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Speaker 1: Welcome back Cole Jackson. Of two guys watching football on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: been well said that the Ravens got so much value

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Speaker 1: coming into a good situation to welcome into the lounge

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Speaker 1: presented by DraftKings. We're still kind of breaking down the

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Speaker 1: draft a little bit now before we turn the page

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Speaker 1: completely after rookie minicamp into O t A s uh

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Speaker 1: so today we have a special treat And you know,

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Speaker 1: Gary and I obviously experts and all things Ravens. Yes,

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Speaker 1: clearly yes. And when I say all things, I mean

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Speaker 1: all except for film for film, except for the film breakdown.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're just we're geared differently. I would say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll take the big picture approach. Share that's

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Speaker 1: the thing, YU YUCKX approach. You gotta go big picture.

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Speaker 1: take the big picture approach. You just look at everything

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Speaker 1: and that's that's what I do, and you'res just the

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Speaker 1: yuck yucks approach. I don't actually say this on a

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Speaker 1: serious note. One thing that's um really been cool to

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Speaker 1: you see people that have these like really niche kind

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Speaker 1: film breakdowns, uh, you know, pre draft or even during

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Speaker 1: the season of games. Ken mccusk is another guy. You know.

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of people out there. I won't

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Speaker 1: short changed. Um, but like big props. Honestly, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I just love seeing passionate people do things they're passionate about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I also think that the conversation and the the I

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Speaker 1: and trying to bring it reality in a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you're feeling like there's too much of an elevated

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Speaker 1: like that just kind of the availability of media and

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Speaker 1: who is uh built a niche and looking at tape

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Speaker 1: time on it. Yeah, like props. Yeah, listeners will remember

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Speaker 1: we had Cole on right before the combine to kind

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Speaker 1: We'll get into all that, but yeah, I'm totally with you.

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Speaker 1: over the last few years. So let's jump into an

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Speaker 1: interview with Cole Jackson. Well, we are thrilled to welcome

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Speaker 1: back Cole Jackson of two Guys watching football on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Cole is a film breakdown analyst expert. Uh, and we

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Speaker 1: brought him on here to talk about the entire Ravens

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Speaker 1: two class. Uh Sicole, welcome back man. Thanks a lot, guys,

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Speaker 1: I've never been called an expert. Boom boom. Should we

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Speaker 1: go next time you come back? The third time you

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Speaker 1: get guru? Yeah, Well, you know, Cole, for years, I've

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Speaker 1: just saying, well, I just watch the YouTube highlights line

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Speaker 1: I guess thank you, and you and me an apology

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Speaker 1: for that, because now you make him sound smarter. So

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Speaker 1: both those things are true. I'm putting endorsed by Ryan Nate.

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Speaker 1: There we go, There we go. All right, so Cole,

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Speaker 1: he's at He's at you, Colin, He's getting triple team.

429
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Speaker 1: I got I got a picture right there against Clemson

430
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 1: where he literally had all three interior offensive lineman one

431
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 1: play um. The amount of attention he took um was insane.

432
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: And you know, he's a very fun player. He's that

433
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: kind of new age nose tackle. I think he can

434
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: do some three tech work, but it's kind of that

435
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 1: new age nose tackle that can be the pocket pusher

436
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: as well as a good run defender. He stacks offensive

437
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: lineman really well, uh and is able to kind of

438
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: use his line. He's got good length for an interior

439
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, so he's able to stack guys, peek the

440
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: run play, and make plays off of him. I think

441
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: he One thing that I know is watching his tape.

442
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 1: He plays with a very narrow base on pass rushing

443
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: downs and it almost looks like an edge player, which

444
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: really speaks to how fluid of an athlete he is.

445
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: It's really hard for those big guys that kind of

446
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: narrow their base, just see them a little bit wider,

447
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: because you know they're just not as fluid in their

448
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: lower body. So uh, and it looks like he came

449
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: into camp u o t as should say, I think

450
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: ten pounds down, which is also really exciting and why

451
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: I think he might be able to do more three

452
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: tech then I think he was giving credit for UH

453
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: and I think it's relevant to point out that Yukon

454
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: he actually played more in the B gap than in

455
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: the A gap, so he's kind of already used to

456
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: that UM. But again, a guy that I could see

457
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: being an impact guy in a healthy dealing rotation works

458
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: really well with Michael Pearce and Justin Matt a b

459
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,479
Speaker 1: K because I think he can provide relief duties at

460
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: both spots and create a nice rotation of pass rushers

461
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: on the inside, but his ability to get under guy's

462
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: pads drive them back push the pocket. It popped in

463
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: the senior bullet popped on tape. I thought he showed

464
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: a nice development of his pass prush repertoire. He has

465
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: a nasty swim moved for an interior guy UM as

466
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: well as a bull rip and I think those pieces

467
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: are going to have to become more consistent. But they're

468
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: all evident on tape and it's just a huge get

469
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: in the prodground like such gray value nice. So so

470
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a huge coal doesn't get

471
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: any bigger than Daniel Filele Okay, so who the Ravens

472
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: drafted in the fourth round. You know, with him the Ravens,

473
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: if all things go according to plan, you know, he

474
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: won't necessarily play much as a rookie. Ronnie Stanley will

475
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: be back. You got Morgan Moses at right tackle and

476
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: Linder bombas center. But they drafted him because he's a

477
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: massive player who could end up being you know, last

478
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: time they drafted a guy in that mold, obviously it

479
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: was Orlando Brown and he turned out to be a

480
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player. So in your mind when you've looked

481
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Speaker 1: at his tape, like how NFL ready is he if

482
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: he did have to step in as as a rookie.

