Speaker 1: Hey fam, Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, we're popping off and dishing
Speaker 2: on the biggest pop culture stories of the week, like
Speaker 2: is Flavor flav coming to the rescue of an Olympic controversy?
Speaker 2: Is the hot news scent for Cologne mayonnaise? And is
Speaker 2: Disney in its villain era? I don't know, we'll find out.
Speaker 2: It's Friday, August sixteenth. I'm Danielle Robe.
Speaker 3: And I'm Simoon Boyce and this is the bright Side
Speaker 3: from Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together
Speaker 3: to share women's stories, laugh, learn and brighten your day.
Speaker 4: Simon, We've had quite a week.
Speaker 2: We started off strong with June's Squib and our girl
Speaker 2: Mikayla j Rodriguez.
Speaker 1: Yes, one of my favorite weeks yet.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed learning about mindfulness with doctor Ellen Langer too.
Speaker 3: You know what was interesting I realized when I was
Speaker 3: hanging out with my kids yesterday. Kids are the best
Speaker 3: mindfulness mentors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're so present, they.
Speaker 3: Are so present, But specifically Ellen Langer's advice is to
Speaker 3: know that is the key to mindfulness. And when I'm
Speaker 3: with my kids, they'll be like, Mom, look there's a kite. Mom,
Speaker 3: Look there's a bug.
Speaker 1: Mom.
Speaker 3: Look, there's this and it seems annoying in the moment,
Speaker 3: but as I started to think about it, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, they're practicing mindfulness and I have so
Speaker 3: much to learn from that.
Speaker 1: That's cool, Simon, Yeah, I love that. Well.
Speaker 3: Anyways, I'm so ready to talk all things pop culture
Speaker 3: today and kick this weekend off rights.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's do it.
Speaker 2: But before we go there, it's time to spotlight our
Speaker 2: favorite moment of the week, brought to you by our
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Speaker 2: that reminds us of the power of kindness. Tory Helford
Speaker 2: is a content creator and recently surprised her mailman with
Speaker 2: a gift basket filled with snacks and treats, a gesture
Speaker 2: that she said was an apology for a build up
Speaker 2: of deliveries and packages while she was on vacation. So
Speaker 2: she shared his reaction on TikTok, which was captured via
Speaker 2: a ring camera, and it showed the delivery person named Daniel,
Speaker 2: filled with gratitude and excitement and in the clip you
Speaker 2: see him spotting the basket after dropping off packages, saying
Speaker 2: no way to the bundle of goodies followed by thank you,
Speaker 2: And this is awesome, so sweet and.
Speaker 1: A reminder that a little gesture really goes a long way.
Speaker 2: I just feel like the small interactions in our lives
Speaker 2: with like our barista, our male person, like they make
Speaker 2: such a difference in our day, and so I love
Speaker 2: when people show gratitude for those interactions and those people.
Speaker 3: My mom always told me to be really grateful and
Speaker 3: kind to the people who are in service roles, and
Speaker 3: mister Rogers always said, like, remember the helpers and remember
Speaker 3: the helpers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, find the helpers.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The people in these roles tend to be overlooked
Speaker 3: and feel invisible in our society, but they're so essential
Speaker 3: And I love this message.
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Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna start off with some Olympics conversation, y'all.
Speaker 3: So the Olympics itself may be over, but the discussion
Speaker 3: around one US gymnast is still going strong. Because all
Speaker 3: week we've been talking about Jordan Childs, who is stripped
Speaker 3: of her bronze medal from the women's floor exercise competition
Speaker 3: at the Paris Olympics. This is all very unprecedented. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna break it down for you. So here's what happened.
Speaker 3: At the very end of Jordan's floor exercise at the
Speaker 3: Paris Games. After her initial score was announced, Chiles's coach
Speaker 3: appealed the score, saying she didn't receive enough credits for
Speaker 3: the difficulty of the routine. So the judges agreed in
Speaker 3: that moment and raised her score, which moved her up
Speaker 3: to third place, bumping her competition and a Barboso of
Speaker 3: Romania off the podium. But the International Olympic Committee later
Speaker 3: found out that the scoring inquiry was invalid because her
Speaker 3: coach filed the appeal. Get this four seconds too late?
