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Speaker 1: and that's just week one. Clay Travis here. I'm going

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Speaker 1: on tour for my new book, American Playbook, and I

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Speaker 1: in Utah, Texas, Florida, Wisconsin, and of course my home

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Speaker 1: state at Tennessee. So if I'm in your hood, come

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Speaker 1: say hello. Pick up a copy of the most important

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Speaker 1: book you'll read this year, American Playbook, our game Plan

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Speaker 1: for the Future.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 3: We are rolling.

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Speaker 1: I'm up here in New York City because I'm doing

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Speaker 1: a book signing tonight. Bookends in Ridgewood, New Jersey. I

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Speaker 1: be taking photos signing books. Buck Confession, can you throw

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Speaker 4: I thought you were doing a book signing on Friday

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Speaker 1: I saw what happened I hope that the people at

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Speaker 1: Bookends will behave themselves better than what happened in New

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Speaker 1: the deal. I'm gonna be shameless. Sometimes you got to

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Speaker 1: be shameless. I want this book. Buck's going to have

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Speaker 1: to Amazon right now. I want to see what this

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Speaker 1: So the book, I'll be signing it tonight. It officially

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Speaker 1: it on Amazon, and by the way, you can buy

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Speaker 1: it at Barnes Andnoble dot com everywhere. Right now, Buck,

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Speaker 1: The book, my book, American Playbook is at fifteen thousand,

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Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty two on the bestseller Okay. That

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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie. Some of these I look

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Speaker 1: And for everybody out there who says, okay, like why

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Speaker 1: every day. You get to be on Fox News. That's true,

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Speaker 1: and that's all great, and you run out kick and

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Speaker 1: And I was talking with our producer Ali up here

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Speaker 1: A lot of you have kids and grandkids, and you're

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Speaker 4: We have Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio with US. Congressman.

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Speaker 4: Great to have you back on the program sir, Good to.

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Speaker 4: Smoking gun documents prove Facebook censored Americans on behalf of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they asked, hey, can you hey, guys, can you

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Speaker 6: Totally, I mean, shazam, exactly what we thought was happening,

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Speaker 6: Well, two things. One, highlighting how wrong it was what

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Speaker 1: They then allowed fifty one intelligence agents to come out

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Speaker 6: So now that there's been lightshet on this, now that

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Speaker 6: to be, that they initially were designed to be, and

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Speaker 6: not this.

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Speaker 7: And plus we're also looking at.

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Speaker 6: These these agencies and these entities that rate you know,

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Speaker 6: what level of misinform quote is on these platforms, because

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Speaker 6: that's how they really come after your advertising revenue and

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Speaker 6: impact business, as Clay was talking about as they testified

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Speaker 6: to a couple of years ago. That's a big concern.

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Speaker 6: So we're looking in that avenue as well to try

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Speaker 6: to make sure this stuff ends and we protect the

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Speaker 6: First Amendment.

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Speaker 1: Jim, the number one question I get, and I bet

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Speaker 1: Buck gets it too. You're one hundred percent right on

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Speaker 1: all this. Not only do I know your right based

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Speaker 1: on what you're putting out there, but I know, based

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Speaker 1: on having seen behind the curtain running a media company,

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Speaker 1: what this impact is as I testified to you to

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Speaker 1: the committee back in the day. So here's the question.

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Speaker 1: Everybody in our audience understands the truth that you're telling.

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Speaker 1: Buckett myself certainly understand it. How do you reach the

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Speaker 1: people that think they're getting the truth from CNN, MSNBC,

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Speaker 1: the New York Times, the Washington Post when they won't

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Speaker 1: even cover the story that you're putting out there that

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Speaker 1: I think is the most compelling. I think it's be

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Speaker 1: the number one story in America because, as I've said

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Speaker 1: for some time, the rig job in twenty twenty and

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Speaker 1: the Biden crime family in general makes Watergate look like Jaywalking.

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Speaker 1: But half the country still thinks the Hunter Biden laptop

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Speaker 1: was Russian disinformation? How do we get the truth out?

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Speaker 6: No, we keep.

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Speaker 7: Talking about it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, and you guys are doing you know, three

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Speaker 6: hours every day. That makes a world of difference. You

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Speaker 6: keep talking about it, and I do think at some

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Speaker 6: point people start to wake up because understand, and I've

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Speaker 6: said this on the House floor, I said, look they

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Speaker 6: I was talking to the Democrats. Don't think they won't

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Speaker 6: come after you. The mob is never satisfied. The people

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Speaker 6: who quach on free speech are never satisfied. As an example,

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Speaker 6: we had Robert F. Kennedy Junior come testify a few

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Speaker 6: weeks ago Democrats a hearing on censorship. Democrats tried to

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Speaker 6: kick him out of the hearing. Yeah, it was amazing

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Speaker 6: to me that they tried to do it. But he

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Speaker 6: made a great statement. He says, when you look back

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Speaker 6: at history, the people who were pro censorship, they were

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Speaker 6: never the good guy. And that's what I think. The

