker 2: Now, I mean, you go back to eighty five and
Speaker 2: your prophet say they should have taken Jerry Rice. You're
Speaker 2: not taking a runner. You're not taking a dependent guy
Speaker 2: on a guy that's gonna have the ball in his
Speaker 2: hand every time.
Speaker 1: You're just not.
Speaker 2: I mean, Will Anderson has been to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to say, look Jamiir Gibbs
Speaker 2: has been sensational, you go back and look at that draft.
Speaker 2: I mean, Bijon Robinson has been sensational. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is really one of the questions. Mark Spoon,
Speaker 2: he's out, but he's a Pro Bowl player. Past Johnson
Speaker 2: has had it tough the Raiders, Tyree Wilson. But b
Speaker 2: Jhon Robinson, we know what he represents. Jalen Carter, Darnelle Right, Scronski,
Speaker 2: Jamyor Gibbs been sensational.
Speaker 1: Lucas van Ness. Yeah, it's easy to say.
Speaker 2: All those things now, o Jo, because because you see
Speaker 2: what JSCN is. But but didn't nobody say that after
Speaker 2: his rookie season. Hein nobody said Houston should have taken
Speaker 2: JSN over c J. Stroud after the rookie.
Speaker 5: You know what you had, you weren't able to see it,
Speaker 5: Uh you were, You weren't able to get a sample
Speaker 5: size of his bodywork.
Speaker 6: That's why you don't. You don't know what you're getting.
Speaker 1: I still wouldn't take jsc And over C. J. Stroud.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking no damn receive over no quarterback.
Speaker 2: So that by that, by that thing, would you take
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase over Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Matthew Stafford, Josh Allen,
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert? Would you take would your best receiving the game?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, because you understand catching the ball, what it's
Speaker 2: like to have somebody that's not at that level trying
Speaker 2: to get you the ball.
Speaker 6: It's hard.
Speaker 2: When you had cars, so this like, man, then you
Speaker 2: get somebody that's not cars.
Speaker 6: He's like, damn, it's a different wall game.
Speaker 2: You take for granted when you got a guy like
Speaker 2: that because you think, man, it's me, Man, I be
Speaker 2: dealing out here. I ain't you give me anybody I
Speaker 2: can do this? Yeah, Okay, Damn I can't. I can't
Speaker 2: do it with anybody, oh Joe. In the game before that,
Speaker 2: the Lions beat the Bucks twenty four to nine. Jamier
Speaker 2: Gibbs two hundred and eighteen yards from scrimmage. He had
Speaker 2: seventeen carries a Buck thirty six. He had eighty two
Speaker 2: yards on three catches. Oh Joe, he had that. They
Speaker 2: had that combo block. You see, that was the guard
Speaker 2: to tackle the dealer. Combo block who that d out
Speaker 2: of the way, got up on that backer.
Speaker 1: And when he hit that hole, I said, I feel,
Speaker 1: I feel.
Speaker 2: I felt bad for Winfield Junior because they're like, bro,
Speaker 2: that man got a head un you be, he should
Speaker 2: have just started taking off, try to run it and
Speaker 2: try to intercept.
Speaker 1: Make it five.
Speaker 6: He took an angle. That angle ain't matter. Listen. Jamiir Gibbs.
Speaker 5: Jamiir Gibbs is probably the closest thing we have with
Speaker 5: Chris Johnson. He probably the closest thing we had with
Speaker 5: Chris Johnson right now in the NFL at the running
Speaker 5: back position.
Speaker 6: He doesn't get talked about enough. We talking about b
Speaker 6: john Oh.
Speaker 1: Yea yea yea yeah, yea yea yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He got that kind of speed. Yes, he got that
Speaker 2: kind of speed, O Joe, he looked fast.
Speaker 6: You show he show does.
Speaker 2: But you can't let a guy with that kind of speed,
Speaker 2: O Joe, come to the line of Scrimmagejumson.
Speaker 5: Hey, once he gets past, you don't make him check
Speaker 5: his feet listen. Sometimes even if you make him check
Speaker 5: his feet, he still might get you.
Speaker 2: True, true, But but without checking his feet at all
Speaker 2: at all, you got to think about it.
Speaker 1: He didn't get.
Speaker 6: Touched right through that clean and he hold on.
Speaker 2: That's like it's like that we say a boy, Darrick Henry,
Speaker 2: you got to make him chick his feet because if
Speaker 2: you let him get a run and start coming down
Speaker 2: the hill, Hell no, don't nobody want.
Speaker 1: To tackle it.
Speaker 6: Who I'm gonna make a business decision. I'm gonna hit
Speaker 6: every every shoe lace he got.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him get past me and jump on
Speaker 2: his back. Hey, hell DoD you ain't even knock me out?
Speaker 1: Hey nah.
Speaker 2: Uh. Twenty four to nine, Detroit go to five and two,
Speaker 2: Tampa falls to five and two. Jerry Goff was twenty
Speaker 2: and twenty nine two forty one one test down won
Speaker 2: in a session with sacked four times.
Speaker 6: Me.
