1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Gratitude is actually the gateway to forgiveness if you want 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: to forgiven as someone who's wronged you. Forgiveness is about 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: telling them that you forgive them. It's about you stopping 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: holding a grudge that takes energy. You have to find 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: gratitude first for everything in the world. So yeah, that 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: means finding gratitude for the pandemic. One good thing came 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: out of it, even if a lot of other garbage 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: came out of it. 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello everyone, Emily a body here bringing you Episode 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: one forty four of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: I sit down with inspiring individuals to talk about everything 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: from their big wins to how they've gotten through some 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: of life's toughest moments. On the show, you can expect vulnerability, motivation, 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: and candid discussions with everyone from top athletes to aspiring 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: entrepreneurs on what it really takes to follow your passions. 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: My mission is simple to inspire you to be your 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: best self, move with intention, and have some fun along 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: the way. Today I am chatting with Dave Asprey And 19 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: now you've probably heard of Dave before, but may not 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: be exactly sure why. Dave is the creator of the 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: bulletproof diet and bulletproof coffee. And he's also the founder 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: of the biohacking movement, which sounds jazzy because it is Dave. 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: As he defines biohacking, I got you. It is the 24 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: art and science of changing the environment around you and 25 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: inside of you so that you have full control over 26 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: your own biology. 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: I know, I know. 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: In today's episode we get into all of that. He 29 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: tells me about a time in his life when he 30 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: weighed three hundred pounds, was a computer hacker and dealing 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: with a slew of health issues, including arthritis, which led 32 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: him into learning about. 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: And inventing biohacking. 34 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: Dave started spending a considerable amount of money on getting 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: better than he had ever been, and of course we 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: address this in today's episode. 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: Not all of us have hundreds of thousands. 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: Of dollars, maybe even more to dedicate to something like this, 39 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: but we do want to level up our health, so naturally, Dave, 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: he gives me, gives the hurdlers some low cost and 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: free examples of how we can. 42 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: Do just that, whether it be through things that we should. 43 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: Implement or cut out of our diet, or other simple 44 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: tactics like hitting a cold plunge and we talk about 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: why freezing your butt off in some water can do 46 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: your body good. He also tells me about his impressive 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: career history, how he made a small fortune by the 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: time he was twenty six and then lost it by 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: the time he was twenty eight, and then we talk 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: about his journey to building the Bulletproof brand and business. 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: I love how this episode could off with a beautiful 52 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: discussion on the importance of gratitude, and if I'm being 53 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: really honest, I did not know how this interview was 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: going to go, but I found Dave to be so interesting, 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: so delightful, and everything he had to say literally, I 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: was just fascinated. 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: So a lot of good content in here. 58 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: Dave also has a new book out this week called 59 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: Fast This Way. 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I feel like this 119 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: man needs no introduction. He's the creator of Bulletproof coffee, 120 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: the founder of Bulletproof three sixty, a multiple New York 121 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: Times best selling off there. 122 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: How do you doing today, Dave? 123 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing really well. 124 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: Really well. I love the adjective here. 125 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: Well. 126 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: I got two and a half hours of deep sleep 127 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: last night and an hour and a half of rem 128 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: so I'm super charged today. 129 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: I love the statistics that we've got going on here. 130 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: Fun fact before we get into the real meat and potatoes, 131 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: I was actually working at Rodale when we were launching 132 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: the Bulletproof diet, so it's kind of fun now for 133 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: me a little career moment to come full circle with you. 134 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh you were Were you in that conference room with 135 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: like forty people while I was in there? 136 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure I was. Yeah. We did a lot of 137 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: fun stuff for the promotion of that book. 138 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: It was amazing because I was walking down the street 139 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: in New York and I found this cool, like army 140 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: ranger vest at a thrift shop, Like, I'm going to 141 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: buy this and I'm going to wear an actual almost 142 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: bulletproof ish vest to this meeting, which probably wasn't the 143 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: New York thing to do, but it was fun. 144 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: I love that. 145 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: I love that, Okay, And then I think a fun 146 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: thing for us to do to kick start our time 147 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: together here today. I'd love to talk a little bit 148 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: about gratitude because I've heard you talk about it before, 149 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: and it's not something that we all talk about all 150 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: the time, but I think that in the contents of 151 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: what we're doing this year, it's really important. 152 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: So if you could just talk. 153 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: To me a little bit about how having gratitude can 154 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: impact our bodies. 155 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Gratitude is the thing that turns off stress. You cannot 156 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: actually feel gratitude and be angry at something at the 157 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: same time, so you can at least interrupt the anger 158 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: by finding something to be grateful for. And the weird 159 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: thing about gratitude from a neuroscience perspective is that you 160 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: can actually see the effect of gratitude in brain waves. 161 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: So you can just be really pissed off at whatever 162 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: policy is affecting your business right now or whatever else, 163 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: and then you can say, wait a minute, you know, 164 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: I still have a roof up from my head, and 165 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: you just ponder it for a second and you see 166 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: it shift and the way your heart beats and the 167 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: way your brain works, and gratitude is actually the gateway 168 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: to forgiveness. And this is a part of the neuroscience 169 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: program that I run where if you want to forgiven 170 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: as someone who's wronged you, forgiveness is about telling them 171 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: that you forgive them. It's about you stopping holding a 172 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: grudge that takes energy. You have to find gratitude first 173 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: for everything in the world. So yeah, that means finding 174 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: gratitude for the pandemic. One good thing came out of it, 175 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: even if a lot of other garbage came out of. 176 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: It, for sure, And I love what you just said 177 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: also about how having gratitude can impact your heartbeat and 178 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: the way that it impacts that is actually with our 179 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 2: heart rate variability. 