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Speaker 6: more we talk about, the more we see the fact

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Speaker 6: that you've got a guy in the Democrat primary getting

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Speaker 6: twenty percent who's talking about the same things that Clay

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Speaker 6: and Buck and Jim Jordan are talking about, when did

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Speaker 6: we ever see that happen before? So I do think

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Speaker 6: we're beginning to break through. We just got to keep

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Speaker 6: it up and understand, this great country, the greatest country ever,

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Speaker 6: is worth it, but it's not the greatest country if

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Speaker 6: you don't have a first Amendment. It's the most important

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Speaker 6: thing going more important than the unequal application of the law,

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Speaker 6: is this first Amendment fight. Because you can't push back

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Speaker 6: against the unequal application of the law if you're not

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Speaker 6: allowed to speak and to speak in a political fashion,

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Speaker 6: to speak out against what's happening in the government and

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Speaker 6: what they did to President.

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Speaker 7: Trump last week.

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Speaker 6: This is at furtherance of this because they're attacking him

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Speaker 6: for they're criminalizing politics, and they're attacking him for First

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Speaker 6: Amendment protected speech. And I think more and more people

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Speaker 6: are waking up to it and seeing how wrong it is.

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Speaker 4: Congress from Jim Jordan, always appreciate you being here with us, sir,

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much.

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Speaker 6: You bet guys.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, you know, I just I wanted to. I just

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Speaker 3: I should have asked him.

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Speaker 4: It's a guy who had coached and wrestled at a

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Speaker 4: high level, the Elon Zuckerberg.

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Speaker 3: This crosses over to big tech. I need to get

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Speaker 3: him back on the line.

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Speaker 1: I actually would love to hear his theory on breaking

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Speaker 1: this down. We need to talk about it, you and

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Speaker 1: me because it's actually going to go. Go do this

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Speaker 1: looks like it might happen.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean this this is Elon is at

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Speaker 4: a point now we're backing off of this, and this

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Speaker 4: is where you get into you know, somebody who understands

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Speaker 4: what it is to wrestling is a form of grappling

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Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I don't know. I mean, Mark

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Speaker 4: with you.

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Speaker 1: I said this morning. I think I've said it on

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Speaker 1: Zuckerberg puts you to sleep, no matter what opinion you had, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think. I don't think I could

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Speaker 4: continue on like this. I'm just telling you it would

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Speaker 4: be a little little too much for me. But I

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Speaker 4: like your radical honesty today, Clay Well, you know, just

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Speaker 4: just just going for it with Zuckerberg. W would choke

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Speaker 4: me out.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and also being honest about showing up at

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Speaker 1: respond to the truths that are being told about the

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Speaker 1: guess what if you're moving one hundred miles an hour

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Speaker 1: this is more truth telling. I recently got my blood

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Speaker 3: See how I'm doing. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm good so far four still got really good testosterone levels.

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Speaker 1: Buck is taking a shot at me. I think he's

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I like to think I still have

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Speaker 1: it last week. I actually want to circle back around,

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Speaker 1: and I came on with you for fifteen or twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes on Wednesday because every time it seems like I

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Speaker 1: take a vacation, Trump actually gets indicted. We're now two

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Speaker 1: times I've missed twice for this summer. Both times Trump

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Speaker 1: has gotten indicted in federal court, both in South Florida

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Speaker 1: and now in Washington, d C. And there is now

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Speaker 1: a possible Trump indictment coming in Atlanta. I will be

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Speaker 1: there on Thursday. I was there much a last week.

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Speaker 1: They have shut down the streets around the Federal Court,

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Speaker 1: around the courthouse there as they get ready for the

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Speaker 1: state charges to be filed. But I want to talk

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Speaker 1: more about these Trump charges, in particular in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 3: With you for a moment.

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Speaker 1: I have looked at this, I've read this indictment, and

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Speaker 1: I think many people are missing what is the most

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Speaker 1: important defense that is out there for Trump as this Buck,

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Speaker 1: and I mentioned this with you on Wednesday. When you

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Speaker 1: boil down what Jack Smith is attempting to charge related

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Speaker 1: to these four conspiracies on January sixth, he's essentially criminalizing

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Speaker 1: the legal advice that Donald Trump got. And I hear

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Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about the First Amendment and

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Speaker 1: certainly there is a defense there. And I hear a

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Speaker 1: lot of people talk about the precedent that is being

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Speaker 1: set and how awful it is, and I agree with both.

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Speaker 3: Of those things.

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Speaker 1: But I hear very few people talking about what I

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Speaker 1: think is the best defense for Trump that could lead

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Speaker 1: to these charges being tossed. And it is this, And

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Speaker 1: I want to bring this home for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 1: I have set around conference room tables with room full

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Speaker 1: of lawyers before as all the lawyers debate, Hey, what's

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Speaker 1: the best defense here? How could we file a lawsuit

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Speaker 1: on this angle? What's the most compelling And I'll give

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Speaker 1: you a fun story. When I was a young attorney,

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Speaker 1: we were filing a lawsuit on behalf of a ambulatory

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Speaker 1: what services they were allowed to argue. And I remember

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Speaker 1: I looked into and read everything that I could about

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Speaker 1: this because they wanted me to draft the lawsuit that

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Speaker 1: was filed to allow this hospital, this ambulatory center, to

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Speaker 3: And I wrote what I thought was an.