Speaker 2: I don't think either quarterback paid particularly well. I thought
Speaker 2: Baker had the worst of the two nights because he
Speaker 2: was hired a lot of throws.
Speaker 1: He missed miss White for touchdown.
Speaker 2: He had Abuka once and hit the dB in the back,
Speaker 2: and then he had another one that he wasn't able
Speaker 2: to step into it. He undershot him on that one,
Speaker 2: but I thought.
Speaker 1: He was hot.
Speaker 2: He missed a lot of throws. He had a lot
Speaker 2: of guys open though. Joe he was high at night
Speaker 2: for some reason. I don't know if the pressure got
Speaker 2: to him, of what the case was, but he was
Speaker 2: high on a lot of bros tonight.
Speaker 1: They didn't run the ball particularly well. Twelve. They didn't
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of Russell tempts.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Twelve carries for forty one yards. Baker threw it fifty
Speaker 2: times because they fell behind. They were down fourteen to three,
Speaker 2: and then Jerry Golf had had that turnover. But uh,
Speaker 2: Detroit defense is playing unbelievable.
Speaker 6: They got to give Kevin, Kevin Shappard his flowers.
Speaker 1: They got to give Kevin the job.
Speaker 5: Not only not only did he call whin hell of
Speaker 5: a game right understand all the injuries that they have
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 6: The whole the whole back end is gone. Damn near.
Speaker 2: Carry Joseph Brian Robinson, Armstead, Joseph, I mean Arnold, excuse me,
Speaker 2: Arnold Arnold Brian.
Speaker 6: Brian Branch carrying out.
Speaker 2: Oh, Brian Branch, No carry rock carry what's carry Joseph,
Speaker 2: Carry Joseph, He's Kirby.
Speaker 1: No, it's Ky yeah, Kirby, Kirby, Joseph Arnold.
Speaker 2: So they got three starters out in the secondary, and
Speaker 2: those guys they played their ass.
Speaker 6: Us balling, balling, they played.
Speaker 2: Their ass off. Hallett eight tackles. What do you call
Speaker 2: was being his disruptiveself. Hutchison, he didn't have a sack,
Speaker 2: but he called.
Speaker 6: A hutch nice now hutch nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a sack of a half. Bars had
Speaker 2: a sack. Jack Campbell had a sack.
Speaker 6: The office didn't look like itself though today it ain't
Speaker 6: look like yourself.
Speaker 5: No, obviously you're going to you're going against the Tampa
Speaker 5: Bay defense that they ain't no slou cheating.
Speaker 6: They ain't no slouch eater. So I think that's.
Speaker 5: Why it almost looks I hate using the word human,
Speaker 5: but most of the time we watched the Lions offense,
Speaker 5: they do things that are different from everybody else. They
Speaker 5: take chances that other teams definitely wouldn't take. Going forth
Speaker 5: for fourth and fourth, going forth for fourth and two.
Speaker 1: I mean, they put a lot of pressure on you
Speaker 1: can't relax.
Speaker 5: So Joe exactly, So and see that's the thing tonight.
Speaker 1: With the Lions.
Speaker 2: It's really four downs because a lot of teams you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: we get the third a let's get off the field
Speaker 2: on third down. Nah, there's a great chance you're probably
Speaker 2: gonna have to stay on the field if it's fourth
Speaker 2: and four less depending on whether first of all, if
Speaker 2: it's fourth and one and they're the midfield, well, if
Speaker 2: it's if they're on the other side of midfield, and
Speaker 2: if it's probably.
Speaker 6: Fourth and territory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put a lot of They put a lot
Speaker 2: of damn pressure on you and it and it's hard
Speaker 2: to stay focused because they're so creative. They do a
Speaker 2: lot of things. Hey man, you started to swing that
Speaker 2: ball that Jamior Gibbs and was out there running.
Speaker 6: But was moving.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, wait a minute, look at body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad Winfield dodged it because he running that fast,
Speaker 2: he'd hit somebody, He'd hurt somebody back.
Speaker 1: Arm In Ross Saint Brown was arm and Ross Saint Brown.
Speaker 2: He had six catches eighty six yards to touchdown gives
Speaker 2: with three for eighty two Gibs again, seventeen carries above
Speaker 2: thirty six two touchdowns ah, he, I don't know. Look,
Speaker 2: we talk about these backs, and there's some great backs,
Speaker 2: but right now Gibs, b Sewn Robinson and Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 2: they're they're they're they're they're the top three backs currently
Speaker 2: thing in the NFL.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, you know what.
Speaker 5: I hate the fact that we have to leave say
Speaker 5: Can off that list. But I think at some point, oh,
Speaker 5: we got you. As the season goes on, I think
Speaker 5: things open up. He just has to continue to be patient,
Speaker 5: keep on chucking. You know though, those runs are going
Speaker 5: to come, because as as you start to have success
Speaker 5: in the past, maybe just maybe defenses say, okay, you
Speaker 5: know what, we're not gonna make ja.
Speaker 6: We're not gonna allow jenen Hurst to beat us.
Speaker 5: Since Saton one hasn't had any success so far this season,
Speaker 5: Let's see if he can still do what he did
Speaker 5: last season.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, Seve maxis in that because Seve Mackott's been sensational.