180 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: Is that right? 181 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you nailed it. 182 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: Ah, look at me go, I'm and I mean, we'll 183 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: talk about biohacking, but I have become a little bit 184 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: obsessive over my whoop strap, which is teaching me things 185 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: that I never really I looked into before. When it 186 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: comes to my body and my data and so many 187 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: of the things that that you are so well versed with. 188 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense to say, hey, how 189 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: am I doing in ways that I probably don't know 190 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: how to feel yet. And if you wake up in 191 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: the morning and say, oh, look, my biomonitor shows me 192 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: that I really recovered well last night. Today I can 193 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: push myself hard. That's precious knowledge because otherwise, if you 194 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: woke up and you were kind of fried and you 195 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: didn't really realize how fried you were, and you push hard, 196 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: you'll just get more fried. And this is why doing 197 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: the same exercise routine, the same fasting routine, the same whatever, 198 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: every day, maybe you should customize your routine for the day. 199 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 3: Biohacking. 200 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: I want to break it down a little bit for 201 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: the hurdlers as I love to call them, as to 202 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: what it is. So, what does it mean to be 203 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: a biohacker? 204 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: Well, when I started the biohacking movement, I really pondered 205 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: the definition, and I came up with this. It's the 206 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: art and science of changing the environment around you and 207 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: inside of you so that you have full control over 208 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: your own biology. 209 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's loosely put. 210 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean because it's like, well, what does 211 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: it really mean? It's different than everything else, and it 212 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: is now a word in the English Dictionary, was added 213 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen as one of eight hundred and eighty 214 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: new words. And my name's in the definition. Yeah, but 215 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: they didn't use my definition. They used a similar one 216 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: around some similar stuff. 217 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: But I mean, how to be someone that's kind of 218 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: you know, you're saying my name is next to the 219 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 2: definition of this, to be someone that's so on the 220 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: forefront of this, I mean, how does one even get 221 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,119 Speaker 2: into biohacking? So give me, give me some of your backstory, 222 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: how we arrived at being even interested in getting into 223 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: this kind of work. 224 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: The easiest way to get into biohacking is to suffer greatly. 225 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: All you have to do is do that and get 226 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: tired of it, and you'll find your way there. Certainly 227 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: I put a name on this practice, but it's something 228 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: that we've been doing for thousands of years. And one 229 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: arm of it is how do I improve myself? And 230 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: the other arm of it is how do I heal myself? 231 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: And most people have some things they want to improve 232 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: and some things that they would benefit from healing, whether 233 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: they know about them or not. And in my case, 234 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: I weighed three hundred pounds and I started having cognitive 235 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: dysfunction in my mid twenties. When my career was taking off. 236 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: I was doing phenomenal things and I couldn't remember stuff, 237 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: and I was at high risk of stroke and heart 238 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: attack and pre diabetic, and I had arthritis that I've 239 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: had since I was a teenager in my knees, and like, 240 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: I have to fix this, and the doctors don't seem 241 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: like they can do it. I'm a computer hacker, that's 242 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: actually my job, so maybe I could hack this because 243 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like anyone's going to do it for me. 244 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: So it was that got me started. It was desperation, frankly, 245 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: but eventually I spent three four hundred thousand dollars fixing myself. 246 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't really take that much, but you spend a 247 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: lot of money on stuff that doesn't work because the 248 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: knowledge isn't well put together. And then I started spending 249 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: money on getting better than I ever had been and 250 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: going beyond what's normal. And I still don't know the 251 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: upper limits of human life span or cognitive enhancement. But 252 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy with where I am. 253 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: Now, pretty happy with where you are now. 254 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: It's interesting to me as someone who also at one 255 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: point I was definitely overweight, and so to hear you 256 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:22,239 Speaker 2: and your story, what if anything specific can you attribute 257 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: you know, the earlier unhealthy habits that you had in 258 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: your life too. 259 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,359 Speaker 1: I used to believe that it was it was my fault, 260 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: and actually it was my fault because I am in 261 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: large part in control of my environment. But I thought 262 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: it was a moral failing and it was a hardware 263 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: problem that I had. So it was there were some 264 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: behavioral things. I was afraid of being lonely, and I 265 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: was afraid of being hungry because I'd been taught that 266 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: if you don't eat every six times a day, you'll 267 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: go into starvation mode. And so I had beliefs that 268 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: were not true that informed my actions. And then I 269 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: also had by a lot stuff going on. I lived 270 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: in a house that had toxic mold, and toxic mold 271 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: turns down your ability to use your food to make energy, 272 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: so you get fat. And it also makes you emotionally 273 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: less able to control your emotions, so you act like 274 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: a jerk all the time. You're tired, and you keep 275 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: gaining weight and getting stretch marks, and it sucks. 276 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: How did you know that your house had toxic mold. 277 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: Well, I've become kind of an expert in it because 278 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: I did figure this out by the time I was 279 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: thirty or so. It was a lot of work, to 280 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the point I funded and shot a documentary mouldimovie dot com. 281 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: It's a free thing anyone can see just to say, look, 282 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: this is a real problem affecting one hundred million people. 