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Speaker 1: Incredibly compelling lawsuit, and I took it to the managing

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Speaker 1: out my case and I laid it out.

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Speaker 3: I was twenty five.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're full of you think you're the most

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Speaker 1: brilliant lawyer who's ever existed. I made my whole case,

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Speaker 1: and I remember his response, and his response was, that's aggressive.

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Speaker 5: That is.

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Speaker 3: Interesting in theory. It's a huge loser.

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Speaker 1: And it's beyond the bounds of what we should be

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Speaker 1: arguing legally. Then we brought in other lawyers, and other

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Speaker 1: lawyers heard the theory and they were like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's actually kind of an interesting theory that might work.

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Speaker 1: And so when you file a lawsuit or when you

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Speaker 1: provide a defense, it's not uncommon for many lawyers to

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Speaker 1: have a variety of different perspectives on what might or

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Speaker 1: might not work. And the reason why I bring that

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Speaker 1: up is that's the essence of being a lawyer, because

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Speaker 1: all you do is analyze probabilities. And it's why very

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Speaker 1: often legal arguments are we believe X, but in the

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Speaker 1: event X isn't true, we believe why, And in the

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Speaker 1: event why isn't true, we believe Z. And Trump might

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Speaker 1: have had an aggressive interpretation of what the law allowed

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Speaker 1: Mike Pence to do on January.

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Speaker 3: Sixth, and what he was allowed.

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Speaker 1: To do in terms of putting forward a new slate

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Speaker 1: of electors, But I don't think that's criminal. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's really scary to argue that you can criminalize

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Speaker 1: a legal argument, because many legal arguments that seem crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you one. People would say, oh, the idea

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Speaker 1: that gay people are ever going to get married in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, You might have gotten laughed out of

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Speaker 1: a courtroom if you had tried to make that argument.

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Speaker 1: But by the time we got to whatever it was

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Speaker 1: and overfel becomes law, that was compelling. Every dissent is

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Speaker 1: a minority opinion in the Supreme Court, but it's often

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Speaker 1: setting forth the precedent that will allow a case to

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Speaker 1: be overturned. And so when I and then this is

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Speaker 1: a huge part of this argument too. Buck in December

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two, I believe it was they changed

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Speaker 1: the law on how what the vice president's role is

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Speaker 1: going to be on the January sixth equivalent. If you

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Speaker 1: are changing the law, how on its face is there

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Speaker 1: not a colorable legal argument that could be made that

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Speaker 1: what Mike Pence was doing and the new slate of

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Speaker 1: electors and sending it back to the States wasn't in

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Speaker 1: some way a legal ambiguity that some people could believe

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Speaker 1: was actually a legitimate legal argument. I think this is

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Speaker 1: an open and shut case. I don't understand how from

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Speaker 1: a legal perspective there are allowed to be charges brought

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Speaker 1: when the law was changed to keep Trump's legal argument

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Speaker 1: from being able to be advanced. To me, that's a

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Speaker 1: sign that there was ambiguity, and that everything Trump argued

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Speaker 1: and the lawyers who advised him argued is in fact

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Speaker 1: legally acceptable and there's no conspiracy at all, because all

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Speaker 1: he was doing was putting forward a legal argument. I

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Speaker 1: think all this just will end up coming down if

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Speaker 1: it is put to a jury to what people think

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Speaker 1: of Trumps in all of this, not just Trump period,

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Speaker 1: but Trump in the midst of all of this. The

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Speaker 1: legal realities of it almost feels like it's so politicized,

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Speaker 1: and it's so obviously it's so obvious that this has

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Speaker 1: been done to create massive influence going into the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four election that I'm not even sure.

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Speaker 3: I'll put you this way.

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Speaker 4: If I were sitting on well, I mean, I'm a

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Speaker 4: right wing lunatic five, But if I were sitting on

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Speaker 4: a jury in this instance and I knew what was

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Speaker 4: going on here with like, it's impossible to find someone

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Speaker 4: who doesn't already have a lot of opinions on all

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Speaker 4: of this. Right, this is this is not you know,

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Speaker 4: did you know did doctor Kimball murder his wife or

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Speaker 4: was it the one armed man? And no, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, Like, this is something that everybody is

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Speaker 4: at some level opinionated on and I just think that

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Speaker 4: it's very hard when you get into the legal realities

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Speaker 4: of it to separate these things out. And so yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're criminalizing. They're criminalizing this legal theory or the usage

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Speaker 4: of legal theories, which is really bad for our system

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Speaker 4: of clay. They're also prosecuting their chief political rival and

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Speaker 4: election year, right, Like, it's just all all the arguments

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Speaker 4: related to norms and process are overshadowed, if not crushed,

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Speaker 4: by the thuggish reality of what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's like we're sitting here and we're watching you ever

736
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Speaker 4: seen like indoor men's league soccer, like indoor soccer played.