Speaker 2: See mackis always gonna be in there because he's so versatile.
Speaker 2: We saw yesterday, Oh Joe seven Key let him and
Speaker 2: rush it and receiving.
Speaker 1: He gonna go.
Speaker 2: Get he can go get you one twenty, he can
Speaker 2: go get your seventy you know, six fifty seventy yards receiving.
Speaker 2: It's just that the pounding that he takes because you
Speaker 2: give him the ball twenty to twenty two times on handoffs,
Speaker 2: and then you throw it to him another seven eight times.
Speaker 1: That's thirty carries. He's not there, Henry. He's two oh five,
Speaker 1: he's not too forty five.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of pounding for a man that's not
Speaker 2: big a stature. Now he plays big runs and he's
Speaker 2: just not a guy. That's what I love about him
Speaker 2: at Gibbs because they're just not outside running.
Speaker 5: They run me twenty tackles straight downhill.
Speaker 2: So it's hard to get a pinpoint where when he's
Speaker 2: in the game, look to look for tosses, look for pitches,
Speaker 2: look for him to get outside. Nah, hell no, they'll
Speaker 2: run that thing up into between the tackles. They run power,
Speaker 2: they'll run out. Yes, yes, and I love I love
Speaker 2: that about them. But uh, the look Detroit is gonna be.
Speaker 6: There every every time. Every time.
Speaker 2: I still think Tampa, I think Tampa's good. They had
Speaker 2: a bad night tonight, Baker. This was this was the
Speaker 2: worst game that Baker's played thus far. Uh, He's still
Speaker 2: in the MVP conversation, he's allowed other guys to catch
Speaker 2: up with it. Wait, whoa you know you allowed Matt
Speaker 2: Stafford after that performance, even though he didn't throw for
Speaker 2: a ton of yards, five touchdowns and five touchdown my homeboy,
Speaker 2: he was never out of it. He's always gonna be
Speaker 2: in a discussion because he's always gonna have.
Speaker 6: You those first two weeks, he definitely wasn't a discussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when it saw I was saying done. No,
Speaker 2: the first two weeks, hell now, he wasn't in contention,
Speaker 2: but you knew, you know, based on his resume, there's
Speaker 2: a good chance when it's all saying done, he's gonna
Speaker 2: end up thirty plus touchdowns. He's gonna be over four
Speaker 2: thousand yards, and he's gonna be you know. Now they
Speaker 2: got an offensive line that can can protect it. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: it's uh, Mike Cavins Ojo suffered the broken classical. It's
Speaker 2: going to mister the remainder of the twenty twenty five seasons.
Speaker 2: Todd Bowle says after the game he'll be out mostly
Speaker 2: towards the end of the season. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: It depends on yo. Uh. Sometimes they put a pin
Speaker 2: in it. Sometimes they let it heal on its own. Now,
Speaker 2: when the heels on his own, it's gonna caunsel fire.
Speaker 2: You have a big old walk on your shoulder, like
Speaker 2: like I got on mind. It's painful. I know, it's
Speaker 2: pay I can tell you that because he ain't no
Speaker 2: position sleeping, ain't no position that you can get in.
Speaker 1: It's comfortable.
Speaker 2: Listen, Hey, like trying to brush your teeth, Hey, come
Speaker 2: on in here, bring my teeth. You can't do it bad.
Speaker 2: I feel ain't bad. I felt so bad, but hey,
Speaker 2: any move. But don't you know I mean I had
Speaker 2: to I had to sleep. You know, I had one
Speaker 2: of the bands that you know, because I had to
Speaker 2: sleep set up. You couldn't you lay down? Oh that pressure?
Speaker 2: Oh you try to lay on the side that's not broke,
Speaker 2: And don't you don't you forget?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: Hold on?
Speaker 5: Did you tell the story about you thought you was coming?
Speaker 5: You you thought it was it was a little you
Speaker 5: felt good? And he was on the treadmill.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I broke I broke the star the scar teasue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but mad and what he was he was tied
Speaker 2: with Jerry or he was one one thousand yard season
Speaker 2: behind Jerry.
Speaker 6: Hey eleven thousand.
Speaker 2: Yards eleven one consecutive because I faint Jerry got like
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen, but consecutive. Because Jerry Street snapped his streak
Speaker 2: in ninety seven because he broke his Warren Sapp tackled him,
Speaker 2: he tores acl.
Speaker 1: He came back that same season.
Speaker 2: He did it the first game, and then week sixteen
Speaker 2: he came back.
Speaker 6: I wonder how he did that.
Speaker 2: Don't start me to lie. I'm telling you he came
Speaker 2: back and he caught two touchdowns against us. He tied
Speaker 2: with Jerry eleven consecutive. No, he's not gonna pass him
Speaker 2: because he was one behind him. And you remember he
Speaker 2: heard his hamstring last year and came back and he
Speaker 2: got it, but well left because Jerry didn't have one
Speaker 2: thousand and eighty five when he came in. And then
Speaker 2: Jerry went eighty from eighty six all the way through
Speaker 2: ninety six, and then he picked right back up and
Speaker 2: got a thousand more, and then he got a thousand
Speaker 2: in ninety eight.