283 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: It matters. But the symptoms I had, even as a 284 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: kid growing up in a basement that had been flooded, 285 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: was I would have chronic nosebleeds all the time, which 286 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: is a classic symptom, nightmares, joint pain, rashes, and you 287 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: get all these different symptoms from them. And I've interviewed 288 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: so many really successful people who have just been taken 289 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: out when they had a leak behind their dishwasher. Just 290 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: the dumbest things. But this stuff that's highly poisonous will 291 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: grow in your house if you're not watching for it. 292 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: It's something to be aware of, and it's not something 293 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: to be afraid of. It's just to know. But if 294 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: people are saying I moved into a new house and 295 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: I gained thirty pounds and I wake up feeling hungover 296 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: when I sleep twelve hours and my life is falling apart, 297 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think you might want to get an 298 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: air test, my friend, if. 299 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: Only we knew, and maybe then in that case, like 300 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: spending two three, four hundred dollars, which can definitely come 301 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: off like a big chunk of change, but on some 302 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: sort of an air purifier at the very least, is 303 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: like a good place to start if we're talking about 304 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: spending money on our health. 305 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: It is, in fact one of the I have different 306 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: companies with different missions, but one of my companies, called 307 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: home Biotic, makes a probiotic you spray around your house 308 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: that eats mold as it's fuel source. And the mission 309 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: for my company is to stop the world's toxic mold problem. 310 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big thing, especially for kids. It's 311 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: a major cause of Alzheimer's. Dale Britison, in his book 312 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: The End of Alzheimer's says, it's one of the big 313 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: three things that are triggered it. So we have this 314 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, parts per million toxins floating round. Smells a 315 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: little bit swampy in that house. Oh, don't worry. Well yeah, 316 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: I agree, don't worry, but maybe don't go in there either. 317 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: Right, And so when you're you know, in your mid 318 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: twenties heading toward thirty, you're feeling a little lost. You're 319 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: in the midst of this hurdle moment, like, is there 320 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: one specific event that happens that you say to yourself, like, Okay, 321 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: it's time to make a change. 322 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: Well, I made six million dollars when I was twenty 323 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: six casual. Yeah, that was that was kind of fun. 324 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: And how does one make six million dollars at twenty six? 325 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: The hurdlers want to know. 326 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: I was a co founder of a part of the 327 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: company that held Google's first servers when all of the 328 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, the Facebook was still the Facebook and all 329 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: of those companies were just being formed. My company held 330 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: their servers and ran their data centers. And I made 331 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: that six million dollars and I lost it two years 332 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: later when I was twenty eight. 333 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: Not an easy thing to go through. 334 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Oh god, no, that's one of the who top stressors, 335 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: like losing a family members, you know, losing your life's fortune. 336 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: And it taught me a lot though, because number one, 337 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I have enough money. I've already had 338 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: my moment of fame. In my early twenties. I was 339 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: the first person that's selling anything over the internet, believe 340 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: it or not. The first product ever sold before there 341 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: was a web browser was a caffeine T shirt that 342 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: said caffeine my drug of choice. And so I'm going, 343 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: all right, I've tried fame. I was in my picture 344 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: in a magazine. I wasn't very happy when I had 345 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: six million dollars. I'm like, I'll be happy and I 346 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: have ten million dollars, which is a real stupid thing 347 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: to think and say, but I did do that, and 348 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: I just was, Okay, none of those make you happy. 349 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: And that was a really important learning. But it also 350 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: gave me the opportunity to say nothing else matters except 351 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: for your energy and maybe your health, but really your energy, 352 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: because if you have enough energy, you can make time, 353 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: or you can make money. But if you have time 354 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: and money but you have no energy, it doesn't matter. 355 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: You'll just sleep. And so for me, I started focusing 356 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: on how do I feel? How do I make myself 357 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: feel good all the time? How do I know that 358 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: if I press on the accelerator in my life that 359 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: I can go faster? Because I was panicking. I was 360 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: like in a car and you're pushing all the way 361 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: to the floor and it's slowing down and you can't 362 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: push anymore. It doesn't matter how much you try, It 363 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: doesn't matter much you want is that there isn't power there. 364 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: And I just never wanted to feel that again. So 365 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: I said, all right, I'm going to have to hack this. 366 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: If I can teach people how to build you know, 367 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: a million server networks where you don't know what's going on, 368 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: but somehow you control it, how different can the body be? 369 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: And it turns out that systems biology perspective, you can 370 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: hack the body, and a lot of functional medicine has 371 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: moved in this direction. And I just was saying, how 372 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: do I get the neuroscientists to talk to the bodybuilders 373 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: to talk to the Navy seals, to talk to the astronauts, 374 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: to talk to people doing anti aging research. How do 375 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: be able to get together? Because what everyone wants, whether you 376 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: know you're like I was when I was twenty five, 377 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: you know what I wanted most? I wanted enough energy 378 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: to do what I wanted, which was mostly, Man, I'm 379 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: going to be really crass about this, when I was 380 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: in my mid twenties, mostly I just wanted to get 381 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: laid and make my career happen, because that's your hormones 382 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: are kind of like that when you're that age. So, 383 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: but that wasn't where I was putting my energy, right, 384 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: But that was where I wanted to put it because 385 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: I didn't have enough. And so I just realized we 386 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: all want energy to control our biology. And if that means, look, 387 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: I have an hour and a half commute, I want 388 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: to come home and I don't want to be a 389 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: zombie for my kids that's important, right. Or I want 390 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: to be a good teacher, or I want to be 391 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, I want to be a football player, whatever. 