483
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: You know, we all saw last year the tackle depth

484
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: is something that you can't have enough of and it

485
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: really hurts you if you don't have it. So if

486
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: he were to have to step in this season, Like,

487
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: how NFL ready do you think he is? Based on

488
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: his college tape, I think he's an NFL ready run blocker. Um.

489
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: He the way he leans down on guys and on

490
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: his dawn block opportunities, it's it's just insane, Like he

491
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: has a pretty good pad level in the run game

492
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: and for a guy that big, I mean, he's so

493
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: blind that like its he just constantly moves guys. And

494
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: his athleticism is really what popped to me, especially in

495
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: the run game. There's a clip that I highlighted in

496
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: my film breakdown of him of him perfectly mirroring Micah

497
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: Parsons in an open field when he was played side

498
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: on outside zone in twenty nine team when they played

499
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: Penn and State. Love that game too, because I mean,

500
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: you got that twenty nineteen State defense was stacked and

501
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: falal A had a great game in the Mount one Um.

502
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of what's exciting about him

503
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: is you know, coming into a run heavy offense, he's

504
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: kind of a pro ready run blocker. So it's a

505
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: good fit, which I think was a resounding theme of

506
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: this draft class. So many of these guys are coming

507
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: into good situations here in Baltimore with this fun and

508
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: uh it's his past protection that I think it's going

509
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: to need the most of the work, and specifically his

510
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: use of a vertical set. At Minnesota, and they didn't have,

511
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: especially post Rashad Bateman, they didn't have a you know,

512
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: a very good passing game, so they were kind of

513
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: a run first offense and used a lot of play action,

514
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: so you're just not getting those reps. And he's already

515
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: it's only been playing football for five years and so

516
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: it's in an offense where he's not really being asked

517
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: to do vertical sets. And that's what Orlando Brown Junior

518
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: mastered and what made him kind of the player he was.

519
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: And you kind of I think everyone saw there's that

520
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: tweet of Orlando Brown Jr. Retweeting the thought about or

521
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: Falley developing his vertical set, and he was like one

522
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's just like kind of cool because

523
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: the path is successed for Daniel Flalley being knowledge by

524
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,239
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown Jr. Is kind of the same development of

525
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: that vertical set where he can square guys up. I

526
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: think he's just fluid enough to do it. It's all

527
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: gonna be about how can how low can he keep

528
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: his pad level consistently? Being six ft nine is just

529
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: natural leverage, Um, how quickly can he get to a

530
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: set point and deploying his length. He's got thirty five

531
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: ant arms, which is freakish. Um. So it really is

532
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown Jr. Like I think Orlando Brown Junior coming

533
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: out was a lot more technical, and so that's gonna

534
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: be the learning curve that where Junior was kinda once

535
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: he took over after the bye week in tight team,

536
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: he was kind of you know, locked in and constant starter.

537
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: Falle has a bigger learning for it because he just

538
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: didn't do that type of stuff. Um So masters, vertical set,

539
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: sky's the limit for this game. What I'm interested in

540
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: him is John Harball said, yeah, he's gonna play as

541
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: a rookie, and maybe you know that could be taking

542
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: over for Morgan Moses at right tackle at some point

543
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: during the season. Right, I mean having Morgan Moses even

544
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: if he were your third tackle and he were kind

545
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: of your swing guy, isn't a bad spot, right depends

546
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: on Filele's um you know, progression and development. Well, he's

547
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: gonna because as a fullbacking too. Um. But I guess

548
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: my question is, you know, could could the Ravens see

549
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: him as a potential left guard? You know, does does

550
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: he like, is there any possibility of that? Like when

551
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: John says he's gonna play as a rookie like that, confidently,

552
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Well, where you know it's gonna be

553
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: the extra linement. But don't know. I I remember when

554
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: he said that, and I was like, what's he talking about,

555
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: because I don't think that it's a good fit. And

556
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: it's mostly because it's tide level um And I mean,

557
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: on the other hand, you did see Jonathan Ogden, but

558
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: it's also Jonathan Ogden, so maybe not the best example

559
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: to do a comparison, but he did play left guard

560
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: at six ft nine. But it's just tough for these

561
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: guys that are that tall, that have that natural leverage

562
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: for them to get low. It's kind of the funny

563
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: thing when you read scouting reports on guys I call,

564
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: it's like, doesn't play with great pad level. It's like, well, yeah,

565
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: he's six ft nine, I mean ben so um, so

566
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: I think there's that aspect. But I did wonder Morgan

567
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: Moses in two and a half games and left tackle.

