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Speaker 1: happy Thursday morning. The latest news around the league. This

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Speaker 1: is from NFL Networks, Tom Pella Sero, the NFL and

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Speaker 1: NFL p A discussing the possibility of shortening the preseason.

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Speaker 1: First sources might be happy about it. Nothing finalized or imminent,

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Speaker 1: but multiple team exists believe teams could end up playing

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Speaker 1: only two preseason games rather than four. Shortening the preseason

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Speaker 1: would allow for a longer ramp up period, regardless of

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Speaker 1: whether or not players report earlier than scheduled. Andrew Gribble,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the reports from Mr Pellis Sera late

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Well, you know, I think that they obviously

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Speaker 1: probably have a lot of stuff to work out with this,

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Speaker 1: because this this may sound like a simple endeavor, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is. I think that first off,

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Speaker 1: you've got schedules like the Browns who are currently supposed

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Speaker 1: to do two on the road and then two at home.

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Speaker 1: So does that mean the Browns then just get to

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Speaker 1: And then I guess you've got to start talking about

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Speaker 1: the financial viability of this. I mean, these are these

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Speaker 1: a lot of workarounds with that. All that said, if

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Speaker 1: if the medical experts come in and say this is

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Speaker 1: look we're trending towards a reduction in the preseason. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: people missed the preseason games to the team's missed the

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Speaker 1: preseason games? How does that look? The thing about it is,

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Speaker 1: as of now, not only are they big events, they're

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Speaker 1: Preseason TV contracts are a huge part of what you

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Speaker 1: I think would have to be worked through. I'm not

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski addressed the media on Wednesday, Grippling Your big

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Speaker 1: I think Andrew Berry has done the same things as well,

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Speaker 1: And there's no doubt what you said is right on

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Speaker 1: the money, Andrew, and that is that this is a

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Speaker 1: corner number five, corner number six even, and I wonder

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Speaker 1: about that depth of that room, and we'll see how

429
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Speaker 1: far some of those guys have come along in their development.

430
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Speaker 1: Hopefully we don't have to see too much, but at

431
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Speaker 1: some point it'll be nice to know that you've got

432
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Speaker 1: those just in case. Gribbs, who do you have at

433
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Speaker 1: number six. It's a tough one, I think, and I'm

434
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Speaker 1: gonna go with the defensive line. I think that's where

435
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Speaker 1: I'm going. Wow, I don't because I just like the

436
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Speaker 1: offense to much. I mean, let me take this back,

437
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: because I thought we were we were we were each

438
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: getting our spots there. This will be your six, this

439
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: will be your six. Okay, so my my six would

440
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: have been the tight ends. I thought we'd locked that in. Okay, alright, fine,

441
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: so we're an agreement there. So then my fifth would

442
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 1: be the defensive one. Okay, Scott, I think that they're

443
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: this You're great on paper with starters, and you've you've

444
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 1: fortified the depth there. I just need to see it

445
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: all come together for a full season. I want to

446
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: see the the I'm too, I'm too scarred after what

447
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: I saw at the end of last year. I think

448
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: we we all we're all gonna get flashbacks of of

449
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: what happened when that group was decimated. So I think

450
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: this is a big year for them, and I think

451
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: that the key addition to me is Adrian Cleybourne. You

452
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 1: need that third pass rusher, so to see him. If

453
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Speaker 1: he can step in and provide the production he has

454
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Speaker 1: had the last few years, then I think you're good.