Speaker 3: Four seconds That's what it comes down to. So Chiles
Speaker 3: was stripped of her medal. This is still developing, so look,
Speaker 3: we never know. Things could change, but this actually makes
Speaker 3: Jordan Childs the only gymnast in history who's ever been
Speaker 3: stripped of an Olympic medal for reasons not having to
Speaker 3: do with failing a drug test or age falsification. Let's
Speaker 3: not forget the incredible moment that this win led to.
Speaker 3: That image of the first all black gymnetastis podium shared
Speaker 3: by Jordan Chiles, Simone Biles, and Rebecca Androgy. What do
Speaker 3: you guys make of this controversy?
Speaker 5: Well, there's been so much back and forth about it too,
Speaker 5: because the US team came back and said, we actually
Speaker 5: submitted this four seconds early.
Speaker 6: So like there's some time.
Speaker 5: Back and forth going on about whether or not it
Speaker 5: was four seconds late or it was four seconds early,
Speaker 5: So like there's still a complete discrepancy about that time.
Speaker 5: But I just feel so bad for her. The rollercoaster
Speaker 5: of what this has been, the you're a winner, Oh no,
Speaker 5: we're taking this away. Oh you're a winner again, because
Speaker 5: this has been going back and forth.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's what I can't stop thinking about.
Speaker 2: Imagine working your whole life for something and have that
Speaker 2: moment ruined by an incompetent judging panel, like it wasn't
Speaker 2: ruined by another gymnast, it wasn't ruined by her error,
Speaker 2: it was an.
Speaker 5: Incompetent judging panel, like, get it together, Get it together. Yes,
Speaker 5: I agree, and I feel like the spirit with everything
Speaker 5: that's going on in the world, it would be such
Speaker 5: a nice gesture to celebrate the accomplishments of these two
Speaker 5: extraordinary athletes during this time.
Speaker 3: I have an unpopular opinion, I want Jordan Chiles to
Speaker 3: get this medal. I also understand why these rules are
Speaker 3: in place, and I'm not a rules person. Y'all probably
Speaker 3: know this about me by now. I don't do rules.
Speaker 3: I don't like rules. That's not how I live my life.
Speaker 3: But in certain situations, in spaces, there is a need
Speaker 3: for rules. And I think in a competition like this,
Speaker 3: where precision matters, seconds matter, I do understand the need
Speaker 3: to adhere to.
Speaker 5: The rules one hundred percent. So do you think what
Speaker 5: so what happens now for you? That's a good question.
Speaker 5: I think we need to get clear on the time.
Speaker 5: If her coaches did in fact submit the inquiry within
Speaker 5: the correct timeframe, then I think she should get the medal.
Speaker 5: If they did not submit it within the timeframe. I
Speaker 5: know four seconds is like so small and so annoying,
Speaker 5: but I actually do think that they should adhere to
Speaker 5: the rules. So they have cameras everywhere, right, how do
Speaker 5: they not know this? I mean we watch other sports.
Speaker 5: We see like football plays get called, we see basketball
Speaker 5: challenges happen and they figure it out in the moment.
Speaker 6: The cameras everywhere. How does not know when this was
Speaker 6: actually done?
Speaker 2: I don't even care about the seconds. Actually, I feel
Speaker 2: like this was the Olympic committee's error. If it's the
Speaker 2: error of the person competing, I understand the rules and
Speaker 2: the time, but the Olympic committee take it on the chin.
Speaker 4: It's your fault.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well, somebody is chiming in on this conversation
Speaker 2: other than the three of Us plot to us Flava flave,
Speaker 2: he offered Jordan Childs a custom blinged out bronze clock,
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure this is helpful because Jordan Chiles
Speaker 2: went she logged off social media. She says she's taking
Speaker 2: care of her mental health. She's clearly really upset over this.
Speaker 2: And then here it comes Flava Flavor. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: the clock metal is the same as an Olympic medal.
Speaker 5: I will say, hot take. I think I'd rather have
Speaker 5: clock metal to wear around.
Speaker 3: Well. Her mom did respond to Flava Flav on Twitter
Speaker 3: and she was like, thank you so much. This is
Speaker 3: a really sweet gesture. I know Jordan has really moved
Speaker 3: by it. I'm gonna tell her even though she's not
Speaker 3: on social media, but I mean, low kei Flava Flave
Speaker 3: being like a hero of women's sports. It's also contributing
Speaker 3: to the women's water polo team, and he's now the
Speaker 3: hype man for the women's water polo team.