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Speaker 3: It's like six on six or whatever it is, where the.

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Speaker 4: Team right now is running around like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think they're not really playing and they're just they're

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Speaker 4: knocking people's teeth out with elbows. They're given the ref

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Speaker 4: of five hundred dollars bill, you know, five hundred dollars

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Speaker 4: in bills.

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Speaker 3: Like it's just sort of so.

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Speaker 4: Far beyond in many ways the legal niceties of all like, well,

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Speaker 4: he has rights and there's a system, and yeah, the

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Speaker 4: process is playing out.

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Speaker 3: But I mean in DC, he's got the most.

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Speaker 4: Actually, Julie Kelly said he the second most anti Trump

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Speaker 4: judge possible, just to be fair, she said, there's one

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Speaker 4: who's worse, But this is the second most anti Trump

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Speaker 4: judge and the entire DC circuit, of all the judges

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Speaker 4: in the most anti Trump jurisdiction. I think Trump is

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Speaker 4: probably more hated in Washington, d C. Than he even

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Speaker 4: is in San Francisco, based on you know, because that's

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Speaker 4: the other city that's ninety five percent plus Democrat. So

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Speaker 4: the whole thing is unfair and a sham at that level,

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Speaker 4: do you know what I mean. So, so, yes, they're

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Speaker 4: criminalizing legal theory, and yes, that has enormous ramifications for

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Speaker 4: the legal system for other people in their process going forward.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, they've crossed the rubicon so many times

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Speaker 4: they're gonna have to change the name of the river.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't even you know, it's it doesn't have any

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Speaker 4: impact anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess my theory on it is I don't

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Speaker 1: see any way that this case stands. I think the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court in the same way that it was the

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Speaker 1: governor in Virginia, and I believe that was also a

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith case who got hit with Brian and convicted,

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Speaker 1: and the Supreme Court I believe it was nine to zero,

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Speaker 1: tossed the case and said, this isn't an evidence of

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Speaker 1: bribery based on the facts, this isn't a crime. Having

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Speaker 1: an aggressive legal defense is not a crime. Let me

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Speaker 1: give you another example, Buck, When I was practicing law,

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Speaker 1: krim law, I was involved in a murder case. The

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Speaker 1: defense in the murder case, I swear to you this

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Speaker 1: was the truth. They defended the client that I was

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Speaker 1: representing on appeal. His attorney did by saying he wasn't

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Speaker 1: responsible for the murder because the reason why the murder

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Speaker 1: ended up happening was because the hospital wanted to harvest

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Speaker 1: the organs of the guy who had been shot by

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Speaker 1: the murder alleged murder. The defense argument at trial was,

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Speaker 1: our client's not guilty of murder. The reason this guy

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Speaker 1: died was because they took him off of life saving

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Speaker 1: materials because they wanted to harvest his organs to use

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Speaker 1: to give to other people on an organ donor basis.

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Speaker 1: I read the entire trial transcript. I said, this is

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Speaker 1: the dumbest legal argument I've ever seen. The defense was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he shot him, but he's not responsible for the murder

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Speaker 1: because he was on life support. They turned off the

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Speaker 1: life support because they wanted his organs. Therefore it was

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Speaker 1: not a murder, all right. I was involved in the appeal.

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Speaker 1: You know what the judge on the appeal said, and

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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing here, this was a really interesting and creative

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Speaker 1: legal defense. There was no ineffectiveness of counsel at trial.

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Speaker 1: I think this is the dumbest argument I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: You're not even saying your guy didn't shoot somebody. You're

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Speaker 1: saying he's not responsible for the murder because the organs

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Speaker 1: wanted to be harvested by the hospital so they could

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Speaker 1: give him to somebody else. But argument i've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: The court analyzed it ineffectiveness of council claim. They said

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Speaker 1: that was really creative and interesting, and this was not

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Speaker 1: an effectiveness of counsel. My point is there is a

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Speaker 1: wide expanse of legal representation that is countenanced by the

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Speaker 1: court system in general, and if that wasn't an effectiveness

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Speaker 1: of counsel, what you're trying to do is figure out

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Speaker 1: how to win, and sometimes that requires you coming up

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Speaker 1: with creative legal arguments. You can't criminalize creative legal arguments.

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Speaker 1: The entire law is based on being able to allow

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Speaker 1: creative legal arguments. And I'm not hearing anybody on the

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Speaker 1: Trump team hammering this angle. I think it's the most

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Speaker 1: single compelling element of Trump's defense, and I believe the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court is going to toss all of the Jan

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Speaker 1: six charges based on this. Isn't a conspiracy, it's just

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Speaker 1: a legal argument. If Trump beats all of these cases,

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Speaker 1: either through a judge tossing it out the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: intervening a jury finding him not guilty, how and any

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Speaker 1: iteration of this, does that then make him effectively, in

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Speaker 1: your mind, unstoppable for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: Well, so here's the challenge it will take. How does

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Speaker 4: this go with independence? So they say, oh, he's an

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Speaker 4: innocent man, he's fine, it's good. Or do they say

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Speaker 4: they can't handle the circus anymore?