Speaker 1: I don't think he got a thousand in ninety nine
Speaker 1: because that was his last year.
Speaker 2: That was his last. If I'm not mistaken, that was
Speaker 2: his last year. No, two thousands might have been his
Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, two thousand might have been his last year.
Speaker 6: He might have been two thousand and one in Saan Frayan.
Speaker 6: He was, he was, he was with the Raiders.
Speaker 1: No, he's that towards Acah.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know he got like thirteen thousand catch seasons,
Speaker 2: thirteen or one thousand yard receiving seasons he got fourteen,
Speaker 2: because I know he had a thousand at forty, he
Speaker 2: had a thousand, He had a thousand receiving yards at forty,
Speaker 2: had twelve hundred things.
Speaker 6: They feed it that rock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yes, good night, Look and everybody's gonna go.
Speaker 2: There are very few games that you go Scott free
Speaker 2: that you just like. Okay, he's the m v P
Speaker 2: front runner in every game he plays that. He plays
Speaker 2: like that. You're gonna have ups and down. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be ebb and flow because look, we thought Lamar had it,
Speaker 2: and then Lamar had a little gick up, and then
Speaker 2: Josh Allen was doing his thing, did his thing and
Speaker 2: and and end up sneaking sneaking past him. But uh, look,
Speaker 2: Baker's had a phenomenal season. Yeah, this one game and
Speaker 2: he didn't play. He didn't play well tonight. But do
Speaker 2: I think he'll have another game like he had tonight.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I don't.
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna have to get they lose Mike Evin,
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to get Chris Godwin to and to
Speaker 2: help take Olivia some of that pressure on the Google
Speaker 2: that Tis Johnson is playing, well, he's aall guy, but
Speaker 2: he cat quick.
Speaker 6: He can run to you can run too now. But
Speaker 6: I like it.
Speaker 5: I like what they've done with with with the absence
Speaker 5: in the absence of Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, and
Speaker 5: they keep moving the book around in different positions. They
Speaker 5: keep moving around, put him in motion, put him in
Speaker 5: the slot, condensing the splits, sometimes having him out wide,
Speaker 5: so you put them in a different position to be
Speaker 5: able to make those plays that Mike Evans would make,
Speaker 5: some of the plays that Chris Godwin would make. And
Speaker 5: they keeping your guessing on defense where he's going to
Speaker 5: be at. Yeah, And I think that's why he's had
Speaker 5: so much success. When you like, well, hell, Mike Evans
Speaker 5: is out, Chris Godin's out. Well, hell, all we got
Speaker 5: to do is double number two. But nothing that seemed.
Speaker 6: To work because he's been productive.
Speaker 5: He had a hell of a string of what but
Speaker 5: before he heard his hamstring last week, he was going crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, Bucky Irvin, I believe Bucket Irving is
Speaker 2: that that's running back. He's not been He's not been
Speaker 2: there the last couple of games. You get Chris Godwin back,
Speaker 2: you put him with a BOOKA, you put him with
Speaker 2: Sterling Shepherd, Tas Johnson. I think they have more than
Speaker 2: enough weapons. That defense is gonna keep him in every
Speaker 2: The defense is gonna keep him in every game because
Speaker 2: that defense is really good. They're good against the run.
Speaker 2: Uh yabba, you know, Hey what it was? Beat the vay.
Speaker 2: Hey he's gonna collapse the pocket. Levante Davis still playing
Speaker 2: at a at a Pro Bowl level. Winfield Junior one
Speaker 2: of your better safeties. You can be good in coverage,
Speaker 2: you can come up and tackle.
Speaker 1: Uh No.
Speaker 4: I like.
Speaker 2: I like what they have in Tampa. Still believe they're
Speaker 2: the best team in that division. Jamel Dean is playing
Speaker 2: really well at at the corner position.
Speaker 5: They're gonna be in the conversation at the at the end,
Speaker 5: at the end, when it's all said and done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, Joe, the Offhins head coach of Mike McDaniel
Speaker 2: says Too will be the starting quarterback this week, and
Speaker 2: his explanation is that they will not throw ten picks.
Speaker 1: Check this out, Yoe.
Speaker 4: My expectation he's gonna take the snaps this week and
Speaker 4: he's gonna their start this week.
Speaker 5: And my expectation is that we don't throw ten decks.
Speaker 1: So that's why you so you hope you don't so
Speaker 1: you're gonna start it.
Speaker 6: Look, no, I can tell you why. I can tell
Speaker 6: you why he's starting you.
Speaker 1: And Quinn yours? Is it ready?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 5: Only is quin you is not ready to play? You
Speaker 5: ain't mentioned no forty million dollars quarterback. No, you just
Speaker 5: paid him four months ago. You just paid him five
Speaker 5: months ago. I ain't putting him on the bench, not
Speaker 5: making that, but that kind of price tag.
Speaker 2: They're gonna put his ass on the bench and they're
Speaker 2: gonna look the movie after the season.