Speaker 5: For a man who was so misogynist to women for
Speaker 5: so honestly now showing up like this, people can change.
Speaker 6: So yeah, here's the great hope for the world.
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, I was in Las Vegas with AT
Speaker 2: and T and I did a red carpet and Flava
Speaker 2: Flav walks on and I was so obsessed with the
Speaker 2: me too movement still am so I throw in a
Speaker 2: question at the end because it was not about the
Speaker 2: red carpet was not about And at the end, I
Speaker 2: just threw in, hey, flavor, flav in hindsight, with everything
Speaker 2: that has been going on in the world, how do
Speaker 2: you look back on your television show and those moments,
Speaker 2: would you do anything differently?
Speaker 4: And he looks at me, he goes absolutely not.
Speaker 2: So for that to happen, and then for him to
Speaker 2: be such a proponent of women and women's sports, I'm
Speaker 2: happy for the evolution.
Speaker 1: Honestly, We'll take it. We'll take it, we will.
Speaker 4: Take it, Okay.
Speaker 2: Next up is an actor speaking out about a controversy
Speaker 2: of her own. In an episode on Jenny Garth's podcast
Speaker 2: this week, Julie Bowen, who was a Star and Modern Family,
Speaker 2: revealed that the press often tried to pit her and
Speaker 2: her co stars Sophia Vergara against each other, quote like
Speaker 2: they hated each other. She said they tried to push
Speaker 2: a Betty and Veronica narrative on them, saying it's quote
Speaker 2: the scarcity mindset that only one woman can be happy
Speaker 2: at a time.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Neither of them fed into this, which I think is awesome.
Speaker 2: But this false sense of rivalry is not new. We
Speaker 2: saw it with Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, Taylor Swift,
Speaker 2: and Katie Perry. Most recently Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo.
Speaker 2: We saw it with Hailey Bieber and Selena Gomez. I'm
Speaker 2: sure there are examples of this from the sixties, seventies
Speaker 2: and eighties that I'm unaware of. What's with the obsession
Speaker 2: with pitting women against each other. I feel like we've
Speaker 2: evolved out of this, and yet we haven't.
Speaker 3: Honestly, whenever I find something that really bothers me about
Speaker 3: the way the media works or portrays the world, it
Speaker 3: actually oftentimes is a reflection back on us, back on
Speaker 3: the consumer, because if people weren't clicking on stories like this,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't be making them.
Speaker 5: Fortunately, it's great advertising and marketing for a lot of
Speaker 5: this too, yeah, you know, because people want to follow
Speaker 5: the behind the scenes drama of something. I'm thrilled to
Speaker 5: see that Julie and Sophia didn't bite into this, but
Speaker 5: we see how it's had such a negative impact on
Speaker 5: women over time.
Speaker 2: So Jamila jimil who we had on the show, talks
Speaker 2: about this a lot, and I feel like I need
Speaker 2: to quote her because I can't say it any better
Speaker 2: than she does. She has this thing called hashtag defund
Speaker 2: the patriarchy, and she says, it's a sad truth that
Speaker 2: media drips down in culture, society, schools. We have to
Speaker 2: actively reject the rot. We control the market. The media
Speaker 2: responds to whatever they think we want. So let's show
Speaker 2: them that we don't want this so that they stop
Speaker 2: doing it. Just like we were able to at least
Speaker 2: stop them from overtly fat shaming women in their bathing suits.
Speaker 2: Now it's more insidious, but there's a shift in the
Speaker 2: bodies they celebrate and a shift in their language. We
Speaker 2: can keep chugging them along towards being humane and halfway decent.
Speaker 2: If we lose them, they're advertising money because they lost
Speaker 2: our attention.
Speaker 6: So I think really powerful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: Can either of you think of an example of when
Speaker 3: the media has done this to men.
Speaker 5: I think you see it in sports a lot. You
Speaker 5: think you see it with like sports heroes. But again,
Speaker 5: that's like the sense of rivalry in the competition because
Speaker 5: it's inherent in what they're doing.
Speaker 6: But this is completely different. And Julie on the.
Speaker 5: Same show celebrated for what they're both doing as women,
Speaker 5: they're playing completely different characters like there's no there's no
Speaker 5: competition and what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate here.
Speaker 3: If athletes are benefiting from these kinds of narratives in media,
Speaker 3: should women lean into it? Is there a way for
Speaker 3: women to reclaim it and make it beneficial for them?