455
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Speaker 1: But this is more of a reflection of just how

456
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Speaker 1: good I feel about the offense right now. All right,

457
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: So I might get this might be unpopular. I might

458
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: chock the world a little bit here. So we were

459
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: the same in our first just different order. But the

460
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: groups that we had nine, eight, seven and six, we

461
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: stayed on the defensive linebackers, safeties, corners, tight ends, offense. Honestly,

462
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the quarterback position here. I think if

463
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Speaker 1: you were to look around the league and say you

464
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Speaker 1: could take rooms out of our team, where would our

465
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Speaker 1: room rank in the National Football League? I think our

466
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Speaker 1: d room, d line room is gonna rank pretty well. Actually,

467
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Speaker 1: I think our quarterback room, based off of what happened

468
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Speaker 1: last year with Baker Mayfield, is not. And I think

469
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Speaker 1: that you look at it and you say to yourself, Okay,

470
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Speaker 1: we've got Miles Garrett is considered a transcendent talent. Sheldon

471
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: Richardson's a Pro Bowl performer. And I'll talk about the

472
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Speaker 1: D line more when I talk about them. But in

473
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Speaker 1: the quarterback room, you've got I love our quarterback room.

474
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Speaker 1: I believe in Baker. I think it's gonna have a

475
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Speaker 1: big bounce back year. But we don't have a Pro bowler,

476
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: we don't have an All Pro in that room. And

477
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: case Keenom a very good player who who took that

478
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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings team NFC championship. Is our quarterback room better

479
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: it was year ago? Significantly? I think significantly. So I

480
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: think it's an excellent room. But from a top lines

481
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: and tell Baker proves that this year, which I believe

482
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Speaker 1: that he will. I think if you were to compare

483
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: our rooms around the league, our quarterback room is going

484
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: to be trailing our D line, our O line, our

485
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: wide receivers and are running backs pretty substantially, and how

486
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Speaker 1: they're regarded the rest against the other thirty two teams. Noah, okay,

487
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: I'll wait till we get to that position. Until it

488
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: comes up. That was number five, Now it's number four, Gribble.

489
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Speaker 1: We'll start with you at number four. Well, I would

490
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Speaker 1: have had qbs at this point, So we where are

491
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Speaker 1: we locking those in because I think the the other

492
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Speaker 1: three for me are are pretty set above the QB

493
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Speaker 1: And I'll let go what what what Nathan just said?

494
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Speaker 1: I was just uh, I think I was too afraid

495
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Speaker 1: to put the qbs that low because I feel good,

496
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: I feel I forget. I'm just forgetting the two tho

497
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: for for what we saw from Baker, and I have

498
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: that much trust in an offense that is really going

499
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Speaker 1: to be built to bring the most out of him

500
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: and not put too much on his plate, which I

501
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: think just last year there was just too much put

502
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: on his plate. And I think that it was your

503
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: typical second season progression that we used to see in

504
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: the past a lot of quarterbacks. And I think he's

505
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: poised to have a big year bouncing back. So I

506
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Speaker 1: think I will say there's a big separation between the

507
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the rest of my list, because I think

508
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Speaker 1: those those three are are much higher uh than the

509
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in my rankings right now. And listen, I love

510
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: our tight endroom and I think our tight endroom's a

511
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: top ten tight endroom in the NFL for sure, for sure.

512
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Speaker 1: But this is what I'm talking We have a lot

513
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Speaker 1: of talent on paper toy. We gotta go out and

514
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: we've got to win games. I mean, other than the

515
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Speaker 1: linebacking room, which is unproven, although it has talent in

516
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: it and pedigree, it's unproven. Everywhere else, you've got guys

517
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: who are proving him. We just are safeties and all

518
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: of this, it's all there. That's why we've got to

519
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: be good. I'll go with this is tough for me.

520
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: I considered wide receiver here because we're so top heavy

521
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: at that position, and if you were to look at

522
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: the whole body of it, I do think the defensive

523
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: line as a unit is better. But I'll put the

524
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: d line here. Myles Garrett obviously coming back from what

525
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: happened last year, but I was on his having a

526
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Speaker 1: sack a game, one of the best pass rushers in

527
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Vernon was great when he played last year

528
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: as well. Now you bring in Clayborne, Chad Thomas, all

529
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden is your fourth defensive end. Then you

530
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Speaker 1: go to the interior of that line. Sheldon Richardson, who

531
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: I think is criminally underrated, an excellent player, Larry Ogan, Joby,

532
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: you bring in Billings and I'll tell you when you

533
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: watch Jordan Elliott on tape. You get excited about that

534
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: guy is a sub package pass rusher at least early

535
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: in his career, his movement skills, his ability. So you

536
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: have a strong eight in that defensive line room that

537
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: you feel pretty good about. Of course, Chad Thomas is

538
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 1: probably gonna be pushed. This isn't the regime that drafted him.