Speaker 1: Wait, who who?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, let me see, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Nk Queen yours and they got Sam and Gota Wilson.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to I'm trying to understand who do the Dolphins?
Speaker 6: Who do we? Who do we have this Sunday.
Speaker 1: Falcons.
Speaker 6: God damn it, Ojo.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out what y'all trying to accomplish.
Speaker 1: Don't get that drop pick.
Speaker 5: You do realize you just get that it's too in
Speaker 5: the first first year or second year of his deal.
Speaker 1: Second year. God damn.
Speaker 2: They said that about they said, they said that same
Speaker 2: thing about you know who Russ. Oh Man, they just
Speaker 2: paid Russ. They gonna get rid of Russ. What do
Speaker 2: they do, o Joe? You're right, Packer said, say they
Speaker 2: said the same thing about Aaron Rodgers with the Packers.
Speaker 1: What did they do? Ojoe?
Speaker 5: Hey, but they had a plan, they had a plan.
Speaker 5: They had a plan B. I don't think the Dolphins
Speaker 5: have a plan B right now. Yours is not the answer.
Speaker 5: If any le broncos they have no plan B.
Speaker 6: They drafted.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're right, right, They just like, we just know
Speaker 1: he's not the answer. So we're moving on the question.
Speaker 2: The Dolphin is gonna have to ask themselves. They already
Speaker 2: know this too. It's not the answer. And I don't
Speaker 2: believe he can go back in the locker room after
Speaker 2: what he.
Speaker 6: Said and what he's hard to come back.
Speaker 2: That is just me coming from a guy that was
Speaker 2: in the that was in the locker room. You know
Speaker 2: this as I do. I just don't believe he can
Speaker 2: go back in there and lead those guys. That's not
Speaker 2: to say he can't go somewhere else and lead.
Speaker 5: But then that that's saying that stain is already on you,
Speaker 5: though on that stain is already on you, And it
Speaker 5: doesn't matter if you go to a the other teams
Speaker 5: you're there, it's still going to be the top of
Speaker 5: the conversation. Well, damn, when he was, when he was elsewhere. Shoot, man,
Speaker 5: he snitched on the boy. You know, you know how
Speaker 5: we you know how these young folks talk. Now, man,
Speaker 5: he snitched on the boy. Man we get man, don't
Speaker 5: you They won't. They won't look at you the same.
Speaker 2: Hey, don't say nothing, don't say nothing around to Yeah,
Speaker 2: man killer talking ass.
Speaker 6: Damn, that's messed up.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: I like him though.
Speaker 5: I like him good dude, good dude, good dude, good
Speaker 5: because he means well.
Speaker 1: He's just I mean, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know what made him think that saying what
Speaker 2: he said in front of the media was going to
Speaker 2: be received.
Speaker 1: How did he think? How did he think that was
Speaker 1: going to be received, don't Yoe.
Speaker 6: I don't know, uh honest, see yeah yeah, to will.
Speaker 1: Put them on blasts. No to it. You can't put
Speaker 1: him on blasts. You can't.
Speaker 5: I mean you also have also as a quarterback, as
Speaker 5: that captain, you have to be more self aware and
Speaker 5: understanding that you got to also protect those that are
Speaker 5: in house, protect them people.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know what he was thinking of
Speaker 1: Joe mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he thought that was gonna be like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I'm doing a good thing.
Speaker 1: This is leadership right here.
Speaker 6: Maybe he did think that.
Speaker 1: Maybe the mere.
Speaker 2: Fact that they came late. Let you know what your
Speaker 2: leadership was in question. Lamar Jackson calls a meeting. Who's
Speaker 2: showing up? Patrick Mahone showed Baker Mayfield calls a meeting forget.
Speaker 1: Let let let's let's put it in.
Speaker 2: Okay, we already know the top dogs, Lamar Josh Joel,
Speaker 2: my homeboy, we already know. They call the meet and
Speaker 2: everybody show it. Let's take it a step, Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: But let's go Baker Mayfield. They're gonna show up on
Speaker 2: time because of your leader, because you're the highest paid
Speaker 2: that'll make you the leader you But I don't care
Speaker 2: who have that on it. Guys know who got the
Speaker 2: locker room determines the leader, not coaches.
Speaker 6: And your play helps as well.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's the number one thing that makes you a leader.
Speaker 2: That's the number one thing.
Speaker 6: When that when when that's not when when.
Speaker 1: His play hasn't been leader? Is is there such a word.
Speaker 5: When your words and what you say in the media
Speaker 5: it don't match up something something? And listen, is Uchi
Speaker 5: Wally or is one Mike? Both of them can't be bad?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That calls a meeting. Jane Daniels calls a meeting.
Speaker 6: I'm there. I don't even play for them, and I'm
Speaker 6: gonna be in the meeting.
Speaker 1: That's that That tells you everything.
Speaker 2: And I said this, look, I don't but I just
Speaker 2: I just don't see how he goes back in that
Speaker 2: locker room and lead those guys a fresh start sometimes
Speaker 2: don't You're a fresh start?
Speaker 1: Is what's the leading? He does?