Speaker 5: Well, I think Taylor Swift did that, like with Bad
Speaker 5: Blood and some other reputation, Like she really took back
Speaker 5: her own narrative. Like that's where I think when women
Speaker 5: can be savvier than the media, right, Like they were
Speaker 5: being talked she was being talked about, and she came
Speaker 5: out and she was just like, I'm gonna I'm going
Speaker 5: to capitalize on this.
Speaker 2: I think it maybe become like there is personal capitalization
Speaker 2: or personal gain, but I think collectively it still takes
Speaker 2: us back. Like I think the spiritual woo woo person
Speaker 2: in me is like it's just it's not good, like
Speaker 2: it it puts us behind because the narrative is that
Speaker 2: women are caddy and we know that we're not.
Speaker 6: But we also see it like Ryan Murphy show was
Speaker 6: literally called feud.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, so there is a little bit of
Speaker 5: an insatiable quality to see like women sort of fighting
Speaker 5: with each other, like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean in a view and the view view.
Speaker 1: Really, it always comes back.
Speaker 6: To daytime talk for Damie.
Speaker 4: I love daytime television.
Speaker 6: Same Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the negative Nancy here, but
Speaker 2: we have to hit pause on popping off.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back and we're back, all right. This
Speaker 3: next one is going to start a feud for sure.
Speaker 3: File this one under outrageous because hitting the market, guys,
Speaker 3: is a new scent that smells like mayonnaise. The Dyennessee
Speaker 3: Titans quarterback Will Levice and the condiment brand Helman's have
Speaker 3: collaborated on a new cologne called Perfume de Mayonnaise. It's
Speaker 3: got notes of parsley tart, lemon musk, creamy vanilla, and
Speaker 3: let's not forget the star of the show, Mayonnaise Accord,
Speaker 3: which I'm told is an assortment of mayonnaise fragrances. I
Speaker 3: know how I'm feeling about this.
Speaker 1: How about you, guys? Go ahead?
Speaker 2: Okay, unpopular opinion, I despise Colonne and Perfume.
Speaker 4: Everybody's eyes went large.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wear it every day, I know, and you
Speaker 2: smell really good. Personally, I don't wear any fragrance or
Speaker 2: try and use products with fragrance in it. It disrupts
Speaker 2: your endocrine system. In my opinion, Simone and I disagree
Speaker 2: on this, So I don't want to buy any perfume,
Speaker 2: let alone one that smells like mayonnaise.
Speaker 1: Who bought this?
Speaker 4: And why did it sell out?
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know why We're all looking at t
Speaker 3: him like he has the answers right now.
Speaker 5: I just want everyone at home to know I'm not
Speaker 5: wearing mayonnaise scent in cologne.
Speaker 1: Now he's wearing Ketchup scented Ketchup scented.
Speaker 5: You know, these these are the outrageous types of things
Speaker 5: that people love for like gag gifts, stocking stuffers. These
Speaker 5: are huge, like big marketing ploys. There was a Velveta
Speaker 5: cheese scented nail polish a few years ago. Do you
Speaker 5: remember that?
Speaker 4: No, Now I'm googling and it was.
Speaker 5: The actual color of Velveta And I remember trying that
Speaker 5: as a gag and it was really funny for a
Speaker 5: second until you're out in public and people like, what.
Speaker 2: Is that is?
Speaker 5: Did you did you have Velvita? Like, oh no, it's
Speaker 5: it's my nails, Like it makes But those types of things.
Speaker 5: For the longest time, it was bacon. Remember when it
Speaker 5: was bacon sent in candles and bacon scented. You all
Speaker 5: are looking at me like I'm crazy, But like I
Speaker 5: grew up in Virginia, so this was like a thing.
Speaker 2: No, you're right, what was that store? Like hot topic
Speaker 2: or hot topic? All those spencers, Spencers had all the gifts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean these are really the thing about these
Speaker 5: types of things I think is like it's so impossible
Speaker 5: to try to mark these days. It's it's impossible to
Speaker 5: like cut through a really crowded landscape. So when you
Speaker 5: do these huge collaborations with like Hellman's and an NFL player,
Speaker 5: it just like draws attention to the entirety of it.
Speaker 5: But I could never in a gazillion years imagine going
Speaker 5: anywhere and smelling like man is could you imagine showing
Speaker 5: up on a date?