539
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: And when you're you know, the top pick in the

540
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: third round, you're expected, or one of the top picks

541
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: in the third round, you expected to have a bigger

542
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: impact than he's had through his first two seasons. But

543
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: top line and the fact that potentially, you know, maybe

544
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: Clowney could come into that room later on, it's a

545
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: pretty good it's a pretty good rum and I like it.

546
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: I like all the rooms that we have. I mean,

547
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: that's why we should be good. That's why there there

548
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: should be some expectations, even though last year has kind

549
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: of put us under the radar, which is a great

550
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 1: place to be grippled. Number three, Number three, I'm going

551
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: with wide receivers for the team right now. And I

552
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: think that top top, your top two are great, but

553
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: you need more than two. And I think that there's

554
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks beyond Odell and Jarvis, and

555
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 1: not to mention that both of them are coming off

556
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: pretty significant surgeries this offseason, so that those players are

557
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: gonna need to step up whenever these guys get on

558
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: the field. I like the re signing of for Shard Higgins.

559
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: He's falls into the Baker category. With me, I'm just

560
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: gonna forget about last year and and pretend that he's

561
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: coming up coming off the two thousand and eighteen season.

562
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: I think Damian Ratley is has done well in spots,

563
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: and I think that the Browns are hoping to get

564
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: more out of Tawan Taylor. Just didn't really see much

565
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: of him in those first outside of those first couple

566
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 1: of games last year. Tough adjustment for him to come

567
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: in at the end of the preseason and make that switch.

568
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: But there's some there's a legitimate competition going on there

569
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: for those third, fourth, and fifth spots. That's why I've

570
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: got them as as my number three. Yeah, I agree

571
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: with that. The good news is we're running predominantly a

572
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: two wide receiver offense, and our top two are as

573
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: good as you know, any tantem in the NFL. You know,

574
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: there's certainly an upper echelon. Maybe some of Mike Evans

575
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: and Chris Godwin's a pretty good one as well. But

576
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: there are good tandems out there, but the Browns tandem

577
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: is is elite. That is an elite tosome. I love

578
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: bringing Hollywood Higgins back. Taywan Taylor looked. This offense when

579
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: it's been run well historically, has always had somebody who

580
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: could take the top off of the defense. And that's

581
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: what Taylan Taylor was drafted to do in Tennessee. You

582
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: saw him run around last year. He clearly can do that.

583
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: Will he be able to do that on a more

584
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: consistent basis Not sure. Ratley, as you mentioned Cadarrel Hodge,

585
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: He's one of our core special teams guys. And then

586
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: you draft the ultimate wild card, Donovan People's Jones, number

587
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: one receiver recruit in the country. He's got the size,

588
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: he's got the speed, he's got the jumping. But he's done.

589
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 1: He's got it all. Was he held back at Michigan.

590
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: We'll find out, but I think you talked about a

591
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: ball of clay to mold. He's got it all. Chat

592
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: o'shay to work with him, getting to work with Jarvis,

593
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: he could be special. I'll throw one out there. If

594
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: we had Taylor Gabriel, who's a free agent, who's played

595
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: in this offense, who's played for the Browns, if you

596
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: brought him in, I would all of a sudden bump

597
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: our wide receiver group way up because he is what

598
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: this offense when it's been very successful historically. And I'm

599
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: gonna go for the Kyle Shanahan years in the modern

600
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: era with the Browns, then with the Falcons, where Gabriel

601
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: went down there and had seven hundred yards you look

602
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: at you know, even with the Niners, he had the

603
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: guys that could stretch that one guy who could stretch

604
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: the field lesser Gebo Samuel did it that a lot

605
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: for them. That's the one thing that you want to see.

