Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Rachel.
Speaker 3: And I'm Charity.
Speaker 4: And today we have Bachelorette, Paradise, and Vanderpump Villa alum, Sean.
Speaker 3: What's up, guys?
Speaker 2: How are we doing?
Speaker 3: We're doing good. We're happy to have you.
Speaker 4: It's been a minute since I feel like you've been
Speaker 4: on a podcast, but since, honestly, I've seen you last, like,
Speaker 4: there's lots to discuss, lots.
Speaker 3: To get into.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get into it. I, for one, am
Speaker 1: so excited to get into it. We saw both of
Speaker 1: you on Vanderpump Villa last season. Sean, what was it
Speaker 1: like being in the villa compared to the Paradise Villa?
Speaker 3: Your time on Paradise?
Speaker 2: It was kind of heaven, honestly. Vanderpump Villa compared to,
Speaker 2: especially OG Bachelor in Paradise. We're talking Mexico Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 2: Vanderpump Villa, I literally felt like I was royalty. I
Speaker 2: felt like I was the king of England there. Everything
Speaker 2: was taken care of. The estate was incredible. The food,
Speaker 2: the company, it really was so much fun. That was probably,
Speaker 2: from all the stuff I've done, the most fun I've
Speaker 2: had filming anything, really. Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, and to go off of that, obviously, I did
Speaker 4: it with Sean. How would you describe the filming style
Speaker 4: or just how they produce? Because I think that's what
Speaker 4: for me felt like, Oh, this is like freedom.
Speaker 3: Like I can, I'm free to do whatever. So I
Speaker 3: wonder if it felt the same for you.
Speaker 2: It definitely felt very much like it didn't even feel produced.
Speaker 2: I felt like very natural in terms of what was
Speaker 2: going on. I mean, obviously we had structure from our
Speaker 2: day to day in terms of like, we're going from
Speaker 2: this event to this like tea party, whatever we're doing,
Speaker 2: but like in terms of them looking for things for television,
Speaker 2: they kind of trusted us to have fun and be ourselves.
Speaker 2: And they felt like they can make a show out
Speaker 2: of us being ourselves instead of trying to grab stuff
Speaker 2: and like stir up drama that isn't necessary. So it
Speaker 2: was a very relaxing filming style. I loved it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm curious because I wasn't there. What is something or
Speaker 1: what happened behind the scenes? Because we filmed for so
Speaker 1: long and only 10% gets shown. Can you share anything
Speaker 1: that maybe the audience didn't see?
Speaker 2: Oh man, I feel like..
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to begin. There was so much.
Speaker 3: The drama, obviously. That's what I.
Speaker 2: Want to know. Well, what's funny is like, I thought
Speaker 2: when we were filming and the cast of Vanderpump Villa
Speaker 2: did a really good job of not letting us into
Speaker 2: their own drama. So when we watched it back, I
Speaker 2: don't know, Charity, if you felt the same thing. It
Speaker 2: was like a different show. I was like, when did
Speaker 2: this happen? They were screaming when we were in the
Speaker 2: room next door. Like the Hannah Marciano stuff. We had
Speaker 2: no idea. Like I truly had no idea. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: much so I was like trying to get Marciano to
Speaker 2: like hook me up with Hannah. I'm like, yo, grab
Speaker 2: Hannah back. I didn't realize that this was going on
Speaker 2: at the same time. So that was a little jarring.
Speaker 2: I was like, you should have told me, man. I
Speaker 2: felt like an idiot watching him back. Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I watched it on FaceTime with like Jess and Mercedes.
Speaker 4: And like, I think the whole time, like our draws
Speaker 4: were on the floor because we were like, she didn't
Speaker 4: know half the stuff that obviously was going on with
Speaker 4: her little situation with Nick. And then me and Mercedes
Speaker 4: were just like, when did this happen? We were kind
Speaker 4: of like in la-la land. I mean, I was enjoying
Speaker 4: myself regardless because I wasn't like the single people there, like, you.
Speaker 3: Know, flirting and doing whatever.
Speaker 4: But it definitely was like so insane to watch that
Speaker 4: because it did feel like a different show for a second.
Speaker 4: But speaking of Hannah and Marciano, we did see a
Speaker 4: little bit. Like, you know, you had a couple little
Speaker 4: sessions with Hannah, little make-out sessions. Sessions. how was that
Speaker 4: like how how did that come to be did you
Speaker 4: obviously I mean I know now like you guys are
Speaker 4: not together anything but explain or walk us through like
Speaker 4: kind of that experience yeah well I.
Speaker 2: Feel like I uh I don't know when we were
Speaker 2: going we were taking the flight out there we like
Speaker 2: land in England land in London I'm like I like
Speaker 2: you kind of figure out what's your role to play in.
Speaker 3: All of this, right?
Speaker 2: Like what is your role to go out and have fun?
Speaker 2: And like, I basically got pitched, Vanderbilt got pitched to me.
Speaker 2: It's like, we're going to go and literally have a vacation,
Speaker 2: have fun. And like, whatever happens happens, but like, we're
Speaker 2: here to make a television show. So make sure, you know,
Speaker 2: we're bachelor people. We have to have a little bit
Speaker 2: of romance. You can't just not have us there, you know?