Speaker 1: What does mayonnaise even smell like eggs?
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a like a sour e Like it's like eggy,
Speaker 5: like a tarty eggy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Isn't it like you were at football practice and didn't shower,
Speaker 2: Like what's the difference?
Speaker 3: All I know is maybe that's why he's into it.
Speaker 3: All I know is a black person was not in
Speaker 3: charge of this clab. That's all I know. We are
Speaker 3: not responsible for this.
Speaker 6: This is on y'all.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not taking any no, no, you can.
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, on that note.
Speaker 5: But I I have a friend who puts Mayo on everything.
Speaker 1: I actually do like Mayo.
Speaker 2: Have you ever mixed ketchup and Mayo and then made
Speaker 2: your own Thousand Island and dipped your French fries with
Speaker 2: the French wife.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not on your body, on.
Speaker 5: Your If you mix Mayo and ketchup in a little relish,
Speaker 5: you get thousand Island.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you're right, very Chicago hot Dog of.
Speaker 2: He very Yes, yes, yes, so clearly mayonnaise is the
Speaker 2: villain here. What I want to know is if you've
Speaker 2: ever rooted for a villain in a movie or a book.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, villains are misunderstood. They're often more interesting than
Speaker 3: the protagonists too. Give me an example, the joker Ursula
Speaker 3: bad bitch, but she's like more bad. What do you
Speaker 3: mean like She's like not really, I don't have a
Speaker 3: lot of empathy for Ursula. I mean, but she's also
Speaker 3: just a bad bitch, So I like her for that reason. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we don't get we don't get much of Ursula's backstory,
Speaker 3: so there's no there's no way to really develop empathy.
Speaker 5: New Disney spin off Stilla backstory, origin story. I think
Speaker 5: of outside of the Disney universe. I think about Miranda Priestley. Oh,
Speaker 5: there's something so complex and interesting about that portrayal as
Speaker 5: and I know you have a bit of a hot
Speaker 5: take on that, Yeah, Danielle.
Speaker 2: I know, because I think the real villain in that
Speaker 2: movie is Anne Hathaway's boyfriend.
Speaker 4: I have empathy for yeah, for her.
Speaker 5: Miranda Priestley's character is so complex and she's kind of
Speaker 5: like the villain you want to in some ways totally,
Speaker 5: but I also, you know, the villain and snow White.
Speaker 5: I feel sorry for her. She was the first person
Speaker 5: to like be age shamed. Oh wow, you know, she
Speaker 5: was mirror mirror on the wall. Who's the fairest one?
Speaker 5: Now it's snow White. Now I'm old And she's like,
Speaker 5: I gotta kill that bitch because I need to be young.
Speaker 2: No, you're right, there's sexism there. I think about all
Speaker 2: the bank robber movies. For some reason, I always have
Speaker 2: empathy for the robber because, like, there's a reason they
Speaker 2: need the money.
Speaker 6: Usually break the point.
Speaker 2: Break.
Speaker 3: I have empathy for Lord Farquaad from Shrek. You just
Speaker 3: you just wanted to say Lord farquad No, he's a
Speaker 3: short king and like he has a complex and you
Speaker 3: know he's he's always felt inadequate. He's never felt like
Speaker 3: he was enough, and he feels like he has to
Speaker 3: do all this stuff to commentate for it.
Speaker 4: How about the Grinch? Do you have any sympathy or
Speaker 4: empathy for the Grinch.
Speaker 3: I wasn't a big Grinch girl. Like, I never really
Speaker 3: I never really got into the Grinch core.
Speaker 4: Uh okay, well here's why I'm asking.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just this week, Disney announced that it's creating a new
Speaker 2: villain themed portion of the Magic Kingdom in Florida. It's
Speaker 2: called Villain's Land and it will be quote dark and thorny.
Speaker 2: It's going to feature attractions, dining, and shopping experiences, all
Speaker 2: inspired by the infamous Disney villains. So you mentioned and Ursula,
Speaker 2: She's going to be there, the Evil Queen, Gaston, and more.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Gaston was a villain, but whatever.
Speaker 5: So Gaston was a toxic f boy villain. He was
Speaker 5: we would see him on f Boy Island.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes.
Speaker 4: But like, is the Beast a villain?
Speaker 1: No, the beast is the Beast is Bay.
Speaker 3: He took a woman, kidnapped her, locked her in his.
Speaker 5: Isn't that story the originals like Stockholm syndrome?