606
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: Marky's Goodwin has had some big years for him, that

607
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: one guy that can really be explosive. And I'll give

608
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: Taywan Taylor the shot at it. But I've seen Taylor Gabriel,

609
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: I've seen perform at a high level. That's the one

610
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: thing that's missing. It's missing that full compliment where you're like,

611
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: all right, we have a lot of different stuff going

612
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: on in here that we could do, but it's again

613
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: a two receiver offense predominantly, and if those two were healthy,

614
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: you feel really really good about it. The girl number

615
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: two for you, number two, I'm gonna go with the

616
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: offensive line. Uh. And you who would have thought we'd

617
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: say that last year that would have been eight or

618
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: nine most likely around there, not going into the year,

619
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: but at the end of the year, that's certainly where

620
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: the ranking would have been. Uh. And so what do

621
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: you do? You go out and you bring in Jack

622
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: Conklind has been a first team All Pro. You draft

623
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: Jedderick Wills with the tenth overall pick. And now you

624
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: look at your line and you say, from left to right,

625
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: Jeddrick Wills at left tackle, but Tonio multiple time Pro bowler.

626
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: J C. Treader should be a multiple time Pro bowler

627
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: your right guard. Internally, Bill Callahan, he really feels good

628
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: about Wyatt Teller and apparent they have a relationship going

629
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: back to his pre draft process that we found out

630
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: when we when we got a chance to talk to him.

631
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: And then at right tackles, I mentioned Conklind, your backup tackles.

632
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: Now your backup tackles. Chris Hubbard, who started twenty nine

633
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: games for the Browns last two years, forty three starts

634
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: in his career. He's a guy that can play all

635
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: five positions. In fact, has at various points in his career.

636
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 1: Kendall Lamb started thirteen games two years ago for the Texans,

637
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: made a couple starts for the Browns last year. On

638
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: the interior, you got Drew Forbes in the mix. There

639
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: are a lot of guys that they like to get

640
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: Nick Harris in the draft, who I think is gonna

641
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: be a great fit. You just have some pretty good

642
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: depth and there are other guys we could go in.

643
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: That's where you have the most step on the roster

644
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: right now. But you feel pretty good about that room,

645
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: the starters, and knowing that if if some things were

646
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: to happen, you have some some competent professional contingency plans.

647
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Supper got a big deal because of

648
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: what he did. Is the jack of all trades, sixth

649
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: lineman for the Steelers. Yeah, I agree, that's that was

650
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: gonna be my number two. And I just think that

651
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: you brought up two thousand fourteen when you talked about

652
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: Taylor Gabriel. I'm gonna bring up two thousand four team

653
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: when you talk about the offensive line, because I think

654
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: that that's the closest similarity you have, just with different

655
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: strengths and different spots. Obviously, you had a Hall of

656
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: Famer at left tackle. Now you've got a rookie. But

657
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: when you feel really good at you've got really good

658
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe beltonio one of the best in the

659
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: league at his position, jacket now that he was right

660
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: tackle at that position. So I just feel so much

661
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: better about that group. And I just I can't foresee

662
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: a scenario where you have two straight years where you

663
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: can't find the right guard. I just think that you're

664
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: gonna find one and and find one that can can

665
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: play really good for you at that spot. So I

666
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: feel I feel fine that you're gonna be able to

667
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: to lock that up. And I just think the majority

668
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: of teams around the league do not feel this good

669
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: about four or five offensive linement right now. I think

670
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: that's the that's the key with ranking these position groups

671
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: is that the Browns are in an enviable spot where

672
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: they've got four spots pretty much locked up on their

673
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: offensive line and the one opening being at right guard.