568
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: That's how I took it. I kind of wondered if

569
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: they saw, you know, Moses verse Philele, but Jwan James

570
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: sprinkled in there as kind of a can't battle it

571
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: right tackle. But maybe Moses is the guy Dame vision

572
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: as that swing tackle the left side as Ronnie works

573
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: his way back and then you have Patrick mccarrey kind

574
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: of worked in there. And that's the fun thing. What

575
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: I just described is they went from the oh my god,

576
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens need offensive tackle off now we have the

577
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: five offensive tackle options, contingency plans are in place. It's

578
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: gotta be exciting for the team kind of going into

579
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, that was kind of how I took

580
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: it was was that injuries happened. You never essentially make

581
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: it through an entire season that this guy is gonna

582
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: play exactly. I gonna say he's gonna play, and he'll

583
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: probably play at some point out there and where that is,

584
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, remains to be seen. So all right, keeping

585
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: moving in the fourth round of your take on the

586
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: two corners, that's kind of group the group these guys

587
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: together here with Jalen Armour Davis out of Alabama and

588
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: then to Mary and Williams Peppett Pepe, Williams Pepe. I'm

589
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: not sure if you knew that, Uh believe it's just Peppett.

590
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: It's like the first and last name. Okay, okay, okay,

591
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: lebron um, But what are your take on these two guys?

592
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: I love Jaylon Armer Davis such a Ravens fit. You know,

593
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: we can kind of think of, you know, Anthony Avert

594
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: out the door entered jailing armor Davis what a natural transition.

595
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that as the same player. They do

596
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: have some similar strengths of weaknesses. I think bad mccarnor's

597
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: fit really well, and the Ravens defensive scheme saving plays

598
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: a lot of that kind of cover one where or

599
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: cover one cover three where they're being asked to do

600
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: a lot of pressed on the other side, and that's

601
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: where you kind of see the Ravens being asked to do.

602
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: And Ravens love big long corners. Um that and jaylan

603
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: Armur Davis has really nice athleticism. I think it didn't

604
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: always He kind of struggled with his lateral mobility and

605
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: he had stiffer hips, so when you kind of had

606
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: to turn and do that long run, I think he

607
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: got beat deep a couple of times. Um that was

608
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: really the only thing that kind of stood out to me.

609
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: But very similar to uh Anthony Averett Everitt wasn't as big,

610
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: but some similar strengths and weaknesses. So I think that's

611
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: really exciting. And then when you look at I guess

612
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: I'll call him Pepper. I didn't know that. I just

613
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: leaned some today. So that's the kind of thing that

614
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: we we instruct you on that you give us the

615
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: film breakdown, we give you the names. Yeah, it's the

616
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: three dynamic three years exactly. So with the Marian again,

617
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: talk about a Ravens fit scrappy on the on the

618
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, as he played a lot of wide

619
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: corner last year, but when he did play in the slot,

620
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: I think that's really where the Ravens probably envisioned him

621
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: as kind of that slot corner of the piece that

622
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: they're replacing team on young Um and he plays just

623
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: kind of like people loved Young because he's so scrappy.

624
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: He's able to kind of body guys who's made tackles.

625
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: He wasn't wasn't afraid to get his nose in there,

626
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: and that's what you kind of see from from Williams.

627
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: He's got really nice quickness going laterally, should fit really

628
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: well in the slot. And then when you look at

629
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: kind of the way the Ravens can play matchups, you know,

630
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: Kyle Hambleton's could be that kind of slot corner that

631
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, or even Marlon Humphrey where they're kind of

632
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: dealing with bigger, physical, big slots like the Keenan Allen's

633
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: of the world playing the slot in the NFL now,

634
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: but when there's still those short, little quick guys you

635
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: know that give you Julian Edelman nightmares. Um. And that's

636
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: where I think to Mary, Williams really fits in. That

637
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: guy that can play sideline to sideline quickness. Um. He's

638
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: there's some incidents of him getting beat deep. He's definitely

639
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: quicker than fast um, and I think he kind of

640
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: loses grammar once he gets beat deep. But scrappy, physical

641
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: guy that just fits so well and what the Ravens

642
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Speaker 1: look for in slot. Then I don't want to go

643
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Speaker 1: back a little bit to Kyle Hamilton's And you kind

644
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: of mentioned this, you know, the Keenan Allen or or

645
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: maybe even it's a Chase Claypool, you know, the kind

646
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: of that bigger slot receiver. Sometimes you see Kyle being

647
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: fast enough to kind of just line up one on

648
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: one with them in the slot and run with those guys.

649
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a tough transition, so

650
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: you might not see it right away. I think they'll

651
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: probably ask him to do when they bring him down

652
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: into the box. I think they'll kind look at him

653
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: as a tight end guy. But that's where I see

654
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: him developing. UM. And that's how Notre Dame used him.

655
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of those slot snaps were on

656
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: wide receivers UM. And again, I think his place beings

657
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: good enough that he can get there. It's gonna be

658
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: a huge adjustment because I think the biggest concerned you'd

659
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: have kyl of Hamilton as like a slot corner. And

660
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: I know sometimes people are like, well he's a safety,

661
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: how it can be a slot corner. A lot of

662
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: these safeties kind of come down and handle those matchup

663
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 1: duders UM. And that's how I see him. He's kind

664
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Speaker 1: of that matchup guy that helps out, can push you know,

665
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey back inside if they have a different it'side

666
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: corner on the field makes sense of jail and Everard

667
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Davis comes along really quickly. UM. So I think those skills,

668
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be about how much quicker can he get

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Speaker 1: as a player. How can he transition that um into

670
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: his into his game. But I think the ability is there.