Speaker 3: Yes, and he's not a villain. But they fall in love,
Speaker 3: so none of that matters. M Love Congress, Listen, I
Speaker 3: don't make the rules, guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think he.
Speaker 2: Watched too many fairy tales from the early two thousands.
Speaker 4: We've updated our ideas on that, Simone.
Speaker 3: I am honestly so excited for this though. I think
Speaker 3: this is going to be so cool, just to see
Speaker 3: the aesthetics of it. I'm picturing like dark reds and
Speaker 3: blacks and purples and blues, and it's just gonna be
Speaker 3: so moody.
Speaker 5: Yes, and such a nice contrast to the like bright, shiny,
Speaker 5: bubbly Disney stuff that has you think about this, like
Speaker 5: this portion of Disney has really been ignored.
Speaker 6: Like it's not maybe for good reason.
Speaker 2: Why do you want dark, like eerie things at Disney.
Speaker 2: Disney is about the bright, the light, the fun, the joy,
Speaker 2: the rainbows, the princesses.
Speaker 5: We're gonna We're gonna step into the complexity. Yes of Disney.
Speaker 4: This is so twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 6: I mean, I have to tell you.
Speaker 5: It's going to attract an entire new, oh my god
Speaker 5: audience of people, and the parks have seen some decline
Speaker 5: in revenue sales. So like, this feels like a really
Speaker 5: interesting way.
Speaker 4: You will not see me, though, I do not want
Speaker 4: to be part of it.
Speaker 5: There you can say at Cinderella's Castle, Simona and I
Speaker 5: will go stare at the mirror and wish to be
Speaker 5: young again.
Speaker 2: I also haven't been to Disney World since I was
Speaker 2: like seven years old, and I live in.
Speaker 4: LA and I have never been to Disneyland.
Speaker 6: You've never been Disneyland ever?
Speaker 1: Missing out.
Speaker 2: Every guy I date is like, I want to take you,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm good. I don't want to stand
Speaker 2: in lines, I don't want to smell funnel cake.
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 3: I will say, it's actually a really fun date. It
Speaker 3: is a really fun date.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So so I am not married.
Speaker 1: I I know, I.
Speaker 6: Know probably yes, you old on real quick.
Speaker 5: You've just inspired something when you said funnel cake, funnel
Speaker 5: cake scented cologne.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think that's how Batho body works right now.
Speaker 3: But I actually do think theme parks are a wonderful
Speaker 3: date because we get so caught up in our adulting
Speaker 3: right and like we have so many responsibilities that weigh
Speaker 3: so heavily on us. When you go to a theme
Speaker 3: park with someone that you love, you get to like
Speaker 3: get snap into that junior high romance mode again. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's like it's just really fun to keep it
Speaker 3: light and like juvenile and silly with your partner. It
Speaker 3: brings out a different side.
Speaker 6: You are so right.
Speaker 5: Literally last week I had a friend reach out to
Speaker 5: to a few of us and say, hey, do you
Speaker 5: want to go to six Flags Magic Mountain, which is
Speaker 5: the theme park right here in California?
Speaker 4: What a nightmare?
Speaker 5: And I was initially I got the text was like,
Speaker 5: are you kidding me? Friday afternoon for a theme park
Speaker 5: for just a couple hours. This sounds like a nightmare.
Speaker 5: But I was like, you know what, why not. Let's
Speaker 5: just step out of our comfort zone.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 5: We had the most amazing time. You just like capture
Speaker 5: that like youth nostalgia. Danielle is staring at me like
Speaker 5: uh uh uh, because we.
Speaker 1: Talked about this and you went on roller coasters.
Speaker 6: Roller coaster where you.
Speaker 2: Were upside down, oh my god, hanging off of a ledge,
Speaker 2: which yes, you could not pay me to do that.
Speaker 2: Like people that enjoy that, I'm impressed by because it's
Speaker 2: so much adrenaline that I can't The court is all
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 6: It's so funny.
Speaker 5: We were on one of the roller coasters and we
Speaker 5: were going up and I was sitting next to the
Speaker 5: person next to me.
Speaker 6: I was like, these roller coasters, I think we're like a.