392 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: But you just wanted your body to do what you wanted, 393 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: and that's what unites all of us. 394 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: I think the difference between you and so many or 395 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: just perhaps you know, the success story versus the stagnant 396 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: is that you felt this way and then you were 397 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: ready to take action. And a lot of people say 398 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: I need to do this, I want to do this. 399 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: But it's that tipping point, right, it's the I'm going 400 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: to get up and do it that so many people 401 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: struggle with, whether you know it's a similar situation we're 402 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: talking about weight loss or going after a career shift 403 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: or a career change, like the unknown is what stops 404 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: so many people from just saying, all right, let's make 405 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: this happen. 406 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: If there's fear of the unknown, there's also just a 407 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: kind of a learned helplessness where you go to the 408 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: doctor and the doctor's going to fix you. And for me, 409 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: what really helped. I went to the doctor once and 410 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: I said, I've done a lot of research and something 411 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: really isn't working right. The one thing I've been able 412 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: to find out is that vitamin C seems to help me. 413 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: When I take it, I feel a little bit better. 414 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: And he looked at me and said, stop, it could 415 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: kill you. Don't take vitamin C. 416 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 417 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: And I looked at him and I said, what about 418 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: Linus Pauling. Now, Linus Pauling took ninety grams of vitamin 419 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: C a day and won two Nobel Prizes, and it's 420 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: pretty well known in the health community for doing that. 421 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: The doctor's like, I don't know who that is. And 422 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: I just realized I'm dealing with someone who lives in 423 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: a different reality than me. And I had been on 424 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: antibiotics for fifteen years for chronic sinus infections, another toxic 425 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: old thing, and I'm just hold on a second here. 426 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: I am not dealing with someone who's an expert in 427 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: what I'm dealing with, which is I want limitless energy. 428 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: I want to feel good when I wake up in 429 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: the morning. I don't want pain in my body all day. 430 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: I don't want to lose words when I'm trying to 431 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: think of things. I want to be able to pay 432 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: attention all day long, every day to things that I 433 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: love and then I care about and that I think 434 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: matter in the world. And it's not working right now. 435 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: And this guy has no clue. He thinks I'm lying. 436 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't believe me when I told him I worked 437 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: out an hour and a half a day, six days 438 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: a week for eighteen months to lose weight and I 439 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: still have a forty six inch waist. He's like, Oh, 440 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: that's because you're reading Snickers bars. I'm like, no, it's not. 441 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: It's because something isn't working. Everyone listening to this has 442 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: things that aren't working, even though they keep doing them. 443 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: I just resolve that I'm going to measure and see 444 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: what works. I'm going to do what's supposed to work, 445 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work, then I'm going to do 446 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: what's not supposed to work. And that led me to Tibet, 447 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: to learn meditation from the Masters, to do acupuncture, back 448 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: when everyone thought it was a fraud to try everything 449 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: with an open mind because of what I have to lose, 450 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: I already feel like crap all the time. 451 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: Right, So, then, in your steps to both losing weight 452 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: and learning how to hack your body, what would you 453 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: say became the first light bulb moment for you, Like 454 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: I'm really onto something and I'm starting to feel better. 455 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: One of the first lighte bolt moments happened pretty early on. 456 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: I'd already had three knee surgeries, and I was fat, 457 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: and I was going to the gym and I was eating, 458 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, a low fat diet. It just it wasn't working, 459 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: but I was doing it because it's what you did. 460 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: And I went to this coffee shop and I'm waiting 461 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: in line, and there's a bodybuilding magazine. Now, if you 462 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: go back into the nineties and a farming community where 463 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: I went to high school, generally men didn't look at 464 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: pictures of other men in bikinis because the other kids 465 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: would beat you up. Literally, that was the kind of 466 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: school I went to. So I picked up the Magaze 467 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: and I looked through it and it said, Hey, maybe 468 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: it's carbs that are making you fat. And I'm like, oh, 469 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: that's interesting. So, without really knowing what I was doing, 470 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: I took wheat out of my diet because it was 471 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: a carb, and magically I lost fifty pounds in three months. 472 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't even that hard, and my personality change because 473 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: wheat it can really mess with your head. But it 474 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: turns out it took me another ten years and a 475 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 1: lot of experiments to lose the other fifty pounds. And 476 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: that's what's happening now in the world of Keto, and 477 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: people are saying, oh, I heard about the Keto diet. 478 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna eat carbs. But it's easy to 479 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: lose some weight, the others will not go. And that 480 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: was why I wrote the Bulletproof Diet. It was simply that, look, 481 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: katosis is a small part of it, but you've got 482 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: to not eat the stuff that irritates your body, because 483 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: if your body's irritated all the time, your mind will 484 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: be irritated all the time, and you'll be wasting energy 485 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: all the time. My job now is to have no 486 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: wasted effort, to be really lazy where I don't want 487 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: thoughts on my head about what's for lunch, what's for lunch, 488 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: what's for lunch. I'd rather think about what am I 489 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: doing next to do something meaningful because I only have 490 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: space for one thought at a time there And so 491 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: it was that kind of a mindset to say, how 492 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: do I dialt this since I have more energy and 493 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: I can direct my attention where I want it and 494 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: remove distractions and eating toxins, whether they're plant based toxins 495 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: or chemical toxins and all it really does affect your 496 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: mental and your physical even your emotional state. 