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it got clipped or not,
Speaker 2: but I was like, if there was rehab for guys
Speaker 2: addicted to hot blondes, I'd probably be in it. So like,
Speaker 2: you know, Hannah immediately and Rachel, obviously back in the
Speaker 2: day in paradise, you kind of, you know, that's, that happened.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I, she didn't come out immediately. You, you, you,
Speaker 2: come on.
Speaker 3: You and Jess. You and Jess. Oh my gosh. Wait,
Speaker 3: keep going. Cause I want to know all the.
Speaker 2: Backstory with Hannah. Yeah. It really was like you, they,
Speaker 2: it was so funny. So when we pull up to
Speaker 2: the estate, they're just sitting like on the steps waiting
Speaker 2: for us for our arrival. So like, we're getting paraded
Speaker 2: through the entire cast and like the single people on
Speaker 2: the show, you know, John B, myself, who we thought, Xavier,
Speaker 2: who we thought, but wasn't single when we were going
Speaker 2: through it. But we're like, it's like, you know, pick your,
Speaker 2: like take a pick. Like, who do you like?
Speaker 3: Do they say that?
Speaker 2: Do they say pick your person?
Speaker 3: No, but it was like, yeah.
Speaker 1: In other words, do they say that?
Speaker 2: Eh.
Speaker 3: Kinda.
Speaker 2: It wasn't, it wasn't like, forced upon you they were
Speaker 2: very much like hey if you're interested in someone like
Speaker 2: let us know like we'll try to get you guys
Speaker 2: away from each other which is great but it wasn't
Speaker 2: like you have to go and like make out with
Speaker 2: this girl you have to go do this it was
Speaker 2: very much if you're interested let us know we can
Speaker 2: kind of help you coordinate the situation and I don't
Speaker 2: know like Vanderpump Villa they it was much more of
Speaker 2: um they knew they're on television where I feel like
Speaker 2: sometimes in the bachelor world like you kind of get
Speaker 2: in a weird sense where you don't feel like you're
Speaker 2: on television. Like they were there to like play up
Speaker 2: the reactions. They, they know they had a job to
Speaker 2: do as well. So it was, it made for a
Speaker 2: really fun, you know, a couple of days in London.
Speaker 3: I'm curious.
Speaker 1: Wait, with that question, would you say that the Vanderpump
Speaker 1: Villa cast is more fake or like acting a little
Speaker 1: bit more than let's say the bachelor cast?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say fake. I don't know, Charity. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: say fake. Fake's not the right word. I would say
Speaker 2: like the reaction slash like things are maybe a tad
Speaker 2: embellished to a degree. I would also say they were
Speaker 2: very much more in the camp of they did not
Speaker 2: care how they came across on television, which I feel
Speaker 2: like is way different than the Bachelor universe where I
Speaker 2: feel like people care too much. So there should be
Speaker 2: like a healthy medium of like having fun, like not
Speaker 2: really caring what people are going to think and being
Speaker 2: your authentic self. but also not overplaying the drama or
Speaker 2: like looking for it in a sense. I thought it
Speaker 2: was a healthy medium from, from the Vanderpump crew, but
Speaker 2: they definitely knew that, Hey, you know, like I'm a,
Speaker 2: I'm not here because I'm a great housekeeper, you know,
Speaker 2: like that's not why I'm on the show. Cause I
Speaker 2: can make a great bed.
Speaker 3: So. No, I feel like. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4: And also who they cast, their personality types, like would
Speaker 4: someone like Marciano do really good on Paradise?
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: But also it's like he is indeed the type that
Speaker 4: does not care how.
Speaker 3: He comes across clearly.
Speaker 4: So I'm like that man's here to do whatever, have fun,
Speaker 4: like ruffle feathers. And I think obviously it makes him
Speaker 4: very dynamic and polarizing, which like we can sense as
Speaker 4: people who are like guests of the villa, but also- Like,
Speaker 4: the audience members can see that, or audience can see
Speaker 4: that watching it back. So I do think it's also, like,
Speaker 4: a combination of who they cast. And obviously someone like Hagen, too. Like,
Speaker 4: insane personality. Like, he is so funny.
Speaker 3: So funny. Had the best time with him. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: I do think it's, like, it's a combination of it all.
Speaker 4: But it's very interesting because... they seem to get along
Speaker 4: but not get along at the same time.
Speaker 3: It's very interesting. They're like all best friends but hate
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so interesting. Yeah, Hagen was like probably
Speaker 2: one of the funniest people that like I've got a
Speaker 2: chance to do anything with really. But what's funny and
Speaker 2: I think what makes Vanderpump Villa unique and similar to
Speaker 2: like the Bachelor in Paradise style of interviews, right? Like
Speaker 2: you get so much information from the confessionals and the
Speaker 2: ITMs where like you see Marciano and Hagen's ITMs they're
Speaker 2: very much giving them that personality type. Where like in person,
Speaker 2: when we're hanging out with them, I didn't feel like
Speaker 2: it was that, you know, crazy. But like in the
Speaker 2: moment you watch the show and like, you know, Marciano
Speaker 2: is going crazy in ITM. Higgins have these funny ass one-liners.
Speaker 2: Like that really adds to their personality. But yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I am curious too, as a viewer, I watched
Speaker 1: all of Vanderpump Villa and the way Bachelor Nation acts
Speaker 1: compared to to the rest of the shows, why do
Speaker 1: you think that we go in there.
Speaker 3: And act like that?