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Speaker 1: Well, here's what I think. I think Jack Smith knows

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Speaker 1: this deep down. I think he knows that his Jan

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Speaker 1: six charges are garbage. I wonder if they're waiting to

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Speaker 1: blame the Supreme Court and argue Trump rigged the system

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Speaker 1: in his favor because the Trump Supreme Court, which is

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Speaker 1: made up of Amy Cony, Barrett Gorsic, and Kavanaugh would

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Speaker 1: likely be in the majority tossing this case. And it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the charges are. Guess what you know

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Speaker 1: that Katanji Brown Jackson and Sonia sademay Oar and even

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Speaker 1: I would say the most rational of that group on

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Speaker 1: the liberal wing, Ye Kagan, with our Harvard background, they'll

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Speaker 1: say these charges were legit. And so I think you're

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Speaker 1: setting up for a six ' to three look at Trump.

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Speaker 1: He rigged the Supreme Court to keep himself from being

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Speaker 1: held accountable. And I wonder whether now I don't know

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Speaker 1: the timeframe of how long that could take, but I

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Speaker 1: think that's the ultimate Trump card, so to speak of

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Speaker 1: the left, is they're going to attack the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: which then what does it give you buck? We can

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Speaker 1: court pack, we can add new justice orders. There's a

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Speaker 1: rig job in effect, they can't lose based on the

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Speaker 1: way that they have laid out this case.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just wonder if any of this really

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Speaker 4: moves voters in either directors great question said and done,

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Speaker 4: or if it really will just turn into no one's

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Speaker 4: changing their mind about any of this stuff at this point,

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Speaker 4: and so it's just the voter turnout machinery that's going

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Speaker 4: to determine whether you know whether a Democrat is able

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Speaker 4: to win.

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Speaker 3: Again or win this time.

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Speaker 1: I think the best argument for Trump winning in twenty four,

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Speaker 1: if it's Trump v. Biden, is the eighty one million.

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Speaker 1: A significant portion of them don't show up because the

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Speaker 1: argument that Biden made of he'll restore normalcy in America,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't actually done it, and I think turnout could

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Speaker 1: be down. That's my theor. I could be wrong on this,

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Speaker 1: but I think a Trump vehicle, the Trump voters are

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Speaker 1: more likely to show up than the Biden voters are.

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Speaker 1: I think that's how you win. Look news of another

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Speaker 1: big data breach of a healthcare company, this time this

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Speaker 1: time companies called Maximus Federal Services. They're Medicare contractors. The

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Speaker 1: data beach. The data breach potentially exposed personal info of

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Speaker 1: nearly eleven million people. The breach took place in May,

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Speaker 1: and it compromised information that could be so security numbers,

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Speaker 1: phone numbers, email addresses. All of those details enough for

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Speaker 1: a cyber thief to set up accounts in your name

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Speaker 1: go on an online shopping spree. It's another reminder you

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Speaker 1: must set up your own online identity theft protection, and

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Speaker 2: Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. As we went to

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Speaker 1: break Buck you were playing audio of Mitch McConnell in

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Speaker 1: Kentucky and that was Democrat Activist is a public event, probably,

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Speaker 1: but also maybe.

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Speaker 4: Some people picnic. So, what was it, the fancy farm picnic?

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Speaker 4: I've been told, Okay, fancy farm picnic. We talked about this,

892
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Speaker 4: and some of our listeners called in after Mitch McConnell

893
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Speaker 4: had his moment where he appeared to freeze and then

894
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Speaker 4: come back and said he was fine.

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Speaker 1: We know that he's had several falling incidents. Again, he's

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Speaker 1: not young, he's over eighty and like many of the

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Speaker 1: people that are currently representing us in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Health has been a major concern, whether it's Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Mitch McConnell, whether it's Diane Feinstein sadly, whether

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Speaker 1: it's John Fetterman. Okay, So we talked about the fact

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Speaker 1: that the state of Kentucky passed a bill that says

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Speaker 1: the legislature, which is overwhelmingly led by Republicans, has the

903
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Speaker 1: ability because the governor is a Democrat, and this surprises

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. The election is coming on this November.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Cameron, who I believe we're going to have on

906
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Speaker 1: is the nominee. We're going to have him on this week.

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Speaker 1: He's running against Basheer, who is the sitting Democrat governor.

908
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Speaker 1: Seeking reelection. He won an upset in twenty nineteen, he's

909
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Speaker 1: now seeking to be re elected in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: So the issue here is, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: a big deal that a lot of you need to

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Speaker 1: pay attention to. Why is Mitch mcconnald's health such a focus.