671
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of down the road, but it's there, right, Okay,

672
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: so let's move to the tight ends. Charlie Kohler and

673
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely. Uh, I mean Cohler seems like Mark Andrews,

674
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: like two point oh kind of Mark Andrews. It's baby

675
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. That's what we should call baby Mark. And

676
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: we like to just kind of set low expectations here,

677
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: all right, for you're gonna be the next to Orlando Brown.

678
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: It is kind of crazy how they signed, they drafted

679
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: all these guys that were like they had previous Verst

680
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: similar cops. Yeah, Anthony Averett, Tavon Young, Um, now Likely

681
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of his own guy. I don't know really

682
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: who to compare him to pick up kind of I

683
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: don't know, what do you what do you see with

684
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: those two tight ends? I kind of saw a little

685
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: bit of Hayden Arst in his game and color or

686
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 1: or which one which one for him? Like okay, Charlie cooler, Um,

687
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: it was so fun and cooler to talk about, Like

688
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: how much you've watched Mark Andrew's hold on that's always

689
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: just a cool story. And now he shows up into

690
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: his first NFL room and wow, there's Mark Andrews. I

691
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: just love those little backstories. That's what I think they

692
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: saw in col Is, Like you know, they kind of

693
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: did it last year with Josh Oliver where they looked

694
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: at more of a typical y tight end. And so

695
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: they bring in Cohler, who's kind of like seeing I

696
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 1: think as the depth piece and the way cooler one

697
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: a lot when he plays above the ramedy has a

698
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: basketball background. When he plays above the ramy's dominant, and

699
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: so it's kind of one of those guys that I

700
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: think can make an impact in the red zone. Um,

701
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: I do wonder how early he can get on the

702
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: field just because Mark Andrews is there and Mark market

703
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: Krews you know. Um, so that's gonna be Again. It's

704
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: a good situation though, where you're building depth, you're allowing

705
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: guys to kind of work together to develop the younger guys. Um.

706
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: And it benefits the Ravens because God forbid, knock on

707
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: wood if if any if Andrews goes down for an

708
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: extended period, they now have that kind of natural fit

709
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: as a why that can work in the slot as well.

710
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: And that's what I think they seem cooler transition into

711
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: Isaiah likely Um, he does remind me of a typical

712
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: move tight end a lot of stuff Hayden hursted, especially

713
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: in that twenty nine ten offense um. You know, he

714
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: kind of works as an F and EU does a

715
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: lot of stuff off motion. He ran will routes quite

716
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: a bit at Coastal Carolina. I think he had like

717
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: a fifteen point five yards per catch, and that's just

718
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: his ability to his athleticism when he gets matched up

719
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: on linebackers when he can work. Seems he was doing

720
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: a lot of wheel routs out on the outside, very

721
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: fluid but very physical, and I think that's the thing

722
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: that's not getting talked about enough with likely. They used

723
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: his move abilities to get them out in space against

724
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: dps and second second level players like linebackers, and they

725
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: just asked him to kind of be that lead blocker.

726
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't think people are kind of acknowledging enough how

727
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: much that fits for the Ravens when they run option

728
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: concepts and leave guys on block, So they'll leave guys

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Speaker 1: up at the line of scrimmage on block. They'll use

730
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Speaker 1: art releases from tight ends, art releases from the tackle

731
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Speaker 1: on the place side to get into the second level

732
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: and open those scenes. That's what Nick Boyle does so well.

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00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: He's Thomlinson do it well. Um, And I think likely

734
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: is very underrated. He's not getting a lot of credit

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00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: as a blocker. I don't think he's gonna come in

736
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: and be an inline Nick Boyle or a card type blocker.

737
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: That's not his game. But the best thing, and my

738
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: buddy Michael Crawford says it, the best Greg Roman will

739
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: find you someone from block put you in that position,

740
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: and so I think that's the best fit here is

741
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, using him on a jet motion and then

742
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: kind of leaking him into the secondary while they run

743
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: a beer concept and Lamar has taken off and there's

744
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: likely springing it damn Field. I think there's just a

745
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: lot of ways to use him. So move tight end, um.

746
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: I think you can play a little bit in the slot,

747
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: but I really think his ability to kind of move

748
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: around the formation, which the Ravens do so well, that's

749
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: one of Greg Roman's biggest strength with his tight end usage. Um.

750
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: So I think that's what I see as his path

751
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: as his go be honest with us, when you were

752
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: going through this process and preparing for the draft, did

753
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: you watch any punter tape? Were you watching any Jordan

754
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: stal highlights during this process. No, but I could see

755
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: that a lot of Ravens fans apparently did horizon Um

756
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: because because that was the thing, right, it was, you

757
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: know matter rise. I had the boom leg where he's

758
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: punting in seventy yards and there's no hang time, but

759
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: it's going to seveny yards. But I think that was definitely.

760
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm not the one you don't want me scouting your punchers,

761
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: but I do do the research and look into these

762
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: guys and obviously seeing the accuracy, the ability to hang

763
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: the ball out force inside the twenty fair catches, huge

764
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: strength of stots. He also has some of the best

765
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: flow on the team. Loves his bio. Pick I noticed

766
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: the same thing yesterday, like just his like bio. I

767
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, he's got like the man bun

768
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: with the long hair kind of. I was, yeah, he's

769
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: got the look down. You know, it's a lot of

770
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: sweat for punter. All right, let's we'll let you out

771
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: here on the last pick here, uh Cole Tyler batty Um.