674
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm good with that now. See I am surprised that

675
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: both of you have the offensive line as high as

676
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: you do based on the fact that we don't know

677
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: what left tackle will look like and right guard is

678
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: still a question mark going into camp, although you have

679
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: plenty of quality candidates for that position. I mean, I

680
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: think three out of the five you know for sure.

681
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: Tour four well, I mean, we know Wills is going

682
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: to start. I mean I'm saying that there's a bold prediction,

683
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: but um, I mean I think we know that that's

684
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: going to be the case, but we don't know what

685
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: he is yet. The guy gave up one sack in

686
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: thirty nine games in the SEC. I think it would

687
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: be good. Listen. I just think the defensive line wast

688
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: the hof on the defensive line is better than the

689
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: offensive line right now. I love our D line we

690
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: have you need If if Vernon was coming off of

691
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: sixteen games in ten sacks, I feel a lot better

692
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: about it on the D line. And I think Larry

693
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: didn't have the year he wanted to have last year.

694
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: You have more depth. I mean, like I said, I

695
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: think you're solid eight there our line, though, when you

696
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: think about what it could be in the league with

697
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: a trader as an upper echelon center, but Tonya is

698
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: one of the best guards the league, Conklinence one of

699
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: the best tackles. So three out of your five are

700
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: guarantee our our elite at their positions. Wills everybody's excited

701
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: about and those who know this game a lot better

702
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: than I do in those positions are incredibly excited about him.

703
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: Four out of five is good. You go back to

704
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, our line was Joe Thomas, rookie, Joel

705
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: Mattonio who played very well, obviously, Alex mac our boy,

706
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: John Greco, and then on the right side he had

707
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: Mitchell Schwartz. That line was very instrumental and what that

708
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: team was able to accomplish on offense with what you

709
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: would call sub standard skill position players relative to the league,

710
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: certainly below average. Now we have elite skill position players

711
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: relative to the league, and I think we have were

712
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: you have the chance to have a real elite offensive line.

713
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: Gribbs uh at number one obviously everybody. I mean, you've

714
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: got one of the best Ryan backs in the league,

715
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: if not the best, in Nick Chubb, and then you

716
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: also have Kareem Hunt, who is one of the best

717
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: Ryan backs in the league as well, and I'm going

718
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: by Matt. I mean, at most you're gonna have two

719
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: of those guys in the field, So that's that's pretty good.

720
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: And to have those two and also like not many

721
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: teams have the odds stability at running back that the

722
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: Browns have last year and you basically bring them back

723
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: the same room as last year that there's with Ernest

724
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: Johnson and donre Hulier and you're adding some undrafted free

725
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: agents in Brian Harry and Benny Lamy. I mean, this

726
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: is a stable group. It's the one position you're bringing

727
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: back your position, go Chat. I mean, I I just

728
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: feel very good about this group. And this is when

729
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: this should be the year for all for both Chubb

730
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: and Kareem Hunt. If this is a career year, this

731
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be a career, it's gonna be this one.

732
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: You've got Chubb in his third season, Hunt in his

733
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: fourth season. I mean, the this is prime years for

734
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: the running backs. I mean, this is this is the

735
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: apex for this group, and I think that I think

736
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: it'll it'll play out that way. I mean when we

737
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: historically speaking, I don't know you've ever had a tandem

738
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: of running backs this talented in their primes at the

739
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: same time, and the Saints recently with Mark and German

740
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: Camaro were certainly a dynamic duo. There you go back

741
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: to Marcus Allen bow Jackson I brought up on Brown's

742
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: daily the Chargers when Ladany and and they had Michael

743
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: the Berner turner, but they never gave turn to the ball.

