WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: Diddy, “aka” Michael Jordan 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Wednesday, June eleventh, on what is

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<v Speaker 1>now officially the fifth week, day twenty one of testimony

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<v Speaker 1>in the Didty trial. Welcome everybody to this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and TJA, where we continue to be your one

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<v Speaker 1>stop shop to get your pot up on everything going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the Didty trial and robes. Usually when we

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<v Speaker 1>record these, we're able to say testimony is going on

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<v Speaker 1>as we're recording. This is different today than getting a

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<v Speaker 1>later start in course, so there won't be any highlights

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<v Speaker 1>to come out of it this morning, Yes, we won't.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll only have actually a very truncated afternoon session because

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<v Speaker 2>the jury has been staying late to try and get

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<v Speaker 2>in all of this insane testimony from Jane Ditty's ex girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, they're starting at one pm and he

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<v Speaker 2>said the judge said they are going to end no

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<v Speaker 2>later than four pm. They've been extending to five pm

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<v Speaker 2>some days to try and get it all in. No

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<v Speaker 2>word on why they're starting later this morning though, maybe just.

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<v Speaker 3>Giving them a little bit of a break.

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<v Speaker 1>We know there was nothing official from anybody in the

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<v Speaker 1>courtroom for is taking place. But to your point as well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's we got to point out. This is the witness

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<v Speaker 1>that's been on the stand. Now, Jane, this will be now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean tomorrow, it'll be a full week, a full

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<v Speaker 1>week that she has been on the witness stand. And

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<v Speaker 1>was she not the one they were trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of there? She had somewhere to go, something to

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<v Speaker 1>something to do.

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<v Speaker 2>They said an international flight on Thursday afternoon, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>we heard from defense attorneys yesterday saying they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>need all day tomorrow to continue their cross examination. So

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<v Speaker 2>no word if she's got like an eleven pm international flight.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes they are late at night on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>so she might be able to actually be on the

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<v Speaker 2>standard will three pm and then make her way to

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<v Speaker 2>Newark or JFK and get out of Dodge.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, that sounds crazy to do that. And look, they

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to be accommodating. A lot of people might

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<v Speaker 1>look at this and we even question, like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this important, and why with somebody's vacation or

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<v Speaker 1>international flight, whatever they have to do, shouldn't they move

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. Well, it's nice that maybe the government is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be accommodating, or the judge at least is trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To maybe Jane has learned through all of these experiences boundaries,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, hey, here's mine. I'm leaving on Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 1>And they get smack her with a Pacinka sabbena as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as they wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>To after that area, probably not good to draw your

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<v Speaker 2>first boundary with the federal goverm federal.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course we are talking about Jane again. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a very very important key witness for the prosecution. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>she is one of four victims that they are basing

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<v Speaker 1>their case against Diddy on. She is testifying under that

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<v Speaker 1>pseudonym Jane to protect her identity. She is someone who

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<v Speaker 1>was dating. I guess this is fun dating.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a very I don't know if that term is appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I thought this was good. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we got into it. The defense and talking

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<v Speaker 1>to her on the stand, said she was there for

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<v Speaker 1>love and he was there for desire, like they had

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<v Speaker 1>two different things they wanted out of that relationship. She

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<v Speaker 1>and Sean Combs, and he just wasn't to her what

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<v Speaker 1>she was to him. And she talked about continuing to

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<v Speaker 1>love this man.

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<v Speaker 2>As she's testified, and she said their relationship was private

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<v Speaker 2>versus he had public relationships while he was with her,

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<v Speaker 2>and that fueled a lot of jealousy. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>the defense is going for right now. They are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make the case that what she's testified to and

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<v Speaker 2>her anger and resentment and feelings now come from a

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<v Speaker 2>place of jealousy, not from coercion, not from anything criminal,

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<v Speaker 2>but because she was jealous.