913
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Speaker 1: Why have Democrats really dove into Mitch McConnell when you

914
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Speaker 1: think about Diane Feinstein's obviously far worse off. She's ninety,

915
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Speaker 1: She's still representing California. John Fetterman can barely talk, He's

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Speaker 1: still representing Pennsylvania. It's because the governor of Kentucky, Andy Basheer,

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Speaker 1: has said publicly that he does not believe that the

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Speaker 1: law that was passed by the Kentucky legislature is actually constitutional,

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Speaker 1: and that law requires that the governor appoint someone from

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Speaker 1: a list of three nominees that would be provided by

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Speaker 1: the lay legislature in the event that a Republican has

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Speaker 1: to step down and you have a Democrat in the

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Speaker 1: governor's office or vice versa. Andy Basheer has said he

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Speaker 1: doesn't believe this is constitutional because it replaces the prior

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Speaker 1: authority that the governor had to select someone of his

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Speaker 1: own choosing. Why is this significant? We are basically at

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Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty senate buck. I think if Andy

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Speaker 1: Basheer is re elected in November, that is in about

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Speaker 1: three or four months, that in the event that Mitch

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Speaker 1: McConnell for the next four years or that I think

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Speaker 1: he's serving through twenty twenty six, has any sort of

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Speaker 1: health related condition, Kentucky's governor, if he's a Democrat, is

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Speaker 1: going to appoint a Democrat and he's going to dare

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Speaker 1: the courts to say, you don't have the ability to

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Speaker 1: do this, meaning there may there may be a void

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Speaker 1: in terms of who's representing there while there's a court

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Speaker 1: or that Democrat may even be allowed to get seated.

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Speaker 1: So I would just impress upon all of our listeners

939
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Speaker 1: in Kentucky, your governor does not believe that the war

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Speaker 1: awe that was passed to allow a Republican to succeed

941
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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell is constitutional, and I think he'll challenge it

942
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Speaker 1: and he will appoint a Democrat to replace Mitch McConnell

943
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Speaker 1: if he can. That's why Democrats are paying a lot

944
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Speaker 1: of attention to Mitch McConnell right now. And so if

945
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Speaker 1: you're out there and you think I don't like Mitch McConnell.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's doing a great job. I understand

947
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Speaker 1: that argument, certainly, but understand that the governor of Kentucky,

948
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Speaker 1: who is a Democrat, believes that he has the authority

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Speaker 1: to put a Democrat in to replace Mitch McConnell, which,

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Speaker 1: in the event, we're still sitting around a fifty to

951
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Speaker 1: fifty Senate even after twenty twenty four, if this guy

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Speaker 1: is reelected, could decide control of the Senate.

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Speaker 4: I will say that there was a whole cult of RBG.

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Speaker 4: Remember this, yep, And I was this is before you

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Speaker 4: and I teamed up, Clay. I would talk of my

956
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Speaker 4: show about how this obsession with the Ruth Bader Ginsburg

957
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Speaker 4: workout routine and yep, this pretense that Ruth Ginsburg is

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Speaker 4: some cool pop culture figure and there were little dolls

959
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Speaker 4: and figurines being made about her all that this whole

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Speaker 4: thing there was a bizarre and it only happened at

961
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Speaker 4: the very end of her life cult of RBG. And

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Speaker 4: there was this whole calculation that people were trying democrats,

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Speaker 4: where Democrats were making saying, look, you got to retire,

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Speaker 4: you know, you got to retire while we have a

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Speaker 4: Democrat to replace you, and sure enough they decided to

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Speaker 4: go a different or she decided to go a different route,

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Speaker 4: and it had an impact. These things matter, you know,

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Speaker 4: these rules that we have in place about appointments and

969
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Speaker 4: succession for people who have won elected office, and what

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Speaker 4: happens there can have a pretty pretty major impact. So,

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Speaker 4: assuming that that legal, and it's even more than just

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Speaker 4: the legal interpretation, if the governor says that statute is

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Speaker 4: invalid and it's just going to do it, I assume

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Speaker 4: there'll be some pros sass but you know that it

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Speaker 4: might be, it might be interesting. You don't know how

976
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Speaker 4: that's going to turn out. That's what I'm saying. So

977
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Speaker 4: it's a risk either way.

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Speaker 1: So, and what I would say to Kentuckians is you

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Speaker 1: can eliminate that risk by putting Daniel Cameron and his governor,

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Speaker 1: because then he would appoint a Republican. There would be

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Speaker 1: no constitutional uncertainty, there'd be no legal battle over this.

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Speaker 3: So we have been Cameron on this week. I believe

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Speaker 3: we are.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, I believe look Wednesday, Wednesday, we're gonna have Daniel

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Speaker 1: Cameron on.

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Speaker 3: But if you're in Kentucky. This is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Don't think just because the law was changed that it's

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Speaker 1: going to maintain its viability. Let's take some calls. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we've taken any calls so far. Let's do

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Speaker 1: during the course of the show. Rick in Virginia Beach,

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Speaker 1: what you got for us?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I appreciate you laying down all the hard

993
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Speaker 7: work yeld are doing. This question is for Clay about

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Speaker 7: your book with all the with fifty percent of the

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Speaker 7: country lean and Live. Do you uh do you imagine

996
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Speaker 7: you're gonna be able to break through to those and

997
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Speaker 7: of that fifty percent, how many of those people do

998
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Speaker 7: you think you'll be able to switch their mind?