744
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: He just average six yards of care and then went

745
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: on to run for seventeen hundred yards the first year

746
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: to be a feature back, but Kareema led the league

747
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: in rushing in two thousand and seventeen. Cremon had fourteen

748
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: touchdowns about fourteen under total yards in eleven games in

749
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen. Before all of this happened, he

750
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: was elite, as elite as it gets. And now here

751
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: he is with Nick job who might be the best

752
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: pure runner of the football in the NFL. And here

753
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: we asked. We talked to Cremon on CBD yesterday. He's

754
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: got a big chip on his shoulder. Nobody said people

755
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: aren't he noticed it. We've noticed it, but he noticed

756
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: it as well. People aren't saying my name, but they're gonna.

757
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: They're gonna remember his name, and he's gonna make sure

758
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: of that. And I think the biggest one of the

759
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: biggest challenges in an off season of a lot of

760
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: challenges if we're going to move to things that are

761
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: certainly less important, is how do you divide that playing time?

762
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: How do you distribute those touches? How do you keep

763
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: both of these guys happy? Do you worry about keeping

764
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: both of these guys happy? How do you utilize them?

765
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: Because they are weapons? But typically there's well, in fact always,

766
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: there's only one person who can carry the ball on

767
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: a given play, and there are only so many snaps,

768
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: there are only so many carries. Uh, you know, could

769
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: we see a situation she had three hundred last year?

770
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: And this is the point I brought up on CBD.

771
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what you think about it. Listen

772
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: to the point is we're just the theoretical discussion. If

773
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: this organization, I think you have to take stepping you

774
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: realize long term, the idea of having Kareem Hunter Nick

775
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: Chubb in your back field together is is untenable. Right,

776
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. So if that's the case,

777
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: if you're saying I want to commit to Nick Chubb

778
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: long term, do you do more of an even split.

779
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: Do even feature Kareem Hunt a little more so that

780
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb doesn't have a three thirty five touch season

781
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: again this year. I mean I wouldn't feature him as

782
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't feature Hunt more. I would. I would just

783
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: make it as balanced as possible because I I I

784
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: think Hunt was underutilized as a runner lash Oh my god,

785
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: And I thought, and I thought when he got the

786
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: ball as a runner, he would he he had that

787
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: extra juice in him and he always fell forward. I

788
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: liked getting him the ball, especially on the goal line.

789
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: I liked I liked Kareem Hunt in those situations. So

790
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: I would just go for more of a balance. You

791
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: know that both guys are not gonna not gonna be

792
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: problems when it comes to this. I think they're both

793
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: clearly team guys, and I just think you you need

794
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: to split it as much as you possibly can, because

795
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: I don't I think that that will be the best

796
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: for your success this year. I think you. I think

797
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna expect Kareem to be in a little bit

798
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: different a role than he was last year, because I

799
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: think that was a little bit thrown together just it

800
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: was a tough situation. With him coming through midway. So

801
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: I just, I just I would balance it as much

802
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: as possible, maybe a slight edge to Nick Chubb. But

803
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean, these are two really good ryan backs and

804
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: at the same time, though it's certainly really hard to

805
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: tell myself just mentally, and I think the world of

806
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Koree mon I saw him that game that he had

807
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: his last game in Cleveland as a member of the Chiefs.

808
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: He was NFC Offensive Player of the Week. I mean,

809
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: he put up over twitter total yards I think at

810
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, just diced us passed her as a runner,

811
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: as a receiver in every way possible. But it's so

812
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: hard to say, I don't want to just give Nick

813
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: Chubb the ball twenty times because I know what that

814
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: looks like and it's good. Probably you just don't want

815
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: to become I'm the only fear I have is you

816
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: don't want to do what the Broncos did last year.