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00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: Look when the Ravens drafted him, and I look at

773
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: the stats. I've said this before, like I'm just like,

774
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: how did this guy in the sec with you know,

775
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: big production last until the sixth round. What was your

776
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: take on him and do you think he is something

777
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: that can make an impact on this offense as a rookie.

778
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: I I do because I seen him being used as

779
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: a pass catcher, um, And so I think the biggest thing,

780
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: and we saw this last year with Tyson Williams, with

781
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: these young running backs the biggest way to get them

782
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: on the field early is to excel in past protection.

783
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: And so I think there's examples on his film of

784
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: Beatty kind of you know, miss ideing and those are

785
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: things that I think would come but you don't see

786
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: an unwilling blocker. And I think that's a huge value

787
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: add for him. He kind of reminds me a lot

788
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: of Tarik Cohen in that way where we can be

789
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: a contributor in the past game as a pass protector.

790
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: I think you'll get there and I need some development,

791
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: but as an ability to kind of get out um

792
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: in the slot, even do some motion stuff with the

793
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Ravens like to do with running backs. UM. I see

794
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: kind of that immediately being a value for the offense.

795
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: And I mean you might see Dobbins and Edwards come

796
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: back a little over um. You know, who knows when

797
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: they're going to kind of make an immediate impact, and

798
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: maybe the Ravens spend September working them in and maybe

799
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of Mike David being a lot of the

800
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: running work using Betty as a pass catcher. Um always tough. Yeah,

801
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: And and that's what I think is so exciting about him,

802
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: especially when we talk about Tyler Linderball making an impact

803
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: on the screen game. Let's get beat out there in

804
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: space from linder Bomb blocking form. I think that's really exciting.

805
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: So getting him in the sixth round was crazy. I

806
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: really I never in my wildest dream that I think

807
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: he fall that far, but I kept saying that all weekend,

808
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: So I mean that was the story of the Ravens draft.

809
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: But I like I like him a lot um. I

810
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: think I'm a little rower on him the most as

811
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: a between the tackle runner um just because of his size.

812
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: But he does have really good contact balance. So again,

813
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: if the Ravens want to unlocks own concepts, get him

814
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: outside the tackle, I can see I'll also see, you know,

815
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: just an additional skill set. It's kind of like you know,

816
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: J K. Dobbins can do it all. Edwards is a

817
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: hammer and then baby's kind of your lightning. I you

818
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: can kind of see the three work together. Nice, nice,

819
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: very cool. Well, thank you, Cole, We really appreciate it.

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00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: For all of our listeners out there, make sure you

821
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: check out Cole Jackson, follow him on Twitter, and you

822
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: can also find him on YouTube at two Guys watching Football.

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Speaker 1: Thanks like Cole, you you you know what, We'll give

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Speaker 1: you the early you don't even have to make it

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Speaker 1: to a third episode after. Yeah, it was well done.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Okay, so going there you go,

827
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you guys so much. All right, thank

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Speaker 1: you see it all right, Well, great stuff from Cole.

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Speaker 1: Well done? Uh so, yeah it was. It was great

847
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: to hear from Cole Um. Obviously, I always like his

848
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: breakdown on the offensive line. I think he spends a

849
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: lot of time in that area in particular. Um and

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Speaker 1: it was you know the line D line. I think

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Speaker 1: the trench work is it Also, the trench work is,

852
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: in all honesty, I think the most difficult to assess,

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00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: just as a fan as you're watching the game. Like

854
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: if you see a guy get at corner, you can

855
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: be like that guy got burned. I saw that. That

856
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: was easy to assess. Or a guy makes a great

857
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: play as a receiver. So the trench work is always

858
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: difficult to assess when you're talking about third or fourth

859
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: round picks. And so it was. It was really good

860
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: to get his insight on that. Yeah, I like the

861
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: stuff about Kyle Hamilton's you know. The only thing that

862
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: I was you know, we were running out of time

863
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: a little bit because you had to get to a meeting,

864
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: was that, uh, you know, he talked about how Kyle

865
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: Hamilton's in a good position, um when it's starting out,

866
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: because like he just feels like it's simplified kind of.

867
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, he was saying that he

868
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: plays all these multiple spots. So I think what he

869
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: was saying was that he did that at Notre Dame

870
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: and they're gonna use him in Baltimore very similar to

871
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: the way they used him in Notre Dame. But but

872
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: that's a lot of different spots, right, And if you're

873
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: playing slot in in the NFL, I think there's a

874
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: lot more responsibilities necessarily than there are in college. My guess,

875
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: once again, I'm just dumbing down this conversation because I'm dumb, um,

876
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: But like you know what I mean, Like, I just

877
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: feel like the game is elevated obviously at the NFL level, um,

878
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: And if they're playing Kyle Hamilton's in a lot of

879
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: different spots. And he said this after rookie minicamp. He

880
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: was like, it's harder than I expected, Kyle, And I

881
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: appreciated that from him, like it was very honest. And

882
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: fourth where he's like, yeah, this is tough, you know,

883
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: and um, especially when you're bouncing around to multiple spots

884
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: like he is. And now the Ravens like to throw

885
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: the rookies in the deep end and kind of you know,

886
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: hit him with a lot of information then play catch

887
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: up in a way. Um, And I think maybe they're

888
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: doing that with Kyle Hamilton's but it's just interesting and

889
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: I'm still curious to see exactly how he'll be deployed. Yeah,

890
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, that was kind of

891
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: part of my question to Cole is you know, when

892
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: you hear that a guy plays all these different positions,

893
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: what does that really mean? Is that a good thing

894
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: or a bad thing? And then do you do you

895
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of do you how how does that translate to you?