Speaker 1: Everyone was having a romantic moment. It was like the
Speaker 1: magical music was playing. What is it about us that
Speaker 1: makes us do that?
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't know you were going down the
Speaker 2: romantic route. I always thought you were going down the
Speaker 2: way more, like, completely normal and had, like, a good
Speaker 2: time and a respectful route. Jess ran out of a
Speaker 2: car into a man's arms, and.
Speaker 1: John B was, like, having a garden moment.
Speaker 3: Like, hand behind the head.
Speaker 2: All right, John B's garden moment.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't give that, like, the three of them.
Speaker 2: I know, literally.
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Compared to the other shows, Bachelor was putting it on
Speaker 1: so thick.
Speaker 2: Well, we also weren't ruining the mansion. The group before
Speaker 2: us literally flooded it. We're acting like complete animals in
Speaker 2: a sense. We were very much normal and respectful and
Speaker 2: very courteous to the staff. And I feel like we
Speaker 2: didn't take advantage of, even though we could get whatever
Speaker 2: we wanted at any time, we were very respectful that,
Speaker 2: please and thank you, don't take it for granted and
Speaker 2: be nice to the staff. So that was where I
Speaker 2: kind of went with it.
Speaker 4: And to go, off of that I feel like John
Speaker 4: B and Jess are both like you know they like
Speaker 4: to lean into that lover like role a little bit
Speaker 4: not too much but like that's just them at least
Speaker 4: Jess and Like Jess is a lover girl and hopeless romantic.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, we, I think we all eventually saw
Speaker 4: the writing on the wall with Nick, but like the
Speaker 4: ending scene, I was in the other car. So I
Speaker 4: didn't even realize that happened until after I was like,
Speaker 4: wait a minute.
Speaker 3: I screamed. I'm like, this is so bachelor. I can't
Speaker 3: even get over the moment.
Speaker 4: It should have been a who'd you, but we missed,
Speaker 4: missed opportunity, missed opportunity. But no, I think they, they
Speaker 4: knew who to kind of like let lean into that role.
Speaker 4: And that's why the producing aspect of it all too
Speaker 4: is like, They kind of just let those, I don't
Speaker 4: want to say organic moments, but those moments flourish on
Speaker 4: our own versus like, oh, you know, like we're going
Speaker 4: to set this up.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. Very interesting.
Speaker 2: But they knew like Nick was perfect. Nick like that
Speaker 2: can lay it out. He can flirt with anybody like Jesse.
Speaker 2: Eat that up. It was like a match made in heaven,
Speaker 2: especially with like the Scottish accent. So they kind of
Speaker 2: knew what they were doing. They're good at their jobs.
Speaker 1: Right. Right.
Speaker 4: Sean, did you have a chance to talk to Lisa
Speaker 4: a lot or not really?
Speaker 2: Yes and no. I feel like anytime she was around,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be around her because she's the
Speaker 2: person that I get asked the most questions about. Like,
Speaker 2: how was Lisa when you went to the villa? And
Speaker 2: I thought she was so lovely. Like, carry yourself like royalty.
Speaker 2: She was so sweet to us. I wish I got
Speaker 2: more time with her, but not to the level of
Speaker 2: you did, like where you got like certain chats alone,
Speaker 2: but she was amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm obsessed with that woman.
Speaker 4: I just need to know. I'm like, did anyone else
Speaker 4: get a taste? Because she is perfection.
Speaker 3: I love Lisa. I'm so jealous.
Speaker 1: I would die to sit down with Lisa Vanderpump. But
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Sean, about your experience on
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise because you got to experience both the
Speaker 1: old Paradise and the new Paradise. What did you like
Speaker 1: about the new style? What didn't you like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the accommodations of the new paradise were great.
Speaker 2: It made it a lot more relaxing and actually felt
Speaker 2: like a vacation. Like what we did in Mexico felt
Speaker 2: much more like Survivor at times. And even Charity, you
Speaker 2: came down that season. So like it wasn't, you know, luxury.
Speaker 2: It was pretty much, I mean, I still, people don't
Speaker 2: realize that we were sleeping in bunk beds that were
Speaker 2: covered in sand. It was open air in the middle
Speaker 2: of June in Mexico. It was not ideal living situations.
Speaker 2: And also not the most romantic environment when everyone's like
Speaker 2: sweating and just like really can't even get comfortable. So
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the Costa Rica accommodations. I thought the
Speaker 2: concept of the show, like the competition, I thought that
Speaker 2: was a good idea. I feel like it was poorly
Speaker 2: executed from like not letting the cast really lean into
Speaker 2: it in a sense or not casting for that specifically,
Speaker 2: where a lot of people were still in the regular
Speaker 2: paradise romantic phase and everyone like wasn't really leaning into
Speaker 2: the competition side of it as much as I was.
Speaker 2: So like, it was fun to film. I enjoyed it,
Speaker 2: but like the living accommodations were better. I wish that
Speaker 2: the viewing experience for the viewers was more like the
Speaker 2: old one, like less serious, like give us our ITMs
Speaker 2: where people are cracking up and making jokes. I didn't
Speaker 2: feel like we got that in the new season, even
Speaker 2: though when we were filming, I can only speak for
Speaker 2: myself when we're in the ITMs and whatnot, like, I
Speaker 2: feel like there was a lot better material that never
Speaker 2: saw the light of day and the viewers didn't see
Speaker 2: that I wish people got a chance to kind of view.