497 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to talk to you 498 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 2: about my sponsor, Green Chef, the first us DA certified 499 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: organic meal kit company green Chef. 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So then, what are 548 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: the other toxins that you have found are really just 549 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: no goes for diet and consumption. 550 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: There are four categories of toxins that I wrote about 551 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: in the Bulletproof Diet. The first one was lectins, and 552 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: since then the Plant Paradox came out, which really focused 553 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: a lot on luctins as well. And lutins are inflammatory 554 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: compounds of proteins that stick to sugars that are found 555 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: in the night shade family, like bell peppers and spicy 556 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: peppers and potatoes and tomatoes. Some people are sensitive, some aren't. 557 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: They're in legomes, they're in grains, and when you eat 558 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: those things, they tend to cause inflammation, puffiness, gut problems, 559 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: leaky gut. But you know what, they're a lot better 560 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: than starving. So we figured out we could eat these foods, 561 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: but that was because there wasn't anything like a grass 562 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: fed steak wandering around, or we would have eaten that 563 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: from an ancestral perspective. So the deal is, plants don't 564 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: want us to eat their babies, so they cover themselves 565 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: in toxins, and we selectively remove the toxins by peeling, 566 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: by cooking, et cetera, et cetera. But still there's stuff 567 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: that isn't good for us in some plants, so you 568 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: pull out those. You pull out oxalic acid, which is 569 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: present in kale and probably kales, nemesis kales causing kidney stones, 570 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: in joint pain and even vaginal pain, something called bulvidenia 571 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: in lots of people right now, and they just don't 572 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: know it. You get rid of your kale and your 573 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: raw spinach, and magically you feel better, And that's because 574 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: these things evolved so they wouldn't be overeaten by animals. 575 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: And then the third thing is phytates. When you go 576 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: on a plant based diet, your plant based proteins are 577 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: covered in phytic acid, which prevents your ability to absorb 578 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: zinc and magnesium and copper and the other minerals you 579 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: need so animals who eat lots of plants that are 580 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: full of phytates, unless you're a cow with three stomachs, 581 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: what happens is you can't absorb the other minerals, you 582 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: get weak, and then there's less of you, so you'll 583 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: stop eating the plants. It's all in balance. And the 584 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: fourth thing is called mycotoxins or mold toxins, And when 585 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: plants are growing in the field or when they're stored, 586 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: mold will grow in them. And some of these molds 587 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: are very toxic and they simulate estrogen, so they make 588 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: you puffy, they give you extra fat and your tissues, 589 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: and they cause cognitive dysfunction. They're linked with cancer in 590 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of studies, not just a few. So like, 591 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: what if we could just minimize those things and then 592 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: eat the foods that didn't have those And that became 593 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: the Bulletproof diet roadmap, And people have lost a million 594 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: pounds on the Bulletproof diet. So yeah, you can do 595 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: intermittent fasting. I have a new book, by the way, 596 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: just coming out. It's called Fast This Way, where I 597 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: teach people about how to do fasting in a way 598 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: that works. And you want to eat foods that don't 599 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: make you hungry. The things I just talked about, those 600 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: are the things that give you cravings. So if you'd 601 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: like to be able to skip breakfast occasionally without thinking 602 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: about food all the time, don't have that stuff for dinner, 603 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: it's not that hard. 604 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: You mentioned your trip abroad, and I'm sure that really 605 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: kind of started to shift your entire perspective. So after 606 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: a life changing trip like that, how do you know 607 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: what your next step is going to be. 608 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: There's something called serendipity where if you get a chance 609 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: to travel and kind it might be a couple of 610 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: years before that happens. I hope we turn travel back 611 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: on because it's important, especially when we're younger. But you're 612 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: not sure what's going to happen, and you're going to 613 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: allow things to happen the way they're going to happen. 614 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: So you don't know where you're going to be next 615 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: week because you're taking a month and you're traveling, and 616 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: you're going to do this thing called wandering, and I 617 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: feel like that's the most important thing. And you come 618 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: back from a trip like that, you can say, oh, 619 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: I've got you know, a job planned, or I know 620 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: what I'm going to do. But you can also say, 621 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: you know what, I was planning to do that, but 622 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: suddenly this other opportunity came. So it's willingness to just 623 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: look around and be open to what comes to you. 624 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible. I came back from my trip to 625 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: a nepall in TI Bed in China, and I said, 626 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to go be CEO of a wireless internet 627 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: company in Hawaii because I want to be able to serve. 628 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: And before I could do that, I got another job 629 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: opportunity in Silicon Valley that was a profound one of 630 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: people I'd worked with before I said, no, I'm actually 631 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: going to do that. I met my wife when I 632 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: came back from that trip. And I met my wife 633 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: not because I was planning to but because I got 634 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: a phone call randomly from a friend who said, you 635 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: have to come to this conference why and she just 636 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: kind of convinced me to come. Serendipitous and I went. 637 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: So it's not just being open, and that's the thing 638 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's too rigid, so you don't 639 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: have to know what's going to happen. But you can 640 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: just say I'm going to be curious about what happens. 641 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: Right, And so you come back and you go to 642 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: the conference, and you meet your wife, and then serendipitously, 643 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: do you start to be guided toward this. 644 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: Path of being your own boss entirely. 645 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: I've been an entrepreneur in Silicon Valley for a long time, 646 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: but it was always as a part of an entrepreneurial 647 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: focused company. The place where I made six million dollars. 