Speaker 5: Lot bigger when like I was a kid, and we
Speaker 5: were going up and up and up, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be so bad. And
Speaker 5: we I went over and I was like, ah, it
Speaker 5: was the most terrifying shit huge.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Were you shaking when you got off?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, shaking. There's one that you sit in a contraption
Speaker 5: and the track is above you, and then at the
Speaker 5: last minute they turn you up, so you're literally just
Speaker 5: hanging face down. You can't see anything you start going up.
Speaker 5: It was the most terrifying thing I think I had done.
Speaker 5: But I slept so good that night.
Speaker 1: I had a roller coaster hangover the day after six bags. Yeah, sentence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the Internet sometimes feels like a roller coaster.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Have you both noticed people are using the word demure
Speaker 3: on social media a lot more?
Speaker 4: Yes, in the last few days.
Speaker 2: So many of my friends have posted photos with the
Speaker 2: caption is this demure?
Speaker 1: Very demure?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: Our friend Lily Marson tweeted, can someone please fill me
Speaker 3: in on why everyone is suddenly using the word demure?
Speaker 1: So I don't feel old and confused.
Speaker 6: We got you.
Speaker 1: We are going to explain why demure is having a moment.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: There is a trans beauty and flincer on TikTok named
Speaker 3: Jules Lebron, and she typically shares makeup reviews and she
Speaker 3: currently has the Internet in a choke hold with this
Speaker 3: one silly viral phrase, very mindful, very demure.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 3: In a series of videos, she explains how she demurely
Speaker 3: reacts to certain situations. Basically, she's like giving all of
Speaker 3: us a cheeky etiquette lesson in how to navigate life
Speaker 3: with class.
Speaker 1: Let's listen.
Speaker 7: You see how I do my makeup for work, very demure,
Speaker 7: very mindful. I don't come to work with a green
Speaker 7: cut crease, don't look like a clown when I go
Speaker 7: to work. I don't do too much. I'm very mindful
Speaker 7: while I'm at work. See how I look very presentable.
Speaker 7: The way I came to the interview is the way
Speaker 7: I go to the job. A lot of you girls
Speaker 7: go to the interview looking like Marge Simpson and go
Speaker 7: to the job looking like Patty and Selma, not demure.
Speaker 4: Who's Patty and Selma from the Simpsons?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: The sisters, the smoking sisters.
Speaker 4: Do they wear a lot of makeup?
Speaker 6: They work at the DMV.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, So Lebron is basically calling all of
Speaker 3: us out. I guess we're doing too much and wearing
Speaker 3: too much makeup. Here's what Rolling Stone said about Lebron's
Speaker 3: respectability manifesto. They said, while demure's definition often involves modesty, piety,
Speaker 3: or being reserved, Lebron's version of demure is about being cutesy, respectable,
Speaker 3: and chill. So what do we think about having a
Speaker 3: demure fall?
Speaker 4: I hate this.
Speaker 2: I feel like I spent my entire teens and early
Speaker 2: twenties being trying to be demure and cutesy and all
Speaker 2: the things, and I am spending all of my thirties
Speaker 2: trying to be the exact opposite of modest or quiet
Speaker 2: or cutesy. And so I'm trying to have more of
Speaker 2: a brat summer brat fall.
Speaker 4: I am not trying to be demure.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, brat to have more fun, brats to
Speaker 1: have more fun.
Speaker 5: The irony and all of this, if you haven't actually
Speaker 5: seen the clip, is that this person is doing the most.
Speaker 4: Yes, she's in.
Speaker 3: Full glam while she's telling all of us to be demure.
Speaker 3: That's why this is all kind of confusing, because you're
Speaker 3: looking at her telling us to like be low key,
Speaker 3: and she's so not.
Speaker 4: I think she's in on the joke.
Speaker 6: Yes, and she's in on the joke. It's so funny,
Speaker 6: it's the most ridiculous.
Speaker 2: The thing I love about this, though, is that there
Speaker 2: are words that catch on in the zeitgeist that all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, all of us know. So like when
Speaker 2: we were growing up, we didn't have the internet. I
Speaker 2: grew up in Chicago, you grew up in Florida and
Speaker 2: Tennessee and California. We definitely probably had the same boots,
Speaker 2: we had the same type of jeans. Like we knew
Speaker 2: for some somehow we all knew kind of what was
Speaker 2: in the zeitgeist.
Speaker 1: And now kids have the.
Speaker 2: Internet and it's goblin mode boomer riz and.
Speaker 1: Skibbity gibbity toilet riz. I'm sorry what givity toilet ris?