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<v Speaker 3>She was jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>She was They are trying to portray her as some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a gold digger or a clinger on her

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, yes, that you were getting something. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>they are making the point that she was getting something

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<v Speaker 1>out of this relationship. Apparently there was something financial plenty

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<v Speaker 1>that we have gotten into. But she continues and again,

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<v Speaker 1>she was on there for several days with direct examination

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<v Speaker 1>from the prosecution, but we knew things were going to change.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to look a little different, sound a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the defense got up there and it was all

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<v Speaker 1>day a cross examination, and they kind of did do

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<v Speaker 1>what they were trying to do, chip away at this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that she couldn't get away, that she was scorse,

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<v Speaker 1>that she didn't have an option, and they did this

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<v Speaker 1>through text messages and some video messages. Excuse me, some

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<v Speaker 1>audio messages, voicemails that showed that she was sometimes a

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<v Speaker 1>willing enthusiastic and even had a say in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of what happened in these free.

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<v Speaker 2>Costs, a say in who perhaps the escorts might be,

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<v Speaker 2>certain male escorts that she liked better than others, So

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<v Speaker 2>she had choices in terms of who she was having

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<v Speaker 2>sex with in front of Ditty. But so many other

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<v Speaker 2>details came out. You talked about how the defense was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to set into record that she was a gold digger,

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<v Speaker 2>that she got something financially, significantly financially out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>She apparently went from a fourteen hundred square foot apartment

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<v Speaker 2>to a fifty three hundred square foot home paid for

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<v Speaker 2>by Ditty. One of the more contentious exchanges between Ditty's

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<v Speaker 2>defense attorneys and Jane was involving a bag. It started

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<v Speaker 2>out because I talked about that jealousy. She was jealous

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<v Speaker 2>about one of the girlfriends receiving a Chanel bag, and

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<v Speaker 2>so Ditty's attorney said, did you get a Chanelle bag

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<v Speaker 2>as a gift from Ditty? And she said no, I

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<v Speaker 2>only got trauma. But then the defense attorney pointed out

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<v Speaker 2>that she got a botakea bag what is a botakea bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Jane's response was, I'm sure you have one. The defense

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<v Speaker 2>attorney said she did not, and then she asked how

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<v Speaker 2>much does a botaga bag cost? And Jane said, how

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<v Speaker 2>much does my body cost? So there was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of contentious back and forth when I think Jane

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<v Speaker 2>realized what they were trying to imply about her.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they implied it without saying it directly, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were as close to the line as you could get.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to tell the jury, Look, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who was there willingly, she was getting all of

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<v Speaker 1>this out of it, and now she doesn't like how

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<v Speaker 1>something went, and she's telling all these wild stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they haven't gone as.

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<v Speaker 1>Far as they've gone on some witnesses and saying they're

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<v Speaker 1>not suggesting she's making necessarily things up. But the characterization

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<v Speaker 1>of her relationship from listening to her being talked to

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<v Speaker 1>by the prosecution versus being her a question by the

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<v Speaker 1>defense are two starkly different experiences, and that is what

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying. So any of that is going to what

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<v Speaker 1>confuse a duror at least give a juror some doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about the stories they're hearing. But the point being was

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<v Speaker 1>she there willingly or not. That has everything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the racketeering and the sex trafficking, the sex trafficking case.

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<v Speaker 1>That's everything it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And to that point, the defense had her read some

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<v Speaker 2>wildly explicit text messages that most news outlets reported that

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't report. It was too salacious, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>too much to put into writing. But we did get

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<v Speaker 2>a few of those that were out there, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what are we willing to even say here

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast about what some of those text messages

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<v Speaker 2>were where it showed Jane, like you said, enthusiastically participating

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<v Speaker 2>or talking about participating in upcoming freak offs.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, if folks you can go try to track these

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<v Speaker 1>down or read them yourself. But it's not I would

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<v Speaker 1>argue ropes. I think a lot of people in their

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<v Speaker 1>personal lives might talk to their.

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<v Speaker 3>Lover that way.

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<v Speaker 1>A news outlet is not used to printing some of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But I'm just trying to give a sense

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<v Speaker 1>to the listener here that you were not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>some outlandish Where did they get that? I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of that before type language. It was just crude, it

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<v Speaker 1>was vulgar. It was it was eroji, it was profane,

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<v Speaker 1>It was two people talking about having sex.

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<v Speaker 2>The point being that Jane seemed like she was really

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<v Speaker 2>into it. Yes, in her text messages.

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<v Speaker 3>Seemed it was. I mean, it was clear.