648 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: I was a co founder of a part of the 649 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: company where we started a company inside a company, and 650 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: I'd always said, you know, someday I'll do my own 651 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: entrepreneurial thing. But that wasn't my goal with Bulletproof at all. 652 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: I just wanted to share the knowledge that had helped 653 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: me so much. I've been running an anti agent nonprofit 654 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: for twenty years, and I said, I think five people 655 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: are going to read this blog, and if it's the 656 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: right five people, it'll change their life so profoundly that 657 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: it'll be like a really high ROI I already made 658 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: a quarter million dollars a year. I had stock options, 659 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: I was a VP at a publicly traded company, and 660 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: I had two young kids. That's probably not the ideal 661 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: time to start a company. And when I started the blog. 662 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: More than two people, more than five people paid attention, 663 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: and it started growing and growing. And then I said, 664 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: I can't buy coffee that doesn't make me crash. Maybe 665 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: I can figure that one out. Maybe I can take 666 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: the ingredients for a bulletproof coffee and I can turn 667 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: those into products that I can't buy. And my whole 668 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: deal was, I'm going to make products I can't buy, 669 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: and it's going to be a small side gig. And 670 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: then I called my friends from Silicon Valley in the 671 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: venture capital world where I worked, and I said, guys, 672 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: you're never going to invest in my company because I 673 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: know I've sat in your partner meetings. This isn't really 674 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: a venture backable company. But you should give me fifty 675 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a personal money so I can buy some 676 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: I can buy some more coffee inventory, and I'll give 677 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: you a good return. And they came back and said, 678 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: how about nine million dollars? And I'm like, and I 679 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: really I sat down, I pondered, and I said, Okay, 680 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: if what I have is as good as I think 681 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: it is, and it does for people what I know 682 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: it does, and now we have a lot more research 683 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: about Alzheimer's and inflammation, and like, we just know so much. 684 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: Ten years after I started this, I said, I think 685 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: I have a moral obligation to go big. So I 686 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: took the money. That's what it was. But it wasn't 687 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: about I have to be my own boss. You know, 688 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to show the world that's what I did 689 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: in my thirties. What this was about was how do 690 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: I help a lot of people because I want no 691 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: one to go through the amount of pain that I 692 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: went through in my life. And some of it was 693 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: emotional pain, somewhat was self inflicted, but a lot of 694 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: it was just not knowing the manual for the human body. 695 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: And I didn't know how to eat. I didn't know 696 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: how to not eat, which is why fasting is a 697 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: big focus for me now. I didn't understand the neuroscience. 698 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: I did understand gratitude. I'd understand forgiveness. I didn't understand 699 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: having a mission versus being selfish all that stuff. Who 700 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: teaches that anymore? I don't even know. But I thought 701 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: maybe I could share with enough people to make a difference. 702 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: So when it comes to the coffee, let's start there. 703 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: Talk to me about bulletproof coffee and what makes it 704 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 2: so special? 705 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: Well, bulletproof coffee came as an idea to me because 706 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: on the side of Mount Kaylash, it's a remote part 707 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: of western Tibet, eighteen thousand feet elevation, ten degrees below zero. 708 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm feeling like crap. And a little Tibetan woman about 709 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: half my height. I'm six', four So i'm serious about 710 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: half my eye and she gives me a bowl of 711 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: yac bettered, tea AND i felt better THAN i had 712 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: in a couple of, years like this is not even. 713 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: Possible there's no air up. Here how could this? Happen 714 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: AND i came back To Silicon valley AND i put 715 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: some butter and some tea and it tasted like crap 716 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: and it didn't. Work SO i bought some real expensive 717 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: tea and it didn't. Work so THEN i bought twenty 718 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: five kinds of, butter And i'm, like wait a. Minute 719 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 1: two of the butters. Work they're the grass fed. Butters 720 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: they're the closest to yaqutter because they have real fat in. 721 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: Them that's. Interesting and THEN i, said, What i'd given 722 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: up coffee for five years BECAUSE i would always crash 723 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: AFTER i had. COFFEE i thought MAYBE i was. Allergic 724 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: SO i had a cup of. COFFEE i felt, great, like, 725 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: YEAH i. Fixed the next DAY i had a different 726 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: cup of. COFFEE i felt like, crap And i'm, like, 727 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: ah it's not, me it's the different coffee has different 728 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: things in, it kind of like different bud has different 729 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: things in it, too and different strains or different. Things 730 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: SO i did the, research AND i figured out coffee 731 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: has toxins that make a lot of people feel like. 732 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: Crap and THE us doesn't have any laws protecting us 733 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: from those. Toxins so when coffee is rejected By, china 734 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: rejected By, japan rejected By, europe it's legal to sell 735 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: in THE us And, canada and they send it here 736 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: and then we drink it and then we get angry 737 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: two hours later and want. Sugar SO i decided THAT 738 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: i was going to put in infrastructure to change green 739 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: coffee processing and then lab test it WHEN i was, 740 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: done to see if we could make coffee that didn't 741 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: have that effect on. Me AND i, THOUGHT i thought 742 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: maybe one hundred people would want the COFFEE i was 743 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: going to. MAKE i was a little bit, wrong. 744 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 3: Just a little, bit just a little bit. 745 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: Wrong you blend it with, butter and you blend it 746 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: with another oil CALLED mct, oil which at this point functional, 747 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: COFFEE mct oil and college and another product that those 748 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: are three major industry categories That bulletproof. Created but when 749 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: you blend it without the, collagen just the two oils 750 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: and the, coffee it tastes like a. Latte turns on 751 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: what the way you would feel after two days of. 752 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: Fasting you get a ton of energy and you stop 753 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: caring about. Food that's the big, thing. 