Speaker 1: What do you wish that they saw? What was the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes you were speaking of?
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's so much comedic elements to what
Speaker 2: we were doing throughout the day. Even just us hanging out, laughing,
Speaker 2: having a good time. When you go back and I
Speaker 2: guess rewatch the Paradise season, I saw Jeremy– call Susie
Speaker 2: like a million times. Like everything was centered around that, right?
Speaker 2: Like I didn't- That was crazy. Oh, nuts for sure.
Speaker 2: But that centered around like the entirety of like the
Speaker 2: storyline for so long, like six, seven episodes. And I
Speaker 2: think it made it feel much more heavy than what
Speaker 2: the experience of the cast was on Paradise.
Speaker 4: And you say like when you were talking about leaning
Speaker 4: into like the competition aspect of it all, Do you
Speaker 4: feel like, obviously we see you kind of handled that
Speaker 4: very well. Like you were very open and honest about like, okay, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a competition.
Speaker 3: Like let's, let's get dirty. Like let's do this.
Speaker 4: But there was a lot of people that were, you
Speaker 4: can almost sense were probably hesitant to really fully lean
Speaker 4: into that. Do you feel like that's because maybe they
Speaker 4: were worried about like how they.
Speaker 3: Would come across like in terms of edits? or do
Speaker 3: you feel like it was something else?
Speaker 4: Like they just truly didn't want to like have a
Speaker 4: money game competition aspect of the show?
Speaker 2: I feel like it's the first, I feel like they
Speaker 2: were just worried about how Bachelor Nation would view a
Speaker 2: competition show. And like when you start, making decisions in
Speaker 2: the sense of money or love even like the question
Speaker 2: at the end like for love and for money yeah
Speaker 2: sorry like we met these people 30 years ago i'm
Speaker 2: taking the half a million dollars and i'm not even apologizing.
Speaker 3: About it to the bank account.
Speaker 2: Yeah like listen i've we've been you guys have been
Speaker 2: in the universe for a long time i've been here
Speaker 2: for a long time we know how bachelor nation relationships
Speaker 2: typically work out and obviously charity and diet and joey
Speaker 2: and kelsey like they're definitely like outliers in the sense
Speaker 2: katie and zach But the majority of people that I
Speaker 2: meet on these shows don't work out. So if you're
Speaker 2: offering me $ 500, 000 for, you know, that, I'm taking it.
Speaker 2: And I'm not apologizing for it.
Speaker 3: Honestly, smart approach. Like, not wrong. I can't fault you there.
Speaker 1: Speaking of relationships, you did form a connection with Alicia.
Speaker 1: What was it about her that attracted.
Speaker 3: You to her?
Speaker 1: And how did that go out of paradise, from paradise
Speaker 1: world into the real world?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the initial attraction. So that night, um,
Speaker 2: it's kind of funny to put yourself back in those shoes. Well,
Speaker 2: so the behind the scenes of that is that was,
Speaker 2: we had, we're getting rain delays a lot because there
Speaker 2: was so much rain going on in Costa Rica. So
Speaker 2: when we get told we're going to dress up as
Speaker 2: birds and dance around, like you have to get a
Speaker 2: couple shots of liquid courage in you, you know, unfortunately
Speaker 2: we dress up, I'm like covered in glitter and paint
Speaker 2: and whatnot. I don't really remember that night that well,
Speaker 2: like even Jill leaving.
Speaker 1: You don't remember your kiss with April?
Speaker 2: I remember that. It's tough to forget. Post-performance, post-peacocky, I
Speaker 2: guess you can say. I don't really remember much. And then, like,
Speaker 2: Jill left. I remember, like, my reaction was just like, what? Like,
Speaker 2: so taken aback. And it kind of wasn't, like, the
Speaker 2: nicest reaction, so to speak. It was almost so, you know,
Speaker 2: just taken off guard. But what initially attracted me to
Speaker 2: Alicia was– I guess, her outfit. She's stunning. She has
Speaker 2: beautiful eyes. And that was kind of the initial thing.
Speaker 2: And also, like, me and Jill, we definitely had friend vibes. Like,
Speaker 2: Jill's the best. She's so fun to be around. But
Speaker 2: we definitely both kind of knew we were friends. And
Speaker 2: we weren't– Jill and I aren't the ones who'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: let's put on a show for the cameras. And, like,
Speaker 2: let's pretend to be, like, romantically interested. Like, that's not
Speaker 2: either of our personalities. So it was a new person
Speaker 2: coming in, and I knew that Jill and I were
Speaker 2: just better off as friends. So that's kind of what
Speaker 2: initially attracted us.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4: So how did you and like Alicia's relationship kind of
Speaker 4: manifest throughout the, obviously we see to the end of Paradise,
Speaker 4: but once you guys like kind of transition into the
Speaker 4: real world.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So like end of Paradise, we, we go back and like, she,
Speaker 2: she at that point in time was like living in Tampa.