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<v Speaker 1>The same point you make about text messages that were

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<v Speaker 1>written years ago when people what was their mindset at

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<v Speaker 1>the time when they're explaining some pain they're in or

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<v Speaker 1>some trauma or experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how do you take these now?

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<v Speaker 1>If she wrote these a year, two year, three years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>does that not give her, give us, give the jury

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<v Speaker 1>an idea in real time where her head was.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it not do yes? And she claims that she

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<v Speaker 2>wrote those texts and exchanged those types of texts and

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<v Speaker 2>voicemails with Diddy because she didn't want him to feel rejected.

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<v Speaker 2>She is maintaining that she still didn't want to do

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<v Speaker 2>any of these things, but she knew the only way

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<v Speaker 2>she could see him and be around him was if

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<v Speaker 2>she agreed to it, and so she agreed to it

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<v Speaker 2>enthusiastically only to make him excited about seeing her. So

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<v Speaker 2>she was manipulating him. And she's admitting that on the

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<v Speaker 2>stand that she didn't really feel the way she said

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<v Speaker 2>she felt in those texts, she was only doing it

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<v Speaker 2>to keep him with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but does that tell the jury that she was

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<v Speaker 1>doing it consciously, yes, willingly, Yes, had a means to

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<v Speaker 1>an end. There was a purpose to what she was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So does that mean non con sexual consensual? Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was flipball co sexual.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be a new term. Actually in this was

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<v Speaker 2>it conseexual? No, we don't. We don't need any new terms.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I think that from what I read, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the defense is doing an excellent job at

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<v Speaker 2>showing the jury that she, at least in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>what Combe was receiving from her, seemed as though she

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<v Speaker 2>was not only willing but excited to participate in some

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<v Speaker 2>of these freak offs. Now, we did see other texts

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<v Speaker 2>that the the prosecution talked about in her direct testimony,

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<v Speaker 2>where she clearly was telling him she did not want

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<v Speaker 2>to do it anymore, that she felt awful about herself

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<v Speaker 2>and about the experience. So we've seen those texts too.

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<v Speaker 2>But if the defense is trying to show jurors, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>how would did he have known half the time she

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<v Speaker 2>was telling him she was into it, She was excited

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<v Speaker 2>about it, She couldn't wait to see him, She couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>wait to do all the things they had planned to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's fairly damning, I would have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she does, in her testimony over the past

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<v Speaker 1>hour day, seemed like someone who like genuinely did care

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<v Speaker 1>for this guy, and so well, she claims she still does,

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<v Speaker 1>but she says she cared enough to that point there

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<v Speaker 1>she felt responsible for him, she explained, because he was

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<v Speaker 1>revealing himself in these freak offs, in these private moments,

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<v Speaker 1>how vulnerable he was. She took them as what an

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<v Speaker 1>honor for me that he has let me into these,

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<v Speaker 1>So now I have to take care of him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in a vulnerable state, so I need to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's okay. And she went as far, she claims robe

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<v Speaker 1>as to start researching, start looking into why a man

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<v Speaker 1>would be into seeing somebody he cared about, somebody he

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<v Speaker 1>was dating have sex with another man. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting that she took it, because, to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you, I don't get it. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people don't get that particular kink or whatever it's proclivity.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. But she looked into it.

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<v Speaker 2>And she talked about that specifically on the stand, and I, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm learning things that I didn't know. She said. She

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<v Speaker 2>with her research discovered that Diddy was a cuck, which

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<v Speaker 2>is aluckl.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something we've seen now that word is out there,

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<v Speaker 1>we're used to that. Yeah, what that means, But she says,

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<v Speaker 1>she turned it into something and started using the word

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<v Speaker 1>she cuck shortened it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so she said, because a cock derives pleasure seeing

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<v Speaker 2>his woman derive pleasure from another man.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where we usually stop and go, Okay, we've

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<v Speaker 1>heard a similar definition. That makes sense, But she continued,

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<v Speaker 1>do you do have the exact quote?

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<v Speaker 2>I do? She well, She continued to say that cucks

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<v Speaker 2>could also have by curiosity that they are too ashamed

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<v Speaker 2>to ex experience themselves, so they use the woman, their

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<v Speaker 2>woman to venture or to at least explore this curiosity

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<v Speaker 2>without actually doing the act itself. So he wanted his

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<v Speaker 2>girl to have sex with another man in lieu of

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<v Speaker 2>him having sex with another man, and he derived pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>from watching that because he himself wasn't willing to have sex.