817
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: They had something really good going with Philip Lindsay being

818
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: the main guy the year before, and then they tried

819
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: to work in Royce Freeman. And granted this is like

820
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: apples and oranges comparison between Chubb and Hunting and Royce

821
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Freeman and phil Lindsay. But I thought it just messed

822
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: things up a little bit there. They never really could

823
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: get into a rhythm. And then when we when we

824
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: go play them last year and Philip Lindsay's breaking off

825
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: these huge runs, was like, why is this guy not

826
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: getting the ball every time he gets? You know, and

827
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: so you've got to make it so you are balancing

828
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: it out but not ruining the flow for either for

829
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: both guys. And I think that's that's the balance they

830
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: have to strike offense. So for me, when I think

831
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: of what that could look like in a pretty productive way,

832
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think you kind of think of the

833
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: Saints and mark Ingram and and you know, Kamara was

834
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: the main guy, even though he's more the hunt than

835
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: the chub, but figuring out a balance that year they

836
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: had Kamara had two hundred and seventy touches, She's fifteen

837
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: hundred total yards, eighteen touchdowns, Ingram twelve game in only

838
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: twelve games, still had a hundred and fifty touches, uh

839
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: and scored seven times and put up you know, eight

840
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: hundred total yards. Maybe a little bit more of a

841
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: balance than that, but that's kind of isn't that kind

842
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: of where you're at maybe, or or more like even

843
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, Ingram two hirty carries, eleven hundred yards,

844
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns plus four hundred receiving. Kamara had fifteen hundred

845
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: total yards and two hundred touches himself. That's the year

846
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. That's what you're looking for. Two plus

847
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: touches for for job and around two hundred for hunt.

848
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Sign me up for that. Give me the two thousand

849
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: seventeen Saints backfield with us, because I think our guys

850
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: are more talented, and let's see what happens, all right,

851
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: no pressure, coach, that's a tough thing to do. I

852
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: think the Saints didn't have a fullback that year, am

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Speaker 1: I correct? They had Zac Line was the full not

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Speaker 1: heavily involved. So that that's what I wonder. How that

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Speaker 1: affects the snaps and touches. They all said two games

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Speaker 1: of John Coon? Remember John Coon? Folks? Nice? All right?

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Speaker 1: So those are the those are your position rankings. It's

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Speaker 1: a good it's good, I mean really really good. They

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Speaker 1: have to show it. Yeah. I will also say with

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Speaker 1: my rankings, I factored in injuries because I think that's

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Speaker 1: why I had maybe the D line a little bit

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Speaker 1: lower than you guys did because I think one injury

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Speaker 1: on that lot and that group could affect them a

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Speaker 1: lot more than some of these other groups at the

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Speaker 1: great injuries. I just think that that that group, to

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Speaker 1: me is is I think any position. But we just

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Speaker 1: saw it last year and it just is. That's the

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Speaker 1: same reason I think. I think that's the same reason again, Warner,

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Speaker 1: I think, again quarterbacks ranked as low as we do,

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Speaker 1: that's a talented room. But if we need five or six, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not really sure. I love our top four, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I like our top four in that room, and I

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Speaker 1: think the guys you have behind them are are filling

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Speaker 1: out what you need. Somebody you need somebody else who

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Speaker 1: can emerge. I think really more than anything, you need

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Speaker 1: somebody who can emerge as your backup nickel because money, Mitch,

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Speaker 1: I think, is your backup outside corner. You need somebody

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Speaker 1: who can emerge that backup nickel. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: that might come from your safety room. I mean they

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Speaker 1: that's Sendejo did that in the playoffs last year and

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Speaker 1: did it pretty well. They actually are pretty high what

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Speaker 1: s Dajo can do from a versatile skill set standpoint.

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Speaker 1: But that's what where Donnie Lewis, who was drafted last year,

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Speaker 1: who was purely an inside corner. You need somebody like

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Speaker 1: that to step up and really show what they can do.

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Speaker 1: A J. Green. A J. Green would be a great candidate.

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Speaker 1: And that's you know, listen, the most prize undrafted free agent.

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Speaker 1: And I know that that's a weird thing to be,

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Speaker 1: but he is and a guy who played very well

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Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State when we talked to him, A boulder

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Speaker 1: on his shoulder, a mountain on his shoulder, and ready

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Speaker 1: to prove what he could do. He would be perfect.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna get every chance to compete

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Speaker 1: every jil No Chris turn on Wednesday, also guys, just

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