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Speaker 1: Whoop Whoop Emergency Podcast. Welcome to the solid verbal LL

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Speaker 1: For me, I'm a man.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy? For Dake Edith State,

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Speaker 2: is that Whoop Whoop?

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Speaker 3: And now Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 1: We have, of course, breaking news in the world of

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Speaker 1: college football. As we've come to know over the last

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Speaker 1: couple Julys, it's been a hotbed for news. We've got

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Speaker 1: more is the end of July, the Year of Our

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Speaker 1: Lord twenty twenty three. News has just broken that Colorado is,

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Speaker 1: in fact, ending months of speculation alleged reportedly reportedly they're

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Speaker 1: headed back to the Big twelve, leaving the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 1: Going back to the Big twelve Dan reported by a

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Speaker 1: number of sources is from Pete Thamil at ESPN to

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Speaker 1: most recently our friend Brett McMurphy Action Network, who seemingly

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Speaker 1: confirmed that it is a go. So this has been

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Speaker 1: boiling up for a while. Kind of in the undercurrent

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Speaker 1: here is that the PAC twelve is working on a

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Speaker 1: new media rite steal. We thought we were going to

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Speaker 1: get that in March and then April and then May

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Speaker 1: and then June, and then they punted and said, ah,

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to it eventually at media day.

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Speaker 2: At media Day, Klaiavkoff said, you know, we want to

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Speaker 2: keep the focus on football, and you know, the longer

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Speaker 2: we've waited, then you know, more suitors have come into

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Speaker 2: the fold.

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Speaker 3: And Colorado hope on hearing that.

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Speaker 2: Apparently maybe just coincidentally, Tye, what did they do they

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Speaker 2: decided to leave?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like they got tired of waiting around. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: and who knows what this means for the future of

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Speaker 1: the Pac twelve. I think we can speculate a little

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Speaker 1: bit what it means for the future of the Big

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Speaker 1: twelve and what their strategy is going to be. But look,

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Speaker 1: you're the PAC twelve. Between the two of us. He

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Speaker 1: graduated from a PAC twelve school. I'm assuming a PAC

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Speaker 1: twelve school that will be very interested in the news

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Speaker 1: that one of their own is deciding to leave an

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Speaker 1: already slim down conference. In twenty twenty four, it was

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Speaker 1: going down to ten teams, with USC and UCLA going

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Speaker 1: to the Big ten. Now I guess we've got a

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Speaker 1: Pack nine with potentially more to come. How do you

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Speaker 1: feel right now?

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Speaker 3: I feel nothing. I feel nothing.

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Speaker 2: How do I feel I feel like this is, as

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, a long time coming. It's just an extension

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Speaker 2: of what we've come to know about the sport that

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Speaker 2: a conference like the Big Twelve, after suffering losses, is

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Speaker 2: looking out for the good of the Big Twelve. I

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Speaker 2: suppose on a certain level they should right that they

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Speaker 2: are trying to grow in the way that obviously the

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Speaker 2: PAC twelve used to grow. The Big Ten has grown,

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Speaker 2: the SEC has grown, the ACC has grown. That you

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Speaker 2: want to grow westward, specifically for the Big Twelve because

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Speaker 2: of a television footprint and time zone, so now they

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Speaker 2: and so from a strategic standpoint, a school like Colorado

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Speaker 2: an hour away or so. I don't have my exact

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Speaker 2: geography down, but I don't think Brett Yormark was going

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Speaker 2: San Diego State, which have been rumored to be in

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Speaker 2: conversations with the PAC twelve. So for the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 2: they get a team that has largely been a doormat

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Speaker 2: Colorado had a flash, and I want to say twenty

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Speaker 2: I have my year correctly. But by and large they

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Speaker 2: have served to occasionally upset a big tea have a

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Speaker 2: good season and a half ish. They had a few

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Speaker 2: good games in twenty twenty, but this has not been

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Speaker 2: hammer and the nail that is being pushed into the

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Probably, But the health of this conference was never going

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Speaker 2: to fully depend on Colorado anchoring it. It was merely

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Speaker 2: but it seems now the Pack nine moving forward unless

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Speaker 2: with the heightened buyout in the Mountain West, that the

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Speaker 2: and figuring out what to do or if the teams left.

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Speaker 2: Those nine teams, so it's the Washington schools, the Oregon schools,

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Speaker 2: going to be figuring out what's best for their future,

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Speaker 2: both both competitively and financially.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've been talking about the scenario now for

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Speaker 1: months on end, and it really has been a war

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Speaker 1: of dueling PR departments. On one hand, you've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of the CBS reporting that was very friendly to

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve, and we joked on our show, please

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Speaker 1: was being fed directly to them from Brett Yormark himself.

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Speaker 1: On the other side of the coin, you had some

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Speaker 1: favorable language towards the PAC twelve. No, No, the media right,

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Speaker 1: stuff is gonna work itself out. You just got to

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Speaker 1: give it time, guys. Relax, everything's gonna everything's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fine, It's gonna be okay. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: what I think the irony is right now, given the

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Speaker 1: news of the evening Colorado, which as you said rightfully,

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Speaker 1: has been a doormat over the last however many years

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Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve, they're now the ones that are

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Speaker 1: impacting change in a really, really significant way. In twenty

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Speaker 1: also in like late June early July. Now, obviously we've

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Speaker 1: PAC nine. Okay, well, how long is that going to last?