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<v Speaker 3>With the man. That is what she testified.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a direct quote you delivered, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an eye opening moment because why a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people just why look, people are into what they're into.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no judgment there.

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<v Speaker 1>Which you're doing in whatever dark room, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you're not hurting yourself or anybody else, knock yourself out.

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<v Speaker 1>But we heard repeatedly about him sitting in a corner

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<v Speaker 1>and masturbating while he watched the woman he was in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship have sex with one, two, three guys at

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<v Speaker 1>times in a night.

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<v Speaker 2>And interestingly, she testified to this that if he found

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<v Speaker 2>out that she might have been or could have been

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<v Speaker 2>hooking up with another man while he wasn't there, he

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<v Speaker 2>went into jealous rages. So it wasn't even about the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that it was something he wanted to watch. He

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to experience and that gave him sexual pleasure, which

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<v Speaker 2>is very specific, and I think a lot of light

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<v Speaker 2>bulbs went off. It made sense to me for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time because none of it really did up until

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<v Speaker 2>she described it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>It really wasn't. Oh, and who's to say if that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually the case?

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever? Did he's into? Did he's into?

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<v Speaker 1>But that gave really I am And wasn't she the

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<v Speaker 1>one that testified as well that he only wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>have sex with her after yes, watching her sex have

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<v Speaker 1>sex with That's.

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<v Speaker 2>The only way that he would want to actually have

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<v Speaker 2>sex with her is after he saw her have sex

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<v Speaker 2>with another man.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, again, these folks are into what they're into. But

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<v Speaker 1>she again, why would she keep doing this? She talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it being ninety percent of the time that they

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<v Speaker 1>were to together.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a freak off.

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<v Speaker 1>But she said this, She talked it was almost I'm

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<v Speaker 1>only able to read it, we can only read it,

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<v Speaker 1>but softly and sweetly about these intimate moments like this

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<v Speaker 1>was the time I got to be with him.

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<v Speaker 2>They said. She was smiling, smiling, and that's damning for

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecution. If she is recalling these freak offs now

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<v Speaker 2>speaking with the defense attorney under cross examination with loving

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<v Speaker 2>energy and a smile on her face. That's not a

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<v Speaker 2>victim crying and ashamed and tortured. It's the defense is

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<v Speaker 2>doing an excellent job. I think I'll just leave it

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<v Speaker 2>at that. I'm no legal expert, but certainly if you're

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<v Speaker 2>watching this as a layman, that is what jurors are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're not legal experts either. So actually, the way

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<v Speaker 2>we're watching this, the way we're reading this is I think,

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<v Speaker 2>probably a decent idea of what a lot of jurors

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<v Speaker 2>may be thinking and feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>The only upside we are getting is we do have

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<v Speaker 1>the advantage of we can go look up and we

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<v Speaker 1>can go talk to legal experts to break this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>down for us, who are telling us that, yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>defense has been doing a good job with his winners.

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<v Speaker 1>The juror doesn't have anybody to break it down for them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not supposed to read, watch, talk nothing about this trial,

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<v Speaker 1>so they have to do your point. They are as

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<v Speaker 1>lay as lay people get. They get no by you

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<v Speaker 1>to tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not sequestered. Right. I can't even imagine you are

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<v Speaker 2>now sitting on the biggest case the world is watching,

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<v Speaker 2>and the details are as salacious as any trial I

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<v Speaker 2>have ever seen. Get and you're not talking to anyone

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<v Speaker 2>about it. That seems wild.

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<v Speaker 3>You think you could come home to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody tells one person. That's my theory, No matter what,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what secret you're told at work or by

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<v Speaker 2>your best friend or whatever, everyone tells one person, and

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<v Speaker 2>usually it's the person you're in a relationship with, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that person tells one person.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially that means everybody's going to help.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just that's just my, yes, non expert opinion about

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<v Speaker 2>how things are past life and around.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, this is the last one. You'll see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of headlines about this. But we'll just tell you again

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<v Speaker 1>the trifecta. Yes, they've talked. We almost know the names.