Speaker 2: So I was like, this is crazy. You know, we have,
Speaker 2: we're living in the same area, which on a show
Speaker 2: doesn't typically happen. You kind of got to, one person
Speaker 2: has to move. And that's the reason why it's really
Speaker 2: tough to make these relationships work post shows. So I
Speaker 2: was like, this is awesome. So we get back, have
Speaker 2: fun for like a week, meet her, meet her mom. And,
Speaker 2: you know, just started hanging out, get back in the
Speaker 2: real world. And then she told me, she was like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go visit my sister out in LA.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, cool. I'll see you in
Speaker 2: like a week. She just never came back. So like, yeah,
Speaker 2: she stayed out in LA and I didn't want to
Speaker 2: do long distance. I didn't see myself moving to LA.
Speaker 2: I got a house in Tampa. It was also like,
Speaker 2: you know, those are things you kind of got to
Speaker 2: plan out. So, Um, I didn't want to do distance.
Speaker 2: You don't want to do distance and then just, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of fizzled out that way. I haven't talked to
Speaker 2: her in forever basically.
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Probably almost a year. Like after the reunion of paradise
Speaker 2: where like, I felt I really, you know, could have,
Speaker 2: I had her back in a situation where I didn't
Speaker 2: necessarily thought I needed to. Um, so yeah, after reunion
Speaker 2: really haven't talked since.
Speaker 4: And when you say had her back, you mean the
Speaker 4: Kat and Dale drama of it all or something else?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I didn't feel like at that point she
Speaker 2: had kind of gone out to LA. I didn't feel
Speaker 2: like I really, in the viewer's sense, we had just
Speaker 2: gotten off the beach and you're connected. But we had
Speaker 2: been separated for two, three months. And I felt like
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily owe her me defending her in a sense.
Speaker 2: And I just didn't want to pile on in that way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's kind of what I mean by having
Speaker 2: her back when I didn't really need to.
Speaker 1: I remember when Paradise was airing, there were kind of
Speaker 1: rumors that you guys were together and then you weren't together.
Speaker 1: And then she was saying you guys are best friends.
Speaker 1: What was happening when all those rumors were swirling?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird. That was a really weird time
Speaker 2: because that was kind of around when we were out
Speaker 2: in London, Charity, and like Diane and the team and
Speaker 2: all the guys had gone to Europe like probably two
Speaker 2: or three weeks before that.
Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
Speaker 2: Galvanizing around Europe, having a blast. It was so much fun.
Speaker 2: And like all this stuff's going on where I like
Speaker 2: she would do it like a happy hour interview. And
Speaker 2: I felt like she would say stuff that wasn't necessarily,
Speaker 2: you know, true. Yeah. well it would just be like
Speaker 2: oh like the whole like Dale type of stuff where
Speaker 2: it kind of put me as like a last resort
Speaker 2: option but I'm like well if you felt that way
Speaker 2: like why would you go back to like Tampa why
Speaker 2: would we be dating so I felt a little bit
Speaker 2: uncomfortable in some of the ways that she explained things
Speaker 2: so then I'd bring it up and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. No big deal. And then like,
Speaker 2: it would continue on like that in that sense. So
Speaker 2: it was just, I felt confused watching it back because
Speaker 2: I didn't know the stuff that we were seeing on
Speaker 2: TV and then seeing interviews. And yeah, it just was
Speaker 2: an interesting and confusing time, I would say.
Speaker 1: Were you guys officially dating like boyfriend and girlfriend?
Speaker 2: When we left the show? Yes. As it was airing,
Speaker 2: like probably like end of July, middle of July, end
Speaker 2: of July is when we like broke up I guess
Speaker 2: you said it's when she moved out to LA so
Speaker 2: like leaving the show yes and then we broke up
Speaker 2: pretty shortly after leaving the show.
Speaker 4: That's all right honestly it's totally fine we're all good
Speaker 4: where do things I mean honestly I know I'm like
Speaker 4: where do things lie with you and Kat like I
Speaker 4: feel like you guys are literally brother and sister like
Speaker 4: y'all have such a brother sister relationship it's like y'all
Speaker 4: hate each other but there will literally always be love
Speaker 4: there and I think people don't really understand that especially
Speaker 4: like in Bachelor Nation it's like how could they like,
Speaker 4: how could Sean do this? Or how could Kat, you know?
Speaker 4: And it's like, this is like, this is not a
Speaker 4: surprise to me. I'm like, this is so on brand
Speaker 4: for them too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It worked fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like we definitely don't talk as much as we used to,
Speaker 2: but like, there's never, there's not like, at least on
Speaker 2: my side, there's definitely no hatred towards Kat or anything
Speaker 2: like that. I mean, we went to Vegas for New Year's.
Speaker 2: Everything is great. And I know she's doing really well
Speaker 2: with her, her boyfriend. So like very happy for her
Speaker 2: and she seems very happy. So yeah, no bad blood.
Speaker 2: We are, I would say kind of like that brother sister,
Speaker 2: like relationship type of sense where, you know, sometimes you
Speaker 2: get into little fights and you.
Speaker 3: Know, everything moves over. That's also cat with anybody.
Speaker 4: I'm like, there's always something brewing, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And she seems like she's having an awesome summer
Speaker 2: and having fun. So every time I see her on Instagram,
Speaker 2: she's always smiling. It looks like she's doing good. So
Speaker 2: I'm happy.
Speaker 1: Speaking of dating, Sean, what is your dating life like today?
Speaker 2: Um, I would say it's good, healthy, I guess you
Speaker 2: can say. We love healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would say in terms of dating, I made the
Speaker 2: decision this summer to leave Tampa and come back up
Speaker 2: to New York for the summer, just because, just because
Speaker 2: it's so freaking hot down in Florida. Like Rachel, you
Speaker 2: grew up there. It is miserable from June until, you know, September.