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Speaker 3: Well? I think on it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call and for people out there

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Speaker 1: who are just getting in. Amazon has not updated the

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Speaker 1: rankings yet. I'm asking you all to help me. I'll

1003
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Speaker 1: be out at let me make sure I get this right.

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Speaker 1: Bookends in Ridgewood, New Jersey, tonight at six o'clock Eastern

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Speaker 1: doing the first book signing. The book is American Playbook.

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Speaker 1: Go buy it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. Drive this

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Speaker 1: up right now. We're still sitting at fifteen four hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty two. I want to be in the top

1009
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Speaker 1: one thousand when the book launches tomorrow, and I want

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Speaker 1: you guys to help make it happen.

1011
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Speaker 3: Drive it up. I'll give you an update tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I think, Buck, if a lot of people who are persuadable,

1013
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Speaker 1: middle of the road read this book, I think they

1014
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Speaker 1: would agree with almost everything in it. And it doesn't

1015
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Speaker 1: take that many people, given how close elections are, to

1016
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Speaker 1: be able to swing the outcome. I like to think

1017
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Speaker 1: my book could help.

1018
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Speaker 3: When was the.

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Speaker 4: Last time somebody came to you and said I was

1020
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Speaker 4: a full on lib and you helped in my conversion

1021
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Speaker 4: to sanity. I will say because I had this, yeah,

1022
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Speaker 4: more concentrated during COVID than any period of my life.

1023
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Speaker 4: I had people that had known me in childhood who

1024
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Speaker 4: are like, I didn't agree with you, and I thought

1025
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Speaker 4: you're some right wing lunatic. And I always say to that,

1026
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Speaker 4: thank you, and and I thought that, and then I

1027
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Speaker 4: listened to you during COVID, and you were the only

1028
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Speaker 4: one who was, you know, the only one that they

1029
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Speaker 4: were listening to that was telling them the truth.

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 1: It happens fairly regularly, which is Buck. I guarantee there'll

1032
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Speaker 1: be some people at this New Jersey book signing tonight

1033
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Speaker 1: who said, I used to think you were crazy. I

1034
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Speaker 1: started listening to you and Buck, I started reading out Kick,

1035
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Speaker 1: and now I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: It happens all the time. I do believe.

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Speaker 1: If you don't believe that, then I don't know how

1038
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Speaker 1: you make the arguments every day that we do. My

1039
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Speaker 1: goal is to win, and I would persuade a couple

1040
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Speaker 1: every day. I'm sure we have independence who listened, we

1041
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Speaker 1: hear from them, all the Democrats.

1042
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Speaker 3: I'm but I mean.

1043
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Speaker 4: Like, like, have you do you think you've ever been

1044
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 4: able to convert somebody in recent memory who was who

1045
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Speaker 4: was a full on the lib like an actual person

1046
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Speaker 4: who believes Joe Biden is doing a great job. Nancy

1047
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Speaker 4: Pelosi is a wonderful elder stateswoman, and you know men

1048
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Speaker 4: can get pregnant, you know what I mean, Like.

1049
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Speaker 3: If you had one of those. I just wonder do

1050
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Speaker 3: we ever break through to.

1051
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Speaker 4: The true Madiacs on the other side, because I know

1052
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Speaker 4: Independence love us.

1053
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Remember one last summer talking to a guy at the

1055
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Speaker 1: beach from North Carolina came up to me and said,

1056
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Speaker 1: I bought into the Joe Biden. Lie I voted for

1057
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Speaker 1: him in North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. I listened to you, and I

1059
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Speaker 3: will not make that mistake again. Yeah, No, there we go.

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Speaker 4: I also will say it has been my experience and

1061
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Speaker 4: this is really true. I mean I can think about

1062
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Speaker 4: this almost without exception that the people you think of

1063
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Speaker 4: as right wing, I mean, quite honestly, if you miked

1064
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Speaker 4: up Clay and me and some of your other folks

1065
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Speaker 4: out there and just heard how we are in our

1066
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Speaker 4: everyday lives, we believe this stuff and talk about this

1067
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Speaker 4: and think this all the way. I know all a

1068
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Speaker 4: lot of people that are in that, particularly that CNN world,

1069
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Speaker 4: but also who they're like, well, I mean I.

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Speaker 3: Don't really think men can get pregnant.

1071
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Speaker 4: Like they'll say that to you privately, yes, but they

1072
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Speaker 4: will not say anything like that publicly ever. And I

1073
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Speaker 4: mean that's a reality that the left, I think deals with,

1074
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Speaker 4: particularly left wing media, deals with all the time, because

1075
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Speaker 4: I mean they say stuff. No one really believes the

1076
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Speaker 4: stuff that they're supposed to say.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no normal person think about this.