896
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: Hone in one position? You kind of get that down

897
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: or do you do a little bit of everything all

898
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: the and that's your that is your position. And so

899
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: I think that how the Ravens use him well kind

900
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: of depend on how quickly he picks it up. I

901
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: think it will depend on you know, as you mentioned,

902
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: there's been speculation about whether the Ravens part ways with

903
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: Chuck Clark. Certainly that they would if they were to

904
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: part ways with him, then that would change things in

905
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: a pretty big way. So he is incredibly talented and

906
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: physically gifted, so like and and I thought he made

907
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: a great point, which is one of the same points

908
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,959
Speaker 1: that that Joe Ortiz made when he did that film

909
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: breakdown session, is like his processing speed is very high,

910
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: like that he just picks up things quickly. You can

911
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: see that on tape, you can see that on the field,

912
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: and that is going to help allow him to make

913
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: that transition easily. You know what else I think that

914
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: people don't really talk about, and there's been a lot

915
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: of discussion about his speed, is just how much his

916
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: length allows him to maybe not necessarily be the four

917
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: or four guy in speed, Like he just hawks people

918
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: down because he's so long, you know what I mean.

919
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: It's like it's just kind of crazy. Like you know,

920
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: if you have a five ft ten guy running really

921
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: fast and a six ft forward dude, dude doesn't have

922
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: to run. It's like me and you in a race,

923
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: like you're slow but you have these long legs, so

924
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: you cover ground. I'm just a graceful athlete. You're just

925
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: so slow, but you're long. That's your daddy long legs.

926
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: I'm a graceful athlete. Me and Kyle Hamilton's You're going

927
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: to become Daddy long Like right now, you're just long legs.

928
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: Eventually you're gonna graduate. Yes, exactly, I'm gonna earn that nickname.

929
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: Um so yeah, I thought I thought that was I

930
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: thought that was interesting. Um, you know, I thought a

931
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 1: point that he made too on Daniel Fallele was that

932
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: that was interesting was that his his athleticism really stands

933
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: out and that he thinks that's gonna allow him because

934
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: you you hear the size and you just think a

935
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: great size, but the athleticism and and that's something that

936
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: Georgie's also pointed to is in the run blocking, like

937
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: how low falle gets, like how well he can bend

938
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: and um, you know, not just at the waist, but

939
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: like he gets his pad level low and that's really impressive.

940
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: It's probably that rugby background, certainly, I'm sure I hope

941
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: that that has a role in that. And then it

942
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: was fun to talk with him about linder Bomb, because

943
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: he was the one that really kind of threw us off,

944
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: you know, from one of the early guys. He threw

945
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: us off early on. Is Cole actually is he basically

946
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: just is that his his job here? He employed by Eric.

947
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? Yeah, he basically he has

948
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: the insight and he's throwing everybody off. You know. Eric

949
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: said when we had him on the podcast, he likes

950
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: all the games that go along during this time of year.

951
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: So maybe Cole is part of that. He's playing some

952
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 1: of the games. Yeah, playing him game anyway, Thanks for listening.

953
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, we did have an email hold on

954
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: one email here. We had one email from Riley that

955
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to. Riley Runberg often emails us.

956
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: We appreciate it right at the lounge at Ravens dot

957
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: NFL dot net. Thank you very much, he says, boys

958
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: a lot, says hope all as well with both of

959
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: you beauties. Appreciate That's the first I've never heard that

960
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: one before. I'm getting so excited for this upcoming season.

961
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: As for the draft, it didn't go how I wanted

962
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: at all. Instead, it went better, said stoked. We got

963
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: a jabo and fought lately, as those were two guys

964
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: that was very high on the first round was something

965
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: special though, Um said, locking up these two and the

966
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: first is going to be massive for us. Lastly, Armor

967
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: Davis is going to be a stud roll Tide. A

968
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: couple of questions said, our old line is looking like

969
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna have so much depth and will be one

970
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: of the biggest we have ever seen. What are your

971
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: projections for the starting lineup? Okay, yes, his here, but

972
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 1: let you go ahead. Yeah, well it is gonna be big,

973
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I know you guys we talked about

974
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: with Cole was like, where Fay ends up? I just don't.

975
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't see him on the field unless there's injuries.

976
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: So my starting lineup is Ronnie Stanley. I think left

977
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: guard is the one here, right, I'll come back to that.

978
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: I think I think right guard is uh Kevin Zeidler,

979
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: and then right tackles Morgan Moses at left guard. As

980
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: it stands right now, I am going to give Ben

981
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: Cleveland the edge. I'm gonna put him in the starting lineup.

982
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: He's a massive guy, third round pick from a year ago. Honestly,

983
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's any leader in the clubhouse,

984
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: like I think him and Tyree Phillips and and Patrick mccarrey,

985
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: Ben Powers, Like, honestly, don't see a leader in that group.

986
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: I was I was watching our schedule re lease video.