Speaker 2: So I'm single and I have a little dog that's
Speaker 2: about in, I work remotely so I can go and
Speaker 2: do whatever, wherever. So came up here this summer, definitely
Speaker 2: upstate New York's not the most plentiful of like attractive
Speaker 2: single women. Like where I grew up is very, very
Speaker 2: much middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1: There is a lack of hot blondes in upstate New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a lack of hop. This is my rehab, actually.
Speaker 2: This is like my way to get over it.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're up here. We're having a good time.
Speaker 2: But like I travel so much. I was in Montauk
Speaker 2: for the fourth. I'm going to L.A. here in a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I'm going back down to Tampa to
Speaker 2: check on my house. I have this place called Saratoga
Speaker 2: 30 minutes from me, which is, you know, a big
Speaker 2: horse racing scene where everyone comes in for the summer.
Speaker 2: So yeah. I'm having a blast. Definitely meeting a lot
Speaker 2: of people and you know, it's a healthy dating relationship.
Speaker 2: It's just tough to have consistency when you're bouncing around
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So healthy just means, you know, you're having fun. No,
Speaker 4: you know, no heartstrings, whatever attached. It's just doing, doing Sean.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Just having a lot of fun. And, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I feel like, man, it's, uh, I enjoy having freedom
Speaker 2: in life. And I feel like with my type of
Speaker 2: lifestyle right now, like traveling so much, you can meet
Speaker 2: people that also kind of want the same. And you
Speaker 2: can have very fun relationships and friendships that form. And
Speaker 2: as long as I feel like people are both open
Speaker 2: and honest about what they're looking for and not lead
Speaker 2: people astray, you can have success and have fun and
Speaker 2: be a good person doing that type of stuff. So
Speaker 2: I think that's important.
Speaker 3: So if you were to be single, let's say in
Speaker 3: a couple months, is there any interest in going back
Speaker 3: to Paradise? What's that look like? I'm like, we don't know.
Speaker 2: Are you done?
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I'm done.
Speaker 2: And it's nothing to do. I think Paradise is fun.
Speaker 2: I truly enjoyed all of my time on all the
Speaker 2: Bachelor shows I did. I've made so many good friends.
Speaker 2: I've had such a good experience with it. I just
Speaker 2: feel like reality TV dating hasn't necessarily worked out the
Speaker 2: best for me and may not necessarily be the best
Speaker 2: for like my personality type. Whereas I would love to
Speaker 2: do another television show. I just don't want to be
Speaker 2: forced into dating where if I can just be myself,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a lot better of a situation
Speaker 2: for me long term. So I'm looking for more of
Speaker 2: a project like that where there might be a romance involved,
Speaker 2: but you're not like forced to date, if that makes
Speaker 2: any sense. So there might be something like that coming
Speaker 2: down the... Coming up here in the next couple of months,
Speaker 2: so we'll see.
Speaker 1: Are you saying you're going on another show?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm saying that. I feel like
Speaker 2: there's been conversations about it, but we'll have to figure
Speaker 2: out what's going on. This has nothing to do with
Speaker 2: The Bachelor, so it should be an interesting concept and
Speaker 2: I think would be fun. It's so, it's like not
Speaker 2: early on, but it is in a sense where, you know,
Speaker 2: some of these things that you get talked to about
Speaker 2: it and like have a lot of conversations, then it
Speaker 2: never ends up, you know, formulating anything. So I don't
Speaker 2: want to jinx it, but things look like it would
Speaker 2: be a really fun thing to do. And I do
Speaker 2: want to do it. So we'll see if it ends
Speaker 2: up working out.
Speaker 3: Exciting.
Speaker 1: We're rooting for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love this.
Speaker 4: And speaking of your dog really quick, um, cause Dot
Speaker 4: told me to ask about it. He said, ask Sean
Speaker 4: about his dog, which we saw your dog had surgery
Speaker 4: or like something happened.
Speaker 3: How is he doing?
Speaker 2: He's doing good. He had like a mast cell tumor
Speaker 2: like directly on his chest. So it was on the skin.
Speaker 2: So they took it out. Unfortunately, he's a French bulldog.
Speaker 2: So he's very muscular in general. And it literally looks
Speaker 2: like he got cut from like chest to chest. Like
Speaker 2: his entire chest got torn up.
Speaker 3: It was a huge scar, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's doing good. The problem is he's like
Speaker 2: impossible to not– he wants to be around you at
Speaker 2: all times. So if I'm on the couch, he jumps
Speaker 2: up on the couch. He's really not supposed to be
Speaker 2: doing that. And he popped his stitches the other day.
Speaker 2: So we had to go put him under again and
Speaker 2: like restitch him up. So he's doing a little bit
Speaker 2: better now. I got him on these sedative pills, but
Speaker 2: there's this one area that is a really tough place
Speaker 2: to heal. So I'm happy that it wasn't anything crazy serious,
Speaker 2: but he's doing good. And like, you know, a week,
Speaker 2: a day after he got like put to sleep and
Speaker 2: stitched up, he acts like the same dog. I'm like,
Speaker 2: this dog is just He just wants to be around
Speaker 2: you and have fun. Thank you for asking though. He's
Speaker 2: doing good.