754 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: Right so then talk to me about how you integrate 755 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: The bulletproof coffee into a regular day BECAUSE i know, 756 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 2: that as you, mentioned fasting is a part of. 757 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: It in my new book on, FASTING i expound on 758 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: the psychology of, fasting and there are three hacks that 759 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: you can do in order to allow yourself to, fast 760 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: get the benefits of, fasting but not feel any. Hunger 761 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: because it's one. Thing if you want to, do you 762 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: a spiritual fast in a, cave which is WHAT i, 763 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: did a four day fast in a cave all by 764 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: myself as a part of writing the. Book but if 765 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to go there because you have a, 766 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: job you have a, life you have, demands but you 767 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: want to look, good you wanted to feel, good you 768 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: wanted the. Clarity and you skip, breakfast you're going to 769 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: get hypoglybitchi around eleven thirty and then you're gonna, Like 770 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: i'm just going to power through, it but you're not 771 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: going to be, yourself and a lot of us don't want. 772 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: That so you can use black coffee by itself during 773 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 1: a fast and you'll be less. Hungry you can PUT 774 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: mct oil and butter in it to make it a 775 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: bulletr of coffee and you really won't be hungry and 776 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: you'll have more, energy but your fasting machinery in the 777 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: body will still be. Running and if you want to 778 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: do the newest fasting hack that's in fast this, way 779 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: it is prebiotic. Fiber you can put certain kinds of 780 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: fiber into your coffee or into something else and you drink. 781 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: That it doesn't change your blood sugar, levels it doesn't 782 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: change your protein, levels but it also turns off hunger 783 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: by manipulating hunger. Hormones so all of a, sudden eleven 784 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: o'clock rolls around on a normal day when you have, 785 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: breakfast if someone puts a croissant or a muffin or 786 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: a donut front of. You you're going to look at 787 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: that thing and it's going to look back at, you 788 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: and you're going to have this little inner dialogue about. 789 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: IT i want the muffin and they say, no, no 790 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: and then you eat half of it and you feel. 791 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: Guilty but what really happens now is someone sets it 792 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: in front of, you this, muffin and you just don't 793 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: care because you genuinely don't want to eat. It there's 794 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: no thought about. It it's just, oh like there's a pencil, 795 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: there but you don't need to. Write. That to me 796 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: is liberation BECAUSE i didn't have to use wielpower to 797 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: do something to tell myself not to do something THAT 798 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: i didn't actually want to. Do and that's what you're 799 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: getting with this soluble fiber with bulletproof coffee in the 800 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: middle of a. Fast it's been liberating for. 801 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 3: Me it's been. 802 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 2: Liberating SO i, MEAN i know that you want to 803 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: live until one hundred and? 804 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: Eighty is that? 805 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: Right until at least one hundred and? EIGHTY i don't 806 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: want to put artificial limits on. 807 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: IT i respect, That but the question then becomes with 808 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: this extra, time AS i would, say because as we, 809 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: know most people won't get to this coveted. Place what 810 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: are your biggest you know what do you really hope 811 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: to get with that extra? 812 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: Time, EMILY i don't agree with the assumption that everyone 813 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: or most of us aren't going to get to that. Place. 814 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: OOH i believe that we are going to see a 815 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: profound shift in the next ten years in what it 816 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: means to be. Old AND i say this because it's 817 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: already happened and you don't know. It starting in about 818 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five to two, thousand there was an epidemic 819 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: and it was an epidemic of people who were older 820 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,959 Speaker 1: or are elders who are sixty, five who were, saying 821 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: you know, what f you. Buddy you can Say i'm, 822 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: elderly But i'm not BECAUSE i still want to, WORK 823 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: i still feel, good my brain, WORKS i like. This 824 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: and the scientists are, like, well we're not so. Sure 825 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: so they did something called a grip strength, analysis and 826 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: they found that that's, funny people are not as weak 827 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: as they used to. Be so in, fact it was 828 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: fifty Five i'm saying this little bit. Backwards it was 829 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: when you were fifty five year, elderly and they had 830 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: to move it to sixty. Five so the definition of 831 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: elderly shifted out ten years thirty years. Ago, well so 832 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: it turns out you're still as strong at sixty five 833 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: as you were at fifty. Five and what's going to 834 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: happen as all of us age is that we're not 835 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: going to have thin, skin hunched over diapers and putting 836 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: your car keys in the fridge and all those things 837 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: that were terrified of. Justifiably so what we are, lacking 838 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: the biggest pandemic of, all is our village elders are 839 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: missing because they Have, alzheimer's because they have, diabetes because 840 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: they can't get out of, bed and we are having 841 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: to care for them instead of them having enough energy 842 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: to care for themselves and share their wisdom with the next, 843 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: two three or four. Generations that's how it's always. Been 844 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: there's always a few village, elders and we need to 845 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: bring that back in because if we understand there's a 846 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: great chance you will be around one hundred and twenty 847 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: years from. Now do you think you're going to throw 848 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: plastic in the. Ocean, no we need a long term, 849 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: vision and a long term vision that affects, us not 850 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: just some vague idea of future. Generations so you better 851 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: start building soil, now because you will be present in 852 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: a world where we don't have enough soil to grow. 853 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: Food if you don't do something, now why do you 854 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: THINK i live on an organic farm Where i'm building 855 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: soil as fast AS i, can partly BECAUSE i like to, 856 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: eat but also just because it's. Fun so having a 857 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: long time span and understanding this is not just for wealthy, 858 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: People this is happening for all of. Us in, fact 859 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 1: they announced yesterday a new. Drug they found you take 860 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: it four times and it reverses age related decline in 861 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: memory from four doses of a. Drug what the drug 862 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: does is fix. Metabolism it's not approved for use. Yet 863 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: this just came out just, Yesterday but every week we're 864 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: finding these amazing ways to turn our youth back. On 865 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: it is, happening and it is happening faster and faster and. 866 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: Faster the only thing that'll stop it is a comet 867 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: hitting the planet or really bad government. 