987
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, we had Ben Cleveland in there, and we

988
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: had Tyree Phillips, and I was kind of trying to

989
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: grade that. You get a scouted chase down to chase down,

990
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: you got to him. Fact, I think Cleveland was there

991
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. Tyree kind of buried him at the

992
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: last second there after a card game the shove. Okay,

993
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give Cleveland just based off of what

994
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: I've seen on the field so far. Um No, I

995
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: I agree. I think what's interesting is Pat McCarry is

996
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: really an interesting one here, you know, is he he's

997
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: probably your top backup at any of the tier your positions,

998
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: left guard, center or right guard, and then fought would

999
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: be your I would say, I mean, it depends on

1000
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: what happens with Juan James. If if Morgan Moses weren't

1001
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: ready to go week one, probably Juwan James would be

1002
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: your starting right tackle. If whatever, for whatever reason, Morrigan

1003
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: Moses weren't ready to go week one, or Ronnie Stanley

1004
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: obviously if he weren't ready to go, Who's your left tackle?

1005
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: Was that McCarry or is that Morgan Moses or Juwan

1006
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: James one of the veterans. It ain't gonna be filele Um.

1007
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 1: So I kind of see the veteran being the top

1008
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: backup at the tackle spots early on, and then fought

1009
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: Le being your swing tackle. Well maybe not the left tackle,

1010
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: but he'd be your top right tackle backup, and the

1011
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: other guy would probably swing the left. Yeah, And I

1012
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: think McCarry, you know, it would be interesting if he

1013
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: ends up not in starting line of considering obviously the

1014
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Ravens escape him the contract year ago. But I do

1015
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: think he's a he has a shot at left guard,

1016
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: specifically said I mean, I think he said like McCarry

1017
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: is the leader in the club house. He said he could.

1018
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: I just think his versatility to basically be the super

1019
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: sub backup at all five offensive line positions is so

1020
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: valuable that that may end up being where he lands.

1021
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: And then you could end up in like you want

1022
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: to talk about getting playing time. If you're the backup

1023
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: to all five offensive line positions, that's basically a guarantee

1024
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: that you're gonna play a significant amount right right. And

1025
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: then here's the next question from Riley says, I have

1026
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: nothing but faith in our wide receiver group. This is

1027
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: a big talking point right now, he says, But it's

1028
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: certainly time. It's certainly time for Duvenet Approche to step up.

1029
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: That being said, it would be awesome to add a

1030
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: VET like Julio Jones A b or Odell. We're talking

1031
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: to Antonio brown Aby. He is, what are you talking

1032
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: about it? I don't know, but I'm like, that's gotta

1033
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: be a different ab because that ain't happening. Um says,

1034
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 1: what do you think? All right? So here's my thing

1035
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: with the veteran wide receiver. I honestly think that this

1036
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: signing to me is kind of the equival of Sammy

1037
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: Watkins signing. And you know, like Sammy wasn't you know,

1038
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: you wish he stayed healthier or whatever, but like he

1039
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: made some plays, especially early in the season. I I

1040
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: honestly think it's time to give du Renee Approche the

1041
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: opportunity and the Snaps the avenue to show what they've

1042
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: got because when they've had it, they've seized it, right,

1043
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: and you can't keep saying, well, the Ravens can't develop

1044
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: byde receivers. They can't draft and develop byd receivers if

1045
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: you don't give him an opportunity. For like, every time

1046
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: these guys have a chance, you sign a veteran that

1047
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: takes their snaps away, right Like, ultimately you have to say,

1048
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: all right, you know what, You've earned it, And like

1049
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: I understand, let's say boy King for example, right like,

1050
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: he just didn't show enough in his snaps. Well, in

1051
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: the limited snaps that we've seen of du renee Approche,

1052
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: they've done it, so they earned it in my opinion, right,

1053
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: But I do think the Ravens like, you have to

1054
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: have a plan B and you have to have depth,

1055
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: And that's why I like a budget veteran wide receiver signing,

1056
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: and Jarvis might have just been a little bit too

1057
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: rich for what the Ravens wanted to spend on that

1058
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: kind of signing. I'm looking at the two to three

1059
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: million dollar range right as opposed to the sixth seven

1060
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: million dollar range, right Like, but I do think they

1061
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: absolutely need some depth just in case you were to

1062
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: have do Rene go down to it for an injury

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Speaker 1: or whatever. You have to have somebody that can step

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00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: in that number two wide receiver role. But like I'm ready,

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00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm here for it. I'm putting my stamp on it. Bateman,

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00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: do you Renee Prochet? Like I'm ready to see the

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00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: next iteration of the Ravens young wide receivers. So I

1068
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: did final drive on this on Tuesday and your shot,

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00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: Bateman agrees. Someone basically tweeted at him with the article.

1070
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: Thato was on ESPN saying can the Wavens Ravens win

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00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: now with their current receiving corps. Bateman said, we can

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00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: and we will. Y'all talk too much, y'all, y'all talk much.