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Speaker 1: Not one House or Senate member voted that you should

1079
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Speaker 1: play sports against your gender. You can't tell me that

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Speaker 1: all those Democrats with daughters actually believe that a dude

1081
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Speaker 1: should be able to win a women's sports and be

1082
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Speaker 1: a women's Athlete of the Year. They don't believe it.

1083
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Speaker 1: They lie, David and Wisconsin.

1084
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Speaker 3: What you got for us?

1085
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Speaker 5: Given the demographic of DC. We've talked a lot about

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Speaker 5: how the probability of Trump getting a fair trial is

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Speaker 5: next to nothing. But oh, I wanted to advocate for

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Speaker 5: a minute, Clay. Last year you talked about a story

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Speaker 5: where there was a reporter and someone else I can't

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Speaker 5: remember who it was, doing door to door and DC

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Speaker 5: asking people about what they thought about Covid Bauci. And

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Speaker 5: one of the guys was an African American gentleman and

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Speaker 5: they asked him and he basically laughed in their face

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Speaker 5: and read them the Riot Act, and you know they

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Speaker 5: didn't expect that. Yeah, all we need is one guy

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Speaker 5: on that jury to say, you know what I see

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Speaker 5: right through this BS. In the African American community, they're

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Speaker 5: especially cautious of law enforcement and overhanded, heavy handed law enforcement.

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Speaker 5: So all we need is one guy. I wouldn't give

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Speaker 5: up hope that he you know that there might be

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Speaker 5: that one.

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Speaker 4: Can I jump in we're definitely not giving up hope

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Speaker 4: on any of this. And you're totally correct in that

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Speaker 4: all it takes is one person on that jury. But

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Speaker 4: I think we can all see they're taking as they're

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Speaker 4: taking as many shots here as they can, from as

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Speaker 4: many places as they can at Trump, just to make

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Speaker 4: it a numbers game, to make it a probability situation

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Speaker 4: as much as anything else. Remember, we have a criminal

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Speaker 4: case in New York City, soon to have a criminal

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Speaker 4: case in Atlanta, Georgia. Two federal indictments. That's you just

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Speaker 4: start to add it up and say, well, what happens.

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Speaker 4: You've got a jury that just kind of hates Trump.

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Speaker 4: You only need one.

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Speaker 1: To that guy's credit, the video he's referencing Buck was

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Speaker 1: in the Fauci documentary The.

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Speaker 3: PBS front Line. I remember this. It was a recorded It.

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Speaker 1: Was Fauci with the cameras, and Fauci thought it made

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Speaker 1: him look good. But a you know, probably thirty five

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Speaker 1: to forty year old black guy on a porch just

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Speaker 1: peppered him with questions about the COVID shot and why

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to get it. And the guy, who's

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Speaker 1: just a smart, normal common sense guy, looked like the

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Speaker 1: hero for many people out there. And there are and

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Speaker 1: I've said this for a while, buck many people listening

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Speaker 1: right now who will have the opportunity to sit on

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Speaker 1: one of these juries right you'll get called. I really

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Speaker 1: believe that. I think you look at all the evidence

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Speaker 1: you have to, in my opinion, say not guilty, stick

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Speaker 1: to it, and refer fuse to allow this jury to convict.

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Speaker 1: Based on the precedent that it's setting in either South

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Speaker 1: Florida or in DC. I really believe some of our

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Speaker 1: listeners will have that opportunity, and i'd encourage you to

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Speaker 1: make sure that you show up. This is one jury

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Speaker 1: trial you don't want to try to get out of.

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Speaker 1: You want to try to get on because what you

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Speaker 1: could do could defend liberty for generations to come. I

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Speaker 1: really do believe that. Look, I want to tell you,

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Speaker 1: students begin heading back to college the next thirty days.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they'll be learning about our nation's founding principles,

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Speaker 1: the ones that made America the freest, most prosperous nation

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Speaker 1: in history. Will they be given a full and honest

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Speaker 1: account of our nation's history. If the students you're thinking

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Speaker 1: about are Hillsdale College undergrads the answers.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: I can't say the same for college students going everywhere,

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Speaker 1: but the chances are frankly not good. Hillsdale College educates

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Speaker 1: their students on our nation's full history, the good, the bad,

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Speaker 1: how we've improved from our mistakes along the way, and

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Speaker 1: beyond the campus, Hillsdale's extended its teaching to k through

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Speaker 1: twelve students and lifelong learners like you and me. If

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Speaker 1: you're not doing so already, one of the best ways

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Speaker 1: to start learning from our friends at Hillsdale is through

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Speaker 1: for this audience, in particular, Clayandbuck for Hillsdale dot com.

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Speaker 1: You'll look forward to receiving your copy of Imprimis each month.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, useful, and free the best smartest conservative constitutionalist

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Speaker 1: thought out there. Find out more about Hillsdale and Imprimus

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Speaker 1: at clayanbuckfour Hillsdale dot com. That's Clayanbuck for Hillsdale dot com.

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Speaker 2: Learn laugh, and join us on the weekend on our

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Speaker 2: Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast. Find it on

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