Speaker 4: I must have missed that one.
Speaker 1: Oh you guys are almost.
Speaker 3: What does what is skibbity toilet riz?
Speaker 4: Thisunds disgusting?
Speaker 6: This is it's a potty training.
Speaker 3: This is no, no, no, this is what. This is
Speaker 3: what the kids say. Now, I'm not crazy, ask ask
Speaker 3: thank you crazy? It's is I heard from the booth
Speaker 3: just now from our producer. It'sy that the kids these
Speaker 3: days do be saying skibbity toilet ohio riz, I have
Speaker 3: no words.
Speaker 4: I don't understand what you just said. You might as
Speaker 4: well have spoken another language.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what it means.
Speaker 4: But so I just want to get a quick consensus
Speaker 4: on demure. Are you a voter? Down vote?
Speaker 6: Ooh, I'm down vote.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go up.
Speaker 5: I know I was thinking about it because I love.
Speaker 5: What I love about these types of things is the absurdity. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know so, like I love playing into the absurdity
Speaker 5: because the thing about Brat, like Bratt had such a
Speaker 5: negative like if you remove what we think about bratt
Speaker 5: presently in the summer, like that really has a negative connotation.
Speaker 5: If you were to call someone a brat like that
Speaker 5: was not a nice thing to say. And now we're
Speaker 5: all just like take it on. So I love the
Speaker 5: irony of these types of things.
Speaker 4: I like, you're right, like flipping a word on its
Speaker 4: head is very cool.
Speaker 3: I am I'm not demure. I'm never going to be
Speaker 3: that demure girl. I'm a rat all the way. But
Speaker 3: I am so here for what this moment is doing
Speaker 3: for this creator. For Jules Lebron, she posted a video
Speaker 3: where she was like, listen, if you've been sitting on
Speaker 3: an idea, like just make the TikTok, just put it
Speaker 3: out there, because me making tiktoks has changed my life.
Speaker 3: I'm being flown across the country now to host events
Speaker 3: and I can finance my transition. So I love what
Speaker 3: this is doing for her, and I do think it's
Speaker 3: I think it's really funny.
Speaker 4: The Internet's wild.
Speaker 1: The Internet is so wild.
Speaker 6: What a magical place. Okay, I think we can wrap.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, damn, you're hired. I mean again, well, all right, great,
Speaker 3: here we go.
Speaker 4: I think you have to come back every week.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, this has been the most fun. I
Speaker 5: feel like you said this earlier off camera, but I'm
Speaker 5: like the Gelman. Yeah you are Gelman showed up today.
Speaker 4: I showed out too.
Speaker 3: Let's do this again, please, this is so much fun.
Speaker 3: Thank you for popping off with us. Tim Palasola, Thank y'all.
Speaker 2: Tim Palazola is our bright side bestie, our showrunner, and
Speaker 2: an Emmy winning producer. We need to take a quick break,
Speaker 2: but we'll be right back. Stay with us. We're back,
Speaker 2: all right, simone. It's Friday. Let's get ready for the weekend.
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Speaker 3: Okay, this is a big milestone in my household. My
Speaker 3: son had his first ever day of Big Boys school.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's so cute. How was it?
Speaker 1: He handled it really well? Me not so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was doing a little bit of
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Speaker 3: you know, because it's a lot of change, and one
Speaker 3: of the things I read is that you can thrum
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Speaker 2: I remember being so excited about school supplies. Yes, certain folders, pencils, everything.
Speaker 3: So I went to Walmart and they had the most
Speaker 3: amazing back to school section, Like we stocked up water bottles, lunchboxes,
Speaker 3: and his favorite, his new holographic Teenage Mutant Ninja.
Speaker 1: Turtles backpack holographic?
Speaker 4: Was this for him or for you?
Speaker 1: This is for him?
Speaker 4: Are you sure?
Speaker 3: I can't really describe the excitement that I felt like
Speaker 3: when I was at the store buying it for him,
Speaker 3: because he wasn't there with me. I knew I was
Speaker 3: going to surprise him, and he was so elated just
Speaker 3: seeing this teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles backpack.
Speaker 1: So it was really cute.
Speaker 4: Okay, Simone, we need photos.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll get your photos.
Speaker 2: I'm not even going back to school and you're making
Speaker 2: me want to go check out the school supplies section.
Speaker 1: The school supplies section is lit, y'all.
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