868 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: Policy or really bad government. 869 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 2: POLICY i, mean you say that you don't need to 870 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 2: have a ton of money to invest to do some 871 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 2: good for your body to live. 872 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 3: LONGER i know that you have had the opportunity to spend. 873 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,959 Speaker 2: Some, money give a million bucks sure to to better. 874 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,439 Speaker 2: Yourself so for those that you know don't have those, 875 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 2: means if you had to offer them one or two, 876 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 2: suggestions what do you offer? 877 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: Them the number one thing that you can do is 878 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: show your body that occasionally there will be strong demands 879 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: on it and it's going to have to turn on 880 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: a lot of energy really, quickly because when it knows 881 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: that you live in a world like, that any parts 882 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: of your, cells your mitochondria that are, weak it'll just 883 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: get rid of them and build young new. Ones you 884 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: can do a cold shower in the morning for one whole, 885 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: minute you have cold water hitting you in the. Forehead 886 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: you'll hate me for saying that for three. Days but 887 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: after three, days all of a, sudden you're, like you know, 888 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: what that was not. UNPLEASANT i actually feel really good 889 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: because in three days, time according to the, studies you 890 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: change the structure of your energy generation parts of your, 891 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 1: cells and then they work. Better and that's what builds, 892 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: resilient that's what builds immune, function that's what builds a 893 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: person who is stronger and has more of that accelerator 894 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: to push to the. Floor so another thing you could, 895 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: do and these are all, free as you can focus 896 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: on your. Sleep this isn't quite, free but it's almost. 897 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: Free Black out your. Curtains there's a study that showed 898 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: the amount of light that comes around curtains in the 899 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 1: normal city environment increases depression by about sixty nine. Percent 900 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: sleep in a, cave you put a limit of foil 901 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: on your. Windows if you don't have, blackouts unplug your 902 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: LEDs like this is not, hard but those little things like, 903 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: that those will help you live. Longer and Maybe i'm, 904 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: Wrong you'll just not have a bunch of degenative conditions 905 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: for the last twenty years of your. Life like you 906 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: win either, way Except i'm not. 907 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 3: Wrong Except i'm not. Wrong. 908 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 2: Okay so then as we start to wind down, here 909 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: someone comes to Your instagram page and they see a 910 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 2: man who has certainly done his fair share of. Research 911 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 2: he has, Biohacked he's well on his way to at 912 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: least one hundred and. Eighty when you look in the, 913 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: mirror what is it that you see looking back at? 914 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: You just another. PERSON i don't Think i'm particularly. SPECIAL 915 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: i look kind of, like, hmm DO i have dark 916 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: circles under my? Eyes if, SO i wonder WHAT i 917 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: did to cause, that BECAUSE i have control over those. 918 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 2: Things right, now you have an opportunity to offer a 919 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 2: piece of advice to The dave who is in his 920 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 2: mid to late, twenties really going through the thick of 921 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: it with this hurdle, moment feeling, stuck and at that bottom, 922 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 2: point you have an opportunity to offer him a piece of. 923 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 3: Advice looking back on, it, now what do you tell? 924 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: Him the thing THAT i WISH i could have told 925 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: myself much earlier in my career was just that people 926 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: want to. Help all you have to do is ask 927 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: the right people for help and be willing to accept. 928 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: IT i was. STUBBORN i would not accept help in 929 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: my twenties BECAUSE i was going to show EVERYONE i 930 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: could do it all by. Myself AND i look back 931 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,720 Speaker 1: at What Mark hendrieson has, done very famous, investor Well 932 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: mark created the first web. BROWSER i wrote one of 933 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: the first reviews in a magazine of the web, browser 934 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 1: AND i had done e commerce at the same. Time 935 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: mark went To Silicon, valley raised hundreds of millions of 936 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: dollars and became a. Billionaire what DID i? DO i 937 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: got tired of putting t shirts in boxes in my dorm, 938 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 1: room AND i shut the company. Down i'm not. Complaining 939 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: i'm doing fine. Now but he was willing to go 940 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: To Silicon valley and ask for help from someone who'd 941 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: done it, before AND i was too stubborn to do. 942 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: That and IF i had just known people want to 943 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: help and they want help because it feels good to, 944 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: help it would have been so much easier for. Me 945 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: and Now i'm surrounded by people want to, help And 946 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: i'm so. FORTUNATE i just wish i'd known that. 947 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 2: EARLIER i could literally talk to you for. HOURS i 948 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 2: wish that we had more time here, Today. Dave how 949 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 2: do the hurdlers keep up with? You how do they find? 950 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 2: You give me all the, Details. 951 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: Emily the best place to go right now is Fastthis 952 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: way dot. Com and when you go, there pick up 953 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: my brand new, book AND i will spend two weeks 954 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: teaching you the. Book because it's one thing to read a, 955 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: book it's another thing to have the author teach it to. 956 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: You And i'll do that for, free BECAUSE i just 957 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: want people to figure out how to skip breakfast out 958 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: Of fast without breaking themselves and without feeling. Hungry and 959 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: of Course i'm really active On. Instagram I'm dave Dot 960 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: asprey And Bulletproof. Radio a couple hundred million, downloads that's 961 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: pretty well. 962 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 3: Known just a couple hundred. 963 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 2: Million i'm well on my way, There. Dave i'm aspiring 964 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 2: it to. Me just thank, you thank you so, Much 965 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 2: thank you so. MUCH i am At Emily body and 966 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 2: At Hurdle. Podcast another hurdle. Conquered catch you guys next. 967 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 2: Time