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<v Speaker 1>That was what the punisher? That was Anton. There's a Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a Don, there's a Sly. Why in God's name

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<v Speaker 1>am I right now able to reel off the names

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<v Speaker 1>of that many male escorts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because there's Cabral too. Don't forget about Cara.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to save Cabral for the Big Nights.

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<v Speaker 2>So was the showstopper. Oh yeah, he was the grand

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<v Speaker 2>finale and the game over situation, the big boom. These

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<v Speaker 2>are all the names that they were giving Cabral.

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<v Speaker 1>Cabral also the one that tried to blackmail them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who which which name was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get I thought you thought it was Anton, but maybe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was Anton is a dependable fellow.

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<v Speaker 2>There he was reoccurring.

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<v Speaker 1>But at this one about all these male escorts, they

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<v Speaker 1>had one in particular that they really liked. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Paul, and I said the three of them did.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Jane had such a good chemistry going that

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<v Speaker 1>they call themselves the Trifecta. They had a nickname for themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did I don't know if it's role playing,

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<v Speaker 1>is it the right way to say it, but they

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<v Speaker 1>did a little something which they had names for each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So Jane was Kobe, Paul was Shack, and Diddy

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<v Speaker 2>was Jordan. I gut as in as in yes as Kobe, Bryan,

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<v Speaker 2>Shaquille O'Neal and Michael Jordan. Sorry, I didn't think those

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<v Speaker 2>names needed clarification, but just in case, fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you would hear that and go, wait, what, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not really talking about Wait what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it just in name? There was like and again

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I want a visual, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just curious the basketball. The reason why they used basketball

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<v Speaker 2>grades we was just because they're goats, because they're amazing

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<v Speaker 2>at what they do, and so that's why they took

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<v Speaker 2>on those names. I don't I can't imagine how role

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<v Speaker 2>playing would come into play when it came to having sex.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I don't want to know. Actually into it might

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<v Speaker 2>ruin basketball for me, or might ruin sex for.

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<v Speaker 1>You, could be far worse. I don't get it. Look

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<v Speaker 1>we are. There has been a horrific testimony and details

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<v Speaker 1>in this trial, but some of these things you really

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<v Speaker 1>just your jaws drop. You're not supposed to know this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff about somebody's life. Again, knock yourself out, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>just not supposed to know. That's the one that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get a lot up and has been getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of headlines. Why Diddy wanted to call himself Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan during a threesome with his girlfriend and another man,

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<v Speaker 1>a man that he was referring to as who was

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<v Speaker 1>shack again?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, Shaq was Paul? I think, yes, Shaq was Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's Kobe.

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<v Speaker 1>And that detail came out and it's one that all

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<v Speaker 1>the reporters in the room immediately wrote about.

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<v Speaker 2>It was headline grabbing for sure, and that wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>clickbait because there was truth to it. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those headlines where you think, nah, this can't

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<v Speaker 2>be real, and lo and behold it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's one you didn't have to try on. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to try to come up with something clever,

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<v Speaker 1>just right, the headline, did he used to call himself

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan during sex?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So cross examination continues today for a couple hours and

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<v Speaker 2>then reportedly all day tomorrow, So we'll see where the

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<v Speaker 2>defense goes. But certainly they have I think they've done

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<v Speaker 2>what they've accomplished or what they set out to do.

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<v Speaker 2>They've accomplished what they set out to do, which was

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<v Speaker 2>to certainly bring a question into juror's minds as to

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not Jane was there willingly and profited handsomely,

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<v Speaker 2>handsomely for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, as she testifies again today, her rent is

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<v Speaker 1>being paid by the defendant, Her attorney's fees are being

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<v Speaker 1>paid by the defendant. Didty is still paying for all

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<v Speaker 1>that with her? Again, that's got to be something that

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<v Speaker 1>stands out in juror's minds one way or another.

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<v Speaker 3>How don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And she reiterated that she loves him still and that

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<v Speaker 2>also has to have an impact on jurors as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So we will continue to give you all the updates

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<v Speaker 2>what happens in this Manhattan courtroom today and the days

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<v Speaker 2>that follow. Thank you, though for listening to us, and

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<v Speaker 2>we hope you have a wonderful day. Everybody