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Speaker 1: Because alongside Colorado in many of these rumored moves on

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Speaker 1: and what remains of the conference would look to go elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: So I think this is kind of the next big

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Speaker 1: which program it would be. Colorado acting in their own

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Speaker 1: self interest. As reported by Brett McMurphy, they stand to

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, they also get the full share,

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Speaker 1: obviously money is a pretty big driver for this. But

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Speaker 1: I think if you're Colorado, I think if you're any

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Speaker 1: at what the college football landscape looks like, everybody craves

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Speaker 1: the money. But what folks, I think, crave more stability,

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Speaker 1: and the money gives you that. But obviously you don't

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Speaker 1: that's where we're at with the Pack twelve right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, it absolutely does. And the story here is

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Speaker 2: the PAC twelve. As fun as I think the Big

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Speaker 2: it's losing a region of football is pretty awful for

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Speaker 2: this sport. And you talk about the warring pr messaging

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Speaker 2: of Big twelve and PAC twelve. Let's be clear and

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Speaker 2: up front. I'm from the West Coast. I grew up

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Speaker 2: and I love football in the Southwest, the Southeast, the Midwest,

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Speaker 2: the East Coast, the Northeast, whatever. I love college football

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Speaker 2: wherever it exists. But let's not pretend that I'm just

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Speaker 2: unpartisaned individual. I love the PAC twelve, I love Pac

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Speaker 2: ten whatever it is. So it's a bummer to me.

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Speaker 2: What this means for Colorado football with Deon Sanders in

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Speaker 2: the short term is probably more visibility, likely more visibility

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Speaker 2: If he's there for the next twenty years, it'll be

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Speaker 2: twenty years of ESPN and Fox visibility.

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Speaker 3: What could be better for everybody?

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Speaker 2: Sure, it's still a Big twelve that is lacking star

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Speaker 2: It's sort of a steakhouse without steak right, Like, it's

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Speaker 2: great that you have Sea bass and chicken, but we

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Speaker 2: came here for something else and that doesn't exist in

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Speaker 2: this moment within the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 3: Still going to watch the hell out of the conference.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where where the remaining nine teams go.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happens with San Diego State. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what. It's never been a Boise State thing

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If you go, if you play Pac nine football get

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Speaker 2: you got everybody's got to start adding games quickly for

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season to play that those twelve

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Speaker 2: the teams that are left there still pretty strong given

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Speaker 2: where Oregon, Washington, and Utah have been recently. Oregon State

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Speaker 2: last year obviously, Washington State under Mike Leach was quite

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't seem like it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: major deal with just nine right that it's not going

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Speaker 2: to become premium inventory for TV networks. I hate that

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Speaker 2: we're talking about it through that lens, but this is

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Speaker 2: where we are right now. And so Colorado's only been

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Speaker 2: just completed there, what is it eleven season, twelfth season,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they made one conference championship game. I believe

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Speaker 2: they lost to Washington. And the Big Twelve is positioning

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Speaker 2: itself as a basketball conference as well. Right Yukon has

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Speaker 2: been rumored to be in the mix for the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Colorado as a basketball school has been, as far as

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Speaker 2: I can tell, a full non factor. They haven't made

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Speaker 2: stability again for first ability, you know, totally.

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Speaker 1: Brett yor Mark took over and was very aggressive in

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Speaker 1: Shoot us a line on social media Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: soliverbal at gmail dot com. The big news of the night,

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Speaker 1: Dan Per reports Colorado is headed back back. Guys say

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Speaker 1: to the Big twelve.

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Speaker 3: We'll do our best to.

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Speaker 1: Cover what it means moving Forwardeah, it was a better fit, right.

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Speaker 2: It was always the like Colorado is just like a

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Speaker 2: better cultural fit.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Boulder is a little bit crunchy. You got Berkeley in there,

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Speaker 2: Palo Alto Eugene and now it's well, the better fit

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Speaker 2: is where we can make one point three million more

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Speaker 2: dollars a year or whatever it's going to end up being.

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Speaker 2: So that's where we are as a sport. Did you read,

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Speaker 2: by the way, the Andy Staples thing. It might have

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Speaker 2: been one of the last things he wrote for The

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Speaker 2: Athletic before joining on three, where how everything should operate

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Speaker 2: If it made sense, it was Andy staples where we'd

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Speaker 2: have a nationally negotiated TV deal. But there is no

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Speaker 2: central college football right there is nothing that would ensure

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Speaker 2: the balance, that it would ensure the safety of the sport.

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Speaker 2: And all all that changed, I want to say, was

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty four when there was a ruling I

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Speaker 2: want to say Oklahoma was involved. I apologize for not

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Speaker 2: having this information at my fingertips that that essentially said

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Speaker 2: that conferences could negotiate their own TV deals. And so

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Speaker 2: now that really created all of these fefdoms, for better

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Speaker 2: or worse, but at the expense of what I believe

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Speaker 2: to be the health of the sport. Hope it works out, Ty,

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Speaker 2: really hope it works out.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, Thank you for watching. We'll do

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Speaker 1: our best to stay on top of this. My hunch

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Speaker 1: is that there is more to follow for myself, so

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Speaker 1: I held a brand for that fine gentleman over there,

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Speaker 1: as always my beloved co host Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you all soon.

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Speaker 1: Stay solid, peace,