Speaker 3: No, of course. I was like, I saw that picture
Speaker 3: and I was like, what happened? I was like, don't.
Speaker 3: He's like, no, Sean said he's fine. I was like, okay.
Speaker 2: So I thought it was going to be like a
Speaker 2: dime size incision. Like the tumor was very, it wasn't big.
Speaker 2: I came back. It literally looks like the Joker scars,
Speaker 2: like across his entire chest. And it was, it's mad.
Speaker 2: It literally is from his shoulder to shoulder.
Speaker 4: Did they explain why this, like why it had to
Speaker 4: be like the incision had to be so big?
Speaker 2: They said that it was, uh, they had to make
Speaker 2: sure they got all of like the tumor. And I
Speaker 2: guess the tumor, it's almost like an iceberg is the
Speaker 2: way they explained it to me. So like the top
Speaker 2: of it's not necessarily all of it. I'm not a,
Speaker 2: I'm not a vet, but they, they were very calm
Speaker 2: when they were explaining it to me and they were
Speaker 2: very happy with the results. And I'm like, this dog
Speaker 2: looks like you just harvested all of his organs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was crazy, but he's doing good. So I'm happy.
Speaker 2: And he's like the best thing. He's so, he's so
Speaker 2: fun to be around. He's so, so loving.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 3: Do you have him with you in New York?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's actually sitting outside here. I'm going to go
Speaker 2: grab him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's say hi. Sean spoils that dog,
Speaker 3: like cooks steaks for him. I'm like, please, no. Steak
Speaker 3: is crazy. Sean is like the bougiest man. Dog dad?
Speaker 3: Dog dad, yes. i am i am cash is cashmere.
Speaker 4: Oh hi oh you're cute hello he looks very calm he.
Speaker 2: Just got a second set of the pill so he's
Speaker 2: just hanging out but if you can see it's like
Speaker 2: he got really cut up there.
Speaker 4: I see a little bit yeah yeah oh my goodness
Speaker 4: poor baby sweet boy.
Speaker 2: He's doing good though I do. So I make his
Speaker 2: own food. I heard you guys talking about how bougie
Speaker 2: the dog dad is. Like literally he eats better than
Speaker 2: most of America, like ground beef, rice, veggies. So when
Speaker 2: I had him as a puppy, he was, he would,
Speaker 2: he stopped eating. Like he wouldn't eat his kibble. So
Speaker 2: then the vet was like, you should, you know, I
Speaker 2: definitely try to make his own food. And since I
Speaker 2: started making his own food, he won't eat anything else.
Speaker 2: So like now I'm stuck. in the kitchen, you know,
Speaker 2: making ground beef and rice and veggies.
Speaker 4: And he's like, no, it's like when you fly first class,
Speaker 4: once you do it, you can't go back.
Speaker 3: Oh, we love that. Well, I'm glad he's doing good. Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, happy to see him. Happy to see him happy
Speaker 4: and calm right now.
Speaker 3: So all is well. Good, good, good. Okay. Um, Sean,
Speaker 3: we are going to play a little quick game if
Speaker 3: that's okay.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: Okay, it is our behind the scenes photo deep dive.
Speaker 3: We've kind of been doing this recently with a lot
Speaker 3: of our guests.
Speaker 4: And it's been really fun so basically we're gonna show
Speaker 4: you some BTS photos the audience has never seen them
Speaker 4: before so We're going to have to explain what's happening
Speaker 4: in the photo for them. And for our audience who
Speaker 4: is listening on audio only, you can head over to
Speaker 4: Bachelor Happy Hour to look at the photos yourself. So
Speaker 4: we're going to share our first one. And let's see
Speaker 4: what we got in the archives.
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Oh, boy.
Speaker 3: I'm screaming.
Speaker 1: Sean, if you could describe it for the audience and
Speaker 1: then give us the behind the scenes and tell us
Speaker 1: how many champagnes.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to describe it. are
Speaker 3: going on in this picture.
Speaker 2: Okay. So for the audience, this is the, uh, birds
Speaker 2: of paradise dance. Uh, I'm in the bathroom and I'm
Speaker 2: in a, uh, peacock skirt with, uh, wings attached to
Speaker 2: my back with, uh, I guess that's not Sharpie, but
Speaker 2: basically Sharpie that says, I want to flock, which is
Speaker 2: a play of words of, uh, you know, you can
Speaker 2: pull up, fill in the gaps. And I had this, um,
Speaker 2: bird mask on, it almost looks like I'm going to
Speaker 2: a masquerade. And that, by the look of my eyes
Speaker 2: and my smile, that's at least seven champagnes deep.
Speaker 3: As you should be in paradise.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: As you should be. Was this on a rain delay
Speaker 1: or was this before.
Speaker 3: It all started?
Speaker 2: That's definitely like mid-rain delay. And we were just, they
Speaker 2: had nothing to do besides just sit in the hotel
Speaker 2: room and drink.
Speaker 3: This photo is the summary.
Speaker 4: Of all of that.
Speaker 1: The mask looks a little lopsided, but it looks great nevertheless.
Speaker 2: The wings are lopsided. Everything's lopsided.
Speaker 3: Not great.
Speaker 2: Not great. Oh, my God.
Speaker 3: No way.
Speaker 2: No way. I love this photo.
Speaker 3: I love this one. So good.