Speaker 2: Sometimes A sometimes a relationship. And that's what a player
Speaker 2: in an organization is. It's a relationship sometimes, you know what,
Speaker 2: It's just best that we go our separate ways. That's
Speaker 2: not to say that you won't find somebody that you
Speaker 2: will be great. That doesn't mean I won't find somebody
Speaker 2: that I'll be great with, but I just know us together.
Speaker 5: Hey, I don't like the way that sound, huh, because
Speaker 5: you got to understand Dolphin fans. Dolphin fans have been
Speaker 5: in the same situation since Marino has been gone. We
Speaker 5: haven't been able to find someone to be able to
Speaker 5: leave the ship for a very long time.
Speaker 6: We haven't.
Speaker 5: We haven't found a quarterback that we can say, say,
Speaker 5: you know what, we don't have to worry about this position.
Speaker 5: Now we can build around. We always seem to find
Speaker 5: ourselves starting over from scratch.
Speaker 1: Sometimes.
Speaker 2: Lo cho, I'm gonna tell you like my grandfather told
Speaker 2: the guy. He says, you like a Monday, you look
Speaker 2: better going and coming.
Speaker 6: So yeah, nah uh I like that.
Speaker 1: So uh that's what I just think.
Speaker 2: Stephen Ross probably is probably gonna gonna clean house. Grier
Speaker 2: is probably gonna lose his job. Damn oh Joe, think
Speaker 2: about it. They went all in. The they traded for
Speaker 2: Brandley Chubb, they traded for u uh uh jay Ram.
Speaker 1: They they traded for Tyreek, they paid to up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they did over all in. They did they did.
Speaker 2: With Phillips, they had Collams Campbell. I mean, what else
Speaker 2: can it do that?
Speaker 6: That's small, that small window of opportunity.
Speaker 1: It just didn't you.
Speaker 2: You basically got a two to three year when you
Speaker 2: go all in, you basically three years. You see what
Speaker 2: the Rams did when they went all in. They traded
Speaker 2: for von Miller, They had a Leonard Floyd. They make
Speaker 2: the trade for Matthew Stafford. You go get an Odell.
Speaker 2: You you got Ramed. Okay, we got a too. We
Speaker 2: got a two three year window because then we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to break it up and have to retool it
Speaker 2: another way.
Speaker 6: So hey, they capitalize though, and it worked.
Speaker 2: You draft, you draft the Pookah, you get get Kiren Williams,
Speaker 2: you go get Burst, you go get the other guy
Speaker 2: on the other side. You see how they they rebuild
Speaker 2: it up. That's what that's what they.
Speaker 6: Have to do the right way.
Speaker 5: But it's easier for them because they already got they
Speaker 5: got the most important piece. The quarterback is already set
Speaker 5: in place. Once you got the most important piece, hell,
Speaker 5: it's easy to build from there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, O, Joe Isaiah Rodgers had a bad day on
Speaker 2: the football field. They gave him a seventy nine yard
Speaker 2: touchdown to Devontae Smith. He gave up a touchdown to
Speaker 2: uh A J. Brown and his d ms were on
Speaker 2: was on floe, but nothing calls him deserved it. Look
Speaker 2: at what he said. Uh we got it up on
Speaker 2: the screen. Go effing it, face you f and suck
Speaker 2: f and third down. You know it's a past. You
Speaker 2: just gave the Eagles to win. Good f face. You
Speaker 2: know with all that fail, if they really want to
Speaker 2: get up fun of your skin, you know, they go,
Speaker 2: they got they gotta put that in in there. They
Speaker 2: gotta put that, They gotta.
Speaker 1: Put that in there.
Speaker 2: Uh, you're worse than Hitler. He would have never been
Speaker 2: picked up worth a piece of crap waste of air
Speaker 2: in word again.
Speaker 5: Oh man, hey, that's funny, boy, that's funny.
Speaker 6: And listen at at this day and age has grown.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah you go, oh Joe Denny.
Speaker 2: Then he's like, all right, broke my bad, just lock
Speaker 2: in nah nah, no, no.
Speaker 1: The leader, now don't get that name.
Speaker 3: No what you.
Speaker 1: Mean all right?
Speaker 2: Just no, no, no, no, no, no, you should have
Speaker 2: just that's what you should have said at first. Yeah,
Speaker 2: come on, bro lock in nah. But you want to
Speaker 2: get all that on.
Speaker 6: You understand the climate we in. You understand the climate
Speaker 6: we in.
Speaker 5: They're fans when you're playing well, when you're not playing well,
Speaker 5: they they'll tell you, they'll tell.
Speaker 6: You and talk talk to you truly how they feel
Speaker 6: about it. Yes, that's all. It's it's it's the world
Speaker 6: we live in.
Speaker 2: But once you realize, once you realize about Joe, they
Speaker 2: applaud what you do, not who you are. You're find
Speaker 2: the mistake is that they applaud what you do, not
Speaker 2: who you are.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: And listen, they're not a fan of you. They're a
Speaker 5: fan of the team that you happen to play for exactly.
Speaker 1: And then guess what, because that's how he really feel.