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Speaker 1: So the two he he definitely meant the two is implied. Yes,

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00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: it is implied, um, And so like I I have

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00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: high hopes for this young receiving corps. I think that

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00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: they're thin on depth, and so like if you do

1077
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: you have an injury, you're gonna to Bateman, you're you know,

1078
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: you're kind of in a tough spot. You're in a

1079
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: tough spot. I think that there will still be another

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00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: receiver that gets added to the team at some point,

1081
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: like you know, like O'Dell is an interesting one. He

1082
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: showed that you know, I think when he got when

1083
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: he ended up in l A last year, the question

1084
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: was like, what's he got left? And then he showed

1085
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: he still got a lot left. Um, but he's coming

1086
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: off the torn he's going When is he going to

1087
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: be availing? I don't know. I don't know. That's when.

1088
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: When is he going to be available? It's a big

1089
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: it's the question. Um. And so maybe it's not him,

1090
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: but maybe maybe that could be during the season if

1091
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't sign previously, somebody like a Julio Jones right, Like,

1092
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: to me, that guy comes in and it's not in

1093
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: a complimentary role to you know, like you're not I

1094
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: would be shocked if, like du Rene, they said, you

1095
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: know what, du Rene, it's gonna take Lion's share, Julio,

1096
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: you're the backup to Devon Duverne and he's going to

1097
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: sign that contract. Like, I just don't see that happening.

1098
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: To me, it's somebody that has to come in on

1099
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: a you know, a type are a budget. The Ravens

1100
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: have like and they know they're a role player, and hey,

1101
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna be part of the mix. You're gonna be

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00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: the top four. Similar to what Sammy Watkins was last

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00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: year exactly exactly. It's similar to what Sammy Watkins was

1104
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: last and I can see that I don't know who

1105
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: that is. That could be a trade. I mean, Erica

1106
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: Costa turns over every stone, so there's like always wide

1107
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: receivers that shake loose. Jeremy Macklin, I mean that didn't

1108
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: work out for the Ravens, but like there's wide receivers

1109
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: of shake loose. Yeah, just is And so I think

1110
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: the Ravens will add one. And here's my point to

1111
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: the whole thing. If the Ravens are on a limited

1112
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: budget right now and they still have needs, right like,

1113
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: they have to sign up a better an outside linebacker,

1114
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: I think because you have Taias Bowser and no job

1115
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: is not gonna be ready, right, I think justin Houston

1116
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: makes a whole lot of sense there. But that has

1117
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: to get done right. Uh. And then, like we said,

1118
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: we also need another corner, right, So that is a

1119
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: big spot. And to me, I would if I'm spending

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00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: more at one spot then the other, I'm spending more

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00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: at corner than I am a wide receiver corners int thing.

1122
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to take this too long, but like

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00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about Kyle Hamilton and all the things he

1124
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: can do. You've got Marcus Peters, you got more as

1125
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: like I don't see Kyle Hounton just lying against wide receivers,

1126
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: like when they go three wide, which a lot of

1127
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: teams go through wide receiver. See how you're feeling pretty

1128
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: strong about Brandon Stevens being in the slot there or

1129
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: one of the fourth round picks. Well, fourth round rookie

1130
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens showed a lot last year. Sure, but he's

1131
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: like now he's already a converted running back, the corner

1132
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: who then converted kind of the safety last year. Like

1133
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: now he's just going Now he's going back. You know

1134
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: he's going back. But I mean, I think that that's

1135
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: a spot where I'd like to add a that I'd

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00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: like to add another person. I would like to add

1137
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: depth there. I would like to add depth there because

1138
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: you're one of those top two. I mean, both your

1139
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: top two corners are coming back from season ending. Also,

1140
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: there's that, um, at least the wide receivers are coming

1141
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: back healthy, and I'm not worried about especially I think

1142
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: I think Marlon and Marcus will be healthy for the record. Um,

1143
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: But yes, I'm on board adding somebody there. But I

1144
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: do I don't feel like it's a it's a massive

1145
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't see it as a huge need given the

1146
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: versatility that the Ravens having the secondary with Brandon Stevens,

1147
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: with Kyle Hamilton's and then the fourth round picks. Now

1148
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: you want to you do want to limit how much

1149
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: the fourth round picks are thrust into the action exactly.

1150
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: But that's why you have Hamilton's and that's why you

1151
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: have I just I just think that if a wide

1152
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: receiver were to go down or whatnot, like you can

1153
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: pivot the offense and kind of make up for that loss.

1154
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: The Ravens didn't have a wide receiver the top six

1155
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: hundred yards, right, Like, you can do other things and

1156
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,479
Speaker 1: still have success on offense, right if you're a little

1157
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: shorthanded or having invested a lot of resources at wide receiver.

1158
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: The Ravens have shown they can have success with that

1159
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: right at corner. If your corners start dropping, you're fried.

1160
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: You are toast, my friend, Like, what are you gonna do?

1161
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: Like your one on one? You know, like sure more safe,

1162
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: put a bunch of safties on the field, I guess.

1163
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: But like that guy gets one on one. Yeah, that's

1164
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: a fair point. Yeah you can. It's harder. It's harder, masks.

1165
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: We saw it last year when the Ravens got shorthanded

1166
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: at corner of what happened. Yeah, yeah, no, I think

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00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: that's a fair point. Anyway, Thanks for listening. That kind

1168
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: of went a little long, but Briley, you get us

1169
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: fired up every time. Thanks for the email, buddy. As always,

1170
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: like Garrett said, you can reach us at the lounge

1171
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: at Ravens dot NFL dot net and we'll be back

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Speaker 1: with you next week.