Speaker 2: This is a good one. Oh, man. What's so funny
Speaker 2: is last night I was up in Saratoga and I
Speaker 2: was at like a horse racing sale. And I was
Speaker 2: talking to this lady that's from California. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm from Oceanside. I'm like, no freaking way.
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is Sean on my season of The
Speaker 4: Bachelorette at our Barbie date.
Speaker 3: Obviously, he was a double denim kin.
Speaker 4: And I think it's either before he's about to perform
Speaker 4: or right after.
Speaker 3: But Sean obviously crushed that group date. He got the
Speaker 3: group date rose. So, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Sean, tell us behind the scenes. I can't tell if
Speaker 4: this is before you performed or after.
Speaker 2: I can't tell either. I'm literally wearing no shirt, and
Speaker 2: I'm wearing Ken underwear with jeans that should definitely be
Speaker 2: pulled up a tad, but I had to apparently show
Speaker 2: off the Ken logo on the underwear. I don't know
Speaker 2: if this is before or after, but you can tell
Speaker 2: if you look at my face, my nose is so burnt.
Speaker 2: My face is so sunburned.
Speaker 3: Oh, I zoomed in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that was because when we did the dodgeball day,
Speaker 2: we were outside for so long in the sun. So
Speaker 2: I was completely burned. My face like peeled off. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that was, that was the most fun day. I, even
Speaker 2: if I didn't like win the group date or anything,
Speaker 2: that was like so much fun. Cause I think the
Speaker 2: guys really leaned into it. We did have like truly
Speaker 2: such a fun time. And yeah, I, that was so
Speaker 2: much like Oceanside, California. What a, what a place.
Speaker 4: We literally made the most out of it because I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, shit's that interesting. But no, this was
Speaker 4: such a fun day. And I was like, honestly, very
Speaker 4: surprised that you guys all collectively leaned into it because
Speaker 4: I was like, OK, they're going to be some that's
Speaker 4: going to be like non like half ass it. But
Speaker 4: I was like, wait, no, you guys all took your
Speaker 4: like kins very serious.
Speaker 3: And I was like, this is so spot on for Sean.
Speaker 3: I was like, everyone picked the right like profile. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: It's like I could not imagine you as anything else
Speaker 4: besides double denim. Dot as like the astronaut. Like John
Speaker 4: B as the nude kid.
Speaker 3: Like it's crazy. It all worked out. So it was
Speaker 3: such a fun day. Truly probably the best. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was so much fun. And like us, we picked
Speaker 2: it ourselves and it was random. Like you, sometimes you
Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to get the option that you wanted to,
Speaker 2: but I feel like, like you said, everyone morphed into
Speaker 2: their characters and it was, it was perfect. It was
Speaker 2: so much fun.
Speaker 3: Okay, we have the next. Please, this is crazy. That's me.
Speaker 3: That's when I was blonde. I'm like both of you guys. Wait,
Speaker 3: this is so insane.
Speaker 2: Oh, my Lord. Look at my.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of champagne happening in this picture. For
Speaker 1: those listening, it was from season nine Bachelor in Paradise
Speaker 1: Rose Ceremony. I think we were just like about to
Speaker 1: start the night.
Speaker 3: I hope to end it. I probably had three champagnes already.
Speaker 1: We're like you're about to start so fun yes that
Speaker 1: was start that was definitely.
Speaker 2: Start that was before we like began our night and
Speaker 2: uh we definitely looked like we've been drinking all day
Speaker 2: my hair looks like ace ventura when he like sticks
Speaker 2: his head out the window and it's just all over
Speaker 2: the place wait.
Speaker 1: This is so cute oh that was yeah paradise season
Speaker 1: nine so.
Speaker 4: Fun what week of like do you guys remember what
Speaker 4: uh rose ceremony week this was like was this early.
Speaker 1: I think it was like first one Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Honestly, I usually can tell from
Speaker 2: like at that point, like how long my hair got.
Speaker 2: And like at first I kept trying to do it.
Speaker 2: And then eventually you just give up and you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not even like using a blow dryer
Speaker 2: or gel. It's just it's going to be all over
Speaker 2: the place. So that looks a couple a couple weeks in.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was I think I maybe was giving
Speaker 2: Rachel my rose that night. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3: Obviously.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think, because I was sitting in front of you.
Speaker 1: I think we were all sitting in front of who
Speaker 1: we were giving the rose to.
Speaker 3: Way cute.
Speaker 2: Cute.
Speaker 3: This dress is so cute on you, Rachel.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Carrie loved that one, too.
Speaker 3: I loved that. Wait, so cute. Okay, that's so cute. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's all the pigs, but these are, like, really
Speaker 3: fun ones.
Speaker 2: Those are good ones. Definitely bring back some good, fond memories,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: Perfect. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Sean.
Speaker 4: And thank you for obviously coming on Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 4: We are so happy that we got to catch up
Speaker 4: with you. Where can our listeners follow and keep.
Speaker 3: Up with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm pretty active on Instagram at Sean McLaughlin, but
Speaker 2: it was so great catching up with you guys. If
Speaker 2: I was John B, I would have made a joke
Speaker 2: like I'm on with both of my exes, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: So I didn't make that joke. So but it was
Speaker 2: so great talking to you guys.
Speaker 4: Classic joke it's like we already know I'm like it's
Speaker 4: always keyed up from John B but perfect okay and
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