Speaker 2: Because when I get up, when I get upset, the
Speaker 2: first thing that I go through when I get somebody,
Speaker 2: the first thing I ain't thinking the most.
Speaker 1: What what is the worst thing that I know?
Speaker 3: Oh? I or.
Speaker 2: That is what I do. But they try to go
Speaker 2: what what's the lowest thing? What is the most hurtful
Speaker 2: thing that I can say? But I can get a
Speaker 2: rise out of said individual.
Speaker 6: And you can get a rise now, can get a
Speaker 6: rise at it.
Speaker 1: He probably see I said Rogers.
Speaker 6: What's up?
Speaker 1: Rogers? Hey bro? What up? Bad cook? Dapping him up?
Speaker 2: I just I just don't get it.
Speaker 5: I just, I mean, I don't know how other people
Speaker 5: react to what words, stuff type. Let that stuff bother me.
Speaker 5: I could care less going one.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Did you did you get this? What did they have a?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: Did they have Twitter? And I g when you play for.
Speaker 6: The end of my career yet?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Oh okay, Yeah, I didn't care. I don't care. I
Speaker 6: don't care what you say. I understand the world we
Speaker 6: live in.
Speaker 5: I understand, even though you can't see it, the way
Speaker 5: people feel.
Speaker 2: It's still out there. Oh yeah, for sure, and understand that. Well,
Speaker 2: they got what they gotta, they gotta, they gotta. They
Speaker 2: got a black car, that have unlimited access to say
Speaker 2: whatever you want to. Now, in the climate that we're
Speaker 2: in now, whereas divisive as we've ever been as a country,
Speaker 2: I don't see it getting any better on the horizon.
Speaker 2: I stay in my lane. I ain't got tie in
Speaker 2: arguing with y'all. I'm not going back and forth with y'all.
Speaker 2: I know how y'all feel about me. I'm gonna stay in.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it moving. Go ahead, but I've been
Speaker 2: very I've been very blessed. O Jo is that when
Speaker 2: I've traveled, and you and I both travel a lot
Speaker 2: of work, everybody is great. I haven't met without one person.
Speaker 2: It's the people that hide behind their computer screen. You know,
Speaker 2: everybody got everybody got thumb muscles.
Speaker 6: What kind of muscles?
Speaker 1: Thumb muscles? Because they tighted real, real tough.
Speaker 6: That's funny.
Speaker 1: Damn man, Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I know what I did was wrong and I should
Speaker 2: never done that. Why you shouldn't have done so? Now
Speaker 2: your boss might see that. It might cost you your job.
Speaker 6: Change your tone up real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah he didn't put your name.
Speaker 6: Oh he lucky.
Speaker 5: He could have been messy too. Now you gotta messy.
Speaker 2: That's but that's a part of it. It's always been
Speaker 2: a bad so think about this on Joe. That's because
Speaker 2: he played bad. You used to get this just because
Speaker 2: you were that color. Think about if he went through this.
Speaker 2: Think about what Jackie Robinson went through. Think about what
Speaker 2: all the black players went through. Think about they had
Speaker 2: a rule to end up. I ain'tn't even say. Look,
Speaker 2: but they used to be in the NFL. They wouldn't
Speaker 2: allow black players. Then but we go to We ain't
Speaker 2: gonna talk about that. O' yo think about that, just
Speaker 2: because just because I hadn't done anything.
Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to make a living.
Speaker 6: That's it. I want to feed my kids, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When he picked up the Yeah, the statement from the
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. We are disgusted by the racial slurs director
Speaker 2: that Isaiah Rogers following yesterday's game. As we have said previously,
Speaker 2: there's simply no room for racist words or action in
Speaker 2: sports or society. We support Isaiah and all players who
Speaker 2: unfortunately experienced this type of ignorant and prejudicial behavior are
Speaker 2: too often, and we ask God fans to continue to
Speaker 2: fight to eliminate racism.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yes, we've been putting out quotes and speeches and putting
Speaker 5: uh symbols.
Speaker 1: Logos and slogan O yo, love overhete and racism all
Speaker 1: that other stuff.
Speaker 2: That ain't if it ain't going nowhere, it ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2: I just how you treat how you treat me, I
Speaker 2: understand it. I know you don't like me. Okay, I ain't.
Speaker 1: We ain't got to deal with each other. We ain't
Speaker 1: got to deal with it. Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: If I know somebody doesn't like me, Why do I
Speaker 2: Why Why would I go? Why would I go to
Speaker 2: anything that that person is having? Why would I get
Speaker 2: I don't follow people that don't like me. I don't
Speaker 2: go to their page. That's what I don't get.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: Oh, you don't like something that I said you on
Speaker 2: my pain, I didn't say it. You that I don't
Speaker 2: get it. I don't and I never would. You know what,
Speaker 2: don't Joe? Everything is not meant to be understood.
Speaker 5: I mean I had to learn to understand the history
Speaker 5: of it. You know, it's not going to where I
Speaker 5: understand it. Yeah, you know, you know you have something
Speaker 5: that you You have some that are genuinely not like that,
Speaker 5: genuinely not like that, don't have a hate and a
Speaker 5: bad bone in their body.
Speaker 2: And I think, you know the thing is obviously clearly
Speaker 2: I've been I've been retired two decades, and none of
Speaker 2: this was out when I was done. But I'm not
Speaker 2: so sure I would have been on social media when
Speaker 2: I played the season. I had had a singular focus
Speaker 2: and and and you know, look, I everybody wasn't happy.
Speaker 1: Everybody's not going to be happy for you.
Speaker 2: But oh, Joe, when when you went to Pittsburgh, you
Speaker 2: expected me tell me I saw just keep it, just
Speaker 2: keep it, just keep it. Hey, We're gonna keep everything
Speaker 2: above the belt.
Speaker 1: No low blows. You ain't gonna call me in. You
Speaker 1: ain't gotta talk about my mom and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: All that ain't necessary because you and I both know
Speaker 2: if I'm walking down.
Speaker 1: The street, you ain't gonna say, hey en.
Speaker 2: All that stuff that you say on Twitter and that
Speaker 2: you're all tough about Y'all'm not gonna say dad, Y'ALLM
Speaker 2: not no, at least I haven't met anybody people. Look,
Speaker 2: can can my son take a picture with you? I mean,
Speaker 2: I get some time? Hey, bro, I don't want to
Speaker 2: take no pictures. And no, Joe, you'll see them do this,
Speaker 2: hit the thing, hit the turnaround on the camera and
Speaker 2: still try to snap it. Yes, Oh, you be sitting there,
Speaker 2: you see O Joe And all of a sudden they
Speaker 2: pretend like the pretend like they looking at something.
Speaker 1: I'm looking just like, oh ya, I'm just like this here.
Speaker 2: I'm like, really, Bro, you're not gonna ask you just
Speaker 2: gonna take it without my permission.
Speaker 1: Hey, oh Joe, I was in there.
Speaker 2: Jory was with me the other day. So this guy
Speaker 2: coming to me like, man, can I take a picture?
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, He's like, uh, I don't normally
Speaker 2: do this, so why are you doing that?
Speaker 1: I said, well, how.
Speaker 2: Many famous or semi famous people people you see in
Speaker 2: the airport?
Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody. That's why you don't do it.
Speaker 2: He makes it seem like he's just he just he
Speaker 2: walking down with day on drive and see ain't list
Speaker 2: celebrities and he passing them up.
Speaker 1: But he said, yeah, I don't normally do this.
Speaker 2: I said, well, how many you know, famous people of
Speaker 2: semi famous people you see in the airport. I've really
Speaker 2: never seen no one. I said, well, that's probably why
Speaker 2: you don't do it. A random person not gonna let
Speaker 2: you take no picture with them.
Speaker 5: So it's so funny with people. People say I normally
Speaker 5: don't do this. Well, listen, I hate to bother you.
Speaker 5: Oh hey, I hate to bother you, but I'm finna
Speaker 5: bother you anyway.
Speaker 6: Basically, yeah, just take the picture.
Speaker 2: But they wait till they get done eating. I'm just
Speaker 2: about to eat, so they getting ready to leave. O yo,
Speaker 2: I'm at the gym. They done got their work out
Speaker 2: in you mind? If I get a picture, well, let
Speaker 2: me get my work out in, like you got yours
Speaker 2: in and we get one afterwards. How you gonna get
Speaker 2: your work out in? Finish up? Then you're gonna interrupt
Speaker 2: my workout. You didn't interrupt your work out now when
Speaker 2: you was working out. Now, one time you say can
Speaker 2: you get a picture because you was focused. Don't get
Speaker 2: your work out now, I'm trying to get mine in.
Speaker 2: You mind if I get a picture.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, listen, it's blurred enough. If you catch me
Speaker 6: in public, you're good, You're good, you good.
Speaker 3: Young.
Speaker 5: I'll be having people feeling like I went to high school.
Speaker 5: Like I got people feeling like it's a goddamn high
Speaker 5: school reunion, like we went to school together. Some ship
Speaker 5: you in and out.
Speaker 6: Hey, you mess around, I don't really go around to
Speaker 6: stop me. Boy, we'll be sitting there talking for twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: M hm. I ain't got that.
Speaker 2: Kind of time because uh, we and her, we get
Speaker 2: we get from point A to point B. Jordan and I, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm in a hurry, o Joe because the last thing,
Speaker 2: I boy, I missed my flight. I mean one time
Speaker 2: we all went mister, we're coming from Houston, then we
Speaker 2: went to uh, the Salt Lake.
Speaker 1: Remember they divertsed this Sault Lake. Yes, fantaphor out of
Speaker 1: la Yes.
Speaker 2: And Shelley was on the thing. Shelley was book had
Speaker 2: already the book this on another flight. So with Shelley,
Speaker 2: you know she booked the flight. She'll book book one flight,
Speaker 2: and then after flight and then if we get that
Speaker 2: when she'll cancel. You know, he'll cancel it. But man,
Speaker 2: I was like, man, well the flights man, they got
Speaker 2: to do better than this.
Speaker 6: See you